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Speaker 4: And a very very good morning, and welcome along to
Speaker 4: the Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with me Peak wolf Camp,
Speaker 4: the Resident Builder, and we are going to talk all
Speaker 4: things building and construction and maintenance and extensions and legislation
Speaker 4: and product selection, and possibly we could even talk about tools.
Speaker 4: That's a fairly essential part of any sort of DIY
Speaker 4: or building project. And in fact, I had a very
Speaker 4: just briefly, I had a very happy moment yesterday where
Speaker 4: actually it wasn't actually that happy. At the beginning. I
Speaker 4: was trying to get some jobs done, and I had
Speaker 4: fabricated up a piece of bullnos essentially, so you know,
Speaker 4: timber stairs, right, typically are rounded over at the front
Speaker 4: of a sort of convental older style timber stair. And
Speaker 4: I've been working on with a couple of guys replacing
Speaker 4: the decking on a verandah at the back of the
Speaker 4: house and so where it links into the stairs that
Speaker 4: go down. I thought, well, instead of just having the
Speaker 4: decking board extending over the riser, I'll make up a
Speaker 4: piece of bullnose so to look like the rest of
Speaker 4: the fronts of the treads. And so I made this up,
Speaker 4: and I had to send it through the saw and
Speaker 4: effectively cut a tongue onto a piece of timber so
Speaker 4: that it would fit into the groove of the tongue
Speaker 4: groove decking right, And I'd made all of that, and
Speaker 4: I thought it fitted okay, and I tested a piece,
Speaker 4: and then when I went to put it in yesterday,
Speaker 4: it was just slightly oversized, like half a millimeter or
Speaker 4: something like that. Anyway, it was very frustrating, and I
Speaker 4: was starting to get a bit annoyed with myself, and
Speaker 4: I thought, now, I've got to take a couple of
Speaker 4: millimeters off this tongue. But if I send it through
Speaker 4: the saw, it'll wobble. If I try and set up
Speaker 4: a router table, it's going to take me ages. And
Speaker 4: so I thought, hang on, I've got an old rebaiting plane.
Speaker 4: And if you know what a rebating plane is, you'll
Speaker 4: know exactly what I mean. It's a old well, there's
Speaker 4: a variety of the mine is an old metal one.
Speaker 4: When I say old, I reckon it's probably about seventy
Speaker 4: maybe eighty years old. And I fossicked around in one
Speaker 4: of the toolboxes where I keep my old tools, grabbed it,
Speaker 4: set it up, took a mill and a half or
Speaker 4: a mill off the side of this little tongue that
Speaker 4: i'd rebated, spot primed it, popped it in, worked a treat,
Speaker 4: and I thought that, you know, so old tools like that.
Speaker 4: I've kept it for donkeys years and i'd probably use
Speaker 4: it je I might not even use it once a year.
Speaker 4: But I had it and it worked, and it's old,
Speaker 4: and I felt absolutely fantastic about it. So anyway, I'll
Speaker 4: tell you a bit more about that little project. So
Speaker 4: tell me about your project. Tell me what's happening at
Speaker 4: your place. Are you renovating, are you extending? Are you
Speaker 4: thinking about working with contractors? Are you confused about changes
Speaker 4: to the legislation. Speaking of the legislation last week, it
Speaker 4: was delight to have it was really good to have
Speaker 4: Chris Pink available to just talk about a couple of
Speaker 4: things that are changing around, in particular the bcas the
Speaker 4: building consent authorities and the processing of that. A little
Speaker 4: bit of discussion around maybe some further powers for the
Speaker 4: building Standards or the Building Standards, the Licensed Building Practitioners
Speaker 4: Disciplinary Board to deal with contractors that don't perform well.
Speaker 4: There's a whole host of new legislation and I did
Speaker 4: say to the Minister at the time, look if I
Speaker 4: feel there's more to discuss, and he made the offer
Speaker 4: of coming into the studio to take calls from you
Speaker 4: if you've got any specific building legislation questions, and so
Speaker 4: we can lock in that date the eleventh of May,
Speaker 4: Chris Pink, the Minister for Building in Construction, will join
Speaker 4: me here in the studio for an hour. We can talk,
Speaker 4: you can ask questions. Should be really good session that's
Speaker 4: coming up coming up in a couple of weeks time.
Speaker 4: But right now it's your opportunity. So if you have
Speaker 4: a project that's underway, or a project that you're thinking
Speaker 4: about starting, or a project that well to be blunt,
Speaker 4: the wheels have fallen off a little bit like my
Speaker 4: moment yesterday where you just go, you know, do I
Speaker 4: hit it with a bigger hammer and just smack it
Speaker 4: and hope that it fits in? Or by doing that,
Speaker 4: do I risk you know, split in the tongue or
Speaker 4: spell the groove or denting the nose. And you just go,
Speaker 4: take a breath, take a step back, think about a solution,
Speaker 4: execute the solution, put it together. Job done. Oh, eight
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Give
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Speaker 4: wish to make a few comments, all things building, and Construction.
Speaker 4: A very good morning and welcome along to the resident
Speaker 4: builder on Sunday and Kate, A very good morning to you.
Speaker 4: Good morning, hey there, how are you doing?
Speaker 5: Why are you?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 7: Well, come to the end of my new build project.
Speaker 7: I haven't probably remember speaking to me P. Four, But look,
Speaker 7: I had good builders on site. I think they did
Speaker 7: a good job. We did five failed inspectors, but we
Speaker 7: got there in the end and we're sort of at
Speaker 7: practical completion. And in order to get my insurance, I
Speaker 7: have to have a final inspection, yes, which and now
Speaker 7: I now need help with because I need help preparing
Speaker 7: the documents that the LBP who was supervising was never
Speaker 7: there and he's the business owner and he's now refusing
Speaker 7: to come to the final inspection, so I'm left doing
Speaker 7: it on my own. He won't he won't even talk
Speaker 7: to me, and he won't answer my emails, so I
Speaker 7: think he sort of moved on. But you know, people
Speaker 7: on site were fine, but he's been quite difficult. So
Speaker 7: I've got to prepare for this final inspection. I called
Speaker 7: the council and they gave me a list and they said,
Speaker 7: your LBP should be there because we're going to ask questions,
Speaker 7: and if he is not there and you can't answer,
Speaker 7: it's going to fail.
Speaker 4: So I am worried Pete understandably, and I'm disappointed to
Speaker 4: hear that that's the attitude that they can. I just
Speaker 4: run through a couple of quick questions. So the nature
Speaker 4: of the build. Was it a full contract fixed price?
Speaker 4: Was a labor only charge up? What was the how
Speaker 4: did you run the contract?
Speaker 7: It was an NZCB contract six price. But I got
Speaker 7: a kit set and they supplied that some of the
Speaker 7: materials up to the substore and then the kit set
Speaker 7: came in and they assembled the kit set and they
Speaker 7: had subcontractors they had. I did ask for particular contractors
Speaker 7: and they said no, no, you must use eyes, so
Speaker 7: I said the User Grouping Association. And then they insisted
Speaker 7: on using THEIRS for the rest. But in the fixed price,
Speaker 7: he forgot to include the most of the electricians, the
Speaker 7: plumbing fit off and the drainage was at the last
Speaker 7: minute given to me. So you know, the price changed
Speaker 7: and I queried it, and then I also queried some
Speaker 7: changes that he brought in for the PC sums because
Speaker 7: he reduced some dramatically. Is to make it look as
Speaker 7: if I owed nothing, and then he sort of walked
Speaker 7: away and left me to do all the project management
Speaker 7: and get some other jobs that he just took away.
Speaker 7: So I've I had to go to school on doing
Speaker 7: all that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, we didn't want to talk to me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: to be fair is a little bit disappointing obviously, and
Speaker 4: particularly like you know, if there was something in the
Speaker 4: contract that said, because of the nature of the contract
Speaker 4: and the fact that you've managed some of it yourself,
Speaker 4: you know, I won't be there at the final inspection.
Speaker 4: So okay, So in terms of preparing for the final inspection,
Speaker 4: you may actually not need an enormous amount of documentation
Speaker 4: at this stage. That's typically the application for a code
Speaker 4: compliance certificate right so CCC, and at that time you
Speaker 4: will need to have because ultimately this is a little
Speaker 4: bit of a challenging thing with cccs, the responsibility because
Speaker 4: the consent, the building consent will be in your name,
Speaker 4: so the responsibility to lodge a CCC is also your responsibility. Now,
Speaker 4: in many cases clients or homeowners get their builder, their
Speaker 4: main contractor to do the work because they're familiar with it,
Speaker 4: or it happens within the sort of administration of the business, right,
Speaker 4: So I think what might happen is that you will
Speaker 4: book a final inspection. The inspector will come out. You know,
Speaker 4: I know that there's a lot of talk at the
Speaker 4: moment about from building inspectors as in council building inspectors
Speaker 4: going look, this is the failure rate for inspections. To
Speaker 4: be fair, I've never expected, and this might not sound
Speaker 4: that great, I've never really expected to pass a final
Speaker 4: inspection on the first run. Right, Typically there'll always be
Speaker 4: something that the inspector picks up, whether it's a vacuum
Speaker 4: breaker on an outside tap, or a bit of missing
Speaker 4: selant around a corner of a vanity that the tiler
Speaker 4: missed out, or something like that. So as long as
Speaker 4: they're relatively minor, it's not that unexpected, in which case
Speaker 4: your book of final inspection you'll be there. The inspector
Speaker 4: will go through the house the unless you you with
Speaker 4: a list, so not a notice to fix, just a
Speaker 4: final checklist, right, that will give you an idea of
Speaker 4: what it is that you have to get done. Now,
Speaker 4: if some of those tasks are tasked that your main
Speaker 4: contractor should have done, you can ring the main contractor
Speaker 4: or send them the email, because it'll come to you
Speaker 4: as an email, send that on and just go. I'd
Speaker 4: like you to come and attend to these items please,
Speaker 4: and if you need to contact the drain layer of
Speaker 4: the plumber or something like that, you can do that.
Speaker 4: So then I think it's not unreasonable to ask the
Speaker 4: main contractor, even if they're not talking to you at
Speaker 4: the moment, that it's their responsibility to come back and
Speaker 4: sort that out. Once those things have been done, you
Speaker 4: can book a recheck hopefully everything gets ticked off, at
Speaker 4: which time you can then go ahead and do the
Speaker 4: application for a CCC. I think if there doesn't seem
Speaker 4: to be any reasonable grounds for the contractor not to engage,
Speaker 4: I think that they're actually in breach of their responsibilities
Speaker 4: under I was going to say the new Code of
Speaker 4: Ethics for Licensed Building Practitioners, it's actually not that new now.
Speaker 4: It was issued in October twenty twenty two. Seemingly some
Speaker 4: lbps are not aware of their responsibilities. They've never read it,
Speaker 4: they've never taken the time, and I think that you
Speaker 4: could remind them, and the fact that your contractor is
Speaker 4: a member of Certified Builders New Zealand. You know, if
Speaker 4: you feel you're not getting good response, then potentially you
Speaker 4: could go to them and just go, look, this is
Speaker 4: the nature of my dealings with one of your members
Speaker 4: and asked them to maybe give him a call and
Speaker 4: have a quick word in his ear.
Speaker 7: Well, I did that and set aside buildings are quite good.
Speaker 7: Good and yeah, and they did get the dialogue going
Speaker 7: again by email. It has dropped off because they forced
Speaker 7: me to pay the final amount which I was holding that.
Speaker 7: It wasn't much paid, it was under seven thousand dollars.
Speaker 7: I just better hold something so that they, you know,
Speaker 7: want to help me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when more.
Speaker 7: They just said, oh, well, we want an unrestricted access
Speaker 7: and we might have to c back building, you know,
Speaker 7: all these things. It's quite threatening. So I paid off everything,
Speaker 7: even though I feel that I don't really owe it.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it depends a little bit on the
Speaker 4: nature of the contract. So if, for example, in the
Speaker 4: contract and in the payment schedule you said final final
Speaker 4: payment will be made on basically passing the final inspection,
Speaker 4: which is not unreasonable, then you could hold back money
Speaker 4: because they haven't done that. But if that's not in
Speaker 4: the contract, then yeah, holding back money. It's tricky.
Speaker 8: Territory.
Speaker 7: Well I didn't hold back money.
Speaker 4: No good on you, okay, And then again you would
Speaker 4: like to think then that if you didn't hold back money,
Speaker 4: that your contractor would then step forward and continue to
Speaker 4: engage with you and come and do the I mean
Speaker 4: you know, final inspection. You're absolutely right. It's much easier
Speaker 4: and it's hopefully got a better chance of success if
Speaker 4: the contractor is there, right, have a look at We're
Speaker 4: going to move on, but have a look at the
Speaker 4: Just go to the LBP website, have a look at
Speaker 4: the Code of Ethics potentially, if you're not getting some
Speaker 4: engagement from the contractor, remind them of their responsibilities under
Speaker 4: the Code of Ethics, and then go ahead and book
Speaker 4: the final inspection regardless even if you don't. If you
Speaker 4: feel the work is done, go ahead book that, get
Speaker 4: that underway, and then let the contractor know, Hey, these
Speaker 4: things are not complete or haven't passed inspection. Obviously your
Speaker 4: work's not finished. Please let me know when you can
Speaker 4: be here, get these things done, and then maybe next
Speaker 4: call that you and I have might be around how
Speaker 4: to prepare for the Code of Compliance inspection. Lovely to
Speaker 4: hear from you. Hope it goes well, and please let
Speaker 4: us know how you get on. Oh eight hundred eighty
Speaker 4: ten eighty is then number to call. It's twenty two
Speaker 4: minutes after six. We'll talk to Dave after the break.
Speaker 1: Doing up the house storting the guard and asked Pete
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Speaker 1: OH eight ten eighty Newstalgs'd be At the.
Speaker 4: Beginning of the show. I mentioned something I was doing
Speaker 4: yesterday where I just needed to take a sliver of
Speaker 4: timber off the side of a tongue that I machined
Speaker 4: onto a piece of sill board basically, and I hadn't
Speaker 4: got my tolerances right, so I needed to take a
Speaker 4: mill off and I used I don't know where I
Speaker 4: even got it from, but I had this old what
Speaker 4: i'd call a rebate plane, and I've done it actually
Speaker 4: just out of curiosity, did a quick search for it
Speaker 4: and it turned up on the Vintage tool Shop website
Speaker 4: from Australia and in one one six' three Vintage. Karter
Speaker 4: because it's got that stamped on the, Side australia number
Speaker 4: seventy eight Duplex rebate Rabbit plane eighty five. Bucks i'll
Speaker 4: hang on to.
Speaker 9: It for.
Speaker 10: That.
Speaker 4: Thanks i'm not going to sell it for eighty five.
Speaker 9: Bucks it's.
Speaker 4: Great ACTUALLY i used another old tool too THAT i
Speaker 4: had two guys give me a hand this, week two
Speaker 4: builders that worked for a made of, mine and SO
Speaker 4: i was the lackey on this. PROJECT i just made
Speaker 4: sure that they could just get stuck in and do the.
Speaker 4: Work you, Know i'll tell you about that tool a
Speaker 4: little bit later on this. Morning right, here let's get into. It,
Speaker 4: dave good, Morning good.
Speaker 11: Morning how were?
Speaker 4: Youting, So i'm very, well thank you and yourself?
Speaker 11: Good, yeah not too. Bad, Now i've got a forty
Speaker 11: five year old. Home now the, Thing i've got wooden
Speaker 11: stairs that come up to the front. Door, now the
Speaker 11: Problem i'm having is it's so it's got a block,
Speaker 11: based brick and tile. Roof nothing wrong, home but the
Speaker 11: driveway is dropping right at the end has dropped about
Speaker 11: ten millimeters the driveway and at the front door or
Speaker 11: near the front of the house is dropped around twenty. Millimeters,
Speaker 11: now the white dropped is because it is a. Driveway
Speaker 11: so in the last five years and just in the
Speaker 11: last few, months they've built a retaining wall there where
Speaker 11: my driveway.
Speaker 9: Is and.
Speaker 11: New houses have been built, right so new was right next.
Speaker 11: Door so, Sorry they've built the retaining, wall So i'll
Speaker 11: get there putting the drain flow and all the drainage
Speaker 11: in that. Properly so what's happened is they've drained the
Speaker 11: waters draining from my. Driveway that makes my driveway sink.
Speaker 11: Down and now what's happened is that the stairs to
Speaker 11: my front door has, moved so they move like twenty.
Speaker 11: Millimeters so on the like the the rail that goes
Speaker 11: up to my front, door it's like you can put
Speaker 11: your fingers through. It so it's like a one centimeter.
Speaker 11: Gap you can see the nails on the railing and
Speaker 11: on the platform the nails have popped up like probably five.
Speaker 11: Millimeters you, know they're like twisted a. Bit they popped up.
Speaker 11: There AND i mentioned the company THAT i got to
Speaker 11: have looked at it or.
Speaker 4: Not, no it's not probably, really that's.
Speaker 10: RIGHT i.
Speaker 11: GOT i got five different, quotes Oh cray five five,
Speaker 11: quotes probably two or three of. Them they were more
Speaker 11: like fence guys. Fencing, Yes so they they quoted me
Speaker 11: on doing. It and the prices were that they were
Speaker 11: quite like they were like double of one price that
Speaker 11: there were quite quite a big difference, Anyway and, ANYWAY
Speaker 11: i wasn't happy with it because no one could actually tell,
Speaker 11: me you, know how they could actually fix this. Problem
Speaker 11: and what what from WHAT i? KNOW i, MEAN i
Speaker 11: just get ninety nine percent for school steam would?
Speaker 4: Work just just tell, Me dave The so the stairs are?
Speaker 4: Timber are they open? Treads closed? Treads so is it
Speaker 4: like a the tread that you stand on as a
Speaker 4: single piece of wood with a solid riser then another
Speaker 4: tread than a riser or is, it you, know a
Speaker 4: couple of stringers with the treads and then an open.
Speaker 4: Riser what type of steeds are?
Speaker 11: They i'm, sultan it would BE i would say the
Speaker 11: almost be at least fifty millimeters, thick, yeah.
Speaker 4: Okay and the steers there's how many? Steps about five or?
Speaker 11: Six?
Speaker 4: Okay the?
Speaker 11: Platform the platforms like a meter square that it goes
Speaker 11: up to the glass front.
Speaker 4: Door, yeah and the platform has stayed level or has
Speaker 4: that dropped as? Well the?
Speaker 11: Platform, yeah it is slightly, twisted, sure.
Speaker 4: Slightly and how is the? Platform how are the platform
Speaker 4: and the stairs attached to the?
Speaker 12: Driveway, well there is a couple of posts on the you,
Speaker 12: know there is a there is a couple of. Posts they,
Speaker 12: are but it has moved because the driveways drop down
Speaker 12: that twenty.
Speaker 11: Millimeters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sure i'm wondering whether part of the solution might be,
Speaker 4: that you, know like you could pull the stairs off
Speaker 4: and rebuild them to the new, level because having a
Speaker 4: twenty mile difference and a step is actually a bit
Speaker 4: of a trip. Hazard or potentially you could remove the
Speaker 4: fixings from the ground so if it's on a, post
Speaker 4: it might have a bolt or a couple of nails
Speaker 4: through it and cut through, those adjust the treads a little.
Speaker 4: Bit and it's sort of one of those THINGS i
Speaker 4: often talk about, it especially with old, houses that you
Speaker 4: sort of have to humor, things right that we know
Speaker 4: that nothing will be perfect with old, houses so you adjust,
Speaker 4: them finess, them massage it a little, bit and you
Speaker 4: get a reasonable. Solution and that's Why i'm. Wondering if
Speaker 4: the stairs are still, sound even if the ground has,
Speaker 4: dropped you might be able to pack the stair up
Speaker 4: just so it's not racking and, twisting and then put
Speaker 4: a connection between the ground level and the post to
Speaker 4: hold it in place and just make it. Good otherwise
Speaker 4: you're talking about a rebuild AND i suspect that any,
Speaker 4: movement AND i think you're right in identifying that it's
Speaker 4: probably moved as a result of the new, drainage that
Speaker 4: that will have subsided to a certain point and. Stop
Speaker 4: SO i don't think you'll get too much more movement
Speaker 4: on the driveway now that the work is being. Completed
Speaker 4: BUT i think it feels like it's sort, of you,
Speaker 4: know a little bit of a, massage a little bit of,
Speaker 4: finessing and you should be able to just adjust the,
Speaker 4: stairs but do be aware that you don't want significant
Speaker 4: differences between the steps because that often then becomes a trip.
Speaker 4: Hazard so good luck with that, Project, dave And i'm
Speaker 4: sure you'll be able to find a contractor who'll come
Speaker 4: and do the. Work it is six point thirty two
Speaker 4: here at News Talk SET. Pep we'll talk To arthur
Speaker 4: straight after the.
Speaker 1: Break whether you're, petiss fixing The, feds or wondering how
Speaker 1: to fix that hole in the. Wall Give peter Wolf
Speaker 1: cap call on eighty the resident builder On News dogs'
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Speaker 4: Text regarding our first, Caller Actually kate talking about getting
Speaker 4: sign off final inspection on a relatively compact house that she's.
Speaker 4: Built seems ironic, now says the text To, andy seems
Speaker 4: ironic now that we'll be able to build a small
Speaker 4: house without a. Consent YET i want to build a
Speaker 4: thirty six square meter engineered garage as in the company
Speaker 4: will do the entire, job nothing special as far as
Speaker 4: setbacks or. Sidelines yet my local council want a minimum
Speaker 4: of fifteen hundred dollars for a. Consent she, Is, Andy,
Speaker 4: WELL i think that's exactly what The, ministry let's, say
Speaker 4: wants to circumvent. That you, know what is it that
Speaker 4: you get via fifteen hundred? BUCKS i guess what you
Speaker 4: do get is the surety around. It you know that
Speaker 4: potentially for a person looking to purchase the place in
Speaker 4: years to, come that they'll, Go, ah there's a building,
Speaker 4: consent there's a record of all of the, inspections there's
Speaker 4: a final, inspection there's A ccc attached to. IT i
Speaker 4: can be confident that the work was done according to
Speaker 4: the building. Code if we can build buildings without necessarily
Speaker 4: requiring a building, consent how do you actually know that
Speaker 4: they're built to the building? Code that'll be an interesting.
Speaker 4: One we might mention that when we're talking to The
Speaker 4: Minister Chris penk when he joins us in the studio
Speaker 4: in a couple of weeks Time, arthur very good morning to.
Speaker 8: You, heah good, Morning. Peter Hey. PETER i wonder how
Speaker 8: many how much radio time is lost with people saying
Speaker 8: how are you.
Speaker 13: Of?
Speaker 8: That every.
Speaker 4: MORNING i think it's a worthwhile, investment to be. Fair
Speaker 4: it is the glue that binds us our civility and
Speaker 4: our social. Contracts so there you, go, Right.
Speaker 8: Peter i've got a question about a company that does
Speaker 8: underpinning of buildings and. Housing you see them advertise ON
Speaker 8: tv quite a bit yip by the injecting some sort
Speaker 8: of expansion. Compound, yes So i'm my question for this
Speaker 8: is to do with a house and. Underpinning have you
Speaker 8: had any experience of this company or of a company
Speaker 8: using this type of, system and whether it's worked well, enough.
Speaker 4: Yes well or?
Speaker 6: Not?
Speaker 4: Sure SO i think you're probably talking about Main, mark
Speaker 4: AND i haven't used them, myself BUT i know of
Speaker 4: a first hand experience of a couple of people who. Have,
Speaker 4: so for, example someone who had a two story brick
Speaker 4: and Tile it had a single garage on the ground
Speaker 4: floor and the corner of that which was the corner
Speaker 4: of the building was, slumping and so they came, Along
Speaker 4: they set, up they injected the expanding eurothane foam basically
Speaker 4: underneath the core owner of the. Building they continued to
Speaker 4: inject until the building started to, rise and when it
Speaker 4: got to the right height they stopped and it. Worked
Speaker 4: AND i know of one other contractor who's had it
Speaker 4: done as. Well, Certainly i'm aware that it comes at a,
Speaker 4: premium but from the people That i've spoken, with it
Speaker 4: does seem to.
Speaker 8: Work, YEAH i THINK i think the premium that is
Speaker 8: the ability to do that, well at least from WHAT i,
Speaker 8: see the ability to do that without having to get
Speaker 8: diggers and mechanically underpinning a, building which in many, cases
Speaker 8: either due to access or, whatever would be very, tricky
Speaker 8: whereas the system seems like it's a good.
Speaker 4: Solution and then cod WHERE i got to as, well
Speaker 4: that you kind of go, Okay so, yes that is you,
Speaker 4: know it comes with the price. Tag what's my? Alternative
Speaker 4: and you, know for this one That i'm familiar, with
Speaker 4: you a two story building with a concrete slab that's
Speaker 4: slumped in one. Corner you, know how AM i going.
Speaker 9: To jack it? Up you?
Speaker 4: Know doing obviously you need to get in you'd need
Speaker 4: to get, excavators you'd need to get underneath it and
Speaker 4: then use jacks to lift the. Building then you've got
Speaker 4: to then pump concrete in there to underpin it and
Speaker 4: all the rest of. It, now maybe it's not suitable
Speaker 4: for every single, site BUT i have had a fairly
Speaker 4: lengthy discussion with one of their technical people some years
Speaker 4: ago because there was a project THAT i was looking
Speaker 4: at that had significant slumping in one. Corner and it
Speaker 4: was slightly complex because you could see that the building
Speaker 4: was slumping because it was adjacent to a retaining wall
Speaker 4: that wasn't particularly, firm which was on top of a
Speaker 4: slope and so. On so you, KNOW i wondered, whether,
Speaker 4: gosh you, know how much foam will we? Need and
Speaker 4: they that's where it gets challenging for, them as they
Speaker 4: kind of, go, well we know when we've lifted the,
Speaker 4: building but we don't always know what the ground conditions,
Speaker 4: are and so we don't really know how much foam
Speaker 4: and how much foam we, use as foam is probably
Speaker 4: not the right word how much material we, use and
Speaker 4: we'll know when we've done the, job when the building's
Speaker 4: back where you want it to be, Right.
Speaker 8: But in two instances at least that you've had knowledge,
Speaker 8: of it has been. Successful, yes. Right associated, question which
Speaker 8: is as An english system of waterproofing basement areas or
Speaker 8: WHEN i say basements areas that are built into the. Ground,
Speaker 8: yep And i'm talking here sort of sixties. Construction we're
Speaker 8: rather than trying to dig away from the wall and
Speaker 8: do the, standard put a membrane on the outside and
Speaker 8: go through all of, that which would be very costly
Speaker 8: and messy and. Difficult that there's An english. SYSTEM a
Speaker 8: North shore company does it where they put a very
Speaker 8: heavy membrane on the. Inside it's it's almost a plastic
Speaker 8: thing with drains and all sorts of, stuff so they
Speaker 8: are attacking the problem from the. Inside you, KNOW i
Speaker 8: don't want to give the name of that company or
Speaker 8: are you familiar with a system like, That.
Speaker 4: Yes BECAUSE i wonder whether we might be talking about
Speaker 4: the same, Person but for courtesy's, sake we'll leave their
Speaker 4: name out of.
Speaker 13: It so.
Speaker 4: There's a couple of different. Systems And i've certainly seen
Speaker 4: if you watch you, Know Grand designs or any of
Speaker 4: These english home renovation, Shows i've seen that where it's
Speaker 4: effectively an entire membrane that goes on the front with
Speaker 4: it's sort of accepting the fact that you'll never stop
Speaker 4: the water coming, through so let's control it and direct it.
Speaker 4: Away there are other systems where you can use a
Speaker 4: crystalline solution which penetrates through the masonry seeking out, water
Speaker 4: and when it encounters, water the crystals expand and block
Speaker 4: off the. Pathway so that's something Like cemex crystal proof
Speaker 4: that might be a solution as. Well there are these other.
Speaker 4: Systems then there is another one That i'm aware of
Speaker 4: BUT i don't know too much about it, yet that
Speaker 4: a guy THAT i met at a building survey as
Speaker 4: conference was telling me about the other. Day SO i
Speaker 4: think there are solutions out, there and that's all accepting
Speaker 4: the fact that we know that the best solution is
Speaker 4: not to let moisture into the building by doing the
Speaker 4: moisture barrier on the. Exterior but if that's not, practical
Speaker 4: then controlling it on the inside. Work so, YES i
Speaker 4: am aware of those systems as, well.
Speaker 8: And that particular one where they're doing it from the,
Speaker 8: inside not the crystal, line but using a very thick
Speaker 8: membrane and then as you, say directing it. Outside have
Speaker 8: you actually come across that or.
Speaker 4: TIME i haven't seen it, Myself, no So i'm quite.
Speaker 4: Keen you, know if someone was doing, It i'd be
Speaker 4: quite happy to go out and have a.
Speaker 8: Look, yeah, okay thank you lovely to.
Speaker 4: Talk, Actually i'll tell you What arthur just st down the,
Speaker 4: Line and if you could Let, isaia my, producer know
Speaker 4: the name of the, company that would be really, helpful
Speaker 4: if you don't. MIND i, am after, all a fairly curious.
Speaker 4: Person it is six forty three here At News TALK, Cp,
Speaker 4: Folks i've gone down the rabbit. Hole SO i started
Speaker 4: off by talking about this rebate plane THAT i dragged
Speaker 4: out yesterday and used successfully to solve a particular. Problem
Speaker 4: THEN i THOUGHT i should really check the, name you
Speaker 4: know what the appropriate name. Is Then i've ended up
Speaker 4: on a vintage tool, website and Now i'm. Off i'm
Speaker 4: looking at all this stuff, that you, know beautifully, prepared
Speaker 4: beautiful old rebate, planes router. Planes do you remember? Those from?
Speaker 4: WOODWORK i certainly. Do woodwork class about nineteen seventy eight
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy nine with Mister buckton having to make what
Speaker 4: looked like a little sailing, ship and we had to
Speaker 4: do a rebate and we use the rebate. Plane don't
Speaker 4: know whether it was a marble or a record, one
Speaker 4: but we certainly use them in the woodwork. Class don't
Speaker 4: have one of, those don't know THAT i need? One
Speaker 4: might not stop me buying one sixteen minutes away from seven.
Speaker 4: O'clock we'll talk To doug straight after the. Break squeaky
Speaker 4: door or squeaky.
Speaker 1: Floor get the right advice From Peter, wolfcare the resident
Speaker 1: builder on us TALKS mb just a quick.
Speaker 4: Explanation someone sticks, Through Hey, pete why can some people
Speaker 4: not mention company? Names but you can when you feel like.
Speaker 4: It there's a smart ass response to, that Which i'll restrain.
Speaker 4: From but, look one of the Things i'm conscious of
Speaker 4: is if people ring and have a particular dispute with a.
Speaker 4: Company Now i'm not involved with that. DISPUTE i don't
Speaker 4: know all of the, details SO i tend to err
Speaker 4: on the side of caution and, say it's probably best
Speaker 4: that you don't mention that company because what you say
Speaker 4: might be, liabeleists or it might not be the entire,
Speaker 4: truth or there's more to the. Story we know that
Speaker 4: that's the, nature that's human. Nature isn't. It so IF
Speaker 4: i mentioned, companies it's because either they're well, known like
Speaker 4: our previous conversation Main, mark we know that they advertise ON,
Speaker 4: tv et. Cetera so it's not really a. Secret And
Speaker 4: i'm also in that situation where If i've encountered people
Speaker 4: and i've And i've really enjoyed the experience with, them
Speaker 4: Or i've used their products AND i know, them then,
Speaker 4: yeah why WOULDN'T i talk about? Them BUT i do
Speaker 4: want to be cautious ABOUT i suppose being fair and,
Speaker 4: equitable and so in some Cases i'll say to, people,
Speaker 4: know there's no need to mention the company in a
Speaker 4: fair ENOUGH i, Think oh eight hundred and eighty ten
Speaker 4: eighty is that number to Call? Doug how you? Doing?
Speaker 9: See how's?
Speaker 14: Yourself very?
Speaker 9: Well?
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah?
Speaker 4: Joinery, yeah talking about your, router you would HAVE.
Speaker 14: I wouldn't join, you wouldn't?
Speaker 10: You?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah?
Speaker 4: Absolutely well this was SO i got a bit of sill,
Speaker 4: board you know how on an old villa window at
Speaker 4: the bottom of the across on the, inside you'll often
Speaker 4: have about a forty mili high board with a concave
Speaker 4: surface or convex surface on, it which is the sill,
Speaker 4: board and THEN i got some of that which was
Speaker 4: treated AND i made a tongue on the back of
Speaker 4: it which lined up to the groove on the tongue
Speaker 4: groove decking THAT i was, using and so fitted that
Speaker 4: in so to make, it, OBVIOUSLY i ran it through
Speaker 4: the table saw a couple of, times made the. Tongue
Speaker 4: thought that the tongue was just the right, size like
Speaker 4: a nice snug, fit but WHEN i actually came to fit,
Speaker 4: it it was just like half a millimeter over. Size
Speaker 4: AND i, thought IF i smack it with a big,
Speaker 4: Hammer i'm probably just going to ruin, it Or i'm
Speaker 4: going to split the either side of the groove and
Speaker 4: Then i'll have to replace the. Board SO i needed
Speaker 4: just to take a fraction off, that AND i thought
Speaker 4: by the TIME i set the table saw up again
Speaker 4: and all the rest of. It and so that's WHERE
Speaker 4: i grabbed my little rebate plane and that worked. Well,
Speaker 4: anyway what's your?
Speaker 14: Job, yeah, well, yeah Like i've got timber joining in the.
Speaker 14: Seventies so you can just picture a six pane glass
Speaker 14: opening windows on each. Side that's the ones with the
Speaker 14: two opening windows above each. Other, yes so you got
Speaker 14: the opening window at the bottom open window at the.
Speaker 4: Top, yeah with friction stays on the, side, yes those little, yeah.
Speaker 14: Yeah so and then so betwe in between the windows
Speaker 14: of the big, pane you've got a million but that
Speaker 14: goes up and then it's then there's another one on
Speaker 14: each side of the of the big. Windows you've got
Speaker 14: a gap get from between the timbers. There SO i
Speaker 14: think it's split or not, split but it's just let go.
Speaker 14: On their rain's been getting. In i've repaired the actual
Speaker 14: bottom part of the main, window the fixed. Window i've
Speaker 14: repaired that. Before but, yeah the other Day i've just
Speaker 14: dugged out from the outside of the, building dug it.
Speaker 14: OUT i, mean of course it's rotten all the way
Speaker 14: along that panel the. Wind it's only up about probably
Speaker 14: say fifteen fifteen twenty mills. Up it's all rotten. There
Speaker 14: the top where the fixed paint is putting on is quite.
Speaker 14: Sound so, Yes i've doug dug all the the rotten
Speaker 14: that out right along the. Bottom so like, You, Yes
Speaker 14: i'm going To i'm going to put in a treated
Speaker 14: pine et de con timber itself as. Well i'm going
Speaker 14: to put a strip of that along and gluid in.
Speaker 14: Yep So i'm just wanting to know something like some some.
Speaker 14: Products so at the moment it's all, Open i've dug
Speaker 14: it well that it's all, open And i've sealed it
Speaker 14: off with.
Speaker 4: That the spray wood seiler oh, yes good, yep, great
Speaker 4: hard and hard in the.
Speaker 14: Fibers.
Speaker 4: Excellent.
Speaker 14: Yep i've just payed it, yesterday so it's twenty four
Speaker 14: hour things BEFORE i start getting right into it. Today so,
Speaker 14: YEAH i have been using on the other. Window it's
Speaker 14: just small. Repair they ate us to pack a posy.
Speaker 9: Glue.
Speaker 14: Yep i've actually glued the timber and the fat and
Speaker 14: then sort of just finished it off of the builders.
Speaker 10: Bog.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes.
Speaker 9: Is that the creek the?
Speaker 14: Two, YEAH i think, So.
Speaker 4: And there's a couple of them around so there's actually
Speaker 4: the one that's sitting on my shelf happens to be
Speaker 4: A crc. One that's only because that's what was available
Speaker 4: at my. Local so, yeah two pot of poxy's really good.
Speaker 4: Idea you've used some sort of timber preservative timber, hardener
Speaker 4: which is a great. Idea the patches obviously are going
Speaker 4: to be at least h three point two, treated so
Speaker 4: C c a treatment and then you can use builders.
Speaker 4: Bog there are a couple of other types as. Well
Speaker 4: you know that builders bog you can only use on beer.
Speaker 4: TIMBER a you can't use builders bog on timber that's being. Painted,
Speaker 4: okay that's.
Speaker 14: Cool there is waterproof as the epoxy as a waterproof.
Speaker 13: More.
Speaker 4: Yeah funnily, ENOUGH i was talking to my chippy THAT
Speaker 4: i know who put me onto another an epoxy, filler
Speaker 4: WHICH i use for the first. Time i've never used it,
Speaker 4: before and it actually what if you can be? Bothered
Speaker 4: have a look on My instagram. PAGE i now that
Speaker 4: the decking's been laid, DOWN i filled all of the
Speaker 4: screw holes we use those screws to AND i went
Speaker 4: and bought a box of five hundred, screws thinking that'll be.
Speaker 4: Enough BUT i WHEN i was doing the, CALCULATIONS i
Speaker 4: did it from memory AND i thought it's five, joys
Speaker 4: but it was. Seven so we ended up using about
Speaker 4: six hundred and seventy jolt screws right to fix the decking.
Speaker 4: Down so my job the other day was filling those
Speaker 4: six hundred and seventy sort of three millimeter nail or
Speaker 4: screw holes with this two pot epoxy filler and my
Speaker 4: job Today actually this Is i'm going to ask your
Speaker 4: permission for. This is it okay to use a sander
Speaker 4: on A? Sunday, yeah of, course, Excellent thank, you thank.
Speaker 4: You that makes me feel better, Anyway SO i suppose, yeah,
Speaker 4: perfect all, Right, no, No i'll go, home go to
Speaker 4: mass and Then i'll get stuck into. It, then SO
Speaker 4: i for your. Job THEN i think you can use
Speaker 4: the bog maybe you look for some a POxy filler as,
Speaker 4: well and then oil based primer oil based primer. First but,
Speaker 4: interesting if you're going to finish with a water born,
Speaker 4: enamel which is quite good for exterior, joinery do the
Speaker 4: oil based sealer oil based, primer and then go over
Speaker 4: the top with like quick, dry which is the water born.
Speaker 4: Primer but the bond between the two is really, good
Speaker 4: and then you can bring it up from. There, LOOK
Speaker 4: i think you've cracked, It. DOUG i think you're doing
Speaker 4: exactly the right. Thing this is when sharp chisels are your,
Speaker 4: friend right for fetching out the last of, that shaping
Speaker 4: up a piece of, timber putting it in with the,
Speaker 4: epoxy dressing it, off and then get straight in with
Speaker 4: the top coat and the other thing that this resonates
Speaker 4: with me about this conversation is we forget that paint
Speaker 4: is really important for protecting our. Joinery And i'm guilty
Speaker 4: of that Because i'm going around the house now scraping
Speaker 4: back loose paint trying to fix up a whole lot of. Things,
Speaker 4: Right but a really good intact paint coating protects the
Speaker 4: joinery and weather boards and, timber exterior trims and details and,
Speaker 4: that so that you've really got to stay on top
Speaker 4: of the of the. Painting it sounds like you. Will but, hey,
Speaker 4: LOOK i think you're onto, it AND i think if
Speaker 4: you get in the, zone this work is actually quite.
Speaker 4: Nice you know WHAT i?
Speaker 14: Mean, yeah it's not there he. Is, yes you know
Speaker 14: you can't so they get away from the sun on
Speaker 14: the sun.
Speaker 4: Boat yeah all, right it sounds like you're into. It
Speaker 4: enjoy your, Day, doug and really lovely chatting with. YOU i,
Speaker 4: well now That i've got his, permission BECAUSE i was slightly,
Speaker 4: conflicted to be, fair Because I've i've got all this
Speaker 4: filler and it's had twenty four hours to. HARDEN i
Speaker 4: know that there's some bad weather coming AND i don't
Speaker 4: all the good work that we've done over the last
Speaker 4: couple of. DAYS i don't want to ruin it by
Speaker 4: having water on the deck before it's, Painted So i'm
Speaker 4: going to sand. TODAY i know you're not my, neighbors
Speaker 4: But i'm kind of just telling you That i'm going
Speaker 4: to be making some noise around my, Place, rightio let's
Speaker 4: get back into it straight After New sport And. Weather
Speaker 4: top of The air at, seven.
Speaker 1: Helping you get THOSE diy projects done. Right The Resident
Speaker 1: builder With Vita wolfcats, Call oh eight eight you've talked.
Speaker 4: Radio lovely to be with you again on This sunday,
Speaker 4: morning thirteenth Of, April Palm sunday actually and a week
Speaker 4: away From easter next, weekend which will be lovely next.
Speaker 4: Weekend of Course i'll come and do the show On
Speaker 4: sunday and it'll be ad. Free there you, go that'll be, interesting.
Speaker 4: Right we are talking all things, building construction, tools, products, contractors,
Speaker 4: legislation building, consents building consent, fees code, compliance, certificates anything
Speaker 4: that's on your. Mind oh eight hundred and eighty ten
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to. CALL i happen to mention
Speaker 4: a little project THAT i was doing yesterday WHERE i
Speaker 4: needed to, WELL i need to just take a sliver
Speaker 4: of timber off a tongue THAT i created to go
Speaker 4: into the, rebate into the groove of a tongue in groove.
Speaker 4: Board blah blah. Blah and pulled out an old tool
Speaker 4: that sat in one of my toolboxes FOR i don't
Speaker 4: know how Long i've had it, for AND i really
Speaker 4: don't know how old it, is but it was an
Speaker 4: old rebate. PLANE i thought i'd better get the right.
Speaker 4: Name SO i found this website with all these vintage,
Speaker 4: tools And i'm, like, m MAYBE i need one of.
Speaker 4: Those MAYBE i need one of. THOSE i don't need
Speaker 4: any of, them of, course but having it and having
Speaker 4: the right tool for the right job makes a massive
Speaker 4: amount of. Difference so no. Regrets. There someone's text, Through,
Speaker 4: Hey i've got an old wolf. Drill, YES i like,
Speaker 4: that an old wolf drill that was my great grandfather's
Speaker 4: And i'm. FIFTY i think it dates back to the nineteen.
Speaker 4: Fifties takes about five seconds to stop when you take your,
Speaker 4: trigger your finger off the. TRIGGER i THINK i know those.
Speaker 4: Ones in, fact we might have had one in the
Speaker 4: workshop or something like that back in the. Day so
Speaker 4: it's an old power tool of course talking about sanding palm. Sander,
Speaker 4: No i'll be random. ORBITAL i think today to send
Speaker 4: off all the. Filler in, fact if you want to
Speaker 4: see a photover, that just check out My instagram page
Speaker 4: to just search resident builder On. Instagram AND i think
Speaker 4: the most recent PHOTO i put up was the deck
Speaker 4: with all of the. Filler that's What i've got to
Speaker 4: stand off. Today Then i'll get a coat of primer on.
Speaker 4: Today then i'll go Actually i'm going to go To
Speaker 4: razine later on, today pick up some top. Coat get
Speaker 4: that on before the weather hits On. Wednesday, john what
Speaker 4: it speaking about? Weather talk to me about your. Roof
Speaker 4: how are you?
Speaker 9: Doing? Yeah, Good opet listening to all those quite interesting
Speaker 9: issues that people had a.
Speaker 4: Little bit, more oh not at, all rusally.
Speaker 11: Great.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Look i've got a pretty big shed out in the.
Speaker 9: Back it's a half round about twenty five meters long or,
Speaker 9: so and it's had like a gin car garage, extension
Speaker 9: that's WHAT i call. It, anyway it's sloping sort of
Speaker 9: roof that joined on to the side of. It probably
Speaker 9: at construction it was built like that as possibly what
Speaker 9: was then the most cost effective way to create a big.
Speaker 9: Shed floor. Space so the ISSUE i have is where
Speaker 9: that where that sloping roof that joins the half, Round
Speaker 9: i've got about five or, six, yeah mucky little leaking
Speaker 9: spots that just sprout up every now and again when
Speaker 9: you get a reasonable amount of brain and blown it
Speaker 9: from the right. Way and you, know there's no WAY
Speaker 9: i can identify up on the top of the roof
Speaker 9: anything wrong with that where that join, is And i'm
Speaker 9: my plan really is and you know obviously THAT i
Speaker 9: guess water might be traveling a little, bit so wherever
Speaker 9: it's leaking inside is not exactly the right. Spot, yes, yes,
Speaker 9: yeah So i'm thinking Of i'm probably gonna have to
Speaker 9: get a bucket of maybe black. Whatever, yeah and and
Speaker 9: basically spatula on all the way along that, join just
Speaker 9: to be kind of absolutely Sure i'm certaining that OFTEN
Speaker 9: i thought i'd just give you a ball in case
Speaker 9: there's a you, know SOMETHING i should rather than just
Speaker 9: slapping her.
Speaker 13: On and.
Speaker 1: So the.
Speaker 4: First UP i have to, declare you, know WHEN i
Speaker 4: talk to people like yourself and they talk about sheds
Speaker 4: that are you, know ten meters, long twenty meters, LONG
Speaker 4: i do get a serious case of shed. Envy So
Speaker 4: i'll declare that first and then then we'll go on
Speaker 4: to talk About so when you say it's a half,
Speaker 4: round as it's a curved, surface so the sheets are
Speaker 4: curved over the tresses or over the rafters to do, that.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 4: What happens at the ridge OR i know there's no.
Speaker 4: Ridge what happens at the top? Curve how is that
Speaker 4: dressed off or the just the top sheet sort of
Speaker 4: extends right?
Speaker 9: Over, yeah, yeah, there there's it's quite you, know the
Speaker 9: leaks are ALL i suppose And i've bit a, bit you,
Speaker 9: know because of the shape of it actually been up
Speaker 9: on the top half on the on the, curve but
Speaker 9: the the leaks are all definitely right on the on
Speaker 9: the joint of the sloping. Part it's, yes sort, OF
Speaker 9: i mean that sloping parts about the same area as
Speaker 9: what the half round takes, up which is about it's
Speaker 9: got enough space to park ten cars in that extension
Speaker 9: that comes off the half. Round, yeah so it's you,
Speaker 9: know it's a sort of. Area but and it looks
Speaker 9: nice and it looks like it's been done Or i'm
Speaker 9: sure it has been done as professionally as it could
Speaker 9: have been at the.
Speaker 4: Time, yeah, sure THERE i wonder whether you take a
Speaker 4: step back and go rather than sort of attack a
Speaker 4: general area and the hope that you're going to find the.
Speaker 4: Leak what about if you can get someone to come
Speaker 4: over with a, hose and if you're able to direct
Speaker 4: water into the area where you think the leak's coming,
Speaker 4: from try and make it leak before you fix the, leak,
Speaker 4: Right and that'll give you a bit more of a targeted,
Speaker 4: approach because you're. Right what you might, find in, fact
Speaker 4: is the leak is two or three meters away from
Speaker 4: where you see it on the inside of the, building
Speaker 4: in which, case if you fix one area and then
Speaker 4: you might find that it's still. Leaks so given that
Speaker 4: we've got some dry weather at the, moment that might
Speaker 4: be a good. Idea you, know if there's an, overlap for,
Speaker 4: example then that should effectively self. Seal, Right so, water
Speaker 4: unless it's being driven in by the, wind typically won't
Speaker 4: track backwards that. Much so because the other CONCERN i
Speaker 4: have sometimes around sort of just willy nilly use of
Speaker 4: sealants and all the rest of it is you can
Speaker 4: create dams which prevent water draining. Out, so for, example
Speaker 4: if you were to seal the underside of your lap
Speaker 4: there and water was getting in somewhere else and draining out,
Speaker 4: there you've effectively created a. Dam and THEN i guess
Speaker 4: there's two. Approaches one is to use just roofing silicon
Speaker 4: to try and seal where you think there might be
Speaker 4: an opening or a. Gap the other one is to
Speaker 4: apply like a brush on membrane over an, area so
Speaker 4: maybe the sheet is getting a bit, thin or there's
Speaker 4: a little bit of rust or something like, that you'll
Speaker 4: be able to extend the. Life BUT i guess, too
Speaker 4: the other thing, is you, know given the age of
Speaker 4: the building and all the rest of, it are you
Speaker 4: just kind of holding off the, inevitable which is at
Speaker 4: some stage you're probably going to need to Reroof and
Speaker 4: a curved reroof is going to be a little bit,
Speaker 4: challenging isn't.
Speaker 9: It, Yeah, YEAH i think it's a good suggestion ABOUT
Speaker 9: i should have thought of. It running some water over
Speaker 9: certain areas that.
Speaker 4: Have, it go at that first and just kind of
Speaker 4: target the repair people are, saying, look you, know it
Speaker 4: might be the. Fixings so if it's a fixing that's come,
Speaker 4: loose is it timber pearlins that the iron is fixed,
Speaker 4: to or is it metal pearlins.
Speaker 8: On the half.
Speaker 9: Rounds it's on the half round it's metal purlms right
Speaker 9: and the, yeah and then it's timber on the.
Speaker 4: Extension on the extension see. Again you know in that
Speaker 4: case metal. Ones you might find that some of the
Speaker 4: fixings have started to come, loose in which case you
Speaker 4: need very. Carefully you need to get up on the,
Speaker 4: roof maybe take out some of those fixings and of
Speaker 4: course you'll have to screw new fixings, in but you
Speaker 4: might want to step.
Speaker 9: Up you.
Speaker 4: Know if it's let's say it was an eight gauge,
Speaker 4: screw you go to a ten gauge screw so it'll
Speaker 4: bind in with a knee pren washer underneath. It, yeah
Speaker 4: that sounds like it's a little bit of work to. Do,
Speaker 4: yeah but, LOOK i think have a look at trying
Speaker 4: to make it leak, first so you know exactly it's
Speaker 4: a big. Roof you don't want to be working in
Speaker 4: an area that's not. Effective have a crack at that.
Speaker 4: First good, luck AND i WILL i will go back
Speaker 4: to my three meter by six meter garage and think
Speaker 4: longingly of a large shed like. Yours. John thank you very, Much,
Speaker 4: David good morning to.
Speaker 11: You good.
Speaker 15: Morning how are?
Speaker 4: You, Hey i'm very, good thank, you and.
Speaker 8: You not too?
Speaker 11: Bad not too?
Speaker 4: Bad day?
Speaker 15: Here and then they.
Speaker 4: Beautiful go for.
Speaker 15: It i've got A i'm attaching a fold out washing
Speaker 15: lines to my. House, yes And i've drilled the the
Speaker 15: attachments brackets onto the. Wall WHEN i put one of them,
Speaker 15: in So i'm getting an engine masonry. Anchor one of
Speaker 15: them holds really, well but the other one basically the
Speaker 15: bolt is pulled straight out, Yep And i'm wondering whether
Speaker 15: the brick scott holes in, it and then.
Speaker 11: How DO i resolve?
Speaker 4: That, OKAY i think you got lucky with the first,
Speaker 4: one and what's happened with the second one is kind
Speaker 4: of WHAT i would. Expect SO i think for those,
Speaker 4: instances if you, CAN i would get you can buy
Speaker 4: a small tube a half tube of a product called bolt,
Speaker 4: fix which is it mixes in a tube and it's
Speaker 4: an adhesive for anchoring steel fixings into. Concrete SO i
Speaker 4: and then find either a bit of stainless steel threaded
Speaker 4: rod or possibly even a stainless steel bolt or something like,
Speaker 4: that take the old fixing, out maybe even drill the
Speaker 4: whole out slightly, bigger apply the bolt fix into there
Speaker 4: the adhesive and then bed in a bit of stainless
Speaker 4: steel threaded rod to the right depth with enough poking
Speaker 4: out to get the fixing and a nut on. It
Speaker 4: let that seat for a couple of hours and then
Speaker 4: hang it on, there and that will fill the void
Speaker 4: that's in the. Brick it'll give you a really solid,
Speaker 4: anchor and you'll find that that washing line will stay
Speaker 4: there basically.
Speaker 15: Forever and is there any how to get the masonry anchor?
Speaker 9: Out?
Speaker 4: Ah, okay is?
Speaker 10: It?
Speaker 4: Yes if? Often what you've got is you've got the
Speaker 4: bolt part of the anchor which is threaded at one
Speaker 4: end and then over that is a. Sleeve so if you,
Speaker 4: can if you, can just reach the sleeve with a
Speaker 4: pair of pliers and push the bolt back so that
Speaker 4: the where it spreads out at the bottom is what
Speaker 4: anchors the fixing in. Place, Right so you need to
Speaker 4: push that back as far as possible without losing, it
Speaker 4: and grab the sleeve and pull that. Forward, yeah all,
Speaker 4: right good luck with.
Speaker 14: That take.
Speaker 4: There Thanks, david you with these. Books he'd be we're
Speaker 4: talking all things building. Construction, trish good, morning.
Speaker 7: Good. Morning i'm ringing about cracks in the outside wall
Speaker 7: where the boards are. Joining my situation is THAT i
Speaker 7: had already built, house moved on to a beach side
Speaker 7: section about seven years, ago and within a short time
Speaker 7: the doors would, open just drift. Open SO i contracted the.
Speaker 7: Engineer he had a man come and check the, piles
Speaker 7: but he said they were all, right, Yep and but
Speaker 7: now there's.
Speaker 4: Cracks the exterior of the. Building what's the.
Speaker 9: Cladding, Yes, james hard is weather?
Speaker 4: Board, okay so like linear or something, SIMILAR.
Speaker 10: I don't.
Speaker 11: Know so it's it's.
Speaker 4: Weatherboard it's horizontal weatherboards laid lapping one over the. Other
Speaker 4: and that's the only type of cladding that they've used
Speaker 4: on the. Exterior. Okay and the gaps that you're talking
Speaker 4: about appear between the lap between the you, know effectively
Speaker 4: the bottom board and the one that laps over the.
Speaker 4: Top we let they, joined, yeah, Okay so it's not
Speaker 4: a weatherboard. Profile it's something where it's like a sheet
Speaker 4: that has a joining, system like a rebate or something like,
Speaker 4: that maybe tongue, group maybe just a ship. Lap and
Speaker 4: it is a vertical or horizontal, horizontal it's, horizontal but
Speaker 4: it's a sheet. Product, no, not what IF i worded it?
Speaker 7: Right it just says on the respects that It's, Hardy
Speaker 7: hardy with a Board frontier two four five Millimeter Hardy.
Speaker 4: Frontier, okay is it painted a dark? Color?
Speaker 7: No, no, No so my issue is is any moisture
Speaker 7: getting in?
Speaker 14: There WHICH i worry?
Speaker 7: About and what are you if you're selling?
Speaker 10: It do you declare all of?
Speaker 7: This and also the building company who's been very good
Speaker 7: now they're coming to talk to. Me see it's they're
Speaker 7: saying spill it was. Silicine but really have to get
Speaker 7: to know what the problem, is isn't it don't you?
Speaker 13: Think?
Speaker 4: YES i do think, so just repeat that is?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 4: James so it's definitely A hardy, product and it's A
Speaker 4: frontier FOUND i found it so effectively it is a
Speaker 4: weather board and it's got like a wood grain effect on. It,
Speaker 4: yeah that's. It and so when you say there's gaps
Speaker 4: between there is what you're seeing where perhaps there's been
Speaker 4: some movement and you can see where the boards have
Speaker 4: moved and it's an unpainted. Surface or are there gaps
Speaker 4: where you can see through and potentially see the building
Speaker 4: paper behind?
Speaker 10: It?
Speaker 9: No, no, no, okay dressed sick?
Speaker 8: Yet?
Speaker 7: Yeah and JUST i hold up a piece of string
Speaker 7: of that brown, string and it was about the similar
Speaker 7: depth of The.
Speaker 4: LOOK i think that the way the weather board works
Speaker 4: is there's obviously an, Overlap so there's part of the
Speaker 4: board that extends up and behind the overlap of the board.
Speaker 4: Above that's often around twenty, millimeters, Right so if there's
Speaker 4: a millimeter or a millimeter and a half of, movement
Speaker 4: it's not going to be impacting on the weather tightness
Speaker 4: of the. Building, yeah but you said that the product
Speaker 4: is is it applied vertically or is it a pride horizontally?
Speaker 9: Horizontal it is.
Speaker 4: Horizontal, okay that's all right. Now i'm just THINKING i
Speaker 4: SAW i won't go. There, LOOK i think that what
Speaker 4: you're getting is a certain amount of, movement which is
Speaker 4: probably is. Cosmetic i'm not actually a big fan of
Speaker 4: going along and sealing all of that up because you,
Speaker 4: know buildings, move, Right SO i think you're better off
Speaker 4: next time you go and paint, it just give it
Speaker 4: a really good coat of. Paint if you're worried about
Speaker 4: it from an esthetic point of, view if you know
Speaker 4: what the color, is you could go along and just
Speaker 4: touch up those. Areas from what you're telling, ME i
Speaker 4: don't think you've got any concerns about weather. Tightness it's
Speaker 4: a little bit of. Movement typically there's less movement with
Speaker 4: fiber cement than there might be with conventional weather boards
Speaker 4: because of the nature of the fiber. Cement but a
Speaker 4: little bit of movement in this, INSTANCE i wouldn't be terribly.
Speaker 4: Concerned Red all, RIGHT i love your. Program nice to
Speaker 4: talk with. You to take, Care, bobe all this to
Speaker 4: you right. Here we need to take a. Break it
Speaker 4: is twenty three minutes after. Seven if you'd like to join.
Speaker 4: Us the lines are. Open the number is eight hundred
Speaker 4: and eighty ten. EIGHTY a couple of good texts coming through.
Speaker 4: Too we'll talk about those in a moment as. Well
Speaker 4: lines are. Open love to hear from.
Speaker 1: You met it twice, gods but maybe Call pete first
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Speaker 4: gardening and the wonderful world of bugs as. Well quick
Speaker 4: couple of texts that have come. In pete does asbestos
Speaker 4: removal cost go to the, homeowner as in a pile
Speaker 4: in a, roof a tile roof of the, Sixties, DOUG
Speaker 4: i can't see who else would be responsible for. It
Speaker 4: if it's your house and you've got asbestos roof and
Speaker 4: you want to remove, it then, yes the cost is
Speaker 4: going to go to, you and it's not an inconsiderable cost.
Speaker 4: Too by the, Way, pete we're looking at a ten
Speaker 4: year old brick home with white efforescence showing on the
Speaker 4: red brown. Bricks is this a structural? Problem can it be?
Speaker 4: Removed the house is double. Glazed is ten year old
Speaker 4: double glazing reasonably? Effective? Still yes to that so, yeah
Speaker 4: ten year old double glazing will work almost as. Well
Speaker 4: so the only thing that might degrade with ten year
Speaker 4: old is the desiccond which absorbs moisture that might be
Speaker 4: in between the two panes of. Glass but apart from,
Speaker 4: that double glazing will continue to. Perform with regard to the,
Speaker 4: efforescence it's effectively salt that's in, masonry which with the
Speaker 4: presence of water might be drawn to the. Surface so
Speaker 4: it can be. Removed there's a couple of proprietary products
Speaker 4: that will get rid of, it and after a certain
Speaker 4: point it will ah sorry on you that one is.
Speaker 4: Coming excuse? Me so, yeah eff for. Estance yet you
Speaker 4: can remove it and, TYPICALLY i, mean it does indicate
Speaker 4: that there's some, moisture so you might want to you
Speaker 4: might want to investigate that a little bit, further but
Speaker 4: it's not. UNCOMMON a couple of people have commented on
Speaker 4: the main mark and the fact that it seems to
Speaker 4: have worked for, Them SO i can leave that as it. Is,
Speaker 4: Pete i'd like to restand our pine deck is it's
Speaker 4: starting to fade after five. Years can't remember if we
Speaker 4: used an oil based or a water based. Stain definitely
Speaker 4: not a penetrating oil. Based do we just redo it
Speaker 4: with a water based? Stain best bet would be to
Speaker 4: try and get a test, pot go to an inconspicuous
Speaker 4: area and apply your new coating over the existing one
Speaker 4: and just see whether or not it's, Compatible like does
Speaker 4: it sit on top and not dry properly or appear
Speaker 4: blotchy or something like. That if you apply it and
Speaker 4: it seems to soak, in then it's compatible with what
Speaker 4: you've got. There so what you don't want is incompatibility
Speaker 4: between those. Two someone else's. Text this is the joins.
Speaker 4: Issue those hardy plank weatherboards look like they're just buttered,
Speaker 4: together but they have a back soka at the end
Speaker 4: joints which is invisible except for a little piece of
Speaker 4: aluminium protruding at the bottom of each butt. Join that
Speaker 4: might be the, case but, again as long as they've
Speaker 4: put the back soca, on those weatherboards should remain weather.
Speaker 4: Tight thanks very much for the. Text. Simon good, Morning,
Speaker 4: oh good, Morning hey the are?
Speaker 10: You?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Good So i'm calling From northland and we are about
Speaker 10: together certificate of. Acceptance hopefully we're just an extension for
Speaker 10: another three months because we've got the, sept the tank
Speaker 10: and sanitary footings all signed, off got a big twenty
Speaker 10: tonsigger and do. That so we've kind of depleted our,
Speaker 10: FUNDS i. Bet and we've got to do the flashings
Speaker 10: on one of the roofs and gutters and down. Types
Speaker 10: And i'm wondering when they do, come are they interested
Speaker 10: in if we have a top hole and over the
Speaker 10: roof of one of our, anectors will they be asking
Speaker 10: us to require us to put the flashings on? Gutters
Speaker 10: and most, importantly where do dwnpipes come? Down is there
Speaker 10: any certain requirements that need the water to be taken
Speaker 10: certain distance away from the, house and, YEAH i think if.
Speaker 4: You're going for A, CoA so certificate of, acceptance obviously
Speaker 4: there's been some work that was done that should have
Speaker 4: had a building consent but didn't get, one or one
Speaker 4: wasn't signed, off and so.
Speaker 10: A few years.
Speaker 4: Ago, yeah, okay so now you're looking for a certificate
Speaker 4: of acceptance from. Council is council doing the investigation or
Speaker 4: if you employed a building surveyor to do this Council,
Speaker 4: Okay look in a, nutshell council will expect you to
Speaker 4: have finished the house to the code. Requirements, Right so
Speaker 4: if you don't have flashings where they're supposed to, be
Speaker 4: if you don't have your down pipes, connected so your
Speaker 4: storm water is not, complete all of these, things it'll
Speaker 4: just be you just need to get the house. Finished
Speaker 4: in a, nutshell so tarpolans indicate that things aren't. Finished
Speaker 4: if there's flashings missing and it's not quite weather, tight
Speaker 4: then you'll need to do. Those you'll need to have.
Speaker 4: Spouting spouting needs to be connected to the storm. Water
Speaker 4: stormwater needs to connect either to the public line or
Speaker 4: to your tanks or to whatever drainage. System so we
Speaker 4: can we.
Speaker 10: Can have them going off often the swales as soume
Speaker 10: because we've only, springwater so we don't need to actually har.
Speaker 4: Only if you've had that, Engineered, like how can you
Speaker 4: prove that it's going to. Work So i'm not saying
Speaker 4: that it won't, work but council will expect some sort
Speaker 4: of documentation to say this is an approved storm water control.
Speaker 4: System so whether that's onto the ground into a local,
Speaker 4: stream if it is going into a, stream do you
Speaker 4: have a catch pit to ensure that you're not depositing
Speaker 4: sediment into the, stream those sorts of. Things so in these,
Speaker 4: instances council will always be looking for proof of.
Speaker 10: Compliance, yeah we'll be feeding it into our orchard the
Speaker 10: water runoff from the roofs and swales that. Way BUT
Speaker 10: i wouldn't imagine they might ask for an, engineer but
Speaker 10: that's WHAT i do for a living in terms of garden.
Speaker 10: Landscaping i'm HOPING i can persuade them, otherwise but, yeah.
Speaker 4: They'll probably require some sort of.
Speaker 10: Proof, yeah while we've been, building we've put a container
Speaker 10: and clad it and put a roof over top of
Speaker 10: the container and a lean to on the side of.
Speaker 10: It so are tools under the dry and it's actually
Speaker 10: gone over our thirty square. Meters that's. Allowable, yes as
Speaker 10: a shipping. Container can we just sort of have a
Speaker 10: lean to off the side of it and use that
Speaker 10: as a Temporary, well it won't be. Temporary i'd like
Speaker 10: to keep, it, really is?
Speaker 4: It it's not, habitable is?
Speaker 10: It?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 10: No, no it's like an open sided lean too with
Speaker 10: workshop and the tools up and, yeah it's. Awesome it's
Speaker 10: also not. Transport, yeah the container could be lifted off
Speaker 10: with all that's cladding on, it and the lean to
Speaker 10: would just have to be cut. Away so That's i'm
Speaker 10: wondering if they're going to be picking us on that
Speaker 10: one as.
Speaker 4: Well, look technically they probably, could depending on. It if
Speaker 4: it exceeds site, coverage then they might pick you up on.
Speaker 4: That you, know if you've put a roof on, it
Speaker 4: then you're also collecting, Stormwater so what have you done
Speaker 4: about controlling stormwater and? Runoff, again that might relate to
Speaker 4: the size of the property.
Speaker 10: Ten, Acres, yeah, okay so.
Speaker 4: It's, look site coverage isn't going to be an issue
Speaker 4: on ten, acres is? It, No so that that's probably
Speaker 4: not going to be and it's not habitable and it
Speaker 4: is a workshop because it's, enclosed then it because you
Speaker 4: can build a forty square meter lean to or a
Speaker 4: car port right without necessarily requiring a building. Consent so
Speaker 4: you could kind of, argue, well it's just like a car.
Speaker 4: Port but, LOOK i think just concentrate on the main,
Speaker 4: house concentrate on THE. CoA if you've already engaged with,
Speaker 4: them there will be a scope of. Works so when
Speaker 4: the inspector comes, back just keep their focus on the
Speaker 4: scope of work that you've already decided and essentially guide
Speaker 4: them away from looking at a whole lot of other.
Speaker 4: Stuff is a wise. Move but it sounds like you've
Speaker 4: got that under. Control but good luck with. That it
Speaker 4: is quite the. Process and if you're listening and you're,
Speaker 4: wondering why go FOR? CoA increasingly And i'm involved in
Speaker 4: a couple of projects where things didn't get signed, off you,
Speaker 4: know the final, inspection a couple of things to, Folks,
Speaker 4: oh let's do that, later let's do that, later let's
Speaker 4: do that. Later ten years, later you're suddenly trying to
Speaker 4: get A ccc for a building consent reinspect. It, ideally
Speaker 4: just get it done at the. Time, seriously you won't regret.
Speaker 4: It oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to.
Speaker 4: Call quick call for, You Mary. Anne hello, There Hello.
Speaker 13: Peter i'm just, hello good. Morning i'm just springing about
Speaker 13: my Bee lux window in my. Bathroom mechanically it's, fine
Speaker 13: And i'm just. Wondering someone came and had to, look
Speaker 13: got up on the roofs and set. Outside it was,
Speaker 13: okay but they didn't look inside. Right And i've had
Speaker 13: a little leak over the, years just in one. Area
Speaker 13: and when you, look a friend came and had a
Speaker 13: look in the right hand. Top the painter's sort of.
Speaker 13: Lifting any thinks it's coming from up. There and WHEN
Speaker 13: i look up and you, know standing on the, FLOOR
Speaker 13: i can see a Little we're a bit of the seilance.
Speaker 16: Lifted who would do?
Speaker 13: That would it? Glazy you be the best to do?
Speaker 13: That or someone that deals with? Skylights H, LOOK.
Speaker 4: I would probably go for. Skylights if are you whereabouts
Speaker 4: to You Auckland Mount? Eden, okay if you go and
Speaker 4: do a Little google search for light works L I
Speaker 4: T E w R, x you'll end up talking To.
Speaker 4: Google google will has? Done IF i say, Thousands i'm
Speaker 4: probably underestimating it Skylights. Vluxes he's probably a really good
Speaker 4: person to talk, to so Try google at Light. Works
Speaker 4: he's got a couple of guys with. Them they'll come
Speaker 4: and sort that. Out vluxes. Themselves failure of The veluxes
Speaker 4: is quite. Rare it'll most likely be the flashings around, it,
Speaker 4: right so you could get a roofer to do. It
Speaker 4: but if, you LIKE i, say check out Light. Works
Speaker 4: he will ring me and give me a hard time
Speaker 4: for mentioning his, name BUT i know you'll be in safe,
Speaker 4: Hand so try Like, okay all the, best see, You.
Speaker 4: Maria we'll take short break and be back in just a.
Speaker 1: Moment doing of the house storting the, garden Asked pete
Speaker 1: for a. Hand the resident builder With peter wolfcaf call
Speaker 1: use dogsb.
Speaker 4: Oh here's an interesting text too quickly before we talk
Speaker 4: To Carl. Pete i've got a nineteen forties wooden ex.
Speaker 4: Statehouse most of the window flashings have rusted, badly some
Speaker 4: have rusted right. Through are they easy to? Replace CAN
Speaker 4: i do it? Myself From? Paul given the age of the,
Speaker 4: HOUSE i suspect that the head flashing essentially just runs
Speaker 4: over the face of the board and tucks up underneath
Speaker 4: the board above, Right so you just need to set
Speaker 4: up a little, platform get up, there pry that top
Speaker 4: board open a little bit so that you can remove the,
Speaker 4: fixings pull the flashing. Out chances are it won't be
Speaker 4: a standard. Size it might, be in which case some hardware,
Speaker 4: store particularly the older, ones will have lengths of. Flashing
Speaker 4: you can then buy a new piece of metal flashing
Speaker 4: slide that. Up you might have to trim it a
Speaker 4: little bit because depending on the upstand slide that in,
Speaker 4: place fold the ends down and replace. Them, so, yes it.
Speaker 4: Is they are repairable in that. Sense modern. Flashings if
Speaker 4: you're doing timber joiner and that sort of, thing the
Speaker 4: flashing goes back to the building wrap and it's often
Speaker 4: behind the. Cavity in order to replace those you're talking,
Speaker 4: about it is to be. Blunt it makes it just
Speaker 4: a pig of a job because you've literally got to
Speaker 4: pull apart you're cladding to get in. There, yeah so
Speaker 4: an old, House, yes it is achievable and, doable And
Speaker 4: i'm sure you could do it yourself right type for
Speaker 4: your Calls, carl good, Morning.
Speaker 11: Yeah good, MORNING i can go, ahead.
Speaker 13: Very.
Speaker 16: Good got a property In. Devonport it's one of those
Speaker 16: colonial nineteen twenty houses has got a. Porch it's not
Speaker 16: weatherproofed and so any weather that comes in from the,
Speaker 16: side it's leaking through underneath the. House just looking for
Speaker 16: the best product that's super, FLEXIBLE i can to proof
Speaker 16: the porch.
Speaker 4: So that porches is obviously. Clad is it? Clad and weather?
Speaker 4: Boards is it? Clad and batman boards.
Speaker 6: The?
Speaker 11: Porch?
Speaker 16: Oh, sorry so the porches are it's it's. Rude but
Speaker 16: when it's opened on two sides and the brawllboards are
Speaker 16: just butted up.
Speaker 4: Together, yep they're not sealed, right and they're not painted.
Speaker 16: Well as, painted but they move so much to the.
Speaker 4: Painters but typically those that decking, boards that tongue groove that's,
Speaker 4: down that'll be lower than the floor level and it
Speaker 4: should have some fall to the out. Side so even
Speaker 4: if word gets into the, grooves that should run. Out,
Speaker 4: no no it.
Speaker 16: Doesn't it's it's. Flat the porches are on, piles you,
Speaker 16: know it's a meter and a half up on a
Speaker 16: slope of. Property, yeah just whatever rain comes in through
Speaker 16: the open sides just sits there and then drips.
Speaker 4: Through but what's underneath, it what's dripping onto well what
Speaker 4: it used.
Speaker 16: To be the subsul underneath the, house but that's now
Speaker 16: all kind of sealed off and we're using it for.
Speaker 16: Storage SO i want to try and, okay come, through all,
Speaker 16: RIGHT i just want to with a proof a flexing. Floor,
Speaker 16: yeah but then it's going to be in. Theme so you,
Speaker 16: Know i'll put black beauty and on, down but it's
Speaker 16: not in, theme AND i don't know how to color
Speaker 16: that or if it comes in.
Speaker 4: Color, look you can get decking, paint you, know from,
Speaker 4: razine which will have a little bit of elasticity in,
Speaker 4: it and typically it doesn't need a lot to waterproof.
Speaker 4: It SO i wonder whether if you give the area
Speaker 4: a thorough clean spot prime any beer, areas and then
Speaker 4: maybe do two or three coats of paint over the,
Speaker 4: top that should be enough to stop most of the
Speaker 4: moisture getting. THROUGH i don't know. That i'd want to
Speaker 4: sort of suggest that you apply like a membrane over
Speaker 4: the top of. It it'll it'll look quite. Different given
Speaker 4: that you're in a heritage, house there might be some
Speaker 4: adhesion issues there as.
Speaker 16: Well that that would be the theory that previous owners have.
Speaker 16: Used that'd be like you have to do it every
Speaker 16: three years or something like.
Speaker 4: That, yeah that's, right you've got to stay on top
Speaker 4: of The, yeah but, look that's that's probably WHAT i
Speaker 4: would and look to be. Fair, Today i'm going to
Speaker 4: go home And i've just relayed tongue and groove decking
Speaker 4: on a veranda at the back of the. House i've
Speaker 4: got some stuff THAT i store underneath their kayak and but,
Speaker 4: supply wooden ladders and things like. That i've done a primer,
Speaker 4: Coat i've done a second primer. Coat i'll do hopefully
Speaker 4: get a top coat on it. Today first top, coat
Speaker 4: a couple of coats of, that And i've never had
Speaker 4: water getting through, it SO i think paint system will
Speaker 4: work for you in that. Instance, There good luck on that.
Speaker 4: One carl all the very. Best we'll talk To james
Speaker 4: after the.
Speaker 1: Break whether you're painting the, ceiling fixing with, fans or
Speaker 1: wondering how to fix that hole in the. Wall Give
Speaker 1: peter wolf cavicall on. Eight the resident builder On YOUTH Dogsb.
Speaker 4: Joining me today Is Alan simpkin from Arc Line architecture
Speaker 4: up In. Kaitaia decades of experience with triboard, Housing alan's
Speaker 4: been at the forefront of off site, construction, prefabrication modular
Speaker 4: and kit set. Housing deep knowledge of the product and
Speaker 4: its evolution over time makes them the perfect person to
Speaker 4: discuss How triboard is shaping the future of, efficient durable home.
Speaker 4: Building thanks for joining us this, Morning. Ellen now you've
Speaker 4: been involved for quite some time from its earliest. Days
Speaker 4: what were your first impressions of the? Product?
Speaker 5: Yeah how are you pet? It we've been involved with
Speaker 5: it since nineteen eighty nine that when it was first
Speaker 5: produced In Kai. Tire at that time there was mostly
Speaker 5: only wet framing available On New zealand wet pine, framing
Speaker 5: so we started using triboard faster the erect and crypt
Speaker 5: to close. In, yeah it's a great product AND i.
Speaker 4: Suppose it's innovative in terms of you, know our walls
Speaker 4: are tryboard now there's no not necessarily any, framing so
Speaker 4: it's just a. Triboard now you've used it in a
Speaker 4: number of projects from local housing through to exporting up
Speaker 4: to the. Islands what are in terms of getting stuff off?
Speaker 4: Shore what are the big challenges?
Speaker 5: There, yeah so we have used the special board That
Speaker 5: tribe developed for. It it was like an insect and
Speaker 5: a high moisture resistant. Board we also made the boards
Speaker 5: a smaller width where were sending them up to mostly
Speaker 5: two point four by one, meters so two guys up
Speaker 5: in The islands could erect them and, yeah it worked really.
Speaker 4: Well now you started your work in the construction sector
Speaker 4: as a chippy like, me then you've moved into the
Speaker 4: Design so from a designer's, perspective what makes triboard such
Speaker 4: a strong choice for modern housing? Projects, yeah a.
Speaker 5: Lot of In New zealand, especially there's a lot of
Speaker 5: move towards off site manufacturing pre. Tabrication we need to
Speaker 5: because the cost of labor is so high And triboard
Speaker 5: building shift really well like a strong. Box so they
Speaker 5: worked really well for the off, site modular and on
Speaker 5: site as.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now some of your recent, works some large scale
Speaker 4: housing developments Like, trust but also the Suites Aged. Care
Speaker 4: how's triboard helped with those. Products.
Speaker 5: Yeah so with the the swits Of Home run a
Speaker 5: lot of two twenty eight units and most of them
Speaker 5: are two. Story we're working with Panel, lock local. Company
Speaker 5: the large we're using the large panels and the whole
Speaker 5: top floors of these units are getting completely finished off
Speaker 5: site and then craned, on so the pretty well the
Speaker 5: data building contents, issued construction can start on the top.
Speaker 5: Floor so, yeah huge saving and time and money during.
Speaker 4: That and obviously along with the product there's there's advancement
Speaker 4: in THE c AND c technology and the improved panel.
Speaker 4: Design so how has triboard evolved since those early days
Speaker 4: and where do you see its biggest potential in the.
Speaker 5: Future, yeah so when we we're using, it we used
Speaker 5: to pretty well hand cut most of the user old hand. Rutter,
Speaker 5: yeah plans was now most of the all done with sands,
Speaker 5: seeds so always get down lights of pre cut into
Speaker 5: your ceilings and all your power boards all pre cut
Speaker 5: into the. Walls so again just using MODERN cad and
Speaker 5: sense seed technology to pre do as much as possible
Speaker 5: in the.
Speaker 9: Factory so it's just the.
Speaker 5: Spark you can just, pull pull whiles. Through so, yeah
Speaker 5: that's working really. Well it's a hang a lot faster
Speaker 5: than it used to.
Speaker 4: Be, absolutely now you've seen the industry grow and change
Speaker 4: over the. Years what advice would you give to builders
Speaker 4: and architects and designers who might be considering triboard for
Speaker 4: their next.
Speaker 5: Project, yeah it is speed and we've got local companies
Speaker 5: Like Dura, panel which are they're sending kit sets right
Speaker 5: Through New, zealand quite a few into The South, island and,
Speaker 5: yeah slap packed kit sets pretty well Like, Lego AND
Speaker 5: i think it is definitely a way forward for the building.
Speaker 5: Industry we've just got to look at different ways of
Speaker 5: doing things because the conventional way of doing things is
Speaker 5: just is really just so slow and come withsome especially
Speaker 5: for multi multi UNIT talp, developments which there's a lot of.
Speaker 5: Repetition so, YEAH i think it's worth. Prefabrication that's definitely
Speaker 5: the way of the.
Speaker 4: Future, yeah i'd agree with you. There if you want
Speaker 4: to see some Of allen's, work check out Arc lines
Speaker 4: projects on arcline dot co dot M. Z thanks very
Speaker 4: much for joining us this. Morning, ellen been great to
Speaker 4: chat with.
Speaker 9: You thanks very, Much, petter it's Good take, care Z.
Speaker 4: B if you want to find out more about j
Speaker 4: AND l About triboard and the work That ellen, does
Speaker 4: check OUT jnl dot co dot IN. Z And, james
Speaker 4: thanks for. Waiting good morning to.
Speaker 17: You.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Look i'm a trade qualsied cardener from way back
Speaker 6: in the mid seventies AND i heard the study or
Speaker 6: program and the mention of the old. Rebate oddly, enough
Speaker 6: in the last WEEK i had to drag one out
Speaker 6: and use it. Myself and oh good, god it's once
Speaker 6: every twenty years or SO i see, you and every
Speaker 6: now and again a job comes along where nothing else.
Speaker 8: Will do, it AND.
Speaker 6: I, Think, god what an invaluable piece of equipment you,
Speaker 6: are and How i'd hate to ever lose. It but
Speaker 6: a question, Arose you've possibly observed this a lot more than,
Speaker 6: myself Given i've been retired for a. While we've got
Speaker 6: all the mod cons and all the whiz bang you,
Speaker 6: know the latest and greatest and fastest kind of electronics and.
Speaker 6: Technology how much have you observed all that kind of
Speaker 6: gear compromising the ability of so many people to use
Speaker 6: some of the basic.
Speaker 4: Tools, YEAH i, mean, look part of this fools into
Speaker 4: The you, know you might be a little bit ahead of,
Speaker 4: me But i'm a.
Speaker 6: Dinosaur yeah that's.
Speaker 4: Right you, know we are now proud members of The
Speaker 4: Grumpy Old Man, association, right and membership is restricted to
Speaker 4: those with a few gray hairs and a slightly bad
Speaker 4: back and an aching arm from hand nailing your frames
Speaker 4: together back in the. Day, so now that we've figured
Speaker 4: out the ground. Rules, yes we will often talk, about you,
Speaker 4: know younger trades people perhaps not being a Skilled i'm
Speaker 4: pretty sure that my first bosses would have looked at
Speaker 4: me as some sort of muppet as well As i'm
Speaker 4: struggling to use tools and so. On but but, LOOK
Speaker 4: i don't completely disagree with.
Speaker 9: You Like.
Speaker 4: I've been BUILDING i don't, know thirty eight years or
Speaker 4: something like that SINCE i First, so first couple of
Speaker 4: houses we, built we, Oh i'm going to run out of.
Speaker 4: Time we hand nailed the. Frames NOW i think that
Speaker 4: When i'm, Nailing i'm thinking about doing it LIKE i
Speaker 4: did it WHEN i was hand nailing, it which is
Speaker 4: every single one had to be in the right place
Speaker 4: and effective because it took you that much more. Effort
Speaker 4: whereas you give somebody a nail, gun they just fire
Speaker 4: it full of. NAILS i don't know that that necessarily makes.
Speaker 4: It SO i think on that point we're going to.
Speaker 4: Agree and Now i'm going to crash into the. News
Speaker 4: love you. Call thank you very much for Calling james
Speaker 4: back After, News sport And weather at eight. O'clock squeaky door.
Speaker 1: Or squeaky Floor get the right advice From Peter wolfgaef
Speaker 1: the resident builder ON.
Speaker 4: Newstalksb there was delightful conversation With james just prior to the.
Speaker 4: News sorry that we ran into the news there about
Speaker 4: talking ABOUT i mentioned using a rebate plane, right which
Speaker 4: is generally an old fashioned sort of hand plane that you.
Speaker 4: Use you, know if you think about a set Of french,
Speaker 4: doors for, example where they close together because you don't
Speaker 4: have a million there that they close, against so they
Speaker 4: each one has a rebate on. It the first one
Speaker 4: that closes it's on the, inside the second one that closes,
Speaker 4: overlaps and sometimes when they move a little bit and
Speaker 4: you might need to ease, them you've got to get
Speaker 4: in there in that right into the corner and take
Speaker 4: a little bit of timber off and you can get
Speaker 4: some power planers that will allow you to do a
Speaker 4: rebate that, deep but not. Many otherwise you could try sanding,
Speaker 4: it but then that's uneven in the sense that it's
Speaker 4: really hard to get a flat surface when you're sanding
Speaker 4: something like. That you can set up a circular saw
Speaker 4: and a guide and try and take a couple of
Speaker 4: millimeters off just in one particular, area or if you're
Speaker 4: an old fashioned chippy like, me you go into your
Speaker 4: box of tools and drag out A i don't, know
Speaker 4: fifty sixty year old rebate plane THAT i probably use
Speaker 4: once or twice a blue, moon to be. Fair but
Speaker 4: WHEN i do need to use, it AS i did,
Speaker 4: yesterday it worked and it worked, beautifully and THEN i
Speaker 4: Thought i'd better get the right, name SO i had
Speaker 4: a look online just to identify the correct. Terminology so
Speaker 4: it's a rebate rabbit. Plane mine happens to be A carts,
Speaker 4: one which is a particular brand from back in the.
Speaker 4: Day AND i found actually one for sale on a
Speaker 4: vintage tool. Website and of, course ONCE i found one
Speaker 4: vintage hand, PLANE i then discovered that they had seven
Speaker 4: pages of vintage hand planes for, sale And i'm starting
Speaker 4: to look at, those Going DO i need A french
Speaker 4: cabinet maker's chair? PLANE i suspect THAT i. Do it's
Speaker 4: a very beautiful piece of. Kit DO i want to
Speaker 4: get an Old marple's router? Plane BECAUSE i remember using
Speaker 4: those in woodwork either in nine seventy eight or nineteen
Speaker 4: seventy nine WHEN i lasted woodwork at. School so, anyway
Speaker 4: it works. Right it's old gear and it. Works speaking
Speaker 4: about old gear that, works So one of the jobs
Speaker 4: this week was to replace tongue and groove decking on
Speaker 4: a traditional villa, veranda so six meters, wide just over
Speaker 4: two point four, depth so it's about forty eight boards
Speaker 4: that have to be fitted. Down so pulled up the
Speaker 4: old boards because they'd started to, rot pulled up half of,
Speaker 4: them set out the first, one and then started laying.
Speaker 4: Them and with tongue and, groove you need to clamp
Speaker 4: it together a little, bit and typically on most site
Speaker 4: sites you'll screw a block down onto the top of
Speaker 4: the joyst make up some wedges a little bit of
Speaker 4: offcut so you don't damage the tongue or the, groove
Speaker 4: and then knock those together and that'll draw the boards,
Speaker 4: together fix those, off reset and move. On EXCEPT i
Speaker 4: bought a couple of years ago some record flooring, clamps
Speaker 4: again really old, fashioned that have kit heavy cast and
Speaker 4: they sit over the top of the. Joist so they've
Speaker 4: got some clamps that. Activators you put pressure on, them
Speaker 4: and then a winder at the top which extends a
Speaker 4: piston basically or a thread with a block on it
Speaker 4: that then clamps the boards. Together the guys reckon first
Speaker 4: on the guys THAT i had working with, me had
Speaker 4: ever used them. Reckon it probably saved them half a
Speaker 4: day of labor in using these flooring. Clamps if you've got,
Speaker 4: them hang on to. Them if you don't know What
Speaker 4: i'm talking, about look them up online record flooring. Clamps
Speaker 4: what amazed me today WHEN i did go and look for,
Speaker 4: them is that you can buy new ones as.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: MINOR i don't know how. OLD i bought them from
Speaker 4: a carpenter who was retiring a couple of years. Ago
Speaker 4: it took me about five years to find a set
Speaker 4: searching on trade, me BUT i did find, them And
Speaker 4: i'm delighted THAT i had, them and my brother was
Speaker 4: using them a couple of weeks. Ago these guys using
Speaker 4: them this, week their boss is probably going to borrow
Speaker 4: them in a couple of weeks. Time, oh eight hundred
Speaker 4: and eighty ten. Eighty let's get into the talk back
Speaker 4: through till eight Thirty all things building. Construction couple of
Speaker 4: actually a couple of quick announcements. Too next week on the,
Speaker 4: SHOW i had an opportunity to talk insurance with some insurance.
Speaker 4: Experts this is around what sort of insurance do you
Speaker 4: need if you're renovating or extending or doing work at.
Speaker 4: Home so we talked about public, liability we talked about
Speaker 4: contract works, insurance we talked about you, know at what
Speaker 4: time do you need to contact your. Insurance so we've
Speaker 4: got a summary of all of those. Things we'll do
Speaker 4: that next week on the. Show and then last week
Speaker 4: at around this, time we were talking with The minister
Speaker 4: Of building In, Construction Chris PINK, mp and we did
Speaker 4: that over the. Phone chris has been very generous with
Speaker 4: his time and, said, Look i'm happy to come in
Speaker 4: and take. Calls So i'm pleased to say That Chris,
Speaker 4: pink The, minister will be in the studio with me
Speaker 4: On may the, eleventh so a couple of weeks away
Speaker 4: for an, hour So i'll be able to ask some.
Speaker 4: Questions you'll be able to ask some questions as, Well
Speaker 4: so looking forward to that on the eleventh Of. May
Speaker 4: hub good morning to.
Speaker 17: You, yeah, Morning. Pete, yeah it's been a bit of
Speaker 17: a weight but you know that's, right just a bit
Speaker 17: of useless.
Speaker 4: Information but you talk about that router router, Plane, yes.
Speaker 17: Yeah that one you're. Using. NOW i had an uncle
Speaker 17: and back in the nineteen sixties and he was using
Speaker 17: that tool and he called it an old woman's. Tooth
Speaker 17: you'll know exactly What i'm talking.
Speaker 4: About, oh that's. Fantastic he was a master builder and.
Speaker 17: Joiner, Yes so that that was WHAT i was going
Speaker 17: to tell.
Speaker 4: You AND i think that people who kind of like
Speaker 4: if you think about going into an old villa and
Speaker 4: you you walk, around, right and you look at an,
Speaker 4: architrave which you know is typically about one hundred and
Speaker 4: twenty five millimeters. Wide it's got a round and then
Speaker 4: A v and then a flat and then another forty
Speaker 4: five and then a scollop And, okay a lot of
Speaker 4: that stuff was run through early steam powered, machines but
Speaker 4: some of those moldings were also made by people by,
Speaker 4: hand using planes that had specific blades for specific. Tasks.
Speaker 4: Right AND i know my old Boss tom has a
Speaker 4: collection of those, planes which were either his father's or his.
Speaker 4: Grandfathers so we're probably talking you one hundred and thirty
Speaker 4: hundred and forty year old beautiful wooden hand planes with
Speaker 4: all of the different shapes on, them just. Glorious.
Speaker 17: Right here were those sash windows and that on those
Speaker 17: old ver THOSE i, mean there's a lot of you, know.
Speaker 4: Overload molds and rebates and, yeah, yeah, yeah but LOOK
Speaker 4: i have to, say And i'm sure you'll appreciate this,
Speaker 4: that you, know LIKE i had to do this little job.
Speaker 4: YESTERDAY i was in a. RUSH i grabbed this rebate
Speaker 4: plane AND i used it to be fair and to be,
Speaker 4: honest it's not as sharp as it should, be but
Speaker 4: it worked, Okay AND i, thought, man that's. Fantastic i've taken,
Speaker 4: something this old tool That i've had on to all
Speaker 4: of these, years and WHEN i needed, it it did
Speaker 4: the job. Perfectly so.
Speaker 17: You say it's called a rabbit, thing but you can
Speaker 17: see why it would be because it's got two rabbit
Speaker 17: looking teeth sticking. Down probably, yeah, yeah the, Reason, yeah,
Speaker 17: no they.
Speaker 4: Gorgeous WHAT i need To i'll go and find is
Speaker 4: a little bull nose rebate. PLANE i don't have one of,
Speaker 4: those So i'll be hoped for one of. Those, now
Speaker 4: lovely to talk with.
Speaker 17: You, now, Listen, pete don't forget to do the Divine
Speaker 17: mercy no vena From Good friday To Mercy.
Speaker 4: Sunday, yes you're, right and today Is Palm. Sunday and
Speaker 4: given that you mention, IT i just realized that forty
Speaker 4: years ago On Palm. SUNDAY i was actually In rome
Speaker 4: at mass At Saint Peter's square BECAUSE i was there
Speaker 4: Representing New. Zealand it Was International year Of Young, people
Speaker 4: AND i HAPPENS i gave a gift to Then Pope
Speaker 4: John paul the second on behalf of The Newsic Catholic,
Speaker 4: church which was kind of. Cool so that Was Palm
Speaker 4: sunday forty years. Ago, yep there you. Go nice to
Speaker 4: talk to you.
Speaker 8: All our.
Speaker 4: Best take care byah. Think, yeah it was a great it.
Speaker 4: Was it was a fantastic trip and a tremendous, honor
Speaker 4: to be. Fair stick out that. Photo it's out there.
Speaker 4: Somewhere fifteen minutes after. Eight remember we've got Red kline
Speaker 4: pass coming up at eight. Thirty if you've got any
Speaker 4: gardening or anthropological, questions you can call through from eight
Speaker 4: to thirty this. Morning, oh eight hundred and eighty ten
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to. Call one of the things
Speaker 4: we talked about today on the show as well is
Speaker 4: sort of being able to build without necessarily requiring a building.
Speaker 4: Consent this is very much in the public mind at the.
Speaker 4: Moment there's lots of talk from the government about changing
Speaker 4: legislation to allow certain types of being buildings to be
Speaker 4: built without necessarily requiring a building, consent you can still
Speaker 4: go and get, one but there might be another pathway
Speaker 4: and someone's text through to, say, hey, look how do
Speaker 4: owners build? It or do owner builders have any trouble
Speaker 4: when selling an owner built house considering that they generally
Speaker 4: won't be qualified and they would be liable for any warranty.
Speaker 4: Issues that's a slightly different situation to what we might
Speaker 4: have coming. Up but so at the, moment restricted building,
Speaker 4: work any work that needs a building consent can only
Speaker 4: be done or supervised by a licensed building practitioner unless
Speaker 4: you get a owner builder, exemption which you can do
Speaker 4: under The. Act so.
Speaker 10: But it's.
Speaker 4: Limited you can only apply for. ONE i think it's
Speaker 4: every two or three. Years BUT i would imagine that
Speaker 4: in that instance you're still getting council. Inspections you'll still
Speaker 4: get A ccc for the. Building it's just that the
Speaker 4: person who would normally be THE lbp. Isn't they're an owner.
Speaker 4: Builder so in that sense that's quite different to what they're,
Speaker 4: proposing which is no building consent so no council. Inspection
Speaker 4: so if you've finished a building, somehow you have to
Speaker 4: be able to PROVE i think to the new, OWNERS
Speaker 4: i built this according to the code and here's the
Speaker 4: reasons WHY i believe that to be the. Case so
Speaker 4: that'll be an interesting one to see how that works.
Speaker 4: Out that's the sort of thing that we'll be able
Speaker 4: to discuss with The Minister Chris pink when he joins
Speaker 4: us in the studio on the eleventh Of may seventeen
Speaker 4: after eight back With pauline.
Speaker 9: In just a.
Speaker 1: Moment we're helping you get THOSE diy projects done. Right
Speaker 1: the resident builder With Peter wolfgart call. Eighteen you've talk
Speaker 1: Zid be your news.
Speaker 4: Talk Zid be And PAULINE a very good morning to.
Speaker 18: You and good morning to. You i've just been listening
Speaker 18: to the radio and you might be solving my. Problems my,
Speaker 18: husband who passed away three years, ago had been.
Speaker 8: An, Engineer.
Speaker 18: Rett he also had always been an avid tool. Collector,
Speaker 18: yes so much. SO i have a basement of old
Speaker 18: tools and they're all, polished all, shiny all in working.
Speaker 18: ORDER i have no idea what to do with. Them
Speaker 18: he always said to, me don't you dare go to
Speaker 18: the charity. Shop i'll come back. Thoughts, yeah, YEAH i
Speaker 18: don't know where to go AND i just told you
Speaker 18: talking about, it and it's probably probably is old, builders
Speaker 18: isn't it older?
Speaker 4: Builders although you, KNOW i mean there is a younger
Speaker 4: generation that still, loves you, know the traditional. Crafts SO
Speaker 4: i think we are actually seeing sort of a rise in,
Speaker 4: popularity let's, say of traditional woodworking techniques and younger, people
Speaker 4: not just trades, people but younger men and women who are, going,
Speaker 4: ACTUALLY i really love that craft AND i want to
Speaker 4: do something that takes me time That i'm more connected
Speaker 4: with and so. On and that's that's what you get
Speaker 4: with hand, tools, right that's WHAT.
Speaker 8: I like about.
Speaker 4: Them, look CAN i suggest that if obviously there's no
Speaker 4: one in the immediate family that wants to take?
Speaker 18: Them and SOMETIMES i have a brother in law who's
Speaker 18: the same age as my, husband and it also is
Speaker 18: a collector of Old, yes and here he's in the
Speaker 18: men's shed and he, said he, said because i'd strike
Speaker 18: chatt into the, mensched he, Said or don't do, that
Speaker 18: because they've got so Many if we don't know where snowed, Under,
Speaker 18: yeah that's that's the.
Speaker 4: PROBLEM i tell you what if maybe he would have
Speaker 4: some contacts, though because what there are is quite a
Speaker 4: network of antique tool collectors, clubs, Right AND i remember
Speaker 4: years AGO i actually went to a. Meeting it was
Speaker 4: at was it Was Continental stairs actually at their, factory
Speaker 4: and it was a night time and there was a
Speaker 4: group of about ten or, fifteen as you can, expect
Speaker 4: old blokes sitting around showing their latest tools and talking
Speaker 4: about old. Tools SO i just wonder whether if someone
Speaker 4: you know can plug you into that network and then
Speaker 4: maybe there's someone there who can help you with, disposal
Speaker 4: because you know what you might find throw them? Away oh, no, no,
Speaker 4: no that would be. Tragic AND i think sometimes what
Speaker 4: you might find is someone will be able TO identi
Speaker 4: that these are quite, collectible in which case they might
Speaker 4: help you sell, them or that there'll be a collector
Speaker 4: who could help with disposal to ensure that they. DON'T i, mean,
Speaker 4: look if they did go to, it, well if you
Speaker 4: were going to go to a charity, Shop i'd seduce
Speaker 4: someway Like habitat For humanity for their restore stores because
Speaker 4: they do a lot of building. Works i've dropped off
Speaker 4: lots of old tools or tools that are surplus to requirement.
Speaker 4: There BUT i, think see if you can plug into
Speaker 4: some of these antique tool collectors clubs and that might
Speaker 4: be a good way. Forward so do you THINK i
Speaker 4: just just Do google search or perhaps talk to brother
Speaker 4: in law and, say you, know if he's involved with men,
Speaker 4: sheds that's probably not a bad place to. Start thank
Speaker 4: you so.
Speaker 18: MUCH i Mean i've been three years now and they're
Speaker 18: still all that.
Speaker 4: Now also In, auckland there is a community workshop based
Speaker 4: in the, city which is a community workshop that allows
Speaker 4: people to come and work, there but they also have
Speaker 4: like a tool library where you can take. Tools, right
Speaker 4: so that there is the beginning of this sort of
Speaker 4: like this sort of, movement you, know where people want
Speaker 4: to relearn those traditional skills and being able to use
Speaker 4: traditional tools for that is. Essential so you, know if
Speaker 4: you can get either do it yourself or get someone
Speaker 4: to help, You i'm sure you'll find a really good
Speaker 4: home for those.
Speaker 18: Tools oh thank, you because it's a.
Speaker 4: Pleasure how.
Speaker 18: Beautiful BUT i just inform them in my, HOUSE i.
Speaker 4: Understand, yeah absolutely lovely to talk with. You all the
Speaker 4: best your, time take. Care, Hi Hey, debbie how are
Speaker 4: you this? Morning?
Speaker 19: Hi i'm, Good how are you?
Speaker 4: Good thank?
Speaker 13: You what's?
Speaker 19: Up we've had some contracting work done at our. House the,
Speaker 19: contractor we used this as last. Job the work that
Speaker 19: he's done has now.
Speaker 13: Become.
Speaker 19: Boulty we have no. Problems here's no. Problems he knows it's.
Speaker 19: Faulty he's a really nice guy and stuff like. That
Speaker 19: but my question, Was i'm not sure that he had
Speaker 19: any sort of. Insurance but now he's wound up his,
Speaker 19: company can he still claim on his? Insurance if he has,
Speaker 19: insurance it's probably stopped his insurance. Now but this was
Speaker 19: done prior to he found up his.
Speaker 10: Company.
Speaker 4: YEAH i know that some insurances have what they call
Speaker 4: a run on. Policy, right so even if you've stopped,
Speaker 4: trading if the jobs that were done when the policy was,
Speaker 4: current you as the owner of the property can still
Speaker 4: make a claim or a claim can still be received
Speaker 4: on that for maybe a period of up to ten. Years.
Speaker 4: Now i'm pretty sure as well that some of those
Speaker 4: run on policies would require the contract to continue paying
Speaker 4: a premium which might diminish over. Time, yeah SO i
Speaker 4: guess you could look at. THAT i guess he still
Speaker 4: has responsibilities under The Consumer Guarantees act as, well so
Speaker 4: not just The Building. Act the other thing, is, then
Speaker 4: was it building work that was. Done, no, okay, sorry
Speaker 4: what sort of work was? It concrete?
Speaker 14: Work?
Speaker 4: Okay you don't necessarily need to be a licensed building
Speaker 4: practitioner to do. That but if they were a licensed
Speaker 4: building practitioner and you, can you could either ask them
Speaker 4: or you could just look up their name online and
Speaker 4: that'll tell you within a couple of seconds whether or
Speaker 4: not they're AN. Lbp then they still have some responsibilities
Speaker 4: for their work. Afterwards but you, know concrete, work if
Speaker 4: it's not part of a, building if it's not part
Speaker 4: of restricted building, work isn't covered by the legislation regarding
Speaker 4: restricted building, Work so there's probably no warranty.
Speaker 19: There if he knows it's, sorry, YEAH i admitted.
Speaker 17: IT i JUST i just don't.
Speaker 19: KNOW i don't know whether he's thought about taming on his.
Speaker 19: INSURANCE i don't know whether he's got insurance OR i
Speaker 19: just Do.
Speaker 4: It would sound unusual if he had, Insurance i'm, thinking
Speaker 4: or that he had a comprehensive enough insurance policy to
Speaker 4: allow those sorts of claims after the work has been
Speaker 4: finished and possibly after he's wound up his. Business what,
Speaker 4: just very, briefly what's the extent of the poor quality?
Speaker 4: Work what's the, nature.
Speaker 8: It's all.
Speaker 19: Cracking there wasn't enough.
Speaker 9: Cuts put in, it, Right, Okay.
Speaker 4: So it's not an easy, fix and in, fact the
Speaker 4: only really acceptable fix is probably to remove it and replace.
Speaker 4: It and then that's a terribly expensive, process isn't.
Speaker 10: It.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, look you can ask whether there's. INSURANCE i
Speaker 4: think if there isn't any, insurance which is probably highly,
Speaker 4: unlikely then your chances of redress are fairly. SMALL i would.
Speaker 19: Say so if he doesn't have, insurance that's on.
Speaker 4: Us then if he doesn't have insurance and he's wrapped
Speaker 4: up his business and you can't convince a court that
Speaker 4: he is personally liable for the, work then, yeah it
Speaker 4: doesn't sound like there's a lot of options for. YOU
Speaker 4: i don't. Think. YEAH i, mean you, know if you've
Speaker 4: got a good relationship with a, lawyer it might be worth.
Speaker 4: Asking BUT i think, unfortunately and with the greatest respect to,
Speaker 4: lawyers you, know often it'll cost you more with a
Speaker 4: lawyer to take the case than might be the cost
Speaker 4: of repairing it in some. Cases AGAIN i say that
Speaker 4: with respect in which and there's no guaranteed, outcome then, so.
Speaker 14: But there's no come back on any of this sort
Speaker 14: of work unless you go through a.
Speaker 4: Court unless you go through the, court you could try
Speaker 4: to dispute. Stribunal it's a bit more, affordable AND i
Speaker 4: guess in the first instance you could see whether there's.
Speaker 4: Insurance but my sense is that that's really.
Speaker 10: Unlikely, wow, okay.
Speaker 4: It, was you, Know AND i mean this is probably
Speaker 4: worthy of further, discussion and certainly it's going to be
Speaker 4: something That i'll raise with the. Minister is you, know
Speaker 4: should we be moving to a place where all contractors
Speaker 4: doing work require? Insurance like right, now you don't have
Speaker 4: to be insured to be doing work like. That you
Speaker 4: don't have to take out contract works, insurance you don't
Speaker 4: have to have you, know possibly you don't even have
Speaker 4: to have public well you. Don't you don't have to
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