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Speaker 1: Kevin Gray are UK correspondents with us? Now, Hey, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: hi there, given I'm fascinated by the fact that the

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Speaker 1: French are not interested in that marital chove. What do

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Speaker 1: you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem funny, doesn't it. But I have

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Speaker 2: to say I think the French do have a very

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Speaker 2: different attitude towards affairs, affairs of the heart, but also

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Speaker 2: just towards sort of people's personal behavior and particularly over

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Speaker 2: there bringing up of a family and what is and

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Speaker 2: is not acceptable with regard to punishment and so forth,

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Speaker 2: and certainly with regard to romantics or affairs. We've seen

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Speaker 2: several former presidents prime ministers of France have an affair

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Speaker 2: and the country really not take that much notice. They

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Speaker 2: really do think that is personal. They don't think it's

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Speaker 2: got anything to do with their jobs, so they can't

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Speaker 2: see why its of interest to the rest of us.

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Speaker 2: The rest of the world's media, however, have really poured

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Speaker 2: into this. And when you look through that footage of

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Speaker 2: the plane door opening, you know on so many state visits,

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Speaker 2: it's so well choreographed. The fact that he was standing

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Speaker 2: there and then got this push and then says it

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Speaker 2: was a joke when you slow the footage down. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't look that particularly jokey to me, No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: That's it's a really interesting attitude from the fringe. Is

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Speaker 1: this an attitude that is just you know, like as

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Speaker 1: in your personal life is your personal life and nobody

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Speaker 1: else has a say on it. Is that exclusive to

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Speaker 1: politicians or do they extend it to everybody?

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Speaker 2: It's pretty much extended to everybody in the public life, unless,

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Speaker 2: of course, you are an advocate of one thing and

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Speaker 2: then come out in your personal life and do something different.

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Speaker 2: But certainly when you when you look at some of

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Speaker 2: the big stars Jeradepaju of course being in court recently

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Speaker 2: and found guilty of various charges against women on film

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Speaker 2: sets and so forth, they do really have a different

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Speaker 2: attitude because they seem to think, well, it's you know

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Speaker 2: that that's part of their personal lives, nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with us. It's not to do with their job. As

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Speaker 2: long as I still like that politician or I like

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Speaker 2: that actor, or I like that celebrity, then that's nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with me. But in other countries, of course

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Speaker 2: New Zealand UK no different. It can cost somebody their job,

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Speaker 2: It can certainly cost somebody their reputation, and so that

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Speaker 2: attitude from France, I must say, I can't think of many,

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Speaker 2: if any other countries around the world that has that

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Speaker 2: similar sort of less a fair look.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's totally they may and staying in France. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I see that they've erased it around it

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Speaker 1: up more than twenty people. About those cryptocurrency kidnappings.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there have been lots of cryptocurrency kidnappings or attempted

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Speaker 2: kidnappings in France, and this is all because the apparently

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Speaker 2: the crooks believe this is a quick way to make money.

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Speaker 2: Identify those who have a large cryptocurrency holding, hold a

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Speaker 2: relative to ransom, and then simply demand the cryptocurrency over,

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Speaker 2: much more difficult to trace than hard cash, much easier

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Speaker 2: to transfer than hard cash. So police have now rested

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Speaker 2: it's thought twenty four people taken into custody, and the

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Speaker 2: whole incident was really been sparked by the fact there

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Speaker 2: have been a number of kidnapping plots, but more recently,

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Speaker 2: earlier in May, there was an attempted kidnapping of a

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Speaker 2: woman and child in Paris, and it's believed that one

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Speaker 2: other member of the family was a cryptocurrency multi multi millionaire.

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Speaker 2: And it also follows a couple of other happenings right

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Speaker 2: across France, but mostly in and around Paris, where there

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Speaker 2: have been these abductions or attempted abductions.

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Speaker 1: Given where are the remains of the Spanish saint.

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Speaker 2: These are fascinating actually because of course saints are supposed

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Speaker 2: to effectively not decay very much when they die. That

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Speaker 2: is a sign of them being saintly. So Catholic worshippers

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Speaker 2: have been turning up to alber de Tomes, it's in

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Speaker 2: western Spain, to view relics of Saint Theresa of Avilla.

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Speaker 2: She's a sixteenth century religious reformer. She's in a silver casket,

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Speaker 2: and the faithful have lined up in their tens of

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Speaker 2: thousands to see her. Silent and wonderstruck. As the remains

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Speaker 2: of the miss have been put on display for the

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Speaker 2: first time in more than one hundred years now, it

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Speaker 2: is effectively like seeing somebody in an open top silver coffin,

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Speaker 2: and they're just a skeleton. She died in fifteen eighty

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Speaker 2: two and is a big, big figure and a big

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Speaker 2: player from Spain's Golden Age and the sixteenth century counter Reformation.

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Speaker 2: But some are saying, is this just like tourism morbidity. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but tourism curiosity in the morbid So that's what they're

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Speaker 2: looking at. But others are saying, no, it's good to

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Speaker 2: shop the saints as they are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin, thanks very much. I really appreciate Skevin Gray

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Speaker 1: are UK correspondent.

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