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Speaker 1: What makes a playground great. Somebody who could answer that

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Speaker 1: is from a company named Plaqueo, the oldest builders of

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Speaker 1: them in New Zealand. For over forty years. They've been

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Speaker 1: putting in swings and slides, well over four thousands up

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Speaker 1: and down the country. Not too many forts arounds that

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have their name pressed on the side of it.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Archer is the general manager with play Co. It

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Speaker 1: was lucky enough to catch up with him and started

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Speaker 1: by asking how they bring an idea together and piece

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Speaker 1: it all together, and he said, well, it starts with

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Speaker 1: the sort of stuff that you want kids to be doing,

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Speaker 1: the sort of movements that you're wanting to elicit.

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Speaker 2: So play categories could be physical types of motion, so climbing, sliding, spinning, calling,

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Speaker 2: or it could be sematic so you'd be designing to

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Speaker 2: anautical theme or natural nature theme or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like the boat at Caroline Bay, the boat.

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Speaker 2: At Caroline Bay, the shipwreck of a boat. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is it a bit like buy a car in that

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Speaker 1: the color also matters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the color can definitely play a big role. There's

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Speaker 2: a theme at the moment to lean in towards nature

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Speaker 2: and leaning towards natural tones. We we full avoid of

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Speaker 2: advocating for pops of color. I'm sure plenty of the

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Speaker 2: listeners would agree with children where they will talk to

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Speaker 2: the kids about which playground you want to go today,

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Speaker 2: and suddenly my kids will turn around and go on

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Speaker 2: the one with an orange slide, And if everything was

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Speaker 2: uniform in a single color, it becomes very difficult to

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Speaker 2: communicate with with that younger audience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've got to inject a bit of wiggles

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Speaker 1: flare into everything we do. That's the go, Yeah, right on.

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Speaker 1: That Is there something that every playground or every great

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Speaker 1: playground and you'll view needs If.

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Speaker 2: You were to turn around and ask my kids, my

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Speaker 2: kids would say to you a slide. Every playground needs

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Speaker 2: a slide, Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 1: Are they into the twirly whirly ones or just the streets?

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Speaker 2: They couldn't care. They couldn't care any of the lift.

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Speaker 2: They just want the opportunity to fly, and more often

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Speaker 2: than not, if it's opened, they want the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: run up that slide.

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Speaker 1: Because that I find the plastic ones you get better

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Speaker 1: grip on the steel ones they can be they can

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Speaker 1: be a lot more tricky to navigate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it look slides are a difficult product to design

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Speaker 2: well that the safety standards have sort of a freg

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Speaker 2: requisite list of requirements for what a slide needs to be.

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Speaker 1: Ideally one that you don't need a skin graft after

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Speaker 1: you go down in shorts.

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Speaker 2: Where that's definitely the case, and you'll have seen the

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Speaker 2: change throughout the decade. You know, years gone by, we

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Speaker 2: had fiberglass slides and there's still somewhere around today and yeah,

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Speaker 2: five glass like to open up and splinter the children's

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Speaker 2: legs as they slide down. So that's why there's been

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Speaker 2: a theme of moving away from that and in some

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Speaker 2: more modern material to.

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Speaker 1: Write a passage if you grow up in ripple areas

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Speaker 1: in particular. I'm sure this might seem like an odd question,

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Speaker 1: but are playgrounds designed just for kids?

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Speaker 2: I'd like to suggest not. We work closely with children

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Speaker 2: in terms of actually designing a brief for what they'd

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Speaker 2: like to see included. But again we're huge advocates that

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Speaker 2: everyone can play, and myself, personally, I love to turn

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Speaker 2: up to a playground and see parents and caregives engaged

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Speaker 2: with children playing with them, be that sitting at a

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Speaker 2: shop front window trading little pieces of woodship for ice creams,

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Speaker 2: or be that playing the floor is lave or tag

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Speaker 2: with their children. There's nothing better for the community than

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Speaker 2: seeing that intergenerational play take place.

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Speaker 1: So in that case, when you're sitting there putting it together,

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Speaker 1: do you need to think can that swing? Can that slide?

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Speaker 1: Take a dad board?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Look at it very much enters the realm of design,

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Speaker 2: and you come back to is there something for everyone?

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Speaker 2: And there's probably a key takeaway there and that there's

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Speaker 2: no judgment in play. Kids don't see rules, although they

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Speaker 2: might sit down and make them collaboratively together. They see

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Speaker 2: past the color of skin, they see past disabilities, age barriers.

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Speaker 2: You know. All they to do is engaged with others.

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Speaker 2: They want to learn, they want to socialize, and they

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Speaker 2: want to have fun.