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Speaker 1: the mic asking, Breakfast with the Defender, Embrace the impossible news,

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Speaker 1: togs dead, been moving.

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Speaker 2: And welcome today good news. There are jobs out there

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Speaker 2: after all, we look at the new house warranties. Got

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Speaker 2: some new soul acoming our way. We got the chair

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Speaker 2: of the COVID Inquiry tells us why so many people

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Speaker 2: are quitting? Tom Newley another of our future and laws

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Speaker 2: in Scott McLoughlin's and for a moderating chat after right,

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Speaker 2: Captain Field of France, Rod Liddle is in the UK

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Speaker 2: pasking Tuesday morning. It is seven past six.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: If you follow the carbon market, and you should, it

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Speaker 2: is yet another lesson in the abject failure that almost

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Speaker 2: certainly results in gerrymandering markets. Four times a year you

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Speaker 2: get to bid for credits offsets to counter your polluting

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Speaker 2: are you do this because we've signed up to Paris

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Speaker 2: and made a bunch of promises we were never going

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Speaker 2: to be able to keep. By selling credits, the government

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Speaker 2: has the potential income of about two billion dollars a year,

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Speaker 2: except little of any of that happens because buying large

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Speaker 2: people don't turn up or bid, and they fail to

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Speaker 2: show up, broadly speaking, because people don't believe a word

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Speaker 2: the government says on climate. It's not just this government.

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Speaker 2: Last one was even worse. They've tried to set a

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Speaker 2: price for carbon credits, remembering of course that this is

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Speaker 2: stuff at the best of times, anyway, of late the

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Speaker 2: At the moment enter Simon Watts, climate minister. Now, he

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Speaker 2: doesn't normally talk about the market because that's interference, the

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Speaker 2: same way the Prime Minister doesn't talk about the Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 2: But Simon has talked about the market and has done

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Speaker 2: that because well, the government of Panics. He issued a

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Speaker 2: at the carbon market, the ets there's still a thing.

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Speaker 2: We are still committed. It is still going to happen.

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Speaker 2: His commitments, he said, ah, firm. Except Simon, that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: No one believes you. This is a government that says

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Speaker 2: one thing, acts the other. Now, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 2: what roughly they're doing is the right thing to do.

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Speaker 2: Because the tide has gone out on climate. The promises

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Speaker 2: next zero. So the answer is to stop pretending you are.

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Speaker 2: Science might come to the rescue, and if it does, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: But the governmental promises around carbon and the ets and

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Speaker 2: no better proof of that than a carbon market, the

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Speaker 2: same thing. No one's buying, figuratively or literally.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety second, right.

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Speaker 2: The war fixed yet No, but things are moving.

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Speaker 4: We will continue explaining how dangerous it is to pretend

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Speaker 4: that aggression is something one can simply overlook and move on.

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Speaker 2: Rubio's Trump's point.

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Speaker 5: Man, in order to have a proposal, you have to

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Speaker 5: rate it. You know, if it's just verbal, it's in

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Speaker 5: Input, and based on that input you make adjustments and

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Speaker 2: It's simple. Europe is there but kind of on the sidelines.

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Speaker 6: Along with President Macroan, I've been leading the Coalition of

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Speaker 2: So what you said there, what he said there is

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Speaker 2: He's organized as zoom. That's all they see it. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: in Britain, the BBC has lined up today to answer

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Speaker 2: reputational issues others. Bloke in Mini respects as the whistleblower,

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Speaker 2: do you regret writing the moments, Prescott?

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Speaker 6: I look forward to giving a full account of everything

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Speaker 7: I'm very pleased that they've invited me here today. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: And this blog used to be on the board.

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Speaker 8: The particular elements involved in the Trump editorial were not

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Speaker 2: Finally, shipwreck news. We got the San Jose. This is

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Speaker 2: on display. News of the World and native inflation in Singapore.

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Speaker 2: Evy this odd. I'm not sure what it says about

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Speaker 2: Britain are They've announced overnight a new national day to

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Speaker 2: to be twenty first of August. It's the first one,

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Speaker 2: driven out of the Manchester Arena attacks. Apart from that,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Tuesday. Yeah, Molly, Mike Auckland, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Turn arounds on green shirts, got flickers, go for it,

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Speaker 7: All, Oh, you've just done it all, haven't you yet.

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Speaker 11: Over the past few weeks, Mike, we've been mentioning the

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Speaker 11: for that, Simon. Sentiments is cautious, but the tone has shifted.

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Speaker 11: So where's the evidence for all of this? If we

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Speaker 11: deal down to the numbers, Mike, those rating their overall

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Speaker 7: That's a material move.

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Speaker 11: Neutral sentiment has climbed with thirty nine percent more than

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Speaker 11: a little step back. The listed property sector has enjoyed

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Speaker 11: Kelliher Junior has made its way from London across the

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Speaker 7: On the NASAK.

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Speaker 11: Forget about that sell off last week, because that market

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Speaker 11: The footsy one hundred lost five points ninety five three four.

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Speaker 11: The AUSSI has had a good day yesterday at one

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Speaker 2: Andrew Keller as Sure and Partners Cosking comic. First ever

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Speaker 2: by Heritage Octions. How much sixteen point two five million

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Speaker 2: It'd be jeez, you've gone off on the Christmas decas

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Speaker 2: we become a kmart country. It's just cheap crap and

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Speaker 2: you can't buy any quality Christmas decorations. And of course

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Speaker 2: all of you have gone, oh, what about Valentine's. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it still is Valentine's, but the department store is gone,

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Speaker 2: so you've all gone, what about Valentine's? What Aboutvalentine's? Then

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Speaker 2: comes in Ikedahuna Masson. That sounds very exotic, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Ekeraitahuna Messon de messon in Ekedahuna wild roses entire happy.

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Speaker 2: Perfect Tree Baubles, Mike at Valentine's and christ Church Waterford

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Speaker 2: Winter Wonder Babules six for three thousand, eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: Brooklyn Nets, NBA. Michael Porter Junior one of those guys

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Speaker 2: who says what he thinks, very says what he thinks.

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Speaker 2: the carneo West of the NBA, that he takes advice

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Speaker 2: on how to treat women from Andrew Tait. All that

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Speaker 2: crap anyway, Then he rolls out the high school team

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Speaker 2: could have beaten a WNBA All Star team, and then

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Speaker 2: he goes, someone in the eighth grade could beat a

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Speaker 2: WNBA team. So it's that sort of stuff anyway. Sean

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Speaker 2: Mark's our old mate, Sean Marks. Of course in the Nets,

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Speaker 2: he's the manager of the Nets these days. He goes,

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Speaker 2: can you please stop and giving our team is currently

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Speaker 2: two and twelve, Maybe you should focus on basketball. But

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Speaker 2: then this morning a twist he has support who from

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Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham, who's she Well, she's a rising star of

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Speaker 10: You're in that alle level group. Yeah, you should be

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Speaker 10: able to beat the girls. And like if women are

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Speaker 10: saying that, like you couldn't beat them, Yeah, he could.

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Speaker 10: It just depends how big they are at that age

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Speaker 12: I mean it's probably true. Like like I don't.

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Speaker 10: Want to be unrealistic or delusional, Like men are just stronger,

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Speaker 10: bigger athletic, Like they just are a different build. And

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Speaker 10: so if you put them up against females of I'm like, wellgether,

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Speaker 10: They're gonna win.

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Speaker 2: Uh They're so there we go surfay stage as bacon

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Speaker 2: maybe anyway, listen the A couple of things in Britain.

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Speaker 2: One is a report out this morning. Talked a lot

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Speaker 2: about this that I mean, obviously the budget's the big

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Speaker 2: to build nuclear power plants. And on related matters, we've

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Speaker 2: got go on another one of these massive soul of projects.

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Speaker 2: It's a quarter billion dollars worth of investment and the

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Speaker 2: reports I'm reading is finally supplies starting to meet demands.

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Speaker 2: So We'll do all the detail on that later on

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Speaker 1: Them today, the newsmakers and the personalities, the big names

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Speaker 1: talk to Mike the mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate,

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Speaker 1: doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy three, news talks

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Speaker 1: dead been well.

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Speaker 2: Rubio has been very bullish about the twenty eight point plan,

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Speaker 2: which I understand now to be down to nineteen. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Catherine Field's been monitoring this forest and we'll go to

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Speaker 2: Paris very shortly. Meantime, at twenty three minutes away from

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Speaker 2: seven more signs of New Zealand and turn around. Our

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Speaker 2: job adds are up seven percent on a year ago,

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Speaker 2: best November since twenty twenty two. Sport and wreck are hot,

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Speaker 2: along with construction, tourism, in education applications perab though interestingly,

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Speaker 2: are also up. A Rob Clark, a six country manager,

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Speaker 2: enters back with us, Rob, morning, good minding my seven

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Speaker 2: percent at any other time year on year? Are we

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Speaker 2: starting to roll a bit here? Is that a good

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Speaker 13: It's a good number we are seeing. I would describe

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Speaker 13: it as modest game. So that's the fourth consecutive month

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Speaker 13: we have seen a one percent increase, which gives us

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Speaker 13: a sort of three percent quarter on quarter growth. So

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Speaker 13: it's certainly a lot better that it has been over

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Speaker 2: So there's no seasonality about it. See, I look at

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Speaker 2: tourism and go, we'll hold on summertime tourists. Of course,

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Speaker 2: the job adds are up. Is there anything that it's

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Speaker 2: a good point?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 13: No, these are seasonally adjusted numbers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, tourism over the summer, will that be a thing,

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Speaker 2: and therefore we'll see more of this. In other words,

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Speaker 2: can I feel good about these numbers?

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Speaker 13: Well, you should feel good, you know, hostgown and tourism

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Speaker 13: obviously is a really important over the summer. But we've

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Speaker 13: also seen some good progress in other industries. Take it

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Speaker 13: for example, they've had a pretty torrid time over the

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Speaker 13: last couple of years, but they're now up fifteen percent

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Speaker 13: year on year, which is really encouraging in a good sign. Equally,

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Speaker 13: areas like construction, which also has been hit pretty hard,

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Speaker 13: up almost thirty percent year on year now.

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Speaker 2: Right, So that's the sectors. What about the regionality? We

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Speaker 2: see much variation there generally.

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Speaker 13: So so if we take the latest month, you know,

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Speaker 13: One is, you know, the sort of Canterbury Otago Southland.

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Speaker 13: The area is rarely going well. You know, they're up

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Speaker 13: good progress there, you know, good investment down there, with

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Speaker 13: sort of looks like it's a little more stable, increased

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. The applications being up, what's that tell you?

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Speaker 13: It's still really competitive out there mic for job seekers.

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Speaker 13: You know, we're still seeing record levels of applications relative

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Speaker 13: if you are looking for roles. Unfortunately, we are seeing

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Speaker 13: a bit more activity in kiwis applying for roles in Australia,

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Speaker 13: and that's just not unusual when we have an unemployment

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I notice at the moment. Students

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Speaker 13: If you're a student, getting job absolutely really tough. You know,

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Speaker 13: personally I can vouch it out as well. And you

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Speaker 13: part time here, part time there, really grinding it out

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Speaker 2: Has the good people thing ever waned? I mean, and

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Speaker 2: from personal experience and various bits and pieces of my

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Speaker 2: good people still hard to find, always have been, probably

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Speaker 2: always will be. Is that fair?

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Speaker 13: That's absolutely fair? Always the case. We always talk in averages,

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Speaker 13: of course, and you'll have some roles that there's a

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Speaker 13: plenty of huge number of talent available, but there's always

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Speaker 13: really tough areas which are hard to fill, more specialist roles,

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Speaker 2: You feel good for twenty six or not?

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Speaker 13: I feel better.

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Speaker 7: I feel better than this time last year. Mate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're a nice to talk Rob Clark, who's

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Speaker 2: Matron's got this idea of a new voluntary military service plan.

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Speaker 2: Now you say to yourself, hang on, didn't you tell

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Speaker 2: me something about this the other day?

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Speaker 13: Mike?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did, And that was in Germany, so you

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Speaker 2: Christmas glass balls? Who doesn't love a glass ball? Mike

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Speaker 2: Autriiy Surowski, Waterford and French Country. We've been collecting for

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Speaker 2: teen years. See it is a thing. Beautiful Christmas decks,

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Speaker 2: tried diamonds on sedden In Why he as good as

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Speaker 2: Balentine's worth A drive.

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Speaker 1: Six five International Correspondence, squid ends and eye Insurance, Peace

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Speaker 1: of Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: A Field morning to you, good running mate. Your observation

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Speaker 2: does peris through Christmas?

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Speaker 14: Will Ah does it brilliantly? Mike Ah, you should be here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've never been to Paris at Christmas time, but

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Speaker 2: I have been to London. London v Paris. Who would

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Speaker 2: you call?

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Speaker 14: Come on, there's a loaded question, of course, I'm going

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Speaker 14: to say.

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Speaker 2: Paris, fair enough. So anyway, where are we at? Rubio's

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Speaker 2: in town has been and they're all there with coffin cove.

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Speaker 2: So we're down to what nineteen points? Where does this go?

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Speaker 14: At the moment we really don't know if it's going

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Speaker 14: to go anywhere.

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Speaker 12: Here's the problem, Mike.

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Speaker 14: The proposal to end the conflict in Ukraine seems to

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Speaker 14: be roundly rejected. It's been put forward as a proposal

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Speaker 14: that came from the White House, then it seems to

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Speaker 14: have come from the State Department, then it is. And anyway,

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Speaker 14: it seemed that it was really Russia's proposal that was

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Speaker 14: a pretty much a take it or leave it along

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Speaker 14: the lines of an agreement which they put forward several

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Speaker 14: years ago.

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Speaker 12: Here's the problem for Ukraine, Mike. Even if they agreed to.

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Speaker 14: This twenty eight point plan, which is now nineteen points,

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Speaker 14: it would leave Ukraine with an unjust peace, which would

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Speaker 14: then of course not be a lasting peace because the

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Speaker 14: plan as it was put forward, restricted Ukraine from the

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Speaker 14: size of its own forces, restricted from joining NATO, and

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Speaker 14: of course it would lose large parts of its territory.

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Speaker 12: So it really wasn't going anywhere. The problem now is

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Speaker 12: everyone's gone home.

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Speaker 14: We're still waiting to hear what the Ukrainians are going

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Speaker 14: to respond to it, how the Americans are going to respond.

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Speaker 14: And of course the Europeans, they were completely blindsided by

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Speaker 14: this new plan that came forward. They scrambled to find

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Speaker 14: out what was going on. They have now pretty much

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Speaker 14: liked Ukraine. They've had to start talking nice again to

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Speaker 14: the US to try and bring them back from the

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Speaker 14: seemingly hardline peace plan proposals.

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Speaker 12: So we've had the Germans.

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Speaker 14: The French, and the United Kingdom the Brits saying this

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Speaker 14: peace plan cannot go anywhere. It borders, can't be changed

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Speaker 14: by force, you can't leave Ukraine week and anyway at

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Speaker 14: the end of the day, Mike, and this has been

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Speaker 14: the interesting thing is that now that Europe is actually

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Speaker 14: footing most of the bell for Ukraine, it has a

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Speaker 14: stronger voice in these negotiations. So what they're saying is

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Speaker 14: calm down, everyone go back to the drawing board. Because

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Speaker 14: even with these nineteen points. Everyone knows that the Russians

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Speaker 14: aren't going to agree to it.

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Speaker 2: Now, this thing I alluded to a moment ago. Did

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Speaker 2: he steal this from Germany? So Germany is looking to

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Speaker 2: boost their standing army, they're going to have military service.

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Speaker 2: Is this the same thing that Macron's doing?

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Speaker 12: It is?

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Speaker 14: Nakron has sort of talked about it earlier this year, Mike,

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Speaker 14: what he wants to do is pretty much along the

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Speaker 14: same lines. Not a compulsory mountry service, but a voluntary

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Speaker 14: service aimed at people aged eighteen years and over.

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Speaker 12: Instead of doing the sort of.

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Speaker 14: Three or four years, it could look at someone doing

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Speaker 14: ten months service.

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Speaker 12: Also, some people have even called it as sort of

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Speaker 12: summer job.

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Speaker 14: If you like, you go into the military, you train,

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Speaker 14: you get paid. They really do have to do something

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Speaker 14: because they've got to get their army up to what

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Speaker 14: some sort of ten by twenty thirty reservers fifty by

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Speaker 14: twenty thirty five. You know, this sort of does reflect

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Speaker 14: what's going on in Europe's fears of what.

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Speaker 12: Russia is up to.

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Speaker 14: But it got something of a jolt in the armor,

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Speaker 14: if you like Mike. Last week when the most senior

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Speaker 14: military chief in France warned French mayors that France should

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Speaker 14: be ready to lose its children in the case of

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Speaker 14: a dispute with Russia in the next ten fifteen years.

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Speaker 14: So that's really got every one thinking, Wow, this is

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Speaker 14: really much more important than we thought it was. So

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Speaker 14: Macron may well adjust this voluntary service a bit, Mike.

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Speaker 12: One of the theories that coming up.

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Speaker 14: With is that they would just be used for duties

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Speaker 14: inside France, so would take over, say, duties of patrolling

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Speaker 14: Harrah's streets during terrorist alerts, things like that, as opposed

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Speaker 14: to having them serve abroad.

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Speaker 2: All right, now was a pleasure, Catherine, catch up next week,

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Speaker 2: Catherine Field in France. By the way, just developing this morning.

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Speaker 2: This in a way was always heading this way, but

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Speaker 2: the fact that it's happened is another nail on the

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Speaker 2: Trump coffin. Judicially speaking, anyway, the James Coney Letitia James

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Speaker 2: Letitia James without New York, of course you know who

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Speaker 2: Coney is. Anyway, he rounded them up and he did

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Speaker 2: it in the dodgy way, and so a judges just

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Speaker 2: dismissed the indictments. Problem being Lindsay Helligan, who's the US

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Speaker 2: attorney on this one. She's only the interim US attorney

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Speaker 2: because the previous US attorney said, I'm not rounding them up. President,

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna it's not yet. So anyway, they got

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Speaker 2: let go and Lindsay got hired, and Lindsay rounded them up,

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Speaker 2: and the appointment of Lindsay is invalid. So we'll see

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Speaker 2: what the White House has to say about that. Ten

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike asking Breakfast with the Defender and news togs.

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Speaker 2: Dead b Morning, Mike, Christmas decorations Riverstone Wi Matti, See

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Speaker 2: we are getting this low.

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Speaker 15: Why haven't it just getting like a packet of crape

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Speaker 15: paper and cutting it up into streamers and putting that on.

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Speaker 2: No, okay, do you use the colored sand as well

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Speaker 2: at your place to eglint? Now here's a guy. Now

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Speaker 2: this is the lesson. So there was a weird poll

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Speaker 2: out yesterday on It was so weird I barely even

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Speaker 2: read it. But the inference was that we if we're

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Speaker 2: going to deal with the CGT, you know, labor party

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Speaker 2: capital gains tax, we really want it post inflation. So

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Speaker 2: in other words, not the profit on the house from

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Speaker 2: the point of time of purchase, but we want it

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Speaker 2: post inflation anyway. My point. So basically, this thing's going

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Speaker 2: to blow up in their face and the election you

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Speaker 2: mark my words. Anyway. So this morning the Business Secretary

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Speaker 2: in Britain, Peter Kyle, is on the television. He's going

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Speaker 2: people are leaving Britain and drives, this is a growth emergency.

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Speaker 2: He is worried that entrepreneurs were leaving in quote unquote Drives.

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Speaker 2: He would not duck the impact of higher tax burden.

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Speaker 2: So he even he recognizes and of course we've got Thursday,

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Speaker 2: we've got the UK budget and that's going to be

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Speaker 2: a disaster. Even he recognizes the problems of higher taxes.

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Speaker 2: It's the shame the Labor government to or the Labor

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Speaker 2: party here don't understand that five minutes away from seven,

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Speaker 2: all the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business Faber, take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: The good news is we've got all of twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six to talk about it. Okay, Americans on the road Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: Airlines predicting another record shutdowns over the planes already are

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Speaker 2: no cost of living crisis here. Between last Friday and Monday,

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Speaker 2: December one, they're expecting thirty one million people. American airlines

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Speaker 2: alone are going to put on almost eighty one thousand flights.

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Speaker 2: Busiest day Sunday after Thanksgiving, with about three point four

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Speaker 2: million people on the move three point one million the

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Speaker 2: Monday after Thanksgiving. So bottom line is that bank, Yes,

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Speaker 2: it is Bank of America. They say the big network

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Speaker 2: airlines are going to be pulling in between two hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty and three hundred and fifty mins just for

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Speaker 2: the Thanksgiving period. The smaller airlines are going to pull

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Speaker 2: in about one hundred and eighty million just Thanksgiving. Bookings

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Speaker 2: for international trips are also up ten percent on last

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Speaker 2: year for the holiday period. That, by the way, is

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Speaker 2: a record. Now, yesterday's story that we've got this warranty thing,

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Speaker 2: didn't it get It got announced several months ago, didn't it?

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Speaker 2: The government said, what we're doing is we're changing the rules.

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Speaker 2: You don't need a warranty. So I don't know what

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Speaker 2: yesterday was about. It was just sort of a reiteration

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Speaker 2: of what they'd already announced. Anyway, do you realize you're

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Speaker 2: going to need a warranty When you build a house,

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Speaker 2: You're going to need a warranty And that's going to

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Speaker 2: be zero point five percent? Was it funny of me? Yesterday?

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Speaker 2: I was watching lux and speaking of all this, he

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Speaker 2: made the announcement at the opening of a lorreol Lorrel warehouse.

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Speaker 2: And Lorel supplies quite expensive stuff. And when you see

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Speaker 2: it in a department stop, you go, oh, that's flash

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Speaker 2: that's flash stuff Loril from France. When you see it

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Speaker 2: in a warehouse, all packaged up, nine million individual bits

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Speaker 2: of it, all cellophane together, stuck together, up side down,

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Speaker 2: and you think, not quite so sophisticated, is it in

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Speaker 2: a warehouse? I wonder what the markup is from that

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Speaker 2: in the warehouse to the time it gets all polished

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Speaker 2: and shining on your department store shelf. My just Boseete's business,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? Anyway, we'll talk about this warranty business and

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Speaker 2: then we'll talk to the head of this COVID inquiry.

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Speaker 2: What's going on here? There's a lot of resignations. Is

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Speaker 2: there something suspicious to be talked about? More later?

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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling, The breakfast show you can't bess it's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life Your

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Speaker 1: Way News, togs Head been.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven, So we've got more detail on the

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Speaker 2: government's reorganization of construction warranties coming for all new homes

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Speaker 2: and renovations over one hundred thousand dollars. They'll cover you

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Speaker 2: for one year defects, ten year structure, all the bills

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Speaker 2: about half of a percent of the total build price.

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Speaker 2: Karl Taylor is the CEO of Combined Building Supplies co

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Speaker 2: OP and is with us. Carlganborning, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm very well? Indeed, is this affixes this the problem solved?

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Speaker 2: Do I never have to interview you about problems like

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Speaker 2: the civil Again?

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Speaker 9: Look, I think it's the start of solving a problem.

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Speaker 9: The biggest issue we have from an organization is that

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Speaker 9: we've only got three players in the market, and only

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Speaker 9: one of them.

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Speaker 1: Is truly independent. So I'm quite.

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Speaker 9: Fearful that we're naturally going to create a unintentional monopoly

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Speaker 9: in the due course when this happens.

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Speaker 2: If you were going to do that, and we saw

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Speaker 2: us doing that, why wouldn't somebody into the market or

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Speaker 2: offer an alternative if it's there to be had.

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Speaker 7: The market work.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the problem is we're not big enough for this

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Speaker 9: We've had insurance here before and they've left the country.

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Speaker 9: We're just not a big enough country to warrant. However,

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Speaker 9: we're currently talking to insurers as well and trying to

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Speaker 9: get some more here. We just need some more competition

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Speaker 9: around this space. And not everyone wants to become a

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Speaker 9: member of an organization. So if you look at a

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Speaker 9: smaller builder, he may not want to join an organization

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Speaker 9: just to offer a guarantee. So we need to be

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Speaker 9: able to offer them more choreoice than the one that's

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Speaker 9: currently available that's independent.

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Speaker 2: How much of this is about cowboys in the marketplace

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Speaker 2: and solving that particular problem.

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Speaker 9: Look, as business owners, I think we've all had dare

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Speaker 9: I say, mongrel clients. We've all had those, and a

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Speaker 9: product will certainly help that. And there are some cowboys

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Speaker 9: out there, but the majority of the industry are just

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Speaker 9: good operators and not much will change with that. But again,

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Speaker 9: we just need more choice in this market.

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Speaker 2: And how does this stub tailing with the master bill guarantee.

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Speaker 9: Well, there's only one product of three, so again I

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Speaker 9: don't want to speak about anyone else's product, but they

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Speaker 9: all have they're positive and negative. I think most of

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Speaker 9: them have probably more their negatives at the moment from

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Speaker 9: what I am led to believe in what I'm told.

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Speaker 2: Here's another good question from a listener is the new

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Speaker 2: building warranty, does the person who made the mistake fix

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Speaker 2: it or do you get to choose the person to

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Speaker 2: fix it for yourself?

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Speaker 9: Apparently at the moment, from my understanding, with the current

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Speaker 9: products in the market, you don't get the true to

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Speaker 9: pick your builder, like any insurance policy. But that's that

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Speaker 9: stuff at all. There's a lot of unanswered questions around this,

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Speaker 9: which is why we're sort of starting to voice some

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Speaker 9: concern around it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so give me your pricy. If your magic won

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Speaker 2: this one, where are you at with it? What do

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Speaker 2: you want done? And if you do all of that,

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Speaker 2: are we good to go.

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Speaker 9: Look, I think like any other insurance like car insurance,

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Speaker 9: house insurance, you need more players. You need at least

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Speaker 9: five or six choices. We don't have that at the moment. Again,

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Speaker 9: this doesn't come out until it doesn't come into Laura

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Speaker 9: until twenty seven. We've got time to.

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Speaker 3: Get it here.

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Speaker 9: At the moment, there's just enough choice.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. CUP appreciate the insight. Carle Taylor, who's the

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Speaker 2: CEO of the Combined Building Supplies co OP. So that

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Speaker 2: was worthwhile. Actually, ten minutes past seven, I'd say I

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Speaker 2: wasn't anticipating he was going to be good, because I was,

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Speaker 2: but he was better than I actually thought he was

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Speaker 2: going to be Anyway. You might remember the government created

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Speaker 2: a Social Investment Fund, started with one hundred and ninety million.

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Speaker 2: Fifty of that's about to be handed out. We've got

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Speaker 2: seven programs covering kids from newborns to adulthood are covered

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Speaker 2: in this. Nicola Willis's the Minister for Social Investment and

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Speaker 2: is with us. Good morning, Good morning mate. The demand

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Speaker 2: vsupply curve, you've got a lot more demand than you

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Speaker 2: have supply.

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Speaker 16: That's right. But we've also got a government, over successive governments,

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Speaker 16: that spends billions of dollars trying to intervene to stop

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Speaker 16: people having bad lives. Hasn't been very successful at it

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Speaker 16: in many cases, hasn't used data enough, hasn't contracted well.

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Speaker 16: We're taking a completely new approach, using data, measuring outcomes,

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Speaker 16: holding organizations accountable for their results, and if we prove

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Speaker 16: that it works, then we scale it up.

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Speaker 2: How confident are you sitting here this morning that it

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Speaker 2: will work materially well.

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Speaker 16: With each of these groups. The first thing we've done

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Speaker 16: is say who are you going to target? That's not

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Speaker 16: always the case in government contracts, and we've narrowed it

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Speaker 16: down to three groups who we know intervening really really

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Speaker 16: makes a difference for that's kids whose parents have already

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Speaker 16: or have recently been in jail, kids whose parents have

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Speaker 16: been in the orring and tamariki system, and kids have

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Speaker 16: been stood down or suspended from school before they're thirteen.

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Speaker 16: We know that those kids, if you inter being early,

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Speaker 16: you can make a big difference. The second thing we've

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Speaker 16: done is we're working with organizations who are prepared to

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Speaker 16: be measured on the outcomes that they get for every

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Speaker 16: person that they're engaging, and we're using a comparison data set,

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Speaker 16: so they're prepared to be compared with, well, what happens

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Speaker 16: to kids who aren't working with your organization, And we're

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Speaker 16: going to work with those organizations to monitor it. So

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Speaker 16: I'm confident we will have much better information about what

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Speaker 16: we're actually getting for our money with each of these programs. Now,

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Speaker 16: there is a risk, Mike, that one of them doesn't

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Speaker 16: actually deliver what they thought they would or said they would.

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Speaker 16: The good thing here is the data will tell us that,

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Speaker 16: and we'll say, okay, well that's that contract. We won't

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Speaker 16: be renewing that in future.

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Speaker 2: Will we? How depress should I because in reading about

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Speaker 2: it yesterday, I'm matting up the number of kids one

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Speaker 2: twenty two hundred and two hundred and four to fifteen

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Speaker 2: one hundred and I know this is just early days,

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Speaker 2: but it's eleven hundred Dish kids in this country. How

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Speaker 2: many kids are there in this country that need interference

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Speaker 2: from the state to sort their lives out because they've

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Speaker 2: been born into dire circumstances.

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Speaker 16: Well, I would say that that number would be in

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Speaker 16: the thousands. What I'd say is that there are also

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Speaker 16: interventions on a small scale that can be effective early.

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Speaker 16: So let's think about this. If you put thirty five

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Speaker 16: thousand dollars into a child early, you sort them out,

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Speaker 16: you're going to save yourself, not only the hundreds of

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Speaker 16: thousands you could spend on boot camps and prison sentences.

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Speaker 16: You're going to save the impact to society that occurs

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Speaker 16: when they victimize other kids. But actually, these are children

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Speaker 16: who are perfectly capable of being contributing citizens, of having

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Speaker 16: good jobs, of paying tax, of contributing to their family

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Speaker 16: life and their community life. So I think every child

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Speaker 16: who we turn around effectively with an intervention that works

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Speaker 16: as a child worth working.

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Speaker 2: For good stuff, go well, Nichola Willis it is let's

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Speaker 2: call it thirteen past seven, which could ask get quickly

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Speaker 2: on the Trump thing, Comy Letitia James, which is breaking

752
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Speaker 2: about half an hour ago. I agree with mister Comy

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Speaker 2: that the Attorney General's attempt to install Miss Halligan as

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Speaker 2: interim us Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia was invalid,

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Speaker 2: and because Miss Halligan has no lawful authority to present

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Speaker 2: the indictment, I will grant mister Commey's motion and dismiss

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Speaker 2: the indictment. So he's dismissed that for now until I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming they find somebody else with legitimate status. And that's

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Speaker 2: before we get to the mess. Domestically, back home at

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Speaker 2: Wellington Water, reliance on consultants and contractors external communications contractor

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Speaker 2: one point three million dollars in communications budget. A budget

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Speaker 2: of one point three million dollars last year was nine

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one thousand, so it's gone from nine

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Speaker 2: twenty one to one point three million dollars just Wellington Water,

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Speaker 2: just to talk about water, just to pr just to

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Speaker 2: spin it, just a corporate parasit it done really fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: Be Genesis go on the solar energy turn in thirty

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Speaker 2: six million. This is near Edgecomb the edgecumb solar farm projects.

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Speaker 2: So that's almost thirty thousand homes a month the second

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Speaker 2: half of twenty twenty seven. They're paying for it themselves,

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Speaker 2: which is quite good given that's turn in thirty six million.

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Speaker 2: They will capital recycle. Other parties get involved at a

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Speaker 2: later stage. So that's interesting. But if you want to

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Speaker 2: and I'm increasingly fascinated by what we're doing in this

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Speaker 2: country with renewables, not just because they're renewables, but because

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Speaker 2: we don't have enough power to turn the lights on

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Speaker 2: gom you know. And that's before we get to the

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Speaker 2: data centers and all the other AI stuff. Anyway, Simpson Grierson,

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Speaker 2: they do a thing called the Energy Outlook twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five and they said that's one of these big market

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Speaker 2: leading reports that sort of had his no over arching

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Speaker 2: view of what's going on. Anyway, the latest report, which

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Speaker 2: is well worth looking up and reading, international invested confidence

786
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Speaker 2: has reached its highest level since twenty nineteen, so that's good.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the government has said so explicitly, but

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Speaker 2: I don't think the two hundred million skin in the

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Speaker 2: game thing they did with oil and gas is working.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think the world is out there going,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, well that's not going to that'll change again

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Speaker 2: when labor get back in. If labor get back in,

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Speaker 2: so why would we take the risk. I don't think

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Speaker 2: that side of the equation is working, but it does appear,

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Speaker 2: according to this report to be working in terms of

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Speaker 2: renewables and international money, so the highest level since twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: so that's encouraging. Torrents they call it their word, not mine,

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Speaker 2: a torrent of regulatory reform that we've seen in this

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Speaker 2: country that's beginning to deliver results. New Zealand is a

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Speaker 2: testing ground for emerging energy technologies utility scale solar, battery storage,

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Speaker 2: and distributed energy systems. That all seems to be going well.

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Speaker 2: They're bullish on the Fast Track Approvals Amendment bill, so

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Speaker 2: that looks good. So in other words, things are coming right,

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Speaker 2: and if you go into the report and I can't

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Speaker 2: remember what their specific terminology was, but the alert that

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Speaker 2: Transpower puts out in the middle of winter when we

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Speaker 2: don't have enough power, they do that whole tomorrow morning

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Speaker 2: could be a bit dodgy. Those there were eleven last year,

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Speaker 2: there's won this year. So it's gone from eleven to one.

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Speaker 2: And that's about demand and supply. Demand hasn't gone down,

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Speaker 2: but supply has gone up, so that's encouraging. So it

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Speaker 2: would appear that at long last that the renewable, the investment,

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Speaker 2: the bringing of product to market is actually starting to

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Speaker 2: work and we are actually solving our problem, and the

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Speaker 2: rules are changing. The world is looking the money is

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Speaker 2: flowing and we can almost fingers crossed, say we tick

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Speaker 2: that box. So we'll take that. Seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: this week in one final stab, this year will most

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Speaker 2: at two point twenty five percent. Now, the Cooperative Bank

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Speaker 2: last week claim they're the only ones who are fully

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Speaker 2: the bank margins remain high, and as of a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks ago when the banks were reporting, they reported

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Speaker 2: their margins were in fact expanding. Now counter to all

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Speaker 2: of that is the Cooperative Bank themselves. If what they

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Speaker 2: say is correct, good on them. But what does that prove.

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Speaker 2: It proves as competition, doesn't it. It proves that the

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Speaker 2: I don't have a deal that good? You can, in fact,

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Speaker 2: have always been able to chain banks. So in offering

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Speaker 2: think it's fair to suggest that in reference to the

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Speaker 2: floating rate, not many people generally are on the floating rate,

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Speaker 2: and even if you have a few at the moment,

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Speaker 2: you know, waiting to lock up when a final cut comes.

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Speaker 2: The overarching theme of New Zealand lending generally is one

872
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Speaker 2: of fixed rates. So perhaps a better example would be

873
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Speaker 2: what the competition is like around that part of the

874
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Speaker 2: market that is most used and therefore I'm assuming the

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Speaker 2: most competitive. So you can see my dilemma here, my

876
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Speaker 2: ongoing issue. I can find you examples of banks behaving,

877
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Speaker 2: if not badly, at least suspiciously, thus giving weight to

878
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Speaker 2: those who argue oligopolies. But I can find examples of good, clean,

879
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Speaker 2: open competition where deals are to be done. So once again,

880
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Speaker 2: the simple question was seemingly no solid answer. Who is right, Mike?

881
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Speaker 2: In regards to energy, how much of that was due

882
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Speaker 2: to the lakes being full? No, that's a very good question,

883
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Speaker 2: it's a relevant question, and several of you have texted that.

884
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Speaker 2: But these reports, these big overarching reports, a look through

885
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Speaker 2: through that. They talk about dry years and difficult years

886
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Speaker 2: as well. So, in other words, do we have enough

887
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Speaker 2: reserve resource to cover off the difficult years. I think

888
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Speaker 2: this last winter has been fine, But their bigger picture

889
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Speaker 2: than that. So what I'm saying is overall, because that

890
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Speaker 2: goes back to Onslow, of course, and the adourn thought

891
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: bubble that would go and dig a big hole in

892
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Speaker 2: the ground and just keep it sitting there at the

893
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Speaker 2: tune of thirty odd billion dollars just in case. But

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Speaker 2: these reports do paint the picture that even in a

895
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Speaker 2: tough year, we still will have enough resource. So that

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Speaker 2: but it's a fair question, Mike. This is fifty one

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Speaker 2: percent by the government. Why not have incentives for domestic solar.

898
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Speaker 2: You don't want to go down that track. Read as

899
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Speaker 2: much as you can about what's happening in Australia to

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Speaker 2: a lesser degree in the UK. But Australia's gone down

901
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: that track and they got trapped. So they incentivize people

902
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Speaker 2: to do all sorts of things with solar. I argue

903
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: they sucked them in. They said, put some solar on

904
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Speaker 2: the roof, and I tell you what, when you feed

905
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Speaker 2: it to the grid, will pay you money. Then of

906
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Speaker 2: course everyone did, and then they said, oh I got

907
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Speaker 2: some spare solar power. For you, and they go, actually,

908
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Speaker 2: we've got too much solar power there. We're not going

909
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Speaker 2: to pay you any money at all. They're now at

910
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Speaker 2: the point where they go, hey, have you got some

911
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Speaker 2: extra solar power? Oh cool, we'll charge you for that.

912
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Speaker 2: So it's gone from we'll give you money to no

913
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Speaker 2: money at all, to you can pay us. So don't

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Speaker 2: get sucked into that. The moment, and I tried to

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Speaker 2: start this at the beginning of the show, The moment

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Speaker 2: Government's Jerrymanda markets You are in deep, deep trouble and

917
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Speaker 2: often governments don't know how to get themselves out of it.

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Speaker 2: Right COVID the inquiry, a lot of questions, will talk

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Speaker 2: to the man in charge.

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Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate the my Hosking,

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Speaker 1: breakfast with the defender, Embrace the impossible news, togsad Bey.

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Speaker 2: Three minutes away from a right to the COVID inquiries.

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Speaker 2: Who mentioned yesterday Britain's when completed or Britain's COVID inquiry

924
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Speaker 2: has been completed in the findings of damning and one

925
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Speaker 2: of the major suggestions was lockdowns may nots have been

926
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Speaker 2: needed if the government had their act together. Problem with

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Speaker 2: ours is we keep getting resignations labors being executive director

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Speaker 2: Andrews Sweet Grant Illingworth k C is the chair of

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Speaker 2: the inquiry and is with us.

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Speaker 7: Good mornings, it's good monning.

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Speaker 2: Make do you have to two any resignations.

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Speaker 3: No, we've got a situation where we have a delivery

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Speaker 3: deadline of the twenty sixth of February. We've got some

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Speaker 3: very very talented people who have been with us most

935
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Speaker 3: of the time.

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Speaker 17: They've got to.

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Speaker 3: Find employment for when we finish our job. And it's

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Speaker 3: perfectly natural that we've got a bit of turnover at

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Speaker 3: the moment.

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Speaker 2: Are they turning over or leaving because they haven't enjoyed

941
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Speaker 2: the experience or they have problems with the experience?

942
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Speaker 3: Well, there's nobody in the past several months who has

943
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Speaker 3: expressed any view that they are leaving it because they

944
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Speaker 3: haven't enjoyed the experience.

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Speaker 2: Why did internal affairs suggest that there's been some staff

946
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Speaker 2: problems and some problems have been raised with them.

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Speaker 3: Look, in every organization you get people bumping up against

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Speaker 3: each other. We have a new team. Trying to get

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Speaker 3: everyone into their right lanes is not always easy. But

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Speaker 3: we have had the incredible fortune of having people who

951
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Speaker 3: are just so skilled in the areas that it's very,

952
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Speaker 3: very impressive, and overall the staffing issue has not been

953
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Speaker 3: a big issue at all.

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Speaker 2: Helen Potarchy left after five months.

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Speaker 3: Why look, helenson'titled to her privacy. I've had discussions with

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Speaker 3: her and have agreed not to comment on her decision.

957
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Speaker 3: You're perfectly welcome to contact if you wish.

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Speaker 2: It just goes sort of against what you're saying people.

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Speaker 2: If she'd say, look, I'm leaving. I'd love to stay,

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Speaker 2: but I'm leaving because I've got to go find other

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Speaker 2: work after this, you know it wouldn't be. It just

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Speaker 2: seems to me that we've got issues here, and all

963
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Speaker 2: I'm interested in is why have we got issues? And

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Speaker 2: are the issues holding up the overall inquiry.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking about the current situation. The current situation

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Speaker 3: is that a couple of people have been offered very

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Speaker 3: good jobs and they're leaving for that reason. There is

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Speaker 3: no big drama within the organization, and indeed, we are

969
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Speaker 3: well on top of the task that we've been given

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Speaker 3: to do. We expect to be able to finish the

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Speaker 3: job on time, within budget, which is possibly going to

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Speaker 3: be a record for a raw commission of inquiry in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Why did Andrew Sweet leave?

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Speaker 3: Look, you can talk to Andrew. He's made a public

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Speaker 3: statement about what he wants to do again, it's not

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Speaker 3: my business to set for him. He is a delightful character.

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Speaker 3: He came in at a time when things were under

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Speaker 3: a bit of pressure. He managed to get things on

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00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: track in a way which was incredible impressive, and we

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Speaker 3: have you know, he's been a person of great value

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Speaker 3: and he's moved on to another opportunity.

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Speaker 2: See how long is this whole process in total grant

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Speaker 2: from the day you guys started to the day you finished.

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Speaker 2: Let's say you're finishing Foebury next year. How long is

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Speaker 2: this whole project?

987
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: Well, I was appointed as a commissioner in phase one

988
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Speaker 3: at the very end, so I'm in a slightly different posies.

989
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: And I understand that. But how long's faced too? How

990
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: long's you know? COVID inquiry two point zero? How long

991
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: does it last? Beginning to end?

992
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: From the beginning is twenty nine November last year end

993
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: is twenty six February. So this coming year a year

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Speaker 3: and a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of resignations for if you're taking

997
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: on a job that's only lasting a year. That's a

998
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: lot of resignations within a twelve month period, isn't it.

999
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: No, it's not not when you consider the people involved,

1000
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: the opportunity, so they have the contributions they make. It's

1001
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Speaker 3: a lot different from the inside down from the outside.

1002
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: Well, that's why we've got you on. I'm trying to

1003
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: look at it from the inside. Something's going on. And

1004
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: if you ring me up grant and go make twelve

1005
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: month job, come and help us sort COVID. I'm all

1006
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Speaker 2: in and I'm in for the twelve months because I've

1007
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Speaker 2: made a commitment. Not so we'll see how we go,

1008
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: and I might quite after five months doesn't ring true

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Speaker 2: to me?

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00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: Well, it matters not whether it rings true to you,

1011
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: it rings true to me. I'd been there all the time,

1012
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: and we haven't had a situation where things where the

1013
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: wheels are fallen off. Quite the opposite. It's started off

1014
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: with some meeting this in terms of where we were

1015
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 3: going in our timeline, because frankly, we had to learn

1016
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: as we went. But things came right very early in

1017
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: this year and have gone well ever since. It's a

1018
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: high pressure job because we'd doing a massive Inquiry within

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00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: a very short space of time. When you compare what

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Speaker 3: we're doing to what other inquiries that have done overseas,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you ever look at if you ever

1022
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Speaker 3: look at the UK inquiry, we are very small.

1023
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Speaker 2: Indeed, does it did? I take it you've looked at

1024
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: the UK Inquiry? Could you conclude something similar to what

1025
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: they've concluded, and that is that lockdowns weren't needed.

1026
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 3: They haven't concluded that.

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00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: What I read over the weekend, they seem to conclude

1028
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: that very clearly.

1029
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Speaker 3: Well, you've concluded, you've read it wrong. The situation there

1030
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 3: is Baron Baron's Hall has said that they should have

1031
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 3: acted more urgently at the beginning, much more urgently at

1032
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: the beginning. They took it very casually, and they should

1033
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Speaker 3: have established things like masks and spacing and all the.

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Speaker 13: Rest of it.

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Speaker 3: And if they had done that, it might possible have

1036
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Speaker 3: eliminated not needed. It might possibly have done that. I

1037
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Speaker 3: personally find that difficult to accept.

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Speaker 18: But when you compare, when you compare that to what

1039
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Speaker 18: happened in New Zealand, they had twenty six thousand deaths

1040
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Speaker 18: between March and April.

1041
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Speaker 19: In early twenty twenty, we had one, Yes, and over

1042
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Speaker 19: the whole of twenty twenty, our total deaths.

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Speaker 3: Attributed to COVID were twenty five. So you're just not

1044
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: talking any You're not making a sensible comparison if you

1045
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 3: try to compare what happened here with what happened.

1046
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 2: There, even though we locked down it exactly the same day,

1047
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Speaker 2: in fact, almost to the day we locked down at

1048
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: the same time we did, but.

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Speaker 3: We did so in different circumstances and for different reasons.

1050
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Speaker 3: And by the way, I'm talking out a turn because

1051
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Speaker 3: faith service not not reconsidering twenty twenty. We've got a

1052
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 3: different focus, which is twenty twenty one, when our government

1053
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: faced so very difficult decisions as Delta arrived, Auckland lockdown.

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Speaker 3: How long do you keep the lockdown going for all

1055
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 3: of these things matters that we've looked at with in

1056
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: intense detail over the past few months and or will

1057
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Speaker 3: be revealed when our report comes out the beginning of

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Speaker 3: next year.

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Speaker 2: And I appreciate your time. Grant Llingworth, KC. What do

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Speaker 2: you make of that? Seven forty five.

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Speaker 2: I found that really interesting and as it turns out,

1064
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Speaker 2: so did you. By the way, Brooklyn Belden doesn't want

1065
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Speaker 2: to talk, which I found also interesting and for no

1066
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Speaker 2: particular reason. We just rang in sending you guys no thanks,

1067
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Speaker 2: and I thought, hmm, because she's normally quite keen to talk. Well,

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Speaker 2: now we know what the COVID inquiry personal opinion is

1069
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Speaker 2: being led by. Don't we not exactly sounding unbiased? Mike?

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Speaker 2: This guy hasn't given me a good feeling about what

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Speaker 2: the outcoming of the inquiry is going to be. Mike,

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Speaker 2: this guy is the problem people resigning. I think it's

1073
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Speaker 2: going to am I being unreasonable on that when somebody

1074
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Speaker 2: rings you up, when the governor of the day rings

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Speaker 2: you up and goes, we've we've got a twelve month

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Speaker 2: deal here, we're looking into COVID. Are you win boots

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Speaker 2: and all? I mean, you're committing, aren't you? I mean

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Speaker 2: to do it for a couple of months and then

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Speaker 2: just sort of go, I've got another job. Now there's

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Speaker 2: something not quite right about or am I old fashioned?

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Speaker 2: You can imagine how this report's going to look Mike

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Speaker 2: Whitewash Mike, COVID inquiry doesn't pass the sniff test. A

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00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: simple solution, Mike suggested the gentleman of the condition of

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00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: appointment to any future inquiries to stay until the completion.

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00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: I would have thought that went without saying. But as

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00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: I say, I might be old fashioned, Mike. Maybe this

1087
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: guy's the problem. As usual, Mike, blah blah blah blah

1088
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: from this guy. Mike, the head of the inquiry seems

1089
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: incapable of saying a bad word about anybody. What an

1090
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 2: obstructive old bastard? Oh you or him? I don't know, morning, Mike.

1091
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: The problem is that guy ten minutes away from eight.

1092
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: The Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks.

1093
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 2: They'd be gone away from what cost of living? Crissis?

1094
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: How about our obsession with pets. We're now spending one

1095
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: point eight billion a year on them. That's insurance, food, grooming, daycare,

1096
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: and luxuries. New niche businesses are booming from boutique pe stores,

1097
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: are portraits, portraits, physiotherapy. Mark Betty is a founder of

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00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: Dogs In and is with us Mark Morning. Yeah, Mike,

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00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: don well, thank you? Is this new issuer of we

1100
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: always been obsessed spent big money?

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 13: No.

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00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 20: I think it comes down to the why and the

1104
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 20: why is that the bonding hormone oxi dosin. You know,

1105
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 20: we have the similar levels of oxydocin as we have

1106
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 20: between kids and ourselves, and so of course that bonds

1107
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 20: us of course of juvenilized cats and dogs, so they've

1108
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 20: come much more childlike and so you know, it's really

1109
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 20: a surrogate parent child relationship, and so that's what drives

1110
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 20: us to spend you know, about a thousand and two

1111
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 20: thousand for a dog and about a grand for a

1112
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 20: cab a year, you know, so you're talking about you

1113
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 20: know about and for a human it's more like fifteen

1114
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 20: to twenty thousand per child, so it's probably somewhat relative.

1115
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's would most of that stuff be though, once

1116
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 2: you take the food and the grooming and stuff out,

1117
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: which is necessary, it would insurance be the killer. I mean,

1118
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: there's a lot of that insurance because that's expensive.

1119
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it can be expensive.

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00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 20: Although you know when you had a friend who had

1121
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 20: a cruciate ligument operation for ten grand the other day,

1122
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 20: so probably insurance isn't stupid. So you know, in course,

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00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 20: the medical system in the animal world is not subsidized

1124
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 20: like the human one, so it costs probably more to

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00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 20: do healthcare and animals. But yeah, there's definitely a push,

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00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 20: you know for those who have the money to spend

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00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 20: on what i'd call wants rather than needs, and I'd

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00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 20: like to see them focus more on the needs and

1129
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 20: make sure they get what they need.

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00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 2: The luxuries, the luxuries that would be a city thing.

1131
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I spend part of my time

1132
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: in the country and there are no luxuries. And dogs

1133
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: in the country. I mean, they're they're working animals, and

1134
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: you know they're normally treated. As you get to the city,

1135
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: we all go nuts.

1136
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 20: Correct, Yeah, yeah, I mean, and then it's also you know,

1137
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 20: in they have a socioeconomic you need look the figures

1138
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 20: and you can see who's spending the money and those

1139
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 20: who have got the money. And but at the end

1140
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 20: of the day, you know, as I said, we do

1141
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 20: see them as their children, particularly people who don't have children,

1142
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 20: and they're they're surroh good children there.

1143
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 14: You know.

1144
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 20: It's quite easy of course to want to spend and

1145
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 20: and looking after and even spoil them. And that's okay

1146
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 20: to a degree. But yeah, you folks on the folks

1147
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 20: on the needs, right.

1148
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 2: Good advice, Yeah, exactly, good advice. Mike, nice to catch

1149
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: up make Betty, founder of Dogs in So the next

1150
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: question is do you buy your dog Christmas gift? So

1151
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: that's the next question, isn't it because it's stupid questions.

1152
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: It's stupid because the dog doesn't know it's Christmas and

1153
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 2: it's not interested in the Christmas gift.

1154
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 15: And certainly he's interested in the Christmas gift. Don't worry

1155
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 15: about it that if he's not interested, you even bought

1156
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 15: the right gift.

1157
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 9: Do you?

1158
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 2: I reckon? So you so obviously you've given yourself away

1159
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: with your cockadoodle do and so you buy it.

1160
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 15: Also, Yeah, I know, I completely disagree about It's on

1161
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 15: the same level as your kids.

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00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 9: I like my dog.

1163
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: Way more than the kids.

1164
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 21: Yeah, agree, the whole different league.

1165
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they fit in completely differently. So do you do

1166
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: you wish your dog a happy birthday? And we did

1167
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: this the other day, wish our dog a happy birthday,

1168
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: and they just look at you the same way they

1169
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: look at you. I could be going poos and they

1170
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: look at you the same way as if you say

1171
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: have a birthday, don't they there's no different yet you're

1172
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: doing that and then you buy them a Christmas gift

1173
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: and you're surprised. They don't want to unwrap it. They'll

1174
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: sniff around it, and if it's something to eat, they'll

1175
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: eat it, and if it's nothing to eat, they won't.

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Speaker 2: It's how dogs work, Mike. That case has no time

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00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: for stupid questions and incorrect comments, does he. That's where

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00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: the interview got a bit pointy, didn't it, Mike. He

1179
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: sounds like he's already made a decision obviously wants to

1180
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: influence the people employed in the inquiry. I got that.

1181
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I won't go down the second part of

1182
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: that statement you make, but I get the impression that

1183
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: he's already sorted out what's going on. And I don't

1184
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: think we need the rest of November or December or January.

1185
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: But you know, who knows it just had that vibe

1186
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: about it. The interview confirmed you're a bit of a twat, Mike.

1187
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: Thanks very much. Now, Tom Bewley, we had him on

1188
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 2: the program before and he's had a great season behind

1189
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 2: the behind the wheel of the Porsche and he's done

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00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: well in Australia and next step we can reveal exclusively

1191
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: this morning he's gone to one A scholarship, so he's

1192
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: in the career series here he'll explain all of this.

1193
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: But if you watch the supercars, you'll often see the

1194
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: Porsches racing around. That's where he's going to be next.

1195
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: So that's the next step up the old motor racing ladder.

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00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 2: And so a good catch up with Tom Buley and

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00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: a couple of months after the news here on the

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00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: Mike Oleskiing.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast

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00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real estate doing real estate differently since nineteen

1201
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: seventy three News togsad B.

1202
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: It is seven minutes past eight. Timeoud to catch up

1203
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: with Tom Buley. He's been competing this year in the

1204
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: Porsche GG three Sprint Challenge Series in Australia, finished third

1205
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: with four wins and a couple of lap records. Next

1206
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: step he has won. We reveal this, I think exclusively

1207
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: this morning. He has won the Porsche Scholarship to take

1208
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: the next step and compete in the Career Cup next year.

1209
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: And Tom Buley is, well, it's very the morning. Nice

1210
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: to catch up with you.

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Speaker 21: Good morning, how are you very well?

1212
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: Indeed? Take me through this past season. Have you enjoyed

1213
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: it hasn't been successful? Did you live your dream.

1214
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 21: Yeah, definitely always living the dream racing and definitely across

1215
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 21: Australia for the first time. It was an up and

1216
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 21: down yere definitely. It was my goal going into the

1217
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 21: year was just to learn how to drive that style

1218
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 21: of car because there's something completely different to what I've

1219
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 21: been used to, so just kind of get up to

1220
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 21: speed and I feel like I did that pretty quick,

1221
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 21: but just some rough patches during the season kind of

1222
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 21: cost me those championship points and I just couldn't get

1223
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 21: it back by the end of the season. But yeah, overall,

1224
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 21: I think I was pretty happy with the season. I

1225
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 21: made some good games with myself driving and on track

1226
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 21: and off track.

1227
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 2: So overall, given you've been racing pretty much your whole life,

1228
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: you start and catch, you go to the Toyota eighty

1229
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: six ers and stuff, what is it as a driver

1230
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: you are still learning? Is it just the car or

1231
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: is it racecraft as well?

1232
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 21: I think you're always learning racecraft because you're always racing

1233
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 21: new people and that's going to be a big thing

1234
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 21: for me next year and even this year just moving

1235
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 21: up in New Zealand is such a small country, so

1236
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 21: you're always racing the same people through to carts cars.

1237
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 21: When I went to Australia, there was a whole lot

1238
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 21: of new people and that's going to be the same

1239
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 21: next year with people that I've never raced before. So

1240
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 21: just learning how they race and adjusting to that, and yeah,

1241
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 21: I think that's a big part. And also off track

1242
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 21: you learn how to talk better like these and yeah,

1243
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 21: just get used to different things, and obviously always learning

1244
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 21: about new cars because every car you're go into there's

1245
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 21: obviously a lower adjustment.

1246
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: Is there a change in the car for next year

1247
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: than you've had this year?

1248
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 21: Yeah, so they've actually gone back to ABS for next

1249
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 21: year in the new cars all around the world. Yeah, yeah,

1250
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 21: so anti lock break system, So yeah, that's gonna definitely

1251
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 21: make the field closer, might be a bit harder to pass,

1252
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 21: but yeah, I've had a little bit of experience with

1253
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 21: it in Shired eighty six. But yeah, so during a

1254
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 21: whole year of learning no abs and a car and

1255
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 21: then going back to it, so I mean pretty.

1256
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: You're gonna be overly reliant in the sense when you've

1257
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: got no ABS, you've got to work the pedal in

1258
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: a way that you're not gonna lock up, whereas abs

1259
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: will help you out with that, won't it. Yeah, do

1260
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 2: you think you've become overly reliant on that then and

1261
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 2: just slam it on?

1262
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 21: Yeah, definitely. I think this year driving no abs will

1263
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 21: definitely help me for next year. Even though you've got abs,

1264
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 21: you still try drive and keep that break shape the same.

1265
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 21: It really you know, helps breaking for performance and obviously

1266
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 21: the cart in turn. So yeah, it's gonna be hard

1267
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 21: going back and like learning a whole new thing this

1268
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 21: year and then changing it all the way back, but

1269
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 21: it's definitely gonna be call experience going back into it,

1270
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 21: and then everyone's in the same playing field next year,

1271
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 21: so everyone's in that new speck with the breaks, So yeah,

1272
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 21: it's gonna be gifting back at.

1273
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: The scholarship you've got. What's it mean to you?

1274
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 21: Yeah, it's pretty incredible. And with that being with the

1275
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 21: Elbama Mosport and team Portion's ellm it's the incredible experience.

1276
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 21: So being back with him for another year, really honored

1277
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 21: to be with him obviously, and with you know, kind

1278
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 21: of following his path through He's doing some amazing things

1279
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 21: and am Zone would Endurance Challenge and stuff. So yeah,

1280
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 21: trying to go where he his path went, and obviously

1281
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 21: he's doing some amazing things.

1282
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's and apart from anything, and he's a

1283
01:02:58,760 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: hell of a nice guy.

1284
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,959
Speaker 21: Yeah, he's an awsome guy. And he's just one phone

1285
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 21: call away as well, So it's just easy to go

1286
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 21: on the phone if I'm struggling with something and need

1287
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 21: to need him to help out. He's always just a

1288
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:09,479
Speaker 21: phone call away.

1289
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 2: So the interesting thing about motorsport you'd understand that better

1290
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: than most people, is there is actually just we all

1291
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 2: think about if one at the moment because of Liam

1292
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 2: or the supercars over you know, so that's it. But

1293
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: there's a world of motorsport out there, with a world

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Speaker 2: of different cars and opportunities and competitions and stuff. Isn't

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Speaker 2: there if you want it?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, definitely, there's there's a whole lot of different paths

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Speaker 21: and you know, there's people going down the open well

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Speaker 21: kind of way through Indy Car or F one, and

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Speaker 21: then there's obviously supercars. But I'm trying to go to

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Speaker 21: Europe and race and sports cars like the World Endurance

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Speaker 21: Championship or MZA and stuff like that. Like what Earl

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Speaker 21: was doing. Why I know, I just I just like

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Speaker 21: being different, I guess, But no, I think Supercars. I

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Speaker 21: grew up watching. I loved it and so did f one.

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Speaker 21: But I don't think if one was a path of me.

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Speaker 21: I think I like, you know, having those doors and

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01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 21: you know, getting a bit aggressive with it like they

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Speaker 21: do in supercars, but then just having that next steven.

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Speaker 21: My goal is to be a Porsche factory driver in

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Speaker 21: the world, So.

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Speaker 2: You would you would jump supercars in that sense if

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01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: the opportunity camp. So you like to go from Porsche

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01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 2: to Porsche basically, yes, definitely. Really what is it about

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01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: something about the Porsche? It's that kind of car.

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Speaker 21: I just think I'm always just like endurance racing and

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Speaker 21: racing around the world. It's just a whole different style

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Speaker 21: to it supercars. It's pretty awesome. But yeah, I just

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Speaker 21: want to try and make that next step. I think

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Speaker 21: supercars is at at the top for Australia, but I

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Speaker 21: want to be at the top for Europe.

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Speaker 8: On you.

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Speaker 2: So, the endurance thing is that like running. You know,

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Speaker 2: some people sprint and some people want to run ten thousand,

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01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: some people want to do a marathon. So there's a

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Speaker 2: skill associated with being fast over a long period of time.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, endurance racing is not all about being fast. Obviously

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01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 21: you've got some sometimes three or four other drivers in

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01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 21: the car seeing the car with you. So it's not

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01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 21: all about being fast, it's just about being consistent, saving fuel,

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01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 21: saving tires so we've got the best chance at the

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01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 21: end of the race.

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Speaker 2: So it's what Hartley does, of course, Yes, at the

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Speaker 2: highest level.

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01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 21: Yeah, exactly. So it's a whole different style of racing,

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01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 21: and obviously you've got to rely on teammates, which is

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01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 21: sometimes hard. But yeah, obviously it's saying to learn and

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01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 21: hopefully you get to learn how to do that.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Take a brief break more from Tom Buley in

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01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: just a couple of moments thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 16: It be.

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Speaker 2: News Talks. It'll be sixteen past. Tom Buley's with us.

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01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: He's got the Push scholarship for next year. He's back

1345
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: in the career a Cup. If you follow the Supercars,

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01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: that's all part of that program that you'll see on

1347
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 2: any given weekend. Something I read about you that was interesting,

1348
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: see if you can explain it to me. So when

1349
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 2: you started in karting, you weren't doing that well you

1350
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: were just a kid in the cart and you're going

1351
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: run around around. Then you say something happened, something clicked,

1352
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 2: and you started overtaking and winning. What do you reckon

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01:05:59,000 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: that is?

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01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 21: I wasn't too sure. I was the kid driving around

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01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 21: the back, waving it everyone as weren't passed and just

1356
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 21: having fun. Mum and dad didn't really care, you know.

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01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 21: I was just having fun, that was the whole point

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01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 21: of it. And at the time I was racing Louie

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01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 21: Sharp and Louis was always very competitive and I think

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Speaker 21: one race I was probably racing him and then he

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01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 21: was passing people and I was kind of following through

1362
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 21: and I passed a couple of people and I think

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Speaker 21: that's when it clicked. So it was yeah, quite early on,

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01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 21: and then from there on men Louis, that's you know,

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Speaker 21: still good mates. And we raced all the way through

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01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 21: until about juniors.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, there was always He's doing well too.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, he's doing awesome and it's pretty exciting for him

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Speaker 21: this year as well.

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Speaker 2: How do you balance up you talk about all these

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01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 2: guys in New Zealand does so well, how do you

1372
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: balance up the I want you to do well, but

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01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: I also want to beat you, you know what I mean,

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01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 2: So it doesn't become so competitive you lose a friendship.

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01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 21: Yeah, definitely. It was tough during carts. I think as

1376
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 21: we got older we understood more how much we wanted

1377
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 21: to win. It's not so bad now. You know, I'm

1378
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 21: supporting him. He's doing his thing and we're doing two

1379
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 21: completely different paths. So yeah, he's very awesome and you

1380
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 21: know we're seeing contact.

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01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, because the first race you will face

1382
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: as part of your new Porsche deal is in the

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01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 2: new year in March in Melbourne at Albert Park, so

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01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 2: you'll be there alongside you know, the supercar guys and

1385
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 2: of course the F one guys as well, so you'll

1386
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 2: be in like that's the center of the world for motorsport.

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01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that's got to be something that I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's a dream come true.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, definitely. It's gonna be a lot of pressure for

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01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 21: the first race. Obviously, at a street circuit like that,

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01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 21: you can't do any testing, and that's going to be

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Speaker 21: like the rest of the season season as well. Not

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01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 21: much testing you can do is most of the tracks

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Speaker 21: of street circuits, So yeah, it's gonna be pretty exciting

1395
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 21: being in front of the if one pretty fall on

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01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 21: first round, but yeah, no, looking forward to it and

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01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 21: getting in front of in front of those guys and

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Speaker 21: the supercars people as well.

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Speaker 2: For the first time you talk about Scott McLaughlin and

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Speaker 2: that scholarship and stuff. Those guys helpful in terms. Are

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01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 2: they nice guys and are looking to help you out?

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01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 21: Yeah, they're awesome guys. It's a lot harder with Scottie

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01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 21: at the moment, obviously he's doing his thing in IndyCar.

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01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 21: It was a lot easier once well when he was

1405
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 21: back in Australia and still racing supercars. But yeah, now

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01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 21: that he's in Australia, I mean sorry the US, it's

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01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 21: a bit harder to you know, keep in contact and

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01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 21: try get that support from him. But yeah, obviously still

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01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 21: staying contact and if he's ever back in Australia then

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Speaker 21: we'll definitely had him up.

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01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 2: What's your trajectory do you think so you'll do this

1412
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 2: for a season two season? What do you reckon? How

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01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: do you reckon that's going to pan out and then

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01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: on to what.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it depends how the season goes. Obviously, hopefully we

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01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 21: can finish up the front in the first season, but

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01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 21: for everyone sees it's a learning year, your first year,

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01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 21: just like eighty six as was for me. So you

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01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 21: have a real crack in your second gear. But if

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Speaker 21: we make it work in the first year, that's always

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01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 21: always pretty good. And hopefully during this year we'll search

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01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 21: out for drives in Europe and GT just for some

1423
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 21: tests and stuff. So get my name out there, and yeah,

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01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 21: try get over there and meet some people.

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01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 2: Fantastic, super so, so thrilled for you, absolutely filled for you.

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01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: I hope it goes. You've got the summer off in

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01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 2: that sense, so you take it easy. How easy is

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01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 2: to get back out of the car and into the

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01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 2: car if you've had a decent gap.

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01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 21: Yeah, I find that. I found that quite hard this year.

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01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 21: There was quite a big gap between a couple of

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01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 21: the round So just keeping on the sim mostly and

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01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 21: just learn those tracks and just keeping fit and stuff

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01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 21: and looking at Hates the video, which is what I did.

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01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 21: You know, just keeps you in the right mindset and

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 21: keeps you kind of locked in so when you go

1437
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 21: into that next race meeting, you know what you're doing.

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01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 12: Well.

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01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: We wish you all the best, good to see you again.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Very much, nice mate, Tom Buley.

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Speaker 2: do all the Q motorsport guys just sound likes? Well,

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Speaker 2: that's mainly because they are top blocks from the ComCom.

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Speaker 2: This morning, the Commerce commissioned Mobile New Zealand's in trouble.

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Speaker 2: They're in trouble pricing methods that it believes breach the

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Speaker 2: able to see and question the rates that mobile is

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Speaker 2: charging them. What they're saying there is independent. It's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's slightly nuanced, but it is

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Speaker 2: interesting that when you go to a mobile the person

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Speaker 2: may be an independent operator. You go, oh, no, they're

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Speaker 2: but under the brand of mobile. So if you're an

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Speaker 2: independent who happens to be a mobile dealer, can you

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Speaker 2: ring Mobile head office and go how do you price that?

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Speaker 2: The ComCom argues they're not going to tell you or

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Speaker 2: the methodology not transparent. Hence we need to hit to court.

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Speaker 2: Two sorts. This out maximum penalty under the actors five

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Speaker 2: million dollars per breach, and they're alleging two breaches.

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Speaker 21: So we'll be.

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Speaker 2: Interested to see where that particular one goes. Mike sent

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Speaker 2: a birthday card by overnight courier from Wanaka Wanaka to

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Speaker 7: Some of us.

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Speaker 2: I won't once again mention any name. Some of us

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Speaker 2: bring in a tremendous amount of product from different parts

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Speaker 2: of the world, and you get the word that it's

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Speaker 15: Is this the Prime Minister's Christmas present?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not, but it is. I mean, from from

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Speaker 2: personal experience, it's it's stuff at home. But you know,

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Speaker 2: so it depends on what's a company. But out the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister's Christmas present when he said to me, giddy

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Speaker 2: up in that really cool way he says things, I

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01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 2: didn't tell him what I had for him, but what

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01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 2: I got for him is next. LEV don't want to

1514
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 2: oversell it. But ever it turns out, if it turns up,

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Speaker 2: if it turns up.

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Speaker 1: Opinionated, informed, und apologetic, the mic asking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 1: Life your Way, News Talks head been.

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Speaker 2: Having told you yesterday that the summer box offen the

1519
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 2: summer box office in America has been a complete bust

1520
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 2: and people don't go to the movies anymore. The outlier

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01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 2: appears to be Wicked for good one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: million domestic opening weekend. It's that time of year, of course,

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Speaker 2: because of Thanksgiving. One hundred and fifty million domestic opening

1524
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: If you add into it's amazing, really when you look

1525
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Speaker 2: at the American domestic box office and the whole rest

1526
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Speaker 2: of the world. So one fifty million for the opening

1527
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Speaker 2: weekend in America domestically. Add the entire planet on top

1528
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 2: of the one fifty you come to two twenty six. So,

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Speaker 2: in other words, the world doesn't really count. Second highest

1530
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Speaker 2: opening of a film released this entire year, the winner

1531
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 2: was Minecraft at one hundred and sixty three Mini twenty

1532
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Speaker 2: three to nine.

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with ends in eye insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand is no good mate, little morning.

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Speaker 17: How are you good, Molding, I'm fine, mate. How are

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Speaker 17: you well?

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Speaker 2: I'm very well? And do we played a little clip

1538
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 2: from Kostama earlier on and in his eloquent way what

1539
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 2: he explained that he had organized a zoom I think

1540
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 2: it's a zoom with Macron tomorrow as part of this

1541
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 2: peace plan. Is he actually involved in this at all?

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Speaker 2: Or is this sort of a Rubio Trump Zelenski type deal.

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Speaker 17: Well, it's it's the latter as you put it. Sure,

1544
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 17: but he has played a peripheral role, as is Europe,

1545
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 17: of course, and you have to say that you're role

1546
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 17: is peripheral all of it, because one suspects that what

1547
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 17: happens will be whatever goes down between Celenski, Trump and Putin.

1548
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 17: There is massive pushback to the twenty eight point plan

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01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 17: that the Trump drew up or Putin drew up. Who

1550
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 17: used to believe from European leaders, the Germans but especially

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01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 17: the Scandinavians, the Baltic States and Soul particularly on the issue.

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Speaker 17: And this is the one which Starma is worried about,

1553
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 17: which is kind of granting Putin legal status overland which

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01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 17: you stole, which you can understand as being problematic. Whether

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01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 17: in the end Macron, Starma and anyone else in Europe,

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Speaker 17: with the possible exception of Maloney, who Trump seems to

1557
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 17: have a soft spot for perfectly understandable reasons. Whether they

1558
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 17: have any sway whatsoever in the final analysis is another matter.

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Speaker 17: It seems to me highly unlikely.

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Speaker 2: Right, so we stand by and wait. I guess as

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Speaker 2: far as the BBC is concerned today, that seemed to

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01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 2: start late in the day. It was sort of about

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Speaker 2: four thirty five o'clock this afternoon your time.

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Speaker 17: They only stopped half an hour ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so late afternoon. That would have that would

1566
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 2: have interfeed with drinks. I would have thought, how did

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Speaker 2: it go? Generally, it seems to be.

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Speaker 17: That the BBC is still in a remarkable state of

1569
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 17: self denial, all of them, a lot of them. It's

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Speaker 17: remarkable they're still saying no institutional bias. We thought Panorama

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01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 17: got it wrong, but we argued over how badly they

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01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 17: got it wrong. That's been the general kind of corporate view.

1573
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 17: Samir Shah's come under attacks and PEBLEC chairman, he's come

1574
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 17: under attack for having let it happen, for not having

1575
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 17: reacted earlier. All this did come out apparently in May,

1576
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 17: and they should probably have apologized then, but as ever

1577
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 17: with the BBC, they just kept a lid on it,

1578
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 17: and they have admitted that they need to be quicker

1579
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 17: to react when criticized and to and to fess up

1580
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 17: when they get it wrong. It's also been suggested and

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Speaker 17: that there might be another board appointed at some point,

1582
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 17: and also a deputy director General to take some of

1583
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 17: the strain off Tim Davey, But I don't know how

1584
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 17: much truth there is in that. That's just a rumor

1585
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 17: which is emanated. But you know, there was very little

1586
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 17: that we learned from them today which made you think, oh,

1587
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 17: well we've got it wrong. You know, if only we

1588
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 17: haven't thought this. You know, it was more of the

1589
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 17: same denial, denial, denial.

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Speaker 2: So what's the point, I mean, what are the MP's

1591
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 2: going to do with anything, apart from going well that's

1592
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 2: not good enough and don't do it again.

1593
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Speaker 17: Well, the MPs themselves of course have access to grind

1594
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 17: and it is partly a partly partly political issue. So

1595
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 17: you have Ruper Huck from the Labor Party continually pressing

1596
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 17: the point that you know that the BBC was being

1597
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 17: bullied by right wingers and that it wasn't remotely biased,

1598
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 17: whereas you had Carolin Downage pressing the point that well

1599
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 17: it has been biased and it's done this, this and this.

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Speaker 7: So for the.

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Speaker 17: Politicians, it's also a big debating issue. None of it

1602
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,560
Speaker 17: helps the BBC get to the bottom of how it

1603
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 17: should reform itself and how it should appeal to the

1604
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 17: sort of voters it used to appeal to, which was

1605
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 17: a broad cross section of the population.

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01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 2: Hey, just while we're on the media quickly, this daily

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01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,560
Speaker 2: male slash general trust bid for the Telegraph is that

1608
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 2: like big news in Britain, the people exercised were interested

1609
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 2: in that at all or not?

1610
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 7: Really?

1611
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 17: Yeah they are, Well, the Telegraph's very interested in the males,

1612
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 17: very interested. Everyone else saw all the other papers for

1613
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,719
Speaker 17: commercial reasons are keeping their gobstup apart from the Guardian.

1614
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 17: Of course, this is a few problems. But given that

1615
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 17: you know, Murdock owns the Sunday Times, the Times, the Sun,

1616
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 17: the competition stuff isn't really a problem. I know that

1617
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:18,799
Speaker 17: Telegraph journalists don't particularly want this, but you know, beggars

1618
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 17: can't be choosing exactly.

1619
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 2: But if it goes to me because I can't remember

1620
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 2: the name of the American company was Red Bird or

1621
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: something like that. Anyway, if it goes ahead, it's a

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Speaker 2: pretty big deal on Fleet Street in terms of ownership, isn't.

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Speaker 17: It It is? And it guarantees jobs for a long

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Speaker 17: time at the Telegraph, or at least some of them,

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01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 17: most of them. So no, it is a very very

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01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 17: big deal indeed, and the Telegraph has been anguishing for

1627
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 17: you know, two years effectively not knowing who its owners

1628
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 17: are going to be with problems over the Barkley Brothers

1629
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 17: from three or four years ago, so this would give

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01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 17: them a former closure. It's just not the closure they

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Speaker 17: had hoped for.

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Speaker 2: Next time we hawk, Roderick, I can't tell you how

1633
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: excited you know. Just next time we talk, she'll have

1634
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 2: done her worst. And I'm reading this morning she's going

1635
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 2: to be revaluing millions of homes. There's a mentioned text coming,

1636
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 2: do we what's.

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Speaker 7: The diging to.

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Speaker 17: Pin the tale of the Donkey. No one's got the

1639
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 17: slightest clue what she's going to do, least of all,

1640
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 17: I suspect Rachel Reeves. No one knows what's going to happen.

1641
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Speaker 17: I suspect. I mean this budget is crucial for obvious reasons. First,

1642
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,560
Speaker 17: the British colony, which isn't going to be improved by it.

1643
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 17: I mean we can be pretty clear about that already. Second,

1644
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 17: it's important as to how it goes down both with

1645
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 17: the bomb markets, with the labor backbenchers, with the public.

1646
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 17: For the future of Rachel Reeves, and it's split about

1647
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,560
Speaker 17: fifty to fifty is to where she can survive.

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Speaker 2: At the moment, all right, mate, we'll look forward to

1649
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,759
Speaker 2: the look forward to checking to your Thursday, so budget

1650
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Speaker 2: day on Wednesday night in New Zealand. Time just to

1651
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 2: give you a flavor of how much trouble they're in

1652
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 2: for October, they overspent by seventeen point four billion pounds

1653
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 2: just for October. For the financial year, they've overspent by

1654
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixteen point eight billion pounds, which was

1655
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 2: nine billion pounds more than they did the previous year

1656
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: when they overspent by one hundred one one hundred and

1657
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 2: sixteen minus nine whatever that is. So you can see

1658
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 2: that they're going nowhere fast. The revaluation is all part

1659
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 2: of this tax. In other words, if you've got a

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Speaker 2: flash house and we'll revalue it, we can tax you

1661
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: more and band FG and H properties if you've got

1662
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 2: a flash home that's worth more than two million dollars.

1663
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 2: So that's mainly in London. Of course they'll they'll ping

1664
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,719
Speaker 2: you for the mansion tax. And then meantime this morning

1665
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: numbers out overnight that loder middle income families in Britain,

1666
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 2: which is up to sixty percent of households, and all

1667
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,759
Speaker 2: of England or all of Great Britain, they're going backwards.

1668
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 2: The disposable income falls for the fourth month in a row,

1669
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 2: so you can see that she's got a massive hill

1670
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 2: to climb. Eight forty five The.

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Speaker 1: High Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By

1672
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Speaker 1: News talks at be.

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Speaker 2: Several things. Pauline Hanson in a burker in the Senate.

1674
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen the video, watch it funny. Don't know.

1675
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: Penny Wong didn't think it was funny. Penny Wong went apoplectic.

1676
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: But then Penny Wong doesn't have a sense of humor,

1677
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: but she I'm laughing at as funny. She turned up

1678
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Speaker 2: and it's racist. Yes it's racist, but it is Pauline Hanson,

1679
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: and she's on a bit of a roll at the moment.

1680
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Speaker 2: So that happened in the Senate. Mike, I wonder what

1681
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 2: Jeremy Clarkson thinks about the allegations of the BBC left

1682
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 2: wing bars actually worked out very well from him, Yes

1683
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Speaker 2: it did. Steven just reminds me to remind you. Andy

1684
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 2: Wilman's doing the rounds on podcasts. Not many a couple

1685
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: of them floating about the place. He's ponderous, interesting bloke

1686
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,839
Speaker 2: to listen to. He sounds very very like Jeremy Clarkson

1687
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Speaker 2: when he talks. They could be if you'd had two

1688
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 2: beers and I sat you down in a corner, I said,

1689
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to play you a voice. Who's this? You'd

1690
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 2: probably go Jeremy Clarkson, but it's not. It's Andy Willman.

1691
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Speaker 2: He was the briduceer of top Gear and a Grand

1692
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 2: Tour all those years. He tells some wonderful stories and

1693
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 2: the BBC, of course, is mentioned in that.

1694
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Speaker 9: Mike.

1695
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 2: We have narrowed the forecast milk price range from nine

1696
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Speaker 2: to eleven down to nine to ten, reduced the midpoint

1697
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Speaker 2: from ten down to nine fifty. So they didn't tell

1698
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 2: us when they texted that through who that was. It

1699
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: was just some random in an office going, I'll tell

1700
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 2: you what the first thing I did this morning for

1701
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 2: a went and got coffee, Mike, was I hidjusted the

1702
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 2: milk price. You can't do that unless your Fontira. As

1703
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 2: it turns out, we went looking at it as Fontira,

1704
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 2: so Fontira were texting us and for that we thank you.

1705
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Speaker 2: And none of this is good news. Of course, they've

1706
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Speaker 2: increased the milk collections. For the twenty five to twenty

1707
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 2: six season, they had one point five two five million

1708
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 2: kilos to one point five four to five piece. I

1709
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 2: read the other day internationally. The quote was the taps

1710
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: are turned on full, so all over at the world

1711
01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 2: at the moment's supply is gushing and they didn't see

1712
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 2: any reason for alarm this international report I read, they said,

1713
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 2: this is just market reacting. I mean, for so long

1714
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,799
Speaker 2: the supply has been a problem, so they've just increased supply.

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Speaker 2: And as they increased supply, of course the price comes down.

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Speaker 2: So what Fontier have done. We've had seven consecutive price

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Speaker 2: drops at the Dairy Trade auction, so the price has

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Speaker 2: come down. So the important point, the midpoint has gone

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Speaker 2: from ten down to nine to fifty, so still elevated

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Speaker 2: historically speaking, but nine fifty eight ten, nine to nine the.

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Speaker 1: My costing breakfast with the defender and use togs dead b.

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Speaker 2: too long, might be a bit painful to reach the

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand initiative of this Morning that you might

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01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 2: want to get your eyeballs on a lot. They looked

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01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: at University marking or University scores. Eight universities in the

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01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 2: country between two thousand and six twenty twenty fourty Do

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01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 2: you know what they found? They found that there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of a's being handed out, an increasing number of

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01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 2: a's this year, A was the most common grade at

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Speaker 2: New Zealand University. Is not going to be long twenty

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Speaker 2: two two percent of all grades back in twenty six,

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01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 2: twenty two percent. Then it got to thirty six percent

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01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 2: by twenty twenty four, and that's an increase of sixty

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Speaker 2: four percent. Are people brighter, No, they're not. Other teachers better,

1755
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Speaker 2: they conclude, No, they're not. Has there been mass reform

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01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 2: and people go, oh my god, No, none of that.

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Speaker 2: It's just they think it's bums on seats. If you

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Speaker 2: don't give people good marks, they're not going to come back.

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Speaker 2: So you get an a read the report. See what

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Speaker 2: you think five to nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Warehouse Black Friday sale.

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Speaker 2: Oh now, Christiana Ronaldo has been back with Piers Morgan.

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01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,560
Speaker 2: Peters Morgan did him a couple of years ago. This

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01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 2: is obviously a part two type chit chat. They talked

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01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 2: about playing in Saudi Arabia, which must be mind numbingly boring.

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Speaker 2: They talked about him and messy the world couple that

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01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 2: stuff anyway. Next question was who's better looking him or

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Speaker 2: David Beckham?

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Speaker 17: Do you think you're better look him than David Beckham?

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Speaker 7: Depend?

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Speaker 4: Because for me, the looking is not only the face.

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01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 4: If you put me not any more, imagine Christiano. Yeah,

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01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 4: not Christiano, a normal guy with the speedos, red speedos

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01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 4: in a copacabana to drink coconut water.

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Speaker 7: So cal on you went, Beckham? You walking across the

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Speaker 7: copa cabana for say ten minutes? Who gets the most

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01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 7: of the not famous not famous? Just to body me?

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01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 7: You know? His phase is beautiful, Yeah, and some face.

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01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 7: The rest is normal, Like he's normal. I'm not normal.

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Speaker 1: I'm perfecto.

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01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,719
Speaker 2: He's brilliant. I love him. Who's more famous?

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01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 9: Him?

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01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 2: Or Trump?

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01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 4: Who's the most famous or oral president Nald Trump in

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Speaker 4: the world?

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Speaker 7: What do you think me really.

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01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 2: Even in that small eyesland, and they're know me more

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Speaker 2: than him?

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Speaker 13: Really?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think that's true. But good on him.

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Speaker 2: Is that out somewhere that will be on the podcast,

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01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 2: that will be on the He's quite into town. He's

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01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 2: quite go both of them. Actually. I like Peters Morgan,

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01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: I like Christiana r now So there you go. That

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Speaker 2: is asked for the day back tomorrow morning from six o'clock.

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01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: Remember the Ginny questions coming tomorrow. Remember I raised that

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Speaker 2: yesterday at the Bigger Wards in the Hut over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Did she reach across a Nick Chris Bishop's meal Hi

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Speaker 2: answer tomorrow morning after six flowers

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