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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty Find You're.

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Speaker 2: One of a kind on the heart of tonight. Tim

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Speaker 2: Wilson from the Maximum Institute, Hey.

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Speaker 3: Tim, Hey Ryan, how's it going? Yeah? Good? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Mark Sainsbury's here broadcaster in Wellington. Hey Mark, how you Ryan?

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Speaker 3: Look?

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Speaker 2: I've got a lot of respect for David Seymour, but

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Speaker 2: I just find it a little exasperating when you're going

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Speaker 2: tip for tat on something so stupid.

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Speaker 3: Tim, What do you think? Yeah? I can you know?

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Speaker 4: I was actually reflecting as you did your editorial. There

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Speaker 4: is sort of like a bit of a dysfunctional relationship

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Speaker 4: between Tapati Marii and act. You sort of wonder who

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Speaker 4: needs the other more I do. I do take David's

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Speaker 4: point though, that it was quite it was personal, and

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Speaker 4: if something did happen to David Seymour, I think we'd backtrack.

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Speaker 4: The one thing that I want to land on here

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Speaker 4: is that I noticed that rawoo wait tetti in his

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Speaker 4: Instagram story he used an adjective beginning with F that

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Speaker 4: was misspelled, and I have to say this is probably

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Speaker 4: why many charter schools, because people just aren't spelling the properly.

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Speaker 3: I think it was just spelt on purpose, wasn't it. Mark?

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Speaker 3: What about you? What do you reckon earth to Mark?

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Speaker 3: Are you there? Mark? You've muted yourself with your chisel

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Speaker 3: cheek bones. It always helps there, you go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's canceled.

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Speaker 3: He's canceled himself.

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Speaker 1: No, my big problems. I've got a bony ear, which

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Speaker 1: sort of listen. When I first looked at this, I

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Speaker 1: must say I did sort of think, look, if someone

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Speaker 1: else had said this or suggested that, people would be

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Speaker 1: up in arms. But I was really interested in your editorial,

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Speaker 1: same as Tim, because it did sort of clarify the thinking.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at it and you go, oh, look,

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Speaker 1: for God's sake, you know they're talking about giving the

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Speaker 1: grass a hiding like Stevid Seymour, and we know that

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Speaker 1: they don't mean that. I mean, boy boy, instead of

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Speaker 1: everyone's sort of so trigger happy on anything. You can't

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Speaker 1: say a thing without it being so Look, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a bit of sort of give and take.

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Speaker 1: Was it was it the smartest thing to do? No? No,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily, but yeah, I just think we're getting all

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Speaker 1: sort of wound up over something.

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Speaker 3: I can understand why.

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Speaker 2: I can understand why though, because David Seymour is always

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Speaker 2: the target, right, So when he says something, their immediate

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Speaker 2: response is of David Seymour's a racist. Now, I imagine

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Speaker 2: that after a while that must get incredibly frustrating. You'd

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Speaker 2: start to feel down about it, and after a while

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Speaker 2: you probably do lose a bit of your sense of

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Speaker 2: humor too, and everything becomes quite reactive, you know, tim.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's look, that'st the danger with the whole

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Speaker 4: extremity and polarized. That's why polarization sort of mode that

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Speaker 4: we're in. And unfortunately MMP does tend to reward that,

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Speaker 4: particularly for you know, plus five percent parties. The way

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Speaker 4: I'm going to look at this is it's just two

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Speaker 4: blokes who don't know how to show affection.

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Speaker 3: Showing affection, you should.

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Speaker 1: You could form a little support group of them.

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Speaker 3: Maybe me and right will do it. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of love.

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Speaker 2: And support for David seyma on the text machine. David

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Speaker 2: is absolutely right, Ryan, he is absolutely spot on as always,

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Speaker 2: so a lot of people backing him and supporting him,

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Speaker 2: which is good, good for him.

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Speaker 3: I suppose the huddle.

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Speaker 1: With New Zealand Southeby's International realty, the ones with local

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Speaker 1: and global reach.

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Speaker 2: Tim Wilson and Mark Sansbury on the Huddle tonight. Mark,

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Speaker 2: You're soon going to be the mayor of Wellington, so

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Speaker 2: you can decide on this. You can decide for us

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Speaker 2: about the Airbnb debarcle. This woman who might have to

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Speaker 2: pay commercial rates on an Airbnb at home, what do

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Speaker 2: you say, Oh, look.

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Speaker 1: It's just nuts. I mean you look, it's going to

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Speaker 1: go to the You know that they are going to

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Speaker 1: have a look of this, and that's one of the

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Speaker 1: options that people pay full commercial rates. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the rates the city, it just crazy. I had some

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Speaker 1: sympathy listening to your guest on before is at Julie

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Speaker 1: because our rates went up I think, you know, like

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Speaker 1: from about six to nine grand, and then they dropped

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Speaker 1: the value of our properties by twenty percent. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that have to look at sort of

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Speaker 1: spreading it out. And the thing I don't get is

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Speaker 1: if I buy a house and then rent it out,

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Speaker 1: you know, to a bunch of students or whatever, is

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Speaker 1: that a commercial enterprise. I'm not paying commercial rates on that.

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Speaker 1: If I have someone, you know, if I get in

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Speaker 1: a flatmate or a border you're not paying commercial rates.

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Speaker 1: But if you're doing you know, one of your rooms

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Speaker 1: for and that's where it's silly. If you're only doing

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Speaker 1: a couple of rooms for Airbnb, you're just doing it occasionally.

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Speaker 1: It just makes them do an absolute nonsense. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of sympathy, a lot, a lot of sympathy for

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Speaker 1: Emma Reid she did if you saw the video, she

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Speaker 1: did a fantastic video to the council with lots of

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Speaker 1: props I think, which is always useful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that because you make a good point

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Speaker 2: about renters. This is this just REGs because there's not extra,

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Speaker 2: any extra drain on resources for the council. This is

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Speaker 2: just they need some more money, tim, So they're going

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Speaker 2: into fishing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like that. And you sort of think

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Speaker 4: with the with Airbnb. I mean, if it's if it's

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Speaker 4: a commercial I understand commercial building, Oh okay, so they

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Speaker 4: use the toilet a lot more, use the shower a

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Speaker 4: lot more, whatever it is the infrastructure. But airbnbs aren't

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Speaker 4: always occupied, so it seems manifestly unfair to increase, you know,

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Speaker 4: increase the rates by four times because you're operating in

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Speaker 4: AIRB and B. So you know, and look at if

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Speaker 4: it's a business. If you do a home office, you

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Speaker 4: get a tax rebate. You say, oh, this is a

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Speaker 4: business area, and the tax goes back. So it just

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Speaker 4: seems upside down.

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Speaker 1: See, there's big problems Ryan Sane Queenstown where a lot

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Speaker 1: of people converted their places to AIRB and b's and

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Speaker 1: it cut out the available rentals for people working there

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Speaker 1: and all that sort of cause major issues. And you

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Speaker 1: can sort of see them having to have a look

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Speaker 1: at that this is this is this is a different scenario.

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Speaker 1: It's not the same sort of numbers in Wellington or

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Speaker 1: same proportion of properties converting to AIRB and bs. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it does look like that they're desperate for Doe and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna they're going to screw it out of anyone

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Speaker 1: they can find there.

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Speaker 4: You go vote vote for Saints O run.

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Speaker 2: It's going to say, can you please confirm that that'll

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Speaker 2: be item number one on your campaign. Hey, people are

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Speaker 2: deciding against going on holiday in the United States because

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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump. Apparently Apparently people saying they'll leave the

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Speaker 2: country because you know, in terms of emigrate because they

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Speaker 2: are sick of them. But would you avoid going on

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Speaker 2: a holiday.

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Speaker 3: If anything, that would make things more interesting. I would

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Speaker 3: have thought, tim.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well exactly. And if they're going because they think

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Speaker 4: Trump's unaccepted, or where are they going to go? I mean,

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Speaker 4: I hear Russia's nice at this time of year, the

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Speaker 4: Kimchi and North Korea is quite good. And they're saying

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Speaker 4: they're saying, actually that the Chinese visitors is down. So wait,

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Speaker 4: so they're coming from a country that has concentration camps

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Speaker 4: for wigas and they're assuing America because of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, go and check your compass.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Germans have got a bit of a different

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Speaker 1: view in it because there's a couple of German terrorists

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Speaker 1: were detained after trying to enter the United States legally

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Speaker 1: and there were chain detained for weeks and it's caused

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Speaker 1: a big stink in Europe. So and a lot of

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Speaker 1: Germans now reconsidering what to do. Would it stop me

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Speaker 1: from going on holiday and doing something in the starf

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love going to the States. I think

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Speaker 1: the States so it's a bit like India. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're going to go to a different state every time,

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Speaker 1: just like visiting a different country. But look, they had this.

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Speaker 1: When George w got in, there were people saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the States, same to the thing, we're going to

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Speaker 1: leave here, We're not going to come back for four years,

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Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff never happened, never happened

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Speaker 1: like everyone sort of thought was going to. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's just although the numbers are seen to be

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Speaker 1: but mainly from people who feel as though they could

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Speaker 1: be targeted. And with this whole sort of immigration sweeps,

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Speaker 1: like these poor old German tourists, you wouldn't want to

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Speaker 1: get caught up in it. But that stopped me.

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Speaker 2: No, no e, since you were the US correspond In fact,

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Speaker 2: were both of you US correspondents?

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Speaker 1: No I was the europe one.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's right. It's an interesting was thinking about the

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Speaker 2: United States. Why don't they just not be the United States?

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Speaker 2: They get so divided, Tim, you'll be better on this.

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Speaker 2: They get so divided, why not just break up? I mean,

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Speaker 2: for goodness sake, misery.

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Speaker 4: There is actually a guy called political thinker called Samuel

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Speaker 4: Huntington that says that this is the way that America

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Speaker 4: stops political decay. The sort of there's a productive friction

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Speaker 4: in this disunity, and you know the toll, you know,

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Speaker 4: all the polarization is terrible. I don't know if Americans

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Speaker 4: always think it's a terrible thing. I think they've got

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Speaker 4: a different disposition to us down here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because by now, I mean if they were,

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Speaker 2: if they were a married couple, it'd be that bad

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Speaker 2: for the children that someone would be asking for a divorce,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: No nonsense, but have eighteen children? Friction producers love Brian.

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Speaker 3: Oh God, Tim, Thank you.

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