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Speaker 1: Instead of looking back in anger and all the other

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Speaker 1: musical related cliches we could use. The reunion isabek on

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Speaker 1: Oas have announced the European too the next year. First

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Speaker 1: shows in sixteen years if Liam and Nole can keep

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Speaker 1: it together, got fourteen performances, playing for Cardiff, Manchester, London,

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Speaker 1: Edinburgh and Dublin. Jonathan Deane is The Times Executive Culture editor.

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Speaker 1: Anders will us.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Was there a moment that this was inevitably going to

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Speaker 1: come together or should we all be surprised and grateful?

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Speaker 3: I think the big moment came, well, I think the

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Speaker 3: confirmation before the official confirmation came when Liam Gallagher responded

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Speaker 3: on Twitter to somebody on Saturday and I basically see

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Speaker 3: you down the front, with then some expletives. But yes,

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Speaker 3: once Liam had said see you down the front, I

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Speaker 3: think everyone knew that this was happening.

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Speaker 2: I think the.

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Speaker 3: Inevitability possibly, I think it's ver inevitable for a while.

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Speaker 3: You know, the glory of the story are the warring brothers.

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Speaker 3: But people get older, people move on, and I do

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Speaker 3: I just believe it did feel like something's going to happen,

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Speaker 3: and it seems like the world's very happy that it

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Speaker 3: is to make this.

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Speaker 1: Do they need to be in a room together for

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Speaker 1: a while, answer a few questions and we can get

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Speaker 1: a vibe as to whether they can stand each other

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Speaker 1: or does a photo shoot as the pictures are been

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Speaker 1: looking at this morning do it.

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Speaker 3: I think they will probably get together and do an

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Speaker 3: interview together. Like the thing about the Gallagher brothers, which

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Speaker 3: I think has always been a glory frankly for journalists,

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Speaker 3: is that they like being interviewed. They're brilliant interviews. They

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Speaker 3: understand the power of the press. So it isn't even

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Speaker 3: so much that they obviously don't need help to sell

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Speaker 3: tickets because those tickets are going to fly on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: But I think kind of, you know, they need to

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Speaker 3: get together and just talk about it, talk about because

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Speaker 3: people want to know, and I think they want to

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Speaker 3: tell their story.

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Speaker 2: I think also it's actually the thing you said about,

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Speaker 2: you know, are they getting on, etc. I don't really

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Speaker 2: think that matters with them.

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Speaker 3: They're not particularly playful with each other on stage, they

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Speaker 3: never were in interviews. They often, like most siblings do,

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Speaker 3: snipe at each other. So I think in a way,

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Speaker 3: if they've got a truce that will hold in order

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Speaker 3: for them to play the gigs they can be getting

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Speaker 3: on just about okay without the need to frankly be

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Speaker 3: best of friends.

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Speaker 1: Do is this a one off to the extent there

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Speaker 1: is we'll do some shows, or is this we're back together,

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Speaker 1: this is a band and we can do this for

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Speaker 1: years to come.

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Speaker 3: This is the fascinating question here because I think, because

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Speaker 3: they've obviously said they're definitely going to be doing European

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Speaker 3: dates towards the end of the year, I'd be very

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Speaker 3: surprised if that doesn't then extend to outside Europe, probably

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Speaker 3: next year, partly because you know, this is the huge

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Speaker 3: caveat that they are enjoying it and they haven't fallen

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Speaker 3: out on the first show. If they if that hasn't happened,

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Speaker 3: I think they will continue. I think it'll become a

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Speaker 3: world tour. And then I think the interesting thing becomes

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Speaker 3: what do they do about music, because nobody knows, which

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Speaker 3: is the big unknown question is like will they release

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Speaker 3: new music? Blur died last year and it was very good,

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Speaker 3: so will they go down that route? Because this is

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Speaker 3: the thing like to me, part of the reason this

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Speaker 3: happened is that Liam has been enjoying a very successful

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Speaker 3: run through.

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Speaker 2: Definitely.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's a huge crowd this year, and I think

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Speaker 3: Noel got a little bit jealous of his songs being

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Speaker 3: sung to huge crowd but not by himself. I think

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Speaker 3: that's part of the reason. But Noel is still a

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Speaker 3: very good and very active songwriter, and I just feel

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Speaker 3: he might get bored just playing old songs again and again.

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Speaker 3: I would bet there'd be Oasis tracks, which would inevitably

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Speaker 3: mean it goes on for longer and longer.

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Speaker 1: Which then leads to the question are they still good?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's just is magic if that is the word?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 3: And I think also the reason this will work so

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Speaker 3: well is frankly because nobody has replaced them. It's this

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Speaker 3: really interesting thing in pop music in general, it's gone

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Speaker 3: towards solo artists, it's gone towards quite instant music. What

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Speaker 3: Oasis did was make this music, especially the first album

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Speaker 3: and the second to an extent, that was about release.

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Speaker 3: It was about freedom, It's about kind of here's the

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Speaker 3: drudgery of life. Here was some big anthems to make

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Speaker 3: us feel fantastic about our lives.

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Speaker 2: And quite hopeful.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's really replaced them since they went away, and I

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Speaker 3: think the question about whether they're good or not is

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Speaker 3: is it's a really tricky one because people say Blur

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Speaker 3: more intricate songs, albums.

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Speaker 2: Are better lyricists or radio had.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we're more pioneering pulp with smart all of this stuff.

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Speaker 3: But those people have tiny crowds compared to Oasis. And

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Speaker 3: what's really key is that these gigs are going to

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Speaker 3: be packed full of people in their teens, people in

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Speaker 3: their twenties, because this isn't just a Nosagia thing.

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Speaker 2: Oasis are very.

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Speaker 3: Very big among a very young audience, and that's because,

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Speaker 3: like I said, the music does something that hasn't really

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Speaker 3: been replaced. It's simple, which I don't mean an insulting way,

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Speaker 3: anthemic rock music, and so yeah, it hasn't been replaced

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Speaker 3: since they went away.

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Speaker 2: So that's why they're arguably bigger than ever, which is

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Speaker 2: slightly bizarre. So then I guess that kind of does

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Speaker 2: make them good.

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Speaker 1: Right, Jonathan, go well with that, Jonathan Dean. So we

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Speaker 1: got the shows in that powder of the world for now,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we go around the rest of the world.

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