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Speaker 1: Barry, so seeing your political correspondence with us. Now, hey Barry,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon, Heather. What do you make of Chris Luxe?

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Speaker 1: And see list of comments.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what now he'll be wishing he never

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Speaker 2: made them, because look, this is to me an example

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Speaker 2: of an apprentice prime minister. You don't look at former

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Speaker 2: trade missions and say that you know they are ce

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Speaker 2: list because you're insulting the people went on them, and

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Speaker 2: you may be praising the one he's got with them

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Speaker 2: at the.

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Speaker 1: Moment, you're insulting your own voters at.

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Speaker 2: Well, indeed you are. And look, I've got to say

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Speaker 2: that he was in a tight spot and he had

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Speaker 2: to justify what he thinks are good trades people. But look,

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Speaker 2: I went on many trade missions over the years that

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Speaker 2: I was working out of Parliament, went on all of

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Speaker 2: Jacinda Durn's trade missions, and I used to sit in

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Speaker 2: the seat look as scarce at the people that were

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Speaker 2: on them, thinking what are you doing here? What they

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Speaker 2: would doing there? And what some on his trip will

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Speaker 2: be no doubt doing there as well, is that they

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Speaker 2: get on a plane with the Prime Minister and are

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Speaker 2: able to get his ear and socialize with him and

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Speaker 2: I've got to say, looking at Jasinda Durn's trade missions,

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Speaker 2: there were many in that category signing very little business.

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Speaker 2: This one, you've got to say to Japan has signed

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Speaker 2: significant business, but it's been overshadowed by a broken down

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Speaker 2: plane and his se list to comments. So he'll be

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Speaker 2: reflecting on that now as they board the plane to

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Speaker 2: come home tonight. Before he left, though, he's meeting with

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Speaker 2: the Japanese Prime Minister. I think as we speak, but

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Speaker 2: Luxon now conceides he could have expressed himself in a

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Speaker 2: better way.

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Speaker 3: I could maybe could have expressed it in a different,

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Speaker 3: little better way. But what I'm saying to you very

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Speaker 3: clearly is that when we come to these delegations, I

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Speaker 3: am putting huge effort into it to make sure that

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Speaker 3: I've got the business delegation right, We've got the media

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Speaker 3: delegation right, and we've actually got the political delegation and

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Speaker 3: the political engagement right. I'm really proud of actually what

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Speaker 3: we delivered in Southeast Asia on that trip. I'm very

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Speaker 3: proud of what we've delivered in this engagement with Japan,

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Speaker 3: which is an important relationship. And so when I look

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Speaker 3: at this delegation that we have been able to form.

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Speaker 3: We have New Zealand's leading cheers and CEOs here. We

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Speaker 3: have a huge number of them, the biggest number that

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Speaker 3: we've ever brought to Japan before. And we actually are

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Speaker 3: getting the business done exactly as I wanted us to

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Speaker 3: be able to do.

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Speaker 2: There was no questions please. That was from a former

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Speaker 2: press secretary of John Keyes. No more questions. But look,

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Speaker 2: you know he was in the tight spot. And I've

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Speaker 2: got to say much of that stand up from journalists

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Speaker 2: were more worried about one in particular about not being

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Speaker 2: able to ask questions of the Chinese premiere when he

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Speaker 2: was here last week. Now, this was put to Laxon

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Speaker 2: in Japan, for goodness sake, Does that come up now? Well,

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Speaker 2: because apparently she was pushed to one side by officials.

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Speaker 1: Well the one in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, this is traveling with John Key on

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Speaker 2: this particular trade mission. I was sorry John Key, Chris

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Speaker 2: Laxon because she had been pushed around. He said, laya complain.

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Speaker 2: I'm totally unaware of that. Of course he would be

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Speaker 2: as well. But the media rather than worrying about themselves,

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Speaker 2: and he said he's got the right mix of the media. Well,

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Speaker 2: in the end, it's the media that want to go

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Speaker 2: on them, and he accepts whoever comes up, but for

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Speaker 2: them to complain about it. Every time I was told

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Speaker 2: we weren't allowed to ask a question of a visiting dignitary,

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Speaker 2: of course you'd hear the raspy voice from behind yelling

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Speaker 2: out a question.

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Speaker 1: You just disobey the rules.

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Speaker 2: Of course you disobey the rules. It's a press conference.

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Speaker 2: And I remember one asking him, this is why he's,

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Speaker 2: no doubt called sleepy Joe. When Joe Biden was here

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Speaker 2: the final final question of the press conference and we

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Speaker 2: were told we weren't allowed to ask questions of the

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Speaker 2: up and said I can't hear what did you say?

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Speaker 2: And there microphone, microphone was back up on the podium.

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Speaker 1: That breaking the rules.

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Speaker 4: That's why I just Sinda famously talks about how much

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Speaker 4: she loved you when when she was the prime minister.

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Speaker 4: What do we do about the MPs right, because there

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Speaker 4: is this call to allow the security guards at Parliament

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Speaker 4: to arrest and so on.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's not a great problem at Parliament. Let's face it.

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Speaker 2: You know there's been the odd breach of security there,

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Speaker 2: but not a lot. I mean it used to be

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Speaker 2: we used to call them Dad's Army, the security at Parliament.

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Speaker 2: Now they're much younger and they're probably much fitter. But

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Speaker 2: it's not over to the Speaker to say you can

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Speaker 2: now have the ability to arrest and detain people. That's

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Speaker 2: got to be through an Act of Parliament and the

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Speaker 2: police are the only people. Or I guess you can

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Speaker 2: do a citizen's arrest. Give it a go, see how

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Speaker 2: you get on. But no, I don't think that'll happen.

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Speaker 2: But I think you know, the biggest risk we saw

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Speaker 2: at Parliament. May remember it in twenty and seventeen mid

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Speaker 2: twenty and seventeen a cop left a loaded gun on

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Speaker 2: a bathroom at Parliament. He kept his job and no

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Speaker 2: charges were late following an investigation. So that would have

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Speaker 2: been a danger. But that is the police. So Jerry

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Speaker 2: wants the DPS, which is there to look after the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister and ministers that feel they need it. The

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Speaker 2: biggest problem, I guess is out in the electorates. But

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Speaker 2: I heard Jenny Anderson on Mike Hoskins this morning, saying

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Speaker 2: that they have these little buttons they can carry around.

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Speaker 2: One press of the button and the cops are alerted. Well,

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Speaker 2: it seems.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good to me, but Barry, to be fair, somebody

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Speaker 1: comes in with a weapon, you have to press the

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Speaker 1: button and wait for the cops. That's a while.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess it is. But I suppose you know,

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Speaker 2: you go, well, it hasn't happened, and I guess they're vulnerable,

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Speaker 2: But then aren't we all vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: And all classick key we attitude right there, right.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it very so for seeing your political correspondence.

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