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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from news talks at by Mens twice god once but

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Speaker 1: maybe called Pete first. Peter wolf Camp, the Resident Builder

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Speaker 1: News Talk said, by.

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Speaker 2: The house sizzle even when it's dark, even when the

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Speaker 2: grass is overgrown in the yard, even when the dog.

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Speaker 3: Is too old to borrow, and when you're sitting at

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Speaker 3: the table trying to stop scissor home, even when.

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Speaker 4: We are ban, even when you're.

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Speaker 3: Therellone house sizzle given when those goals, even when you

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Speaker 3: go around home the ones you love your most.

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Speaker 4: Scream, broken pains, appel and fund, the.

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Speaker 2: Locals vestible when they're going and leaving them.

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Speaker 3: Even when we ban, even when you're in there alone.

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Speaker 4: And a very very good morning, and welcome along to

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Speaker 4: the Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with me Peak wolf Camp,

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Speaker 4: the Resident Builder, and we are going to talk all

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Speaker 4: things building and construction and maintenance and extensions and legislation

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Speaker 4: and product selection, and possibly we could even talk about tools.

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Speaker 4: That's a fairly essential part of any sort of DIY

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Speaker 4: or building project. And in fact, I had a very

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Speaker 4: just briefly, I had a very happy moment yesterday where

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Speaker 4: actually it wasn't actually that happy. At the beginning. I

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Speaker 4: was trying to get some jobs done, and I had

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Speaker 4: fabricated up a piece of bullnos essentially, so you know,

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Speaker 4: timber stairs, right, typically are rounded over at the front

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Speaker 4: of a sort of convental older style timber stair. And

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Speaker 4: I've been working on with a couple of guys replacing

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Speaker 4: the decking on a verandah at the back of the

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Speaker 4: go down. I thought, well, instead of just having the

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Speaker 4: decking board extending over the riser, I'll make up a

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Speaker 4: piece of bullnose so to look like the rest of

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Speaker 4: the fronts of the treads. And so I made this up,

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Speaker 4: and I had to send it through the saw and

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Speaker 4: effectively cut a tongue onto a piece of timber so

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Speaker 4: groove decking right, And I'd made all of that, and

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Speaker 4: I thought it fitted okay, and I tested a piece,

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Speaker 4: and then when I went to put it in yesterday,

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Speaker 4: I thought, now, I've got to take a couple of

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Speaker 4: millimeters off this tongue. But if I send it through

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Speaker 4: the saw, it'll wobble. If I try and set up

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Speaker 4: so I thought, hang on, I've got an old rebaiting plane.

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Speaker 4: And if you know what a rebating plane is, you'll

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Speaker 4: know exactly what I mean. It's a old well, there's

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Speaker 4: a variety of the mine is an old metal one.

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Speaker 4: When I say old, I reckon it's probably about seventy

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Speaker 4: of the toolboxes where I keep my old tools, grabbed it,

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Speaker 4: But I had it and it worked, and it's old,

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Speaker 4: and I felt absolutely fantastic about it. So anyway, I'll

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Speaker 4: tell you a bit more about that little project. So

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Speaker 4: tell me about your project. Tell me what's happening at

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Speaker 4: your place. Are you renovating, are you extending? Are you

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Speaker 4: thinking about working with contractors? Are you confused about changes

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Speaker 4: to the legislation. Speaking of the legislation last week, it

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Speaker 4: Chris Pink available to just talk about a couple of

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Speaker 4: things that are changing around, in particular the bcas the

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Speaker 4: building consent authorities and the processing of that. A little

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Speaker 4: bit of discussion around maybe some further powers for the

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Speaker 4: building Standards or the Building Standards, the Licensed Building Practitioners

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Speaker 4: Disciplinary Board to deal with contractors that don't perform well.

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Speaker 4: There's a whole host of new legislation and I did

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Speaker 4: feel there's more to discuss, and he made the offer

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Speaker 4: if you've got any specific building legislation questions, and so

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Speaker 4: we can lock in that date the eleventh of May,

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Speaker 4: Chris Pink, the Minister for Building in Construction, will join

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Speaker 4: But right now it's your opportunity. So if you have

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Speaker 4: take a breath, take a step back, think about a solution,

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Speaker 4: execute the solution, put it together. Job done. Oh, eight

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Speaker 4: us a call, love to talk to you this morning.

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Speaker 4: We're taking your calls right through till eight thirty. I

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Speaker 4: course we're talking to climb Past who will join us

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Speaker 4: the wonderful world of bugs. But right now it's your

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Speaker 4: opportunity to ask questions, to discuss, to debate, if you

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Speaker 4: wish to make a few comments, all things building, and Construction.

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Speaker 4: A very good morning and welcome along to the resident

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Speaker 4: builder on Sunday and Kate, A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, hey there, how are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Why are you?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Well, come to the end of my new build project.

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Speaker 7: I haven't probably remember speaking to me P. Four, But look,

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Speaker 7: I had good builders on site. I think they did

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Speaker 7: a good job. We did five failed inspectors, but we

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Speaker 7: practical completion. And in order to get my insurance, I

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Speaker 7: have to have a final inspection, yes, which and now

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Speaker 7: I now need help with because I need help preparing

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Speaker 7: the documents that the LBP who was supervising was never

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Speaker 7: there and he's the business owner and he's now refusing

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Speaker 7: think he sort of moved on. But you know, people

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Speaker 7: I've got to prepare for this final inspection. I called

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Speaker 7: the council and they gave me a list and they said,

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Speaker 7: and if he is not there and you can't answer,

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Speaker 7: it's going to fail.

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Speaker 4: So I am worried Pete understandably, and I'm disappointed to

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Speaker 4: hear that that's the attitude that they can. I just

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Speaker 4: run through a couple of quick questions. So the nature

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Speaker 4: did you run the contract?

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Speaker 7: It was an NZCB contract six price. But I got

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Speaker 7: materials up to the substore and then the kit set

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Speaker 7: and they said no, no, you must use eyes, so

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Speaker 7: I said the User Grouping Association. And then they insisted

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Speaker 7: on using THEIRS for the rest. But in the fixed price,

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Speaker 7: he forgot to include the most of the electricians, the

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Speaker 7: and I queried it, and then I also queried some

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Speaker 7: if I owed nothing, and then he sort of walked

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Speaker 7: and get some other jobs that he just took away.

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Speaker 7: So I've I had to go to school on doing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, we didn't want to talk to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: to be fair is a little bit disappointing obviously, and

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Speaker 4: particularly like you know, if there was something in the

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Speaker 4: and the fact that you've managed some of it yourself,

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Speaker 4: you know, I won't be there at the final inspection.

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Speaker 4: So okay, So in terms of preparing for the final inspection,

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Speaker 4: you may actually not need an enormous amount of documentation

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Speaker 4: at this stage. That's typically the application for a code

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Speaker 4: bit of a challenging thing with cccs, the responsibility because

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Speaker 4: the consent, the building consent will be in your name,

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Speaker 4: so the responsibility to lodge a CCC is also your responsibility. Now,

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Speaker 4: in many cases clients or homeowners get their builder, their

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Speaker 4: or it happens within the sort of administration of the business, right,

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Speaker 4: So I think what might happen is that you will

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Speaker 4: book a final inspection. The inspector will come out. You know,

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Speaker 4: going look, this is the failure rate for inspections. To

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Speaker 4: be fair, I've never expected, and this might not sound

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Speaker 4: something that the inspector picks up, whether it's a vacuum

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Speaker 4: your book of final inspection you'll be there. The inspector

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Speaker 4: what it is that you have to get done. Now,

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Speaker 4: if some of those tasks are tasked that your main

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Speaker 4: contractor should have done, you can ring the main contractor

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Speaker 4: or send them the email, because it'll come to you

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Speaker 4: as an email, send that on and just go. I'd

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Speaker 4: like you to come and attend to these items please,

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Speaker 4: and if you need to contact the drain layer of

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Speaker 4: So then I think it's not unreasonable to ask the

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Speaker 4: sort that out. Once those things have been done, you

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Speaker 4: application for a CCC. I think if there doesn't seem

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Speaker 4: to be any reasonable grounds for the contractor not to engage,

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Speaker 4: I think that they're actually in breach of their responsibilities

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Speaker 4: under I was going to say the new Code of

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Speaker 4: Ethics for Licensed Building Practitioners, it's actually not that new now.

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Speaker 4: It was issued in October twenty twenty two. Seemingly some

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Speaker 4: lbps are not aware of their responsibilities. They've never read it,

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Speaker 4: they've never taken the time, and I think that you

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Speaker 4: could remind them, and the fact that your contractor is

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Speaker 7: Well, I did that and set aside buildings are quite good.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't much paid, it was under seven thousand dollars.

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Speaker 7: They just said, oh, well, we want an unrestricted access

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Speaker 4: the Code of Ethics potentially, if you're not getting some

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Speaker 1: Doing up the house storting the guard and asked Pete

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Speaker 1: OH eight ten eighty Newstalgs'd be At the.

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Speaker 4: Beginning of the show. I mentioned something I was doing

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Speaker 4: seventy eight Duplex rebate Rabbit plane eighty five. Bucks i'll

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Speaker 4: Thanks i'm not going to sell it for eighty five.

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Speaker 4: Great ACTUALLY i used another old tool too THAT i

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Speaker 4: i was the lackey on this. PROJECT i just made

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Speaker 4: little bit later on this. Morning right, here let's get into. It,

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Speaker 4: dave good, Morning good.

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Speaker 11: Morning how were?

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Speaker 4: Youting, So i'm very, well thank you and yourself?

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Speaker 11: Good, yeah not too. Bad, Now i've got a forty

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Speaker 11: Problem i'm having is it's so it's got a block,

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Speaker 11: now the white dropped is because it is a. Driveway

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Speaker 11: so in the last five years and just in the

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Speaker 11: my driveway.

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Speaker 9: Is and.

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Speaker 11: New houses have been built, right so new was right next.

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Speaker 11: Door so, Sorry they've built the retaining, wall So i'll

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Speaker 11: in that. Properly so what's happened is they've drained the

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Speaker 11: Down and now what's happened is that the stairs to

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Speaker 11: Millimeters so on the like the the rail that goes

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Speaker 11: your fingers through. It so it's like a one centimeter.

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Speaker 11: Gap you can see the nails on the railing and

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Speaker 11: on the platform the nails have popped up like probably five.

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Speaker 11: There AND i mentioned the company THAT i got to

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Speaker 4: Not, no it's not probably, really that's.

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Speaker 10: RIGHT i.

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Speaker 11: GOT i got five different, quotes Oh cray five five,

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Speaker 11: quotes probably two or three of. Them they were more

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Speaker 11: and what what from WHAT i? KNOW i, MEAN i

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Speaker 11: just get ninety nine percent for school steam would?

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Speaker 4: Work just just tell, Me dave The so the stairs are?

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Speaker 4: Timber are they open? Treads closed? Treads so is it

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Speaker 4: Riser what type of steeds are?

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Speaker 11: They i'm, sultan it would BE i would say the

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Speaker 4: Okay and the steers there's how many? Steps about five or?

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Speaker 11: Six?

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Speaker 4: Okay the?

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Speaker 11: Platform the platforms like a meter square that it goes

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Speaker 4: Door, yeah and the platform has stayed level or has

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Speaker 4: Slightly and how is the? Platform how are the platform

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Speaker 12: Driveway, well there is a couple of posts on the you,

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Speaker 12: know there is a there is a couple of. Posts they,

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Speaker 12: are but it has moved because the driveways drop down

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Speaker 12: that twenty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Sure i'm wondering whether part of the solution might be,

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Speaker 4: that you, know like you could pull the stairs off

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Speaker 4: fixings from the ground so if it's on a, post

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Speaker 4: it might have a bolt or a couple of nails

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Speaker 4: through it and cut through, those adjust the treads a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit and it's sort of one of those THINGS i

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Speaker 4: that nothing will be perfect with old, houses so you adjust,

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Speaker 4: them finess, them massage it a little, bit and you

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Speaker 4: get a reasonable. Solution and that's Why i'm. Wondering if

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Speaker 4: the stairs are still, sound even if the ground has,

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Speaker 4: just so it's not racking and, twisting and then put

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Speaker 4: hold it in place and just make it. Good otherwise

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Speaker 4: you're talking about a rebuild AND i suspect that any,

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Speaker 4: movement AND i think you're right in identifying that it's

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Speaker 4: that will have subsided to a certain point and. Stop

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Speaker 4: SO i don't think you'll get too much more movement

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Speaker 4: on the driveway now that the work is being. Completed

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Speaker 4: BUT i think it feels like it's sort, of you,

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Speaker 4: know a little bit of a, massage a little bit of,

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Speaker 4: finessing and you should be able to just adjust the,

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Speaker 4: Hazard so good luck with that, Project, dave And i'm

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Speaker 4: sure you'll be able to find a contractor who'll come

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Speaker 4: and do the. Work it is six point thirty two

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Speaker 4: here at News Talk SET. Pep we'll talk To arthur

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Speaker 4: straight after the.

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Speaker 1: Break whether you're, petiss fixing The, feds or wondering how

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Speaker 1: to fix that hole in the. Wall Give peter Wolf

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Speaker 1: cap call on eighty the resident builder On News dogs'

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Speaker 1: b good.

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Speaker 4: Text regarding our first, Caller Actually kate talking about getting

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Speaker 4: sign off final inspection on a relatively compact house that she's.

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Speaker 4: Built seems ironic, now says the text To, andy seems

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Speaker 4: ironic now that we'll be able to build a small

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Speaker 4: house without a. Consent YET i want to build a

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Speaker 4: thirty six square meter engineered garage as in the company

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Speaker 4: will do the entire, job nothing special as far as

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Speaker 4: setbacks or. Sidelines yet my local council want a minimum

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Speaker 4: of fifteen hundred dollars for a. Consent she, Is, Andy,

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Speaker 4: WELL i think that's exactly what The, ministry let's, say

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Speaker 4: wants to circumvent. That you, know what is it that

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Speaker 4: you get via fifteen hundred? BUCKS i guess what you

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Speaker 4: do get is the surety around. It you know that

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Speaker 4: potentially for a person looking to purchase the place in

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Speaker 4: years to, come that they'll, Go, ah there's a building,

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Speaker 4: consent there's a record of all of the, inspections there's

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Speaker 4: a final, inspection there's A ccc attached to. IT i

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Speaker 4: can be confident that the work was done according to

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Speaker 4: the building. Code if we can build buildings without necessarily

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Speaker 4: requiring a building, consent how do you actually know that

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Speaker 4: they're built to the building? Code that'll be an interesting.

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Speaker 4: One we might mention that when we're talking to The

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Speaker 4: in a couple of weeks Time, arthur very good morning to.

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Speaker 8: You, heah good, Morning. Peter Hey. PETER i wonder how

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Speaker 8: many how much radio time is lost with people saying

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Speaker 8: how are you.

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Speaker 13: Of?

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Speaker 8: That every.

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Speaker 4: MORNING i think it's a worthwhile, investment to be. Fair

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Speaker 4: it is the glue that binds us our civility and

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Speaker 4: our social. Contracts so there you, go, Right.

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Speaker 8: Peter i've got a question about a company that does

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Speaker 8: underpinning of buildings and. Housing you see them advertise ON

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Speaker 8: tv quite a bit yip by the injecting some sort

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Speaker 8: of expansion. Compound, yes So i'm my question for this

433
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Speaker 8: is to do with a house and. Underpinning have you

434
00:25:21,215 --> 00:25:26,935
Speaker 8: had any experience of this company or of a company

435
00:25:27,055 --> 00:25:31,215
Speaker 8: using this type of, system and whether it's worked well, enough.

436
00:25:31,135 --> 00:25:31,895
Speaker 4: Yes well or?

437
00:25:31,975 --> 00:25:32,015
Speaker 6: Not?

438
00:25:32,335 --> 00:25:37,015
Speaker 4: Sure SO i think you're probably talking about Main, mark

439
00:25:38,415 --> 00:25:42,335
Speaker 4: AND i haven't used them, myself BUT i know of

440
00:25:42,415 --> 00:25:45,135
Speaker 4: a first hand experience of a couple of people who. Have,

441
00:25:45,415 --> 00:25:49,375
Speaker 4: so for, example someone who had a two story brick

442
00:25:49,455 --> 00:25:53,735
Speaker 4: and Tile it had a single garage on the ground

443
00:25:53,815 --> 00:25:56,095
Speaker 4: floor and the corner of that which was the corner

444
00:25:56,135 --> 00:25:59,615
Speaker 4: of the building was, slumping and so they came, Along

445
00:25:59,855 --> 00:26:03,975
Speaker 4: they set, up they injected the expanding eurothane foam basically

446
00:26:05,335 --> 00:26:08,335
Speaker 4: underneath the core owner of the. Building they continued to

447
00:26:08,415 --> 00:26:11,415
Speaker 4: inject until the building started to, rise and when it

448
00:26:11,495 --> 00:26:14,175
Speaker 4: got to the right height they stopped and it. Worked

449
00:26:14,895 --> 00:26:17,975
Speaker 4: AND i know of one other contractor who's had it

450
00:26:18,055 --> 00:26:22,815
Speaker 4: done as. Well, Certainly i'm aware that it comes at a,

451
00:26:22,895 --> 00:26:26,015
Speaker 4: premium but from the people That i've spoken, with it

452
00:26:26,175 --> 00:26:26,775
Speaker 4: does seem to.

453
00:26:26,895 --> 00:26:31,095
Speaker 8: Work, YEAH i THINK i think the premium that is

454
00:26:31,335 --> 00:26:34,815
Speaker 8: the ability to do that, well at least from WHAT i,

455
00:26:34,935 --> 00:26:38,455
Speaker 8: see the ability to do that without having to get

456
00:26:38,655 --> 00:26:44,935
Speaker 8: diggers and mechanically underpinning a, building which in many, cases

457
00:26:45,775 --> 00:26:48,895
Speaker 8: either due to access or, whatever would be very, tricky

458
00:26:50,135 --> 00:26:52,775
Speaker 8: whereas the system seems like it's a good.

459
00:26:52,855 --> 00:26:56,055
Speaker 4: Solution and then cod WHERE i got to as, well

460
00:26:56,135 --> 00:26:58,935
Speaker 4: that you kind of go, Okay so, yes that is you,

461
00:26:59,015 --> 00:27:02,095
Speaker 4: know it comes with the price. Tag what's my? Alternative

462
00:27:03,015 --> 00:27:05,375
Speaker 4: and you, know for this one That i'm familiar, with

463
00:27:06,055 --> 00:27:09,615
Speaker 4: you a two story building with a concrete slab that's

464
00:27:09,655 --> 00:27:12,135
Speaker 4: slumped in one. Corner you, know how AM i going.

465
00:27:12,015 --> 00:27:14,455
Speaker 9: To jack it? Up you?

466
00:27:14,495 --> 00:27:16,695
Speaker 4: Know doing obviously you need to get in you'd need

467
00:27:16,735 --> 00:27:19,575
Speaker 4: to get, excavators you'd need to get underneath it and

468
00:27:19,895 --> 00:27:22,855
Speaker 4: then use jacks to lift the. Building then you've got

469
00:27:22,895 --> 00:27:25,815
Speaker 4: to then pump concrete in there to underpin it and

470
00:27:25,895 --> 00:27:27,895
Speaker 4: all the rest of. It, now maybe it's not suitable

471
00:27:27,935 --> 00:27:31,775
Speaker 4: for every single, site BUT i have had a fairly

472
00:27:31,895 --> 00:27:34,615
Speaker 4: lengthy discussion with one of their technical people some years

473
00:27:34,655 --> 00:27:36,895
Speaker 4: ago because there was a project THAT i was looking

474
00:27:36,935 --> 00:27:40,895
Speaker 4: at that had significant slumping in one. Corner and it

475
00:27:41,055 --> 00:27:44,135
Speaker 4: was slightly complex because you could see that the building

476
00:27:44,215 --> 00:27:47,175
Speaker 4: was slumping because it was adjacent to a retaining wall

477
00:27:47,215 --> 00:27:49,815
Speaker 4: that wasn't particularly, firm which was on top of a

478
00:27:49,935 --> 00:27:52,935
Speaker 4: slope and so. On so you, KNOW i wondered, whether,

479
00:27:53,295 --> 00:27:57,495
Speaker 4: gosh you, know how much foam will we? Need and

480
00:27:57,615 --> 00:28:00,495
Speaker 4: they that's where it gets challenging for, them as they

481
00:28:00,615 --> 00:28:03,055
Speaker 4: kind of, go, well we know when we've lifted the,

482
00:28:03,095 --> 00:28:05,695
Speaker 4: building but we don't always know what the ground conditions,

483
00:28:05,735 --> 00:28:08,415
Speaker 4: are and so we don't really know how much foam

484
00:28:08,495 --> 00:28:11,695
Speaker 4: and how much foam we, use as foam is probably

485
00:28:11,735 --> 00:28:15,255
Speaker 4: not the right word how much material we, use and

486
00:28:16,055 --> 00:28:18,295
Speaker 4: we'll know when we've done the, job when the building's

487
00:28:18,295 --> 00:28:21,015
Speaker 4: back where you want it to be, Right.

488
00:28:21,695 --> 00:28:26,375
Speaker 8: But in two instances at least that you've had knowledge,

489
00:28:26,415 --> 00:28:32,015
Speaker 8: of it has been. Successful, yes. Right associated, question which

490
00:28:32,095 --> 00:28:37,135
Speaker 8: is as An english system of waterproofing basement areas or

491
00:28:38,255 --> 00:28:42,215
Speaker 8: WHEN i say basements areas that are built into the. Ground,

492
00:28:42,455 --> 00:28:47,735
Speaker 8: yep And i'm talking here sort of sixties. Construction we're

493
00:28:48,455 --> 00:28:50,935
Speaker 8: rather than trying to dig away from the wall and

494
00:28:51,095 --> 00:28:54,655
Speaker 8: do the, standard put a membrane on the outside and

495
00:28:54,775 --> 00:28:57,095
Speaker 8: go through all of, that which would be very costly

496
00:28:57,335 --> 00:29:02,815
Speaker 8: and messy and. Difficult that there's An english. SYSTEM a

497
00:29:02,975 --> 00:29:09,895
Speaker 8: North shore company does it where they put a very

498
00:29:09,975 --> 00:29:13,375
Speaker 8: heavy membrane on the. Inside it's it's almost a plastic

499
00:29:13,495 --> 00:29:17,175
Speaker 8: thing with drains and all sorts of, stuff so they

500
00:29:17,215 --> 00:29:21,415
Speaker 8: are attacking the problem from the. Inside you, KNOW i

501
00:29:21,455 --> 00:29:23,615
Speaker 8: don't want to give the name of that company or

502
00:29:24,495 --> 00:29:26,815
Speaker 8: are you familiar with a system like, That.

503
00:29:28,295 --> 00:29:30,975
Speaker 4: Yes BECAUSE i wonder whether we might be talking about

504
00:29:30,975 --> 00:29:34,055
Speaker 4: the same, Person but for courtesy's, sake we'll leave their

505
00:29:34,135 --> 00:29:34,535
Speaker 4: name out of.

506
00:29:34,615 --> 00:29:34,895
Speaker 13: It so.

507
00:29:36,575 --> 00:29:39,215
Speaker 4: There's a couple of different. Systems And i've certainly seen

508
00:29:39,255 --> 00:29:40,935
Speaker 4: if you watch you, Know Grand designs or any of

509
00:29:40,975 --> 00:29:45,095
Speaker 4: These english home renovation, Shows i've seen that where it's

510
00:29:45,175 --> 00:29:47,735
Speaker 4: effectively an entire membrane that goes on the front with

511
00:29:48,295 --> 00:29:50,415
Speaker 4: it's sort of accepting the fact that you'll never stop

512
00:29:50,455 --> 00:29:53,255
Speaker 4: the water coming, through so let's control it and direct it.

513
00:29:53,335 --> 00:29:57,055
Speaker 4: Away there are other systems where you can use a

514
00:29:57,135 --> 00:30:01,655
Speaker 4: crystalline solution which penetrates through the masonry seeking out, water

515
00:30:01,935 --> 00:30:05,055
Speaker 4: and when it encounters, water the crystals expand and block

516
00:30:05,135 --> 00:30:08,615
Speaker 4: off the. Pathway so that's something Like cemex crystal proof

517
00:30:09,655 --> 00:30:12,135
Speaker 4: that might be a solution as. Well there are these other.

518
00:30:12,215 --> 00:30:14,975
Speaker 4: Systems then there is another one That i'm aware of

519
00:30:15,175 --> 00:30:18,015
Speaker 4: BUT i don't know too much about it, yet that

520
00:30:18,095 --> 00:30:20,135
Speaker 4: a guy THAT i met at a building survey as

521
00:30:20,175 --> 00:30:22,535
Speaker 4: conference was telling me about the other. Day SO i

522
00:30:22,615 --> 00:30:27,375
Speaker 4: think there are solutions out, there and that's all accepting

523
00:30:27,415 --> 00:30:29,175
Speaker 4: the fact that we know that the best solution is

524
00:30:29,335 --> 00:30:31,735
Speaker 4: not to let moisture into the building by doing the

525
00:30:32,575 --> 00:30:35,535
Speaker 4: moisture barrier on the. Exterior but if that's not, practical

526
00:30:35,655 --> 00:30:38,495
Speaker 4: then controlling it on the inside. Work so, YES i

527
00:30:38,655 --> 00:30:40,495
Speaker 4: am aware of those systems as, well.

528
00:30:41,375 --> 00:30:44,615
Speaker 8: And that particular one where they're doing it from the,

529
00:30:44,695 --> 00:30:47,535
Speaker 8: inside not the crystal, line but using a very thick

530
00:30:48,455 --> 00:30:51,335
Speaker 8: membrane and then as you, say directing it. Outside have

531
00:30:51,455 --> 00:30:53,335
Speaker 8: you actually come across that or.

532
00:30:53,455 --> 00:30:55,855
Speaker 4: TIME i haven't seen it, Myself, no So i'm quite.

533
00:30:55,935 --> 00:30:58,295
Speaker 4: Keen you, know if someone was doing, It i'd be

534
00:30:58,375 --> 00:30:59,495
Speaker 4: quite happy to go out and have a.

535
00:30:59,535 --> 00:31:01,975
Speaker 8: Look, yeah, okay thank you lovely to.

536
00:31:02,055 --> 00:31:03,735
Speaker 4: Talk, Actually i'll tell you What arthur just st down the,

537
00:31:03,775 --> 00:31:05,815
Speaker 4: Line and if you could Let, isaia my, producer know

538
00:31:05,975 --> 00:31:07,935
Speaker 4: the name of the, company that would be really, helpful

539
00:31:07,975 --> 00:31:11,495
Speaker 4: if you don't. MIND i, am after, all a fairly curious.

540
00:31:11,575 --> 00:31:13,855
Speaker 4: Person it is six forty three here At News TALK, Cp,

541
00:31:16,055 --> 00:31:18,855
Speaker 4: Folks i've gone down the rabbit. Hole SO i started

542
00:31:18,895 --> 00:31:21,215
Speaker 4: off by talking about this rebate plane THAT i dragged

543
00:31:21,255 --> 00:31:25,095
Speaker 4: out yesterday and used successfully to solve a particular. Problem

544
00:31:25,335 --> 00:31:28,095
Speaker 4: THEN i THOUGHT i should really check the, name you

545
00:31:28,175 --> 00:31:31,055
Speaker 4: know what the appropriate name. Is Then i've ended up

546
00:31:31,135 --> 00:31:35,855
Speaker 4: on a vintage tool, website and Now i'm. Off i'm

547
00:31:35,895 --> 00:31:39,055
Speaker 4: looking at all this stuff, that you, know beautifully, prepared

548
00:31:39,175 --> 00:31:42,975
Speaker 4: beautiful old rebate, planes router. Planes do you remember? Those from?

549
00:31:43,015 --> 00:31:47,695
Speaker 4: WOODWORK i certainly. Do woodwork class about nineteen seventy eight

550
00:31:47,815 --> 00:31:51,455
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy nine with Mister buckton having to make what

551
00:31:51,575 --> 00:31:53,655
Speaker 4: looked like a little sailing, ship and we had to

552
00:31:53,735 --> 00:31:56,575
Speaker 4: do a rebate and we use the rebate. Plane don't

553
00:31:56,615 --> 00:31:58,415
Speaker 4: know whether it was a marble or a record, one

554
00:31:58,535 --> 00:32:01,135
Speaker 4: but we certainly use them in the woodwork. Class don't

555
00:32:01,175 --> 00:32:03,735
Speaker 4: have one of, those don't know THAT i need? One

556
00:32:04,375 --> 00:32:08,895
Speaker 4: might not stop me buying one sixteen minutes away from seven.

557
00:32:08,935 --> 00:32:12,895
Speaker 4: O'clock we'll talk To doug straight after the. Break squeaky

558
00:32:12,935 --> 00:32:14,215
Speaker 4: door or squeaky.

559
00:32:14,295 --> 00:32:17,695
Speaker 1: Floor get the right advice From Peter, wolfcare the resident

560
00:32:17,735 --> 00:32:20,615
Speaker 1: builder on us TALKS mb just a quick.

561
00:32:20,695 --> 00:32:24,455
Speaker 4: Explanation someone sticks, Through Hey, pete why can some people

562
00:32:24,575 --> 00:32:27,175
Speaker 4: not mention company? Names but you can when you feel like.

563
00:32:27,255 --> 00:32:31,855
Speaker 4: It there's a smart ass response to, that Which i'll restrain.

564
00:32:31,975 --> 00:32:34,495
Speaker 4: From but, look one of the Things i'm conscious of

565
00:32:34,815 --> 00:32:39,055
Speaker 4: is if people ring and have a particular dispute with a.

566
00:32:39,135 --> 00:32:42,335
Speaker 4: Company Now i'm not involved with that. DISPUTE i don't

567
00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:44,815
Speaker 4: know all of the, details SO i tend to err

568
00:32:44,895 --> 00:32:47,535
Speaker 4: on the side of caution and, say it's probably best

569
00:32:47,615 --> 00:32:51,215
Speaker 4: that you don't mention that company because what you say

570
00:32:51,295 --> 00:32:53,615
Speaker 4: might be, liabeleists or it might not be the entire,

571
00:32:53,735 --> 00:32:56,615
Speaker 4: truth or there's more to the. Story we know that

572
00:32:56,775 --> 00:33:00,135
Speaker 4: that's the, nature that's human. Nature isn't. It so IF

573
00:33:00,215 --> 00:33:02,935
Speaker 4: i mentioned, companies it's because either they're well, known like

574
00:33:03,015 --> 00:33:05,895
Speaker 4: our previous conversation Main, mark we know that they advertise ON,

575
00:33:05,975 --> 00:33:09,495
Speaker 4: tv et. Cetera so it's not really a. Secret And

576
00:33:09,935 --> 00:33:13,095
Speaker 4: i'm also in that situation where If i've encountered people

577
00:33:13,135 --> 00:33:15,575
Speaker 4: and i've And i've really enjoyed the experience with, them

578
00:33:15,735 --> 00:33:18,455
Speaker 4: Or i've used their products AND i know, them then,

579
00:33:18,775 --> 00:33:21,655
Speaker 4: yeah why WOULDN'T i talk about? Them BUT i do

580
00:33:21,935 --> 00:33:24,855
Speaker 4: want to be cautious ABOUT i suppose being fair and,

581
00:33:25,015 --> 00:33:27,575
Speaker 4: equitable and so in some Cases i'll say to, people,

582
00:33:27,735 --> 00:33:29,495
Speaker 4: know there's no need to mention the company in a

583
00:33:29,775 --> 00:33:31,895
Speaker 4: fair ENOUGH i, Think oh eight hundred and eighty ten

584
00:33:31,975 --> 00:33:34,375
Speaker 4: eighty is that number to Call? Doug how you? Doing?

585
00:33:36,055 --> 00:33:36,615
Speaker 9: See how's?

586
00:33:36,615 --> 00:33:37,415
Speaker 14: Yourself very?

587
00:33:37,455 --> 00:33:37,655
Speaker 9: Well?

588
00:33:38,495 --> 00:33:39,015
Speaker 14: Yeah yeah?

589
00:33:39,215 --> 00:33:42,095
Speaker 4: Joinery, yeah talking about your, router you would HAVE.

590
00:33:44,735 --> 00:33:45,895
Speaker 14: I wouldn't join, you wouldn't?

591
00:33:45,895 --> 00:33:45,935
Speaker 10: You?

592
00:33:46,255 --> 00:33:46,855
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah?

593
00:33:46,935 --> 00:33:51,535
Speaker 4: Absolutely well this was SO i got a bit of sill,

594
00:33:51,615 --> 00:33:54,175
Speaker 4: board you know how on an old villa window at

595
00:33:54,215 --> 00:33:56,975
Speaker 4: the bottom of the across on the, inside you'll often

596
00:33:57,055 --> 00:34:00,975
Speaker 4: have about a forty mili high board with a concave

597
00:34:01,255 --> 00:34:05,175
Speaker 4: surface or convex surface on, it which is the sill,

598
00:34:05,255 --> 00:34:08,175
Speaker 4: board and THEN i got some of that which was

599
00:34:08,255 --> 00:34:11,975
Speaker 4: treated AND i made a tongue on the back of

600
00:34:12,055 --> 00:34:14,695
Speaker 4: it which lined up to the groove on the tongue

601
00:34:14,815 --> 00:34:17,455
Speaker 4: groove decking THAT i was, using and so fitted that

602
00:34:17,575 --> 00:34:19,575
Speaker 4: in so to make, it, OBVIOUSLY i ran it through

603
00:34:19,615 --> 00:34:22,335
Speaker 4: the table saw a couple of, times made the. Tongue

604
00:34:22,415 --> 00:34:24,815
Speaker 4: thought that the tongue was just the right, size like

605
00:34:24,855 --> 00:34:27,495
Speaker 4: a nice snug, fit but WHEN i actually came to fit,

606
00:34:27,615 --> 00:34:31,695
Speaker 4: it it was just like half a millimeter over. Size

607
00:34:31,695 --> 00:34:33,415
Speaker 4: AND i, thought IF i smack it with a big,

608
00:34:33,495 --> 00:34:36,535
Speaker 4: Hammer i'm probably just going to ruin, it Or i'm

609
00:34:36,575 --> 00:34:40,655
Speaker 4: going to split the either side of the groove and

610
00:34:40,775 --> 00:34:43,055
Speaker 4: Then i'll have to replace the. Board SO i needed

611
00:34:43,135 --> 00:34:45,375
Speaker 4: just to take a fraction off, that AND i thought

612
00:34:45,775 --> 00:34:47,815
Speaker 4: by the TIME i set the table saw up again

613
00:34:47,895 --> 00:34:49,415
Speaker 4: and all the rest of. It and so that's WHERE

614
00:34:49,415 --> 00:34:53,295
Speaker 4: i grabbed my little rebate plane and that worked. Well,

615
00:34:53,535 --> 00:34:54,295
Speaker 4: anyway what's your?

616
00:34:54,415 --> 00:34:59,415
Speaker 14: Job, yeah, well, yeah Like i've got timber joining in the.

617
00:34:59,495 --> 00:35:03,975
Speaker 14: Seventies so you can just picture a six pane glass

618
00:35:06,375 --> 00:35:09,695
Speaker 14: opening windows on each. Side that's the ones with the

619
00:35:09,775 --> 00:35:13,455
Speaker 14: two opening windows above each. Other, yes so you got

620
00:35:13,535 --> 00:35:15,335
Speaker 14: the opening window at the bottom open window at the.

621
00:35:15,375 --> 00:35:20,735
Speaker 4: Top, yeah with friction stays on the, side, yes those little, yeah.

622
00:35:20,695 --> 00:35:25,095
Speaker 14: Yeah so and then so betwe in between the windows

623
00:35:25,415 --> 00:35:28,455
Speaker 14: of the big, pane you've got a million but that

624
00:35:28,615 --> 00:35:30,975
Speaker 14: goes up and then it's then there's another one on

625
00:35:31,055 --> 00:35:33,375
Speaker 14: each side of the of the big. Windows you've got

626
00:35:33,455 --> 00:35:38,135
Speaker 14: a gap get from between the timbers. There SO i

627
00:35:38,255 --> 00:35:41,015
Speaker 14: think it's split or not, split but it's just let go.

628
00:35:41,135 --> 00:35:47,975
Speaker 14: On their rain's been getting. In i've repaired the actual

629
00:35:48,015 --> 00:35:51,215
Speaker 14: bottom part of the main, window the fixed. Window i've

630
00:35:51,255 --> 00:35:54,935
Speaker 14: repaired that. Before but, yeah the other Day i've just

631
00:35:55,055 --> 00:35:58,495
Speaker 14: dugged out from the outside of the, building dug it.

632
00:35:58,575 --> 00:36:00,815
Speaker 14: OUT i, mean of course it's rotten all the way

633
00:36:00,855 --> 00:36:06,215
Speaker 14: along that panel the. Wind it's only up about probably

634
00:36:06,735 --> 00:36:10,815
Speaker 14: say fifteen fifteen twenty mills. Up it's all rotten. There

635
00:36:11,615 --> 00:36:15,695
Speaker 14: the top where the fixed paint is putting on is quite.

636
00:36:15,855 --> 00:36:20,335
Speaker 14: Sound so, Yes i've doug dug all the the rotten

637
00:36:20,655 --> 00:36:23,495
Speaker 14: that out right along the. Bottom so like, You, Yes

638
00:36:23,575 --> 00:36:25,935
Speaker 14: i'm going To i'm going to put in a treated

639
00:36:26,015 --> 00:36:30,615
Speaker 14: pine et de con timber itself as. Well i'm going

640
00:36:30,655 --> 00:36:33,175
Speaker 14: to put a strip of that along and gluid in.

641
00:36:33,615 --> 00:36:37,575
Speaker 14: Yep So i'm just wanting to know something like some some.

642
00:36:37,775 --> 00:36:40,615
Speaker 14: Products so at the moment it's all, Open i've dug

643
00:36:40,735 --> 00:36:42,415
Speaker 14: it well that it's all, open And i've sealed it

644
00:36:42,495 --> 00:36:42,735
Speaker 14: off with.

645
00:36:42,855 --> 00:36:47,895
Speaker 4: That the spray wood seiler oh, yes good, yep, great

646
00:36:48,135 --> 00:36:49,095
Speaker 4: hard and hard in the.

647
00:36:49,135 --> 00:36:49,535
Speaker 14: Fibers.

648
00:36:49,695 --> 00:36:50,095
Speaker 4: Excellent.

649
00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:53,095
Speaker 14: Yep i've just payed it, yesterday so it's twenty four

650
00:36:53,175 --> 00:36:57,615
Speaker 14: hour things BEFORE i start getting right into it. Today so,

651
00:36:57,775 --> 00:37:00,775
Speaker 14: YEAH i have been using on the other. Window it's

652
00:37:00,855 --> 00:37:05,255
Speaker 14: just small. Repair they ate us to pack a posy.

653
00:37:05,335 --> 00:37:05,655
Speaker 9: Glue.

654
00:37:05,775 --> 00:37:09,935
Speaker 14: Yep i've actually glued the timber and the fat and

655
00:37:10,055 --> 00:37:11,935
Speaker 14: then sort of just finished it off of the builders.

656
00:37:11,975 --> 00:37:12,215
Speaker 10: Bog.

657
00:37:13,695 --> 00:37:15,095
Speaker 4: Yes, yes.

658
00:37:16,935 --> 00:37:18,735
Speaker 9: Is that the creek the?

659
00:37:18,895 --> 00:37:21,535
Speaker 14: Two, YEAH i think, So.

660
00:37:23,015 --> 00:37:27,455
Speaker 4: And there's a couple of them around so there's actually

661
00:37:27,455 --> 00:37:29,135
Speaker 4: the one that's sitting on my shelf happens to be

662
00:37:29,215 --> 00:37:32,215
Speaker 4: A crc. One that's only because that's what was available

663
00:37:32,335 --> 00:37:36,375
Speaker 4: at my. Local so, yeah two pot of poxy's really good.

664
00:37:36,455 --> 00:37:41,975
Speaker 4: Idea you've used some sort of timber preservative timber, hardener

665
00:37:42,135 --> 00:37:45,815
Speaker 4: which is a great. Idea the patches obviously are going

666
00:37:45,895 --> 00:37:48,615
Speaker 4: to be at least h three point two, treated so

667
00:37:48,815 --> 00:37:54,175
Speaker 4: C c a treatment and then you can use builders.

668
00:37:54,215 --> 00:37:56,335
Speaker 4: Bog there are a couple of other types as. Well

669
00:37:56,775 --> 00:37:59,015
Speaker 4: you know that builders bog you can only use on beer.

670
00:37:59,135 --> 00:38:02,535
Speaker 4: TIMBER a you can't use builders bog on timber that's being. Painted,

671
00:38:03,055 --> 00:38:04,655
Speaker 4: okay that's.

672
00:38:04,735 --> 00:38:09,775
Speaker 14: Cool there is waterproof as the epoxy as a waterproof.

673
00:38:10,975 --> 00:38:11,135
Speaker 13: More.

674
00:38:11,495 --> 00:38:14,655
Speaker 4: Yeah funnily, ENOUGH i was talking to my chippy THAT

675
00:38:14,695 --> 00:38:19,095
Speaker 4: i know who put me onto another an epoxy, filler

676
00:38:19,695 --> 00:38:21,895
Speaker 4: WHICH i use for the first. Time i've never used it,

677
00:38:21,975 --> 00:38:26,975
Speaker 4: before and it actually what if you can be? Bothered

678
00:38:27,375 --> 00:38:30,175
Speaker 4: have a look on My instagram. PAGE i now that

679
00:38:30,255 --> 00:38:32,695
Speaker 4: the decking's been laid, DOWN i filled all of the

680
00:38:32,815 --> 00:38:37,095
Speaker 4: screw holes we use those screws to AND i went

681
00:38:37,135 --> 00:38:39,415
Speaker 4: and bought a box of five hundred, screws thinking that'll be.

682
00:38:39,575 --> 00:38:42,255
Speaker 4: Enough BUT i WHEN i was doing the, CALCULATIONS i

683
00:38:42,335 --> 00:38:44,335
Speaker 4: did it from memory AND i thought it's five, joys

684
00:38:44,375 --> 00:38:46,695
Speaker 4: but it was. Seven so we ended up using about

685
00:38:46,775 --> 00:38:49,975
Speaker 4: six hundred and seventy jolt screws right to fix the decking.

686
00:38:50,055 --> 00:38:52,815
Speaker 4: Down so my job the other day was filling those

687
00:38:52,855 --> 00:38:56,815
Speaker 4: six hundred and seventy sort of three millimeter nail or

688
00:38:56,935 --> 00:39:02,095
Speaker 4: screw holes with this two pot epoxy filler and my

689
00:39:02,295 --> 00:39:04,655
Speaker 4: job Today actually this Is i'm going to ask your

690
00:39:04,655 --> 00:39:07,135
Speaker 4: permission for. This is it okay to use a sander

691
00:39:07,335 --> 00:39:12,015
Speaker 4: on A? Sunday, yeah of, course, Excellent thank, you thank.

692
00:39:12,095 --> 00:39:17,535
Speaker 4: You that makes me feel better, Anyway SO i suppose, yeah,

693
00:39:17,575 --> 00:39:19,575
Speaker 4: perfect all, Right, no, No i'll go, home go to

694
00:39:19,655 --> 00:39:21,695
Speaker 4: mass and Then i'll get stuck into. It, then SO

695
00:39:22,575 --> 00:39:26,335
Speaker 4: i for your. Job THEN i think you can use

696
00:39:26,375 --> 00:39:28,855
Speaker 4: the bog maybe you look for some a POxy filler as,

697
00:39:28,895 --> 00:39:33,935
Speaker 4: well and then oil based primer oil based primer. First but,

698
00:39:34,295 --> 00:39:37,375
Speaker 4: interesting if you're going to finish with a water born,

699
00:39:38,015 --> 00:39:41,575
Speaker 4: enamel which is quite good for exterior, joinery do the

700
00:39:41,655 --> 00:39:44,735
Speaker 4: oil based sealer oil based, primer and then go over

701
00:39:44,775 --> 00:39:48,375
Speaker 4: the top with like quick, dry which is the water born.

702
00:39:48,495 --> 00:39:51,575
Speaker 4: Primer but the bond between the two is really, good

703
00:39:51,935 --> 00:39:53,695
Speaker 4: and then you can bring it up from. There, LOOK

704
00:39:53,895 --> 00:39:55,935
Speaker 4: i think you've cracked, It. DOUG i think you're doing

705
00:39:56,015 --> 00:39:59,415
Speaker 4: exactly the right. Thing this is when sharp chisels are your,

706
00:39:59,495 --> 00:40:02,655
Speaker 4: friend right for fetching out the last of, that shaping

707
00:40:02,775 --> 00:40:04,655
Speaker 4: up a piece of, timber putting it in with the,

708
00:40:04,735 --> 00:40:08,095
Speaker 4: epoxy dressing it, off and then get straight in with

709
00:40:08,215 --> 00:40:12,895
Speaker 4: the top coat and the other thing that this resonates

710
00:40:12,935 --> 00:40:16,975
Speaker 4: with me about this conversation is we forget that paint

711
00:40:17,375 --> 00:40:20,775
Speaker 4: is really important for protecting our. Joinery And i'm guilty

712
00:40:20,815 --> 00:40:22,815
Speaker 4: of that Because i'm going around the house now scraping

713
00:40:22,895 --> 00:40:25,615
Speaker 4: back loose paint trying to fix up a whole lot of. Things,

714
00:40:25,735 --> 00:40:32,335
Speaker 4: Right but a really good intact paint coating protects the

715
00:40:32,455 --> 00:40:37,295
Speaker 4: joinery and weather boards and, timber exterior trims and details and,

716
00:40:37,375 --> 00:40:39,855
Speaker 4: that so that you've really got to stay on top

717
00:40:39,895 --> 00:40:42,575
Speaker 4: of the of the. Painting it sounds like you. Will but, hey,

718
00:40:42,615 --> 00:40:44,935
Speaker 4: LOOK i think you're onto, it AND i think if

719
00:40:44,975 --> 00:40:47,295
Speaker 4: you get in the, zone this work is actually quite.

720
00:40:47,415 --> 00:40:48,175
Speaker 4: Nice you know WHAT i?

721
00:40:48,295 --> 00:40:51,575
Speaker 14: Mean, yeah it's not there he. Is, yes you know

722
00:40:51,655 --> 00:40:53,095
Speaker 14: you can't so they get away from the sun on

723
00:40:53,175 --> 00:40:53,455
Speaker 14: the sun.

724
00:40:53,535 --> 00:40:56,215
Speaker 4: Boat yeah all, right it sounds like you're into. It

725
00:40:56,735 --> 00:41:01,095
Speaker 4: enjoy your, Day, doug and really lovely chatting with. YOU i,

726
00:41:01,175 --> 00:41:04,095
Speaker 4: well now That i've got his, permission BECAUSE i was slightly,

727
00:41:04,175 --> 00:41:07,455
Speaker 4: conflicted to be, fair Because I've i've got all this

728
00:41:07,575 --> 00:41:10,695
Speaker 4: filler and it's had twenty four hours to. HARDEN i

729
00:41:10,855 --> 00:41:13,775
Speaker 4: know that there's some bad weather coming AND i don't

730
00:41:13,935 --> 00:41:15,575
Speaker 4: all the good work that we've done over the last

731
00:41:15,615 --> 00:41:17,695
Speaker 4: couple of. DAYS i don't want to ruin it by

732
00:41:17,815 --> 00:41:21,735
Speaker 4: having water on the deck before it's, Painted So i'm

733
00:41:21,775 --> 00:41:25,255
Speaker 4: going to sand. TODAY i know you're not my, neighbors

734
00:41:25,335 --> 00:41:27,215
Speaker 4: But i'm kind of just telling you That i'm going

735
00:41:27,295 --> 00:41:30,215
Speaker 4: to be making some noise around my, Place, rightio let's

736
00:41:30,255 --> 00:41:32,495
Speaker 4: get back into it straight After New sport And. Weather

737
00:41:32,615 --> 00:41:33,775
Speaker 4: top of The air at, seven.

738
00:41:34,815 --> 00:41:38,695
Speaker 1: Helping you get THOSE diy projects done. Right The Resident

739
00:41:38,775 --> 00:41:42,935
Speaker 1: builder With Vita wolfcats, Call oh eight eight you've talked.

740
00:41:44,095 --> 00:41:47,255
Speaker 4: Radio lovely to be with you again on This sunday,

741
00:41:47,415 --> 00:41:51,975
Speaker 4: morning thirteenth Of, April Palm sunday actually and a week

742
00:41:52,015 --> 00:41:55,415
Speaker 4: away From easter next, weekend which will be lovely next.

743
00:41:55,455 --> 00:41:57,335
Speaker 4: Weekend of Course i'll come and do the show On

744
00:41:57,415 --> 00:42:02,015
Speaker 4: sunday and it'll be ad. Free there you, go that'll be, interesting.

745
00:42:03,055 --> 00:42:08,415
Speaker 4: Right we are talking all things, building construction, tools, products, contractors,

746
00:42:09,175 --> 00:42:15,695
Speaker 4: legislation building, consents building consent, fees code, compliance, certificates anything

747
00:42:15,815 --> 00:42:17,975
Speaker 4: that's on your. Mind oh eight hundred and eighty ten

748
00:42:18,095 --> 00:42:20,295
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to. CALL i happen to mention

749
00:42:20,535 --> 00:42:23,535
Speaker 4: a little project THAT i was doing yesterday WHERE i

750
00:42:23,615 --> 00:42:27,615
Speaker 4: needed to, WELL i need to just take a sliver

751
00:42:27,735 --> 00:42:31,055
Speaker 4: of timber off a tongue THAT i created to go

752
00:42:31,255 --> 00:42:33,815
Speaker 4: into the, rebate into the groove of a tongue in groove.

753
00:42:33,855 --> 00:42:36,735
Speaker 4: Board blah blah. Blah and pulled out an old tool

754
00:42:36,775 --> 00:42:39,055
Speaker 4: that sat in one of my toolboxes FOR i don't

755
00:42:39,055 --> 00:42:40,735
Speaker 4: know how Long i've had it, for AND i really

756
00:42:40,775 --> 00:42:42,695
Speaker 4: don't know how old it, is but it was an

757
00:42:42,695 --> 00:42:44,975
Speaker 4: old rebate. PLANE i thought i'd better get the right.

758
00:42:45,055 --> 00:42:47,215
Speaker 4: Name SO i found this website with all these vintage,

759
00:42:47,255 --> 00:42:50,295
Speaker 4: tools And i'm, like, m MAYBE i need one of.

760
00:42:50,375 --> 00:42:52,615
Speaker 4: Those MAYBE i need one of. THOSE i don't need

761
00:42:52,735 --> 00:42:55,175
Speaker 4: any of, them of, course but having it and having

762
00:42:55,215 --> 00:42:57,855
Speaker 4: the right tool for the right job makes a massive

763
00:42:57,855 --> 00:43:00,175
Speaker 4: amount of. Difference so no. Regrets. There someone's text, Through,

764
00:43:00,215 --> 00:43:04,135
Speaker 4: Hey i've got an old wolf. Drill, YES i like,

765
00:43:04,215 --> 00:43:07,775
Speaker 4: that an old wolf drill that was my great grandfather's

766
00:43:07,815 --> 00:43:10,175
Speaker 4: And i'm. FIFTY i think it dates back to the nineteen.

767
00:43:10,215 --> 00:43:12,695
Speaker 4: Fifties takes about five seconds to stop when you take your,

768
00:43:12,735 --> 00:43:15,335
Speaker 4: trigger your finger off the. TRIGGER i THINK i know those.

769
00:43:15,415 --> 00:43:18,095
Speaker 4: Ones in, fact we might have had one in the

770
00:43:18,175 --> 00:43:20,295
Speaker 4: workshop or something like that back in the. Day so

771
00:43:20,375 --> 00:43:25,935
Speaker 4: it's an old power tool of course talking about sanding palm. Sander,

772
00:43:26,095 --> 00:43:30,095
Speaker 4: No i'll be random. ORBITAL i think today to send

773
00:43:30,135 --> 00:43:33,895
Speaker 4: off all the. Filler in, fact if you want to

774
00:43:33,935 --> 00:43:36,495
Speaker 4: see a photover, that just check out My instagram page

775
00:43:36,535 --> 00:43:39,255
Speaker 4: to just search resident builder On. Instagram AND i think

776
00:43:39,295 --> 00:43:41,455
Speaker 4: the most recent PHOTO i put up was the deck

777
00:43:41,535 --> 00:43:43,255
Speaker 4: with all of the. Filler that's What i've got to

778
00:43:43,255 --> 00:43:45,255
Speaker 4: stand off. Today Then i'll get a coat of primer on.

779
00:43:45,335 --> 00:43:47,215
Speaker 4: Today then i'll go Actually i'm going to go To

780
00:43:47,335 --> 00:43:50,015
Speaker 4: razine later on, today pick up some top. Coat get

781
00:43:50,095 --> 00:43:53,295
Speaker 4: that on before the weather hits On. Wednesday, john what

782
00:43:53,615 --> 00:43:56,055
Speaker 4: it speaking about? Weather talk to me about your. Roof

783
00:43:56,095 --> 00:43:56,375
Speaker 4: how are you?

784
00:43:56,415 --> 00:44:03,415
Speaker 9: Doing? Yeah, Good opet listening to all those quite interesting

785
00:44:04,095 --> 00:44:05,215
Speaker 9: issues that people had a.

786
00:44:05,215 --> 00:44:07,535
Speaker 4: Little bit, more oh not at, all rusally.

787
00:44:07,695 --> 00:44:07,935
Speaker 11: Great.

788
00:44:09,055 --> 00:44:12,975
Speaker 9: Yeah, Look i've got a pretty big shed out in the.

789
00:44:13,015 --> 00:44:18,095
Speaker 9: Back it's a half round about twenty five meters long or,

790
00:44:18,135 --> 00:44:23,535
Speaker 9: so and it's had like a gin car garage, extension

791
00:44:23,575 --> 00:44:26,415
Speaker 9: that's WHAT i call. It, anyway it's sloping sort of

792
00:44:27,415 --> 00:44:30,655
Speaker 9: roof that joined on to the side of. It probably

793
00:44:30,695 --> 00:44:35,615
Speaker 9: at construction it was built like that as possibly what

794
00:44:35,935 --> 00:44:39,575
Speaker 9: was then the most cost effective way to create a big.

795
00:44:39,735 --> 00:44:45,335
Speaker 9: Shed floor. Space so the ISSUE i have is where

796
00:44:45,415 --> 00:44:49,735
Speaker 9: that where that sloping roof that joins the half, Round

797
00:44:50,415 --> 00:44:56,055
Speaker 9: i've got about five or, six, yeah mucky little leaking

798
00:44:56,215 --> 00:44:58,615
Speaker 9: spots that just sprout up every now and again when

799
00:44:58,655 --> 00:45:01,415
Speaker 9: you get a reasonable amount of brain and blown it

800
00:45:01,535 --> 00:45:06,215
Speaker 9: from the right. Way and you, know there's no WAY

801
00:45:06,375 --> 00:45:09,015
Speaker 9: i can identify up on the top of the roof

802
00:45:09,055 --> 00:45:14,975
Speaker 9: anything wrong with that where that join, is And i'm

803
00:45:15,455 --> 00:45:18,895
Speaker 9: my plan really is and you know obviously THAT i

804
00:45:18,975 --> 00:45:21,335
Speaker 9: guess water might be traveling a little, bit so wherever

805
00:45:21,415 --> 00:45:26,215
Speaker 9: it's leaking inside is not exactly the right. Spot, yes, yes,

806
00:45:27,295 --> 00:45:30,415
Speaker 9: yeah So i'm thinking Of i'm probably gonna have to

807
00:45:30,495 --> 00:45:39,175
Speaker 9: get a bucket of maybe black. Whatever, yeah and and

808
00:45:39,335 --> 00:45:44,055
Speaker 9: basically spatula on all the way along that, join just

809
00:45:44,175 --> 00:45:47,775
Speaker 9: to be kind of absolutely Sure i'm certaining that OFTEN

810
00:45:48,175 --> 00:45:49,775
Speaker 9: i thought i'd just give you a ball in case

811
00:45:49,815 --> 00:45:55,935
Speaker 9: there's a you, know SOMETHING i should rather than just

812
00:45:56,015 --> 00:45:56,535
Speaker 9: slapping her.

813
00:45:56,575 --> 00:45:56,855
Speaker 13: On and.

814
00:45:58,535 --> 00:45:58,935
Speaker 1: So the.

815
00:46:00,895 --> 00:46:03,095
Speaker 4: First UP i have to, declare you, know WHEN i

816
00:46:03,215 --> 00:46:05,935
Speaker 4: talk to people like yourself and they talk about sheds

817
00:46:05,975 --> 00:46:08,255
Speaker 4: that are you, know ten meters, long twenty meters, LONG

818
00:46:08,375 --> 00:46:11,695
Speaker 4: i do get a serious case of shed. Envy So

819
00:46:11,735 --> 00:46:14,615
Speaker 4: i'll declare that first and then then we'll go on

820
00:46:14,655 --> 00:46:16,455
Speaker 4: to talk About so when you say it's a half,

821
00:46:16,535 --> 00:46:20,415
Speaker 4: round as it's a curved, surface so the sheets are

822
00:46:20,495 --> 00:46:25,175
Speaker 4: curved over the tresses or over the rafters to do, that.

823
00:46:25,975 --> 00:46:26,295
Speaker 11: Right.

824
00:46:27,935 --> 00:46:30,295
Speaker 4: What happens at the ridge OR i know there's no.

825
00:46:30,895 --> 00:46:33,775
Speaker 4: Ridge what happens at the top? Curve how is that

826
00:46:33,975 --> 00:46:40,295
Speaker 4: dressed off or the just the top sheet sort of

827
00:46:40,335 --> 00:46:41,055
Speaker 4: extends right?

828
00:46:41,135 --> 00:46:45,935
Speaker 9: Over, yeah, yeah, there there's it's quite you, know the

829
00:46:46,295 --> 00:46:50,295
Speaker 9: leaks are ALL i suppose And i've bit a, bit you,

830
00:46:50,335 --> 00:46:52,815
Speaker 9: know because of the shape of it actually been up

831
00:46:52,855 --> 00:46:55,055
Speaker 9: on the top half on the on the, curve but

832
00:46:55,215 --> 00:47:00,015
Speaker 9: the the leaks are all definitely right on the on

833
00:47:00,215 --> 00:47:06,015
Speaker 9: the joint of the sloping. Part it's, yes sort, OF

834
00:47:06,455 --> 00:47:10,935
Speaker 9: i mean that sloping parts about the same area as

835
00:47:11,215 --> 00:47:13,855
Speaker 9: what the half round takes, up which is about it's

836
00:47:13,895 --> 00:47:16,935
Speaker 9: got enough space to park ten cars in that extension

837
00:47:18,375 --> 00:47:21,095
Speaker 9: that comes off the half. Round, yeah so it's you,

838
00:47:21,175 --> 00:47:26,655
Speaker 9: know it's a sort of. Area but and it looks

839
00:47:26,775 --> 00:47:29,535
Speaker 9: nice and it looks like it's been done Or i'm

840
00:47:29,575 --> 00:47:32,175
Speaker 9: sure it has been done as professionally as it could

841
00:47:32,215 --> 00:47:32,655
Speaker 9: have been at the.

842
00:47:32,695 --> 00:47:37,975
Speaker 4: Time, yeah, sure THERE i wonder whether you take a

843
00:47:38,015 --> 00:47:42,775
Speaker 4: step back and go rather than sort of attack a

844
00:47:43,015 --> 00:47:45,255
Speaker 4: general area and the hope that you're going to find the.

845
00:47:45,375 --> 00:47:47,855
Speaker 4: Leak what about if you can get someone to come

846
00:47:47,935 --> 00:47:51,615
Speaker 4: over with a, hose and if you're able to direct

847
00:47:51,735 --> 00:47:54,935
Speaker 4: water into the area where you think the leak's coming,

848
00:47:54,975 --> 00:47:57,855
Speaker 4: from try and make it leak before you fix the, leak,

849
00:47:58,535 --> 00:48:01,535
Speaker 4: Right and that'll give you a bit more of a targeted,

850
00:48:01,575 --> 00:48:04,215
Speaker 4: approach because you're. Right what you might, find in, fact

851
00:48:04,375 --> 00:48:06,175
Speaker 4: is the leak is two or three meters away from

852
00:48:06,295 --> 00:48:08,055
Speaker 4: where you see it on the inside of the, building

853
00:48:08,135 --> 00:48:10,495
Speaker 4: in which, case if you fix one area and then

854
00:48:10,495 --> 00:48:13,175
Speaker 4: you might find that it's still. Leaks so given that

855
00:48:13,215 --> 00:48:15,095
Speaker 4: we've got some dry weather at the, moment that might

856
00:48:15,135 --> 00:48:19,855
Speaker 4: be a good. Idea you, know if there's an, overlap for,

857
00:48:19,975 --> 00:48:24,935
Speaker 4: example then that should effectively self. Seal, Right so, water

858
00:48:25,495 --> 00:48:29,655
Speaker 4: unless it's being driven in by the, wind typically won't

859
00:48:29,735 --> 00:48:34,695
Speaker 4: track backwards that. Much so because the other CONCERN i

860
00:48:34,815 --> 00:48:37,655
Speaker 4: have sometimes around sort of just willy nilly use of

861
00:48:37,775 --> 00:48:39,455
Speaker 4: sealants and all the rest of it is you can

862
00:48:39,535 --> 00:48:43,255
Speaker 4: create dams which prevent water draining. Out, so for, example

863
00:48:43,295 --> 00:48:46,255
Speaker 4: if you were to seal the underside of your lap

864
00:48:46,375 --> 00:48:49,575
Speaker 4: there and water was getting in somewhere else and draining out,

865
00:48:49,655 --> 00:48:53,775
Speaker 4: there you've effectively created a. Dam and THEN i guess

866
00:48:53,815 --> 00:48:56,975
Speaker 4: there's two. Approaches one is to use just roofing silicon

867
00:48:57,255 --> 00:49:00,055
Speaker 4: to try and seal where you think there might be

868
00:49:00,335 --> 00:49:02,695
Speaker 4: an opening or a. Gap the other one is to

869
00:49:02,815 --> 00:49:07,015
Speaker 4: apply like a brush on membrane over an, area so

870
00:49:07,575 --> 00:49:10,495
Speaker 4: maybe the sheet is getting a bit, thin or there's

871
00:49:10,495 --> 00:49:12,175
Speaker 4: a little bit of rust or something like, that you'll

872
00:49:12,215 --> 00:49:14,975
Speaker 4: be able to extend the. Life BUT i guess, too

873
00:49:15,055 --> 00:49:18,615
Speaker 4: the other thing, is you, know given the age of

874
00:49:18,655 --> 00:49:20,135
Speaker 4: the building and all the rest of, it are you

875
00:49:20,415 --> 00:49:23,415
Speaker 4: just kind of holding off the, inevitable which is at

876
00:49:23,495 --> 00:49:25,535
Speaker 4: some stage you're probably going to need to Reroof and

877
00:49:25,895 --> 00:49:27,655
Speaker 4: a curved reroof is going to be a little bit,

878
00:49:27,735 --> 00:49:28,375
Speaker 4: challenging isn't.

879
00:49:28,415 --> 00:49:37,575
Speaker 9: It, Yeah, YEAH i think it's a good suggestion ABOUT

880
00:49:38,575 --> 00:49:40,815
Speaker 9: i should have thought of. It running some water over

881
00:49:41,415 --> 00:49:42,575
Speaker 9: certain areas that.

882
00:49:45,095 --> 00:49:46,695
Speaker 4: Have, it go at that first and just kind of

883
00:49:46,775 --> 00:49:49,775
Speaker 4: target the repair people are, saying, look you, know it

884
00:49:49,935 --> 00:49:53,535
Speaker 4: might be the. Fixings so if it's a fixing that's come,

885
00:49:53,655 --> 00:49:57,655
Speaker 4: loose is it timber pearlins that the iron is fixed,

886
00:49:57,655 --> 00:49:59,495
Speaker 4: to or is it metal pearlins.

887
00:50:00,735 --> 00:50:01,215
Speaker 8: On the half.

888
00:50:01,295 --> 00:50:04,415
Speaker 9: Rounds it's on the half round it's metal purlms right

889
00:50:05,975 --> 00:50:10,695
Speaker 9: and the, yeah and then it's timber on the.

890
00:50:10,775 --> 00:50:14,015
Speaker 4: Extension on the extension see. Again you know in that

891
00:50:14,175 --> 00:50:16,975
Speaker 4: case metal. Ones you might find that some of the

892
00:50:17,055 --> 00:50:19,935
Speaker 4: fixings have started to come, loose in which case you

893
00:50:20,095 --> 00:50:22,055
Speaker 4: need very. Carefully you need to get up on the,

894
00:50:22,175 --> 00:50:25,775
Speaker 4: roof maybe take out some of those fixings and of

895
00:50:25,855 --> 00:50:28,135
Speaker 4: course you'll have to screw new fixings, in but you

896
00:50:28,295 --> 00:50:29,095
Speaker 4: might want to step.

897
00:50:29,215 --> 00:50:29,615
Speaker 9: Up you.

898
00:50:29,695 --> 00:50:31,655
Speaker 4: Know if it's let's say it was an eight gauge,

899
00:50:31,695 --> 00:50:34,055
Speaker 4: screw you go to a ten gauge screw so it'll

900
00:50:34,095 --> 00:50:38,175
Speaker 4: bind in with a knee pren washer underneath. It, yeah

901
00:50:38,415 --> 00:50:40,175
Speaker 4: that sounds like it's a little bit of work to. Do,

902
00:50:41,495 --> 00:50:45,735
Speaker 4: yeah but, LOOK i think have a look at trying

903
00:50:45,775 --> 00:50:48,255
Speaker 4: to make it leak, first so you know exactly it's

904
00:50:48,255 --> 00:50:49,935
Speaker 4: a big. Roof you don't want to be working in

905
00:50:50,015 --> 00:50:53,055
Speaker 4: an area that's not. Effective have a crack at that.

906
00:50:53,175 --> 00:50:56,295
Speaker 4: First good, luck AND i WILL i will go back

907
00:50:56,335 --> 00:51:00,415
Speaker 4: to my three meter by six meter garage and think

908
00:51:00,815 --> 00:51:03,855
Speaker 4: longingly of a large shed like. Yours. John thank you very, Much,

909
00:51:03,935 --> 00:51:04,775
Speaker 4: David good morning to.

910
00:51:04,815 --> 00:51:06,455
Speaker 11: You good.

911
00:51:06,495 --> 00:51:07,055
Speaker 15: Morning how are?

912
00:51:07,095 --> 00:51:08,815
Speaker 4: You, Hey i'm very, good thank, you and.

913
00:51:08,895 --> 00:51:10,575
Speaker 8: You not too?

914
00:51:10,615 --> 00:51:11,055
Speaker 11: Bad not too?

915
00:51:11,095 --> 00:51:11,735
Speaker 4: Bad day?

916
00:51:11,775 --> 00:51:12,495
Speaker 15: Here and then they.

917
00:51:12,775 --> 00:51:13,495
Speaker 4: Beautiful go for.

918
00:51:13,575 --> 00:51:17,175
Speaker 15: It i've got A i'm attaching a fold out washing

919
00:51:17,255 --> 00:51:20,855
Speaker 15: lines to my. House, yes And i've drilled the the

920
00:51:21,175 --> 00:51:25,175
Speaker 15: attachments brackets onto the. Wall WHEN i put one of them,

921
00:51:25,255 --> 00:51:30,695
Speaker 15: in So i'm getting an engine masonry. Anchor one of

922
00:51:30,735 --> 00:51:33,695
Speaker 15: them holds really, well but the other one basically the

923
00:51:33,815 --> 00:51:37,375
Speaker 15: bolt is pulled straight out, Yep And i'm wondering whether

924
00:51:37,455 --> 00:51:40,095
Speaker 15: the brick scott holes in, it and then.

925
00:51:40,095 --> 00:51:40,855
Speaker 11: How DO i resolve?

926
00:51:40,935 --> 00:51:45,135
Speaker 4: That, OKAY i think you got lucky with the first,

927
00:51:45,215 --> 00:51:48,015
Speaker 4: one and what's happened with the second one is kind

928
00:51:48,015 --> 00:51:50,655
Speaker 4: of WHAT i would. Expect SO i think for those,

929
00:51:50,735 --> 00:51:54,735
Speaker 4: instances if you, CAN i would get you can buy

930
00:51:54,775 --> 00:51:57,455
Speaker 4: a small tube a half tube of a product called bolt,

931
00:51:57,535 --> 00:52:00,655
Speaker 4: fix which is it mixes in a tube and it's

932
00:52:01,255 --> 00:52:06,015
Speaker 4: an adhesive for anchoring steel fixings into. Concrete SO i

933
00:52:06,695 --> 00:52:10,295
Speaker 4: and then find either a bit of stainless steel threaded

934
00:52:10,415 --> 00:52:14,455
Speaker 4: rod or possibly even a stainless steel bolt or something like,

935
00:52:14,535 --> 00:52:17,375
Speaker 4: that take the old fixing, out maybe even drill the

936
00:52:17,415 --> 00:52:21,295
Speaker 4: whole out slightly, bigger apply the bolt fix into there

937
00:52:21,335 --> 00:52:24,975
Speaker 4: the adhesive and then bed in a bit of stainless

938
00:52:24,975 --> 00:52:28,135
Speaker 4: steel threaded rod to the right depth with enough poking

939
00:52:28,215 --> 00:52:30,135
Speaker 4: out to get the fixing and a nut on. It

940
00:52:31,055 --> 00:52:33,055
Speaker 4: let that seat for a couple of hours and then

941
00:52:33,135 --> 00:52:35,775
Speaker 4: hang it on, there and that will fill the void

942
00:52:35,895 --> 00:52:39,095
Speaker 4: that's in the. Brick it'll give you a really solid,

943
00:52:39,215 --> 00:52:42,375
Speaker 4: anchor and you'll find that that washing line will stay

944
00:52:42,415 --> 00:52:43,175
Speaker 4: there basically.

945
00:52:43,295 --> 00:52:48,935
Speaker 15: Forever and is there any how to get the masonry anchor?

946
00:52:49,055 --> 00:52:49,255
Speaker 9: Out?

947
00:52:50,015 --> 00:52:50,935
Speaker 4: Ah, okay is?

948
00:52:51,015 --> 00:52:51,055
Speaker 10: It?

949
00:52:51,895 --> 00:52:55,255
Speaker 4: Yes if? Often what you've got is you've got the

950
00:52:57,095 --> 00:52:59,895
Speaker 4: bolt part of the anchor which is threaded at one

951
00:53:00,055 --> 00:53:03,815
Speaker 4: end and then over that is a. Sleeve so if you,

952
00:53:04,055 --> 00:53:07,335
Speaker 4: can if you, can just reach the sleeve with a

953
00:53:07,415 --> 00:53:10,935
Speaker 4: pair of pliers and push the bolt back so that

954
00:53:11,175 --> 00:53:13,855
Speaker 4: the where it spreads out at the bottom is what

955
00:53:14,015 --> 00:53:17,175
Speaker 4: anchors the fixing in. Place, Right so you need to

956
00:53:17,255 --> 00:53:19,895
Speaker 4: push that back as far as possible without losing, it

957
00:53:20,295 --> 00:53:25,295
Speaker 4: and grab the sleeve and pull that. Forward, yeah all,

958
00:53:25,375 --> 00:53:27,175
Speaker 4: right good luck with.

959
00:53:27,215 --> 00:53:28,655
Speaker 14: That take.

960
00:53:28,735 --> 00:53:31,255
Speaker 4: There Thanks, david you with these. Books he'd be we're

961
00:53:31,255 --> 00:53:34,255
Speaker 4: talking all things building. Construction, trish good, morning.

962
00:53:35,455 --> 00:53:39,895
Speaker 7: Good. Morning i'm ringing about cracks in the outside wall

963
00:53:40,455 --> 00:53:45,175
Speaker 7: where the boards are. Joining my situation is THAT i

964
00:53:45,255 --> 00:53:49,655
Speaker 7: had already built, house moved on to a beach side

965
00:53:49,735 --> 00:53:53,815
Speaker 7: section about seven years, ago and within a short time

966
00:53:53,935 --> 00:53:59,335
Speaker 7: the doors would, open just drift. Open SO i contracted the.

967
00:53:59,655 --> 00:54:03,695
Speaker 7: Engineer he had a man come and check the, piles

968
00:54:03,855 --> 00:54:07,735
Speaker 7: but he said they were all, right, Yep and but

969
00:54:07,935 --> 00:54:08,575
Speaker 7: now there's.

970
00:54:08,495 --> 00:54:13,215
Speaker 4: Cracks the exterior of the. Building what's the.

971
00:54:13,255 --> 00:54:16,095
Speaker 9: Cladding, Yes, james hard is weather?

972
00:54:16,175 --> 00:54:19,175
Speaker 4: Board, okay so like linear or something, SIMILAR.

973
00:54:20,375 --> 00:54:20,735
Speaker 10: I don't.

974
00:54:20,775 --> 00:54:22,135
Speaker 11: Know so it's it's.

975
00:54:22,255 --> 00:54:26,055
Speaker 4: Weatherboard it's horizontal weatherboards laid lapping one over the. Other

976
00:54:26,415 --> 00:54:29,215
Speaker 4: and that's the only type of cladding that they've used

977
00:54:29,215 --> 00:54:32,015
Speaker 4: on the. Exterior. Okay and the gaps that you're talking

978
00:54:32,055 --> 00:54:36,015
Speaker 4: about appear between the lap between the you, know effectively

979
00:54:36,055 --> 00:54:37,615
Speaker 4: the bottom board and the one that laps over the.

980
00:54:37,695 --> 00:54:43,535
Speaker 4: Top we let they, joined, yeah, Okay so it's not

981
00:54:43,655 --> 00:54:47,455
Speaker 4: a weatherboard. Profile it's something where it's like a sheet

982
00:54:47,735 --> 00:54:52,135
Speaker 4: that has a joining, system like a rebate or something like,

983
00:54:52,215 --> 00:54:55,415
Speaker 4: that maybe tongue, group maybe just a ship. Lap and

984
00:54:55,575 --> 00:55:00,775
Speaker 4: it is a vertical or horizontal, horizontal it's, horizontal but

985
00:55:00,935 --> 00:55:04,575
Speaker 4: it's a sheet. Product, no, not what IF i worded it?

986
00:55:04,655 --> 00:55:09,895
Speaker 7: Right it just says on the respects that It's, Hardy

987
00:55:10,215 --> 00:55:15,695
Speaker 7: hardy with a Board frontier two four five Millimeter Hardy.

988
00:55:16,095 --> 00:55:20,815
Speaker 4: Frontier, okay is it painted a dark? Color?

989
00:55:21,855 --> 00:55:26,895
Speaker 7: No, no, No so my issue is is any moisture

990
00:55:26,935 --> 00:55:27,295
Speaker 7: getting in?

991
00:55:27,415 --> 00:55:28,415
Speaker 14: There WHICH i worry?

992
00:55:28,495 --> 00:55:31,775
Speaker 7: About and what are you if you're selling?

993
00:55:31,855 --> 00:55:33,535
Speaker 10: It do you declare all of?

994
00:55:33,655 --> 00:55:37,015
Speaker 7: This and also the building company who's been very good

995
00:55:37,095 --> 00:55:40,335
Speaker 7: now they're coming to talk to. Me see it's they're

996
00:55:40,455 --> 00:55:43,655
Speaker 7: saying spill it was. Silicine but really have to get

997
00:55:43,735 --> 00:55:46,575
Speaker 7: to know what the problem, is isn't it don't you?

998
00:55:46,695 --> 00:55:46,895
Speaker 13: Think?

999
00:55:48,255 --> 00:55:53,695
Speaker 4: YES i do think, so just repeat that is?

1000
00:55:53,775 --> 00:55:53,815
Speaker 6: It?

1001
00:55:54,055 --> 00:55:58,495
Speaker 4: James so it's definitely A hardy, product and it's A

1002
00:55:58,695 --> 00:56:08,575
Speaker 4: frontier FOUND i found it so effectively it is a

1003
00:56:08,615 --> 00:56:12,055
Speaker 4: weather board and it's got like a wood grain effect on. It,

1004
00:56:13,095 --> 00:56:16,055
Speaker 4: yeah that's. It and so when you say there's gaps

1005
00:56:16,135 --> 00:56:19,575
Speaker 4: between there is what you're seeing where perhaps there's been

1006
00:56:19,655 --> 00:56:22,295
Speaker 4: some movement and you can see where the boards have

1007
00:56:22,455 --> 00:56:26,335
Speaker 4: moved and it's an unpainted. Surface or are there gaps

1008
00:56:26,375 --> 00:56:30,415
Speaker 4: where you can see through and potentially see the building

1009
00:56:30,495 --> 00:56:31,415
Speaker 4: paper behind?

1010
00:56:31,495 --> 00:56:31,535
Speaker 10: It?

1011
00:56:32,615 --> 00:56:34,375
Speaker 9: No, no, no, okay dressed sick?

1012
00:56:34,415 --> 00:56:34,575
Speaker 8: Yet?

1013
00:56:34,735 --> 00:56:37,495
Speaker 7: Yeah and JUST i hold up a piece of string

1014
00:56:37,975 --> 00:56:40,495
Speaker 7: of that brown, string and it was about the similar

1015
00:56:40,615 --> 00:56:42,135
Speaker 7: depth of The.

1016
00:56:43,495 --> 00:56:46,095
Speaker 4: LOOK i think that the way the weather board works

1017
00:56:46,215 --> 00:56:48,895
Speaker 4: is there's obviously an, Overlap so there's part of the

1018
00:56:48,935 --> 00:56:52,975
Speaker 4: board that extends up and behind the overlap of the board.

1019
00:56:53,015 --> 00:56:56,935
Speaker 4: Above that's often around twenty, millimeters, Right so if there's

1020
00:56:56,975 --> 00:56:59,855
Speaker 4: a millimeter or a millimeter and a half of, movement

1021
00:57:00,055 --> 00:57:02,495
Speaker 4: it's not going to be impacting on the weather tightness

1022
00:57:02,535 --> 00:57:08,775
Speaker 4: of the. Building, yeah but you said that the product

1023
00:57:08,895 --> 00:57:12,655
Speaker 4: is is it applied vertically or is it a pride horizontally?

1024
00:57:12,935 --> 00:57:14,055
Speaker 9: Horizontal it is.

1025
00:57:14,095 --> 00:57:16,855
Speaker 4: Horizontal, okay that's all right. Now i'm just THINKING i

1026
00:57:16,975 --> 00:57:22,215
Speaker 4: SAW i won't go. There, LOOK i think that what

1027
00:57:22,335 --> 00:57:25,695
Speaker 4: you're getting is a certain amount of, movement which is

1028
00:57:26,175 --> 00:57:29,855
Speaker 4: probably is. Cosmetic i'm not actually a big fan of

1029
00:57:29,935 --> 00:57:33,615
Speaker 4: going along and sealing all of that up because you,

1030
00:57:33,695 --> 00:57:37,295
Speaker 4: know buildings, move, Right SO i think you're better off

1031
00:57:37,415 --> 00:57:39,375
Speaker 4: next time you go and paint, it just give it

1032
00:57:39,415 --> 00:57:41,895
Speaker 4: a really good coat of. Paint if you're worried about

1033
00:57:41,935 --> 00:57:44,415
Speaker 4: it from an esthetic point of, view if you know

1034
00:57:44,535 --> 00:57:46,375
Speaker 4: what the color, is you could go along and just

1035
00:57:46,495 --> 00:57:50,455
Speaker 4: touch up those. Areas from what you're telling, ME i

1036
00:57:50,575 --> 00:57:53,775
Speaker 4: don't think you've got any concerns about weather. Tightness it's

1037
00:57:53,815 --> 00:57:56,655
Speaker 4: a little bit of. Movement typically there's less movement with

1038
00:57:56,775 --> 00:57:59,535
Speaker 4: fiber cement than there might be with conventional weather boards

1039
00:57:59,575 --> 00:58:01,895
Speaker 4: because of the nature of the fiber. Cement but a

1040
00:58:01,975 --> 00:58:04,615
Speaker 4: little bit of movement in this, INSTANCE i wouldn't be terribly.

1041
00:58:05,135 --> 00:58:10,255
Speaker 4: Concerned Red all, RIGHT i love your. Program nice to

1042
00:58:10,335 --> 00:58:13,175
Speaker 4: talk with. You to take, Care, bobe all this to

1043
00:58:13,255 --> 00:58:15,295
Speaker 4: you right. Here we need to take a. Break it

1044
00:58:15,415 --> 00:58:18,495
Speaker 4: is twenty three minutes after. Seven if you'd like to join.

1045
00:58:18,575 --> 00:58:20,615
Speaker 4: Us the lines are. Open the number is eight hundred

1046
00:58:20,615 --> 00:58:27,135
Speaker 4: and eighty ten. EIGHTY a couple of good texts coming through.

1047
00:58:27,175 --> 00:58:29,295
Speaker 4: Too we'll talk about those in a moment as. Well

1048
00:58:29,615 --> 00:58:31,095
Speaker 4: lines are. Open love to hear from.

1049
00:58:31,015 --> 00:58:35,055
Speaker 1: You met it twice, gods but maybe Call pete first

1050
00:58:35,175 --> 00:58:37,455
Speaker 1: for You allcab The Resident Builder News.

1051
00:58:37,535 --> 00:58:40,615
Speaker 4: Talk sa'd be your News. Talks there'd be twenty seven

1052
00:58:40,815 --> 00:58:44,335
Speaker 4: almost twenty seven minutes after. Seven and remember we've Got

1053
00:58:44,455 --> 00:58:46,975
Speaker 4: rude at eight point thirty this morning talking all things

1054
00:58:47,055 --> 00:58:49,815
Speaker 4: gardening and the wonderful world of bugs as. Well quick

1055
00:58:49,855 --> 00:58:53,135
Speaker 4: couple of texts that have come. In pete does asbestos

1056
00:58:53,175 --> 00:58:56,415
Speaker 4: removal cost go to the, homeowner as in a pile

1057
00:58:56,615 --> 00:59:00,135
Speaker 4: in a, roof a tile roof of the, Sixties, DOUG

1058
00:59:00,495 --> 00:59:02,575
Speaker 4: i can't see who else would be responsible for. It

1059
00:59:02,655 --> 00:59:05,135
Speaker 4: if it's your house and you've got asbestos roof and

1060
00:59:05,255 --> 00:59:08,335
Speaker 4: you want to remove, it then, yes the cost is

1061
00:59:08,655 --> 00:59:13,615
Speaker 4: going to go to, you and it's not an inconsiderable cost.

1062
00:59:13,695 --> 00:59:16,135
Speaker 4: Too by the, Way, pete we're looking at a ten

1063
00:59:16,215 --> 00:59:19,055
Speaker 4: year old brick home with white efforescence showing on the

1064
00:59:19,175 --> 00:59:22,175
Speaker 4: red brown. Bricks is this a structural? Problem can it be?

1065
00:59:22,295 --> 00:59:26,655
Speaker 4: Removed the house is double. Glazed is ten year old

1066
00:59:26,735 --> 00:59:32,095
Speaker 4: double glazing reasonably? Effective? Still yes to that so, yeah

1067
00:59:32,175 --> 00:59:34,975
Speaker 4: ten year old double glazing will work almost as. Well

1068
00:59:35,415 --> 00:59:37,735
Speaker 4: so the only thing that might degrade with ten year

1069
00:59:37,775 --> 00:59:42,575
Speaker 4: old is the desiccond which absorbs moisture that might be

1070
00:59:42,735 --> 00:59:45,455
Speaker 4: in between the two panes of. Glass but apart from,

1071
00:59:45,495 --> 00:59:48,135
Speaker 4: that double glazing will continue to. Perform with regard to the,

1072
00:59:48,175 --> 00:59:53,855
Speaker 4: efforescence it's effectively salt that's in, masonry which with the

1073
00:59:53,935 --> 00:59:56,335
Speaker 4: presence of water might be drawn to the. Surface so

1074
00:59:56,575 --> 00:59:59,895
Speaker 4: it can be. Removed there's a couple of proprietary products

1075
00:59:59,935 --> 01:00:02,895
Speaker 4: that will get rid of, it and after a certain

1076
01:00:02,935 --> 01:00:07,175
Speaker 4: point it will ah sorry on you that one is.

1077
01:00:07,215 --> 01:00:11,255
Speaker 4: Coming excuse? Me so, yeah eff for. Estance yet you

1078
01:00:11,335 --> 01:00:14,415
Speaker 4: can remove it and, TYPICALLY i, mean it does indicate

1079
01:00:14,495 --> 01:00:16,615
Speaker 4: that there's some, moisture so you might want to you

1080
01:00:16,855 --> 01:00:20,135
Speaker 4: might want to investigate that a little bit, further but

1081
01:00:20,215 --> 01:00:24,335
Speaker 4: it's not. UNCOMMON a couple of people have commented on

1082
01:00:24,415 --> 01:00:28,175
Speaker 4: the main mark and the fact that it seems to

1083
01:00:28,215 --> 01:00:30,255
Speaker 4: have worked for, Them SO i can leave that as it. Is,

1084
01:00:30,975 --> 01:00:32,935
Speaker 4: Pete i'd like to restand our pine deck is it's

1085
01:00:32,935 --> 01:00:35,015
Speaker 4: starting to fade after five. Years can't remember if we

1086
01:00:35,095 --> 01:00:37,735
Speaker 4: used an oil based or a water based. Stain definitely

1087
01:00:37,815 --> 01:00:40,215
Speaker 4: not a penetrating oil. Based do we just redo it

1088
01:00:40,295 --> 01:00:43,375
Speaker 4: with a water based? Stain best bet would be to

1089
01:00:43,415 --> 01:00:46,655
Speaker 4: try and get a test, pot go to an inconspicuous

1090
01:00:46,775 --> 01:00:50,375
Speaker 4: area and apply your new coating over the existing one

1091
01:00:50,775 --> 01:00:53,775
Speaker 4: and just see whether or not it's, Compatible like does

1092
01:00:53,855 --> 01:00:57,055
Speaker 4: it sit on top and not dry properly or appear

1093
01:00:57,095 --> 01:00:59,575
Speaker 4: blotchy or something like. That if you apply it and

1094
01:00:59,655 --> 01:01:02,775
Speaker 4: it seems to soak, in then it's compatible with what

1095
01:01:02,935 --> 01:01:05,855
Speaker 4: you've got. There so what you don't want is incompatibility

1096
01:01:05,975 --> 01:01:14,255
Speaker 4: between those. Two someone else's. Text this is the joins.

1097
01:01:14,535 --> 01:01:18,615
Speaker 4: Issue those hardy plank weatherboards look like they're just buttered,

1098
01:01:18,695 --> 01:01:21,855
Speaker 4: together but they have a back soka at the end

1099
01:01:21,935 --> 01:01:24,175
Speaker 4: joints which is invisible except for a little piece of

1100
01:01:24,215 --> 01:01:28,495
Speaker 4: aluminium protruding at the bottom of each butt. Join that

1101
01:01:28,695 --> 01:01:30,455
Speaker 4: might be the, case but, again as long as they've

1102
01:01:30,495 --> 01:01:34,855
Speaker 4: put the back soca, on those weatherboards should remain weather.

1103
01:01:34,935 --> 01:01:38,175
Speaker 4: Tight thanks very much for the. Text. Simon good, Morning,

1104
01:01:39,535 --> 01:01:40,895
Speaker 4: oh good, Morning hey the are?

1105
01:01:40,975 --> 01:01:41,015
Speaker 10: You?

1106
01:01:41,335 --> 01:01:41,495
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1107
01:01:41,575 --> 01:01:47,735
Speaker 10: Good So i'm calling From northland and we are about

1108
01:01:47,775 --> 01:01:51,735
Speaker 10: together certificate of. Acceptance hopefully we're just an extension for

1109
01:01:51,775 --> 01:01:53,695
Speaker 10: another three months because we've got the, sept the tank

1110
01:01:53,775 --> 01:01:57,055
Speaker 10: and sanitary footings all signed, off got a big twenty

1111
01:01:57,095 --> 01:01:59,295
Speaker 10: tonsigger and do. That so we've kind of depleted our,

1112
01:01:59,375 --> 01:02:02,015
Speaker 10: FUNDS i. Bet and we've got to do the flashings

1113
01:02:02,255 --> 01:02:05,575
Speaker 10: on one of the roofs and gutters and down. Types

1114
01:02:06,655 --> 01:02:09,095
Speaker 10: And i'm wondering when they do, come are they interested

1115
01:02:09,135 --> 01:02:10,815
Speaker 10: in if we have a top hole and over the

1116
01:02:10,975 --> 01:02:15,735
Speaker 10: roof of one of our, anectors will they be asking

1117
01:02:15,855 --> 01:02:19,295
Speaker 10: us to require us to put the flashings on? Gutters

1118
01:02:20,015 --> 01:02:25,655
Speaker 10: and most, importantly where do dwnpipes come? Down is there

1119
01:02:25,695 --> 01:02:28,855
Speaker 10: any certain requirements that need the water to be taken

1120
01:02:28,975 --> 01:02:34,975
Speaker 10: certain distance away from the, house and, YEAH i think if.

1121
01:02:34,895 --> 01:02:38,335
Speaker 4: You're going for A, CoA so certificate of, acceptance obviously

1122
01:02:38,415 --> 01:02:40,895
Speaker 4: there's been some work that was done that should have

1123
01:02:40,975 --> 01:02:43,255
Speaker 4: had a building consent but didn't get, one or one

1124
01:02:43,375 --> 01:02:44,975
Speaker 4: wasn't signed, off and so.

1125
01:02:45,495 --> 01:02:46,055
Speaker 10: A few years.

1126
01:02:46,095 --> 01:02:49,455
Speaker 4: Ago, yeah, okay so now you're looking for a certificate

1127
01:02:49,495 --> 01:02:53,175
Speaker 4: of acceptance from. Council is council doing the investigation or

1128
01:02:53,175 --> 01:02:56,575
Speaker 4: if you employed a building surveyor to do this Council,

1129
01:02:56,815 --> 01:03:01,615
Speaker 4: Okay look in a, nutshell council will expect you to

1130
01:03:01,695 --> 01:03:05,215
Speaker 4: have finished the house to the code. Requirements, Right so

1131
01:03:06,295 --> 01:03:09,215
Speaker 4: if you don't have flashings where they're supposed to, be

1132
01:03:09,415 --> 01:03:11,775
Speaker 4: if you don't have your down pipes, connected so your

1133
01:03:11,815 --> 01:03:14,815
Speaker 4: storm water is not, complete all of these, things it'll

1134
01:03:14,975 --> 01:03:17,335
Speaker 4: just be you just need to get the house. Finished

1135
01:03:17,695 --> 01:03:21,975
Speaker 4: in a, nutshell so tarpolans indicate that things aren't. Finished

1136
01:03:22,735 --> 01:03:25,455
Speaker 4: if there's flashings missing and it's not quite weather, tight

1137
01:03:25,535 --> 01:03:28,055
Speaker 4: then you'll need to do. Those you'll need to have.

1138
01:03:28,175 --> 01:03:31,055
Speaker 4: Spouting spouting needs to be connected to the storm. Water

1139
01:03:31,175 --> 01:03:34,415
Speaker 4: stormwater needs to connect either to the public line or

1140
01:03:34,495 --> 01:03:38,135
Speaker 4: to your tanks or to whatever drainage. System so we

1141
01:03:38,215 --> 01:03:38,575
Speaker 4: can we.

1142
01:03:38,615 --> 01:03:40,895
Speaker 10: Can have them going off often the swales as soume

1143
01:03:40,975 --> 01:03:44,735
Speaker 10: because we've only, springwater so we don't need to actually har.

1144
01:03:45,135 --> 01:03:49,255
Speaker 4: Only if you've had that, Engineered, like how can you

1145
01:03:49,495 --> 01:03:52,495
Speaker 4: prove that it's going to. Work So i'm not saying

1146
01:03:52,535 --> 01:03:55,975
Speaker 4: that it won't, work but council will expect some sort

1147
01:03:55,975 --> 01:04:00,975
Speaker 4: of documentation to say this is an approved storm water control.

1148
01:04:01,135 --> 01:04:05,655
Speaker 4: System so whether that's onto the ground into a local,

1149
01:04:05,815 --> 01:04:08,295
Speaker 4: stream if it is going into a, stream do you

1150
01:04:08,375 --> 01:04:10,975
Speaker 4: have a catch pit to ensure that you're not depositing

1151
01:04:11,095 --> 01:04:15,095
Speaker 4: sediment into the, stream those sorts of. Things so in these,

1152
01:04:15,135 --> 01:04:18,735
Speaker 4: instances council will always be looking for proof of.

1153
01:04:18,935 --> 01:04:23,975
Speaker 10: Compliance, yeah we'll be feeding it into our orchard the

1154
01:04:24,735 --> 01:04:27,895
Speaker 10: water runoff from the roofs and swales that. Way BUT

1155
01:04:27,975 --> 01:04:30,455
Speaker 10: i wouldn't imagine they might ask for an, engineer but

1156
01:04:32,215 --> 01:04:34,415
Speaker 10: that's WHAT i do for a living in terms of garden.

1157
01:04:34,575 --> 01:04:39,015
Speaker 10: Landscaping i'm HOPING i can persuade them, otherwise but, yeah.

1158
01:04:39,615 --> 01:04:41,575
Speaker 4: They'll probably require some sort of.

1159
01:04:41,655 --> 01:04:45,655
Speaker 10: Proof, yeah while we've been, building we've put a container

1160
01:04:45,855 --> 01:04:49,895
Speaker 10: and clad it and put a roof over top of

1161
01:04:49,935 --> 01:04:52,335
Speaker 10: the container and a lean to on the side of.

1162
01:04:52,415 --> 01:04:55,135
Speaker 10: It so are tools under the dry and it's actually

1163
01:04:55,175 --> 01:04:58,535
Speaker 10: gone over our thirty square. Meters that's. Allowable, yes as

1164
01:04:58,535 --> 01:05:00,895
Speaker 10: a shipping. Container can we just sort of have a

1165
01:05:00,975 --> 01:05:02,735
Speaker 10: lean to off the side of it and use that

1166
01:05:02,815 --> 01:05:04,895
Speaker 10: as a Temporary, well it won't be. Temporary i'd like

1167
01:05:04,975 --> 01:05:06,495
Speaker 10: to keep, it, really is?

1168
01:05:06,535 --> 01:05:08,295
Speaker 4: It it's not, habitable is?

1169
01:05:08,335 --> 01:05:08,375
Speaker 10: It?

1170
01:05:09,655 --> 01:05:09,695
Speaker 13: No?

1171
01:05:10,135 --> 01:05:12,255
Speaker 10: No, no it's like an open sided lean too with

1172
01:05:12,935 --> 01:05:16,615
Speaker 10: workshop and the tools up and, yeah it's. Awesome it's

1173
01:05:16,735 --> 01:05:22,695
Speaker 10: also not. Transport, yeah the container could be lifted off

1174
01:05:22,775 --> 01:05:24,535
Speaker 10: with all that's cladding on, it and the lean to

1175
01:05:24,575 --> 01:05:27,535
Speaker 10: would just have to be cut. Away so That's i'm

1176
01:05:27,575 --> 01:05:29,215
Speaker 10: wondering if they're going to be picking us on that

1177
01:05:29,375 --> 01:05:29,695
Speaker 10: one as.

1178
01:05:29,735 --> 01:05:35,215
Speaker 4: Well, look technically they probably, could depending on. It if

1179
01:05:35,255 --> 01:05:38,815
Speaker 4: it exceeds site, coverage then they might pick you up on.

1180
01:05:38,935 --> 01:05:41,055
Speaker 4: That you, know if you've put a roof on, it

1181
01:05:41,175 --> 01:05:43,815
Speaker 4: then you're also collecting, Stormwater so what have you done

1182
01:05:43,815 --> 01:05:49,535
Speaker 4: about controlling stormwater and? Runoff, again that might relate to

1183
01:05:49,615 --> 01:05:51,255
Speaker 4: the size of the property.

1184
01:05:52,495 --> 01:05:54,455
Speaker 10: Ten, Acres, yeah, okay so.

1185
01:05:54,535 --> 01:05:56,375
Speaker 4: It's, look site coverage isn't going to be an issue

1186
01:05:56,415 --> 01:05:59,975
Speaker 4: on ten, acres is? It, No so that that's probably

1187
01:06:00,015 --> 01:06:02,335
Speaker 4: not going to be and it's not habitable and it

1188
01:06:02,495 --> 01:06:06,575
Speaker 4: is a workshop because it's, enclosed then it because you

1189
01:06:06,615 --> 01:06:08,935
Speaker 4: can build a forty square meter lean to or a

1190
01:06:09,095 --> 01:06:12,895
Speaker 4: car port right without necessarily requiring a building. Consent so

1191
01:06:13,055 --> 01:06:15,255
Speaker 4: you could kind of, argue, well it's just like a car.

1192
01:06:15,375 --> 01:06:19,975
Speaker 4: Port but, LOOK i think just concentrate on the main,

1193
01:06:20,015 --> 01:06:24,855
Speaker 4: house concentrate on THE. CoA if you've already engaged with,

1194
01:06:25,015 --> 01:06:28,415
Speaker 4: them there will be a scope of. Works so when

1195
01:06:28,495 --> 01:06:33,055
Speaker 4: the inspector comes, back just keep their focus on the

1196
01:06:33,175 --> 01:06:37,255
Speaker 4: scope of work that you've already decided and essentially guide

1197
01:06:37,375 --> 01:06:39,815
Speaker 4: them away from looking at a whole lot of other.

1198
01:06:39,895 --> 01:06:42,215
Speaker 4: Stuff is a wise. Move but it sounds like you've

1199
01:06:42,255 --> 01:06:45,055
Speaker 4: got that under. Control but good luck with. That it

1200
01:06:45,215 --> 01:06:47,295
Speaker 4: is quite the. Process and if you're listening and you're,

1201
01:06:47,295 --> 01:06:54,295
Speaker 4: wondering why go FOR? CoA increasingly And i'm involved in

1202
01:06:54,335 --> 01:06:57,175
Speaker 4: a couple of projects where things didn't get signed, off you,

1203
01:06:57,255 --> 01:06:59,855
Speaker 4: know the final, inspection a couple of things to, Folks,

1204
01:06:59,935 --> 01:07:02,255
Speaker 4: oh let's do that, later let's do that, later let's

1205
01:07:02,295 --> 01:07:05,215
Speaker 4: do that. Later ten years, later you're suddenly trying to

1206
01:07:05,495 --> 01:07:11,175
Speaker 4: get A ccc for a building consent reinspect. It, ideally

1207
01:07:11,655 --> 01:07:15,855
Speaker 4: just get it done at the. Time, seriously you won't regret.

1208
01:07:15,935 --> 01:07:18,495
Speaker 4: It oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to.

1209
01:07:18,575 --> 01:07:22,615
Speaker 4: Call quick call for, You Mary. Anne hello, There Hello.

1210
01:07:22,735 --> 01:07:27,215
Speaker 13: Peter i'm just, hello good. Morning i'm just springing about

1211
01:07:27,295 --> 01:07:31,815
Speaker 13: my Bee lux window in my. Bathroom mechanically it's, fine

1212
01:07:32,015 --> 01:07:34,375
Speaker 13: And i'm just. Wondering someone came and had to, look

1213
01:07:34,455 --> 01:07:36,455
Speaker 13: got up on the roofs and set. Outside it was,

1214
01:07:36,575 --> 01:07:39,415
Speaker 13: okay but they didn't look inside. Right And i've had

1215
01:07:39,455 --> 01:07:44,495
Speaker 13: a little leak over the, years just in one. Area

1216
01:07:44,695 --> 01:07:47,255
Speaker 13: and when you, look a friend came and had a

1217
01:07:47,295 --> 01:07:50,215
Speaker 13: look in the right hand. Top the painter's sort of.

1218
01:07:50,295 --> 01:07:53,215
Speaker 13: Lifting any thinks it's coming from up. There and WHEN

1219
01:07:53,295 --> 01:07:55,855
Speaker 13: i look up and you, know standing on the, FLOOR

1220
01:07:55,895 --> 01:07:59,175
Speaker 13: i can see a Little we're a bit of the seilance.

1221
01:07:59,295 --> 01:08:00,855
Speaker 16: Lifted who would do?

1222
01:08:01,055 --> 01:08:02,935
Speaker 13: That would it? Glazy you be the best to do?

1223
01:08:03,095 --> 01:08:07,935
Speaker 13: That or someone that deals with? Skylights H, LOOK.

1224
01:08:07,775 --> 01:08:11,535
Speaker 4: I would probably go for. Skylights if are you whereabouts

1225
01:08:11,535 --> 01:08:15,895
Speaker 4: to You Auckland Mount? Eden, okay if you go and

1226
01:08:15,935 --> 01:08:18,895
Speaker 4: do a Little google search for light works L I

1227
01:08:19,255 --> 01:08:25,255
Speaker 4: T E w R, x you'll end up talking To.

1228
01:08:25,335 --> 01:08:32,015
Speaker 4: Google google will has? Done IF i say, Thousands i'm

1229
01:08:32,015 --> 01:08:37,695
Speaker 4: probably underestimating it Skylights. Vluxes he's probably a really good

1230
01:08:37,735 --> 01:08:40,935
Speaker 4: person to talk, to so Try google at Light. Works

1231
01:08:41,455 --> 01:08:43,455
Speaker 4: he's got a couple of guys with. Them they'll come

1232
01:08:43,535 --> 01:08:48,895
Speaker 4: and sort that. Out vluxes. Themselves failure of The veluxes

1233
01:08:49,175 --> 01:08:54,095
Speaker 4: is quite. Rare it'll most likely be the flashings around, it,

1234
01:08:54,415 --> 01:08:56,535
Speaker 4: right so you could get a roofer to do. It

1235
01:08:56,695 --> 01:09:00,015
Speaker 4: but if, you LIKE i, say check out Light. Works

1236
01:09:00,975 --> 01:09:03,135
Speaker 4: he will ring me and give me a hard time

1237
01:09:03,215 --> 01:09:06,055
Speaker 4: for mentioning his, name BUT i know you'll be in safe,

1238
01:09:06,095 --> 01:09:09,695
Speaker 4: Hand so try Like, okay all the, best see, You.

1239
01:09:09,775 --> 01:09:12,695
Speaker 4: Maria we'll take short break and be back in just a.

1240
01:09:12,775 --> 01:09:16,255
Speaker 1: Moment doing of the house storting the, garden Asked pete

1241
01:09:16,295 --> 01:09:19,615
Speaker 1: for a. Hand the resident builder With peter wolfcaf call

1242
01:09:21,535 --> 01:09:22,255
Speaker 1: use dogsb.

1243
01:09:23,135 --> 01:09:25,415
Speaker 4: Oh here's an interesting text too quickly before we talk

1244
01:09:25,455 --> 01:09:28,735
Speaker 4: To Carl. Pete i've got a nineteen forties wooden ex.

1245
01:09:28,935 --> 01:09:32,495
Speaker 4: Statehouse most of the window flashings have rusted, badly some

1246
01:09:32,615 --> 01:09:35,975
Speaker 4: have rusted right. Through are they easy to? Replace CAN

1247
01:09:36,015 --> 01:09:40,935
Speaker 4: i do it? Myself From? Paul given the age of the,

1248
01:09:40,975 --> 01:09:45,095
Speaker 4: HOUSE i suspect that the head flashing essentially just runs

1249
01:09:45,295 --> 01:09:48,615
Speaker 4: over the face of the board and tucks up underneath

1250
01:09:48,695 --> 01:09:52,175
Speaker 4: the board above, Right so you just need to set

1251
01:09:52,215 --> 01:09:55,015
Speaker 4: up a little, platform get up, there pry that top

1252
01:09:55,095 --> 01:09:57,815
Speaker 4: board open a little bit so that you can remove the,

1253
01:09:57,895 --> 01:10:02,215
Speaker 4: fixings pull the flashing. Out chances are it won't be

1254
01:10:02,295 --> 01:10:06,055
Speaker 4: a standard. Size it might, be in which case some hardware,

1255
01:10:06,055 --> 01:10:09,895
Speaker 4: store particularly the older, ones will have lengths of. Flashing

1256
01:10:11,015 --> 01:10:13,895
Speaker 4: you can then buy a new piece of metal flashing

1257
01:10:15,375 --> 01:10:17,055
Speaker 4: slide that. Up you might have to trim it a

1258
01:10:17,095 --> 01:10:20,455
Speaker 4: little bit because depending on the upstand slide that in,

1259
01:10:20,535 --> 01:10:23,495
Speaker 4: place fold the ends down and replace. Them, so, yes it.

1260
01:10:23,655 --> 01:10:30,575
Speaker 4: Is they are repairable in that. Sense modern. Flashings if

1261
01:10:30,615 --> 01:10:32,615
Speaker 4: you're doing timber joiner and that sort of, thing the

1262
01:10:32,695 --> 01:10:35,295
Speaker 4: flashing goes back to the building wrap and it's often

1263
01:10:35,455 --> 01:10:39,135
Speaker 4: behind the. Cavity in order to replace those you're talking,

1264
01:10:39,175 --> 01:10:43,135
Speaker 4: about it is to be. Blunt it makes it just

1265
01:10:43,215 --> 01:10:46,575
Speaker 4: a pig of a job because you've literally got to

1266
01:10:46,615 --> 01:10:51,415
Speaker 4: pull apart you're cladding to get in. There, yeah so

1267
01:10:51,495 --> 01:10:55,575
Speaker 4: an old, House, yes it is achievable and, doable And

1268
01:10:55,655 --> 01:10:57,975
Speaker 4: i'm sure you could do it yourself right type for

1269
01:10:58,015 --> 01:10:59,455
Speaker 4: your Calls, carl good, Morning.

1270
01:11:01,015 --> 01:11:03,895
Speaker 11: Yeah good, MORNING i can go, ahead.

1271
01:11:05,255 --> 01:11:05,375
Speaker 13: Very.

1272
01:11:05,415 --> 01:11:09,895
Speaker 16: Good got a property In. Devonport it's one of those

1273
01:11:09,935 --> 01:11:14,575
Speaker 16: colonial nineteen twenty houses has got a. Porch it's not

1274
01:11:14,695 --> 01:11:17,335
Speaker 16: weatherproofed and so any weather that comes in from the,

1275
01:11:17,415 --> 01:11:21,095
Speaker 16: side it's leaking through underneath the. House just looking for

1276
01:11:21,175 --> 01:11:24,615
Speaker 16: the best product that's super, FLEXIBLE i can to proof

1277
01:11:24,655 --> 01:11:25,575
Speaker 16: the porch.

1278
01:11:26,295 --> 01:11:30,815
Speaker 4: So that porches is obviously. Clad is it? Clad and weather?

1279
01:11:30,895 --> 01:11:32,975
Speaker 4: Boards is it? Clad and batman boards.

1280
01:11:34,815 --> 01:11:34,855
Speaker 6: The?

1281
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Speaker 11: Porch?

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01:11:35,575 --> 01:11:40,055
Speaker 16: Oh, sorry so the porches are it's it's. Rude but

1283
01:11:40,535 --> 01:11:44,855
Speaker 16: when it's opened on two sides and the brawllboards are

1284
01:11:45,015 --> 01:11:46,455
Speaker 16: just butted up.

1285
01:11:46,495 --> 01:11:52,015
Speaker 4: Together, yep they're not sealed, right and they're not painted.

1286
01:11:53,055 --> 01:11:55,815
Speaker 16: Well as, painted but they move so much to the.

1287
01:11:55,855 --> 01:12:02,495
Speaker 4: Painters but typically those that decking, boards that tongue groove that's,

1288
01:12:02,575 --> 01:12:04,815
Speaker 4: down that'll be lower than the floor level and it

1289
01:12:04,855 --> 01:12:07,535
Speaker 4: should have some fall to the out. Side so even

1290
01:12:07,575 --> 01:12:09,615
Speaker 4: if word gets into the, grooves that should run. Out,

1291
01:12:11,175 --> 01:12:11,815
Speaker 4: no no it.

1292
01:12:11,855 --> 01:12:15,615
Speaker 16: Doesn't it's it's. Flat the porches are on, piles you,

1293
01:12:15,695 --> 01:12:19,855
Speaker 16: know it's a meter and a half up on a

1294
01:12:20,855 --> 01:12:25,495
Speaker 16: slope of. Property, yeah just whatever rain comes in through

1295
01:12:25,535 --> 01:12:29,415
Speaker 16: the open sides just sits there and then drips.

1296
01:12:29,455 --> 01:12:34,495
Speaker 4: Through but what's underneath, it what's dripping onto well what

1297
01:12:35,295 --> 01:12:35,815
Speaker 4: it used.

1298
01:12:35,655 --> 01:12:40,095
Speaker 16: To be the subsul underneath the, house but that's now

1299
01:12:40,215 --> 01:12:42,215
Speaker 16: all kind of sealed off and we're using it for.

1300
01:12:42,335 --> 01:12:45,775
Speaker 16: Storage SO i want to try and, okay come, through all,

1301
01:12:45,895 --> 01:12:54,815
Speaker 16: RIGHT i just want to with a proof a flexing. Floor,

1302
01:12:56,255 --> 01:12:59,455
Speaker 16: yeah but then it's going to be in. Theme so you,

1303
01:12:59,535 --> 01:13:02,015
Speaker 16: Know i'll put black beauty and on, down but it's

1304
01:13:02,055 --> 01:13:04,335
Speaker 16: not in, theme AND i don't know how to color

1305
01:13:04,415 --> 01:13:05,255
Speaker 16: that or if it comes in.

1306
01:13:05,335 --> 01:13:09,775
Speaker 4: Color, look you can get decking, paint you, know from,

1307
01:13:09,895 --> 01:13:12,455
Speaker 4: razine which will have a little bit of elasticity in,

1308
01:13:12,535 --> 01:13:17,375
Speaker 4: it and typically it doesn't need a lot to waterproof.

1309
01:13:17,455 --> 01:13:19,535
Speaker 4: It SO i wonder whether if you give the area

1310
01:13:19,615 --> 01:13:23,735
Speaker 4: a thorough clean spot prime any beer, areas and then

1311
01:13:23,815 --> 01:13:27,895
Speaker 4: maybe do two or three coats of paint over the,

1312
01:13:28,015 --> 01:13:31,175
Speaker 4: top that should be enough to stop most of the

1313
01:13:31,295 --> 01:13:36,935
Speaker 4: moisture getting. THROUGH i don't know. That i'd want to

1314
01:13:37,175 --> 01:13:39,615
Speaker 4: sort of suggest that you apply like a membrane over

1315
01:13:39,695 --> 01:13:42,095
Speaker 4: the top of. It it'll it'll look quite. Different given

1316
01:13:42,135 --> 01:13:45,735
Speaker 4: that you're in a heritage, house there might be some

1317
01:13:45,855 --> 01:13:47,335
Speaker 4: adhesion issues there as.

1318
01:13:47,375 --> 01:13:53,975
Speaker 16: Well that that would be the theory that previous owners have.

1319
01:13:54,375 --> 01:13:58,695
Speaker 16: Used that'd be like you have to do it every

1320
01:13:58,735 --> 01:13:59,615
Speaker 16: three years or something like.

1321
01:13:59,655 --> 01:14:01,095
Speaker 4: That, yeah that's, right you've got to stay on top

1322
01:14:01,135 --> 01:14:05,935
Speaker 4: of The, yeah but, look that's that's probably WHAT i

1323
01:14:05,975 --> 01:14:09,255
Speaker 4: would and look to be. Fair, Today i'm going to

1324
01:14:09,295 --> 01:14:13,455
Speaker 4: go home And i've just relayed tongue and groove decking

1325
01:14:13,575 --> 01:14:15,255
Speaker 4: on a veranda at the back of the. House i've

1326
01:14:15,335 --> 01:14:18,255
Speaker 4: got some stuff THAT i store underneath their kayak and but,

1327
01:14:18,415 --> 01:14:23,815
Speaker 4: supply wooden ladders and things like. That i've done a primer,

1328
01:14:23,895 --> 01:14:26,535
Speaker 4: Coat i've done a second primer. Coat i'll do hopefully

1329
01:14:26,615 --> 01:14:29,535
Speaker 4: get a top coat on it. Today first top, coat

1330
01:14:29,655 --> 01:14:31,935
Speaker 4: a couple of coats of, that And i've never had

1331
01:14:32,015 --> 01:14:34,295
Speaker 4: water getting through, it SO i think paint system will

1332
01:14:34,455 --> 01:14:37,455
Speaker 4: work for you in that. Instance, There good luck on that.

1333
01:14:37,535 --> 01:14:39,735
Speaker 4: One carl all the very. Best we'll talk To james

1334
01:14:39,815 --> 01:14:40,095
Speaker 4: after the.

1335
01:14:40,175 --> 01:14:43,015
Speaker 1: Break whether you're painting the, ceiling fixing with, fans or

1336
01:14:43,095 --> 01:14:45,295
Speaker 1: wondering how to fix that hole in the. Wall Give

1337
01:14:45,415 --> 01:14:51,335
Speaker 1: peter wolf cavicall on. Eight the resident builder On YOUTH Dogsb.

1338
01:14:51,735 --> 01:14:55,095
Speaker 4: Joining me today Is Alan simpkin from Arc Line architecture

1339
01:14:55,175 --> 01:14:59,335
Speaker 4: up In. Kaitaia decades of experience with triboard, Housing alan's

1340
01:14:59,375 --> 01:15:03,495
Speaker 4: been at the forefront of off site, construction, prefabrication modular

1341
01:15:03,575 --> 01:15:06,375
Speaker 4: and kit set. Housing deep knowledge of the product and

1342
01:15:06,495 --> 01:15:09,455
Speaker 4: its evolution over time makes them the perfect person to

1343
01:15:09,535 --> 01:15:13,695
Speaker 4: discuss How triboard is shaping the future of, efficient durable home.

1344
01:15:13,775 --> 01:15:17,055
Speaker 4: Building thanks for joining us this, Morning. Ellen now you've

1345
01:15:17,135 --> 01:15:20,335
Speaker 4: been involved for quite some time from its earliest. Days

1346
01:15:20,735 --> 01:15:22,775
Speaker 4: what were your first impressions of the? Product?

1347
01:15:23,735 --> 01:15:26,095
Speaker 5: Yeah how are you pet? It we've been involved with

1348
01:15:26,135 --> 01:15:28,695
Speaker 5: it since nineteen eighty nine that when it was first

1349
01:15:29,095 --> 01:15:33,015
Speaker 5: produced In Kai. Tire at that time there was mostly

1350
01:15:33,095 --> 01:15:36,935
Speaker 5: only wet framing available On New zealand wet pine, framing

1351
01:15:37,055 --> 01:15:44,175
Speaker 5: so we started using triboard faster the erect and crypt

1352
01:15:44,215 --> 01:15:47,295
Speaker 5: to close. In, yeah it's a great product AND i.

1353
01:15:47,255 --> 01:15:49,695
Speaker 4: Suppose it's innovative in terms of you, know our walls

1354
01:15:49,695 --> 01:15:52,415
Speaker 4: are tryboard now there's no not necessarily any, framing so

1355
01:15:52,415 --> 01:15:54,735
Speaker 4: it's just a. Triboard now you've used it in a

1356
01:15:54,855 --> 01:15:58,215
Speaker 4: number of projects from local housing through to exporting up

1357
01:15:58,255 --> 01:16:00,895
Speaker 4: to the. Islands what are in terms of getting stuff off?

1358
01:16:00,935 --> 01:16:02,175
Speaker 4: Shore what are the big challenges?

1359
01:16:02,215 --> 01:16:05,855
Speaker 5: There, yeah so we have used the special board That

1360
01:16:05,975 --> 01:16:10,055
Speaker 5: tribe developed for. It it was like an insect and

1361
01:16:10,215 --> 01:16:15,335
Speaker 5: a high moisture resistant. Board we also made the boards

1362
01:16:15,375 --> 01:16:18,615
Speaker 5: a smaller width where were sending them up to mostly

1363
01:16:18,655 --> 01:16:21,775
Speaker 5: two point four by one, meters so two guys up

1364
01:16:21,815 --> 01:16:24,735
Speaker 5: in The islands could erect them and, yeah it worked really.

1365
01:16:24,735 --> 01:16:28,935
Speaker 4: Well now you started your work in the construction sector

1366
01:16:29,015 --> 01:16:31,295
Speaker 4: as a chippy like, me then you've moved into the

1367
01:16:31,375 --> 01:16:35,135
Speaker 4: Design so from a designer's, perspective what makes triboard such

1368
01:16:35,175 --> 01:16:39,095
Speaker 4: a strong choice for modern housing? Projects, yeah a.

1369
01:16:40,055 --> 01:16:43,135
Speaker 5: Lot of In New zealand, especially there's a lot of

1370
01:16:43,215 --> 01:16:47,855
Speaker 5: move towards off site manufacturing pre. Tabrication we need to

1371
01:16:48,015 --> 01:16:52,455
Speaker 5: because the cost of labor is so high And triboard

1372
01:16:52,895 --> 01:16:58,175
Speaker 5: building shift really well like a strong. Box so they

1373
01:16:58,295 --> 01:17:01,695
Speaker 5: worked really well for the off, site modular and on

1374
01:17:01,775 --> 01:17:02,095
Speaker 5: site as.

1375
01:17:02,135 --> 01:17:02,255
Speaker 8: Well.

1376
01:17:02,615 --> 01:17:05,335
Speaker 4: Yeah, now some of your recent, works some large scale

1377
01:17:05,415 --> 01:17:10,935
Speaker 4: housing developments Like, trust but also the Suites Aged. Care

1378
01:17:10,975 --> 01:17:12,855
Speaker 4: how's triboard helped with those. Products.

1379
01:17:14,095 --> 01:17:18,055
Speaker 5: Yeah so with the the swits Of Home run a

1380
01:17:18,175 --> 01:17:21,575
Speaker 5: lot of two twenty eight units and most of them

1381
01:17:21,615 --> 01:17:25,215
Speaker 5: are two. Story we're working with Panel, lock local. Company

1382
01:17:25,735 --> 01:17:28,735
Speaker 5: the large we're using the large panels and the whole

1383
01:17:28,855 --> 01:17:33,015
Speaker 5: top floors of these units are getting completely finished off

1384
01:17:33,095 --> 01:17:36,135
Speaker 5: site and then craned, on so the pretty well the

1385
01:17:36,255 --> 01:17:39,775
Speaker 5: data building contents, issued construction can start on the top.

1386
01:17:39,815 --> 01:17:44,975
Speaker 5: Floor so, yeah huge saving and time and money during.

1387
01:17:45,055 --> 01:17:48,775
Speaker 4: That and obviously along with the product there's there's advancement

1388
01:17:48,895 --> 01:17:51,615
Speaker 4: in THE c AND c technology and the improved panel.

1389
01:17:51,695 --> 01:17:54,775
Speaker 4: Design so how has triboard evolved since those early days

1390
01:17:54,775 --> 01:17:56,815
Speaker 4: and where do you see its biggest potential in the.

1391
01:17:56,855 --> 01:18:01,335
Speaker 5: Future, yeah so when we we're using, it we used

1392
01:18:01,375 --> 01:18:05,495
Speaker 5: to pretty well hand cut most of the user old hand. Rutter,

1393
01:18:05,695 --> 01:18:08,935
Speaker 5: yeah plans was now most of the all done with sands,

1394
01:18:08,935 --> 01:18:10,855
Speaker 5: seeds so always get down lights of pre cut into

1395
01:18:10,895 --> 01:18:13,615
Speaker 5: your ceilings and all your power boards all pre cut

1396
01:18:13,695 --> 01:18:18,975
Speaker 5: into the. Walls so again just using MODERN cad and

1397
01:18:19,175 --> 01:18:22,775
Speaker 5: sense seed technology to pre do as much as possible

1398
01:18:22,815 --> 01:18:23,015
Speaker 5: in the.

1399
01:18:23,495 --> 01:18:25,055
Speaker 9: Factory so it's just the.

1400
01:18:25,135 --> 01:18:28,135
Speaker 5: Spark you can just, pull pull whiles. Through so, yeah

1401
01:18:28,175 --> 01:18:30,415
Speaker 5: that's working really. Well it's a hang a lot faster

1402
01:18:30,415 --> 01:18:30,895
Speaker 5: than it used to.

1403
01:18:30,935 --> 01:18:34,335
Speaker 4: Be, absolutely now you've seen the industry grow and change

1404
01:18:34,375 --> 01:18:36,255
Speaker 4: over the. Years what advice would you give to builders

1405
01:18:36,255 --> 01:18:39,415
Speaker 4: and architects and designers who might be considering triboard for

1406
01:18:39,535 --> 01:18:40,455
Speaker 4: their next.

1407
01:18:40,495 --> 01:18:44,415
Speaker 5: Project, yeah it is speed and we've got local companies

1408
01:18:44,455 --> 01:18:46,935
Speaker 5: Like Dura, panel which are they're sending kit sets right

1409
01:18:47,015 --> 01:18:50,575
Speaker 5: Through New, zealand quite a few into The South, island and,

1410
01:18:51,095 --> 01:18:55,975
Speaker 5: yeah slap packed kit sets pretty well Like, Lego AND

1411
01:18:56,735 --> 01:18:59,935
Speaker 5: i think it is definitely a way forward for the building.

1412
01:19:00,015 --> 01:19:02,175
Speaker 5: Industry we've just got to look at different ways of

1413
01:19:02,295 --> 01:19:05,255
Speaker 5: doing things because the conventional way of doing things is

1414
01:19:05,335 --> 01:19:09,295
Speaker 5: just is really just so slow and come withsome especially

1415
01:19:09,375 --> 01:19:13,535
Speaker 5: for multi multi UNIT talp, developments which there's a lot of.

1416
01:19:14,055 --> 01:19:18,215
Speaker 5: Repetition so, YEAH i think it's worth. Prefabrication that's definitely

1417
01:19:18,295 --> 01:19:18,695
Speaker 5: the way of the.

1418
01:19:18,775 --> 01:19:22,095
Speaker 4: Future, yeah i'd agree with you. There if you want

1419
01:19:22,095 --> 01:19:25,415
Speaker 4: to see some Of allen's, work check out Arc lines

1420
01:19:25,495 --> 01:19:29,095
Speaker 4: projects on arcline dot co dot M. Z thanks very

1421
01:19:29,135 --> 01:19:31,215
Speaker 4: much for joining us this. Morning, ellen been great to

1422
01:19:31,295 --> 01:19:31,575
Speaker 4: chat with.

1423
01:19:31,655 --> 01:19:34,975
Speaker 9: You thanks very, Much, petter it's Good take, care Z.

1424
01:19:35,175 --> 01:19:37,335
Speaker 4: B if you want to find out more about j

1425
01:19:37,415 --> 01:19:39,575
Speaker 4: AND l About triboard and the work That ellen, does

1426
01:19:40,375 --> 01:19:44,615
Speaker 4: check OUT jnl dot co dot IN. Z And, james

1427
01:19:44,855 --> 01:19:45,935
Speaker 4: thanks for. Waiting good morning to.

1428
01:19:45,975 --> 01:19:46,015
Speaker 17: You.

1429
01:19:48,415 --> 01:19:51,455
Speaker 6: Yeah, Look i'm a trade qualsied cardener from way back

1430
01:19:51,535 --> 01:19:56,855
Speaker 6: in the mid seventies AND i heard the study or

1431
01:19:57,015 --> 01:20:05,255
Speaker 6: program and the mention of the old. Rebate oddly, enough

1432
01:20:05,375 --> 01:20:07,895
Speaker 6: in the last WEEK i had to drag one out

1433
01:20:07,895 --> 01:20:12,575
Speaker 6: and use it. Myself and oh good, god it's once

1434
01:20:12,615 --> 01:20:16,815
Speaker 6: every twenty years or SO i see, you and every

1435
01:20:16,895 --> 01:20:20,095
Speaker 6: now and again a job comes along where nothing else.

1436
01:20:19,935 --> 01:20:21,095
Speaker 8: Will do, it AND.

1437
01:20:22,655 --> 01:20:25,855
Speaker 6: I, Think, god what an invaluable piece of equipment you,

1438
01:20:26,015 --> 01:20:31,855
Speaker 6: are and How i'd hate to ever lose. It but

1439
01:20:32,175 --> 01:20:37,615
Speaker 6: a question, Arose you've possibly observed this a lot more than,

1440
01:20:37,695 --> 01:20:44,895
Speaker 6: myself Given i've been retired for a. While we've got

1441
01:20:44,975 --> 01:20:48,775
Speaker 6: all the mod cons and all the whiz bang you,

1442
01:20:48,855 --> 01:20:54,575
Speaker 6: know the latest and greatest and fastest kind of electronics and.

1443
01:20:55,135 --> 01:21:01,775
Speaker 6: Technology how much have you observed all that kind of

1444
01:21:01,935 --> 01:21:12,575
Speaker 6: gear compromising the ability of so many people to use

1445
01:21:13,135 --> 01:21:13,855
Speaker 6: some of the basic.

1446
01:21:13,975 --> 01:21:18,015
Speaker 4: Tools, YEAH i, mean, look part of this fools into

1447
01:21:18,095 --> 01:21:20,655
Speaker 4: The you, know you might be a little bit ahead of,

1448
01:21:20,695 --> 01:21:22,175
Speaker 4: me But i'm a.

1449
01:21:22,295 --> 01:21:23,495
Speaker 6: Dinosaur yeah that's.

1450
01:21:23,615 --> 01:21:25,935
Speaker 4: Right you, know we are now proud members of The

1451
01:21:26,015 --> 01:21:30,695
Speaker 4: Grumpy Old Man, association, right and membership is restricted to

1452
01:21:30,775 --> 01:21:32,935
Speaker 4: those with a few gray hairs and a slightly bad

1453
01:21:33,055 --> 01:21:36,215
Speaker 4: back and an aching arm from hand nailing your frames

1454
01:21:36,255 --> 01:21:41,895
Speaker 4: together back in the. Day, so now that we've figured

1455
01:21:41,935 --> 01:21:45,655
Speaker 4: out the ground. Rules, yes we will often talk, about you,

1456
01:21:45,695 --> 01:21:49,095
Speaker 4: know younger trades people perhaps not being a Skilled i'm

1457
01:21:49,135 --> 01:21:52,215
Speaker 4: pretty sure that my first bosses would have looked at

1458
01:21:52,295 --> 01:21:55,495
Speaker 4: me as some sort of muppet as well As i'm

1459
01:21:55,535 --> 01:21:59,095
Speaker 4: struggling to use tools and so. On but but, LOOK

1460
01:21:59,375 --> 01:22:00,735
Speaker 4: i don't completely disagree with.

1461
01:22:00,815 --> 01:22:01,135
Speaker 9: You Like.

1462
01:22:03,095 --> 01:22:05,095
Speaker 4: I've been BUILDING i don't, know thirty eight years or

1463
01:22:05,095 --> 01:22:07,735
Speaker 4: something like that SINCE i First, so first couple of

1464
01:22:07,815 --> 01:22:11,055
Speaker 4: houses we, built we, Oh i'm going to run out of.

1465
01:22:11,135 --> 01:22:14,815
Speaker 4: Time we hand nailed the. Frames NOW i think that

1466
01:22:15,135 --> 01:22:17,855
Speaker 4: When i'm, Nailing i'm thinking about doing it LIKE i

1467
01:22:17,975 --> 01:22:19,735
Speaker 4: did it WHEN i was hand nailing, it which is

1468
01:22:20,255 --> 01:22:22,575
Speaker 4: every single one had to be in the right place

1469
01:22:22,735 --> 01:22:25,575
Speaker 4: and effective because it took you that much more. Effort

1470
01:22:25,815 --> 01:22:28,015
Speaker 4: whereas you give somebody a nail, gun they just fire

1471
01:22:28,095 --> 01:22:31,375
Speaker 4: it full of. NAILS i don't know that that necessarily makes.

1472
01:22:31,375 --> 01:22:32,975
Speaker 4: It SO i think on that point we're going to.

1473
01:22:33,015 --> 01:22:34,895
Speaker 4: Agree and Now i'm going to crash into the. News

1474
01:22:35,695 --> 01:22:37,895
Speaker 4: love you. Call thank you very much for Calling james

1475
01:22:37,975 --> 01:22:41,855
Speaker 4: back After, News sport And weather at eight. O'clock squeaky door.

1476
01:22:42,175 --> 01:22:45,455
Speaker 1: Or squeaky Floor get the right advice From Peter wolfgaef

1477
01:22:45,655 --> 01:22:46,975
Speaker 1: the resident builder ON.

1478
01:22:47,135 --> 01:22:51,535
Speaker 4: Newstalksb there was delightful conversation With james just prior to the.

1479
01:22:51,615 --> 01:22:54,415
Speaker 4: News sorry that we ran into the news there about

1480
01:22:55,615 --> 01:23:00,135
Speaker 4: talking ABOUT i mentioned using a rebate plane, right which

1481
01:23:00,215 --> 01:23:04,095
Speaker 4: is generally an old fashioned sort of hand plane that you.

1482
01:23:04,335 --> 01:23:06,535
Speaker 4: Use you, know if you think about a set Of french,

1483
01:23:06,615 --> 01:23:09,935
Speaker 4: doors for, example where they close together because you don't

1484
01:23:09,975 --> 01:23:12,455
Speaker 4: have a million there that they close, against so they

1485
01:23:12,735 --> 01:23:15,815
Speaker 4: each one has a rebate on. It the first one

1486
01:23:15,855 --> 01:23:19,495
Speaker 4: that closes it's on the, inside the second one that closes,

1487
01:23:19,575 --> 01:23:23,975
Speaker 4: overlaps and sometimes when they move a little bit and

1488
01:23:24,055 --> 01:23:26,015
Speaker 4: you might need to ease, them you've got to get

1489
01:23:26,095 --> 01:23:29,335
Speaker 4: in there in that right into the corner and take

1490
01:23:29,375 --> 01:23:33,535
Speaker 4: a little bit of timber off and you can get

1491
01:23:33,615 --> 01:23:37,455
Speaker 4: some power planers that will allow you to do a

1492
01:23:37,535 --> 01:23:41,855
Speaker 4: rebate that, deep but not. Many otherwise you could try sanding,

1493
01:23:41,895 --> 01:23:44,695
Speaker 4: it but then that's uneven in the sense that it's

1494
01:23:44,775 --> 01:23:47,095
Speaker 4: really hard to get a flat surface when you're sanding

1495
01:23:47,215 --> 01:23:51,215
Speaker 4: something like. That you can set up a circular saw

1496
01:23:51,455 --> 01:23:53,895
Speaker 4: and a guide and try and take a couple of

1497
01:23:54,015 --> 01:23:58,135
Speaker 4: millimeters off just in one particular, area or if you're

1498
01:23:58,135 --> 01:24:00,775
Speaker 4: an old fashioned chippy like, me you go into your

1499
01:24:00,815 --> 01:24:03,415
Speaker 4: box of tools and drag out A i don't, know

1500
01:24:03,575 --> 01:24:07,615
Speaker 4: fifty sixty year old rebate plane THAT i probably use

1501
01:24:07,775 --> 01:24:11,455
Speaker 4: once or twice a blue, moon to be. Fair but

1502
01:24:11,975 --> 01:24:13,535
Speaker 4: WHEN i do need to use, it AS i did,

1503
01:24:13,655 --> 01:24:18,175
Speaker 4: yesterday it worked and it worked, beautifully and THEN i

1504
01:24:18,215 --> 01:24:19,815
Speaker 4: Thought i'd better get the right, name SO i had

1505
01:24:19,855 --> 01:24:23,615
Speaker 4: a look online just to identify the correct. Terminology so

1506
01:24:23,615 --> 01:24:26,375
Speaker 4: it's a rebate rabbit. Plane mine happens to be A carts,

1507
01:24:26,415 --> 01:24:28,455
Speaker 4: one which is a particular brand from back in the.

1508
01:24:28,535 --> 01:24:31,815
Speaker 4: Day AND i found actually one for sale on a

1509
01:24:33,175 --> 01:24:37,175
Speaker 4: vintage tool. Website and of, course ONCE i found one

1510
01:24:37,615 --> 01:24:41,615
Speaker 4: vintage hand, PLANE i then discovered that they had seven

1511
01:24:41,695 --> 01:24:44,615
Speaker 4: pages of vintage hand planes for, sale And i'm starting

1512
01:24:44,655 --> 01:24:47,615
Speaker 4: to look at, those Going DO i need A french

1513
01:24:47,855 --> 01:24:52,295
Speaker 4: cabinet maker's chair? PLANE i suspect THAT i. Do it's

1514
01:24:52,335 --> 01:24:55,095
Speaker 4: a very beautiful piece of. Kit DO i want to

1515
01:24:55,095 --> 01:24:58,975
Speaker 4: get an Old marple's router? Plane BECAUSE i remember using

1516
01:24:59,015 --> 01:25:03,215
Speaker 4: those in woodwork either in nine seventy eight or nineteen

1517
01:25:03,255 --> 01:25:07,695
Speaker 4: seventy nine WHEN i lasted woodwork at. School so, anyway

1518
01:25:07,895 --> 01:25:10,855
Speaker 4: it works. Right it's old gear and it. Works speaking

1519
01:25:10,855 --> 01:25:13,055
Speaker 4: about old gear that, works So one of the jobs

1520
01:25:13,095 --> 01:25:17,615
Speaker 4: this week was to replace tongue and groove decking on

1521
01:25:18,735 --> 01:25:23,255
Speaker 4: a traditional villa, veranda so six meters, wide just over

1522
01:25:23,335 --> 01:25:27,695
Speaker 4: two point four, depth so it's about forty eight boards

1523
01:25:27,775 --> 01:25:30,135
Speaker 4: that have to be fitted. Down so pulled up the

1524
01:25:30,215 --> 01:25:33,495
Speaker 4: old boards because they'd started to, rot pulled up half of,

1525
01:25:33,535 --> 01:25:36,055
Speaker 4: them set out the first, one and then started laying.

1526
01:25:36,095 --> 01:25:38,055
Speaker 4: Them and with tongue and, groove you need to clamp

1527
01:25:38,095 --> 01:25:41,855
Speaker 4: it together a little, bit and typically on most site

1528
01:25:42,175 --> 01:25:44,775
Speaker 4: sites you'll screw a block down onto the top of

1529
01:25:44,815 --> 01:25:46,935
Speaker 4: the joyst make up some wedges a little bit of

1530
01:25:46,975 --> 01:25:50,175
Speaker 4: offcut so you don't damage the tongue or the, groove

1531
01:25:50,335 --> 01:25:53,535
Speaker 4: and then knock those together and that'll draw the boards,

1532
01:25:53,535 --> 01:25:57,975
Speaker 4: together fix those, off reset and move. On EXCEPT i

1533
01:25:58,175 --> 01:26:02,015
Speaker 4: bought a couple of years ago some record flooring, clamps

1534
01:26:03,015 --> 01:26:07,815
Speaker 4: again really old, fashioned that have kit heavy cast and

1535
01:26:07,975 --> 01:26:10,015
Speaker 4: they sit over the top of the. Joist so they've

1536
01:26:10,015 --> 01:26:12,615
Speaker 4: got some clamps that. Activators you put pressure on, them

1537
01:26:12,975 --> 01:26:16,255
Speaker 4: and then a winder at the top which extends a

1538
01:26:16,655 --> 01:26:19,495
Speaker 4: piston basically or a thread with a block on it

1539
01:26:19,655 --> 01:26:23,255
Speaker 4: that then clamps the boards. Together the guys reckon first

1540
01:26:23,335 --> 01:26:25,095
Speaker 4: on the guys THAT i had working with, me had

1541
01:26:25,135 --> 01:26:28,575
Speaker 4: ever used them. Reckon it probably saved them half a

1542
01:26:28,695 --> 01:26:32,855
Speaker 4: day of labor in using these flooring. Clamps if you've got,

1543
01:26:32,935 --> 01:26:34,895
Speaker 4: them hang on to. Them if you don't know What

1544
01:26:34,975 --> 01:26:37,775
Speaker 4: i'm talking, about look them up online record flooring. Clamps

1545
01:26:38,175 --> 01:26:40,055
Speaker 4: what amazed me today WHEN i did go and look for,

1546
01:26:40,095 --> 01:26:42,375
Speaker 4: them is that you can buy new ones as.

1547
01:26:42,455 --> 01:26:42,615
Speaker 5: Well.

1548
01:26:42,735 --> 01:26:44,775
Speaker 4: MINOR i don't know how. OLD i bought them from

1549
01:26:44,815 --> 01:26:47,335
Speaker 4: a carpenter who was retiring a couple of years. Ago

1550
01:26:48,175 --> 01:26:51,055
Speaker 4: it took me about five years to find a set

1551
01:26:51,415 --> 01:26:54,095
Speaker 4: searching on trade, me BUT i did find, them And

1552
01:26:54,175 --> 01:26:56,975
Speaker 4: i'm delighted THAT i had, them and my brother was

1553
01:26:57,095 --> 01:26:59,575
Speaker 4: using them a couple of weeks. Ago these guys using

1554
01:26:59,575 --> 01:27:01,455
Speaker 4: them this, week their boss is probably going to borrow

1555
01:27:01,495 --> 01:27:03,495
Speaker 4: them in a couple of weeks. Time, oh eight hundred

1556
01:27:03,495 --> 01:27:05,255
Speaker 4: and eighty ten. Eighty let's get into the talk back

1557
01:27:05,295 --> 01:27:08,175
Speaker 4: through till eight Thirty all things building. Construction couple of

1558
01:27:08,535 --> 01:27:11,335
Speaker 4: actually a couple of quick announcements. Too next week on the,

1559
01:27:11,375 --> 01:27:16,335
Speaker 4: SHOW i had an opportunity to talk insurance with some insurance.

1560
01:27:16,495 --> 01:27:20,215
Speaker 4: Experts this is around what sort of insurance do you

1561
01:27:20,295 --> 01:27:23,655
Speaker 4: need if you're renovating or extending or doing work at.

1562
01:27:23,695 --> 01:27:26,175
Speaker 4: Home so we talked about public, liability we talked about

1563
01:27:26,215 --> 01:27:29,295
Speaker 4: contract works, insurance we talked about you, know at what

1564
01:27:29,615 --> 01:27:31,855
Speaker 4: time do you need to contact your. Insurance so we've

1565
01:27:31,975 --> 01:27:33,935
Speaker 4: got a summary of all of those. Things we'll do

1566
01:27:34,055 --> 01:27:36,735
Speaker 4: that next week on the. Show and then last week

1567
01:27:36,735 --> 01:27:38,935
Speaker 4: at around this, time we were talking with The minister

1568
01:27:39,215 --> 01:27:44,255
Speaker 4: Of building In, Construction Chris PINK, mp and we did

1569
01:27:44,295 --> 01:27:46,935
Speaker 4: that over the. Phone chris has been very generous with

1570
01:27:47,055 --> 01:27:48,535
Speaker 4: his time and, said, Look i'm happy to come in

1571
01:27:48,575 --> 01:27:51,735
Speaker 4: and take. Calls So i'm pleased to say That Chris,

1572
01:27:51,855 --> 01:27:54,135
Speaker 4: pink The, minister will be in the studio with me

1573
01:27:54,335 --> 01:27:56,575
Speaker 4: On may the, eleventh so a couple of weeks away

1574
01:27:56,935 --> 01:27:59,015
Speaker 4: for an, hour So i'll be able to ask some.

1575
01:27:59,135 --> 01:28:01,695
Speaker 4: Questions you'll be able to ask some questions as, Well

1576
01:28:01,775 --> 01:28:04,935
Speaker 4: so looking forward to that on the eleventh Of. May

1577
01:28:05,535 --> 01:28:06,815
Speaker 4: hub good morning to.

1578
01:28:06,895 --> 01:28:10,055
Speaker 17: You, yeah, Morning. Pete, yeah it's been a bit of

1579
01:28:10,095 --> 01:28:13,575
Speaker 17: a weight but you know that's, right just a bit

1580
01:28:13,615 --> 01:28:14,095
Speaker 17: of useless.

1581
01:28:14,135 --> 01:28:18,215
Speaker 4: Information but you talk about that router router, Plane, yes.

1582
01:28:18,415 --> 01:28:21,135
Speaker 17: Yeah that one you're. Using. NOW i had an uncle

1583
01:28:22,775 --> 01:28:26,215
Speaker 17: and back in the nineteen sixties and he was using

1584
01:28:26,255 --> 01:28:28,295
Speaker 17: that tool and he called it an old woman's. Tooth

1585
01:28:29,655 --> 01:28:31,055
Speaker 17: you'll know exactly What i'm talking.

1586
01:28:31,095 --> 01:28:35,455
Speaker 4: About, oh that's. Fantastic he was a master builder and.

1587
01:28:35,575 --> 01:28:39,375
Speaker 17: Joiner, Yes so that that was WHAT i was going

1588
01:28:39,455 --> 01:28:39,695
Speaker 17: to tell.

1589
01:28:39,775 --> 01:28:43,135
Speaker 4: You AND i think that people who kind of like

1590
01:28:43,895 --> 01:28:47,295
Speaker 4: if you think about going into an old villa and

1591
01:28:47,415 --> 01:28:49,975
Speaker 4: you you walk, around, right and you look at an,

1592
01:28:50,055 --> 01:28:53,055
Speaker 4: architrave which you know is typically about one hundred and

1593
01:28:53,095 --> 01:28:55,895
Speaker 4: twenty five millimeters. Wide it's got a round and then

1594
01:28:55,935 --> 01:28:58,895
Speaker 4: A v and then a flat and then another forty

1595
01:28:58,975 --> 01:29:01,815
Speaker 4: five and then a scollop And, okay a lot of

1596
01:29:01,895 --> 01:29:05,855
Speaker 4: that stuff was run through early steam powered, machines but

1597
01:29:06,495 --> 01:29:09,575
Speaker 4: some of those moldings were also made by people by,

1598
01:29:09,775 --> 01:29:15,535
Speaker 4: hand using planes that had specific blades for specific. Tasks.

1599
01:29:15,695 --> 01:29:20,015
Speaker 4: Right AND i know my old Boss tom has a

1600
01:29:20,095 --> 01:29:23,135
Speaker 4: collection of those, planes which were either his father's or his.

1601
01:29:23,295 --> 01:29:26,495
Speaker 4: Grandfathers so we're probably talking you one hundred and thirty

1602
01:29:26,655 --> 01:29:30,255
Speaker 4: hundred and forty year old beautiful wooden hand planes with

1603
01:29:30,375 --> 01:29:33,215
Speaker 4: all of the different shapes on, them just. Glorious.

1604
01:29:33,575 --> 01:29:35,895
Speaker 17: Right here were those sash windows and that on those

1605
01:29:35,935 --> 01:29:38,335
Speaker 17: old ver THOSE i, mean there's a lot of you, know.

1606
01:29:39,855 --> 01:29:44,495
Speaker 4: Overload molds and rebates and, yeah, yeah, yeah but LOOK

1607
01:29:44,855 --> 01:29:47,095
Speaker 4: i have to, say And i'm sure you'll appreciate this,

1608
01:29:47,255 --> 01:29:49,735
Speaker 4: that you, know LIKE i had to do this little job.

1609
01:29:49,855 --> 01:29:53,735
Speaker 4: YESTERDAY i was in a. RUSH i grabbed this rebate

1610
01:29:53,855 --> 01:29:56,455
Speaker 4: plane AND i used it to be fair and to be,

1611
01:29:56,535 --> 01:29:58,575
Speaker 4: honest it's not as sharp as it should, be but

1612
01:29:58,735 --> 01:30:03,855
Speaker 4: it worked, Okay AND i, thought, man that's. Fantastic i've taken,

1613
01:30:03,975 --> 01:30:06,495
Speaker 4: something this old tool That i've had on to all

1614
01:30:06,535 --> 01:30:09,295
Speaker 4: of these, years and WHEN i needed, it it did

1615
01:30:09,375 --> 01:30:10,535
Speaker 4: the job. Perfectly so.

1616
01:30:12,415 --> 01:30:15,015
Speaker 17: You say it's called a rabbit, thing but you can

1617
01:30:15,055 --> 01:30:17,375
Speaker 17: see why it would be because it's got two rabbit

1618
01:30:17,455 --> 01:30:21,175
Speaker 17: looking teeth sticking. Down probably, yeah, yeah the, Reason, yeah,

1619
01:30:21,215 --> 01:30:21,655
Speaker 17: no they.

1620
01:30:21,815 --> 01:30:23,855
Speaker 4: Gorgeous WHAT i need To i'll go and find is

1621
01:30:23,895 --> 01:30:26,415
Speaker 4: a little bull nose rebate. PLANE i don't have one of,

1622
01:30:26,495 --> 01:30:28,775
Speaker 4: those So i'll be hoped for one of. Those, now

1623
01:30:29,215 --> 01:30:30,015
Speaker 4: lovely to talk with.

1624
01:30:30,095 --> 01:30:33,855
Speaker 17: You, now, Listen, pete don't forget to do the Divine

1625
01:30:33,975 --> 01:30:39,135
Speaker 17: mercy no vena From Good friday To Mercy.

1626
01:30:39,215 --> 01:30:42,255
Speaker 4: Sunday, yes you're, right and today Is Palm. Sunday and

1627
01:30:42,335 --> 01:30:46,215
Speaker 4: given that you mention, IT i just realized that forty

1628
01:30:46,375 --> 01:30:49,735
Speaker 4: years ago On Palm. SUNDAY i was actually In rome

1629
01:30:50,695 --> 01:30:55,575
Speaker 4: at mass At Saint Peter's square BECAUSE i was there

1630
01:30:55,855 --> 01:30:58,655
Speaker 4: Representing New. Zealand it Was International year Of Young, people

1631
01:30:59,175 --> 01:31:03,815
Speaker 4: AND i HAPPENS i gave a gift to Then Pope

1632
01:31:03,855 --> 01:31:06,775
Speaker 4: John paul the second on behalf of The Newsic Catholic,

1633
01:31:06,855 --> 01:31:08,815
Speaker 4: church which was kind of. Cool so that Was Palm

1634
01:31:08,895 --> 01:31:12,535
Speaker 4: sunday forty years. Ago, yep there you. Go nice to

1635
01:31:12,575 --> 01:31:12,935
Speaker 4: talk to you.

1636
01:31:13,455 --> 01:31:13,695
Speaker 8: All our.

1637
01:31:13,735 --> 01:31:17,095
Speaker 4: Best take care byah. Think, yeah it was a great it.

1638
01:31:17,295 --> 01:31:19,535
Speaker 4: Was it was a fantastic trip and a tremendous, honor

1639
01:31:19,615 --> 01:31:22,855
Speaker 4: to be. Fair stick out that. Photo it's out there.

1640
01:31:22,895 --> 01:31:26,575
Speaker 4: Somewhere fifteen minutes after. Eight remember we've got Red kline

1641
01:31:26,615 --> 01:31:29,095
Speaker 4: pass coming up at eight. Thirty if you've got any

1642
01:31:29,135 --> 01:31:32,615
Speaker 4: gardening or anthropological, questions you can call through from eight

1643
01:31:32,615 --> 01:31:36,055
Speaker 4: to thirty this. Morning, oh eight hundred and eighty ten

1644
01:31:36,175 --> 01:31:37,975
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to. Call one of the things

1645
01:31:38,015 --> 01:31:39,855
Speaker 4: we talked about today on the show as well is

1646
01:31:41,615 --> 01:31:45,055
Speaker 4: sort of being able to build without necessarily requiring a building.

1647
01:31:45,135 --> 01:31:47,815
Speaker 4: Consent this is very much in the public mind at the.

1648
01:31:47,895 --> 01:31:50,775
Speaker 4: Moment there's lots of talk from the government about changing

1649
01:31:50,855 --> 01:31:54,015
Speaker 4: legislation to allow certain types of being buildings to be

1650
01:31:54,095 --> 01:31:57,695
Speaker 4: built without necessarily requiring a building, consent you can still

1651
01:31:57,735 --> 01:31:59,975
Speaker 4: go and get, one but there might be another pathway

1652
01:32:00,695 --> 01:32:02,655
Speaker 4: and someone's text through to, say, hey, look how do

1653
01:32:03,055 --> 01:32:06,815
Speaker 4: owners build? It or do owner builders have any trouble

1654
01:32:06,855 --> 01:32:10,135
Speaker 4: when selling an owner built house considering that they generally

1655
01:32:10,215 --> 01:32:13,295
Speaker 4: won't be qualified and they would be liable for any warranty.

1656
01:32:13,455 --> 01:32:20,055
Speaker 4: Issues that's a slightly different situation to what we might

1657
01:32:20,135 --> 01:32:24,455
Speaker 4: have coming. Up but so at the, moment restricted building,

1658
01:32:24,535 --> 01:32:27,255
Speaker 4: work any work that needs a building consent can only

1659
01:32:27,335 --> 01:32:30,695
Speaker 4: be done or supervised by a licensed building practitioner unless

1660
01:32:30,775 --> 01:32:34,615
Speaker 4: you get a owner builder, exemption which you can do

1661
01:32:34,975 --> 01:32:35,735
Speaker 4: under The. Act so.

1662
01:32:37,255 --> 01:32:37,575
Speaker 10: But it's.

1663
01:32:37,735 --> 01:32:40,655
Speaker 4: Limited you can only apply for. ONE i think it's

1664
01:32:40,695 --> 01:32:43,255
Speaker 4: every two or three. Years BUT i would imagine that

1665
01:32:43,375 --> 01:32:47,175
Speaker 4: in that instance you're still getting council. Inspections you'll still

1666
01:32:47,215 --> 01:32:49,495
Speaker 4: get A ccc for the. Building it's just that the

1667
01:32:50,015 --> 01:32:53,415
Speaker 4: person who would normally be THE lbp. Isn't they're an owner.

1668
01:32:53,455 --> 01:32:56,215
Speaker 4: Builder so in that sense that's quite different to what they're,

1669
01:32:56,255 --> 01:33:00,135
Speaker 4: proposing which is no building consent so no council. Inspection

1670
01:33:00,295 --> 01:33:02,975
Speaker 4: so if you've finished a building, somehow you have to

1671
01:33:03,015 --> 01:33:05,175
Speaker 4: be able to PROVE i think to the new, OWNERS

1672
01:33:05,575 --> 01:33:07,775
Speaker 4: i built this according to the code and here's the

1673
01:33:07,855 --> 01:33:09,695
Speaker 4: reasons WHY i believe that to be the. Case so

1674
01:33:10,135 --> 01:33:12,295
Speaker 4: that'll be an interesting one to see how that works.

1675
01:33:12,335 --> 01:33:13,975
Speaker 4: Out that's the sort of thing that we'll be able

1676
01:33:14,015 --> 01:33:16,895
Speaker 4: to discuss with The Minister Chris pink when he joins

1677
01:33:16,975 --> 01:33:20,095
Speaker 4: us in the studio on the eleventh Of may seventeen

1678
01:33:20,215 --> 01:33:22,615
Speaker 4: after eight back With pauline.

1679
01:33:22,255 --> 01:33:22,615
Speaker 9: In just a.

1680
01:33:22,695 --> 01:33:26,455
Speaker 1: Moment we're helping you get THOSE diy projects done. Right

1681
01:33:26,695 --> 01:33:31,295
Speaker 1: the resident builder With Peter wolfgart call. Eighteen you've talk

1682
01:33:31,375 --> 01:33:32,935
Speaker 1: Zid be your news.

1683
01:33:32,815 --> 01:33:35,775
Speaker 4: Talk Zid be And PAULINE a very good morning to.

1684
01:33:35,815 --> 01:33:39,055
Speaker 18: You and good morning to. You i've just been listening

1685
01:33:39,095 --> 01:33:42,495
Speaker 18: to the radio and you might be solving my. Problems my,

1686
01:33:42,655 --> 01:33:45,615
Speaker 18: husband who passed away three years, ago had been.

1687
01:33:45,535 --> 01:33:46,095
Speaker 8: An, Engineer.

1688
01:33:46,135 --> 01:33:50,855
Speaker 18: Rett he also had always been an avid tool. Collector,

1689
01:33:50,935 --> 01:33:54,935
Speaker 18: yes so much. SO i have a basement of old

1690
01:33:55,015 --> 01:33:58,775
Speaker 18: tools and they're all, polished all, shiny all in working.

1691
01:33:58,975 --> 01:34:02,095
Speaker 18: ORDER i have no idea what to do with. Them

1692
01:34:02,175 --> 01:34:04,695
Speaker 18: he always said to, me don't you dare go to

1693
01:34:04,775 --> 01:34:11,455
Speaker 18: the charity. Shop i'll come back. Thoughts, yeah, YEAH i

1694
01:34:11,495 --> 01:34:12,975
Speaker 18: don't know where to go AND i just told you

1695
01:34:13,135 --> 01:34:17,135
Speaker 18: talking about, it and it's probably probably is old, builders

1696
01:34:17,215 --> 01:34:17,975
Speaker 18: isn't it older?

1697
01:34:18,055 --> 01:34:22,615
Speaker 4: Builders although you, KNOW i mean there is a younger

1698
01:34:22,695 --> 01:34:27,055
Speaker 4: generation that still, loves you, know the traditional. Crafts SO

1699
01:34:27,415 --> 01:34:31,255
Speaker 4: i think we are actually seeing sort of a rise in,

1700
01:34:31,375 --> 01:34:37,855
Speaker 4: popularity let's, say of traditional woodworking techniques and younger, people

1701
01:34:38,135 --> 01:34:41,415
Speaker 4: not just trades, people but younger men and women who are, going,

1702
01:34:41,455 --> 01:34:43,815
Speaker 4: ACTUALLY i really love that craft AND i want to

1703
01:34:43,855 --> 01:34:46,655
Speaker 4: do something that takes me time That i'm more connected

1704
01:34:46,735 --> 01:34:49,175
Speaker 4: with and so. On and that's that's what you get

1705
01:34:49,215 --> 01:34:50,415
Speaker 4: with hand, tools, right that's WHAT.

1706
01:34:50,455 --> 01:34:51,055
Speaker 8: I like about.

1707
01:34:51,095 --> 01:34:56,255
Speaker 4: Them, look CAN i suggest that if obviously there's no

1708
01:34:56,335 --> 01:34:58,735
Speaker 4: one in the immediate family that wants to take?

1709
01:34:58,775 --> 01:35:02,855
Speaker 18: Them and SOMETIMES i have a brother in law who's

1710
01:35:02,895 --> 01:35:05,375
Speaker 18: the same age as my, husband and it also is

1711
01:35:05,415 --> 01:35:08,375
Speaker 18: a collector of Old, yes and here he's in the

1712
01:35:08,455 --> 01:35:12,935
Speaker 18: men's shed and he, said he, said because i'd strike

1713
01:35:12,975 --> 01:35:14,735
Speaker 18: chatt into the, mensched he, Said or don't do, that

1714
01:35:14,815 --> 01:35:18,095
Speaker 18: because they've got so Many if we don't know where snowed, Under,

1715
01:35:19,015 --> 01:35:19,975
Speaker 18: yeah that's that's the.

1716
01:35:20,095 --> 01:35:23,775
Speaker 4: PROBLEM i tell you what if maybe he would have

1717
01:35:23,935 --> 01:35:27,495
Speaker 4: some contacts, though because what there are is quite a

1718
01:35:27,655 --> 01:35:33,535
Speaker 4: network of antique tool collectors, clubs, Right AND i remember

1719
01:35:33,655 --> 01:35:35,615
Speaker 4: years AGO i actually went to a. Meeting it was

1720
01:35:35,655 --> 01:35:39,695
Speaker 4: at was it Was Continental stairs actually at their, factory

1721
01:35:40,015 --> 01:35:41,575
Speaker 4: and it was a night time and there was a

1722
01:35:41,615 --> 01:35:44,455
Speaker 4: group of about ten or, fifteen as you can, expect

1723
01:35:44,575 --> 01:35:48,095
Speaker 4: old blokes sitting around showing their latest tools and talking

1724
01:35:48,175 --> 01:35:50,695
Speaker 4: about old. Tools SO i just wonder whether if someone

1725
01:35:50,735 --> 01:35:53,695
Speaker 4: you know can plug you into that network and then

1726
01:35:54,015 --> 01:35:56,735
Speaker 4: maybe there's someone there who can help you with, disposal

1727
01:35:56,855 --> 01:36:01,055
Speaker 4: because you know what you might find throw them? Away oh, no, no,

1728
01:36:01,175 --> 01:36:03,895
Speaker 4: no that would be. Tragic AND i think sometimes what

1729
01:36:04,015 --> 01:36:06,255
Speaker 4: you might find is someone will be able TO identi

1730
01:36:06,615 --> 01:36:09,375
Speaker 4: that these are quite, collectible in which case they might

1731
01:36:09,455 --> 01:36:12,295
Speaker 4: help you sell, them or that there'll be a collector

1732
01:36:12,375 --> 01:36:16,175
Speaker 4: who could help with disposal to ensure that they. DON'T i, mean,

1733
01:36:16,215 --> 01:36:18,455
Speaker 4: look if they did go to, it, well if you

1734
01:36:18,535 --> 01:36:20,375
Speaker 4: were going to go to a charity, Shop i'd seduce

1735
01:36:20,455 --> 01:36:23,535
Speaker 4: someway Like habitat For humanity for their restore stores because

1736
01:36:23,535 --> 01:36:26,095
Speaker 4: they do a lot of building. Works i've dropped off

1737
01:36:26,175 --> 01:36:29,175
Speaker 4: lots of old tools or tools that are surplus to requirement.

1738
01:36:29,255 --> 01:36:33,295
Speaker 4: There BUT i, think see if you can plug into

1739
01:36:33,375 --> 01:36:36,535
Speaker 4: some of these antique tool collectors clubs and that might

1740
01:36:36,575 --> 01:36:38,855
Speaker 4: be a good way. Forward so do you THINK i

1741
01:36:39,015 --> 01:36:42,655
Speaker 4: just just Do google search or perhaps talk to brother

1742
01:36:42,695 --> 01:36:45,015
Speaker 4: in law and, say you, know if he's involved with men,

1743
01:36:45,135 --> 01:36:48,855
Speaker 4: sheds that's probably not a bad place to. Start thank

1744
01:36:48,895 --> 01:36:49,175
Speaker 4: you so.

1745
01:36:49,415 --> 01:36:51,935
Speaker 18: MUCH i Mean i've been three years now and they're

1746
01:36:51,935 --> 01:36:52,415
Speaker 18: still all that.

1747
01:36:52,735 --> 01:36:57,175
Speaker 4: Now also In, auckland there is a community workshop based

1748
01:36:57,255 --> 01:37:01,575
Speaker 4: in the, city which is a community workshop that allows

1749
01:37:01,615 --> 01:37:03,615
Speaker 4: people to come and work, there but they also have

1750
01:37:03,815 --> 01:37:07,335
Speaker 4: like a tool library where you can take. Tools, right

1751
01:37:08,775 --> 01:37:10,615
Speaker 4: so that there is the beginning of this sort of

1752
01:37:11,295 --> 01:37:16,055
Speaker 4: like this sort of, movement you, know where people want

1753
01:37:16,175 --> 01:37:19,575
Speaker 4: to relearn those traditional skills and being able to use

1754
01:37:19,655 --> 01:37:23,535
Speaker 4: traditional tools for that is. Essential so you, know if

1755
01:37:23,575 --> 01:37:25,255
Speaker 4: you can get either do it yourself or get someone

1756
01:37:25,295 --> 01:37:28,375
Speaker 4: to help, You i'm sure you'll find a really good

1757
01:37:28,455 --> 01:37:29,095
Speaker 4: home for those.

1758
01:37:29,215 --> 01:37:31,175
Speaker 18: Tools oh thank, you because it's a.

1759
01:37:31,215 --> 01:37:31,935
Speaker 4: Pleasure how.

1760
01:37:32,055 --> 01:37:35,535
Speaker 18: Beautiful BUT i just inform them in my, HOUSE i.

1761
01:37:35,735 --> 01:37:39,375
Speaker 4: Understand, yeah absolutely lovely to talk with. You all the

1762
01:37:39,415 --> 01:37:43,455
Speaker 4: best your, time take. Care, Hi Hey, debbie how are

1763
01:37:43,495 --> 01:37:44,055
Speaker 4: you this? Morning?

1764
01:37:45,175 --> 01:37:46,455
Speaker 19: Hi i'm, Good how are you?

1765
01:37:46,855 --> 01:37:47,295
Speaker 4: Good thank?

1766
01:37:47,335 --> 01:37:47,775
Speaker 13: You what's?

1767
01:37:47,855 --> 01:37:53,375
Speaker 19: Up we've had some contracting work done at our. House the,

1768
01:37:53,495 --> 01:37:58,335
Speaker 19: contractor we used this as last. Job the work that

1769
01:37:58,455 --> 01:37:59,815
Speaker 19: he's done has now.

1770
01:38:01,415 --> 01:38:01,735
Speaker 13: Become.

1771
01:38:01,855 --> 01:38:07,695
Speaker 19: Boulty we have no. Problems here's no. Problems he knows it's.

1772
01:38:07,775 --> 01:38:11,295
Speaker 19: Faulty he's a really nice guy and stuff like. That

1773
01:38:12,015 --> 01:38:15,775
Speaker 19: but my question, Was i'm not sure that he had

1774
01:38:15,815 --> 01:38:18,375
Speaker 19: any sort of. Insurance but now he's wound up his,

1775
01:38:18,495 --> 01:38:24,975
Speaker 19: company can he still claim on his? Insurance if he has,

1776
01:38:25,135 --> 01:38:30,815
Speaker 19: insurance it's probably stopped his insurance. Now but this was

1777
01:38:30,855 --> 01:38:32,655
Speaker 19: done prior to he found up his.

1778
01:38:32,775 --> 01:38:33,095
Speaker 10: Company.

1779
01:38:33,535 --> 01:38:37,535
Speaker 4: YEAH i know that some insurances have what they call

1780
01:38:37,615 --> 01:38:41,775
Speaker 4: a run on. Policy, right so even if you've stopped,

1781
01:38:41,855 --> 01:38:47,575
Speaker 4: trading if the jobs that were done when the policy was,

1782
01:38:47,815 --> 01:38:53,255
Speaker 4: current you as the owner of the property can still

1783
01:38:53,335 --> 01:38:56,335
Speaker 4: make a claim or a claim can still be received

1784
01:38:56,855 --> 01:38:59,295
Speaker 4: on that for maybe a period of up to ten. Years.

1785
01:38:59,775 --> 01:39:02,695
Speaker 4: Now i'm pretty sure as well that some of those

1786
01:39:02,815 --> 01:39:06,575
Speaker 4: run on policies would require the contract to continue paying

1787
01:39:06,735 --> 01:39:12,095
Speaker 4: a premium which might diminish over. Time, yeah SO i

1788
01:39:12,175 --> 01:39:14,735
Speaker 4: guess you could look at. THAT i guess he still

1789
01:39:14,775 --> 01:39:18,975
Speaker 4: has responsibilities under The Consumer Guarantees act as, well so

1790
01:39:19,175 --> 01:39:23,175
Speaker 4: not just The Building. Act the other thing, is, then

1791
01:39:23,415 --> 01:39:28,615
Speaker 4: was it building work that was. Done, no, okay, sorry

1792
01:39:28,655 --> 01:39:31,535
Speaker 4: what sort of work was? It concrete?

1793
01:39:31,575 --> 01:39:31,735
Speaker 14: Work?

1794
01:39:31,855 --> 01:39:35,975
Speaker 4: Okay you don't necessarily need to be a licensed building

1795
01:39:36,015 --> 01:39:39,455
Speaker 4: practitioner to do. That but if they were a licensed

1796
01:39:39,495 --> 01:39:42,935
Speaker 4: building practitioner and you, can you could either ask them

1797
01:39:43,055 --> 01:39:45,855
Speaker 4: or you could just look up their name online and

1798
01:39:45,975 --> 01:39:47,935
Speaker 4: that'll tell you within a couple of seconds whether or

1799
01:39:47,935 --> 01:39:52,015
Speaker 4: not they're AN. Lbp then they still have some responsibilities

1800
01:39:52,855 --> 01:39:56,055
Speaker 4: for their work. Afterwards but you, know concrete, work if

1801
01:39:56,095 --> 01:39:58,015
Speaker 4: it's not part of a, building if it's not part

1802
01:39:58,055 --> 01:40:03,695
Speaker 4: of restricted building, work isn't covered by the legislation regarding

1803
01:40:03,775 --> 01:40:06,895
Speaker 4: restricted building, Work so there's probably no warranty.

1804
01:40:07,055 --> 01:40:15,935
Speaker 19: There if he knows it's, sorry, YEAH i admitted.

1805
01:40:15,975 --> 01:40:17,215
Speaker 17: IT i JUST i just don't.

1806
01:40:17,295 --> 01:40:19,815
Speaker 19: KNOW i don't know whether he's thought about taming on his.

1807
01:40:19,895 --> 01:40:22,575
Speaker 19: INSURANCE i don't know whether he's got insurance OR i

1808
01:40:22,695 --> 01:40:22,895
Speaker 19: just Do.

1809
01:40:24,215 --> 01:40:27,775
Speaker 4: It would sound unusual if he had, Insurance i'm, thinking

1810
01:40:28,415 --> 01:40:31,775
Speaker 4: or that he had a comprehensive enough insurance policy to

1811
01:40:32,255 --> 01:40:35,575
Speaker 4: allow those sorts of claims after the work has been

1812
01:40:35,615 --> 01:40:39,415
Speaker 4: finished and possibly after he's wound up his. Business what,

1813
01:40:39,895 --> 01:40:43,055
Speaker 4: just very, briefly what's the extent of the poor quality?

1814
01:40:43,175 --> 01:40:45,375
Speaker 4: Work what's the, nature.

1815
01:40:46,655 --> 01:40:46,975
Speaker 8: It's all.

1816
01:40:47,055 --> 01:40:48,415
Speaker 19: Cracking there wasn't enough.

1817
01:40:48,295 --> 01:40:50,495
Speaker 9: Cuts put in, it, Right, Okay.

1818
01:40:51,815 --> 01:40:53,815
Speaker 4: So it's not an easy, fix and in, fact the

1819
01:40:54,215 --> 01:40:57,895
Speaker 4: only really acceptable fix is probably to remove it and replace.

1820
01:40:57,935 --> 01:41:01,775
Speaker 4: It and then that's a terribly expensive, process isn't.

1821
01:41:01,775 --> 01:41:01,815
Speaker 10: It.

1822
01:41:02,935 --> 01:41:07,695
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, look you can ask whether there's. INSURANCE i

1823
01:41:07,775 --> 01:41:10,815
Speaker 4: think if there isn't any, insurance which is probably highly,

1824
01:41:10,935 --> 01:41:15,135
Speaker 4: unlikely then your chances of redress are fairly. SMALL i would.

1825
01:41:15,175 --> 01:41:19,015
Speaker 19: Say so if he doesn't have, insurance that's on.

1826
01:41:19,215 --> 01:41:22,295
Speaker 4: Us then if he doesn't have insurance and he's wrapped

1827
01:41:22,375 --> 01:41:26,695
Speaker 4: up his business and you can't convince a court that

1828
01:41:26,895 --> 01:41:31,295
Speaker 4: he is personally liable for the, work then, yeah it

1829
01:41:31,335 --> 01:41:35,495
Speaker 4: doesn't sound like there's a lot of options for. YOU

1830
01:41:35,655 --> 01:41:39,935
Speaker 4: i don't. Think. YEAH i, mean you, know if you've

1831
01:41:39,975 --> 01:41:42,015
Speaker 4: got a good relationship with a, lawyer it might be worth.

1832
01:41:42,535 --> 01:41:48,135
Speaker 4: Asking BUT i think, unfortunately and with the greatest respect to,

1833
01:41:48,215 --> 01:41:50,975
Speaker 4: lawyers you, know often it'll cost you more with a

1834
01:41:51,095 --> 01:41:55,015
Speaker 4: lawyer to take the case than might be the cost

1835
01:41:55,095 --> 01:41:57,255
Speaker 4: of repairing it in some. Cases AGAIN i say that

1836
01:41:57,335 --> 01:42:02,855
Speaker 4: with respect in which and there's no guaranteed, outcome then, so.

1837
01:42:04,375 --> 01:42:07,415
Speaker 14: But there's no come back on any of this sort

1838
01:42:07,495 --> 01:42:09,855
Speaker 14: of work unless you go through a.

1839
01:42:09,935 --> 01:42:12,855
Speaker 4: Court unless you go through the, court you could try

1840
01:42:12,855 --> 01:42:18,775
Speaker 4: to dispute. Stribunal it's a bit more, affordable AND i

1841
01:42:18,895 --> 01:42:21,135
Speaker 4: guess in the first instance you could see whether there's.

1842
01:42:21,215 --> 01:42:24,335
Speaker 4: Insurance but my sense is that that's really.

1843
01:42:24,415 --> 01:42:27,735
Speaker 10: Unlikely, wow, okay.

1844
01:42:29,695 --> 01:42:32,015
Speaker 4: It, was you, Know AND i mean this is probably

1845
01:42:32,095 --> 01:42:34,575
Speaker 4: worthy of further, discussion and certainly it's going to be

1846
01:42:34,655 --> 01:42:37,655
Speaker 4: something That i'll raise with the. Minister is you, know

1847
01:42:37,895 --> 01:42:41,855
Speaker 4: should we be moving to a place where all contractors

1848
01:42:42,055 --> 01:42:46,615
Speaker 4: doing work require? Insurance like right, now you don't have

1849
01:42:46,815 --> 01:42:49,415
Speaker 4: to be insured to be doing work like. That you

1850
01:42:49,495 --> 01:42:51,935
Speaker 4: don't have to take out contract works, insurance you don't

1851
01:42:51,975 --> 01:42:54,735
Speaker 4: have to have you, know possibly you don't even have

1852
01:42:54,775 --> 01:42:56,415
Speaker 4: to have public well you. Don't you don't have to

1853
01:42:56,455 --> 01:43:00,055
Speaker 4: have public liability to trade as you know in the construction.

1854
01:43:00,175 --> 01:43:07,735
Speaker 4: Area so maybe that's what we need to move. Towards, yeah, okay, alrighty, hey,

1855
01:43:07,775 --> 01:43:10,055
Speaker 4: look let us know how you get. On BUT i

1856
01:43:10,215 --> 01:43:14,535
Speaker 4: THINK i can't be terribly positive about that. Unfortunately.

1857
01:43:15,575 --> 01:43:17,695
Speaker 9: No, yeah, okay thank you.

1858
01:43:17,855 --> 01:43:20,655
Speaker 4: All you have a great. Day take care bother think.

1859
01:43:21,255 --> 01:43:24,855
Speaker 4: Radio let's jump into the. Garden rude climb past is standing.

1860
01:43:25,095 --> 01:43:27,215
Speaker 4: By thank you to those people of text with regard

1861
01:43:27,295 --> 01:43:33,775
Speaker 4: to the tools and those sorts of. Things, gosh now

1862
01:43:33,855 --> 01:43:35,855
Speaker 4: someone wants to get in. CONTACT i tell you what, If,

1863
01:43:36,295 --> 01:43:38,935
Speaker 4: pauline if you're still, listening if you don't mind giving

1864
01:43:39,015 --> 01:43:42,495
Speaker 4: us call back and leaving me your. Number if someone contacts,

1865
01:43:42,575 --> 01:43:46,055
Speaker 4: me Then I'll i'll check that out and could could

1866
01:43:46,135 --> 01:43:48,215
Speaker 4: link you. Up so had a little bit of interest

1867
01:43:48,255 --> 01:43:51,255
Speaker 4: in that, Radio let's jump into the. Garden rut is

1868
01:43:51,295 --> 01:43:53,295
Speaker 4: on standby if you'd like to call and talk to

1869
01:43:53,375 --> 01:43:56,815
Speaker 4: Rud the number is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty good.

1870
01:43:57,015 --> 01:44:00,575
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