WEBVTT - Full Show Podcast: 16 March 2025 0:00:06.815 --> 0:00:10.415 You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf 0:00:10.415 --> 0:00:14.055 Camp from News Talks at B. Whether you're painting the ceiling, 0:00:14.055 --> 0:00:16.735 fixing the fence, or wondering how to fix that hole 0:00:16.775 --> 0:00:19.055 in the wall, give Peter wolf Camp a call on. 0:00:20.535 --> 0:00:20.735 Eight. 0:00:20.975 --> 0:00:22.975 The Resident Builder on us talks. 0:00:22.775 --> 0:00:23.015 At B. 0:00:26.735 --> 0:00:32.535 A house sizzle, even when it's dark, even when the 0:00:32.615 --> 0:00:37.935 grass is overgrown in the yard, even when a dog 0:00:38.175 --> 0:00:41.335 is too old to barn, and. 0:00:41.335 --> 0:00:45.055 When you're sitting at the table trying not to stop. 0:00:45.735 --> 0:00:52.735 House scissor home, even when we are ben, even when 0:00:52.855 --> 0:01:11.335 you're therellone. 0:01:04.175 --> 0:01:06.255 Well, a very very good morning and welcome a lot 0:01:06.535 --> 0:01:09.495 to the Resident Builder on Sunday. That's with me, Pete 0:01:09.535 --> 0:01:12.655 wolf Camp, the Resident Builder, and this is an opportunity 0:01:12.695 --> 0:01:15.935 to talk about all things building and construction, whether it's 0:01:15.975 --> 0:01:20.175 the rules, the regulations, the actual getting down amongst it 0:01:20.295 --> 0:01:25.335 and doing the work. Anything that you have any concerns 0:01:25.375 --> 0:01:28.935 about or any questions about building and construction, we can 0:01:28.975 --> 0:01:31.255 talk about it. Feels like it's been a bit of 0:01:31.255 --> 0:01:34.495 a week anyway for me of talking about it. I 0:01:34.655 --> 0:01:38.655 was at the New Zealand Institute of Building Surveys training 0:01:38.735 --> 0:01:41.695 day yesterday, so kind of as part of their continued 0:01:41.735 --> 0:01:45.695 professional development. Members are invited to come along to a 0:01:45.815 --> 0:01:49.175 day's workshop with a number of different speakers, and actually 0:01:49.215 --> 0:01:51.215 it was my job to sort of mce the event 0:01:51.295 --> 0:01:55.295 and host a couple of discussions. In fact, a discussion 0:01:55.375 --> 0:01:58.535 with someone who's been a fairly regular contributor over the 0:01:58.775 --> 0:02:01.655 ten years of the show, Matthew Cutler Welsh and the 0:02:01.695 --> 0:02:05.455 Green Building Council, Joe lythe head of the Passive House 0:02:06.415 --> 0:02:10.735 Board chair for the Passive House Institute. And a guy 0:02:10.815 --> 0:02:12.655 that I've seen around but haven't had a chance to 0:02:12.695 --> 0:02:16.335 talk to before, Tommy Honey, who's actually the Chief executive 0:02:16.415 --> 0:02:20.655 of the New Zealand Construction Industry Council. And that was 0:02:20.735 --> 0:02:23.095 just the morning. I've been talking about building all day 0:02:23.175 --> 0:02:25.495 yesterday as well, but looking forward to talking with you 0:02:25.775 --> 0:02:30.055 about building and construction and about your projects whether it's well. 0:02:30.615 --> 0:02:33.775 Sometimes it goes well and other times it doesn't. So 0:02:33.815 --> 0:02:36.055 if it's going well, that's great, we can talk about that, 0:02:36.095 --> 0:02:40.095 we can talk about improving and refining your project, and 0:02:40.135 --> 0:02:42.935 if it's not going particularly well or we can certainly 0:02:42.975 --> 0:02:45.735 talk about that Today on the show as well, We're 0:02:45.735 --> 0:02:46.895 going to have a bit of a catch up with 0:02:46.935 --> 0:02:50.695 Mike Colts later on the show, and then of course 0:02:50.775 --> 0:02:53.895 at eight thirty, as always we're into the garden with 0:02:54.175 --> 0:02:57.495 red Kline pass So if there's any gardening and antipological questions, 0:02:58.215 --> 0:03:00.655 Rudd will be joining us from eight thirty. But apart 0:03:00.695 --> 0:03:04.575 from that, the floor is yours. Basically, this is your 0:03:04.615 --> 0:03:09.255 opportunity to talk about I mean, look, the platform is 0:03:09.295 --> 0:03:12.655 pretty wide, right, we're talking building and housing and construction, 0:03:13.655 --> 0:03:17.735 so it's everything from foundations, through structures, through to roofs, 0:03:17.775 --> 0:03:23.655 through to exteriors, through the boundaries, through to regulations, requirements, 0:03:24.055 --> 0:03:27.095 the restraints that are there. In fact, it was kind 0:03:27.135 --> 0:03:29.575 of well, it was out. There was a bit of 0:03:29.575 --> 0:03:33.375 a question yesterday around what the government is going to 0:03:33.415 --> 0:03:37.055 do when they decide on what types of buildings might 0:03:37.135 --> 0:03:41.375 be able to be built without necessarily requiring a building consent. 0:03:42.455 --> 0:03:45.895 So for a long long time, under Schedule one of 0:03:45.935 --> 0:03:49.375 the Act, you could build ten square meters with certain 0:03:49.415 --> 0:03:52.815 other requirements without necessarily needing a building consent. That got 0:03:52.855 --> 0:03:56.095 pushed out thirty square meters. Now there is talk about 0:03:56.215 --> 0:04:01.095 doing granny flats, and that's it's pretty that it feels 0:04:01.135 --> 0:04:04.735 like that's a it's not a pejorative term, but it's 0:04:04.935 --> 0:04:06.975 kind of seen as a bit old fashion. But anyway, 0:04:07.535 --> 0:04:11.655 the terminology is granny flats. My understanding for the reason 0:04:12.055 --> 0:04:15.175 for that name is that the intention was that if 0:04:15.215 --> 0:04:18.215 you owned a piece of land, you had your family 0:04:18.255 --> 0:04:21.655 home on it, and you wanted to provide some accommodation, 0:04:21.935 --> 0:04:29.295 some housing for an extended family, maybe granny then that's 0:04:29.335 --> 0:04:31.455 why you could build a granny flat at the back 0:04:31.495 --> 0:04:35.015 of the property. It was always sort of related to 0:04:35.415 --> 0:04:37.935 the people that occupied the main house, hence the term 0:04:37.935 --> 0:04:40.135 granny flat. So then I don't know, they're not going 0:04:40.175 --> 0:04:41.735 to come up with a new name for it, but 0:04:42.055 --> 0:04:45.335 granni flats. And then the proposal that's out there at 0:04:45.335 --> 0:04:47.375 the moment is maybe the granny flat could be sixty 0:04:47.375 --> 0:04:51.415 square meters. Sixty square meter is not an insignificant building 0:04:51.575 --> 0:04:55.495 to build, possibly without having to get the building consent. 0:04:55.575 --> 0:04:59.495 And then in the discussion yesterday, actually Jeff Barrenson, who 0:04:59.655 --> 0:05:05.735 is head of Building Inspections for UXSN Council, which must 0:05:05.815 --> 0:05:08.855 be one hell of a job to be fair, Jeff 0:05:09.055 --> 0:05:12.655 was addressing the group as well at the Building Surveys 0:05:12.695 --> 0:05:18.015 conference and talking about the possibility that maybe those granny 0:05:18.055 --> 0:05:21.375 flats will extend to ninety one hundred maybe even one 0:05:21.415 --> 0:05:25.015 hundred and twenty square meters without necessarily requiring a consent. 0:05:25.135 --> 0:05:30.695 That changes the landscape quite considerably. So it's an interesting space. 0:05:30.935 --> 0:05:34.975 There's a lot of discussion around. We talked about remote 0:05:35.015 --> 0:05:38.535 building inspections. I think the Minister Chris Penk who has 0:05:38.575 --> 0:05:42.375 also been on the show before, came out quite a 0:05:42.375 --> 0:05:46.375 while ago, now, not long after they took office, to go, hey, look, 0:05:46.495 --> 0:05:49.935 we want this to be the default position. There's a 0:05:49.975 --> 0:05:53.735 significant amount of pushback in the industry to the idea 0:05:53.895 --> 0:05:56.935 of remote inspections. And again, one of the speakers yesterday 0:05:57.015 --> 0:06:02.295 the conference is involved with apartments in Australia. They beamed 0:06:02.335 --> 0:06:06.655 into the conference saying, hey, look, you know, the sperience 0:06:06.655 --> 0:06:09.175 hasn't been great here with the certifiers for some of 0:06:09.215 --> 0:06:13.215 the apartment complexes. The quality that work's not great, and 0:06:14.735 --> 0:06:18.095 you know, be cautious about what you wish for. It's 0:06:18.135 --> 0:06:20.975 been It was a good conference actually, And then I 0:06:21.015 --> 0:06:23.335 was in christ Julier in the week. I'll talk about 0:06:23.375 --> 0:06:25.255 that a little bit later on. And I've got a 0:06:25.255 --> 0:06:28.335 bit of news about some project that I did a 0:06:28.335 --> 0:06:32.455 little while ago that you can watch. I know Pete's 0:06:32.455 --> 0:06:35.175 TV's going I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. There's lots 0:06:35.215 --> 0:06:37.495 to talk about this morning. Get on the line, get 0:06:37.535 --> 0:06:40.215 an early. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the 0:06:40.255 --> 0:06:43.655 number nine two ninety two for the texts and Pete 0:06:43.775 --> 0:06:47.455 at newstalksb dot co dot nz is the email. A 0:06:47.575 --> 0:06:49.815 very good morning, lovely to have you with us this morning, 0:06:50.175 --> 0:06:52.815 and just quietly a little bit excited about being able 0:06:52.855 --> 0:06:56.095 to watch some Formula one this afternoon as well. Right, Albert, 0:06:56.615 --> 0:06:57.415 good morning to you. 0:06:58.535 --> 0:07:01.175 Yes, good morning sir. I was just starting to listen 0:07:01.175 --> 0:07:03.495 to your show and I just came over this in 0:07:03.655 --> 0:07:07.975 very general question. Sure, there was an article in a 0:07:08.015 --> 0:07:13.815 newspaper not so long about engineer Timber. Yes, and it 0:07:14.575 --> 0:07:18.455 was quite recommended as these shooture for New Zealand to go. 0:07:18.615 --> 0:07:20.535 And yeah, I was vuldering about this. 0:07:21.375 --> 0:07:25.695 Well perfect timing actually, Albert, because I mentioned I was 0:07:25.735 --> 0:07:31.295 in christ Church on Wednesday evening. I was a speaker 0:07:31.495 --> 0:07:35.055 at the Site Safe graduation. So for people who have qualified, 0:07:35.135 --> 0:07:37.575 they have gone through their site safe course in christ 0:07:37.655 --> 0:07:40.095 Church and one of the things that I wanted to 0:07:40.135 --> 0:07:42.295 do while I was in christ Church is go to 0:07:42.695 --> 0:07:44.495 I think it's two to two to one High Street, 0:07:45.455 --> 0:07:49.455 which is I think Lee's Construction are building a building there, 0:07:49.455 --> 0:07:53.815 a commercial building maybe to four stories high, and they 0:07:53.815 --> 0:07:57.535 are using engineered timber. Now, engineered timber is kind of 0:07:57.535 --> 0:08:01.535 a broad phrase for you know, I think in our head, 0:08:01.535 --> 0:08:04.215 if we talk about a timber building, we imagine four 0:08:04.295 --> 0:08:08.895 or two studs framed up mid floor, et cetera. This 0:08:09.175 --> 0:08:14.255 is engineered timber where the components, the columns, the beams, 0:08:14.335 --> 0:08:18.335 and the floor plates are coming to site. They've been 0:08:18.695 --> 0:08:21.135 fabricated in a factory, the ones that I saw sitting 0:08:21.135 --> 0:08:23.855 on the back of the truck. And actually good of 0:08:23.895 --> 0:08:27.735 you to call, because I'll put up some photographs later 0:08:27.775 --> 0:08:30.735 on this morning on my Facebook page. So you know, 0:08:30.815 --> 0:08:36.255 the columns would be shivers three hundred and fifty by 0:08:36.335 --> 0:08:40.895 three hundred and fifty milimeters square, right. Then the beams 0:08:40.935 --> 0:08:43.935 would be maybe four hundred by three hundred and then 0:08:43.975 --> 0:08:48.335 the floor, the actual complete floor, so spanning maybe a 0:08:48.375 --> 0:08:51.135 distance of four or five or six meters, would be 0:08:51.175 --> 0:08:53.775 two hundred and fifty milimeters thick. Now, they are all 0:08:53.975 --> 0:08:57.575 individual components, they've got all you know, they're bolted together 0:08:57.695 --> 0:09:03.095 with specifically designed brackets. It's pine, it's good old fashioned 0:09:03.095 --> 0:09:08.415 pinus radiator. It's it's obviously been processed and engineered to 0:09:08.495 --> 0:09:12.695 a very very high level. It's very high spec. But 0:09:13.495 --> 0:09:16.135 obviously in christ Church, where they've still got concerns around 0:09:16.135 --> 0:09:21.455 seismic activity, timber is great there. It's really fast. And 0:09:21.775 --> 0:09:24.215 in fact, there was a couple of guys from Hawkins 0:09:24.255 --> 0:09:26.815 and from Fletcher Living who were at the sight Safe 0:09:26.975 --> 0:09:30.335 conference and they were talking about they were struck by 0:09:30.335 --> 0:09:32.415 how quickly that building was going up. 0:09:33.695 --> 0:09:36.735 Yeah. I have a little bit of a forestry background, 0:09:36.775 --> 0:09:42.055 and I was thinking the trees could be grown with 0:09:42.175 --> 0:09:44.455 a shorter rotation maybe. 0:09:45.215 --> 0:09:47.855 I mean, I think already one of New Zealand's great 0:09:47.855 --> 0:09:51.015 advantages when it comes to forestry is that we can 0:09:51.055 --> 0:09:55.415 go typically twenty years from planting to harvesting for Pinus radiata, 0:09:55.895 --> 0:09:59.215 which is about eight to ten years quicker than almost 0:09:59.255 --> 0:10:00.295 anyone else in the world. 0:10:01.015 --> 0:10:04.695 Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, Oh well, yeah, thank you very much. 0:10:04.895 --> 0:10:08.575 Yeah. It In fact, there was an article about it 0:10:08.695 --> 0:10:11.535 in the paper. So if you just search for, you know, 0:10:11.775 --> 0:10:14.255 engineer building christ Church or something like that. I went 0:10:14.295 --> 0:10:18.575 to another way about two years ago that Naylor Love, 0:10:18.695 --> 0:10:23.255 another large construction firm, we're doing for the Auckland University 0:10:23.255 --> 0:10:27.375 of Technology, so aut at the Akaranga campus. And again 0:10:27.495 --> 0:10:30.735 I think that's five stories. It's all colt. So it's 0:10:30.815 --> 0:10:37.175 all laminated timber, glass, laminated timber. Look, it's great, it's 0:10:37.295 --> 0:10:39.535 it's really really good. And the fact that it's using 0:10:39.535 --> 0:10:42.495 a natural resource, the fact that it does in a 0:10:42.495 --> 0:10:46.295 fantastic job in terms of carbon and sequestering carbon and 0:10:46.335 --> 0:10:49.215 all of those sorts of things. Yeah, and we grow 0:10:49.295 --> 0:10:50.775 lots of it. Why aren't we using it? 0:10:51.775 --> 0:10:51.975 Yeah? 0:10:52.055 --> 0:10:57.935 No, thanks very much. Pleasure for nice of you to call. 0:10:56.495 --> 0:10:58.895 All the best. Take care. One hundred and eighty ten 0:10:59.015 --> 0:11:04.095 eighty is the number to call, exactly. So I knew 0:11:04.095 --> 0:11:06.415 that I was going down for the site Safe GRADU, 0:11:06.695 --> 0:11:09.055 which was actually a really nice event to be part of, 0:11:09.095 --> 0:11:12.375 and I appreciated that the opportunity to talk to people 0:11:12.615 --> 0:11:15.175 a little bit about safety and my own experiences of 0:11:15.255 --> 0:11:17.455 what I did. To be absolutely honest, I did say 0:11:17.455 --> 0:11:21.655 at the beginning of the oh, to the person who says, 0:11:21.735 --> 0:11:23.175 is this an ad No, it's not. 0:11:25.015 --> 0:11:25.215 Right. 0:11:25.295 --> 0:11:28.935 This is you know, this type of building construction methodology 0:11:29.095 --> 0:11:33.655 that's sort of in development at the moment is genuinely exciting, right, 0:11:33.695 --> 0:11:37.295 This is really really good for the country. I think 0:11:37.335 --> 0:11:40.775 it's a fantastic use of a resource that is readily 0:11:40.775 --> 0:11:47.135 available here in terms of its environmental impact and its sustainability. 0:11:48.535 --> 0:11:52.335 I think it's a massive leap forward in terms of 0:11:52.375 --> 0:11:57.015 speed of construction. It's fantastic by all accounts. Working in 0:11:57.055 --> 0:12:00.975 those buildings in the future is actually quite pleasant as well, 0:12:01.055 --> 0:12:04.175 which is really interesting. So no, it's not mad, it's 0:12:04.295 --> 0:12:06.655 just this is innovation, right, This is what a a 0:12:06.855 --> 0:12:10.335 decent sustainable future looks like when you see these timber 0:12:10.375 --> 0:12:14.615 buildings going up. So yeah, Because I was heading to 0:12:14.695 --> 0:12:18.215 christ Church anyway, and i'd seen the article, I decided 0:12:18.255 --> 0:12:20.255 I wanted to go and have a look through. And 0:12:20.295 --> 0:12:24.575 it's gosh, it would be within sixty or seventy meters 0:12:24.615 --> 0:12:28.855 maybe one hundred meters of the Takaha Stadium, which i'd 0:12:28.895 --> 0:12:32.175 only ever seen sort of in its ground stages. That's 0:12:32.255 --> 0:12:35.535 really starting to take form. And then I had a 0:12:35.575 --> 0:12:38.735 little bit of time on Wednesday morning and wandered along 0:12:38.815 --> 0:12:43.815 to the Cardboard Cathedral, the Anglican Transitional Cathedral, which again 0:12:43.975 --> 0:12:46.775 i'd seen and read a little bit about, but never 0:12:46.855 --> 0:12:48.455 had the opportunity to go and have a look at. 0:12:48.455 --> 0:12:52.455 It and the guys from Metro Glass did the digital 0:12:52.455 --> 0:12:56.575 print on the effectively stained glass. It's not stained glass, 0:12:56.575 --> 0:13:00.095 it's digital print on the front facade of it. So actually, 0:13:00.175 --> 0:13:03.615 christ Church, I'll make a couple of other comments about 0:13:03.655 --> 0:13:07.975 christ Church a little bit later on. I know you've 0:13:07.975 --> 0:13:09.255 had to put up with a hell of a lot 0:13:09.295 --> 0:13:12.735 in terms of the rebuild and the infrastructure, and there 0:13:12.895 --> 0:13:15.535 still seems to be you know, lots to do and 0:13:15.615 --> 0:13:17.775 lots of work going on, and lots of road cones 0:13:17.775 --> 0:13:19.375 and lots of people ripping up the roads in that. 0:13:19.935 --> 0:13:24.215 But my sense was it's going to be a great 0:13:24.295 --> 0:13:26.975 Oh it's a great city now. But you know, as 0:13:27.575 --> 0:13:29.975 the rebuild part comes to a close and some of 0:13:29.975 --> 0:13:32.295 those really big projects get wrapped up and some of 0:13:32.335 --> 0:13:37.015 the redevelopment of the residential inside the city wraps up, 0:13:37.175 --> 0:13:39.535 it's it's going to be a great city. Oh eight 0:13:39.655 --> 0:13:41.895 hundred eighty ten eighty. The number to call might take 0:13:41.895 --> 0:13:43.895 a short break. We'll talk to Jim in just a moment. 0:13:43.935 --> 0:13:46.095 If you've got a comment, call us now, oh eight 0:13:46.215 --> 0:13:47.335 hundred eighty ten eighty. 0:13:48.135 --> 0:13:51.735 Squeaky door or squeaky floor, Get the right advice from 0:13:51.815 --> 0:13:55.735 Peter Wolfcare the resident builder on News talksb. 0:13:55.895 --> 0:13:57.535 You and News talksp will come to a couple of 0:13:57.575 --> 0:13:59.535 texts in a moment, but right now, let's have a 0:13:59.615 --> 0:14:00.935 bit of a chat with Jim good A. 0:14:01.055 --> 0:14:05.375 Jim get oo, Peter, thank you for answering my call. 0:14:05.535 --> 0:14:05.895 Leisure. 0:14:06.055 --> 0:14:10.775 Look, my query is our house is eight years old 0:14:11.175 --> 0:14:15.415 and it's got a double garage built onto it, and 0:14:15.575 --> 0:14:18.335 there's no bats in the garage roof. Life they don't 0:14:18.455 --> 0:14:21.495 seem to do yep. Now what I want to know 0:14:22.095 --> 0:14:24.295 is the worth my while putting bats in the roof 0:14:24.815 --> 0:14:32.335 this garage? Is it's quite cold the big door. The 0:14:32.375 --> 0:14:35.335 big door faces east and the small door you can 0:14:35.415 --> 0:14:38.455 drive through, faces west, and of course the lights in 0:14:38.535 --> 0:14:41.775 there too, and in the morning it's bloom and cold 0:14:41.815 --> 0:14:42.215 in there. 0:14:42.655 --> 0:14:44.175 Yeah, and I'm just. 0:14:44.095 --> 0:14:46.775 Wondering what I could do. Was it worthwhile putting bats 0:14:46.815 --> 0:14:47.655 in the roof or not? 0:14:48.335 --> 0:14:48.655 Oh? 0:14:48.695 --> 0:14:53.615 Look, you know, insulated spaces are always better than uninsulated spaces. 0:14:53.975 --> 0:14:58.935 And just for clarity, we'll go back a step so 0:14:59.735 --> 0:15:02.455 because people will be listening, going, well, hang on, if 0:15:02.495 --> 0:15:04.015 it's an eight year old house and it's got an 0:15:04.055 --> 0:15:08.855 attached garage, how come the garage isn' related, and the 0:15:08.895 --> 0:15:13.135 builder developer would have looked at that and gone, well, actually, 0:15:13.175 --> 0:15:16.215 I don't need to in terms of the building code 0:15:16.535 --> 0:15:20.215 because it's not a habitable space. So what should happen 0:15:20.775 --> 0:15:24.135 is that the petition between the habitable space, may be 0:15:24.215 --> 0:15:28.575 a bedroom or whatever that's on the adjoining wall, that 0:15:28.615 --> 0:15:31.935 wall should be insulated, and then that insulation should go 0:15:32.055 --> 0:15:35.655 up that wall and across the ceiling of your habitable space. 0:15:36.095 --> 0:15:39.215 And so you end up with this uninsulated area immediately 0:15:39.255 --> 0:15:44.895 adjacent your insulated habitable space, and it saves the builder, 0:15:45.015 --> 0:15:47.855 the developer, you know, whatever it's going to cost to 0:15:47.895 --> 0:15:52.375 insulate that space. I've always thought that that's really short sighted, right, 0:15:53.215 --> 0:15:57.375 particularly for an attached garage. So you know, essentially, every 0:15:57.375 --> 0:16:01.615 time you open the door between the garage and the house, 0:16:02.015 --> 0:16:06.055 you've got that temperature differential. Often you'll tend to leave 0:16:06.135 --> 0:16:08.695 that door open more because you're moving in and out 0:16:08.735 --> 0:16:11.375 of the laundry, those sorts of things, So it just 0:16:11.495 --> 0:16:13.815 cools down the whole house. You lose the benefit. I 0:16:13.815 --> 0:16:15.975 think you lose the benefit of insulation in the house, 0:16:16.655 --> 0:16:18.535 which is a long winded way of me saying yes, 0:16:18.775 --> 0:16:23.255 if it's an accessible roof space, which it probably is. 0:16:24.135 --> 0:16:28.335 Throwing some insulation in their properly, neatly will make a 0:16:28.335 --> 0:16:30.895 big difference, and I wouldn't hesitate to say that you 0:16:30.895 --> 0:16:33.135 should do it. And in fact, I'm always a little 0:16:33.135 --> 0:16:36.695 bit disappointed when builders or developers don't insulate all of 0:16:36.735 --> 0:16:39.735 the exterior walls. And I think ideally we should be 0:16:39.775 --> 0:16:43.815 moving towards insulated garage doors, which are available, to reduce 0:16:43.935 --> 0:16:48.175 drafts and to make those spaces more like a habitable space. 0:16:49.055 --> 0:16:50.415 Yeah, that was my next question. 0:16:50.495 --> 0:16:50.775 Betty. 0:16:50.855 --> 0:16:52.935 Hit the nail on the head what you've said so far. 0:16:53.575 --> 0:16:58.095 But if the stone's not getting into the gearage much, 0:16:58.175 --> 0:17:00.855 only about two hours in the morning or in the 0:17:00.855 --> 0:17:04.535 middle of the winter, there's no heat in the garage anyway. 0:17:05.735 --> 0:17:10.695 Yeah, but you'll still Yeah, I hear what you're saying. 0:17:10.815 --> 0:17:14.775 I just you know, the other thing that maybe with 0:17:14.815 --> 0:17:17.655 an exterior wall we've got thicker you know, so essentially 0:17:17.695 --> 0:17:20.615 that that petition between your habitable space and the garage 0:17:21.015 --> 0:17:24.015 timber framing, ten mil plaster board on both sides and 0:17:24.055 --> 0:17:27.335 some insulation in there, whereas maybe with an exterior wall 0:17:27.495 --> 0:17:29.775 you've got the thickness of the cladding, maybe you've got 0:17:29.775 --> 0:17:32.775 some brick something like that. So suddenly you know that 0:17:32.775 --> 0:17:36.335 that the r value in that wall is probably going 0:17:36.335 --> 0:17:38.415 to be a little bit diminished because you're not getting 0:17:38.415 --> 0:17:41.415 the benefit of the cladding. So again the insulation on 0:17:41.455 --> 0:17:45.015 those walls might not be working as well. And also, 0:17:46.015 --> 0:17:48.095 you know, if it was a garage that you literally 0:17:48.215 --> 0:17:50.735 just park the car and maybe that's okay, but in 0:17:50.775 --> 0:17:53.175 the end it's sort of a habitable space because you're 0:17:53.175 --> 0:17:57.415 working in there when you're doing the launch. Yes, ye, look, 0:17:57.655 --> 0:18:01.655 I think if it's accessible and you know, it's a 0:18:01.735 --> 0:18:05.655 relatively straightforward job, there would be a benefit. And I 0:18:05.695 --> 0:18:07.775 think the benefit without weigh the cost of a couple 0:18:07.815 --> 0:18:12.015 of bags of insulation. Oh well, thank you very but 0:18:12.135 --> 0:18:15.215 I'm really fair. I'm pretty much a big fan of insulation. 0:18:15.375 --> 0:18:15.975 So there you go. 0:18:17.095 --> 0:18:19.295 Yes, well see I've been in the garage a lot 0:18:19.295 --> 0:18:22.175 of the time. But yes, that's right. 0:18:22.575 --> 0:18:22.935 Just one. 0:18:25.255 --> 0:18:28.775 More question, can I not too much a question? But 0:18:29.975 --> 0:18:33.055 these days are always run the cold water through your roof, 0:18:33.775 --> 0:18:35.575 all the pipes through the roof and see it under 0:18:35.615 --> 0:18:38.495 the ground. Yes, I did years ago when piles and 0:18:38.975 --> 0:18:40.895 when you want to drink a water or something, a 0:18:41.015 --> 0:18:44.095 run run run this water. It's such a waste feed up. 0:18:44.175 --> 0:18:49.015 Often thought, is there not a system that you could 0:18:49.015 --> 0:18:51.815 do so? 0:18:53.375 --> 0:18:55.495 But in terms of like typically it's not an issue 0:18:55.495 --> 0:18:57.975 for cold water, because cold water quite happily sits in 0:18:58.015 --> 0:19:00.735 all of the pipes, and you know as soon as 0:19:00.735 --> 0:19:03.375 you need it, it's there. Sometimes, you know, if people 0:19:03.495 --> 0:19:07.295 don't think too much about where they're placing hot water cylinders, 0:19:08.095 --> 0:19:11.455 if there's a significant delay in getting hot water to 0:19:12.495 --> 0:19:14.775 the tap, for example, in the kitchen, we tend to 0:19:14.855 --> 0:19:17.855 waste a lot of water because you know, we all 0:19:17.855 --> 0:19:20.095 do it right. You turn the hot tap on, and 0:19:20.135 --> 0:19:22.535 you wait for all of the cold to purge, and 0:19:22.575 --> 0:19:25.775 then when finally the hot water comes out of the 0:19:25.895 --> 0:19:28.815 kitchen sink or kitchen spout, you put the plug in 0:19:28.855 --> 0:19:31.015 the sink and start filling the sink up with water. 0:19:31.055 --> 0:19:33.255 But in the meantime, you've lost I don't know, a 0:19:33.335 --> 0:19:36.415 liter of water or so. And you're doing that a 0:19:36.495 --> 0:19:38.455 couple of times a day. You know, it is a 0:19:38.455 --> 0:19:39.775 little bit of a waste of water. 0:19:40.735 --> 0:19:44.495 It is I already met drinking water. You just raced 0:19:44.535 --> 0:19:46.695 all that water until the water comes cold. 0:19:47.495 --> 0:19:50.895 But I see, yes, because you're getting warm water because 0:19:50.935 --> 0:19:55.695 your pipes are up in the roof space. If it 0:19:55.735 --> 0:19:58.455 was interesting that was that came up in a discussion yesterday, 0:19:58.495 --> 0:20:03.455 actually around running pipes throughout uninsulated roof spaces or cold 0:20:03.535 --> 0:20:06.735 roof spaces. I guess the other thing you could do again, 0:20:06.775 --> 0:20:08.975 if it's accessible and it's safe to get around up 0:20:08.975 --> 0:20:11.735 there in the same way, that you can buy like 0:20:11.775 --> 0:20:17.135 a foam, like a pool sausage type thing. That's what 0:20:17.175 --> 0:20:20.295 we use for insulating pipes. There's no reason that you 0:20:20.295 --> 0:20:22.615 couldn't put that around the cold pipes as well, because 0:20:22.655 --> 0:20:25.655 if that roof baces forty degrees during the summer, which 0:20:25.655 --> 0:20:29.055 it easily will be, and that's warming up your cold 0:20:29.255 --> 0:20:32.455 pipes as well, just insulate them with some of those 0:20:32.495 --> 0:20:37.095 pool littles. Yes, yep, there you go, Peter, there's a 0:20:37.135 --> 0:20:37.735 couple of jobs. 0:20:38.055 --> 0:20:39.655 Judge, we're both. 0:20:40.855 --> 0:20:42.215 Nice to talk, take care of all. 0:20:42.255 --> 0:20:42.655 The best to you. 0:20:42.775 --> 0:20:44.815 I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty the number to 0:20:44.815 --> 0:20:48.895 call quick text hey Pete some general advice on painting 0:20:48.935 --> 0:20:53.735 anything asbestos around the house. Look, it goes without saying. 0:20:53.815 --> 0:20:57.095 I hope that you know you're cautious around asbestos. So 0:20:57.135 --> 0:20:59.975 in terms of preparation, you don't want to be sanding 0:21:00.015 --> 0:21:03.975 it You probably don't even want to be pressure washing 0:21:04.015 --> 0:21:07.815 it or water blasting it. A chemical treatment, so proprietary 0:21:07.855 --> 0:21:10.815 house wash just to apply it. Let the chemicals do 0:21:10.895 --> 0:21:12.615 the work in terms of getting rid of any moss 0:21:12.615 --> 0:21:18.575 and mold and mildew, and then a very gentle wash down. 0:21:19.335 --> 0:21:23.455 And I wouldn't even try and sand or prep anything. Really, 0:21:23.855 --> 0:21:26.015 I'd just be applying a coat of paint over the 0:21:26.015 --> 0:21:29.495 top of the existing and that's absolutely fine. Oh, eight 0:21:29.655 --> 0:21:32.135 hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call. Another 0:21:32.175 --> 0:21:35.775 quick text before the break. Remove floor in the living 0:21:35.855 --> 0:21:38.095 room which has been covered in a clear varnish which 0:21:38.135 --> 0:21:41.055 is now peeling and bubbling up in places? Can you 0:21:41.255 --> 0:21:44.055 please advise how to remove it and is it best 0:21:44.175 --> 0:21:46.375 and what is best to replace it? From ELF in 0:21:46.535 --> 0:21:50.655 New Plymouth, ELF, I think that if the varnish is 0:21:50.775 --> 0:21:53.735 bubbling and so on, it's an issue with the top 0:21:53.775 --> 0:21:58.695 coat being applied over an existing old coat, right, so 0:21:58.775 --> 0:22:03.975 it's effectively it's delaminating between there. Most of the time 0:22:04.615 --> 0:22:08.055 with timber floors it's a re sand and then you 0:22:08.095 --> 0:22:10.495 know back to beer timber and then bringing it up 0:22:11.215 --> 0:22:15.375 with the polyurethanes, whether they're water borne or solvent born polyurethanes. 0:22:16.895 --> 0:22:19.575 I have done once in a situation where I just 0:22:19.615 --> 0:22:21.375 need a new coating, but I didn't want to go 0:22:21.415 --> 0:22:24.455 to the expense on behalf of the client of sanding 0:22:24.455 --> 0:22:27.855 the floors. I had the guys come in and do 0:22:28.015 --> 0:22:31.255 effectively like an acid wash over the surface, just to 0:22:31.335 --> 0:22:34.135 really cleanse it, and then apply a couple of coats 0:22:34.135 --> 0:22:37.935 of polyurethane that lasted quite well. But look, it'll just 0:22:38.095 --> 0:22:40.615 if it's peeling like that. It's all about the preparation 0:22:42.015 --> 0:22:44.615 and so you'll need to remove that surface. Nine times 0:22:44.615 --> 0:22:47.055 out of ten. It's a get the floor sanders and 0:22:47.215 --> 0:22:49.975 cut it right back to beer timber start again. Oh 0:22:49.975 --> 0:22:52.215 eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call, 0:22:52.495 --> 0:22:55.135 coming up twenty eight minutes away from seven. Call us 0:22:55.175 --> 0:22:57.415 now we've got a spare line. Oh eight hundred eighty 0:22:57.455 --> 0:23:00.095 ten eighty. Text the grade as well. Nine two nine 0:23:00.175 --> 0:23:02.215