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Speaker 1: Government's preparing its response to the Royal Commission into Abuse

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Speaker 1: in State Care report, which was released yesterday. You would

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Speaker 1: have heard about this more than it's six hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: in care. Two hundred thousand were abused, that's one in three.

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Speaker 1: There are one hundred and thirty eight recommendations in this report,

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Speaker 1: so a lot to respond to news talks there be.

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Speaker 1: Political editor Jason Walls is with us this morning. Jason,

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Speaker 1: Good morning. Derek Ching in the Herald did a great

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Speaker 1: peace on this. Many of these recommendations seem to fly

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Speaker 1: in the face of the government's policy platform or agenda.

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Speaker 2: Yes, good morning. There are a number of things that

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Speaker 2: were recommended in the report that do overlap in some

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Speaker 2: ways with what the government is doing today in terms

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Speaker 2: of what its policy agenda is. For example, I mean

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Speaker 2: a few people have made the point that the abuse

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Speaker 2: in state care, you know, it outlines a number of

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Speaker 2: what happens in state care. And then this weekend the

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Speaker 2: government is launching its military youth academies, which some people

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Speaker 2: have actually drawn a comparison to, and other things to

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Speaker 2: do with the Treaty of Whitehonguy and whatnot. So it's

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Speaker 2: an interesting piece. I would say that, yes, you can

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Speaker 2: see why some people might be making these arguments, but

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Speaker 2: at the same time, I mean arguments around gangs. I

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Speaker 2: think that it's a hard comparison to make at the

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Speaker 2: best time there. But in terms of the for example,

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Speaker 2: this weekend, in terms of the military academy, I think

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Speaker 2: the government will be arguing that they'll be using the

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Speaker 2: report to learn lessons about what happened in the past,

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Speaker 2: so it can't happen again. They've made the case for

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Speaker 2: these academies quite clearly, and I don't think because of

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Speaker 2: the report that they're going to go away. So you

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Speaker 2: can understand why some people are making these comparisons, and

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Speaker 2: I do think that that's why some people that were

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Speaker 2: in the public garalery yesterday yelled shame as Karen Shaw

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Speaker 2: started talking in the House yesterday during her speech.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that many gang members were in state here.

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Speaker 1: Not all of them, and not everyone who was in

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Speaker 1: state here went on to be a gang member, but

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Speaker 1: many members were in state here. Is it going to

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Speaker 1: be politically difficult for the government to pay compensation to

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Speaker 1: people if they are currently in a gang.

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Speaker 2: I think there are a number of hoops that the

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Speaker 2: government has to jump through here, and it's not going

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Speaker 2: to be easy by any means. It was hard to

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Speaker 2: pin the Prime Minister down on this question yesterday in

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Speaker 2: terms of the financial compensation. Obviously it's going to cost

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Speaker 2: a lot of money. He didn't have an estimate on

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Speaker 2: how much, and he said, frankly, it doesn't matter at

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Speaker 2: this stage. The government was willing to do that, but

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Speaker 2: the idea of doing that, I mean, I think that

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Speaker 2: the government will be able to separate the person from

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Speaker 2: the gang when it comes to the sort of situation

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Speaker 2: and be able to look at what happened in the

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Speaker 2: past and be able to move forward in a way.

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Speaker 1: Jason, thank you for that. Jason Wall's News talksb's political editor.

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