1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Heller dup See Allen, the mother of the missing Mart 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Corporate children, has broken her silence for a second time 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: this week, sharing a letter on social media that she 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: says was written to her by the father, Tom Phillips. Now, 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: she says the letter, which professes his love for her, 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: shows quote that all is not as it seems now. 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Karen Rutherford is a Newshart reporter who's been closely following 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: this story and is with us. Now, Hey, Karen, hi, Heather, 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: do any idea why this woman's made this public. 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: Look, this is a private letter between two people, and 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: it is interesting timing. On Tuesday night, obviously, the police 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: issued a video of cats speaking and pleading with the 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: public of New Zealand to help, and then she releases 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: a letter which she says is from the children's father, 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: Tom Phillips. Now, I have spoken to police. They don't 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: believe this is a recent letter and they also don't 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: feel it is relevant to the current investigation. This is 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: in the past. It's a custody issue between two people 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: and that's it all started out. Sadly, it's become a 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: very public case here there, obviously because Tom Phillips is 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: accused of criminal and intent with the alleged bank robbery 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: of antiquity A and Z as well as the pups sucreer, 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: and he's also allegedly holding these children back from health 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: care and education. So that's you know, we're also taxpayers 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: and we're spending a lot of money on a massive 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: man hunt, so it becomes a matter of public interests. 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: But potentially this is a private matter, and this is 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: a woman who's choosing to share her dirty laundry. 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: I suppose why did she lose custody of the kids? 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: Look, there are issues on both sides, and I'm not 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: really able to go into that. We've chosen as a 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: news have not to go into the background because, as 33 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 2: I say, it is a private family thing. It only 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: becomes relevant when you know, search and rescue operations involve 35 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: people from all over the North Island, and criminal intent 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: becomes involved. So let's just say she had no custody, 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: but Tom lost his custody when he took the children 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: for a second time. So faults on both sides. It's 39 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: about no one's squeaky clean here. 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: No, No, I can I get that impression. There are 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: about five days or something like that to get information 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: through to the cops. Do you think the cops do 43 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: you get the impression that they're closing in on him. 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: They made their strongest comment yet on Friday to us 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: in our story where they are detectives acting detectments meant 46 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: that Andy Saulders said, Look, you know, we are working 47 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: with the family on both sides, but there are wider 48 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: family and associates who are not forthright in their information. 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: And that was the strongest indication yet that they have 50 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: a net. They know who they're looking for, and they 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: know who they're targeting with this eighty thousand dollars award. 52 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: They are hoping that someone in that wider circle will cave, 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: and they know exactly who those people are. So yes, 54 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: I believe the net is closing. Whether or not they 55 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: will have success before the five days runs out, they 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: may well find this the reward closes off and they 57 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: still haven't got what they need, but they will have 58 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: information in hand. 59 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: Karen, thank you so much. I really appreciate your time. 60 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: Karen Rutherford, News Hub Reporter. 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