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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: duplicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else.

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Speaker 2: News talks heavy.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Coming up today the Minister on the government loosening the

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Speaker 4: liquor licensing laws, the former boss of Costco on whether

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Speaker 4: we're going to get more cost goes and whether that'll

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Speaker 4: actually bring down our grocery prices. And NIEWA on whether

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Speaker 4: their new thirty five million dollars super computa will make

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Speaker 4: us better at predicting the weather.

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Speaker 2: Heather duples Cyllen, It's.

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Speaker 4: Fair to say World rugby's copping it today a even

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Speaker 4: more so than yesterday. This is following the death of

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Speaker 4: Shane Christy, the former Highlander who had the headaches and

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Speaker 4: the memory loss and all those other symptoms that were

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Speaker 4: consistent with CTE from too many head knocks. A former

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Speaker 4: Whales number eight with early on set dementia, Alex Popham

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Speaker 4: has gone straight to World Rugby and the All Blacks

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Speaker 4: as Twitter accounts and told them they've got blood on

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Speaker 4: their hands and our very own Scotty Stephenson has written

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Speaker 4: a piece saying it's time to stop spending money on PR.

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Speaker 4: This is obviously for rugby time to stop spending money

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Speaker 4: on PR and start spending money on helping the former

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Speaker 4: players with these symptoms. Absolutely, I mean, there is no

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Speaker 4: doubt that World Rugby could be doing more right. The

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Speaker 4: standown period for a professional rugby player for a suspected

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Speaker 4: concussion is, what do you think, twelve days It's that's ridiculous,

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Speaker 4: twelve days, twelve days. In boxing, it's thirty days. And

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Speaker 4: if they actually lose consciousness and they know they've lost consciousness,

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Speaker 4: it could be anywhere from six months up that they're

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Speaker 4: forced to stand down. I think we've all seen pretty

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Speaker 4: gnarly cases of head knocks recently, or players talking about

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Speaker 4: migraines over the summer period, only for them to be

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Speaker 4: back on the field when they, if you were being careful,

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Speaker 4: should not be back on the field. And who knows

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Speaker 4: what World Rugby will be forced to do once these

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Speaker 4: lawsuits are successful. But here's the thing. Our ability to

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Speaker 4: keep blaming the rugby bosses is going to run out,

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Speaker 4: if it hasn't already, No player in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 4: can blame World Rugby if they end up with these

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Speaker 4: symptoms in years to come. No one playing rugby in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five doesn't know that if you take repeated

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Speaker 4: knocks to the head, you are opening yourself up to

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Speaker 4: future problems. We know that, in fact, we already knew

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Speaker 4: it when Shane Christie was playing professionally, even if we

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Speaker 4: didn't know it as widely as we do today. It

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Speaker 4: is terrible that this may be the thing that has

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Speaker 4: happened to him. It is terrible that it is undoubtedly

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Speaker 4: happening to rugby players playing today. But personal responsibility is

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Speaker 4: now very much in play here.

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Speaker 2: Heather duplusy Ellen.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen nine ten is the text number standard text fees applied.

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Speaker 4: Greek Foreren has delivered his final profit as the boss

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Speaker 4: of Air New Zealand before he leaves in a couple

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Speaker 4: of months time. The airline offered him an extra nine

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Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars to stay on, but he decided to

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Speaker 4: leave anyway. Air New Zealand made an annual net profit

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Speaker 4: after tax of one hundred and twenty six million dollars.

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Speaker 4: That is down fourteen percent on the year before. And

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Speaker 4: Gregor is with us. Hello greg hi there, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm well? Thank you your final result, but as sweet.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it is you know, I've been almost six years

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Speaker 5: at the airline and been incredibly enjoyable. So bit sad

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Speaker 5: leaving a number of people in a few weeks time,

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Speaker 5: but also excited for Nickel and his opportunit unity and

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Speaker 5: also for the rest of the team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, do you. I mean, it's been a tough industry

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Speaker 4: been worse. Are you happy to put it behind you?

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Speaker 6: Do?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 5: As you reflect on these things, you always learn more

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Speaker 5: when it's hard than when things are easy. So I

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Speaker 5: do actually appreciate the fact that it has been difficult,

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Speaker 5: and you know, whether it was starting when COVID began

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Speaker 5: the business and sort of a parade of engine challenges,

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Speaker 5: and I would say to you that I'm proud of

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Speaker 4: So why are you leaving?

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Speaker 5: Well, I've got another you know, itch that I need

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Speaker 5: to scratch in terms of what I want to do,

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Speaker 5: and I can't share anything about that at this stage.

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Speaker 4: So there is something here. It's not just lying in

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Speaker 5: Secondly, if you've got succession in place at a point

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Speaker 5: in time, you need to let people get on and

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Speaker 5: do that because otherwise you stand the risk of losing them.

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Speaker 4: Can you at least tell us if you're etches locally

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Speaker 5: I can't at the stage on So have you heard

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Speaker 5: the rumors? I've not heard any room rumors are.

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Speaker 2: You're too busy?

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Speaker 4: The rumors are either that you're the new rugby boss.

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Speaker 5: I've not heard that rumor.

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Speaker 4: And as I said, so we can scratch that one off,

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Speaker 5: I have no knowledge of anything.

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Speaker 4: Now listen, profit down this year, profit down last year.

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Speaker 4: When does it turn around? Do you think?

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Speaker 5: I think we're in for another challenging year this year,

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Speaker 5: to be honest, so perhaps the year after. But it's

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Speaker 4: Is it the difference?

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Speaker 5: Different set of circumstances. We're still dealing with engines. We

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Speaker 5: don't expect any significant improvement there and we've said, you know, look,

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Speaker 5: we came in at one hundred and eighty nine pre tax.

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Speaker 5: We would have done another one hundred and sixty five

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Speaker 5: what we did the previous year, which is never what

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Speaker 5: you want to do, but that's what happens. The economy

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Speaker 5: is still pretty tough out there domestically, and you know that,

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Speaker 5: we're dealing with that, and we're seeing that with sort

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Speaker 5: travel domestically is still pretty tough. But the other thing

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Speaker 5: it's been forty percent over the last five years, but

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Speaker 5: it's ten percent again on top of that this year.

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Speaker 5: But then we're seeing other services that we get and

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Speaker 5: that could be CIA airways, airports. If I just took

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Speaker 5: that's laid in eighty four million dollars worth of cost

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so do you have I mean, as a guy

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Speaker 4: to the point that we have regional airlines asking for help,

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Speaker 4: what would be your advice to the government to help them?

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Speaker 5: Well, I would look a field and say, what do

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Speaker 5: So I think Rex recently got about a fifty million

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Speaker 2: Need a hand.

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Speaker 5: And that hand could come by having a look at

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Speaker 5: it could be some type of financial assistance. It's tough

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Speaker 5: running an airline. You know, they are really capital intensive.

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Speaker 5: We've made this year two cents in a dollar, and

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Speaker 5: I'm actually proud of the result. We had to work

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Speaker 5: two hundred million dollars for each plane.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what if I was you, I'd

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Speaker 5: Look, that will depend on what I end up doing.

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Speaker 5: And I haven't decided yet. So maybe my wife loves me,

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Speaker 5: but she also loves me outworking.

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Speaker 4: Says every wife. Greg. Thank you very much, Greg for

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Speaker 4: in New Zealand's chief executive Hei. There is CTE only

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Speaker 4: a rugby problem. Look at Wally Lewis in League AFL

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Speaker 4: only has a twelve day stand. Doown stop blaming this

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Speaker 4: on just rugby, Paul, I think you misunderstand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm not just blaming this on rugby. I'm blaming this

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Speaker 4: reading an article about him a few years ago a

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Speaker 4: couple of seasons ago, complained about like extensive migraines basically

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Speaker 4: We started early or something like that. Back on the

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Speaker 4: You've clearly had too many head knocks. So I'm blaming

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Speaker 4: rugby play player, no, all of the stuff that we

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Speaker 4: do that when you clearly have got something going on

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Speaker 4: in your head, It's on you. Full sixteen It's the.

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Speaker 4: The Greg is presenting the facts. People will complain, but

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Speaker 4: he is actually a big loss to US nineteen past four.

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Speaker 1: Sport with tab in play with real time odds and

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Speaker 4: I see water Grave sports store coasters with USLO.

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Speaker 10: Does hey, Heather, let's climb straight on unto this the

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Speaker 10: bets of the week. If you will remember R eighteen

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Speaker 10: do bet responsibly. We've got this thing about multis going

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Speaker 10: on at the moment, right. I think they're quite funny,

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Speaker 10: but with a twist. So I've taken the under one

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Speaker 10: dollar twenty odds in the NPC. Okay, so there are

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Speaker 10: five of those games. They have plenty of dollar four

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Speaker 10: Waikato a dollar six to win. Now it's not a

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Speaker 10: sure run thing, but you don't actually win that much

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Speaker 13: So you've got this whole problem in the whole of

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Speaker 13: Tama Portucker is a disgrace to our Marty Race. Okay,

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Speaker 15: Driving in your car speeds the faster Feller dram right.

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Speaker 4: De Vart Murrayol's of this Shortly and finally, our postcard

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Speaker 4: Murrayol's Ossie corresponds with us, Hey.

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Speaker 3: Mas, very good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Happens still not track this guy down?

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Speaker 3: She has you know, this is just this slow motion

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Speaker 3: drama that's played out of men. She was attacked six

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Speaker 3: years ago in the office of Linda Rendols, who was

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Speaker 3: a minister in the Morrison government. She was attacked by

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Speaker 3: Bruce Lherman, her colleague. They were both staffer for Miss Reynolds,

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Speaker 3: and that was definitely proven. It was found to the

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Speaker 3: satisfaction of the Federal Court last year that yes, she

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Speaker 3: was raped by Lherman. But the thing here is that

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Speaker 3: Britney Higgins and Brittney Higgins then alleged in a series

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Speaker 3: of social media posts that basically her boss and the

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Speaker 3: boss's chief of staff, both women, basically tried to persuade

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Speaker 3: her to play it down. The suggestion was that you know, look,

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Speaker 3: let's not take this too far. Okay, we've got the

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Speaker 3: federal election coming up and so on. Well, for Linda Renolds,

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Speaker 3: who was the minister in the Morrison, that was absolutely intolerable.

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Speaker 3: She said, under no circumstances would I walk away from

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Speaker 3: what happened to that young woman. Never and the same

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Speaker 3: for a female chief of staff. You're kidding. Neither of

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Speaker 3: us did anything of the sword, and that's now been proven.

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Speaker 3: She sued Higgins for defamation and has been and has

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Speaker 3: been vindicated in the Supreme Court in Western Australia. Basically,

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Speaker 3: what happened, I mean Higgins was raped, yes, and the

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Speaker 3: Federal government in a one day hearing paid her two

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Speaker 3: point four million dollars without getting any evidence whatsoever from

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Speaker 3: Senator Reynolds. And so she's now going after the Commonwealth saying, well,

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Speaker 3: hang on a second. All that did, all that did

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Speaker 3: was reinforcing the public eye, Heather, that I'd done wrong.

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Speaker 3: And what now is going to happen. It's a minimum

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Speaker 3: three hundred and thirty five thousand Australian dollars and damages

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Speaker 3: that they have to be paid by Higgins toward two rendoalds.

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Speaker 3: But her legal bill, Heather, could be in the order

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Speaker 3: of one and a half to two million dollars. Have

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Speaker 3: to have sold their house in France that they bought

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Speaker 3: with that payout. And you know, this saga just drags

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Speaker 3: on and on and on. But a comprehensive victory for

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Speaker 3: Linda Reynolds and her chief of staff is going through

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Speaker 3: a separate avenue. But she also is going to be

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Speaker 3: claiming some sort of compensation. That's the apparently what's going

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Speaker 3: to happen.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for talking us through that. It's Murray Old's Australia correspondent.

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Speaker 2: Heather Do for ce Ellen.

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Speaker 4: So I'm happy to tell you that the government is

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Speaker 4: loosening up the rules around liquor licensing, because I don't

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Speaker 4: know if you've been following lick a licensing, but this

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Speaker 4: has this has become ridiculous, especially in a place like

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Speaker 4: Wellington where where basically you've got I'm sorry to say

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Speaker 4: it's largely the coppers who are making it really hard

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Speaker 4: for Wellington hospow joints to actually sell booze. But anyway,

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Speaker 4: what the government's done has made it harder to object.

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Speaker 4: You can only object a few people from the local community.

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Speaker 4: It would also give the applicant the right to respond

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Speaker 4: to objections that they hear at the district licensing committees

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Speaker 4: and blah blah blah. Also going to loosen restrictions for

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Speaker 4: breweries and cellar doors and look into digital ideas. This

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Speaker 4: is what I love. This is Nicole Mackey. Most New

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Speaker 4: Zealanders who choose to drink alcohol do so responsibly. Our

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Speaker 4: reforms recognize that responsible drinkers should not be penalized because

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Speaker 4: of the behavior of a few who do not drink safely.

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Speaker 4: Here here she's with us after five o'clock. Here's John

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Speaker 4: tarmaheera getting personal against Judith Collins.

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Speaker 13: Than God, that woman Colins what a real ugly, little

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Speaker 13: evil person. And always even the way you're starting to look.

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Speaker 4: That's not fair objectively. Objectively, Judith's hair and brows are

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Speaker 4: on point at the moment. Sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with Centrics Credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 1: payments thirtaty.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen away from five. Barry Soper, senior political correspondent, is

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Speaker 4: with us in studio.

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Speaker 12: Hey Barry, Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 4: What do you make of the liquor licensing rule changes?

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Speaker 12: Well, I think they're long overdue. Actually, that's been very

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Speaker 12: restrictive in communities. Under the reforms, only people from the

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Speaker 12: local community would be able to object to new license applications,

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Speaker 12: while applicants would gain a formal right of reply. So

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Speaker 12: that's a good change. The other changes will allow and

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Speaker 12: you'll you'll be happy with this one.

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Speaker 8: Here.

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Speaker 12: When you go to the hair dresses, you'll be able

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Speaker 12: to have a drink legally. So wineries, breweries and distilleries

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Speaker 12: in fact off licenses.

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Speaker 10: They'll let hair dresses and.

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Speaker 12: Barbers serve small amounts of alcohol without a license. But

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Speaker 12: then I guess the question is asked, isn't it what's

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Speaker 12: a small amount of alcohol? So I don't know how

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Speaker 12: they're gonna get around that.

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Speaker 4: One small to you might be someone else's gigantic quantity.

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Speaker 12: Precisely you come out come out of the hairdresser looking

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Speaker 12: rather wonky. But then to tide the point, it's interesting.

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Speaker 12: Nicole McKee, who's the Associate Justice Minister. She said the

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Speaker 12: changes also included harm reduction measures, she tells us including

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Speaker 12: barring delivery services from serving highly intoxicated buyers issues.

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Speaker 18: Hooper Eats as one excemp or where they already have

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Speaker 18: measures in place to make sure that they are delivering.

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Speaker 19: To the correct people.

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Speaker 18: We want to ensure that that's across all delivery services,

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Speaker 18: and it will be incumbent upon them to ensure that

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Speaker 18: they do not serve or deliver to those that are

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Speaker 18: already well intoxicated and those that are underage. There is

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Speaker 18: a bit of a loophole there in the deliveries, and

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Speaker 18: so I'm making sure that we are managing that and

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Speaker 18: closing it.

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Speaker 12: How on earth they're going to do that, I don't know.

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Speaker 12: You imagine, if you're an uber driver, you turn up

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Speaker 12: to an address, somebody's pissed at the door and wants

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Speaker 12: to take delivery of more alcohol that you're going to

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Speaker 12: tell them no, you're not allowed to have it because

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Speaker 12: you're drunk. I mean that's really putting.

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Speaker 4: A lot look away.

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Speaker 12: Well no, I just I think it could create for

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Speaker 12: Uber drivers and the like. Other delivery people are real problem. Well,

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Speaker 12: if somebody's boozed and you're, you know, you keeping the

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Speaker 12: liquor from them, I wouldn't like to be in that position.

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Speaker 4: No, fair enough, okay, So explain to me how this

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Speaker 4: electric office rent is working.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think it's a bit of a storm to

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Speaker 12: keep teacup actually, because they're saying Chris Luxon he has

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Speaker 12: a rental property that he's letting out to Parliamentary Services

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Speaker 12: for his electorate office. And look, if you've got a

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Speaker 12: property you might be your elector office. There could be

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Speaker 12: I guess some would see a conflict of interest there.

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Speaker 12: But he's made it quite public that he earns about

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Speaker 12: forty five thousand dollars a year for his office. But

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Speaker 12: it's not only that Labor's doing the same thing. They're

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Speaker 12: letting out offices as well. And these are officers that

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Speaker 12: Labor Properties Limited own, so they're all doing it. I

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Speaker 12: can't see there's anything wrong in it. I mean, if

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Speaker 12: you've got to have an electorate office, you've got the

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Speaker 12: landlord's got to be somebody.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that, Barry. The problem is the perception

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Speaker 4: that these guys are making bank of us because they

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Speaker 4: are all right, they're getting into it. They should be

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Speaker 4: getting into it and serving the people of New Zealand,

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Speaker 4: not making bank. And every single one of them based well,

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Speaker 4: that's not fair. Many of them are making bank.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, you own a building, you own an office,

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Speaker 12: you're on an electorate office, So would you sooner pay?

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Speaker 4: Another Lane says sorry, gee, sorry, I answer. I answered

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Speaker 4: your question, answered your question. Hey, can I have you

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Speaker 4: seen have you heard what John?

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Speaker 12: I was going to talk about it, but look, tell

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Speaker 12: me what you I think the comments are disgraceful, to

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Speaker 12: be perfectly honest, and this is typical of John Tammaherdy.

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Speaker 12: And I've got to say the Moldi Party, there are

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Speaker 12: a bunch of protesters. They have seats in parliament unfortunately,

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Speaker 12: so I guess you've got to talk about what they

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Speaker 12: say and what Tamma Harry has said, not just that,

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Speaker 12: he said much worse than that about Nazi Germany.

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Speaker 4: It's just not all Hey, Barry, thank you very much

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Speaker 4: appreciate it. Barry Sober, senior political correspondent nine away from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting a tough question to the newspeakers the Mic Hosking Breakfast, the.

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Speaker 2: Willis as the Minister for Economic Growth.

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Speaker 20: We all agree red tape, Yes, clean it up, but

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Speaker 20: elder don't want to bar of it.

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Speaker 2: Little don't want to bar of it.

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Speaker 11: Ask yourself why, First of all, we don't agree.

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Speaker 21: We've got an opposition opposed.

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Speaker 2: You forget it there, idiots.

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Speaker 3: You're in charge.

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Speaker 22: Get on with the red tape.

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Speaker 2: I owe it to.

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Speaker 3: Everyone to make sure we've taken all those steps before

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Speaker 3: I take any more dramatic modes.

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Speaker 2: We're on the side of a shopper.

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Speaker 20: We're all on the side of the shopper. But I

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Speaker 20: just want more actions. This is where your messages are

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Speaker 20: getting mixed wrong.

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Speaker 2: Glash and burn the paper.

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Speaker 20: You've got to admit Costco and not rolling out a

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Speaker 20: series of nationwide supermarkets. Back tomorrow at six am The

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Speaker 20: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Avida News talk z B.

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Speaker 4: Here the John Tommy Heat is letting himself down with

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Speaker 4: his recent comments. He's better than that, HM. That would

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Speaker 4: be a minority view. I would imagine to be fair, listen,

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Speaker 4: the Prime Minister's cringey proposal for Taylor Swift and Travis

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Speaker 4: has actually paid off just a little bit. He hasn't

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Speaker 4: made it onto any of the big shows, but this

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Speaker 4: is the one where he said yesterday that he has

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Speaker 4: invited them, on the day of their proposal being made public,

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Speaker 4: to come and get married here. He has made it

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Speaker 4: into the Mirror, the online version of the Mirror, and

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Speaker 4: he's made it onto CNN's TikTok. They've done a little

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Speaker 4: real on the TikTok, had got twenty four thousand likes,

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Speaker 4: a thousand comments, eight hundred shares. It's better than nothing,

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Speaker 4: you'd have to say. And then in the Mirror article,

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Speaker 4: it's hard to kind of see the readership of the

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Speaker 4: Mirror article. What the Mirror is widely read over in

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Speaker 4: the UK. This is what they've written honeymoon. In a

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Speaker 4: strange turn of events, even world leaders have got caught

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Speaker 4: up in the Swift Kelsey wedding mania. Prime Minister Christopher

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Speaker 4: Luxon has extended an open invitation to Taylor Swift and

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Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey to host their wedding or honeymoon. In a

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Speaker 4: video posted on social media, he told them, blah blah blah, whatever,

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Speaker 4: all the stuff. If Taylor and Travis do fancy spending

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Speaker 4: their first holiday as a married couple in New Zealand,

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Speaker 4: they could treat themselves to a luxury New Zealand's self

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Speaker 4: Drive tour, because that's what you want to do when

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Speaker 4: you come here. You want to self drive yourself with

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Speaker 4: prices starting at sixty two thousand dollars for two weeks.

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Speaker 4: I think we're trying to make bank off them. What

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Speaker 4: do you think I think we've looked at them, We've

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Speaker 4: gone that's a million dollar ring on your finger. Oh no, No,

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Speaker 4: when we said the car is two thousand, what we

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Speaker 4: meant is sixty two thousand. They can then leave the

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Speaker 4: getaway car keys at the hotel and explore Australia and

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Speaker 4: New Zealand on a luxury silver Sea cruise with ordly

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Speaker 4: traveling with the Seaventure setting them back thirty seven thousand

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Speaker 4: dollars for twenty five days, really selling ourselves there, which

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Speaker 4: totally the mirror has undone all of the good work

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Speaker 4: that Chris Luxon had done. But anyway, there you go.

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Speaker 4: At least he's done it. So if you were cynical

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Speaker 4: about what he did yesterday and you were thinking it

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Speaker 4: was cringey and not worth it. At least he got

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Speaker 4: some pick up from it, so it made it slightly

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Speaker 4: worth it, isn't it. Now we're going to talk to

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Speaker 4: Nicole McKee shortly about the liquor licensing. Also going to

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Speaker 4: talk to Patrick Noon, who is the former Costco managing director,

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Speaker 4: about where the Costco will actually set up and if

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Speaker 4: so were and will it bring down our gross through prices.

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Speaker 4: But also the thing I'm most looking forward to finding

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Speaker 4: out in the next half hour of the program is

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Speaker 4: whether the thirty five million dollars supercomputer that we've brought

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Speaker 4: from Niewer is actually going to help us better predict

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Speaker 4: the weather, because you, like me, have realized that we're

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Speaker 4: quite shit at it right, We are really crap at

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Speaker 4: predicting the weather. Like remember that time in Auckland when

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Speaker 4: we were like it was a bit of rain and

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Speaker 4: Elton John's on tonight, Elton John, all the rain's going

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Speaker 4: to ruin the concert and then next minute houses are

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Speaker 4: flooded to their roofs and the ceilings are underwater. And

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Speaker 4: so remember that. I'm just hoping that maybe this computer

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Speaker 4: is going to kind of get around that and make

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Speaker 4: it a little bit better. Also, No, that's far too selfish,

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Speaker 4: shall I Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, I might.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to decide whether I'm trying to decide whether

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Speaker 4: we stay in Auckland for the start of the school holidays,

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Speaker 4: taking the week with the kids. Do we stay in

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Speaker 4: Auckland hope like hell for good weather and like heat

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Speaker 4: the pool up to try to swim? Do we do that?

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Speaker 4: Or do we just cut our losses and go to

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Speaker 4: Wellington and freeze. I'll ask them if their super computer

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Speaker 4: can answer that question for me.

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Speaker 19: US Talks at B.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try the truck to

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Speaker 1: ask the questions. I get the answers, find the fag sack.

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Speaker 2: And give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Here the duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and

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Speaker 1: the power of satellite mobile news dogs B Afternoon.

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Speaker 4: The government is loosening liquor licensing rules. Only locals will

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Speaker 4: now be able to object and ministers will be able

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Speaker 4: to invene with intervene without legislation for major televised events.

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Speaker 4: Nicole McKee is the Associate Justice ministan with US. Now Hey, Nicole,

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Speaker 4: good afternoon, Heather. Where you getting objections from outside the

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Speaker 4: local area. Yes, we were.

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Speaker 18: In fact, I had one bar owner that told me

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Speaker 18: he received an objection that came from the United Kingdom,

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Speaker 18: so it was more than just being outside of their

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Speaker 18: local territorial authority areas.

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Speaker 4: Why is anyone in the UK interested?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, that's a really good question, and I think that's

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Speaker 18: why we need to look to limit who can object.

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Speaker 18: We want to make sure that the serious concerns are

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Speaker 18: able to be voiced by those within the community, but

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Speaker 18: it should be those within the territorial authorities which make

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Speaker 18: the decisions that should be able to make those objections.

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Speaker 4: Is it someone who is anti liquor? Is that kind

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Speaker 4: of thing?

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Speaker 18: Well, I never got down to who it was. I

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Speaker 18: was more gobsmacked that it came from overseas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. What about the police approach to it, because a

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Speaker 4: lot of the problems have been caused by the fact

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Speaker 4: that the police are really keen to shut the stuff down.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, and I can understand why they're really keen to

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Speaker 18: shut some stuff down, But I've had to find a

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Speaker 18: balance here and I thought it was really important to

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Speaker 18: do so. The majority of New Zealanders that drink drink responsibly,

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Speaker 18: and I want to make sure that they have the

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Speaker 18: opportunity to do that. We want to regrow our sector,

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Speaker 18: So it means also having tourism, having people been able

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Speaker 18: to go out there and enjoy a night out. And

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Speaker 18: while we have some harm stop people from getting out

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Speaker 18: there and socializing, we need some good stories on the news.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. Well why the ministerial intervention for major televised events.

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Speaker 18: Well, this really is so that we can go out

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Speaker 18: there and celebrate good things like Rugby World Cup without

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Speaker 18: having to do a legislative change or ordering council every

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Speaker 18: single time. So we're basically saying, if there's a big

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Speaker 18: event like the Rugby World Karpa, something that's happening that's

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Speaker 18: outside of our time zones, the pubs can open. Have

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Speaker 18: seen success with that in the past, and we're basically

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Speaker 18: saying ministers can do that again in the future without

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Speaker 18: having to go through the Ordering Council and cabinet process

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Speaker 18: to make it happen.

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Speaker 4: And one of the other things that you're doing is

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Speaker 4: the online verification of age. What are you changing here.

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Speaker 18: Yes, we're making sure that the digital identity credentials can

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Speaker 18: be used as evidence of age documents. Once we get

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Speaker 18: that framework up and running. So we're future proofing the

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Speaker 18: way that we can check ID into the future. And

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Speaker 18: this means that deliveries of alcohol at home, those rapid deliveries,

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Speaker 18: for example, can be easily verified and checked upon when

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Speaker 18: somebody places in order.

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Speaker 4: Is this the same kind of verification that you'd be

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Speaker 4: able to use for social media?

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Speaker 18: It may be, But in saying that, Heather, I we

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Speaker 18: know that a party are not in agreement with the

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Speaker 18: restrictions on social media, and I know you are. Our

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Speaker 18: concern is how do you enforce it? But let's not

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Speaker 18: say no to everything. Let's see what this framework can

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Speaker 18: develop and whether or not it can be utilized internationally

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Speaker 18: as well.

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Speaker 4: Good stuff, Hey, Nicole, thanks so much, Nicole McKey, Associate

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Speaker 4: Justice Minister.

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Speaker 2: Ever do for see Ellen thankfually.

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Speaker 4: When Nichola will is a supermarket shakeup will make a

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Speaker 4: difference in your weekly shop. Yesterday, of course, she announced

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Speaker 4: a raft of reforms to make it easy for new

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Speaker 4: supermarket players to open and expand across the country, and

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Speaker 4: it was clearly aimed at Costco. Patrick Noon is the

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Speaker 4: former managing director of Costco and New Zealand.

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Speaker 6: Hi Patrick, Hi, how are you very well?

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Speaker 4: Thank you now Costco was already planning expansion outside of Auckland.

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Speaker 4: So has this actually changed anything, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, I'm not aware of the costco current plans. I've

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Speaker 6: been retired for two years now, but I can comment on.

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Speaker 6: Before I did retire, Costco was really interested in New

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Speaker 6: Zealand market. It's a great market. There is a lack

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Speaker 6: of competition there and Costco can bring goods and services

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Speaker 6: to the market, add some really really good savings to

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Speaker 6: our members there and a case in point, you know,

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Speaker 6: the West Auckland store. In that same precint we had

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Speaker 6: pack and save, we had war wors across the street,

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Speaker 6: and we are able to operate and be extremely competitive

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Speaker 6: to the local market. So yes, New Zealand market is

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Speaker 6: a very attractive proposition for any food retailer. I would

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Speaker 6: think around the world, why.

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Speaker 4: Hasn't Costco If Costco loves it so much, why haven't

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Speaker 4: they actually expanded thus far? Because they had the Wellington

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Speaker 4: plans and they had the what appears to have been

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Speaker 4: the Roliston plans and nothing's actually open.

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Speaker 6: Well again, I'll just couch it and saying I'm not

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Speaker 6: aware of the current plans. They'll be sort of out

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Speaker 6: of touch with the group there. But at the time,

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Speaker 6: you know, steek up a new country is a very

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Speaker 6: expensive proposition. It takes a lot of infrastructure in terms

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Speaker 6: of the buying side of it. In terms of at

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Speaker 6: that time, the cost of building in Auckland was very expensive.

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Speaker 6: The cost of dealing with the Auckland Council added layers

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Speaker 6: of cost to the whole project. So it's a very

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Speaker 6: expensive cost. So you have to have a return on

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Speaker 6: your investment. So one costo at that time was sort

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Speaker 6: of a test to see how it all worked out.

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Speaker 6: The last thing. The other thing about New Zealand is

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Speaker 6: you're an island or two islands, and getting inventory from

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Speaker 6: North America, from Asia and from the Australian market took

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Speaker 6: a lot of coordination, so that that also presents some

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Speaker 6: issues as well being in stock all the time.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that it's the game change of Costco?

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Speaker 4: Is the game changer that the country is looking for?

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Speaker 6: Oh? I think so. I think I think Costco just

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Speaker 6: from the merchandising perspective and now that they're working out

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Speaker 6: the kinks we had initially, I think Costco can bring

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Speaker 6: a lot of value to the market for the New

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Speaker 6: Zealand consumers. Absolutely, we're proving that already and in fact

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Speaker 6: that hasn't changed this day we open.

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Speaker 4: Patrick, thank you for your time. Patrick Noon, former Costco

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Speaker 4: Managing Director of New Zealand five fourteene. Even better than

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Speaker 4: I thought when I was telling you yesterday that the

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Speaker 4: Women's that's being reported that the Women's Ministry and the

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Speaker 4: Pacific People's Ministry and the pair the Ministry for Disabled

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Speaker 4: People all going to be rolled into bigger ministry, sucked

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Speaker 4: up by somebody else and basically sucked up into non existence.

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Speaker 4: Even better us than that. Apparently it's much bigger what

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Speaker 4: is being considered. Apparently there is potential for a significant consolidation.

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Speaker 4: It was discussed during a Crown Entity Board chairperson meeting

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Speaker 4: with the Public Service Commissioner Sir Brian Roach this month,

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Speaker 4: and what was discussed was that a bunch of a

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Speaker 4: bunch of government departments may in fact merge. There are

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Speaker 4: forty public servants, service departments and departmental agencies at the moment,

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Speaker 4: and that that number could reduce to twenty. How good

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Speaker 4: is that? Basically, what you want to do right now

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Speaker 4: is go find a list of government departments and agencies

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Speaker 4: printed off and then start scratching the ones that you

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Speaker 4: think don't really matter, they're going to be sucked up

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Speaker 4: into the other ones five fourteen. Hey, how big could

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Speaker 4: your nest are grow me? That is a question you

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Speaker 4: should be asking if you're serious about your financial future.

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Speaker 4: Investing can feel overwhelming these days. Everyone's got an opinion

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Speaker 4: half the time. You don't know who to trust with

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Speaker 4: your hard earned money, and that's where FMT comes in.

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Speaker 4: They treat your nest egg like it's their own, and

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Speaker 4: the results speak for themselves. Last quarter, they delivered an

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Speaker 4: annualized six point seven six percent per annum pre tax

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Speaker 4: return and now past performance, of course, as you know,

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Speaker 4: isn't a reliable indicator of future performance, but it does

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Speaker 4: show that they know what they're doing. And what I

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Speaker 4: like about FMT is they're not trying to sell you

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Speaker 4: some complicated investment product that you need a PhD to understand.

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Speaker 4: They're focused on protecting and nurturing your money the way

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Speaker 4: that you would if you had the expertise. The team

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Speaker 4: is friendly, they'll talk to you like you're a human being,

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Speaker 4: and they understand that this is your future that we're

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Speaker 4: talking about. So give them a call on eight hundred

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Speaker 4: FMT dot co dot nz for the product disclosure statements.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplessy Allen.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen past five. Now the country's largest supercomputer is officially

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Speaker 4: online and we're using it to predict the weather. Earth

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Speaker 4: Sciences in z which was formerly KNIEWA, has acquired the

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Speaker 4: new tech for a cool thirty five million dollars. Jess

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Speaker 4: Robertson is the chief Science Scientist for Advanced Technology at

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Speaker 4: Earth Sciences, New Zealand, and it is with us.

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Speaker 14: Now, Hey, Jess, good a, Heather, how are you doing well?

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: Is the supercomputer going to make our weather prediction more accurate?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 23: Look, we absolutely hope.

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Speaker 24: So.

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Speaker 23: I mean it's an absolute beast, this thing that's sixty

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Speaker 23: eight thousand cores. It'll do more calculations in a day

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Speaker 23: than you could do in thirty million years. And that

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Speaker 23: means we're going to be able to run a higher

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Speaker 23: resolution forecasts quicker and get them out to people sooner.

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Speaker 23: So really looking forward to what it can do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So if we had had this tech back in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three, could we have better plan for cyclone Gabriel

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Speaker 4: or the Auckland floods.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, look, I mean, this is certainly one of the

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Speaker 23: big questions. It's really really hard to predict these really

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Speaker 23: extreme events when they roll through. One of the things

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Speaker 23: that we want to be able to do with the

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Speaker 23: new supercomputer is run ultra high resolution forecast. So, for example,

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Speaker 23: over Auckland, we have a three hundred meter resolution forecast

873
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Speaker 23: at super high resolution. Team New Zealand used that to

874
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Speaker 23: win the America's Cup. We want to be able to

875
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Speaker 23: roll those out to other areas when we have events

876
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Speaker 23: like Cyclone Gabriel rolling in so that we can better

877
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Speaker 23: prepare people on the ground for what's coming down the pikat.

878
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Speaker 4: So do we have enough? I mean, one of the

879
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Speaker 4: things with these really big computers in AI and stuff

880
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Speaker 4: like that is the lack of energy or the need

881
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Speaker 4: for energy. Have we got enough energy for this thing?

882
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Speaker 23: We do, actually, and we've been really pleased with how

883
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 23: much energy it has actually used. It's ended up using

884
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Speaker 23: about thirty percent less energy than we thought it was

885
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Speaker 23: going to. We've got this, We've got this hosted up

886
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Speaker 23: here with our partners CDC here in Auckland. It's run

887
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Speaker 23: on one hundred percent renewed energy. So that's well, the

888
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Speaker 23: energy is kind of a big cost of running one

889
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 23: of these machines. We've sort of made it as planet

890
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Speaker 23: friendly as possible.

891
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Speaker 4: Basically, Jess, do you live in Auckland or Wellington?

892
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Speaker 23: I actually live in christ Church at the moment.

893
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Speaker 4: Do you know anything about what happens seasonally? I want

894
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Speaker 4: to know whether it's worth staying in Auckland for the

895
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Speaker 4: first week of the school holidays in late September to

896
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Speaker 4: see if I would I be able.

897
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Speaker 23: To swim m I being over well, I think you

898
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Speaker 23: have to go and have a look at our five

899
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Speaker 23: week forecast, which one of our yeah we do as

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Speaker 23: an a there's an AI five week forecast. It's called

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Speaker 23: me We're thirty five because we haven't done the rebrand yet,

902
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Speaker 23: but eventually we'll update the acronym and that gives you

903
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Speaker 23: sort of roughly roughly five weeks out. I think three

904
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Speaker 23: weeks out for that kind of start of September is

905
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Speaker 23: looking wet for the North Island. We were thinking it's

906
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Speaker 23: probably going to be wet for the All Blacks game

907
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Speaker 23: and Wellington. Unfortunately. The really really big benefit though as

908
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Speaker 23: a christ Church person is we're looking at a massive

909
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 23: dump of snow down in Southern Alps tonight, So unfortunately

910
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Speaker 23: I'll be stuck in Wellington tomorrow. But if I was

911
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Speaker 23: back home in christ to Hey.

912
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Speaker 4: Thanks for that. That's actually really useful to know that

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Speaker 4: you've got a five week forecast. Jess robertson, Earth Scientist

914
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Speaker 4: for Advanced Technology at Earth Sciences, New Zealand formerly known

915
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Speaker 4: as neewhere. You're gonna have to get used to it.

916
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 4: The days of newer are gone. Got some interesting marriage oh,

917
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Speaker 4: by the way, Henry Rickins on the text that Guam,

918
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Speaker 4: with the population of one hundred and thirty thousand people,

919
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Speaker 4: has got two costcos we've only got one, so step

920
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Speaker 4: it up. Costco. Some interesting marriage data out today. The

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Speaker 4: number of couples getting married or entering into civil unions

922
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Speaker 4: is down. Now that weren't really surprising because there are

923
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Speaker 4: other options available Now, you know, you don't have to

924
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 4: get married, like there isn't the societal pressure to get married.

925
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 4: You can show your commitment in other ways, like getting

926
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Speaker 4: matching tattoos or whatever. Back in the nineties, twenty one

927
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Speaker 4: thousand people on average got married every year. It's now

928
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Speaker 4: down to eighteen thousand people. That's a fall of fourteen percent.

929
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Speaker 4: But The other reason that that people aren't getting married

930
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Speaker 4: at the same rate is because is because fewer people

931
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Speaker 4: get remarried. So back in the nineties, and I'm looking

932
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Speaker 4: at you, back in the nineties, when you knocked off

933
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Speaker 4: the first wife, not like killed her, but I mean

934
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Speaker 4: like when that one finished, you were like, oh what

935
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Speaker 4: am I going to do with my life? And you

936
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Speaker 4: found the second wife, and then you know, if you

937
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: were if you were really wild, you'd be onto yet

938
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Speaker 4: fourth or you know, doing a Liz Taylor. Nowadays, it

939
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Speaker 4: doesn't happen as much. Back in the nineties, thirty five

940
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Speaker 4: percent of marriages were remarriages. It's now down to Winny

941
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Speaker 4: a quarter of them ma remarriages. You know, I don't

942
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Speaker 4: know why do you think that is? Why do you

943
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: think that is? Guys? Do you know why? Because ladies

944
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 4: have got our own money now we don't need you

945
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Speaker 4: as much. And then we're like, is it worth it?

946
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Speaker 4: On balance? Like on balance, I can live by myself

947
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Speaker 4: have a happy life, or I can get married again.

948
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Speaker 4: Hmm did it one time? Found out how it went?

949
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 4: That's what's going on here, isn't it? Isn't it though?

950
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Speaker 2: Five twenty two, cutting through the noise to get the facts.

951
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: It's Heather duf cy Ellen drive with one New Zealand

952
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: coverage like no one else news talks.

953
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 4: They'd be Heather, it's Jase from Queenstown. You can't make

954
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: this up. But my old man's been married nine times

955
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 4: back in America, nine wives, five twenty five. Now, this

956
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 4: is not going to shock you at all. But Labour

957
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 4: has criticized Nichola Willis's supermarket announcement yesterday. Barbara Edmonds is

958
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 4: the one doing the criticism. She said the fast track regime,

959
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 4: while sensible, would not make any immediate difference for struggling

960
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 4: New Zealanders. Edmonds, however, did not offer up any alternative

961
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 4: suggestions of her own, because of course she didn't. Now look,

962
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 4: let's cut the cynicism. I mean, it's been fair to

963
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 4: be cynical up to this point because Nichola Willis has

964
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 4: actually done a lot of talking without any delivering. But

965
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: this was actually a good announcement. If it takes a

966
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 4: supermarket four years to open up from go to woe,

967
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 4: you know that there's too much red tape. Cutting the

968
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 4: red tape is a no brainer. It's not going to

969
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: open up a supermarket tomorrow Shaw. But if a supermarket

970
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: chain does see value in coming to New Zealand, which

971
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,959
Speaker 4: is a crucial part of the equation, it will help.

972
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: It's certainly much more helpful than nonsense like a grocery commission,

973
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 4: which if I remember correctly, was set up by labor,

974
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 4: or a grocery code of Conduct, which if I remember correctly,

975
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 4: was set up by labor. Now what would Barbara rather have,

976
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 4: because it seems like the step up from this is

977
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: supermarkets being broken up, either through force, devestment or structural separation.

978
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 4: That is so nutty that even the nuttiest government that

979
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: we've had for ages, which for the avoidance of doubt

980
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: was obviously the Arduran government, even they did not do it.

981
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: They were nutty enough to do the oil and Gas band,

982
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 4: but still not nutty enough to do this, because it

983
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: would have scared international investors off New Zealand so badly

984
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 4: that you'd wonder if we would ever have been able

985
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: to get them back. To be honest with you, I

986
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 4: worry that all of the chat that we've already had

987
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 4: around regulating and punishing supermarkets may have already started to

988
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 4: prevent these guys from wanting to come in here. Who knows.

989
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 4: Let's see how it plays out. But short of doing

990
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: something crazy like breaking up these businesses, what we got

991
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: yesterday I think was sensible and welcome and not to

992
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: be criticized unless you've got a better idea Togever do.

993
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: For ce, Ellen, we need to.

994
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: Talk about Graymouth's district council. They've been laughing at rates.

995
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 9: Now.

996
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 4: I don't have the time to play you the audio

997
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: right now, so I'm going to play you the audio

998
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 4: in a minute when we can properly, properly sit down

999
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 4: and and and just really appreciate the laughing that they've done.

1000
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: And you can make your judgment as to whether it was,

1001
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 4: as they say, nervous laughter or just outright hahaha. You're

1002
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 4: getting stung with the rates bill. You decide for yourself.

1003
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 4: But next up, let's have a chat to the toting

1004
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 4: a business association about that Port Warf extension being stopped

1005
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 4: in the courts yesterday.

1006
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 7: News is next, hard questions, strong opinion, Heather Duplicy Ellen

1007
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 7: Drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite

1008
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 7: mobile news dogs'd be.

1009
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: Where you going.

1010
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 4: Half been home Landford. Yes, actually it would appear done

1011
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 4: kind of well which does really force me to reassess

1012
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 4: whether I want to see them sold off or not.

1013
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 4: We're gonna have a chat to them after six. Huddle

1014
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 4: is standing by. I've got a question for you really quickly.

1015
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 4: What age do you think you are going to live to?

1016
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 4: So at what age do you think you're going to die?

1017
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 4: Think about that. I'm going to come back to him.

1018
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 4: It's a bit grim, I know, but I'm going to

1019
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 4: come back to that shortly. Right now. It is twenty

1020
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 4: five away from six now. As I told you yesterday,

1021
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: the Port of Todunger has had another snag in its

1022
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 4: efforts to extend the wolf at Sulfur Point. The port

1023
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: has been trying to get this consented for years. It's

1024
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 4: had to fight objections from local EWE and the Environment Court,

1025
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 4: made an application to be fast tracked, but then found

1026
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 4: out that the application is on hold after a judicial review.

1027
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 4: Matt Cowley is the CEO of Todunger Business Chamber and

1028
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: with us Hey Matt Hey, Heather, I imagine this is

1029
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 4: hugely disappointing.

1030
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 9: Look, it is a very cool, calm and collected guys

1031
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 9: you would expect from many publicly listed company, but for

1032
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 9: them to issue such a statement shows the level of

1033
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 9: frustration out there.

1034
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, because what are they frustrated by the fact that

1035
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 4: they'd left a couple of words out of the application

1036
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 4: and as a result of that, the judicial review scrupped it.

1037
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, you wouldn't believe it. They managed to get inside

1038
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 9: schedule two of the legislation, they missed out a few words.

1039
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 9: So the High Foot judge obviously said, nah, it doesn't

1040
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 9: flit the scope. And it's amazing how a little insignificant

1041
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 9: sand during has gotten the way millions of dollars coming

1042
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 9: into our economy.

1043
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 4: Does the E we have edie? Is there any merits

1044
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 4: to the ewi's objections here?

1045
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 9: Oh, I don't know the ewe's case that much. But

1046
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 9: they're in mitigation. So even the Environment Court has said

1047
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 9: that the environmental impacts are negligible long term, so the

1048
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 9: mitigation is kind of what's holding it up, which of

1049
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 9: course can happen while building is happening in underway. It's

1050
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 9: been five years and there is a lot of frustration

1051
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 9: up there, particularly missing cargo and shipping lines to the Americas,

1052
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 9: which is obviously a big part of me and Brown's

1053
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 9: talk around lining up with China's belt and Road initiative.

1054
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 4: What does it mean to get this, to get this

1055
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 4: wolf done, the extension done. What would it mean for business?

1056
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 9: It will obviously have a long term impact in terms

1057
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 9: of greater capacity because soon there's going to be bottlenecks

1058
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 9: and the last thing we need is supply chain bottlenecks,

1059
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 9: you know, with ships either being delayed or staying left

1060
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 9: out at sea just waiting for their anchorage to come in.

1061
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 9: And it's just that time delays which really impact and

1062
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 9: having to turn ships away because the capacity is a

1063
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 9: big no no, not what we need for this economy.

1064
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 4: No jeez, not at all. Now we are waiting. Obviously

1065
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 4: they were supposed to have the fast track hearing on

1066
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 4: the first of September. Do we have yet any idea

1067
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 4: when it will once they've managed to refile the paperwork

1068
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 4: when we're looking at for that.

1069
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 9: Ideally the government would amend the legislation immediately to clear

1070
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 9: this up so they don't need to go through judicial review.

1071
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 9: That that's the ultimate bolve.

1072
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, here's hoping, Matt. Thank you very much, Matt

1073
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 4: Cowley toting a Business Chamber of CEO. Now here we go. Okay,

1074
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: have a listen to this. This is the Graymouth District

1075
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 4: councilors laughing at the fact that their rate payers across

1076
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 4: about rates rises. So what happened is they lumped their

1077
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 4: rate payers with a thirteen percent thirteen percent rates rise,

1078
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 4: which which you know a few years ago would have

1079
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 4: seemed outrageous and now apparently it's just what we do.

1080
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 4: And they had a meeting on Monday to discuss it

1081
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 4: and one counselor asked if there had been any pushback,

1082
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 4: but it was one of those rate increase and this

1083
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 4: was how they responded, Yes, thirteen percent lolls. One of

1084
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: the councilors, Kate Kennedy, had said, look, sorry, it was

1085
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 4: nervous laughter.

1086
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 2: Was it nervous laughter?

1087
00:52:59,040 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1088
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, was it?

1089
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 4: Though? Twenty one away from six.

1090
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty find your

1091
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: one of a kind on the.

1092
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 4: Huddle with me this evening. We have two counselors, Morris

1093
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 4: Williamson from Auckland Council and Alie Jones from somewhere in

1094
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 4: christ Church something. What are you, Alie? I don't really

1095
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: know anything board.

1096
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 21: I'm good.

1097
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 11: I'm good.

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00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, this's like basically the same thing. Well, Okay, Morris,

1099
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 4: was it nervous laughter? Was it?

1100
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 14: No?

1101
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 25: No?

1102
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 26: And look, quite frankly, any rate rise of that sort

1103
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 26: of magnitude is embarrassing for them, and they should have

1104
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 26: because here we've got an Uckham, we've got a five

1105
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 26: point eight. People get fired point that there's a lot

1106
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 26: up in the fifteens and the twenties, because at either

1107
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 26: end of an average there's eiland some of winners and losers.

1108
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 26: And I just feel for some of those poor sods,

1109
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 26: you know, they're on fixed income. Some people they live

1110
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 26: in a place that where it just happens that they

1111
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 26: are on the higher end of it, a struggling to

1112
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 26: pay already, and we got unsuited them.

1113
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 27: So I sit there every day pleading with.

1114
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 26: Counselors to say, let's polease, not just keep spending money

1115
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 26: that just gets adding a bill onto ratepayers. And at

1116
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 26: five point foot still high, thirteen's disgraceful.

1117
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally, Ali, Did that sound nervous to you?

1118
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 6: Do?

1119
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 13: You know?

1120
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 21: I think the mayor actually said, or what someone said,

1121
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 21: They were not laughing about rate payers.

1122
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 11: It was the irony of being asked if they'd been

1123
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 11: pushed back over the rates.

1124
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 21: But the optics were awful, And I think that's the point.

1125
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 21: If I was in a room with a whole lot

1126
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 21: of colleagues and someone said, so, did you get pushed

1127
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 21: back on thirteen point nine percent, I'd go, are you kidding?

1128
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 21: But I wouldn't do that in a public meeting, So,

1129
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 21: you know, I think it's the context of it, and

1130
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 21: they were silly to think that they could do that.

1131
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 11: In a public meeting.

1132
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 21: It's a very somber, as Morris said, it's a very serious,

1133
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 21: important issue. So I think it's about appropriate appropriateness, and

1134
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 21: it wasn't appropriate.

1135
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 4: Do you know what that? What it felt to me

1136
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 4: like was if you really understood the for stating impact

1137
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 4: that these rate increases have on some people's lives and

1138
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 4: the decisions that have to make, like potentially even selling

1139
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 4: their house, you would have no reason to even nervously last,

1140
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 4: like it would be far too grim to even crack

1141
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 4: a smile. And the fact that they were able to

1142
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 4: suggest to me they maybe don't realize, which is what

1143
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,959
Speaker 4: I've always suspected, don't realize the impact of what they're doing.

1144
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 21: No, I think it's I think that's not right, Heather.

1145
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 21: I think it was the context. It was the irony

1146
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 21: of being asked if they've been pushed back. You know,

1147
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 21: you say to someone, I'm trying to think of an

1148
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 21: example that I might use.

1149
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 11: I don't know. I can't think.

1150
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 21: So you're getting.

1151
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 11: Old house your memory. It's really terrible, you know.

1152
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 21: I mean that's a bad example. Yeah. So I don't

1153
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 21: think it's that they're out of touch, but you certainly

1154
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 21: don't do that in the public arena. And look, but

1155
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 21: I do think counselors are out of touch. We need

1156
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 21: a cat's rate. That's what I want in christ Church,

1157
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 21: and I think that's what we should be delivering.

1158
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 4: A raidscap.

1159
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 14: Yeah, I look, Heather.

1160
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 26: All I can tell you is I get in calls

1161
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 26: from people in tears and saying we've lived here, like

1162
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 26: in how I go. But just as they get a

1163
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 26: lovely view of Harbor, I mean, they're on the fix.

1164
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 26: They're on their superannuation and maybe a bit more and

1165
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 26: that's it, and they're struggling like steak to keep in

1166
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 26: the house they've been in. And I've had a couple

1167
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 26: of them in tear saying we're just going to have

1168
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 26: to sell because of what you guys keep putting.

1169
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 27: Your rates every year every year it goes.

1170
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 14: Up way more than inflation.

1171
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 27: There's a few graphs.

1172
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 14: We're more than double whatever wage.

1173
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 26: Increases have been over the years and whatever the infatient,

1174
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 26: I only have been priced out of house and home.

1175
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 26: And we've got to stop doing it because we're regularly

1176
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 26: cutting services but increasing what we're charging for it. There's

1177
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 26: going to be a big, big bust up.

1178
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 14: You better be ready for this on your radio show

1179
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 14: within the.

1180
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 27: Next few years, because we've got people open.

1181
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 26: Counsel who want to move to fortnightly rubbish collection and

1182
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 26: some people who say to me, my bins are fall

1183
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 26: every week when I put them out same amount, and yes, well,

1184
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 26: I mean it's just madness. And so I really feel

1185
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 26: for the poor ratepayers of the city, and I keep

1186
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 26: saying at those meetings, let's stop spending money.

1187
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 4: They's just stop spending money on things like two hundred

1188
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 4: and fifty thousand dollars for the fairy lights at Silo Park.

1189
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 21: Oh, I haven't got the numbers around the table, Morris.

1190
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 21: What's your table made up of?

1191
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 14: That's your problem, that is all.

1192
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 26: It's the prolem and local government see in central by

1193
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 26: thirty years off you just when you're a minister and

1194
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 26: you put paper together and you get it done at cabinet.

1195
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 26: You don't even worry about it because the votes are

1196
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 26: done down in the House and you know you've got

1197
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 26: the whips and the whips carry it was done. But

1198
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 26: you bring something to the council on any one day.

1199
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 26: We've had a gardening body meeting all day to day.

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00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 27: You actually have no idea where the votes will form.

1201
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 14: You have no idea.

1202
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 26: And on many occasions I think, oh, this will just

1203
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 26: get absolutely slammed, don't finished, and it gets through and

1204
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 26: then there's.

1205
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 27: Others other this is innsible. Stuff gets bold and I

1206
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 27: keeps Jesus I can't read it.

1207
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, listen, We're just going to take a quick

1208
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 4: break because Morris, your line is dodgy as all hell.

1209
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 4: And we'll come back shortly sixteen away from six.

1210
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: The huddle with new Zeale Southby's International Realty's a global

1211
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: leader in luxury real estate.

1212
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 4: Right, you're back with Morris Williamson and Allie Jones. Allie,

1213
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 4: what do you make of the government loosening the liquor

1214
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 4: licensing rules?

1215
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 21: I think it flies in the face of what a

1216
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 21: lot of people are saying around local alcohol policy.

1217
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 11: Certainly in christ.

1218
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 21: Church we've managed to get one through after not having

1219
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 21: much success the last time we tried it. I didn't

1220
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 21: have a problem with liquor stores closing a little earlier,

1221
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 21: and there seems to be a lack of consistency over

1222
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 21: it as well around the country, which I think is confusing.

1223
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 21: But yeah, I would I'd think it is opening us.

1224
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 11: Up to more harm from alcohol abuse. To be honest,

1225
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 11: I mean, I.

1226
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 21: Think you know you although we have to sort out.

1227
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 11: The delivery, the home delivery of alcohol as.

1228
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 21: Well, there's no point in closing alcohol stores down in

1229
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 21: supermarkets and other places if you can pick the phone

1230
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 21: up in order until God knows when in the morning.

1231
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 26: Morris Well, I lived in California and you had big

1232
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 26: billboards all up and down the road offering uber each

1233
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 26: delivering you your wacky backy. So I thought that was

1234
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,479
Speaker 26: quite I thought that was quite interesting. Look, I would

1235
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 26: have thought there were plenty of outlets for alcohol and

1236
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 26: open enough, as it is the idea that somehow if

1237
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 26: you're at three o'clock in the morning on a Wednesday,

1238
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 26: stuck somewhere and you can't buy yourself a drink. Well,

1239
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 26: so what I mean I'm reasonably liberal on all these things,

1240
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 26: and it's not the biggest I wouldn't have thought it

1241
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 26: was the biggest thing on the government's radar. I think

1242
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 26: they've got a lot more on their plate to be

1243
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 26: sorting out now. I just think there's quite a lot

1244
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 26: of harm from alcohol. Alcohol, in my views, like a toyota.

1245
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 26: If you use it properly, it's good for you. You

1246
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 26: misuse it and it's really bad what it can descrive you.

1247
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 4: No, No, fair enough, Hey, listen, tell me Morris. We

1248
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: had the guys from at On yesterday and they were saying,

1249
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 4: to spend on the temporary traffic management and the roe

1250
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 4: Cones is fair because it's only five percent of the

1251
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 4: capital expenditure. Now you're on the board. Is five percent fair?

1252
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 26: I think that's a dreadful answer to say that. That's

1253
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 26: sixty three million, and I think it worked out it's

1254
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 26: sort of what was it, seventeen thousand dollars a day

1255
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 26: or something. I think if you might divide that by

1256
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 26: the three sixty five and it's just a port one

1257
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 26: hundred and seventy one thousand a day, that is one

1258
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 26: hundred and seventy one thousand a day.

1259
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 14: Look in the end, We've tried. The Mayor's tried.

1260
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 26: He's really tried to say to them right from the outset,

1261
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 26: there's a new regime in town because the National Party

1262
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 26: came in and put a new policy statement on temper

1263
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 26: traffic management, which is a risk based system. When I

1264
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 26: heard that interview last night, I thought to myself, Yeah,

1265
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 26: there are contracts in place, so we really can't do

1266
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 26: anything about it. Well, if you had a commercial bone

1267
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 26: in your body, you'd go straight to those big contracts

1268
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 26: you've got and say to those people we'd like to renegotiate,

1269
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 26: are going to actually make it less onerous for you,

1270
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 26: So dropping how much you have to do, and we'll

1271
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 26: try and have the amount that we can save you

1272
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 26: take fifty percent. You could have drop back to the

1273
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 26: new risk based system which was introduced by nz TA,

1274
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 26: which is the leader. That's the government's one. We should

1275
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 26: be following the government. We should be having all of

1276
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 26: the contracts new as of now. Not I mean halfway

1277
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 26: through twenty twenty seven is just nonsense. But you could

1278
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 26: also do some the big contracts that are in place

1279
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 26: and say to the big companies, here we go, we'll

1280
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 26: share in the in the largess out of this, you

1281
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 26: can get about three million. Yeah, split savings, and we'll

1282
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 26: go to that new regime as of next week.

1283
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, tar enough.

1284
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 11: Do you like the idea of that, Alley, Yeah, I

1285
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 11: do like the idea of that.

1286
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 21: But I think going back to what you were saying before, Heather,

1287
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 21: about you know, why do we keep spending this money?

1288
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 21: Why do rates keep going up? And I think it's

1289
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 21: I think it's a culture. I think it's a lack

1290
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 21: of understanding that every dollar counts. I mean, this is

1291
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 21: how we run our homes, how we run our businesses,

1292
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 21: and within reason, it shouldn't be any different in government.

1293
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 21: But for eighty to say that sixty three million dollars

1294
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 21: isn't much considering they've got a one point two billion

1295
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 21: dollar infrastructure program to me encapsulates exactly what the problem

1296
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 21: is here. This is like boiling a.

1297
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 11: Frog in hot water, you know, it's it.

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Speaker 21: Happens over years, over years, over years, and then you

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Speaker 21: get to point you go, how the hell did we

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Speaker 21: get here? Oh, it was only a point zero two

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Speaker 21: percent of the rates, So, you know, I think that

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Speaker 21: kind of attitude has got to go, because that's why

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Speaker 21: we're in the shop that we're in totally Alie's.

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Speaker 26: Ali's absolutely correct. But let me tell you one other

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Speaker 26: thing is that it's not their money, and that's what

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Speaker 26: annoys me about it. You see, if you were in,

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Speaker 26: if it was your money and you were deciding whether

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Speaker 26: you would do it or not, you'd take a totally

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Speaker 26: different attitude to what you were doing. And I was

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Speaker 26: on the board of a private company here in Auckland

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Speaker 26: that was very successful, and everything was about should we

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Speaker 26: need to spend this money? Why are we not getting

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Speaker 26: that now? Safety is one of those issues where you've

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Speaker 26: got to get it clearing your head. It always has

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Speaker 26: to be safety at reasonable cost, not safety at any cost,

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Speaker 26: because if you make it any cost, you could turn

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Speaker 26: the speed limit to five kilometers an hour for every

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Speaker 26: vehicle in New Zealand, have a man walking in front

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Speaker 26: of it with a red flag, sorry, a person walking

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Speaker 26: in front of it with a red flag, and we'd

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Speaker 26: have no one die on the roads, but we'd be

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Speaker 26: bankrupt within a week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah too. Right now, listen, Alie, can I just ask

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Speaker 4: you really quickly do you have any theory as to

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Speaker 4: why it is that remarriages are down since the nineties?

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Speaker 2: Was just the.

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Speaker 4: No, you're a woman. You'll have a theory on this.

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Speaker 11: So marriage.

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Speaker 4: So in the nineties when when they looked at the

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Speaker 4: number of marriages happening across the country, thirty three percent

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Speaker 4: were people getting remarried, like you know, the first marriage

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Speaker 4: didn't work or the second and they were on their third.

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Speaker 4: Now it's only a quarter. And my theory is is

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Speaker 4: because as women we don't need the men anymore, Like

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Speaker 4: financially we're dependent so independent, so we're tossing it up.

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Speaker 4: We're going it's just too hard. Had one. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think you're right.

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Speaker 11: Now, I think you're right.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: I researched the documentary number of years ago called Married

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Speaker 21: Again and Again, and we found a woman who'd been

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Speaker 21: married eight times and she'd be.

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Speaker 11: Married for two guys twice than that.

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Speaker 14: So she was a cheam.

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Speaker 21: But not the reason.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, it wasn't.

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Speaker 21: No, I think you're right, And I think the reason

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Speaker 21: is too that people have decided that they can live,

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Speaker 21: you know, much more frugally.

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Speaker 11: That's that's how I feel.

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Speaker 21: I'd live in a bus if.

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Speaker 11: It meant that you didn't have to marry again.

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Speaker 26: Okay, God one of the one of the lovely Old

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Speaker 26: sayings I used to remember being said, is that a

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Speaker 26: woman who remarries doesn't deserve to have lost her first husband.

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Speaker 4: Guys, it's lovely to chat to the pair of you. Honestly,

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Speaker 4: so many of us are getting in big trouble. Later on,

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Speaker 4: Morris Williams and Allie Jones Our Huddle.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Art Radio powered by news Talk Zebbi.

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Speaker 4: Heather, women don't need to get remarried because they took

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Speaker 4: everything they need from the first husband. Thank you, Keith,

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Speaker 4: what about this one? Hang on to take hang on,

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Speaker 4: I've gotta find a view, absolutely, Heather, the remarriage. I'm

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Speaker 4: still married, but I told my husband if he dies,

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Speaker 4: there's no way I'm going back for round two. And

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Speaker 4: if he ever cheats, that's my get out of jail. Freak.

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Speaker 4: I walk past this bookshop non Ponsonby Road and there's

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Speaker 4: a card outside that said it says something like when

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Speaker 4: I was young, I always wanted to get married at

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Speaker 4: twenty two. Everybody laugh with me and it just tickles

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Speaker 4: me every single time. I will pass anyway, epsos. I

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Speaker 4: asked you earlier, at what age do you think you're

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Speaker 4: gonna die. Someone says seventy five. Someone says, I'm seventy

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Speaker 4: seven at the moment, but I think I'm going to

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Speaker 4: live until one hundred and ten. Why not exactly, Mike?

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 4: Well, the reason I was asking you that is because

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Speaker 4: IPSOS has actually done a study of what we think

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Speaker 4: they do. They do these interesting little studies from time

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Speaker 4: to time, and most people think that they're going to

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Speaker 4: live to the age of eighty one. The gen x's

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Speaker 4: they are the people who are kind of like forties

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Speaker 4: and fifties at the moment. Gen X is reckon they're

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Speaker 4: going to go to eighty three. Baby Boomers reckon, they're

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Speaker 4: going to make it to eighty five. The average is

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Speaker 4: eighty one. Most people think. They also ask like, what

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Speaker 4: do you think is old? And the young ones these

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Speaker 4: are the youngest ones in the workforce at the moments,

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Speaker 4: they'll be in their twenties. Gen zs they think that

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Speaker 4: when you hit sixty one year old, just the honey,

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Speaker 4: you're in for a shock when you hit sixty one.

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Speaker 4: Baby boomers think that it's that you're old. When you

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Speaker 4: hit seventy two. The average is sixty six. So if

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Speaker 4: the average of us. If on average we think we're

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Speaker 4: going to live to eighty one, and if on average

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Speaker 4: we think that's sixty six is old, they're on average

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Speaker 4: we think that we're going to be spending fifteen years

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Speaker 4: in old age. Apparently the prime of life is considered

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Speaker 4: to be twenty eight to thirty five. Now I would

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Speaker 4: I would push back on that. I don't reckon that's

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Speaker 4: the prime of your life at all. I reckon the

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Speaker 4: prime of your life is sort of like, well, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't think I've come to the end of the

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Speaker 4: prime of my life. My knees do hurt a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you, especially in the mornings when

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Speaker 4: I get up. It's hard, isn't it. I don't come

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Speaker 4: through that. What's that very convincing?

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Speaker 8: That's true.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that I'm through the prime of my life.

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Speaker 4: But I reckon the prime of your life starts about

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Speaker 4: thirty five when you're actually making proper money. Before that,

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Speaker 4: it's just it's just a grind, isn't it anyway? Land

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Speaker 4: Corps who are actually making proper money with us. Next

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Speaker 4: news stork ZV.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up? What's down?

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Speaker 1: One with a major call and how will it affect

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Speaker 1: the economy? The big business questions on the Business Hour

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Speaker 1: with Heather Duplessy, Allen and Mas.

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Speaker 2: For Trusted Home Insurance Solutions, News Talks V.

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Speaker 4: Evening coming up in the next hour. The luxury sector

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Speaker 4: is having a bit of a tough time. Sam Dickie

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Speaker 4: will explain Jamie mckaias with US shortly and Ender Brady

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Speaker 4: does the UK for US. Seven past six now huge

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Speaker 4: turnaround for Land Corp, reporting a net profit after tax

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Speaker 4: of one hundred and twenty million dollars for the year.

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Speaker 4: That is up from a twenty six million dollar net

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Speaker 4: loss last year. This means the business is going to

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Speaker 4: pay the government a dividend of fifteen million dollars. Mark

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Speaker 4: Lesley's the chief executive and with.

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Speaker 25: US Hi Mark Evening here you be with you now.

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Speaker 4: You sound as thrilled as I think that you are.

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Speaker 25: I am, and it's great to post the result, but

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Speaker 25: equally I'm thrilled for all of our people as well,

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Speaker 25: because there's a lot of people right through the organization

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Speaker 25: who work hard every day and many who do the

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Speaker 25: mahia on the farms every day. It's nice to be

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Speaker 25: able to acknowledge the hard work turning up and producing

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Speaker 25: some fantastic results.

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Speaker 4: What's the secret to the turnaround? How do you do this?

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Speaker 25: I think it's it is something that we as a

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Speaker 25: team have been working on over the last few years.

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Speaker 25: It's it's a very new look leadership group with some

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Speaker 25: few white heads in there as well, and just really

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Speaker 25: going back to some real good basics of farming and

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Speaker 25: farm management. So whether it's our livestock farms and just

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Speaker 25: start focusing on the core of lending percentages and things

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Speaker 25: like that, or our dairy units and focusing on cows

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Speaker 25: and condition and the likes. We've just really gone back

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Speaker 25: to those basics to get the core fundamentals right. And

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Speaker 25: the nice part of it that's gone with it is

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Speaker 25: actually getting some really good commodity prices, so that's that's

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Speaker 25: helped as part of that as well. And I think

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Speaker 25: you're saying where I suppose a we're a good signal

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Speaker 25: of where the agriculture sector is at at the moment

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Speaker 25: and in a pretty good heart.

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Speaker 4: What have you ditched?

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Speaker 25: We We've had We've we've had to make some few

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Speaker 25: tough calls, so we've we've Palmer Foods, which was our

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Speaker 25: venture into selling products beyond the farm gate. We had

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Speaker 25: a tough call on that about eighteen months and closed

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Speaker 25: some of that down. We've consolidated some leadership roles and

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Speaker 25: taken them some overheads out. There was a number of

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Speaker 25: when I started, there was probably one hundred plus little

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Speaker 25: trials right across the farm, across all of our farms,

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Speaker 25: and they were each in their own right, we're interesting,

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Speaker 25: but they were probably an element of distraction as well.

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Speaker 25: So we've simplified and stripped some of those things back

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Speaker 25: to then allow us us to focus on those core

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Speaker 25: things that farmers need to do every day.

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Speaker 4: What kind of stuff was Palmu Food selling?

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Speaker 25: So Palmu Foods were selling milk powder, bulk milk powder

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Speaker 25: out into the international market. So yeah, that was at

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Speaker 25: a time I suppose in the past where the business

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Speaker 25: was looking to diversify its incomes trains and so that

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Speaker 25: was established and hey, you end up competing with some

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Speaker 25: of the very large processes out of New Zealand. And

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Speaker 25: with call was we made the call that that wasn't

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Speaker 25: our core business and go back to where we can

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Speaker 25: fundamentally make a different And.

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Speaker 4: What about these trials? What was the most ambitious of

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Speaker 4: the trials.

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Speaker 25: There was a number of and there was technology trials

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Speaker 25: looking at condition scoring cows and the likes, and many

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Speaker 25: of them will have their day and they will come

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Speaker 25: to fruition. So but we've gone back and said, hey,

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Speaker 25: let's look at those. We don't need to be at

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Speaker 25: the bleeding edge of some of those technologies. We've continued

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Speaker 25: some of the areas with jets and dairy beef and

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Speaker 25: where we believe we've got some real skills. So we're

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Speaker 25: focused back on those because they will drive our core performance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, are you still doing the deer milking?

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Speaker 25: Yep, we are still looking at it. Well, we're still

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Speaker 25: doubt selling deer products as we speak, and we've got

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Speaker 25: really strong consumer demand coming out of Southeast Asia. It's

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Speaker 25: a very very small part of our business, so my

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Speaker 25: focus is on the bigger part. But we've kept that going.

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Speaker 25: It's a nice compliment to our large dear business. We

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Speaker 25: have a very large year business across the rest of

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Speaker 25: the network.

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Speaker 4: So do you reckon you've put the brakes by delivering

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Speaker 4: a result like this and then also talking about you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe even increasing it through to twenty thirty and the

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Speaker 4: next five years. Do you reckon You've put the Brakes

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Speaker 4: on the government selling off bits of you.

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Speaker 25: I've always been pretty clear on that that's a decision

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Speaker 25: for the government.

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Speaker 7: Of the day.

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Speaker 25: But also the bit I've also see it does have

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Speaker 25: some complexities with it as well. There is a number

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Speaker 25: of those farms that are still subject to treaty sentiments settlements.

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Speaker 25: Is a number that a lease, there's a number of it.

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01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 25: They've got first right of refusal, so that that has

1514
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 25: some complexity. That's a decision for the government of the day.

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01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 25: The bit I can keep doing is what we've just

1516
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 25: been talking about, is delivering some fantastic results and paying

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01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 25: playing a dividend back to the crown.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good stuff, Mark, keep it up. Thank you. Mark Leslee,

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01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 4: Chief executive of Land Corp. Isn't it amazing? Though, I mean,

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01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 4: I hate to be the person who says this on

1521
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 4: a good day, but I'm going to say it. Isn't

1522
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 4: it amazing that the government had to come in and

1523
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 4: be like, hey, can you do your job properly and

1524
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 4: then went oh yeah, okay, fine, we'll do our job

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01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 4: properly and then they shut down all the nonsense. Isn't

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01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 4: that wonderful? That's all It took twelve past.

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Speaker 2: Six, Heather, do for see Ellen here the why are.

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01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 4: You holidaying in the school holidays when you don't have

1529
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,759
Speaker 4: school aged? Oh, I've got a lot of those texts. Actually,

1530
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 4: hither your kids are too young to be worried by

1531
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 4: school holidays. No, here's the thing. One of them goes

1532
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 4: to kindy. So the kindy, I don't know if you

1533
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 4: know this, but the candy it's not daycare. It's not daycare,

1534
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 4: it's kindy and KINDI runs on school hours, didn't I?

1535
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 4: So it runs eight thirty five thirty h school term,

1536
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 4: doesn't that? So I have school holidays already and I

1537
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 4: made that decision. I'm already into it. I don't even

1538
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 4: have to wait till till the kids are five to

1539
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 4: be like, we have school holidays. And this is anyway,

1540
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 4: this brings me to the thing that I need to

1541
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 4: talk to you about, which was when he was on

1542
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 4: before Jess said to us, this is Jess from Niewer.

1543
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 4: Jess said, if you want to know what's happening in

1544
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 4: September when the school holidays is going on, you need

1545
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 4: to dig up the five week forecast. It's called knee

1546
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 4: with thirty five. Now, please tell me if you're in

1547
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 4: the no if I'm doing something wrong here, because I

1548
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 4: cannot understand this. This is very very ninety ninety seven.

1549
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 4: But I've gone and found the KNEE with thirty five

1550
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 4: and it's a data request form. Nee with thirty five

1551
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 4: Data request form. Please complete the form below to request data.

1552
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 4: I've could put my name in my organization, my address,

1553
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 4: my phone number, my email address, and then I've got

1554
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 4: to explain to them what i want, which is I

1555
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 4: guess rainfall. I don't want the drought index, and I

1556
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 4: don't want the soil moisture geographic areas, island scale or regional.

1557
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 4: I just say Auckland one night, Auckland by my pool. Anyway,

1558
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 4: Surely this is not it, Like, surely I'm not gonna

1559
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 4: have to tie up these people. All I want to

1560
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 4: know is what's happening in September. To decide this is ridiculous,

1561
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 4: to decide if I want to stay by the pool

1562
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 4: in Auckland or you know, just flag it and go

1563
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 4: down to Wellington and see some people who we love

1564
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 4: down there. If that is what? Yep, this surely this

1565
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 4: is not it is this is it? If you know,

1566
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 4: please let me know because I I'll fill out the

1567
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 4: form if I have to, but I'm paying the tax

1568
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 4: for the kneework, so THEYOWEMI. But that is very nineteen

1569
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 4: ninety seven to get a forecast five weeks out, isn't it? Anyway?

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01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 4: Hit me up nine two ninet two let me know.

1571
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 4: If this is what I'm dealing with it, I'll just

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01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 4: go ahead and do it. Thank you. Fourteen past six.

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Speaker 2: The Rule Report on Heather Do for ce Alan drive, whether.

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Speaker 4: I've had the misfortune to watch another TV one hatch

1594
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 4: job on Erica Stanford's education curriculum changes. Got you the

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01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 4: Actually we were watching it too, got you the details,

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01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 4: will run you through it shortly seventeen pass six, Jamie

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01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 4: McKay hosts the Countries with Me. Hello, Jamie good. So

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01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 4: how good is that big Land Corp turnaround?

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01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 24: It's pretty good actually, And I'll give a bit of

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01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 24: credit to Mark Leslie. I've been one of their critics

1602
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 24: in the past few years. I think he's moved on

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01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 24: from his predecessor, and I think they were a bit

1604
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 24: guilty of being away, bit woken, going down non traditional

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01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 24: farming paths. He's got them back to their knitting. A

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01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 24: fifteen million dollar dividend to the Crown. That's okay, But

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01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 24: you know this is I guess it's an organization with

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01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 24: I think about one point six billion dollars.

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01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 6: Worth of property.

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Speaker 24: The return on equity is interestingly seven point three percent,

1611
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 24: but the return on asset value total asset values less

1612
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 24: than one percent. But look, they can't sell it. They

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01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 24: can't sell it holes Bowldus because it would collapse the

1614
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 24: landmarket and they wouldn't there wouldn't be buyers for it anyhow.

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01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 24: So I'm just pleased to see Land Corp getting back

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01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 24: to its knitting and getting good results. Now a lot

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01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 24: of you have to temper that, Heather, as Mark did

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01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 24: when he was chatting to you. You know, a good

1619
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 24: portion of this is due to the upturn in commodity prices.

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01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 24: So they've had a big upswing, especially in their dairy

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01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 24: and their red meat. And I don't think he mentioned this,

1622
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 24: but I was chatting to him on my show earlier

1623
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 24: today and that what they're forecasting for the financial year

1624
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 24: twenty six next year is even going to be better,

1625
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 24: and that is off the back of obviously increased commodity

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01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 24: prices from their financial year twenty five. And like the

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01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 24: rest of us, who are in farming, probably considerably less

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01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 24: in terms of their interest payments. So you know they're

1629
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 24: heading in the right direction. Pat on the back for

1630
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 24: that one. They're still not out of the woods yet, though, Heather,

1631
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,520
Speaker 24: because there's the issue of what they do with Molesworth,

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01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 24: New Zealand's biggest farm. It's owned by dock Landcourt Palm,

1633
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 24: who's only the least sea there. I think that lease

1634
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 24: is only confirmed up until twenty twenty six. There's a

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01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 24: lot of concern down at Molesworth and marlbre there about

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01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 24: wilding pines or even the prospect of plant some of

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01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 24: that wonderful farm, and it is a very expensive farm

1638
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 24: and pine trees for carbon farming. We had the sudden

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01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 24: resignation of the long standing manager, Jim Ward in July.

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01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 6: So you know, a bit to come out on the wash.

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01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 3: Yet why did.

1642
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 4: That manager actually quit? Was it really the pines?

1643
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 6: Look?

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01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 24: I don't know, to be perfectly honest, he's been gagged,

1645
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 24: are we? But I asked Mark about today on my

1646
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 24: show and he sort of said, oh no, Well, we

1647
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 24: change our managers quite regularly. Look, Jim Ward had been

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01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 24: there a long long time. From all accounts, he was

1649
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 24: a popular manager. Successful manager. They had a great beef

1650
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 24: operation I think something like six thousand beef cattle there.

1651
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 24: I know that he was not happy with the way

1652
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 24: the wilding pines were being managed. That may not even

1653
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 24: be a land corp issue. That's probably a dock issue.

1654
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 24: And I just apparently Mark said to me today on

1655
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 24: the show Mark Leslie that Doc is going to make

1656
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 24: an announcement about what's going to happen to Molesworth Station.

1657
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 24: They haven't necessarily had the best track record on the

1658
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 24: past Heather of taking over productive farm land. So I

1659
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 24: just hope it doesn't go to rack and Ruin and

1660
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 24: Gorse and Broom.

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01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, thank you very much, Jamie. As always Jamie McKay,

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01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 4: host of the Country six twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Heather do for c Ellen.

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01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 4: So this is what TV and Z is reporting. A

1665
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 4: couple of little headaches for Erica Stanford. The first one

1666
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 4: is that eighty nine school principles from around the country

1667
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 4: have sent Erica Stanford an open letter urging her to

1668
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 4: immediately stop plans to replace NCEEA. Now I'm going to

1669
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 4: come back to that. The second one is that the

1670
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 4: High Court has agreed to hold an urgent hearing on

1671
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 4: a claim from a tap from the teacher union n

1672
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:38,919
Speaker 4: ZEI against the government after the government decided to defund

1673
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 4: resources teachers for Maori and literacy. The hearing's going to

1674
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 4: take place next month.

1675
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 6: Now.

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01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 4: On the eighty nine school principles who sent the open

1677
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 4: letter to Erica Stanford, I thought about whether I needed

1678
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 4: I read it this morning in newsroom, and I thought, well,

1679
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 4: do we need to talk about it on the show,

1680
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 4: And then I thought probably not, because I think even

1681
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 4: though eighty nine is a reasonable it is a reasonable

1682
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 4: group of principles, and it does suggest that perhaps when

1683
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 4: I assumed originally that there had been like basically no

1684
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,839
Speaker 4: resistance at all to eric A. Stanford, it does suggest

1685
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 4: that there is some resistance to what is going on,

1686
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 4: that people are just kind of being quiet, and maybe

1687
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 4: that being quiet because they are in the minority. So

1688
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 4: I decided not to talk about it because I thought, well,

1689
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 4: we'll see how it goes. I mean, people writing open

1690
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 4: letters is basically is the thing to do. It's the

1691
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 4: dujure thing, isn't it. And I'm grumpy I'm write an

1692
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 4: app and letter Anyway. Why I was not convinced by

1693
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 4: their argument is because it's it is largely made up

1694
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 4: of what we would in the old days have called

1695
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 4: low decile schools, which is the school that I went to.

1696
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 4: So I'm telling you that so that when I have

1697
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 4: a crack at the low decile school principles, you know

1698
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 4: that I'm beating up my own kind, right, I'm not

1699
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 4: punching down. So what the what the low decile school

1700
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 4: principles are arguing? Essentially, I'm an like nutshelling. What I

1701
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 4: read this morning was that they don't like first of all,

1702
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 4: they don't want to lose the flexibility. But the second

1703
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 4: thing is that it had worked really well for these

1704
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 4: kids because these kids have managed to achieve. Well, yeah,

1705
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 4: these kids in low desc our schools have managed to

1706
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 4: achieve because you lowered the standard. Mate, that's what happened.

1707
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 4: Like you went, oh, did you get a C before?

1708
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 4: Hold on, we've got a new system. It's called the Nceea.

1709
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 4: We're gonna give you what's equivalent to an a well

1710
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 4: done off you go go to university. And so they

1711
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 4: were like, it's making the kids in our skills the

1712
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 4: chief Well, that's not good for anybody. They can walk

1713
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 4: away with a certificate that says that they got whatever

1714
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 4: the stupid thing is that they got an NCEEA, but

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01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 4: it doesn't actually teach. That doesn't mean they know how

1716
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,839
Speaker 4: to read, and it doesn't mean they know how to write.

1717
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 4: So anyway, which they don't. Actually you'll find and they

1718
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 4: said that most were the low dec our schools most

1719
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 4: impacted by the changes. Yes, it will be, because it'll

1720
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 4: be because you guys who have to actually lift your

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Speaker 4: socks up and start teaching your kids properly anyway. So

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Speaker 4: on account of all of that, I decided to better

1723
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 4: not talk about it's get to get too I get

1724
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 4: too cross at principles of already vulnerable kids basically trying

1725
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 4: to like keep them down because that's too lazy to

1726
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 4: actually like just lift the standards. That's essentially where I

1727
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 4: think we're at with it. So you can see why

1728
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 4: I didn't want to talk about it. And now I

1729
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Speaker 4: have six twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's macro microbe or just plain economics, it's all

1731
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Speaker 1: on The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mas

1732
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,919
Speaker 1: for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions.

1733
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 4: K Sam Dickeye on why the luxury brands like Louis

1734
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 4: Verton and stuff is doing having a bit of a

1735
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 4: tough time. At the moment, I've got show biz news

1736
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 4: for you. Stand by that. That's the Allen theme. That's

1737
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 4: how long it's been. We've already forgotten. Allen is in

1738
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 4: some hot water again. There are allegations new allegations of bullying,

1739
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Speaker 4: even three years after her show was canceled. A former

1740
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 4: camera operator has spoken to The Daily Mail anonymously, and

1741
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Speaker 4: he's given us an interesting look at what the job

1742
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Speaker 4: was like behind the scenes. Apparently she fired eight stage

1743
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 4: managers in a single season, and then he revealed that

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Speaker 4: there was a celebrity that she banned from reappearing on

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Speaker 4: the show.

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Speaker 8: You really did?

1747
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,440
Speaker 2: I did because I wasn't concentrating.

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01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 18: Now I feel it was extremely guilty.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to.

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Speaker 3: Teach you at the same time, right, I know, But

1751
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 3: it's convenience of red papas.

1752
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Speaker 2: In a blow.

1753
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Speaker 4: Gordon Ramsey, if you're wondering, it was Gordon Ramsy, but

1754
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 4: it wasn't after that time when he cut himself on air.

1755
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 4: Apparently they did an unaired segment where her team brought

1756
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 4: him some rancid meat to cook and he took a

1757
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 4: bite and he said, this.

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Speaker 19: Is rubbish, but that's disgusting.

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Speaker 4: And Alan did not like that he said that, and

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Speaker 4: on account of that, she banned Gordon from ever coming back. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I reckon, that's a C grade story. What do you think?

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01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 4: I don't think that was. That wasn't our best show

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Speaker 4: show bus News.

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Speaker 2: Was it?

1765
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 4: But hey, look we can always do better, can't we?

1766
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 4: And we will tomorrow.

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01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:57,560
Speaker 15: News is next, everything from SMS to the big corporates,

1768
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 15: The Business Hour with Hither dops ands.

1769
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 2: For Trusted Home Insurance Solutions, News Dogs B.

1770
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 4: Is coming.

1771
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 2: Please don't go par.

1772
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 4: Kender Brady is going to be with us in ten minutes.

1773
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 4: And yeah, look, I'm wondering whether I should warn you

1774
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 4: now I'm gonna warn you. Okay, we're gonna talk about

1775
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 4: adrian Or in a minute. But I think this kind

1776
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 4: of may tie a bow around the thing. So this

1777
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 4: could be like the last installment, the last episodic episodic

1778
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 4: installment in the adrian Or saga that's dragged on too long,

1779
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 4: so stand by for that. Hither There are about four

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01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty high schools and secondary schools, which means,

1781
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 4: and this is apropos what's going on with Nikola willis

1782
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 4: which means actually that the eighty nine principles is a

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01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 4: big number because eighty nine out of about four hundred

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01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 4: and twenty odd is what like twenty one percent, So

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01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 4: it's one in five. That's a significant number of principles

1786
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 4: who don't like something. I mean, still not the majority,

1787
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 4: but big enough. Twenty four away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Heather du for see Allen So, luxury.

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Speaker 4: Brands and luxury spending as a category have been booming

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Speaker 4: for the last twenty five plus years. But Gucci, Chanel,

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01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 4: Louis Vuitton brands like that, they've pushed product prices coming

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01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 4: out of COVID, and that's really starting to come home

1793
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 4: to roost now. Apparently Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds is

1794
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 4: with us to explain a Sam Good isn't here, okay,

1795
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 4: so give us a little bit of context about what's

1796
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 4: been going on here with a luxury sector.

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Speaker 28: It's a it's been a home run for the past

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Speaker 28: sort of twenty five years. So luxury as a sector

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Speaker 28: has grown sort of twice as fast as global retail sales,

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Speaker 28: and companies like kind of Hermes, Ferrari, Louis Verton.

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01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: And mont Clear.

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Speaker 28: They're up sort of ten twenty thirty fold over the

1803
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 28: past twenty five years. Miles more than the stock market,

1804
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 28: and the customer base is inherently significantly more resilient than

1805
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 28: the average consumer. So the other thing is when you

1806
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 28: think about the motor around these companies. You and I

1807
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 28: have talked about brand motes before, being tough heather through

1808
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 28: the lens of companies like Nike.

1809
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: They these companies have been.

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Speaker 28: Around for you know, in Ume's case, sort of one

1811
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 28: hundred and eighty seven years sort of, and they're steeped

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Speaker 28: in hand crafted quality. They they have long waiting lists,

1813
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 28: they're some of the most recognizable brands on earth, so

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01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 28: they really do have sort of wide motes around their businesses.

1815
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 28: And the final thing is, in this kind of ultra

1816
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 28: fast moving world, as an investor, you want to know

1817
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 28: what a company's going to look like in ten years,

1818
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 28: and most people couldn't tell you what the average tech

1819
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 28: company will look like in ten years.

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01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 2: They might look.

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Speaker 28: Completely different or they might be non existent. But in

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01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 28: fifty years from now, wealthy consumers will still want scarce,

1823
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 28: ultra high quality, handcrafted leave the handbags.

1824
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 4: So how hard did these guys drive the prices during

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01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 4: and after COVID?

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Speaker 2: Very hard?

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Speaker 28: They really did gouge, so they kind of had the

1828
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 28: perfect storm conditions to gouge. So there was boutique closures,

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01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 28: There was tons of liquidity given low interest rates and

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Speaker 28: luxury by the way, like art is a bit of

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01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 28: a kind of a liquidity proxy. Even there's lots of

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01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 28: cash flowing around, people will buy art, people buy handbags.

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Speaker 28: There was the prevailing general inflation which they had behind,

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01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 28: and of course is the limited supply, which is like

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01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 28: pricing power on steroids for these guys. So the Chanel

1836
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 28: classic sort of jumbo flat bag. I don't know much

1837
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 28: about these bags, by the way, I do know the companies.

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01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 28: So they jump from sort of less than six thousand

1839
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 28: dollars in twenty nineteen to well over eleven thousand dollars

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01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 28: and twenty twenty five, so they sort of doubled in

1841
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 28: six years. So classic channel were really gouging. Multiple price

1842
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 28: rises per year became the norm. Like Louis Vuitton raised

1843
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 28: prices three times and seven months at one stage. Normally

1844
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,559
Speaker 28: they raised prices once a year, So they really did

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01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 28: gouge their customers.

1846
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 4: Now what's happening as a result, what's going on with

1847
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 4: the revenue now?

1848
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 28: Yeah, so that this gouging or overruning is coming home

1849
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 28: to roost, like you said, and so that they're facing

1850
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Speaker 28: their sort of harshest reality checks since the two thousand

1851
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 28: and eight financial crisis. So the luxury market is sort

1852
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 28: of shrinking about nine percent right now. But companies like

1853
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 28: sort of Curring, which owns multiple brands, but Gucci the

1854
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 28: most recognizable, they've been shrinking by as much as twenty percent,

1855
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 28: especially in China. Because China has been a very small

1856
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 28: part of the luxury market way back pre GFC. They're

1857
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 28: now a huge part of the luxury market. And the

1858
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 28: China luxury buying is really quite sentiment driven, quite liquidity driven,

1859
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 28: and the all important property market in China has been

1860
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 28: a horror show for the last couple of years, which

1861
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 28: drives consumer sentiment. So we are already seeing these guys going

1862
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 28: through their winter of discontent.

1863
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Chicken's coming home to roost. What does it

1864
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,440
Speaker 4: mean to investors?

1865
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 2: Well, this is a strong market.

1866
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 28: Nothing's changed as a strong market that the customer base

1867
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 28: is very resilient, and these brands, you know, especially someone

1868
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 28: like as one hundred and eighty seven years old, is

1869
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 28: among the most recognizable in the world. But it's just

1870
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 28: a reminder that when you gouge your customer. The chickens

1871
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,560
Speaker 28: really do come home to roost. So we'll have to

1872
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 28: see how this plays out for the next quarter or two.

1873
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 28: But right now they're deep in the winter of discontent.

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01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fascinating stuff. Sam, Thanks for talking us through it, mate,

1875
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 4: And you know, go and brush up on your handbags,

1876
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 4: because I feel like there are people in your life

1877
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 4: who would appreciate that that. Sam Dickey Fisher Funds nineteen away.

1878
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 2: From seven Heather duplicy Llen.

1879
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 4: Right, So here's the update on the Adrian or resignation that,

1880
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 4: as I said, as a saga that's dragged on way

1881
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 4: too long.

1882
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 2: Now.

1883
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 4: Now, yesterday, do you remember, Jane told us that she'd

1884
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 4: gotten her hot little hands, she'd got the ombudsman's ruling

1885
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,600
Speaker 4: that had forced the Reserve Bank to come clean on

1886
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 4: the timeline, We've got the timeline. Actually, the timeline tells

1887
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 4: us a lot more than we knew before. So this

1888
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 4: is what happened. There was a meeting with Nikola and

1889
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 4: Neil and Adrian and Christian and that happened on February twenty.

1890
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 4: And then there was the meeting, the fateful meeting with

1891
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 4: Treasury where they took the minutes, which Neil didn't like.

1892
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 4: And that was four days later, on February twenty four.

1893
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 4: What we did not know until now is that on

1894
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:58,919
Speaker 4: February twenty seven, three days after that second meeting, Adrian

1895
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 4: or stood down temporarily as governor. He had to stay

1896
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 4: out of the office. Christian took over as the acting

1897
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 4: governor on that day, and Neil wrote to Adrian about it.

1898
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 4: He wrote on behalf of the non executive members of

1899
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 4: the board outlining a series of concerns, noted the apparent

1900
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 4: lack of trust between Adrian and the board, and Nikola

1901
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,600
Speaker 4: and Treasury voiced his concern about the tenor of the

1902
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 4: dialogue at the meetings. Remember how we thought that he'd

1903
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,759
Speaker 4: sworn at the meetings and they told us he hadn't sworn.

1904
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 4: While obviously the tenor of the dialogue was a thing though,

1905
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 4: wasn't it. Anyway, that was February twenty seven. So between

1906
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 4: February twenty seven, he's out of the office and Christian

1907
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 4: is in charge, and he's not coming into the office

1908
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 4: and he stood down and he's got the letter basically, well,

1909
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 4: I would say that sounds like a bloody warning letter,

1910
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 4: doesn't it to you anyway then March three, which I'm

1911
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 4: guessing is what like? Was it a leap here this year? No,

1912
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 4: it wasn't, says four days later, March three, Adrian. Adrian

1913
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 4: writes back and rejects the assertions in the letter, but

1914
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 4: agrees that a lack of trust between the parties. They

1915
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 4: then have it, and it wasn't March the third, the Monday.

1916
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 4: I think March the third was the Monday, wasn't it

1917
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 4: when Nikola Willis had previously dated her? Anyway, I'm getting

1918
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 4: in the weeds the end of mine. Don't worry about it.

1919
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 4: Don't worry about it. But that's when she remember when

1920
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 4: she had she had already they wrote, they'd already written

1921
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 4: his bye bye press release on March the third, they

1922
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 4: dad chats and what not, sorted it out. Two days later,

1923
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 4: Adrian resigns. The press release goes out with the wrong date.

1924
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 4: The Boar degrees to withdraw the letter it sent Adrian

1925
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:35,440
Speaker 4: on February twenty seven. God, Jessey, didn't it now? It's Jersey.

1926
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 4: Now we know what's really going on here, don't we.

1927
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 4: He was behaving like such a fill in the blank

1928
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 4: that he had to go out that he was kept

1929
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 4: out of the office for it and he had to

1930
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 4: go in, or maybe he chose to stay out of

1931
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 4: the office and Christian had to be in charge. But anyway,

1932
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 4: the thing is what this brings us to is when

1933
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 4: Neil was asked why did Adrian quit? Was the right

1934
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 4: answer not? Actually, well, Adrian because we had a couple

1935
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 4: of meetings and he busts nut in them and I

1936
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 4: sent him a warning letter and he had to stay

1937
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Speaker 4: out of the office. And then after all of that

1938
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Speaker 4: we agreed that he would quit and I'd withdraw the letter.

1939
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 4: That's why he quit, because he's been behaving badly. Wasn't

1940
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 4: that actually the right answer instead of answering the question

1941
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 4: with a it was a personal decision. Once again, Neil

1942
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 4: Quigley was fitting sixteen away from seven.

1943
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Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1944
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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather dupic Ellen and Mes for

1945
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Trusted Home Insurance Solutions News talks'd be.

1946
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Speaker 4: And Brady UK corresponds with us. Now, Hey, Enda, hey Heather,

1947
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Speaker 4: how are you? Yeah, I'm good. Nigel Farage is having

1948
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 4: a good time, isn't he?

1949
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Speaker 3: Yes?

1950
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Speaker 14: He is so.

1951
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Speaker 22: All week long he's been talking about deportations and removing

1952
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 22: six hundred thousand illegal migrants from the UK if he

1953
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 22: becomes Prime minister. Today the d Ward is on the

1954
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 22: front pages. But it's a defection from the Conservatives. A

1955
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:03,719
Speaker 22: Scottish member of Parliament called Graham Simpson. He has announced

1956
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 22: that he will no longer be with the Conservatives and

1957
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 22: he is joining Reform UK. So we're seeing this constant

1958
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:14,839
Speaker 22: drip of defections. Basically for Ash building up his forces,

1959
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 22: gaining more traction. He's riding high in the polls twenty

1960
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 22: six percent now, Labor and Starmer are on twenty, Conservatives

1961
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 22: way behind on fifteen. It's all there for Forage. But

1962
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 22: you know we're four years out from the election. That's

1963
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 22: a long time to maintain momentum.

1964
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 4: Now what's this Chip's reason for wanting to join Reform?

1965
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 4: What's it for him?

1966
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Speaker 22: Well, knowing politicians as I do and as you do,

1967
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 22: I would say self interest and self preservation. I think

1968
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 22: a lot of people in Scotland will be looking at

1969
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 22: the polling of the Conservative Party. You know, as much

1970
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 22: as the SMP aren't doing brilliantly and Labor aren't, the

1971
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,600
Speaker 22: Conservatives are fading away and I think there is a

1972
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 22: danger for them that north of the border as well,

1973
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 22: reforms start picking up some of their seats.

1974
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 4: Okay, now, what is going on with the French government.

1975
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Speaker 22: Inda, they're going to fall next week. If we believe

1976
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:10,600
Speaker 22: all of the analysis coming out of France, all of

1977
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 22: the political pundits believe that time is up for Francois Beyroux.

1978
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,799
Speaker 22: He is going to be another short lived French Prime minister.

1979
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 22: Macron has a huge crisis coming his way, so Beiru

1980
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 22: called a confidence vote. It will happen in the next

1981
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 22: ten to twelve days and he's not going to win it.

1982
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 22: So the left wingers have said they won't support him.

1983
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 22: The hard right have said categorically, we're not supporting you.

1984
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 22: We want a national election again. I actually covered the

1985
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 22: previous election. It only seems like yesterday I was in

1986
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 22: Paris and there was lots of optimism with this guy

1987
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 22: coming in. It's all over. Francois Beroux will fall. And

1988
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 22: the real issue is the economic situation facing France. They're

1989
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 22: running a GDP deficit of somewhere in the region of

1990
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 22: five point eight percent this year, and the national debt

1991
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 22: is touching getting on for five and a half trillion

1992
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 22: and z.

1993
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Speaker 4: Dollars yees and it's messive stuff, isn't it?

1994
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Speaker 6: Now?

1995
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 4: Does chep who won the Chase and then die? Do

1996
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 4: we know why? He died?

1997
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 22: Long standing illness his family have said, which he didn't

1998
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 22: want to tell the producers of The Chase about because

1999
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 22: he was very worried that, you know that they might

2000
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 22: say we can't have you on the show. He was

2001
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 22: a huge, huge fan of The Chase, as a lot

2002
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 22: of us are. I watch it as often as I can,

2003
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 22: and I think it's a brilliant show. Beating the Chaser

2004
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 22: does not happen that often. Tim McCarthy, however, sixty four

2005
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 22: years old, a head teacher from the Greater Manchester area.

2006
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 22: He went on the show and he beat the Chaser

2007
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 22: with one second to go and nobody knew this. His

2008
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 22: wife knew it, and his children knew it. And then, sadly,

2009
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:54,879
Speaker 22: between filming and the episode being screened on British TV yesterday,

2010
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 22: Tim passed away. So his wife invited all their family

2011
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 22: and ends to the local pub in Tildesley in Greater Manchester,

2012
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 22: a pub called the Colliers, and they sat down at

2013
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,679
Speaker 22: five o'clock yesterday evening to watch The Chase with everyone

2014
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 22: else not knowing what happened, and I reckon, you could

2015
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 22: have lifted the roof off that pub with the chair

2016
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 22: when Tim won and he walked away with one hundred

2017
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 22: thousand dollars.

2018
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 4: Good is it?

2019
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 14: Hey?

2020
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 4: How far in advance of an airing do they film it?

2021
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 22: So I asked this question yesterday. They actually filmed that

2022
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:30,640
Speaker 22: episode October of last year and it wasn't broadcast. He

2023
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,759
Speaker 22: passed away in July and it was not broadcast until yesterday.

2024
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 22: So there are months and months and months in advance.

2025
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,600
Speaker 4: Jays, Hey, Inda, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

2026
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Speaker 4: Into Brady, UK correspondent. There is another political just back

2027
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 4: home here, another political poll that's out there. It's the

2028
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 4: Talbot Mills Pole for August. It basically confirms everything that

2029
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 4: It basically is much the same as everything we've seen

2030
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 4: up to now. Labour's on thirty four percent, up one.

2031
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 4: National hasn't changed. They're thirty two, so Labor store beats National.

2032
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 4: The Green Pad has come back slightly now sitting on

2033
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 4: eleven percent. New Zealand First has gone up because they

2034
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 4: are on a rip at the moment, A gone up

2035
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:05,879
Speaker 4: two percentage points now sitting on nine and a half

2036
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 4: actors on eight. Steady Mary Party has gone up a

2037
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 4: little bit, sitting on four point four percent wrong track,

2038
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 4: right track, still major problem for the government. Fifty percent

2039
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,719
Speaker 4: of the country reckons we're on the wrong track, thirty

2040
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 4: seven percent reckon we're on the right track, and the

2041
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 4: remaining thirteen percent are unsure. We're too scared to say.

2042
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 4: Nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Tip. See allan Drive full show podcast

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01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by news dog Zebbi.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

2046
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 4: I've been meaning to read you this text from Jace.

2047
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 4: Jason sent me a couple of texts today. Actually they've

2048
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 4: both been bangers. Here that it's Jase from Queenstown. Here again.

2049
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 4: I'm going to be fifty one next week and I

2050
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 4: am most definitely in the prime of my life. I

2051
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 4: am more fit than I've ever been, and I'm in

2052
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 4: the best part of my career I've ever been.

2053
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 6: A year.

2054
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 4: It just keeps getting better. My life is now. I

2055
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 4: think that means like, as in my life, the best

2056
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 4: part of my life is now. And we were talking

2057
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 4: about this before. We all agree on the in this team,

2058
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 4: the best part of your life now, the prime time

2059
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 4: is basically what you want it to be, isn't it?

2060
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 4: And then you could keep finding all some things to

2061
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 4: keep making that prime time last whatever whatever it is.

2062
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 4: I feel like my prime. I feel like will I

2063
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 4: will still be in my prime when I am retired,

2064
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 4: because I've got so many things I'm going to do

2065
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 4: when I'm retired. I've got a list of things that

2066
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 4: I need to get through. It's boring. You'll look at

2067
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 4: it and you'll go, geez, you need a life. But

2068
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 4: to me it brings me joy. You know, things like

2069
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 4: going back to university. I know, see going back to

2070
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 4: university it's studying another I know, I know what a

2071
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 4: loser anyway, listen. Chris Luxen has admitted that running a

2072
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 4: country is in fact harder than running a business.

2073
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 2: Who knew.

2074
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 4: He did an interview with the MBR and he was

2075
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 4: asked whether it was more or less stressful to be

2076
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 4: a prime minister.

2077
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 2: A lot more. Yeah, there's a lot more to it.

2078
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,599
Speaker 29: That's it's quite different running a country than a company, obviously,

2079
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 29: but there are things that are consistent.

2080
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 6: Now.

2081
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 4: It's obviously more stressful because there is us numpties to consider.

2082
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:55,600
Speaker 4: He can't just do the things he wants to. I

2083
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 4: don't know what he wants to do. I don't know

2084
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:58,759
Speaker 4: what he wants to do. That's part of the problem.

2085
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 4: But he can't just do the things he wants to

2086
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 4: do because he has to consider what we want him

2087
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 4: to do. Anyway, the things that are that are pretty

2088
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 4: much the same.

2089
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 29: And a lot of that is about team building, about

2090
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 29: putting the right ministers on the right assignments with clarity

2091
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 29: about what I'm expecting them to deliver, supporting them, but

2092
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 29: also holding them to account.

2093
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 4: And I'm really proud of what we've done management. So

2094
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 4: management is the same. So when we set when we

2095
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 4: called him prime manager, bang on, bang on, what have

2096
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 4: you got?

2097
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 2: Ends?

2098
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 30: What's my name? By Snoop Dogg to play us outside?

2099
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:29,719
Speaker 4: How good would that news?

2100
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2101
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 30: And are very very good news. And to tell you what,

2102
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 30: you're going to have to get your act together as well.

2103
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 30: Snoop Dogg is going to be playing at the dew

2104
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,759
Speaker 30: Drop Event Center in Marnoco in Auckland in like a month,

2105
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 30: September the twentieth. So yeah, the sales start on stop it,

2106
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 30: yes see. Yeah, I'm looking at the Herald story and

2107
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 30: it says September twentieth, twenty twenty five, So.

2108
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 4: I'm not going anywhere. We're not going to Wellington now,

2109
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 4: cancel that.

2110
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 30: Yeah, sales start at six pm on September the first

2111
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 30: go to the event. Find it at co dot Nz.

2112
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 4: I've been invited to a birthday party that night. Cancel that.

2113
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,719
Speaker 30: Of your apologies to the person, good news your president.

2114
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 30: It's a ticket to Snoop Dogg.

2115
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 4: Is he skinned or something?

2116
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 30: I mean, let's not look at gift as in the mouth.

2117
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 4: But is he skip?

2118
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: Why are you doing?

2119
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 4: Why are you announcing you're doing a concert in like

2120
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 4: three weeks time? What's up?

2121
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 30: Was the promoter worry that we would have another the

2122
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,719
Speaker 30: weekend situation, and so they waited until it was definitely

2123
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 30: going to have something.

2124
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 4: Funny going on here? Is that there's something funny going on?

2125
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 4: And also like who does a considant? Do you drop vants?

2126
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 30: I think he's played there before, isn't it?

2127
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 6: No?

2128
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 4: He played up?

2129
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 2: But not sure.

2130
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 4: Last time I was there, I was having a grizzle

2131
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 4: fizzzle type tizzle.

2132
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 30: I've been some stuff at do you drop events?

2133
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 6: Here?

2134
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 4: It's very nice, but oh god, we're got to go

2135
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 4: hod on. I'm writting it on my hand like an

2136
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 4: old person. The snoop. We're gonna go to that the

2137
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:47,679
Speaker 4: the perimenopausal women are going to snoop dog watch out

2138
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,600
Speaker 4: do you drop events Center, were coming to see you

2139
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 4: tomorrow and.

2140
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 31: That wild because don't you filmed the king my blank

2141
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 31: pusal swe I'm a long him legit now more for

2142
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 31: wrongs with the dog pound right behind me, and you're

2143
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 31: rolling up with my best and for your make bind

2144
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 31: me ringing that bringing that cheek thing she wrote, the

2145
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:11,600
Speaker 31: cheek with the biggest sack in old sack, he is

2146
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 31: I and I am him slim with the tilting brun

2147
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 31: what's your name?

2148
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 8: Go?

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