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Speaker 1: for the full picture. Heather dup c Ellen Drive with

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Speaker 1: one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Welcome to the show. Coming up today. Trivan Mallard

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Speaker 3: is being sued by an eleven year old. We're going

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Speaker 3: to speak to the lawyer representing her. IID wants to

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Speaker 3: lift GST. We'll find out if that's a smart idea.

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Speaker 3: And Murray Crane, the man who makes beautiful suits, doesn't

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Speaker 3: believe Auckland CBD is there, so he's signed on for

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Speaker 3: another twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: Heather duper c Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Question for you, should Moana Pacifica be saved at this stage?

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Speaker 3: There is a really strong chance that this has been

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Speaker 3: more Onana Pacifica's best and last season in Super Rugby?

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Speaker 3: Do you want them to have another one? And here's

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Speaker 3: the second question for you, if you do, how much

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Speaker 3: should the taxpayer put into save this rugby club? Should

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Speaker 3: it be seven million dollars because that's apparently what they're short.

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Speaker 3: The final order money is gone. It's understood that Sky

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Speaker 3: a year It's also understood that World Rugby wants to

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Speaker 3: either reduce or completely cut the money that it puts in.

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Speaker 3: That's about one point seven million dollars a year. So

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Speaker 3: when you add it all up for a club that

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Speaker 3: costs about twelve million dollars a year to run, it

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Speaker 3: that it needs. My answer to the first question I

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Speaker 3: asked you is yes, Miner Pacifica should be saved. There

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Speaker 3: is a very very good reason to have a super

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Speaker 3: Tonga and Psalm War. I'm not sure it actually works,

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Speaker 3: but the idea is worth it. The idea is worth

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Speaker 3: seeing if it can work. And the other reason that

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Speaker 3: success story out of the past season. My answer to

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Speaker 3: the second question is nothing. The taxpayer should put in

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Speaker 3: absolutely nothing. Now I'm preempting what I think is going

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Speaker 3: You can almost guarantee there's going to be a request

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Speaker 3: for taxpayer help. I've already heard it suggested by commentators,

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Speaker 3: does a lot of money to find and I doubt

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Speaker 3: very much you're gonna find it from corporate sponsors. Do

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Speaker 3: you think so? Sky TV is skinning the game? Sky

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Speaker 3: TV actually needs this squad to do well, and even

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Speaker 3: they apparently are pulling their sponsorship deal. This is not

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Speaker 3: a taxpayer problem. This is why I don't want money

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Speaker 3: to go into it from the taxpayer. This is a

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Speaker 3: rugby problem, right, This is a problem for New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Rugby and Rugby Australia to fix. They are the ones

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Speaker 3: who own the Super Rugby competition. They are the ones

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Speaker 3: who make money off the broadcast deal. They are the

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Speaker 3: ones who need to save this team. I hope they

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Speaker 3: can sort it out, though, because in a Super Rugby

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Speaker 3: competition that honestly failed to excite people during the regular season,

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Speaker 3: more Onna Pacifica were one of the best stories ever.

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Speaker 2: Dup CL nine two nine.

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Speaker 3: Two is the text number. Standard text fees apply and

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Speaker 3: we will be discussing this with a sports title later on.

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Speaker 3: Right now, though, and what's being described as a pretty

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Speaker 3: Thank you? How helpful is it?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 5: Look, it's really great.

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Speaker 6: But maybe firstly, our most common name is Tarfucky because

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Speaker 3: is this eleven year old who is suing Trevor Mallard.

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Speaker 7: Hello Heather.

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Speaker 3: Why is it only a one year deal for SALGP

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Speaker 7: Mysterifying to me.

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Speaker 8: I would have imagined that it would have been a

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is somebody using this for leverage somewhere along the way,

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Speaker 8: I don't think there's any leverage that Auckland really have.

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Speaker 8: I mean, and sale GP's got plenty of leverage. As

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Speaker 7: Look. Whether or not that's absolutely true, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: And he's a key we I think he loves coming

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Speaker 3: Does this mean that christ Church is now it's Gomburger

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Speaker 7: I think you might be bang on the money there, Heather.

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Speaker 8: I don't think SALEGP will ever go back to christ Church.

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Speaker 3: Why is it really just the Dolphins?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, listen, the Warriors tomorrow night playing the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: That'd be Heather. So it was a very famous game, Maria.

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Speaker 3: It's been pointed out to me that's nothing knew what

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Speaker 10: As you remember a few months ago, the press was saying,

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Speaker 3: US senators have had a classified briefing on the effectiveness

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Speaker 11: Obliterated is a good word for me to use.

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Speaker 12: I can deal people in South Carolina.

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Speaker 12: She is the Pentagon correspondent for Fox News, a former

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Speaker 9: dozen trucks there to day in advanced Are you certain

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Speaker 9: none of that highly enriched uranium was moved?

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Speaker 2: Of course, we're.

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Speaker 12: Watching every single aspect, But Jennifer, you've been about the worst,

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Speaker 12: the one who misrepresents the most intentionally.

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Speaker 5: I know what the President.

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Speaker 12: Says, and of course Haig says at the NATO summit

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Speaker 12: just recently concluded at the Hague and the Netherlands said

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Speaker 12: so if you want to make an assessment of what happened,

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Speaker 12: you better get a big shovel and go really deep,

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Speaker 12: because Iran's nuclear program is here again their favorite word, obliterated.

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Speaker 12: The President is not at all happy with some of

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Speaker 12: these leaks that have now been confirmed to come out

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Speaker 12: in all capital letters. This morning, he posted on social

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Speaker 12: media fake news reporters from CNN and The New York

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Speaker 12: Times should be fired immediately three exclamation points, bad people

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Speaker 12: with evil intentions. And the administration today, including the Press Secretary,

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Speaker 12: has called out Natasha Bertrand from CNN with the president.

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Speaker 12: How is it to have the President of the United

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Speaker 12: States call for you to be fired? From CNN. He

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Speaker 12: goes on and on the President Trump says she should

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Speaker 12: be fired immediately and thrown out like a dog. Just

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Speaker 12: amazing commentary that we have continue on a daily basis

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Speaker 12: from the White House.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just another day with Donald Trump and charge. Listen,

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Speaker 3: if you've got senators going into the same briefing and

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Speaker 3: you've got the Republicans coming out and saying it was abliteration,

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Speaker 3: and you've got the Democrats coming out and saying it

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Speaker 3: was not obliteration at all, then I think the fair

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Speaker 3: assumption is that it's somewhere in the middle right, that

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Speaker 3: there was significant damage downe but we don't know how much.

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Speaker 12: That is pretty much the case.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's always the story.

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Speaker 12: If you're in a courtroom and you have eyewitness testimony,

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Speaker 12: always take that with a grain of the grain of sand,

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Speaker 12: because it could go really either way. And we have

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Speaker 12: amazing stories coming from the Department of Homeland Security. They're

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Speaker 12: now pushing back, Heather. You may have heard about this

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Speaker 12: earlier this month. A young Norwegian tourist named Madz Milkinson

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Speaker 12: says that he had been denied entry to the country

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Speaker 12: simply because he had a mem of a fat and

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Speaker 12: bald Vice President jd Vance on his phone. DHS says

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Speaker 12: he was not let in now because he admitted marijuana

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Speaker 12: use and had a picture of a wooden pipe on

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Speaker 12: his phone. But wait, how can you be deported for

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Speaker 12: doing something that is legal for recreational use, including in

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Speaker 12: New Jersey where he came into the US at Newark Airport,

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Speaker 12: in almost half the states. Well, the states say it's

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Speaker 12: okay to use marijuana, but it's still a federal crime,

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Speaker 12: so you still can technically be deported. Same thing happened

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Speaker 12: to Australian journalist Alistair Kitchen when he tried to come

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Speaker 12: back into the US earlier this month. The real reason,

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Speaker 12: and it was even alluded to him by, according to him,

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Speaker 12: by some of the Customs and Border Patrol agents, was

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Speaker 12: because of his reporting about pro Palestinian demonstrations at Columbia

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Speaker 12: University in New York. Speaking from Melbourne after flying to

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Speaker 12: Los Angeles and then right back to Australia, he had

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Speaker 12: this advice for anyone thinking of a visit to the US.

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Speaker 15: If you don't have a great reason to go to

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Speaker 15: the United States and you're a tourist, this might not

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Speaker 15: be the time. The second is that if you have

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Speaker 15: anything sensitive on your phone, do not take that phone.

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Speaker 15: Take a burn a phone, populate it with some content

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Speaker 15: so that it doesn't look suspicious.

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Speaker 5: And the third thing is.

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Speaker 15: If all that fails and you end up in the

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Speaker 15: position that I was in, and you were offered after

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Speaker 15: getting off a fifteen hour flight, a choice between depotation

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Speaker 15: and having your phone searched and downloaded. My view is

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Speaker 15: accept immediate devotation.

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Speaker 2: Now have there.

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Speaker 12: I don't go quite that extreme. I was just in

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Speaker 12: Mexico last week and last month. But what I even

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Speaker 12: do is I turn off face ID because in our

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Speaker 12: interesting lives, I don't think our founding fathers had any

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Speaker 12: idea of biometric identification. They can just hold the phone

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Speaker 12: up to you and unlock your phone if you have

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Speaker 12: face ID, but if you turn that off, they are

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Speaker 12: not allowed because of Fourth Amendment and unreasonable search and

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Speaker 12: seizure to get into your phone. They're not able to

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Speaker 12: tell you to give them the pass code if you're

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Speaker 12: an American, but they can still take your phone.

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Speaker 3: Now, Kirk, that is very very good advice to anyone

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Speaker 3: traveling with dodgy stuff on their phone. Thank you appreciate it, Kirk,

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Speaker 3: Client US correspondents, Hey, Super. Gosh, this thing just keeps

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Speaker 3: coming up, doesn't it. Okay, super annuation. You know it's

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Speaker 3: going to be so expensive, blah blah blah. IRD has

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Speaker 3: got itself involved in this.

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Speaker 16: Now.

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Speaker 3: IRD says, we've got to do something about the cost

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Speaker 3: of SUPER. So it's put out a draft long Term

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Speaker 3: Insights briefing, they call it. It's the draft one out

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Speaker 3: for consultation. They said, the bunch of ways we can

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Speaker 3: deal with this, right, we can number one, you know,

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Speaker 3: cut spending here and there to save a few dollars.

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Speaker 3: Or we could lift tax. And it'll be no surprise

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Speaker 3: whatsoever that the taxman decided that the best thing to

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Speaker 3: do would be to lift tax. And their preference for

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Speaker 3: how to lift tax in order to basically pay for

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Speaker 3: Super into the future is to lift GST. Currently gess,

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Speaker 3: I mean GST recently in the last what fifteen or

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Speaker 3: so years went from ten from twelve and a half

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Speaker 3: percent to fifteen percent. They haven't said where they would

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Speaker 3: raise to it, not that I can see. We will

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Speaker 3: have a chat to Jeff Nightingale about this. He's of

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Speaker 3: course a tax sex, but he'll be with us after

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Speaker 3: five o'clock. If us had taken where it would go

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Speaker 3: to if iad got its wish.

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Speaker 1: It's quarter two politics with centrics credit, check your customers

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Speaker 1: and get payments certainty right.

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Speaker 3: Thomas Coglan, New Zealand Herald Political Letters with us A Thomas.

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Speaker 17: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: So why is Tanya really leaving?

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Speaker 17: I'm stumped? If you know this is that I am.

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Speaker 17: I'm as stumped as everyone else. I did hear a

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Speaker 17: bit of a whisper that this might be happening today. Tanyankovich,

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Speaker 17: obviously New Zealand first MP first term, just announced out

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Speaker 17: of the blue that she was going to be leaving

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Speaker 17: parliament this week. Today the parties posted a nice picture

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Speaker 17: of a farewell on on Twitter. Unfortunately for Tania, they

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Speaker 17: chose the picture where she has her eyes closed, so

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Speaker 17: they did her a weave bit dirty there. I know.

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Speaker 17: Do you want to did the the beehive criminologist might

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Speaker 17: want to read into that what they will.

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Speaker 3: The photo guy had one job.

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Speaker 17: Exactly, but but look it doesn't. It doesn't look like

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Speaker 17: there's anything anything to this yet. She's seems to have

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Speaker 17: gotten a better offer doing a bit of motivational speaking,

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Speaker 17: making more money in the private sector.

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Speaker 5: It seems.

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Speaker 17: And it also would appear that she doesn't really like

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Speaker 17: parliament that much. If I know, you might be able

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Speaker 17: to read into this decision that conclusion as well. But

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Speaker 17: that doesn't look like there's anything anything else to this

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Speaker 17: than than just an MP deciding they don't want the

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Speaker 17: gig anymore. But weird though to leave.

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Speaker 3: Midterm, Yeah, it is. It is weird. But even that

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Speaker 3: in and of itself is interesting, don't you think, Thomas,

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Speaker 3: Because this is Tanya is not a backbencher in the opposition,

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Speaker 3: which truly would be a sucky job. She is a

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Speaker 3: backbencher in a coalition government, right, So surely that that

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Speaker 3: you have some sense of being at least close to

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Speaker 3: the nexus of power or able to do something. The

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Speaker 3: fact that somebody is in one of the governing parties

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Speaker 3: and is like this really sucks. I think says a

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Speaker 3: lot about the way that parliament works, doesn't.

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Speaker 17: It, Which is a lot about the way that an

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Speaker 17: MMP parliament works, which is that if you are a

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Speaker 17: backbencher in the government, you're really doing the sort of clapping, seal, smiling,

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Speaker 17: smile and wave routine. Yeah, you sit on the back,

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Speaker 17: clapp your hands really loud, ask stupid Patsy questions and

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Speaker 17: talk about how great your government is. You don't really

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Speaker 17: have much power at all. If a constituent wants something done,

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Speaker 17: you can try and knock on the minister's door, but

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Speaker 17: you're only slightly more likely to get welcomed in than

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Speaker 17: you are if you are a member of the opposition,

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Speaker 17: And in fact, opposition MPs and the backbench MP's might

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Speaker 17: have more fun because they have more freedom to speak.

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Speaker 17: You know, if Tan your Unclevitch didn't like, you know,

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Speaker 17: hypothetically didn't like what the government was doing, she suddenly

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Speaker 17: wouldn't be allowed to say so. So I think it

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Speaker 17: says a lot about EMP parliaments that perhaps backbench career

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Speaker 17: isn't that appealing.

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Speaker 3: And I suppose the fact that she's sitting next to it,

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Speaker 3: I've dug up the photo Jesus is really honestly as

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Speaker 3: bad as it's not even like it's not even like

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Speaker 3: she's in the back row and you don't notice her

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Speaker 3: eyes is closed. She is front and center with her

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Speaker 3: eyes full of No they did, but I suppose it's

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Speaker 3: it's I mean, everybody's there looking like a happy family.

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Speaker 3: So there's probably nothing nothing sort of like there's no intraparty.

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Speaker 17: You wouldn't post a heavy photo like that if this

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Speaker 17: was a you know, the precursor to a scandal.

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Speaker 3: No true, Hey, listen, the chances of the s eleven

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Speaker 3: year old's case against Triva Mallard succeeding on a scale

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Speaker 3: of one to ten.

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Speaker 17: Well, look as Whins and Peters might say, I am

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Speaker 17: no Philadelphia lawyer. But but I would say, on the

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Speaker 17: face of it, low.

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Speaker 3: I don't blow question mark zero one two.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, just look that the child claims that Triuva Maillard

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Speaker 17: is speaker breached their rights during the parliamentary protest. They

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Speaker 17: have they have taken a legal election against Tuvia Maillard.

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Speaker 17: But it looks yeah, it doesn't look like the kind

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Speaker 17: of case that would go far. But like I say,

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Speaker 17: no Philadelphia lawyer or no lawyer of any kind.

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Speaker 3: No, okay, thank you very much, Thomas. We'll wrap the

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Speaker 3: political week with you later on quarter passix or thereabouts.

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Speaker 3: It's nine away from five. That was Thomas Coglan, the

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Speaker 3: Herald's political editor.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 13: The interweber's awash currently telling me Erica Stamford is the

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Speaker 13: Wocist minister in the government and under the cover of

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Speaker 13: Dartin she is snuck into legislation commitment to the treaty

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Speaker 13: that entrenches it in a way we should all be

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Speaker 13: alarmed about. And Erica Stamford is, of course the Minister

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Speaker 13: of Education.

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Speaker 4: You say what I mean, This is what happens when

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Speaker 4: you get a bunch of people who get all whipped

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Speaker 4: up with hatred and spout and complete and uttered lies.

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Speaker 13: It is correct to say it is in there, and

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Speaker 13: therefore some of the stuff that they're talking about can happen.

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Speaker 5: Therefore they are correct.

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Speaker 4: Well, hold on a minute, Yes it's there. I didn't

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Speaker 4: put it there like that, claiming it's been there for

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Speaker 4: a very long time.

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Speaker 2: Are there legitimate questions? Yes?

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Speaker 13: Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 13: a Vida News Talk z B Hire are.

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Speaker 3: Other words, these guys are completely wasting the time of

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Speaker 3: the court to say nothing of the cost. One would

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Speaker 3: hope if said child loses the court orders them to

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Speaker 3: pay the costs of it all. Five Away from five

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Speaker 3: press release Hot Off the Old Printer from Tipuney Corky

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Speaker 3: TPK is ordering a review into what they say is

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Speaker 3: the quote alleged inappropriate use of Fano order funds, which

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Speaker 3: is basically what we were talking about at the very

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Speaker 3: start of this program, which is the money that was

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Speaker 3: you know, that you and I would think was going

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Speaker 3: into Keddy's jabs and health and education and so on,

658
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Speaker 3: being used to fund more Onana Pacific, a rugby team.

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Speaker 3: The review will focus on whether the commissioning agencies have

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Speaker 3: met their contractual obligations for the use of the public funds.

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Speaker 3: The terms of reference for the review and the reviewer

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Speaker 3: will be announced next week, so stand by for that.

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Speaker 3: Looks like the Minister's managed to get get a bit

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Speaker 3: of movement going there. Can I ask you a question?

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Speaker 3: Do you think this is too long to have somebody

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Speaker 3: else's package sitting on my front doorstep?

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Speaker 16: Wait for this?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so Monday, I look, I didn't even hear the courier.

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Speaker 3: I just looked out the front door. Oh there we go.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's a box, I thought, yay, who doesn't like

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Speaker 3: seeing a box? Much to my disappointment, not not addressed

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Speaker 3: to Heather, in fact addressed to Elena, and I thought, whoops,

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Speaker 3: there's a problem. What's the address? Oh, that's right. So

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Speaker 3: the only thing that Elena and I have in common

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Speaker 3: is the number of house that we live at. It's

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Speaker 3: the same number, completely different road. Elena lives at Fisher

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Speaker 3: Point Drive in the CBD. So if you know Elena

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Speaker 3: who lives at Fisher Point Drive in the CBD, can

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Speaker 3: you please tell her that her Mocker packages are sitting

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Speaker 3: on my doorstep. They arrived on Monday, and so I

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Speaker 3: called the courier company. Because I'm a good citizen, so

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Speaker 3: I called the courier companies like, hello, you've dropped it

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Speaker 3: off to Heather. You meant to Lena out. She's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: thanks for letting us know Tuesday Wednesday. I thought, no,

685
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Speaker 3: something's gone right. I told them again. She's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I talked to you before. I was like, yes, I remember,

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Speaker 3: and she said she said, oh, the courier driver lied

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Speaker 3: to me. So he told her in dispatch that he'd

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Speaker 3: come back and picked it up, and he had. That's

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Speaker 3: why are you winning them? I'm not finished with my story.

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Speaker 3: So he told her he picked it up and he hadn't. Anyway.

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Speaker 3: I said to her, no, can you can you get

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Speaker 3: him to come around? Yeah, I'll get him in the air.

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Speaker 3: It's Friday, it's still there. We've just had a rainstorm.

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Speaker 3: Now Elena's furniture flat pack furniture is wet, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: So I've called Mocha and I've told Mocha because I

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Speaker 3: figured maybe Mocha can tell the This is naughty, though,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. This is naughty because I feel like what

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Speaker 3: they're They're expecting me to go and take the package rump.

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Speaker 3: It's too heavy. Otherwise I would and I'm so lazy today,

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Speaker 3: so I'm not going to. But that's naughty, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: You can tell me, you can. I mean, I feel

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Speaker 3: like the whole pole is just going to be Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's naughty, isn't it. What's the point in getting a

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Speaker 3: poll done on it? Anyway? There you go, talk to

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Speaker 3: the lawyer. Next News Talks at.

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Speaker 1: Be digging through the spin fence to find the real story.

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Speaker 1: Oring It's Heather Dupsy on drive with One New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Let's get connected.

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Speaker 2: News Talks that be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Trevor Mallard is being sued by a teenage You're

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Speaker 3: for turning the sprinklers on the protest is at Parliament

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two. The girl was eleven at the time.

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Speaker 3: She's accusing him of causing mental anguish, humiliation, and dehumanization

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Speaker 3: by weaponizing Baby Shark, and she's seeking forty thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: in damages. Tudor Clee is the lawyer taking the case

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Speaker 3: and with us. Now, Hey, Tudor, good afternoon, Tudor. While

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Speaker 3: I love that you're suing him, and he absolutely does

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Speaker 3: deserve this, this is not going to succeed, is it.

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Speaker 18: Well, I think it is, and that's why we're taking

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Speaker 18: the case. I mean, ultimately, it's a case about whether

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Speaker 18: or not this child was degraded and having extrement flooded

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Speaker 18: into her and being blasted with music is, on the

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Speaker 18: face of it, my view, degrading. And if it isn't,

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Speaker 18: then what is it?

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Speaker 3: Are you doing this pro bono?

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Speaker 18: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I am Why.

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Speaker 18: Well, I think that we've got to a point where

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Speaker 18: we can even have a consensus about whether or not

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Speaker 18: it's wrong to flood excrem into children order to blastem

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Speaker 18: with music, and I think that something has to be

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Speaker 18: done about.

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Speaker 3: Just because you said it twice, what do you mean

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Speaker 3: by flood excrement into children?

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Speaker 18: Well, so, there doesn't seem to be any dispute that

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Speaker 18: Trevor Mallard flooded the Parliament grounds, like he told police

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Speaker 18: that he was going to do it, he did it.

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Speaker 18: The next day, he went at the News and said

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Speaker 18: he did it. A week after he told Audrey Young

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Speaker 18: at the Herald that he was aware that there was

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Speaker 18: excrement in the grounds and that's what he was flooding

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Speaker 18: the water through it. So the police described it as

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Speaker 18: a quagmire of quagmire of human feces and mud by

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Speaker 18: the next day. So again this doesn't seem to be

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Speaker 18: any dispute about the sanitation issues that were there. And

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Speaker 18: so the question is that is this how we treat

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Speaker 18: them for the New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: I love that he's getting his come up, and but

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Speaker 3: this is exactly the kind of long bow that's being

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Speaker 3: drawn in this case. It would appear that makes it

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Speaker 3: really unlike it's going to succeed.

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Speaker 18: Well, if it doesn't succeed other then at least we

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Speaker 18: know moving forward that if you have a protest of

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Speaker 18: Parliament and you disagree with the people, then you open

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Speaker 18: the sewage and you flood them out. And if that's

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Speaker 18: how if that's what the case is, then I think

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Speaker 18: that everyone.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm not a fan of Truva Mallied but I

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Speaker 3: feel like you are exaggerating what's happened here. He didn't

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Speaker 3: open the sewage, did he? I mean he played the

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Speaker 3: macarena at people like a child and then turned on

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Speaker 3: the sprinklers, knowing full well that they would likely to

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Speaker 3: be damaged. I mean, if we stick to the facts,

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Speaker 3: what he did was was he bad? Like a dickhead?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 18: I mean I get yeah, I'm not going to argue

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Speaker 18: with that.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Okay, have you heard from him?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 18: I haven't. I mean, it's it's obviously in a court process.

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Speaker 18: But yes, so they says that it's just progressing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And when is this likely to actually go to court?

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Speaker 18: I would say probably about a year to get a

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Speaker 18: trial there realistically. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Are you worried at all about wasting court time here?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 18: And I think these sollegitimate questions that need to be answered.

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Speaker 3: Okay, sheet a best of like, I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep an eye on it. That's due to Clee,

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Speaker 3: a lawyer taking the case.

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Speaker 2: Ever do for see Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Inland Revenue has recommended lifting GST higher in order to

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Speaker 3: pay for superannuation. It's released a report, it's a draft

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Speaker 3: report looking at the expected cost of supern It says

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Speaker 3: we can either we could do one or two things.

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Speaker 3: We can either cut government spending or we can and

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Speaker 3: this is the tax man's preverred option, raise more tax

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Speaker 3: Jeffna Nightingale is an independent tax expert in with us.

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Speaker 16: Now, Hey, Jeff, Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 3: Now, they haven't said what they would prefer to lift

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Speaker 3: the GST to. But if you take a punt at it,

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Speaker 3: where do you think it would go?

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Speaker 16: Well, it depends. The lifting GST is a very fast

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Speaker 16: and efficient way to raise revenue. Gsts about quarter of

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Speaker 16: our quarter to a third of all of our tax

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Speaker 16: so it's a very quick way, but it's got a

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Speaker 16: whole of problems that it's very regressive, it impacts much more,

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Speaker 16: much harder on lower income people, and you know, it's

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Speaker 16: a politically difficult.

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Speaker 2: Thing to do.

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Speaker 16: So all we're doing really is trying to explore if

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Speaker 16: we can't halt the track of increasing expenditure mainly driven

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Speaker 16: by age, we will need to raise more taxes or

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Speaker 16: cut that expenditure. But if we can't cut that expenditure

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00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 16: politically too difficult, we need to raise new taxes. So

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Speaker 16: they're exploring what the best mix of new taxes might

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Speaker 16: be in a sort of a prink piece.

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Speaker 3: As you say, it is regressive, right, But what they

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Speaker 3: say is, rather than cutting the GST of groceries, which

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Speaker 3: is obviously the one everybody goes to, what could be

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Speaker 3: used instead as tax credits? Would you prefer that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: The problem? The problem with taking GST off food or

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Speaker 16: good things, if you like health care or education, is

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Speaker 16: that you're not always sure that those savings are going

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Speaker 16: to be passed on to consumers. Some of them might

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Speaker 16: get captured by the suppliers, and so it's a bit

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Speaker 16: slippery where the savings go. And the second thing is

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Speaker 16: that it causes real compliance difficulties. What's fresh food, what's

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Speaker 16: not fresh food? And there's some hilarious examples off sure.

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Speaker 16: So the other option they've suggested is that we raise

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Speaker 16: the GEST, keep it really broad, no exemptions, but we

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Speaker 16: rebate back a certain amount of the extra tax revenue

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Speaker 16: are extra GST revenue, We rebate it back to lower

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Speaker 16: to higher income support at the lower end in order

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Speaker 16: to offset the aggressiveness. That's the system that I would

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Speaker 16: prefer if we have to go down that track.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, very quickly, do you think this is the

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Speaker 3: case of a government department telling a government what it

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Speaker 3: wants to hear.

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Speaker 16: No, No, I think this is the case. Under the

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Speaker 16: Public Finance Act, they have to do this every three years.

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Speaker 16: They have to think out loud about the future, and

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Speaker 16: that's what they're doing. They've been very careful not to

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Speaker 16: make any recommendations and they absolutely say it's the parliament.

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Speaker 16: It's the government's job to make the decisions. They are

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Speaker 16: just setting out the various options.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good stuff, Jeff, good to talk to you as always,

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Speaker 3: Jeff Nightingale, independent tax expert Heather do for clos but

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Speaker 3: use obviously the sale GP confirmed for a year and

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Speaker 3: proper thereafter. We're going to talk to Auckland Unlimited about it. Shortly,

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Speaker 3: quick update for you on the wedding of the year,

844
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Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos's wedding, because as you know, it's obviously very

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Speaker 3: very very early morning in Venice, and so they are

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Speaker 3: just that we're now into wedding day. We are now

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Speaker 3: officially into wedding day, but of course they've just finished overnight,

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Speaker 3: which is when the pre party was happening.

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Speaker 19: You know, you saw it.

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Speaker 3: Oprah arrived and Gale arrived and Orlando arrived and Katie

851
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Speaker 3: wasn't there, which started us asking, well, what's got why

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Speaker 3: it's Katie. Oh, they've separated, So that's a side story.

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Speaker 3: And you've got all the Kardashians there, you've got the

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Speaker 3: Jenna there, and you've got just absolutely Trump said no,

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Speaker 3: but the in laws went and blah blah blah. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: it's been rained out. Unfortunately, the thing came to a

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Speaker 3: grinding holt, huge freak thunderstorm, Lightning bolts across the sky

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Speaker 3: and thunder you know, and like torrential downpours, and they

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Speaker 3: had strong wind and was whipping the tablecloths and everybody

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Speaker 3: was getting completely soaked. So they ran them all had

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Speaker 3: a little gold outfits on. The officials were working there,

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Speaker 3: and they ran them all out with their little gigantic

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Speaker 3: umbrellas and try to keep them dry and got them

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Speaker 3: into the water taxes. Everybody are completely soaked, and so

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Speaker 3: unless they wrap that, if they go straight into the

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Speaker 3: air con in the hotel, you know they're going to

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Speaker 3: get a cold and then today is going to be ruined.

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Speaker 3: So that they're going to have to manage the next

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Speaker 3: few minutes very careful.

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Speaker 2: Left.

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Speaker 3: They possibly can quarter past now if you want to

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Speaker 3: make positive health and well being change, here is a

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Speaker 3: simple way to enjoy the healthiest year of your life. First,

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Speaker 3: you need a balanced diet, so everything in moderation. Then

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883
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Speaker 3: antioxidants in abundance. It is one hundred percent natural as well.

884
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Speaker 3: need to do is just mixed with order and shake.

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Speaker 3: to do it today, Heather do for see Allen eighteen

889
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Speaker 3: past five now very very good news if you love

890
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: seeing things work properly and also love sale GP It's

891
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: coming back to Auckland next year, slightly later in the

892
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: year though it's going to be in February. Michelle Hooper

893
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 3: is the head of Major Events at Tartuki and Auckland

894
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 3: Unlimited and is with us now. Michelle.

895
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 16: Hello, good to.

896
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 20: Evening, Heather, to bring you some great stunny news on

897
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 20: a dreary old winter's day.

898
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: Tell you what it's good in the middle of winter

899
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: to be thinking about sitting outside watching sailing in the summer.

900
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: Explain something to because I'm a little bit confused. Is

901
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: this is this a new deal or is this just

902
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: part of the original four year deal and this is

903
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: the last year of it?

904
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Speaker 20: What the latter has creped starts the end of a

905
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 20: four year deal, So you don't we delighted to have

906
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 20: secured it for twenty twenty six for Auckland obviously the

907
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 20: mbhead of kind of overriding agreement with sales up and

908
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 20: then we lockdown the details between ourselves and christ Yurts

909
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 20: at different times that this is the final kind of

910
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 20: piece of puzzle.

911
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: So the delighted to have secured the new but here

912
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Speaker 3: is that it's not christ Church, it's us in Auckland.

913
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 20: Yes, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, correct, Yeah, and that it's yes,

914
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 20: it's well great that it's coming back.

915
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: Do you think that we're going to get it in

916
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: twenty seven as well?

917
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 21: Oh, we hope to.

918
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 20: Yep, we've just got to get through the obviously have

919
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 20: another great year next year and it'll go from strength

920
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 20: to strength. The you know, intention by all parties is

921
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 20: that we do we just have to sort the long

922
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 20: term funding solution out for major events that the intention

923
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 20: is that we'll get there with them and you know,

924
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 20: for an event like cel GP and how it really

925
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 20: takes all of our boxes in terms of it.

926
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Speaker 2: You know what New.

927
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Speaker 20: Zealanders love, what Autan does love. You know, it's a

928
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 20: really it's a great it's a great product.

929
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Speaker 3: Okay, So it comes down to money before we know

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00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: about twenty seven, what's the problem there?

931
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Speaker 20: Well, I mean it's very public in terms of the

932
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Speaker 20: going back and forward about the bed Livy and how

933
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 20: we'd like to secure that nationally, and there's been very

934
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 20: vocal about wanting to secure that and really we need

935
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Speaker 20: to unlock our ability to deliver a major event on

936
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Speaker 20: a much border scale across the country. You know the

937
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 20: fact that we weren't able to government wouldn't contribute to

938
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Speaker 20: supporting the America's Cup. You know, we kind of get

939
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Speaker 20: into the perpetual cycle of not being able to get

940
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Speaker 20: the things we need. But however, we're very fortunate to

941
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Speaker 20: have the likes of sale GP, which is an amazing product,

942
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 20: and you know, we're really lucky with that we can

943
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 20: utilize all of the incredible infrastructure that's been invested over

944
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Speaker 20: previous major event hosting for international sailing here in Auckland,

945
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Speaker 20: good Seah, and you know, we're really delivering an event

946
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Speaker 20: which we have an incredibly educated sailing audience in New

947
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 20: Zealand thanks to the legacy of America's Cups. And it's

948
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Speaker 20: great that we can just you know, get an event

949
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Speaker 20: like sale GP, stand it up incredibly quickly and deliver

950
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Speaker 20: an incredibly professional event in the best way possible.

951
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Speaker 3: Michelle, thank you very much. Best of luck with that.

952
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: That's Michelle Hooper, head of Major Events at Auckland Unlimited. Heather,

953
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: you don't get the flu when you get wet from

954
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Speaker 3: the rain.

955
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 7: Hang.

956
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: I never said you get the flu. I said you

957
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: get a chill. And if you're going to debate with

958
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: me with you get sick from a chill or not

959
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 3: well I'm just going to refer you to the old

960
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 3: old ladies. That's what the old lady said. They said,

961
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Speaker 3: don't go get yourself wet and then get cold, because

962
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: then you're gonna get a chill and then you're gonna

963
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 3: get a snotty nose. And are you disputing that with me, Adam,

964
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 3: because if you are, I want to know what your

965
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: science is, because my science as old ladies five twenty one.

966
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: Checking the point of the story.

967
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: It's Heather duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

968
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Speaker 1: get connected.

969
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: And youth dog sa'd be.

970
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Speaker 3: You are absolutely correct, Heather. The new science agrees with

971
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 3: the old ladies that cold makes your your system more

972
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Speaker 3: vulnerable to viruses. Bob, thank you. So it's Bob and

973
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: the old ladies and me against I think with Adam

974
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: before than a five twenty four. Listen, there is a

975
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: conference on in Singapore right now where they've discussed the

976
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: importance of knowing your neighbors. Now, we obviously know you

977
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: need to know your neighbors for the obvious stuff like

978
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 3: watching out for each other's houses when one of you

979
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: is on holiday, having an extra set of eyes on

980
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: the kids in the neighborhood someone to borrow your sugar off,

981
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. But apparently, according to the people

982
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 3: who are at this conference, and it's a significant conference,

983
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: apparently it is also one of the best ways to

984
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 3: overcome the increasing polarization in the world right now, to

985
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 3: know your neighbor, presumably, because you can't choose your neighbors,

986
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: so you cannot choose whether your neighbors think like you,

987
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: or vote like you, or live like you. So if

988
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 3: you get to know them, you may in fact learn

989
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: that people with different politics or different views or different

990
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: lives are actually okay, and you have empathy for them

991
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: and therefore empathy perhaps for other people like them, thereby

992
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: reducing polarization. Now I love this. I mean, I'm baffled

993
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: how many people don't know their neighbors, and worse, I'm

994
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 3: baffled at how many people don't want to know their neighbors.

995
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: When we were getting some work done at the house,

996
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: for a minute, it looked like we were going to

997
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: need resource consent. If you know how resource consent works,

998
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: you basically need to get your neighbors consent in order

999
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: to do the work right. The company that we were

1000
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: using said, why don't you get this resource consent consultant

1001
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: to come and help you out. I didn't want to

1002
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: have to spend on a resource consent consultant. I called

1003
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: them up and said, how much do you charge so

1004
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 3: our five to ten thousand for this? I said, for what,

1005
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 3: five to ten thousand dollars for basically asking my neighbors

1006
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: to sign off on something? They said, yeah, but some

1007
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: people don't like talking to their neighbors. Isn't that mental

1008
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 3: that people would pay five to ten thousand dollars so

1009
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 3: that they can avoid having to talk to their neighbors.

1010
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: Turns out, not only can you save money by talking

1011
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 3: to your neighbors, but you can also save the world

1012
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 3: from increasing polarization. So get to it.

1013
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: Heather duplusy Ellen, I have got a.

1014
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: New theory on why the mushroom Chef judge in Australia

1015
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: is still summing up for the seven hundred and five

1016
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: fifth day in a row. That yes, the judge is

1017
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: still summing up. They said that they would be summing up.

1018
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 3: He said he would be summing up until Monday. This

1019
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: is my theory is that he's doing it basically to

1020
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 3: get us across the weekend, so he is he's just

1021
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: he's just flat. It's just flannel. At the minute, he's

1022
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: just saying, everything's just he's done a chat GPT search. Yeah,

1023
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: filibustering heart out. He's like that guy who's stood there

1024
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: for twenty five hours without doing a wi wi and

1025
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: just talked. And it was at Congress anyway. I think

1026
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: what he's done is a chat GPT search and he

1027
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: said to chat GPT, tell me everything you know about

1028
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: Aaron Patterson. Just printed everything out and he's just reading

1029
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: it to them. And why he's doing this, this is

1030
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: my theory. Why he's doing this is because he needs

1031
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: to get the jury across the weekend, right, because if

1032
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: he sent them out tomorrow all today, you'd go, okay, out,

1033
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 3: you go come back with a verdict, and they'd be like,

1034
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: stuff this, we've been here for eight days. Everybody, she's guilty, right,

1035
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 3: and we're out, And so they would be incentivized to

1036
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: reach a decision really quickly so they can get on

1037
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: with their lives. So what he's doing is he's sucking

1038
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: up their time, right, because what it means is we've

1039
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: got about four and a half clear days to the

1040
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: next weekend, so we could at least get four and

1041
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: a half clear days of deliberation before they, you know,

1042
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: force each other to say that she's guilty. That that

1043
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: is the only explanation for why this man is still

1044
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 3: talking headlines. Next, and let's go to the sports huddle.

1045
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: After making the news, the newsmakers talk to Heather first.

1046
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: It's Heather duplessy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

1047
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: get connected news talks.

1048
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: They'd be.

1049
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 9: Heather.

1050
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 16: Adam's right.

1051
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: A cold and flu are viruses, and you don't get

1052
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 3: them just by getting wet and cold. Steve, Steve wrong. Wrong,

1053
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: flu is a virus, cold as bacteria. Actually, you're welcome.

1054
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: Trust the old ladies, mate, trust the old ladies. Now

1055
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 3: after six o'clock, Murray Crane is going to be with this.

1056
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: Murray Crane is the man who Taylor's Fine men's suits,

1057
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 3: and he has long been a proponent, a big endorser

1058
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 3: of Auckland Central. He thinks that we're way off if

1059
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: we think that Auckland Central hasn't got life and it

1060
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: yet he's actually been there twenty six years. I think

1061
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: it is in High Street in Auckland Central. To just

1062
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: signed at least for another twenty five he's going to

1063
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: be with us and explain it to us after six

1064
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 3: o'clock quickly, how good? What is the news that Paul

1065
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: Henry is back at TV and Z not on the well,

1066
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: he is on the screen obviously for the traitors, but

1067
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: he's back on the board, so he's going to be

1068
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: calling the shots. Just being appointed by Minister Paul Goldsmith.

1069
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: Now I realize that just because you're good at one

1070
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: thing doesn't mean you're going to be good at another thing. Right,

1071
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: So just because you're a great broadcast it doesn't mean

1072
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 3: you're going to be a great board member. But I

1073
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: reckon there's a greater than average chance that he's going

1074
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: to be fantastic because I like the way he thinks.

1075
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: He's no nonsense, he's not sentimental. He's not going to

1076
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: stick stuff on TV and keep on funding it if

1077
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: it's not paying its way just because he's sentimental about it. Right.

1078
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: I like how he thinks. I like that he's prepared

1079
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 3: to try new things. So let's see you could do worse.

1080
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 3: Let's see how it goes. Twenty three away from.

1081
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: Six Friday Sports of LOLd with New Zealand Southurby's International

1082
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: Realty find You're one.

1083
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 5: Of a kind.

1084
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 22: What a game, what a pacifica speak the blows for

1085
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 22: the third time in their history.

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Speaker 23: There as a result of this deplorable behavior, there will

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Speaker 23: be no Rugby this coming weekend.

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Speaker 5: Get twenty eighth We then Hottest Renol Carpeting.

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Speaker 7: I would talk it to you this way.

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Speaker 16: If you got into the ring with Muhammad Ali and

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Speaker 16: you came out of it and you didn't lose, and

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Speaker 16: you didn't when you'd still be pretty happy on the sportshuttle.

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Speaker 3: Of me this evening got Darcy water Grave, sports talk

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00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 3: host and Nathan Lim news talks. He'd be sports reporter.

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Speaker 23: High lads, Good o'heather, Hi there, Mary Crane made my

1096
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 23: seat I got married in all those years ago that incidentally,

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Speaker 23: I still fit only bespoke seat I've ever purchased in

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Speaker 23: my life acrost, an arm and a league. But I've

1099
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Speaker 23: still got it and it is amazing.

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Speaker 3: And what you just did is humble brag about the

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Speaker 3: fact that you've still got your eighteen year old body.

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Speaker 23: I've got a pair of trousers I bought when I

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Speaker 23: was eighteen and I still wear.

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Speaker 5: He talks about the suit all the time.

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00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 23: It's a beautiful seat though, wasn't it?

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00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, sure, what do you think about this?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So a lot of people don't realize that Darcy

1108
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: on a Friday, only in winter, only in winter, has

1109
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 3: formal So the rest of the time you turn up

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00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: in all kinds of weird outfits and then on a

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00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 3: Friday in a suit. What's up with the sky?

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00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: No?

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00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 20: I like it.

1114
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Speaker 7: I like it.

1115
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 5: Look.

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00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 19: Winter is drab, and it is wet, and it is dark.

1117
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 19: And what Darcy does provides a bit of spark in

1118
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 19: the news and you can tell he's walking in and

1119
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 19: he knows he looks good and and he's feeling himself

1120
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 19: a week but and it just provides a little spark

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Speaker 19: in the newsroom.

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Speaker 5: And I don't mind it. I don't commit to it,

1123
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 5: but I just turned.

1124
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Speaker 3: But this level of enthusiasm from Nathan for you.

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Speaker 23: He's an enthusiastic human being. I do believe he's coming

1126
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 23: to get my job.

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00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 5: He's that good. So he's got to be nice to me.

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Speaker 3: Let's give it a home. Then, dars is more on

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00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: a pacifica dead.

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Speaker 23: It doesn't look good unless someone comes in from the

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00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 23: outside and signs a big check, or unless World Rugby

1132
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 23: finally realize that it's not up to wins Are to

1133
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 23: look after South Pacific rugby. It's actually up to World Rugby.

1134
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 23: When you consider all of those PACIFICA players that are

1135
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 23: playing over in England and Wales and has Gone and

1136
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 23: everybody else, Like Stopper, they play the best brand of rugby.

1137
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 23: It's big, strong, fast.

1138
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Speaker 3: We need to say it's not a New Zealand rugby

1139
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 3: problem because New Zealand Rugby and Rugby Australia owned the

1140
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 3: Super Rugby competition that makes the broadcast money. So isn't

1141
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 3: it on them actually to disupport one of the best

1142
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: stories in this competition only.

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Speaker 23: To a degree because it's about using that power to

1144
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 23: help with the someone and the tongue and rugby. So

1145
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 23: they can't take everything onboard. They've got no money anyway,

1146
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 23: have they. So yeah, they need to be engaged and

1147
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 23: involved in this and they're doing what they're doing, but

1148
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 23: I think World Rugby needs to look deeply at what

1149
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 23: they're doing for the lesser nations.

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Speaker 19: It definitely World Rugby needs to come in and help.

1151
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 19: But we have to be clear about the fact that

1152
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 19: if Moana Pacifica were to fall over, it would be

1153
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 19: an unmitigated pr disaster because the rebels fell over last year.

1154
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 19: We can't have two franchises go down in two years.

1155
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 19: And what was the story of Super Rugby this year.

1156
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 19: It wasn't the Crusaders winning another title. It was Ardie

1157
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 19: Savia and it was Mona Pacifica having their best pace. Well, see,

1158
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 19: it's going to be a combination right into it. And

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00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 19: ra have a revenue sharing agreement and Super Rugby does

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00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 19: fall on them. There is an independent judicial that sort

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Speaker 19: of overlooks it, but it does also those two unions

1162
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 19: bear a lot of responsibility. Win A Pacificer have eyeballs

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00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 19: on them. They increase these social media following on platforms

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Speaker 19: by over one hundred and fifty thousand. This year they

1165
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 19: had forty eight thousand people turning up to their games.

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00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 19: There are eyeballs on this franchise, which makes it effort, yes, exactly,

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00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 19: which makes it an investment opportunity and a business opportunity.

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00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 19: I'm going to go out there and say I wouldn't

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Speaker 19: mind my taxpayer money be used to help keep from

1170
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 19: the flight. Okay, you know you know how many you

1171
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 19: know how many you know how much government money goes

1172
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 19: into projects that just ended up being hoped. There's been roadwords,

1173
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 19: roadworks on the road where I live for the past

1174
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 19: eight months. I don't know anything about make it tip line.

1175
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 19: I know much about roads, but it cannot possibly be

1176
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 19: taking that long. So whatever money of mine is going

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Speaker 19: into that, put it into my winder. Because this is

1178
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 19: a good news story and it's making people happy.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to come back again and we say, just

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00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: because you're seeing bad, bad use of taxpayer money, doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean we have to have more bad use of taxpayer money.

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Speaker 3: And if we're put it into more one Apacifica because

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00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: they're struggling, should we also put it into the hurricanes

1184
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 3: because they're struggling in the hurricanes.

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Speaker 19: If the hurricanes were about to fall over, would we

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Speaker 19: be having the same conversation, Because I think a lot

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00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 19: of people would come out and be like, no, we

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Speaker 19: need to do whatever we can to keep the hurricanes afloat.

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Speaker 3: I think it's not that far all. It's not outside

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Speaker 3: the realms of imagination that some of the other squads

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Speaker 3: also come close to falling over.

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Speaker 23: The important thing here is what's happen behind the scenes,

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Speaker 23: though this is the effect it's going to have on

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Speaker 23: the pacifica community and the rugby players, which is one thing.

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00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 23: The other side of it, what is actually going on financially,

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Speaker 23: That is the interesting thing. How many conflicts of interest

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Speaker 23: are involved in there, with the way the money streams

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Speaker 23: through and goes from one organization from the government to

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Speaker 23: another organization and then suddenly owns the team that's got

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Speaker 23: to be opened up. And we have to let a

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Speaker 23: look at that, because that's important. I'm not saying there's bad, bad,

1202
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Speaker 23: bad habits going on there, or there's something untoward, but

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Speaker 23: I think we need to look. If you're financing that

1204
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 23: much trouble and you're losing millions of dollars, mate, you

1205
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 23: go look at this. You can't hide under the blanket,

1206
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 23: go someone bails out, find out what the root of

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Speaker 23: the problem is, right, So.

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Speaker 3: Listen on that though. I mean, at the heart of this, Nathan,

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Speaker 3: the problem is that we've actually got a super rugby

1210
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: competition that is struggling, right, And if you look at

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Speaker 3: the audience numbers, this is just broadcast, not bad, but

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Speaker 3: not lifted from last year, is it.

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 19: I think it's really easy to go look at two

1215
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 19: numbers and be like, oh, okay, the number's gone down,

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00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 19: so that's bad. Or the numbers the same as it

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00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 19: was last year, so it's stagnant. Like Okay, TV viewers

1218
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 19: have gone down, yeah, one hundred percent lest people are

1219
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 19: watching TV, right, but streaming viewers are up. The amount

1220
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Speaker 19: of digital content being consumed is up. Eighty thousand more

1221
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 19: people watch the Super Aguar Final this year, skoty go.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're not counting that as part of the

1223
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 3: broadcast viewership.

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Speaker 19: The full package, sure, but like people are consuming content

1225
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 19: in different ways. They're not necessarily watching the game live.

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00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 19: They're watching highlights packages afterwards, they're watching analysis videos, watching

1227
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Speaker 19: content on tech talk and that sort of thing up.

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Speaker 19: And well, I'll tell you I'm on those platforms all

1229
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Speaker 19: the time, and the amount of engagement on Super Rugby

1230
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 19: content is really up there. There are constantly people arguing

1231
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 19: in the comments about who should be playing for what team,

1232
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 19: who's team's the best, And for all the talk about

1233
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 19: rugby's dying, it's going out the window. I can see

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Speaker 19: the passion in the people who are using.

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Speaker 3: Those question is how you monetize it, right, because that's

1236
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 3: the problem is how do you get those people who

1237
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: are having the fight on X to actually pay you

1238
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: some money for your content.

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Speaker 23: I thing what Nathan's touching on as well, and he

1240
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 23: talks about it because he's of that generation. How much

1241
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 23: times he spends on social media and all of these

1242
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 23: platforms to see that that's the future. The future is

1243
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 23: not analog television and old Bugger's liking and he's sitting

1244
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 23: down on a Friday night at seven o'clock and watch

1245
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 23: and we're not the future. The future is the youth.

1246
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 23: And I think that Super Rugby Pacific have climbed into that.

1247
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 23: They understand that and they're trying to plow forward in

1248
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 23: that sense, and that's the only way forward.

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Speaker 3: Is Okay, guys, let's take a break. Come back very

1250
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: shortly sixteen away from six.

1251
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Speaker 1: The Friday sports HITDLE with New Zealand South of E's

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Speaker 1: International Realty, the ones with local and global reach.

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Speaker 3: Right you back of the sports Hitdle, we have got

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Speaker 3: Darcy Wadgrave, Nathan Lym. Nathan, do you think that the

1255
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 3: cricket fans have got a reason to be reasonably upset

1256
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: about the schedule this summer?

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Speaker 19: I think they've got a reason to be disappointed. Like

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00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 19: the height of summer is January and February right. To

1259
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,959
Speaker 19: have no home cricket during those two months is disappointing.

1260
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Speaker 19: Having said that, I really do think that New Zealand

1261
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Speaker 19: cricket has done the best with what they have. There

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00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 19: is a T twenty World Cup in February, right, the

1263
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 19: world doesn't stop so that we can have a good

1264
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 19: summer and January. The really is the bigause of the

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00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 19: Black Caps are so much better now than they used

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00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 19: to be, you know, fifteen years ago, is we're a

1267
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 19: much more attractive opposition and that means that teams come

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00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 19: to us, but it also means that we have to

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00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 19: tour them. And it just so happens that a couple

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00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 19: of years in a row we have had to tour.

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Speaker 19: During January, we're going to be touring India events. So

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Speaker 19: I would love to have test cricket all the way

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00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 19: through January and February. It's part of New Zealand culture.

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Speaker 5: I see it.

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Speaker 19: And it's disappointing that there is only three tests and

1276
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 19: they are in December. But the reality is T twenty

1277
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 19: is what makes money. And before you were used to

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00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 19: scheduling tests and you put odo cricket T twenty in

1279
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 19: around the test. Now it's the other way around, and

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00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 19: they've done well to secure the three tests we do have.

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00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 5: It just kind of is what it is.

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Speaker 23: Follow the money, that's what it is. And as you

1283
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 23: point it out in Eathan, I think the fact that

1284
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 23: New Zealand cricket have been so flexible in the last

1285
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 23: few years around what the dominant force in world cricket

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00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 23: is and where the money comes from, they should be

1287
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 23: applauding for that. They've shown themselves to have enormous elasticity

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00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 23: if you will, around that space. And that's the same

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00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 23: with the contracts as well and letting guys go and play.

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Speaker 23: You can't stop this happening. You can't put again head

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00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 23: in the sand and I hope it goes away.

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Speaker 3: Awesome For us in the stars is that we need

1293
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 3: to start watching a little bit more domestic cricket and

1294
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: being interested in what's going on domestically, because you can't

1295
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 3: just fly on the national squads.

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Speaker 23: Well I watched domestic cricket, but that's tim a cricket,

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Speaker 23: So yeah, what it is and we don't know and

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Speaker 23: that of course the dime sick T twenty and the

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00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 23: like that is all moving on to help players get

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00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 23: into a position that they can play at the national

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00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 23: level and then they can get flogged by some pirate.

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Speaker 3: Mercenary tea league money for themselves as a professional. Dallan

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00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: waen is a lesliek Nathan. Is he a loss or

1304
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: will the Warriors do what they do which as they

1305
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: step up and they make you go? Dallan who he

1306
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 3: is a loss?

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Speaker 19: But it is something the Warriors will be able to

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00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 19: manage the course he's coming into the side. He's He's

1309
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 19: scored two tries last weekend in the New Southwest Cup

1310
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 19: Sides went against Penny.

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00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 23: Dallan hasn't been great since he's come back from injury.

1312
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 23: He was out for ten weeks with that injury and

1313
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 23: he's come back and he's been jagging inside. He's not

1314
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 23: been making again. Will on time, No no, no no,

1315
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 23: but he will.

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Speaker 3: He's not.

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00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 23: They won't miss him as much because of his input

1318
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 23: hasn't been as great as we know it could be.

1319
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 5: He will warm into it.

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Speaker 4: We know this.

1321
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Speaker 23: I'm just saying it.

1322
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 19: The Warriors defense down there at each has been vulnerable.

1323
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 19: That's where teams have been scoring try on Down's edge.

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Speaker 19: I don't think this has all been downs for I

1325
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 19: like people like to bag down and say, oh he

1326
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Speaker 19: comes in office, and he does from time to time,

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01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 19: but I think there has been issues with the center

1328
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 19: position inside in the defensive positioning before that. I don't

1329
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 19: think it's all on him. But having said that, given

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Speaker 19: Down's position and the other players that the Warriors have

1331
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 19: at their disposal, taint to a peak. He played so

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01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 19: well earlier this year and he's waiting in the wings

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01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 19: as well, so I think the Warriors will be able

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01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 19: to manage this pretty well. The bigger question is is

1335
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Speaker 19: managing the whole left by captain Mitch Barnett. Obviously he

1336
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 19: ruled out for the season a couple of weeks ago,

1337
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 19: so for me, that's still the bigger deal.

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Speaker 3: Okay, do we beat the Broncos?

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01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, we beat the Broncos.

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Speaker 23: Did you know that seln Cobo one of their best players,

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01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 23: he's not been playing, which is having been a ruckus

1342
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 23: with him. He's actually joining the Dolphins just as well.

1343
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 23: So they have got a phenomenal, phenomenal back line. Now

1344
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 23: they've also got a couple of mean ass forwards. They're

1345
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 23: playing at home and do you remember Nathan when the

1346
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 23: Bulldogs were unbeatable and they went to Brisbane and they

1347
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 23: got embarrassed. They've got the potential, they've got the potential

1348
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 23: to floggers. But I think the embarrassment of last week,

1349
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 23: the punch in the nose they got from Benbers. This

1350
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 23: is a worries teammate, dude. That was shameful and they'll

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Speaker 23: come back all right.

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Speaker 3: You want to put the tax payer money, Nathan into

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Speaker 3: I told you Auckland City instead.

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Speaker 19: Look look Auckland City are they are going to get

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 19: some prize money from how well they've done it? Are

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Speaker 19: they going to get We don't know, because the prize

1357
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 19: pool is decided. There's a pool of it and then

1358
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 19: it shared out depending on where you finished in the competition,

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01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,479
Speaker 19: in the whole tournament. Now, Auckland City FC is currently

1360
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 19: engaged in a legal dispute with New Zealand Football over

1361
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 19: how their portion of the money is going to be

1362
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 19: divvied up. So Auckland City FC they want to actually

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01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 19: put it into a I was talking to their chairman

1364
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 19: earlier this week and they want to put it into

1365
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 19: a community project. That's what they want to use some

1366
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 19: of their money for. They obviously want to give the

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01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 19: players a bit more and you'd think that given their success,

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01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 19: what they've been able to do, they should be able

1369
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 19: to decide where that money goes. Having said that, do

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01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 19: you raise the question, okay, do we start pouring money

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01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 19: into the National League.

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Speaker 4: Money?

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Speaker 19: Is this result going to make everyone watch the National League?

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01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 19: I don't think so, because football fans are going to

1375
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 19: watch Aukland f C. And they're going to watch the

1376
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Speaker 19: Wellington Phoenix instead.

1377
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 5: Probably.

1379
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Speaker 3: How good was Aukland City.

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Speaker 23: Darcy well going from shipping ten goals in the first

1381
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 23: match to six and the second to drawing one of

1382
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 23: the best teams in the world. That that is epic

1383
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 23: and they can never have that removed from regardless climbers

1384
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 23: and real estate agents and jimmies and whatever else and

1385
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 23: like a genius hull mud too good.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thank you so much, really appreciate it. Nathan Limb,

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZIBBI, Sportsport of Darcy water Grave, Sports Talk Hoost.

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Speaker 3: It's eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplassy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by News Talk ZBI.

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Speaker 3: Hither the problem is with super rugby is that the

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01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 3: players are pay too much compared to the revenue that

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01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 3: has actually bang on. Players have paid huge amounts hither

1394
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 3: I entered the three road cone violations into the system

1395
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 3: under your name. I wondered who that was, because three

1396
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 3: of them came through last night. This is from Colin

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01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 3: Harttepeh Lake Taupo entire straight, two lanes of cones and

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01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 3: four cone trucks and one small truck working well. Actually, Colin,

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01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 3: I've already got a response from Downer, so here we go.

1400
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 3: Let me read it to you like your chat GPT person.

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01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 3: Good morning, Heather slash Colin. We now find out thank

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01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 3: you for reaching out with your concerns about excessive road

1403
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 3: cones at heart tepep. We wanted to let you know

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01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 3: that these road cones may seem excessive, However, they are

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01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 3: put in place to protect the safety of our staff

1406
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 3: working on site because unfortunately, not all members of the

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01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 3: public adhere to the roadworks site speed limits. Good news, though,

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01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 3: our crew hope to complete their Colvit cleaning by five today,

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01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 3: so it should be done fifty six minutes ago, Colin.

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01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: If you go past it again, it should be okay.

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01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: When the site will be closed, all road cones will

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01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 3: be removed, However, if they don't get every r However,

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01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 3: if they don't get everything completed today. Please note they'll

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01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 3: be back on site again Monday for a while. Sorry,

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01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 3: Colin Kelly's let us down on that one. Anyway, You've

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01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 3: keep those road cone tips flooding and keep them busy.

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01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 3: Why not make the most of it, By the way,

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01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 3: really quickly. They are digging up at the moment. The

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01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: research is what they think is the world's oldest farming settlement,

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01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 3: and it turns out it turns out it was run

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01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 3: by women, not by men, which upends the assumption that

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01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 3: early agricultural settlements were ruled by men. This is a

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01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 3: village in Turkey. It's about eight and a half thousand

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01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 3: years old. We know that women were the most important

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01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 3: because girls who died were adorned with more elaborate burial

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01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 3: offerings than boys, about five times more gear, and females

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01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 3: usually remained connected to their household while males moved away.

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01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 3: So what it suggests is that the husbands were forced

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01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: to relocate to their wife's household when they were married.

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01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: As it should be. I've told you women, aren't We

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01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 3: are the born rulers, we are bossy, we are intelligent,

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01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 3: and also we're the ones stay at home. Therefore we

1433
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: can sit there and plot and tell you what to do.

1434
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: We designate and you do. This is how it should

1435
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: be as in the old days in Turkey. This business

1436
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 3: with the patriarchy is just a modern it's just a

1437
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 3: recent thing. We'll get rid of it. Don't worry about it.

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01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 3: Murray Crane with us Next News Talks edb CLO.

1439
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 16: Stay oh, I get in with m.

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Speaker 2: Where business meets insight.

1441
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Speaker 1: The Business Hour, it's with Hinder Dupless, Ellen and Mayors,

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Speaker 2: Wealth, protect your future, Newstalk SAIDB.

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Speaker 3: Evening. Coming up for the next hour, two weeks to

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01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 3: go before Trump's trade deadline expires, will chat with Peter

1446
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 3: Lewis about it. Thomas Coglan will wrap the political week

1447
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 3: that was, and Gavin Gray's with us out of the

1448
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 3: UK at seven past six. Now not everyone is down

1449
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: about the future of Auckland CBD well known Taylor Crane

1450
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: Brothers has been a fixture on High Street for twenty

1451
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 3: six years and so committed they've just signed for another

1452
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 3: twenty five years now. Murray Crane is the man behind

1453
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:58,439
Speaker 3: Crane Brothers.

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Speaker 5: Hi Murray, Hi head, how are you this evening?

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01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you? So what is it that

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01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: you're seeing in the CBD that others may be on't.

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01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 2: Well.

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01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 21: I think it definitely helps that I'm pretty close to

1459
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 21: being here every day, so it is my daily kind

1460
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 21: of commute to get here in the morning and be

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01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 21: here most of the day. So I definitely see a

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01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 21: lot of people with businesses who are seeing positive growth

1463
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 21: and are trying new things, and there's a return to

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01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 21: people coming back. I think, you know, Covid really did

1465
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 21: knock the CBD for SIS, and on top of that,

1466
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 21: we had a lot of people working from home and

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01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 21: the numbers of the number of people coming into the

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01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 21: city reduced dramatically. But we're definitely seeing that tide turning

1469
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 21: reasonably slowly, but it is turning that all the numbers

1470
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 21: seem to be pointing in the right direction, which is great.

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01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 21: And in particularly where we are in high stre we're

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01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 21: seeing tendencies being refilled and lease is being fined and

1473
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 21: people looking for space. So it feels like we're definitely

1474
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 21: on the front flop, right.

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Speaker 3: That's good to hear. And I know you've been pretty

1476
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 3: positive actually because you you I've been getting text on

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01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 3: the show from you a fair bit actually calling us

1478
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 3: out for being too negative about the CBD. So all

1479
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 3: of that, do you think that the stuff that the

1480
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 3: kind of the general narrative about there being too much

1481
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 3: crime and too many too many you know, I guess

1482
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 3: troublemakers in the CBD, and it can too many road cones,

1483
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 3: not enough for traffic. All of that is kind of

1484
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 3: is not true story, Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 21: I wouldn't say it's not a true story, but I

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01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 21: would say that I don't think it's any worse than

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Speaker 21: any other anywhere else in the world, and probably not

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Speaker 21: as bad as any other part of New Zealand, given

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Speaker 21: if you look at the spread of crime. I mean,

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Speaker 21: it is a large, bustling CBD, and I think some

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01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 21: of that narratives kind of a selfisforling prophecy. You know,

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01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 21: she kind of keept saying that things are bad. You

1493
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 21: just believe that they are bad. I mean, it's not perfect,

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01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 21: but I think there's definitely been a large reduction in

1495
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 21: crime and a large reduction in just general kind of

1496
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 21: unrest in the city. As parts of the city begin

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01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 21: to kind of flourish and become active again. What we

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01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 21: tend to find with rough leapers and vagrancy is that

1499
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 21: they they really don't want to be around areas where

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01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 21: there's lots of people. They tend to want to go

1501
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 21: to parts of the city that are very quiet and

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01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 21: they can kind of be.

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01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 3: Left alone, basically them out.

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01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 21: Yeah, so as the city becomes busier, we're seeing we're

1505
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 21: seeing that move, which is why we're having these issues.

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01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 21: We've also had a big clamp down on retail crime

1507
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 21: and new market which has kind of pushed that element

1508
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 21: to others as as it's become as I've become more

1509
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 21: aware of what's happening there. So it's a bit of

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01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 21: a moving target, but I don't think it's ever going

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01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 21: to go away. However, well it's polaced and however busy

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Speaker 21: or quite when you go to a city like London

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Speaker 21: which is incredibly busy and incredibly bustling, and there's just

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Speaker 21: as much crime because because of the scare volume of people.

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Speaker 21: So you kind of damned if you do, and you're

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Speaker 21: dan if you don't.

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Speaker 3: Really, you guys are a store on Ponsonby Road, don't you, Yes,

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Speaker 3: we do. So did you see that piece that was

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Speaker 3: around earlier this week suggesting Ponsonby Road is possibly dying?

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Speaker 3: What do you think of that.

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Speaker 21: I think there's some there's definitely some truth in that,

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Speaker 21: having been up there now for a few years and

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Speaker 21: then having had stores there in the past as well,

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Speaker 21: and I think I think that's partly symptomatic of just

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Speaker 21: the changing demographic of Ponsonby as well house prices, the

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Speaker 21: aged people living there. It's it's definitely feels like it's

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Speaker 21: lost some of its edge and I think.

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Speaker 3: Is it becoming a bit baby?

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Speaker 21: There's a lot of empty spaces that's a land I

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Speaker 21: think there's a disconnection there with with what what the

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Speaker 21: people that live there want and what's available. Right there's

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Speaker 21: still some great stores.

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Speaker 3: Is the is the empty space is not a landlord problem?

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Speaker 14: Uh?

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Speaker 21: Well, our land world has been incredibly proactive with us so,

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Speaker 21: but he is. I mean they are quite a large

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Speaker 21: land land owner on Ponti Road, so they may be

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Speaker 21: in a slightly different positions of some other ones. I mean,

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Speaker 21: there's definitely pressure on land landlords the same way there

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01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 21: has been on house house buyers and house owners. They

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Speaker 21: have the same challenges the business owners as well, and

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Speaker 21: they have challenges with that. If they've got borrowing on

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01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 21: their buildings, they they need to be meeting their covenants.

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Speaker 21: I guess with the banks, so yes, it's challenging for everyone.

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Speaker 3: Murray listen, good to talk to you, Thank you, and

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Speaker 3: best of luck with the next twenty five years. It's

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Speaker 3: Murray Crane of Crane Brothers. By the Way, Big News

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Speaker 3: and Fashion, Anna Winter has stepped away as editor in

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Speaker 3: chief of American Vogue. Anna has. I mean, we've got

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Speaker 3: used to the idea of Anna being in charge of

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Speaker 3: everything fashion related and Anna being amazing, but actually, did

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Speaker 3: you know She's been there since nineteen ninety eight and

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Speaker 3: her first cover was really controversial because it had a

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Speaker 3: featured model, Mikaylabq Burq, wearing a very expensive sweater but

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Speaker 3: fifty dollars jeans, and it caused the stir and questions

1556
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Speaker 3: about what high fashion was, and everybody thought, work, We've

1557
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 3: made a mistake with the editor. Not a mistake in

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Speaker 3: the end was at thirteen past six.

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Speaker 3: Heard about the new boss of the British spies. I'm

1564
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 3: going to have to get you across that very shortly.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen past six. Now, let's wrap the political week that

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Speaker 3: was with The Herald's political editor Thomas Coglan. Welcome back, Thomas, Right, Heather, Thomas,

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Speaker 3: I mean read that you ran Israel situation and the

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Speaker 3: bombing of around. Our government's been walking a pretty fine

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Speaker 3: fine line here not endorsing anything. Is that going to

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Speaker 3: change once some evidence comes through?

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Speaker 17: I mean, if evidence comes through, I imagine you might.

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Speaker 17: We might be able to if the evidence supports the

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Speaker 17: US case, and there is you know, the Iranians do

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Speaker 17: have a nuclear program of a kind. If there's more

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Speaker 17: evidence that comes to light that shows how close they

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Speaker 17: were to making a bomb, then potentially you would see

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Speaker 17: US sign up to a more full throated defense of

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Speaker 17: the Americans, a bit like what the Australians did. The

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Speaker 17: Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong was pretty supportive of what

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Speaker 17: the Americans were doing. You know, whether we can get

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Speaker 17: that evidence, whether that evidence will come to light, I'm

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01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 17: pretty skeptical. It's a pretty difficult country to get into

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Speaker 17: Iran and any evidence that that the regime itself furnishes

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Speaker 17: as possibly well, it certainly won't support the Americans case.

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Speaker 17: So so I would I would think that the likeliest

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Speaker 17: scenario is that we kind of stay in this. I mean,

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Speaker 17: David Seymour says we're not sitting on the fence, but

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Speaker 17: I still think we are a wee bit sitting on

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Speaker 17: the fence, and I think we'll probably stay there for

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Speaker 17: the foreseable future.

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Speaker 3: But it's the kind of sitting on the fence that

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Speaker 3: is wise, isn't it, Because I mean, if you're going

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Speaker 3: to no one can no one can say with any certainty.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we all believe they were building a bomb,

1595
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Speaker 3: and they ought to have been building a bomb, but

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Speaker 3: no one can say it with certainty.

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Speaker 17: Yes, that the Uranians were enriching uranium. Look, I I

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Speaker 17: do not know much about building nuclear bombs. You'll be

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Speaker 17: relieved to know. But but the Uranians were. It seems

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Speaker 17: you're enriching uranium to the to the to a level

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Speaker 17: that that would make it, you know, plausible that the

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01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 17: end goal was was this or was it was a

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Speaker 17: nuclear bomb?

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Speaker 9: You know?

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Speaker 17: But but but again connecting the dots and going going

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Speaker 17: that that distance to actually saying this is what was that?

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Speaker 5: What this is what was going on?

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Speaker 17: I mean that would that would be very very difficult

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Speaker 17: to prove, so and and and for that reason, you know,

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01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 17: there's no benefit in the in the government full throatedly

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01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 17: defending the Americans, nor is there much benefit trade wise

1612
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Speaker 17: and internationally, you know, going all out criticizing the Americans. Either,

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Speaker 17: we're taking that classic New Zealand foreign policy strategy of

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01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 17: putting AIDS down and hoping no one knows.

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Speaker 3: Ye and lucky after that we can do that. Hey,

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Speaker 3: why was it that none of the other P four

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Speaker 3: leaders were at NATO with Luxeen.

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Speaker 17: I think those in terms of the people are not going.

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Speaker 17: I think each country probably has its own reasons for that.

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Speaker 17: Anthony Alberanzi was overseas the Australian Prime Minister's overseas in

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01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 17: Canada at the G seven and that G seven meeting

1622
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Speaker 17: was just a wee bit too far before the NATO

1623
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Speaker 17: meeting for him to conceivably do both at the same time.

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Speaker 17: It would have been out of the country for a

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Speaker 17: bit too too long. The Australians have some I think

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Speaker 17: they call him the ear elbow or something got some

1627
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 17: some mean nickname about Anthony Albanesi for the amount of

1628
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Speaker 17: time that he's spent flying in his first term. So

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Speaker 17: Anthony Albanesi is very keen to make sure that he

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Speaker 17: doesn't spend too much time overseas in the second term.

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Speaker 17: So I think I think it's a domestic reason mainly

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Speaker 17: why they why they didn't go for lux And I mean,

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Speaker 17: I can see why we go to NATO every years.

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Speaker 17: We're not a member of NATO. We've been going every

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Speaker 17: year since twenty twenty two. But it's a good it's

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Speaker 17: a good one for us to go to because so

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Speaker 17: many powerful countries are the year, Like it's not any

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Speaker 17: chance you get to maybe see the US president rub

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Speaker 17: shovelers with the US President at dinner. What's worth getting

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Speaker 17: on a plane for that?

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Speaker 3: Totally? Now, when are we likely to have a by

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Speaker 3: election in Thomaki Makoto.

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Speaker 17: I actually don't know how how soon this says it

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01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 17: would be in the next few months, so that the

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01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,600
Speaker 17: passing of the death of Takata tash Kemp needs to

1646
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 17: be gauzetted, then the speaker that's speaking gazette it and

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Speaker 17: then the Prime Minister sits a date. I haven't heard

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Speaker 17: anything about when that date would be, but it'd be

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Speaker 17: in the next in the next few months.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if there is, you know, it's it's it's

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Speaker 3: obviously a terrible thing to lose somebody, especially somebody as

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Speaker 3: young as the MP. But if there was something good

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Speaker 3: that came out of it, it was a reminder that

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Speaker 3: that the people do not always need to fight in Parliament, right,

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Speaker 3: and that for all of the superficial fighting that goes

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Speaker 3: on there is there is a level of humanity across Parliament,

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Speaker 3: and to such an extent it even seemed to have

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Speaker 3: surprised Willy Jackson.

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Speaker 17: Did you notice that, Yeah, yeah, I mean Willie Jackson

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Speaker 17: had had a great speech in the House yesterday talking

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Speaker 17: about the fact that you know, in politics, particularly Malordi politics,

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Speaker 17: it's pretty common to go hammer and tongs in the

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Speaker 17: house and hammer and tongues on the hustings. But then

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Speaker 17: when you're done, you go and have a cup of

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Speaker 17: tea and a sandwich at the Mudai and and and

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Speaker 17: you know, see the common interests that you share and

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Speaker 17: and and get along get along together as people. And

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Speaker 17: you definitely saw that yesterday. I mean, particularly like what

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Speaker 17: obviously the labor labor and green and peace, paid tribute

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01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 17: to uh To Taka tai. But but but but it

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Speaker 17: was also the opposition that sorry the government MPs. You

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Speaker 17: saw Shane Jones, who has been incredibly critical of to party,

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01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 17: my singing a very beautiful wiat and say some very

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Speaker 17: moving words about you know, mortality, and then even David Seymour,

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Speaker 17: who was acting Prime Minister. You know, David Seymour was

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Speaker 17: one of the most significant speeches, the most senior person

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Speaker 17: in the chamber speaking. He was very moving too, talking

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Speaker 17: about you know, the shared humanity of all MPs.

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Speaker 3: Thomas, listen, thank you was always appreciated. Thomas Coglan, the

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Speaker 3: Herald's political editor, rapping the political week that was for us. Heather,

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Speaker 3: I'm a microbiologist. I'm afraid you are incorrect both colds

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Speaker 3: and flus of viruses, which is why you can't treat

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Speaker 3: them with antibiotics.

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Speaker 18: Bucker.

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Speaker 3: The cold was a bacteria for so long, and I've

1686
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 3: been telling everybody this I'm wrong. Don't listen to me,

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Speaker 3: Listen to Allison Allison. I will note it's not only

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Speaker 3: a microbiologist, pro probably an old lady as well. Six

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Speaker 3: twenty two.

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Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather do for c Ellen and

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Speaker 1: Mair's insurance and grow your wealth, protect your future news

1693
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Speaker 1: talks dead.

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Speaker 3: Be Heather say sorry, Steve, you were right from Steve.

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01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 3: Sorry Steve, you were in fact right. Should stop saying

1696
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Speaker 3: things that I haven't actually researched before it comes out

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Speaker 3: of my mouth. I apologize, Okay. So here's here's the

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Speaker 3: update on the head of MI SX. Remember how the

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Speaker 3: new head of mix as a lady for the first

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Speaker 3: time ever. Well, it turns out her grandfather was a

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Speaker 3: Nazi spy. He was known as the Butcher. He was

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Speaker 3: Agent number thirty. He was Ukrainian. He defected from the

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Speaker 3: Red Army to help Hitler because he was cross with

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Speaker 3: Russia because Russia had killed his family and seized their

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Speaker 3: estate in the Revolution of nineteen seventeen. So, I mean,

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Speaker 3: it does kind of somewhat blunt the story, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: It's not as if he defected from the good guys

1708
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 3: to the bad guys as in the UK to the Nazis.

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Speaker 3: He defected from the bad guys to some other bad

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01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 3: guys you can choose which is worse. At one point,

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Speaker 3: the Soviet Union put a head on a bounty on

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Speaker 3: a head of fifty thousand rubles, which is about two

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand pounds. Now it's a fair amount of money,

1714
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Speaker 3: and called them the worst enemy of the Ukrainian people.

1715
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Speaker 3: She can there's plausible deniability. She never met her grandfather.

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Speaker 3: Six twenty six got your show biz news for today.

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Speaker 3: It's a goodie if you have been desperate to get

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Speaker 3: your hands on Meghan's jam or flower sprinkles. I'm sorry

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Speaker 3: to be the bearer of bad news, but you've missed

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Speaker 3: out again because Meghan has restocked her products this week

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Speaker 3: because the last batch sold out almost instantly. But I'm

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Speaker 3: devastated to tell you the second batch has also sold

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Speaker 3: out instantly again, and not even Meghan could believe it.

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Speaker 24: We spent so much time making sure we had so

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01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 24: much more inventory. That's why we took the time, and

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Speaker 24: you guys are doing it again. We're nearly sold out

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01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 24: on everything and I can't believe it. Even Flower Sprinkles,

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01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 24: which I knew was going to be the big one again,

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01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 24: so that has more inventory than all of it, and

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01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 24: that's also about to sell out.

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Speaker 3: And it's already sold out. Since she recorded that fantastic video.

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Speaker 3: There is hope though She's announced a new product for

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Speaker 3: her as ever line. It's whine. It is a Napa

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Speaker 3: Valley rose. Chances are it's not going to be great

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01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 3: because when people who are not wine people start trying

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Speaker 3: to make wine, it generally is just so awful. But

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Speaker 3: it is going to be pricey. We don't know what

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01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 3: the rose costs, but the Apricot jam was fifteen bucks.

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01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 3: The flower sprinkles were twenty five bucks. So you know

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01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 3: the wine's going to be up there. It's going to

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Speaker 3: go on sale July July one. That's next Tuesday, not

1742
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 3: any old day because that would have been Princess Diana's

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01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 3: sixty fourth birthday and also the day that Harry first

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Speaker 3: messaged Meghan.

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Speaker 17: Yeay.

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Speaker 25: Peter lewis next to talk about, not Meghan, new stalk

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01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 25: Staus for a new person.

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Speaker 1: Over again, crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's

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Speaker 1: heathered to for Sea Ellen with the Business Hour and

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01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: mass insurance and investments, Grow your wealth, protect your future,

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01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: Please talk send me.

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Speaker 20: Won't you?

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Speaker 3: And you've got Davin Gray out of the UK shortly.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of good news on consumer confidence. It's

1755
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 3: on the app am Z Roy Morgan Consumer Confidence Survey

1756
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 3: says it's lifted six points to ninety eight point eight

1757
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 3: in June. Now that's a welcome change because it's a

1758
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 3: dropped last month. It's a little bit soft in some

1759
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 3: core areas though, proportion of households who think it's a

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Speaker 3: good time to buy a major household appliance negative seven.

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Speaker 3: Inflation experts expectations are up again to the highest level

1762
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 3: in two years. Sharon's on this says the economy is recovering,

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Speaker 3: just taking a little bit longer than expected right now

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Speaker 3: twenty four away from seven. And Peter Lewis is our

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Speaker 3: Asia business correspondent with US out of Hong Kong.

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Speaker 2: Peter, Good evening, Heather.

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Speaker 3: I see some analysts reckon that that China's limited role

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01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 3: in the Israel Iran conflict has exposed its limited leverage.

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Speaker 3: Would you agree.

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Speaker 2: In some ways it has.

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Speaker 26: China hasn't been able to do anything to help Iran

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Speaker 26: in this conflict. It did condemn both Israel and the

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Speaker 26: US for the attacks on Iran. And that's despite the

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Speaker 26: fact that Iran and China did sign a cooperation agreement

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Speaker 26: back in twenty twenty one, a twenty five year Cooperation Agreement.

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Speaker 26: One of the parts of that was that China will

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Speaker 26: be able to buy cheap oil off of Iran and

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01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 26: about a twelve percent discount to the prevailing market rates.

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Speaker 26: But really China is not a very good mediator in conflicts.

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Speaker 26: We've seen that in the past. It hasn't been able

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01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 26: to do much, for example in the Ukraine conflict. And

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Speaker 26: also it has this policy of non interference. It likes

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01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 26: to do development projects like the Belton Road Initiative, offer

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Speaker 26: loans to countries in the Global South, in emerging markets.

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Speaker 26: But it makes a point of saying we're not like America.

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Speaker 26: We don't get involved in your internal affairs, we don't

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Speaker 26: call for political change, we don't get involved in wars.

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Speaker 26: But what this has highlighted is two particular things where

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01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 26: China is now thinking it might be vulnerable. The first

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Speaker 26: one is on energy security and how reliant it is

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Speaker 26: on Iran for oil and the Middle Easter in general,

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Speaker 26: and it's going to have to think really about trying

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Speaker 26: to diversify more. It's energy security. There's been a talk

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Speaker 26: going on for years now about building a pipeline between

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01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 26: China and Russia, and maybe China will need to rethink

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Speaker 26: that and maybe think about perhaps speeding that up and

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Speaker 26: seeing if that project can get off the ground. The

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Speaker 26: other thing that really this has highlighted and China is

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Speaker 26: having a big rethink over is Taiwan. And China had

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Speaker 26: really assumed that if there was a conflict over Taiwan

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Speaker 26: that maybe America Donald Trump wouldn't want to get involved

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Speaker 26: in that. You know, his relationships are very transactional and

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Speaker 26: he wouldn't intervene in anything to do with Taiwan. And

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01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 26: in fact, one of the things that was going on

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01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 26: in the financial markets was what is known as the

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01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 26: Taco trade. Trump always chickens out, in other words, whenever

1807
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 26: push comes to shove, he really doesn't follow through. Well,

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Speaker 26: this has been a shock to China because this time

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Speaker 26: in Iran he did follow through, and it's making them

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Speaker 26: completely rethink what he would do should there be any

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Speaker 26: moves on Taiwan. And this will be obviously a big

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Speaker 26: issue for China going forward.

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Speaker 3: Jeez, that's fascinating because that is the opposite of what

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01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 3: we were predicting, right. We all thought, if he gets

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Speaker 3: himself tied up in Iran, the possibility that the strongest

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Speaker 3: possibility is the thing drags on, and it gives space

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Speaker 3: for countries like China to actually make moves while he's distracted.

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Speaker 3: But it's had the opposite effe, which is remarkable, isn't it.

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Speaker 26: Absolutely? I mean this is really in many ways, has

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Speaker 26: been a good week for Trump's foreign policy. You know,

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Speaker 26: he's got this success in Iran. He also got this

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Speaker 26: success with NATO wordy persuade, did all of the countries,

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01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,799
Speaker 26: with the exception of Spain, to increase their defense spending

1824
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Speaker 26: up to five percent. I mean, he must be really well.

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Speaker 26: He is really gloating at the moment, and it's not

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Speaker 26: what people would have predicted. You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fascinating. Now. Did you see, though, while while

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Speaker 3: we're celebrating what he's up to, did you see that

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Speaker 3: the White House has just said recently that July nine

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Speaker 3: is not a deadline that is now critical and it

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Speaker 3: may in fact be extended.

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Speaker 26: Yes, that's correct, and in fact, in following up from that,

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Speaker 26: we've just heard today Donald Trump is claiming that he

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Speaker 26: has signed the trade deal with China. Now we've had

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Speaker 26: no confirmation of that from China. There was a press

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Speaker 26: briefing that the Foreign Ministry did earlier on today and

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Speaker 26: they were asked specifically about that and they had nothing

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Speaker 26: to say. But he is saying that the deal, which

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Speaker 26: really implements that Geneva agreement where they agreed to take

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01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 26: tariffs off or reduce tarifts on each other. But that

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01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 26: sort of fell apart with misunderstandings over things like China's

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01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 26: sports of rare earths. The US put restrictions on things

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01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 26: like semiconductor sales to China. So we then had that

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01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 26: London agreement. Well both held. Lucknick, the Commons Secretary and

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01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 26: Trump himself are saying that has been signed, and what's more,

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01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 26: they're going to do ten other deals before this July

1847
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 26: to ninth deadline, which, as you correctly said, Katherine Levy

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01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 26: was saying just yesterday that wasn't a real deadline. It

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Speaker 26: could likely be pushed back.

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Speaker 21: Now.

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Speaker 26: We don't know who these ten deals are going to

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Speaker 26: be with, but I think you could assume Japan is

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Speaker 26: almost certainly one of them. India, whe you would think,

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01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 26: will be another one. The Japanese government has sent its

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Speaker 26: trade negotiator, now for the seventh time, over to Washington

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01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 26: to try and get some sort of deal. The sticking

1857
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 26: point is on Auto's Donald Trump wants to keep Tarott's

1858
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 26: twenty five percent tarrets on autos. This is a real

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01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 26: big issue for Japan because it's a huge part of

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Speaker 26: their economy and if they were to end up paying

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Speaker 26: those sorts of reciprocal tariffs that could well push the

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Speaker 26: Japanese economy into recession. So they're pushing back on that,

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01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 26: but so far no agreement. So we wait with baited

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01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 26: breath to see who these ten countries are. How Lucknik

1865
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 26: is saying they're on the verge of signing agreements with.

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Speaker 3: Citing day is always exciting with Trump and charge I

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01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 3: thank you, Peter, appreciated as always to talk to you

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Speaker 3: in a week. Peter lewis Asia Business correspondent.

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Speaker 2: Ever dol have you seen what's going.

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01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 3: On with these thieves stealing petrol from underground petrol fuel tanks.

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01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 3: It's happening apparently around the North Island, and it's happened

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01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 3: a couple of gas stations at least have spoken out

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01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 3: about it. There's a gas station in Northland and then

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01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 3: there's another petrol station unspecified what the brand is in Hamilton.

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01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 3: So the gas station is and is that Kaihu which

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01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 3: is about twenty three minutes away from Dargaville. Now they reckon,

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01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 3: they've been hit twice and they've lost two thousand liters.

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01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 3: And what's happening is that the thieves are pulling up

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01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 3: and they're parking up by the underground fuel points and

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01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 3: they're just helping themselves. And it's not clear how they're

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01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 3: doing that, but I would imagine it's a pretty standard siphoning,

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01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 3: and it sounds like they are just chucking the fuel

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01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 3: in the back of the ute or the back of

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01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 3: the car, So you're assuming it's a stock standard self

1885
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 3: siphoning into some sort of a you know, BYO canister.

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01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 3: Incredibly dangerous, as the petrol guys are saying, incredibly dangerous

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01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 3: because what's underground is about eighty to ninety thousand liters

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01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 3: of the good stuff, so if that goes up, it

1889
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 3: goes up. And then of course if you're hening around

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01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 3: with some cans of petrol in the back of the ute,

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Speaker 3: I hope you know what you're doing there as well. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: on one of the occasions that this gas station in

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01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,759
Speaker 3: Northland called the coppers, they say they called the coppers

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01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 3: while it was happening and the police told them no

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01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 3: one was coming, so she and her husband went out

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01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 3: and confronted the thieves themselves. Now I think that's interesting

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01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 3: because remember that we had the leaked memo recently and

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01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 3: it said, well, you know, we're not going to deal

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01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 3: with low level crime and if there's a petrol theft

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01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 3: of under one hundred and fifty dollars, we're just going

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01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 3: to file it. And came out and said, oh no,

1902
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,719
Speaker 3: that was no, Absolutely, that's not going to happen. Well,

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01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 3: judge for yourself, because it sounds like they may have

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01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 3: nicked a little bit more than one hundred and fifty

1905
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 3: dollars worth the petrol. Anyway, couple confronted the thieves, husband

1906
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 3: smashed the rear window of the car, but the thieves

1907
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 3: were able to flee the scene. So if you see

1908
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 3: some weird people loitering at a gas station in the

1909
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 3: middle of the night, just don't hang around. Get out

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01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 3: of there quickly, because I don't feel like these people

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01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 3: know what they're doing. Sixteen away from seven.

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01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro microbe or just plain economics, it's all

1913
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: on the business hours with Heather Duplicy, Ellen and Mares.

1914
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: Insurance and investments. Grow your wealth to protect your future use.

1915
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 2: Talks at me.

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01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 3: Hither do you mean don't go over and ask for

1917
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 3: a light? That's a good place to start, Bob, don't

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01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 3: don't don't go over and ask for a light, And

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01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 3: absolutely don't even go over in the first place, because

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01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 3: if it explodes, it's a big crater. I would imagine.

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Speaker 3: See they gone, you don't want to be gone with them?

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Speaker 3: Thirteen away from seven now Gavin Gray, UK correspondence with

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01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 3: us Elo Gavini. So what exactly the Palestinian supporters of

1924
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 3: the EU for.

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Speaker 11: Well, Israel and the EU have a massive set of

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01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 11: trading partnership. In fact, the European Union is Israel's biggest

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Speaker 11: trading partner, and what the protesters want is to suspend

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Speaker 11: the EU, to suspend that twenty five year old trading

1929
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Speaker 11: accord over Israel's actions in Gaza. And they're pointing to

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Speaker 11: a report that the EU themselves have authored which had

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Speaker 11: found that there were indications that Israel had breached human

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Speaker 11: rights obligations under the EU Israel Association Agreement. And so

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Speaker 11: at the European Union leaders summit, they were hoping that saying, look,

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Speaker 11: you commission this report. It has shown that there are

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Speaker 11: clear indications that there are human rights breaches here and

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Speaker 11: therefore you should suspend the trade agreement. However, I'm afraid

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Speaker 11: that the EU once again unable to come up with

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Speaker 11: this sort of decision that everyone agreed with. And although

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Speaker 11: the protesters have been backed by more than one hundred

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Speaker 11: non governmental organizations and charities, I'm afraid they are just

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Speaker 11: saying no, we're going to carry on the trading agreement.

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Speaker 11: We're going to look at this report a bit further

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Speaker 11: and see a bit more about what it says. Oxfod

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Speaker 11: for instance, based of course in the UK, saying every

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Speaker 11: red line has been crossed in Gaza, every rule has

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Speaker 11: been breached. It's high time the European Union acts. However,

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Speaker 11: it fell to the Foreign policy chief, Kayak Kalus to

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Speaker 11: explain that the European Union would do well, not a

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Speaker 11: great deal, saying she's first goal is to change the

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Speaker 11: situation on the ground in Gaza, believing that if they

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Speaker 11: stop the trade deal it'll actually make life worse for those.

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Speaker 2: On the ground.

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Speaker 3: Kevin I was fascinated by the fact that Kirstamer has

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Speaker 3: done a U turn on the benefits. Now, how damaging

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Speaker 3: is this to him? Personally?

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Speaker 11: Extremely damaging, So This is the third U turn this

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Speaker 11: government has done in the last two three months. And

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Speaker 11: let's not forget they aren't even one year old yet.

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Speaker 11: So the first U turn that they did was effectively

1960
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Speaker 11: a winter fuel payment cut for millions of pensioners. They

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Speaker 11: get a one off payment to help them with the

1962
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Speaker 11: winter fuel payments. The government you turned on that and

1963
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Speaker 11: said no, no, no, that won't now take place.

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Speaker 2: Then we heard that there was no.

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Speaker 11: Need to hold an inquiry into the grooming gangs where

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Speaker 11: many men of Asian or Pakistani descent have been found

1967
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Speaker 11: to be grooming young girls predominantly white in the UK.

1968
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Speaker 11: This led to so much ill feeling and they were

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Speaker 11: told no, we won't be holding an inquiry. All of

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Speaker 11: a sudden they are. And then we were told it's

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Speaker 11: essential because of the blooming. The burgeoning benefit bill here,

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Speaker 11: particularly for those of working age who should be at

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Speaker 11: work but say they're too ill to work, was massive

1974
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Speaker 11: and getting much too large. So they wanted to save

1975
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Speaker 11: about twelve billion new Ze dollars a year by the

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Speaker 11: year twenty thirty, and they were going to cut lots

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Speaker 11: of payments to lots of people. Guess what it now

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Speaker 11: looks like owing to a rebellion within his own parties.

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Speaker 11: Se Keir Starmer's done a complete U turn on that

1980
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Speaker 11: and said these reforms will only affect those who aren't

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Speaker 11: already claiming benefits, and that of course leads to a

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Speaker 11: two tier system. Those that are claiming it will receive

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Speaker 11: the money that they currently get. In future, however, you

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Speaker 11: might have exactly the same illness as somebody else but

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Speaker 11: not get the payment. So he's really getting himself into

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Speaker 11: hot water here, and he's seriously been weakened by roughly

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Speaker 11: one hundred and twenty of his own MPs despite having

1988
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Speaker 11: a massive majority in.

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Speaker 3: Parliamentkevin, good to talk to you. I really appreciate it, mate,

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Speaker 3: Devin Gray, UK correspondent, want to watch here? These youtunes

1991
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Speaker 3: are becoming embarrassing for Keir Stammer. Colin's got back to

1992
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Speaker 3: me on the road cone situation. So we've got a

1993
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Speaker 3: little I'm going to take Colin's side on this, okay,

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Speaker 3: So down a email Colin made the complaint about the

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Speaker 3: road cones Downer emails, but Colin put mine emen and

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01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 3: then down emailed and they were like, man, that was fine.

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Speaker 3: Actually there was there was a fair amount of road

1998
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Speaker 3: cones colinsays, Actually the issue was that there was only

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Speaker 3: one small truck doing the work. This is at hard

2000
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 3: Teppe by Taupo, only one small truck doing the work.

2001
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 3: Yet they had core coned off two lanes from hard

2002
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Speaker 3: Teppa up to the top of the plateau a few

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Speaker 3: k's long, including the passing lane cone off around the truck.

2004
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 3: But why kilometers of road? That's the issue where Colin,

2005
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 3: that is the issue we are fighting now. Downer, I'm

2006
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 3: not happy with your response because it seems to me

2007
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Speaker 3: part of the problem here is that companies like Downer

2008
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Speaker 3: actually think they're not road coning because they because they

2009
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 3: they well I don't really know. I thought that they

2010
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Speaker 3: were road coning because those were the dumb government rules.

2011
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Speaker 3: They were like, I hate putting these cones out. I

2012
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 3: wish they were not the rules. Actually, down is like,

2013
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Speaker 3: I love putting out these road cones. Let's have so

2014
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Speaker 3: many road cones. Because their response was it was totally fine.

2015
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Speaker 3: So no, Downer, it's not totally fine. We don't like it.

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Speaker 3: Stop it. Colin will keep complaining and I'll keep reading

2017
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Speaker 3: it out and saying your name on air, and that

2018
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Speaker 3: will suck for you. Eight away from seven it's the

2019
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Speaker 3: heather too.

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Speaker 1: For see allan Drive Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by newstalk Zebbi.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Lord's album. We haven't dealt with this properly. This

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01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 3: is basically a national thing that's happening, right because she's

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Speaker 3: like a national institution. So the whole country needs to

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01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 3: pay attention to this. Lord's new album has been out

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Speaker 3: for eighteen hours or should we say is it twenty

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Speaker 3: one hours?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 3: Almost? It's about twenty one hours, isn't it. We're just

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Speaker 3: adding we're just counting it really quickly. At a length

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Speaker 3: of about thirty five minutes. It means the die hard

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Speaker 3: fans may have listened to it possibly or nineteen hours,

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Speaker 3: so they've probably listened to it thirty two times.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: You know by now that nobody is as big a

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Speaker 3: fan as Sam Our producer. He took the day off

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Speaker 3: and this is not a joke. He took the day

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Speaker 3: off to listen to it, so we got him to send.

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Speaker 3: In his review, he says ten out of ten. Virgin

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Speaker 3: is a return to form for Alla. Her vocals are

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Speaker 3: some of the best they've been. Songwriting is a clear evolution,

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01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 3: and the girl we met at sixteen experimental production reaches

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01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 3: new limits. Blah blah blah, Clear Blue and David are

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01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 3: two major standouts. These are the songs Clear Boo. Blue

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01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 3: is an almost a cappella track with lyrics about wishing

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01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 3: you kept the negative pregnancy test from your last relationship

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01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 3: for something to hold on to like a souvenir. David

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01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 3: is a swelling epic about purging the last of your

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01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 3: emotions from a previous relationship. Overall, some of these songs

2050
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 3: going straight to the pool room next to her other

2051
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 3: timeless classics a massive effort. Rolling Stone four and a

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01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 3: half stars out of five. Guardian four out of five

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Speaker 3: times was harsh two out of five. Sam has since

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Speaker 3: followed up with an addendum to this to me to

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Speaker 3: tell me that there are a number of references that

2056
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 3: we Alla has made to her ex boyfriend in which

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01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 3: she suggests that he liked to spit in her mouth.

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Speaker 3: So there's that, and.

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Speaker 22: I mean, never break up with a music just don't

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01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 22: do it to be really nice to them.

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Speaker 3: They're going to tell this kind of thing to everybody

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Speaker 3: and now we know what you do.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 22: I also gave Sam mcau's well to ask what will

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01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 22: be a good one in the show with and he

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01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 22: reckon this one. It's called grown Woman, but you spell

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01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 22: at gr WM. I'll just sort of let that sit

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01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 22: speak for itself, Like the song is called gr WM,

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01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 22: but it's clearly grown Woman because of what the lyrics

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01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 22: and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, too clever for me, but I do get

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Speaker 3: it and get enjoy. See you, hey, enjoy your weekend.

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Speaker 3: Keep those road tips road cone tips coming through to

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01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 3: the tip line. Why not, I'll read them out now.

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Speaker 3: I'm enjoying this actually quite a lot. Weirdly, See you

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Speaker 3: on Monday.

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Speaker 27: Look after Yourself, Mama's arm streets Cool.

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Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to

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