WEBVTT - "Better Than A World Cup" 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 Live for the Export Beer Garden Studio and brought to 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:04.920 you by Export Ultra the Beer for Here. This is 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.840 the Agenda Podcast for Monday, the twenty fourth of June. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.879 The Agenda Podcast, the home of Sporting Nonsense and clap Trap, 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:15.560 brought to you by Export Vulture. 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.200 Lane. We'll get to the Rugby, do we have to? 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:21.120 We do have to, and we will. 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:23.000 We will get to the rug like as long as 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:24.840 we can just put it behind us, we can. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:26.640 But we have to deal with it. We have to grieve, 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:28.640 we have to have a tongue in for the chiefs, 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:30.400 and we will in a second. But first I just 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.479 want to address something that I've just become aware of. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.639 There was cakes and candles for Jeremy Wells's birthday out 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.000 in the office this morning. Yep, it is his birthday. 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.360 But except for the fact that it isn't, he's moved 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:44.080 his birthday. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:50.560 He's identified as his birthday being late July, late June 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:52.839 instead of January because he didn't like January. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.240 Because he was actually born in January. 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:58.080 Yeah, January, I think January nineteen or twenty yeah, nineteen, 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.320 very close to Dani Vittori's birthday twentieth as well. 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.759 And so he's then moved it to June twentieth. Yeah, 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.800 he's moved it six months. Yeah, he's moved. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.679 It to the day after the winter solstice for the 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.440 longest day. So you know it's right, Sat, I don't 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.440 mind it. You know you can have it. You can 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.600 do what you want these days, because you can be 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:21.760 born a man and identify as a packet of SNACKACHINGI 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:23.520 and people can't criticize that. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.960 So he identifies as being born June. 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.119 Yeah, six months after he was actually born. He's identified 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:33.920 has been as his birthday, yeah, being six months later. 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:35.600 And you know, you can do whatever you want these days, 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.399 and you can't criticize it, Mini, because if you do, 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:39.440 you are a bigot. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:40.800 Well you've been able to do it for a long 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.959 time because there's someone else who's did it, and it 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:45.800 was one of the English kings years ago. That's why 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:50.480 King's birthday is in June May whenever it is. It's 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.400 because his actual birthday was in winter, and he's like, oh, 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.240 fuck that, you're not going to have it too cold 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.200 for public holiday. Let's move it to summer. But Jerry's 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:03.040 done the opposite. But his rationale was that, like January nineteenth. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.680 Who kres like, Yeah, you've just had Christmas, New Year's 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.240 you're away on holiday. Save it and have someone to 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:09.280 look forward to in the middle of winter. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.400 Well, he did say that the reason he changed it 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.480 was to avoid scenarios like the office cake situation. And 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.320 I said to a mass you stupid because you don't 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.639 come back to work until like the twenty fifth of January. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.240 So you've never had cake in the office, and now 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.440 you've changed it to a date where we can do 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.640 it in the office. You've really shot yourself on the foot. 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:28.320 Yeah, And he said that it sucked and whos occurred 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.800 because it was always in school holidays. As a person 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.480 who's birthday is always in school holidays, I loved it. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.120 Fuck been at school on your birthday? 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.520 Yeah, But as she there is. I've got two kids 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.040 and both in July coming up. It's the hell month 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.960 for me. They're both in school holidays, and the issue 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.799 for them is all their mates are away. So what 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.840 happens is we have a celebration on their birthday and 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.040 then two weeks later, when all the little shits go 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:53.560 back to school, we have to do it all over 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.320 again with the fucking party yeah, right, so it just 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.440 keeps on giving. That's why I don't like it. 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.440 Where do their mates got just leave town of the holidays. 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.520 They or just bagger off. I mean I'm on the 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:08.160 north Shore, so most they're in Fiji or Toma or 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.079 somewhere like we're in near place in the Maldives. 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.480 That's a beautiful part about growing up in way mate, 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.400 is no one ever left, and so my my birthday 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.399 and the July school holidays, everyone was still around. Yeah. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.200 I just thought it was innovative and I've only ever 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.200 heard of one other person changing their birthday. 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.280 I'm into it. I mean I was born on Friday 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.120 the thirteenth, so I could be up for changing it, 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:30.480 may explain if you thinks out. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:34.120 Yeah, yes, I've got an uncle who was born on 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.120 a Friday the thirteenth as well. But yeah, I don't know. 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.440 I'm not going to change my birthday. But I thought 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.080 he might have been one of those people who just 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.760 hates when people acknowledge his birthday. But no, he seemed 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:45.240 to enjoy it. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.880 Yeah he didn't. He doesn't mind it. I would have 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:49.840 chosen a bit of date, like you said, middle of winter. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:54.080 Maybe go for Year's Eve. Yeah, or somewhere everyone's partying. 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:58.400 No, I'd go like around just after daylight savings, so 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.480 when we're just starting to come in to yeah, you 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.240 know spring Spring Yeah. 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.360 Because I think you can change it when you get older, 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.160 because when you're younger, anyone who's born in December or 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.000 early January hate it because you get too you just 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.840 get one present at Christmas, yeah you know, and you 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:13.840 get overshadowed. But as you get older and you don't 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.000 really give a shit about your birthday in terms of 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.080 gifts or anything like that, I reckon put it around 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:20.800 a party area Patty zone would be good. 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.760 Only someone who had their birthday on Christmas Eve on 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.880 the twenty fourth. Yeah, and they loved it because every 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.200 year it's like everyone's at the pub passing up. She 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.400 was like, oh, no, you have my Birthda's true. But 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.800 actually they weren't. But but you can pretend, you can pretend. Look, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.080 we're dancing around the topic. The topic is the subject. 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:43.400 Super Rugby Grand Final twenty twenty four. You'll winner has 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.960 been crowned and it is the Blues. Twenty one years 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.080 on from their last legitimate title. They win again and 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:55.120 a resounding victory as well. Forty one ten. What happened all. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:59.920 Went completely wrong for the Chiefs manner right from the start, 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.400 when the rain was coming down an hour before the start, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.560 it was like, uh oh, because, as Steve Devine said 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.200 on the Friday, he's like, this is going to be 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.800 one up front. You know, the Blues are going to 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:15.000 smash them up front, dominate, and it's going to be 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.560 brutal and a wet weather affair. And you could see 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.479 immediately how slippery it was, players slipping over. It was 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:25.599 like kind of a weird greasy. It wasn't like heavy rain. 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:28.080 It was like they're just that kind of drizzle. You 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.640 could see it on when they were running their footsteps. Yeah, 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.040 so from the start that was like uh oh. And 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.719 then in the first ten minutes, you know, there was 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.000 penalties galore. Nick Barry was not having any of the 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.840 Chief's manna carry on. He was threatening cards most of 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.360 the time. Most of the game was under penalty advantage 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.200 to the Blues, And to be fair, I was expecting 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.520 more rezeldzil when they play under advantage, but they didn't. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.640 They just kept picking, going, picking, go, picking go, and 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.560 as old Vern Cotter said, you don't win Awards for 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.839 you know how pretty it is, So we're just going 0:05:59.920 --> 0:06:02.360 to grind this one out. And sure enough they did, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.039 and that the Chiefs had nothing Patrick Tupola to even 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.320 Charlton one News. Fuck the How the fuck did he 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.039 come out back from a four week injury two weeks 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.880 later and play a game like that that was next level? 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:19.400 My theory on him is that he actually wasn't any 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.400 further along in his recovery than he would have otherwise been. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:23.880 He was just like, fuck it on playing and I 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.120 don't care, you know, his own up. I'm going to 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.880 risk it. Shoot yeah, fill me up to the girls 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.280 with any pain killie. And I think that's what they did. 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.320 And I think he knew he was only going to play. 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.800 I think he played fifty seven minutes and I think 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:37.520 he knew that's all he was going to play. So 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:38.240 he's like, fuck it. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:42.320 I was sixty seven. He played fucking quite a decent haul. 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.640 Yeah, but I think he just used Maybe he's just like, 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:46.039 this is as much as I can do. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.200 That's all they needed though unhelpfully that yeah, and he 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.200 was excellent, that's all they needed. And now the Chiefs 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:54.560 lineout struggled really missed Takiaho yeah, and Bradley Slater, the 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.120 two first up hookers were gone, and you could just 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.880 see in that first lineout Tyrone Tom he threw a 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.200 ball that just floated and it wasn't straight and immediately 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.760 Blues were on attack in our own twenty two. It 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.560 was just like, Yeah, it was this bit of a 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.520 horror show right from the start, and it was tough 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.240 to watch as a Chiefs manor fan because it's back 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.520 to back Grand Final losses for the Chiefs. They I mean, 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:19.680 there are chants again next year. They don't lose a 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.640 lot of players next year. There's I think they're pretty 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.520 much that rosters pretty much stays the same. They may 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.520 have to look at maybe beefing up that front row, 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.840 yeah a little bit. They just seem to get out 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.800 muscled by Tonga. Fussy and muscled, and it's a it's. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.760 Almost like a role reversal because I don't identify the 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.040 Blues with having a strong, hard nosed forward pack. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:40.600 Oh man, they've been a strong year. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.960 They have. Yeah, they have been dominant and the Chiefs 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.800 have been winning their games. From Razeldazzel in the back. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:51.040 Line, Yeah, from the Nawel nada. I mean, Sewan Stevenson 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.120 had a He's had an up and down season and 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:57.680 compared to the year before. Injuries, Yeah, injuries all through there. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.480 But Doughbro's been good. I think it's seen to don't 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:02.680 as good. And I think you've got the likes of 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.920 I'm like a poor hippie and Quinty Pye, Like that's 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.880 a pretty solid inside back combination. 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.760 Then you throw some Rezldezzel on the edges. 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.000 Yeah, and Cortes Latima as well. He's played pretty pretty 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.680 buddy well with Mackenzie. But yeah, I copped a lot 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.600 of a lot of shit, mainly from my family who 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.120 went to the game and they all dressed up in 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.120 blues kit and then they picked me up afterwards, and 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.200 then they all near just absolutely giving it to me, 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.120 and I'm like, I don't need this from my loved ones. 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.200 My phone has been lit up of people like Joel Harrison, 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.960 like Delli, like all these guys just going sorry for 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.160 your loss, sorry for your loss, And I'm like, yeah, fuck, 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:40.400 you didn't make. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.960 A lot of noise going unto that. 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.640 I don't. I know, I like, and I didn't. I didn't. 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:48.839 I did not expect it. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.280 Yeah, I guess the shocking part is how many Blues 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:53.800 fans all of a sudden there were. So I was like, 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:55.760 where have you guys been for the last twenty years? 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:57.520 I may have said that on the commentary and was 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.560 the Blues fans copped a straight from me on the 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.880 contrary because I'm like, you don't deserve it. You're five thousand, 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.000 you tune up for the first game next season, yeah, 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.680 and you'll be champions. You don't deserve it. Like, actually, 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.960 if you actually believe in it, get in behind it. 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.640 That don't properly, they don't. I think a large part 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.439 of it is not a lot of people in Auckland 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.440 are from Auckland. Three of us in this room, Yeah, 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.400 I live in Auckland aren't from Auckland. There's a massive, 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.120 massive contingent from. 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.240 But there is about a million who are Yeah, that's right, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.320 you know what I mean. There is there's only so 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.640 many Kiwi kind of regional expats here. There is still 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.960 a buttload of true blue born and bred auckland Is 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.680 here who need to get off their fucking asses and 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.600 go and support their team because they're champions. 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.960 Yeah, you're you're so right. They don't deserve it. Did 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.920 you see? Rico Juoni afterwards said that it means more 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.000 to him than a World Cup? Is that because he's 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:51.160 just lost a World Cup? Yep? 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:53.400 And this is the first thing he's won. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.120 Yeah, yeah, if he has oh of course, yeah. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.240 He's one a few blittersloads and stuff like that. But 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.600 in terms of a title, yeah, it's the first one. 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:01.840 So he never won. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:03.559 So he doesn't know what it feels like to have 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.200 a World Cup title, does he No, So of course 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:07.480 he's going to say that this is bigger than a 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.040 World Cup. Is because I've never won a World Cup. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.080 This is bigger than a World Cup loss. Sure, but 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.000 I think winning the World Cup would probably meant a 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:14.880 little bit more to him. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.440 I think, yes, I think, yeah, let's hope. Let's hope he, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:20.920 you know, went, wins a World Cup and then can 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.000 turn around and say I said this the Super Rugby, 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:24.560 this was bet. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.000 I was wrong. This is hope. Let's hope he did. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.040 It's hope he eats his words. I hope he gets 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.640 the opportunity. Yeah, and I think if you asked him 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:34.640 he'd probably say the same thing. But yeah, disappointing forty 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.520 one ten, That is a whopping score. 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.960 Yeah, it just blew out In the end, he could 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.679 sell that the Chiefs knew they were behind and they 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.800 had to start playing a bit of razzle dazzle, but 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.720 not in those conditions shut down. You know, all Bell's 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.400 being kicked out on the fall, just being penalized at 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.840 the breakdown was im metally. I'm not going to sound 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.400 like a Wingingana fan, but there were some penalties that 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.320 were like, I'm pretty sure the Blues did exactly that 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.240 same thing that earlier ruck and got away with it. Yeah, 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.920 I'm on the like, not off your feet, not on 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.559 your own body weight or whatever it's called, come over 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.720 the ball. We got panged twice and the Blues did 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.199 it and it was okay. There was just a bit 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.080 of that that just didn't fall, and as I think 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.840 it was was. I mean, Steve Devine gave a great 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.200 insight he said when he was talking about you can 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.400 only have been quite lucky in terms of got the 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.680 rubb of the green the Chiefs the last few games, 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.640 the first ten minutes of the quarterfinal and semi final, 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.840 they just came out of the blocks a couple of 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:34.280 lucky breakouts, bounces and it's not going to happen a 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.079 third time and fuck him. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.120 He was right, he was right, Yeah, you're right. It 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.120 was like a couple of penalties. Now all of a 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.080 sudden the reef is up. Luke Jacobson being like, hey, 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.360 next time, someone's going to the bin. Yeah, so now 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.880 you're up against that. And that carried on for a long, 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.320 long long time. Yeah, happened down the other end as well. 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.600 Someone eventually did get sent to the bin. And Luke 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.480 Jacobson did I think in the end, wasn't it. 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.600 No, No, it was a prop. There was a George Dyer. 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.480 I think it got sent to the bin. But hey, 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:05.319 all in all, I think probably the best Super Rugby 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.400 season and terms of the quality of play and the 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.480 running play, and because I was a bit nervous coming 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.320 out of that World Cup, which is so turged. That 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.959 whole World Cup. There's too much TMO, there was too 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.600 much referees actually not just actually using their instinct and 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.240 actually letting the game flow. And I'm glad there was 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.080 a director for at the start of the season was like, 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.040 just use your common sense for scrum collapses, the balls 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.120 at the back play on, you know, don't put up 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.400 with any ship from half backs, run of milk, penalties, 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:36.000 just play on. Yeah, and that's it's not quite there yet, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.640 but it's gone a fucking long way to have been 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:40.600 a better product than it ever has been. 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.760 Yeah, definitely has. I hope that. I hope that people 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.080 started to latch onto their teams again because I feel 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.480 like that's when Super Rugby was humming. Everyone was like, 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.960 I'm level die by my team. Yeah, and I think 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.720 a little bit of that's starting to comeback, with the 0:12:55.760 --> 0:13:00.199 exception of the Blues. The home actually in Wellington, old 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.440 advantage is starting to come back, you know. Yeah, Highlanders 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:04.079 look quite. 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:05.599 Good to Zoo. You've got the Zoo down there, So 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:06.080 you've got. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:06.480 Zoo down there. 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.360 Yeah, you've got like a little bit of passion down there. 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.320 Even Orange Cheerry, as much as their place sucks Apollo Stadium, 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:12.760 people turn up. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.480 People turn out and they've got something to go. They've 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:17.080 got something to get behind. Now, Crusaders fans. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.320 They're like the rebuild, You've got the rebuild. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.800 Even behind them. Wellington fans should be getting behind their 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.520 team because again their squad is going to be very 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.679 similar yeah the next year, and they are going to 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.800 be knocking on the door again. So yeah, so they're 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.440 gonna be knocking on the door again, and I've they'll 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.760 learn from this season. And then obviously Chiefs fans are 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.760 just lunatics. They'll they'll they'll love it, like Blues fans 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:40.840 need to step up as well. 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:45.960 Yeah, but congratulations to them were your winners forty one ten. 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.679 The social content coming out of their celebrations, I had 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.120 to just I had to completely disengage through into the air. 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:59.560 So now looking at our calendar as commentators, it does 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.559 get all a little bit easier for the next sort 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.160 of five or six days, and then we're into the 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.440 All Blacks and the All Blacks team list gets named 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.280 later on tonight. Maybe by the time you listen to 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.400 this podcast you may actually know. But as we did 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:16.400 last year, my sources have been worrying into action. I've 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.000 been beavering away behind the scenes. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:19.640 He kidnapped, kidnapped another child. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.240 I've kidnapped people's children. It's hard. When one of the 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.760 selectors used to be Grant Fox, it's quite hard to 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:30.000 kidnap his son Ryan. Yeah, yeah, people knew where he was, 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.120 so it's kind a high profile. Was so, but no, 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:33.680 but I've been beving away I'm not going to tell 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.600 you how I've done it, but I have managed to find, 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.760 you know, a few scoops ahead of time. So we're 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:41.200 going to take a quick break. When we come back, 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.080 I'm going to get the crystal ball out and predict 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:48.720 the next All Blacks squad. All right. As I said 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:52.600 before the break, I have kidnapped someone's skid. I have. 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.160 I've been extorting the powers that be. I haven't just 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.120 read a press release before it's come out and then 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.800 completely fl out of the embargo to tell you this. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:04.560 Although some journalists do. 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.240 I don't think that they don't put a press release 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.840 out of the Blacks team prior to the announcement. 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:10.720 How are they finding this? 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:14.800 They never do that. I think that that's surely not anyway. 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.440 I've got my ear to the ground. Here's okay, here's 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.600 the squad that I'm predicting. Okay, that's going to be Now. 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:25.440 Can I say agree or disagree? Yes, okay, ago along, absolutely. 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.440 But you'll be wrong if you disagree, because this will 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:32.240 be the team Tyrell Lomax Ethan Flitch, and you'll to 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:36.360 Mighty Williams. George Bauer. I don't think that confused too 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:36.880 many people. 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.520 No, I don't know. I think that's pretty curate. I mean, 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:44.360 I think both. So is that an entire Crusaders Fletcher 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.520 newl To, Mighty Williams and George Bauer. Yes, okay, yes 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.479 there's three of them, so just a couple of Islanders 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.600 and one Blues front rower from interesting. 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:59.440 The Super Rugby Championship demolishing forwardback. Yeah, this is what 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:05.480 I'm hearing. Hookers Cody Taylor Suf obviously Tokyo's out yep, 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.240 Ricky Rickettelli, I'm hearing Ricky Rickettelli. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.360 Really yeah, because there's obviously this is there. George Bell 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:13.840 is a young hooker. 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.760 Yes, between those two, that is what I'm hearing. 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:20.840 Obviously that third hooker position is available obviously due to 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:25.640 takyaho He otherwise he'd be in there. Interesting. I quite like, 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.040 I quite like the cut of Ricky Ricattelli's GiB. Not 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.280 only does the Rhino have the greatest name ever, he 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.040 looks like a peaky blinder, he looks like a real 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.160 good bugger and people like him. He's very popular within 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.840 teams set up, so I hope he does get the 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:42.160 call up locks Yes. 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:47.920 And also your all black captain Dog Roll dog Roll Yes, 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.600 is going to be in there too. Yep is going 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.200 to be in the Patrick tooper Loor to even Charlton, 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:59.240 He's going to be in there, Yeape dependent he's going 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:03.120 to be named And I'm hearing Sam Derry Sam Darry 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.640 okay is going to be named in there, another debutante. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.080 I'm also hearing Josh Lord, who has been out injured, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.600 could be back playing for Tartanak in the NPC, with 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.639 an eye to bringing him back into the camp. This 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:14.159 is what I'm. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.639 Hearing, right, Sam Darry interesting, Yeah, Okay, that's. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.800 Darry, Sam Darry. Your loose forwards, Yes, Ardie Savier will 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.520 be back from Japan. Dalton, Papa Lee. This is where 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.439 it gets interesting. In the number eight battle we were 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.920 talking about you know all of the loose Fords that 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.800 are in the Peter Lacy yeah, Braden your set, yeah, 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.879 Wallace Sititi yeah, none of them are going to make it. Hoskins, Satutu, 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:42.359 Luke Jacobson and either Ethan Blackadder or Sammapenny Female. 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.840 Right, Okay, looks I think Female needs to be in there. 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:46.000 I think he does too. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.000 I think on form man, that guy is a weapon, 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.520 like you've got to have him flying off the line 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.679 and smash and Sea next Tuesdays, because that's that's what 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:58.440 defines the number six in New Zealand. Luke Jacobson, Yeah, 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.800 it looks solid experienced, but. 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.440 I mean Breden, you're set. I mean and well a 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.560 side City, White City. I think side Titt might be 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.639 a year to it. Yeah, I think side Titty another 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.200 super season. Have an eye on him for the next 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:12.760 World Cup. 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.120 I think it would be too early to bring him 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.639 in and I think Hoskins showed his class in the 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.399 in the weekend during that final to probably have it 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:21.480 up over him for now. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:26.000 Also, just the range of skills that Situdu has. 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.600