1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Open homes when selling. We insist on the agency working 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: individual to Wellington. Now, two more candidates have ditched Ray 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Shong's election ticket, Andrea Compton and Dan Millward, both announcing 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: last night that they will stand for Counselors independence rather 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: than as part of Ray's Independent Together group. Candidate Lily 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: Brown already said she was striking out on her own 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Alistair Boyce is from Better Wellington, which is 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: the group behind Independent Together the ticket, and he's with 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: me now, Alistair, Good evening, Good evening, fair to say 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: it's more independent than together at this point. 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: We're all about independence. We're not too worried about the 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: guys striking out on their own. If they've got a 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: belief they can make it with their own networks and 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: their own campaign, then we're fully supportive of that. Are 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: they good candidates and they'll make good counselors, So. 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: They're good candidates. They've got good morals, they've got you 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: know that you were all with them and they're saying 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: some of them that you know, good conscience can't continue 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: with the association, the tactics, all that sort of stuff. 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean that doesn't reflect well on the tech, does it. 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: Well. I think what they're saying is we did a 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: fourteen a fourteen events road show of zero rates increase, 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: and by the end of it, we were under so 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: much intense media scrutiny and public scrutiny. We were getting 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: up to two hundred at the end of the road shows, 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: and we had political activists and hecklers and the media scrutiny. 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: These guys aren't politicians. They are real people advocating real change. 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: And I think they found it very, very difficult in 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: that environment. But what that environment has given them as 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: a profile that they would never otherwise have. 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: Do you think they regret the association with Ray Chung? 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, and let's not forget. Do you think the 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: media attention's unjustified? I mean, when you've got when you've 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: got a candidate who sent an email about the Meya 35 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: with pendulous breaths and tempestuous sex, this is the outcome, 36 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: isn't it. 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 2: No? This is a job, Ryan, you know how it 38 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: works and politics. Tory Fine admitted in the Post today 39 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: that she's bided at a time and put it out 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: in consultation with other political activists to damage Ray Chung's campaign. 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: The reality is Labor do their own internal polling, and 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: Ray Chung is way too close to Andrew Little and 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: they'll do anything to knock him out of the race. 44 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: All right, Are you going to lose anyone else before 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: election day? 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: Well, if they feel as an independent that they can 47 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: get there better without our umbrella and without our support 48 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: and financial backing, then all power to them. We back 49 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: all these candidates, whether they're with us directly or out 50 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: on their own because we're not a political party. 51 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. Are you aware of others that are 52 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: thinking about or have already left. 53 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: No, I think they're all very tight and strong now. 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 2: They're totally into it and up for the fight. 55 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: All right, it's the hearty remainers Alistair. Appreciate your time, 56 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: Elisa from Better Wellington. The group behind Independent Together, as 57 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: I said, I think probably more independent than Together at 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 3: this point. 59 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 60 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 61 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.