1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Afternoon. Former Police Commissioner Andrew cost has quit his role 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: as the boss of the Social Investment Agency. It follows 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: that damning IPCA report about how top police handled the 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Gevin mcskimming allegations. In a statement, Andrew Costa says he's 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: prepared to take responsibility and that he got this wrong. 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Sir Brian Wroach is the Public Service Commissioner and with 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: us Hi Brian good evening. So he's been paid one 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four thousand dollars. That's three months notice. 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: Nothing else, nothing else. 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: He's been paid as contractoral entitlements three months in lit 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: of notice he left today. 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: Has the government had to pay any money to him 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: at all for ministers accusing him of corruption and to 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: cover up. 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: No, this is a very clean process. It's taken longer 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: than some of us put of light. But this has 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: got the outcome which I believe appropriate. He has taken accountability. 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: He apologize the express regret he's lost his job. I'm 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: not sure what more we can expect. 20 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Did he ask you to admit in a statement that 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: there was no corruptional. 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: Those were words that actually came from the IPCA, though, 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: are words important to him? And that's actually correct, and 24 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: so I had no discomfort actually restating them for completeness 25 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: because those things have mattered to him, and I was 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: happy with that. 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. So in that case, were the ministers wrong accusing 28 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: him of a cover up and corruption. 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: I think ministers are best able to explain that. In 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: my context, I wasn't looking at him. He was an 31 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: employee of me, of mine. I had worked with him. 32 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: I have found him to be very honest, very straightforward. 33 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: So I've had none of those experiences of him. I 34 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: believe him to be a person of integrity and very 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: values driven. 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: Why did it take so long to get rid of him? 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: Three weeks is not a long time in the scheme 38 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: of things. It was important that we did the process properly, 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: that we didn't give rise to undue legal risk. I'm 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: very comfortable with it. It's a very important process. It's 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: impactful on him his life in his career. I'm respectful 42 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: of the time required to get him to the position 43 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: we got him to. 44 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Okay, if you found him honest, Brian, why do you. 45 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: Have to go Because I don't believe he is able 46 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: to conduct his job and meet the demands of the 47 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: chief executive of the Social Investment Agency, because there is 48 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: fairly or unfairly, there is doubt in people's minds as 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: to his ability to do their job. Eves of the 50 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: view that actually it would be impossible for him to 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: do it in the short term. So in discussions he 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: agreed it was the best thing for him and the 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: best thing for the agency, and he believes very strongly 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: in that agency and his purpose and he did not 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: want to put that at risk. 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: All right, Brian, thank you as always for your time. 57 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: That Sir Brian Wroche, Public Service Commissioner. 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