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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at Me.

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Speaker 2: Climb Pass is our man in the garden.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, sir, A very good morning to you, Dr Jack.

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Speaker 3: Did you know that that whole reagun and stuff like that?

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Speaker 3: You know, I've just done that because I've been pruning

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Speaker 3: all the the black currants and the and the gooseberry bushes.

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Speaker 2: What you been doing? Those contortions, you've been doing the kangaroo,

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Speaker 2: the root plass climb pass kangaroo.

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Speaker 3: I knew. I knew you'd get into that because if

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Speaker 3: anybody asked me do you like breakdancing? I always point

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Speaker 3: out that I used to have rheumatoid arthritis and now

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Speaker 3: have OSTIOI writers I sit there going like, well they're

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Speaker 3: the cheapest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not my gig.

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Speaker 3: I'm tennis. So but anyway, that's not a story. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So is that timing year right? You need to start

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Speaker 2: pruning your beer?

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Speaker 3: Yes? It is, yeah, and it was. Actually I've got

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Speaker 3: a really good old Scottish make Mike, Mike Waterston is

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Speaker 3: his name. He's my builder, but he's also good friend,

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Speaker 3: and he says, can you can you please tell me

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Speaker 3: to prune my black currants because I haven't done it

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Speaker 3: for a few years. I said, oh God, here we go.

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Speaker 3: He not only has black currants, he's got red currants

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Speaker 3: and gooseberries as well. And gooseberries are real buggers because

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Speaker 3: they're prickly as hecky. But anyway, so I took some

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Speaker 3: photos in the garden, and I think Libya will have

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Speaker 3: put them on the interwebby of what it looked like

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Speaker 3: before we actually had a go a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 3: and what it looks like now. And it's very, very simple.

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Speaker 3: These black currants. I love them because Julie makes the

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Speaker 3: most amazing jem out of them. So I don't eat

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Speaker 3: the berries themselves, but the gem is just anyway easy.

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Speaker 3: Every year, you do it if you can. I'm not

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Speaker 3: doing it every year because I don't always have the time.

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Speaker 3: But they are basically a multi stemmed plant, so they

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Speaker 3: come from basically the base where the roots are, and

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Speaker 3: then all these stems go up. If you get more

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Speaker 3: than six to ten stems, you really need to prune

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Speaker 3: them out so it becomes a bit spacious in the middle.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about it a lot with plants, yea, because

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Speaker 3: you know, if you've got very dense plants, you get

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Speaker 3: a lot of moisture, and then you get fungi and

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Speaker 3: bacteria and all that. So this can so keep it

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Speaker 3: a bit open. Secondly, go down to about or maybe

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Speaker 3: four feet high if you like. Okay, And and basically

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Speaker 3: the new plants will grow below where it's cut. Of course,

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Speaker 3: in the new and the new the new offsets that

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Speaker 3: are coming down. So that's basically the simple way to

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Speaker 3: do it. So that goes for the black currants, right,

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Speaker 3: and it goes for the red currents as well, goosberries.

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Speaker 3: As I said, prickly gloves, care for all that sort

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Speaker 3: of stuff, similar sort of thing. But you cut out

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Speaker 3: the really old branches. And you can always tell in

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Speaker 3: these berries what the old branches. They're darker, they're larger,

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Speaker 3: and and they're thick, you know, really thick growth. Get

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Speaker 3: get rid of them after five years, I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 3: get the new ones to do the job. And that

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Speaker 3: is basically how it goes now as it happens. A

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Speaker 3: day after we did this, we went harrier trapping in Leiston,

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Speaker 3: just in south you.

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, he Harriet hawk trapping.

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Speaker 3: Harriet hawks. Yeah, we trapped them in and banned them,

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Speaker 3: and it's always good fun. But that's dangerous too. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: if we've got these cages, and some of these cages

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Speaker 3: I put in the Leastern Black current patches, there are

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Speaker 3: acres and acres of them, and they can't do that

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Speaker 3: by hand like we did. They do it. They do

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Speaker 3: it literally with a machine that cuts it all down

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Speaker 3: at four feet and goes every two years. So that

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Speaker 3: to me indicates that you can be totally ruthless.

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Speaker 2: That's good to know. So I don't. I don't have

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Speaker 2: any currents at my place currently, but I do have

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Speaker 2: I do have blueberries. So is there anything? Is there

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Speaker 2: anything I need to do right now for blueberries? Oh?

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Speaker 2: By the way, I've got an update for you in

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Speaker 2: a second.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, I go. No. I to be quite honest,

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't grow blueberries because I always get

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Speaker 3: birds in my Yeah, and I checked those and it's

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Speaker 3: not that great. My currents and my black parents in

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Speaker 3: my blueberries and blue black currents and so on in

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Speaker 3: a cage with netti, so they shouldn't get in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, the update, Well, the the update was that

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Speaker 2: the plants that I was telling you about, I definitely did.

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Speaker 3: So, Oh, you scraped them.

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Speaker 2: I scraped them. Yeah, I went I scraped them, and

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yep, these are dinners of doornail.

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Speaker 2: I really tried. Yeah. So I've got rid of them,

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Speaker 2: I've dug them out. I'm just we're going to have

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Speaker 2: to restart. My wife keeps on saying that I keep

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Speaker 2: on screwing up everything in the garden. But I've tried

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Speaker 2: to explain it's all our learning process.

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Speaker 3: No, no, you're saying you should do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what I see it. I said, Well,

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Speaker 2: she said, I can't believe you didn't water them. I said,

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Speaker 2: how many times did you order them? Sweet? Huh ah, dolisticity.

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Speaker 2: But I have decided already. But part of the reason

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Speaker 2: she was a little prickly was because I've decided that

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Speaker 2: there are already more things that I want to grow,

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Speaker 2: including I've decided that I'm I really want to have

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Speaker 2: a tamarillo tree. Oh it is so delicious. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: just feel like, especially at this time of year, they're just,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, they're just absolutely outstanding.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And you gotta get good, good, so good soil, please,

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Speaker 3: good well bred soil. That is that's your that is

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Speaker 3: your investment.

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Speaker 2: And water them. Yeah, it would be the key.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah that guys.

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Speaker 2: It guys a long way as well. Funny enough, Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much, appreciate your time as ever time and expertise.

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Speaker 2: Rude climb past in the garden for Sadi his tips

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Speaker 2: on proning your currents in time for summer. We'll be

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