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Speaker 1: The second All Black Spring Box game. Tomorrow night's happening

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Speaker 1: in Wellington. All Blacks have made six changes to the

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Speaker 1: starting side. South Africa have made seven changes. Former Springbok

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Speaker 1: and Supersport commentator Hanyana Shimonge has been following the box.

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Speaker 1: Hanyana Hello, Hello, I heat. How are you feeling about

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Speaker 1: going in this week? Are you guys ready for a drubbing? No?

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Speaker 2: No, none at all. Look, it's it's exciting. I think

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, South Africa. I did the commentary last

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Speaker 2: year when the All Blacks were in Cape Town. I

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Speaker 2: think that cave that cape Ton test that I've never

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Speaker 2: seen a demand for tickets like ats for a for

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Speaker 2: any game. And it's just the respect, the rival, the

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Speaker 2: interest in this game. And obviously without Super Ugby, we

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Speaker 2: only see each other twice a year, so this is

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Speaker 2: going to be one of those those occasions. You guys

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Speaker 2: got us at e didn't park. The record stands. But

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Speaker 2: you're confident for tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: Why why so confident?

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Speaker 2: I think you know that the eras last week, we're twelve.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the overall stats besides the scoreboard,

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Speaker 2: the twelve entries last week into the New Zealand or thirteen.

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Speaker 2: We just didn't convert those. You go at fifty percent,

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Speaker 2: that's four or five trials, you know in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and the look at the differential, it was a seven

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Speaker 2: point difference. So there are mistakes that we made last

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Speaker 2: week in New Zealand were very good. But it's stuff

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Speaker 2: that is flexible within a week and if we get it,

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Speaker 2: can get our execution right will be good.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it was a surprise that the All

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Speaker 1: Blacks won last week? I mean, I get the feeling

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Speaker 1: judging by some of the adverts coming out of South Africa,

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Speaker 1: you guys really believed it was possible to roll the

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Speaker 1: All Blacks of venpac Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If you if you look at it, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's you gotta look at it both sides. South

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Speaker 2: Africa's won two World Cups, British and Irish Lions who

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Speaker 2: got good depth, number one team in the world, and

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Speaker 2: New Zealand team that just come off a loss against

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Speaker 2: Argentina almost struggled against the France B team. So if

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Speaker 2: in terms of that, you know that the fourth or

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Speaker 2: fifth choice come off who played very well. You know,

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Speaker 2: a New Zealand team that was probably vulnerable and a

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Speaker 2: South African team that you know that's probably was well

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Speaker 2: prepped for it. That's probably where the confidence came from.

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Speaker 2: But again, you know, to be to win that game

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand or to win at eden Park, you

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Speaker 2: have to be on top of your game and the

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Speaker 2: Springboks probably aren't.

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Speaker 1: What is your take because the winning in at Eden

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Speaker 1: Park has sort of given something of a reprieve to Raiser, However,

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Speaker 1: I think it will probably pick up again at the

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Speaker 1: next loss. What does your take on him? Looking from

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Speaker 1: the outside as a coach.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's an incredible coach. I think if you're a

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Speaker 2: Crusader supporter, you know Raiser has done so much in

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Speaker 2: terms for the Canterby Crusaders. I think coming into the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks, you know everyone thought it's just going to

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Speaker 2: be at an automatic step for the results he got

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Speaker 2: against Cantoby to the All Blacks, where's Test match rugby

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Speaker 2: is different? You know, it is completely different. But he's

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Speaker 2: a phenomenal coach. He's got a proven record. You can

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Speaker 2: see what he's trying to do with this All Black team.

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Speaker 2: Has introduced you blad who's doing it slowly. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's made one or two changes and you'll see hill

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Speaker 2: style coming through, and there've been glimpses of it. So

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Speaker 2: Raiser is the right guy. Is definitely the right coach

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Speaker 2: for the job. But I think New Zealand, like South Africa,

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Speaker 2: I've got a demanding, a demanding, a debanding public. I

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Speaker 2: think you sort of after the Argentina again, it almost

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Speaker 2: felt from a South African point of view that the

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Speaker 2: honeymoon period was over a Raiser and people started asking

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Speaker 2: the hard questions, what's going on? Why don't we getting

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Speaker 2: the results? It was another sort of sad record that

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Speaker 2: was broken by Argentina. All Blacks had never won in Argentina.

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Speaker 2: You know, I remember stage when you never saw the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks lose a game against Argentina. So it was

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Speaker 2: probably one of those and those the reaction to it.

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Speaker 2: I think if they had lost in Eden Park the

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Speaker 2: thirty year record or what I think fifty Test match

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Speaker 2: record gone, then there have been real problems. But I

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Speaker 2: think the pressure rule is the International rugby purely because

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Speaker 2: of the legacy, the history of both teams and what

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Speaker 2: they've managed to do.

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Speaker 1: Hanyana, it's very good to have you take on it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks mate, Hanya ne Hiamange, former Springbok and of course

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Speaker 1: supersport commentatic.

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