1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: To Britain. We go Rod Little A very good morning 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: to you. 3 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, mate. 4 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Do excuse me for being rightfully superficial as always, but 5 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: I do need a weather update. Are you sweltering? Is 6 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: it above thirty? Is the end of the world meteorologically 7 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: upon you? 8 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: It is? It is even up here in the North. 9 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: I didn't go out today. I stayed inside and watched 10 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: cashing in the attic. It was too hot to do anything. 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: But it won't last. It'll last another couple of days 12 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: and then I'll. 13 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Have the rape exactly well, at least it's been nice 14 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: for Lemmy and has best friend, his best fishing mate, 15 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: which I know they didn't have licenses for, which is 16 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: sort of ironic. But I knowpe that Jeremy Clarkson's waded 17 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: in as well, and there seems to be a little 18 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: bit of upset about JD and his entourage. 19 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: Yes, it does, I think, but I think that was 20 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: always going to happen, because he is not liked by 21 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: a certain section of the population and by a certain section, 22 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: particularly of the chapter in class. The truth is, and 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: I think a great deal of credit has to go 24 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: to David Lammy for this, for how he's dealt with JD. 25 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 2: Vans and brought him on side and struck a common 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: bond that it shows a certain knack of diplomacy which 27 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: I haven't thought was there. Vance himself is clearly, you know, 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: an angler phile. The licenses stuff gives them manner break. 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: I don't suppose Lammy's ever been fishing in his life. 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: I think it comes from an estate in Tottenham. You know, 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what they'd have fished for there, but 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: you know, there's an awful lot of coughing anything which 33 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: surrounds Donald Trump or indeed JD. Evans, and this country 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: always comes under the snoping of the left. 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: The speaking of Trump. It was it Trump or was 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: it the State Department? Or was it both of them? 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: And there's business of you being a free country and 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: the protest and the noise going on, and I thought 39 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: you got on, Well does this cause a problem. 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: It's a shot across the bowels. It's certainly something both 41 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: Vance and Trump have set before, and now it's in 42 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: an official State Department investigation into human rights in various 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: countries of the world were particularly ours, and what the 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: State Department concluded was that over the last year human 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: rights has significantly worsened in this country as as a 46 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: consequence of the limitations on freedom of speech, and they 47 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: cited various examples, particularly incidentally, as you would imagine from 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: the State Department anti abortion demonstrations being stopped from even 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: saying anything. It has a certain resonance, and it has 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: a certain resonance with people like Kenrie beadenok with Nigel Farage, 51 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: and it does cause a problem for the government, which 52 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: is already under fire of that being a two tier 53 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: government which penalizes the for saying things. 54 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: But let's the left go exactly so does does starmer 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: way in or does he just walk that tight rope 56 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: and let that stuff fly, given he's got seemingly a 57 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: reasonable relationship with Washington. 58 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he said rather petulantly when he was in 59 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: a meeting with Trump and Vance, while they've had human 60 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: rights here for a very long time, which was at 61 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: least nicely sort of barbed, given that the United States 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: hasn't been in existence for a very long time. But 63 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: I think he would be ill advised to say anything 64 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: at all about it, because it will only inflame the situation. 65 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: What you ought to do is just to en sure 66 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: that everyone has a right to say what they think. 67 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So I'm reading yesterday that Reeves's latest plan 68 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: for the mess of gap that we've been talking about 69 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: and the ability to spend money versus the money you're 70 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: bringing in. Is this inheritance text? If you're going to 71 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: go for texts, Is inheritance the better of the options 72 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: or not? 73 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: I think they think it's the better of the option. 74 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: Shouldn't for not infuriating people, But it's already beginning to 75 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: infuriate people, largely people who object to being taxed twice 76 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: three times on one particular bit of income, you know, 77 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: which is what we're seeing with inheritance tax. Are there 78 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: are complex moral arguments about inheritance tax? You know. I 79 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: don't know what side of the line you're on, Mike, 80 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: but I find it difficult to call should should kids 81 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: be given a huge start in life? Or should they 82 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: have to work for themselves? Et cetera. 83 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: But when she comes to do it, which inevitably she 84 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: is going to, and she breaks a promise, does she 85 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: how do you explain that I'm not going to? 86 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: But what ses did circumstances changed, Mike? Is what she 87 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: will say. And it was forced upon us by the 88 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: by the refusal of her party to back the Welfare 89 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: Benefits Bill, and it's so on so so she will 90 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: try to wriggle through it by saying things have changed. 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: I planned to save this money through welfare reform, but 92 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: I wasn't allowed to. 93 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: You're a very good black mite. Well, you have a 94 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: good weekend and we'll catch up next week. Rod Little 95 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: in Britain for Us this Morning. For more from the 96 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news Talks it'd be 97 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.