1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge you 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and the play at stores US talks. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: It'd be good morning, great to have your company just 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: gone six after five on your Thursday morning, before six 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: o'clock this morning. How big was that recession in the 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: last quarter. We'll find out today. What does it mean 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: for your mortgage and why a fraction of a percent 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: could count July Sorry, the jury rather is out in 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: the Pokinghorn trial. What do they need to know in 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: order to convict him? We'll ask our court reporter, our 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: US correspondent looks at the White House, having no idea 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: about his spiller, the attack on his buller and the 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: pages yesterday. It's all ahead. 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: The agenda. 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: It is Thursday, the nineteenth of August. First pages. Now 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: walky talkie is being used by Hezbela have exploded, killing 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: three people and injuring at least one hundred. This is 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: deepening the sense of insecurity that was very palpable in 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: the aftermath of yesterday's A pager of bombings. Ukraine has 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 2: conducted a drone attack against a Russian missile facility, causing 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: a huge explosion in that facility three hundred and seventy 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: kilometers from the capital Moscow. The explosion was picked up 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 2: by a Norwegian earthquake monitoring agency, registering as a magnitude 25 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: three point two. Google is celebrating this morning. Google has 26 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: won an appeal against its two point six billion dollar 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: fine for blocking rivals from displaying search ads. Remember this 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: was going on in Europe. The European Commission, a court 29 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: in Europe, said they imposed the fine. They said they 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: committed errors in their assessment. The Commission says it's exploring 31 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: its next steps back home. Winston Peters had a bit 32 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: of a winge, a bit of a lash out in 33 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: Parliament yesterday, saying standards are dropping, taking aim at Tapati Maldi, 34 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: MP Takutai Ferris who read a speech off a laptop 35 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: in the space of just three years. 36 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: The standards of this house of massive you decayed. 37 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: The Murray Party in Green's Don't Know Stanning orders News 38 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: and Views you trust to start your day. It's early 39 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture 40 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: beds and a flying store. 41 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: News talk said be people are coming in here with 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: hats on and bare feet and all sorts of things. 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: It doesn't really bother me what people wear. I suppose it. 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: It is nice to see people looking tidy in Parliament, 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: but I don't necessarily think everybody needs to be suit 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: and tie. Nine two nine two is the number to text. 47 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: He does have a point on the standards more generally, 48 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: especially when it comes to question time. Oh my goodness, Hey, 49 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: two big things happening today. One is the Federal Reserve 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: in the United States. In fact, this is going to 51 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: happen in the next hour. I think in exactly an 52 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: hour from now, we will hear what their decision is 53 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: on a rate cut there. It's been four long years 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: since they last cut rates. And will it be a 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: quarter of a percent? Will it be half a percent? 56 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: And what will that mean? Could that drive up demand 57 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: for the New Zealand dollar. Could we see a bit 58 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: of a rally on the kiwi and the Australian dollar 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 2: this morning? We'll have to stay tuned and watch that one. Interestingly, 60 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: I was reading this morning The Wall Street Journal has 61 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: a piece retail assets in money market funds totaled two 62 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: point six trillion dollars last week. That was up from 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: one point five trillion in September of twenty twenty two. 64 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: So when the rates go up, that's where people put 65 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: their money, and there's going to be a lot of 66 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: that money floating around looking for a home once rates 67 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: start coming down. We've also got our GDP, but we'll 68 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: talk about that before four six. Lester Levy is a 69 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: part time commissioner. He is a part timer. Do we care? 70 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: Nine two ninety two the number to text at first? 71 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: Listen to Chippy. He's obviously upset. 72 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 5: I don't think it's a part time role. I mean 73 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 5: he is now responsible for running the entire hospital system 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 5: across the country. 75 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: That is a full time job. I thought, Yeah, you've 76 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: got a point. Actually you should if this is your 77 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: big job. They've sacked the whole board. But he's not 78 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: running the Chibby says he's running the health system. He's not. 79 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: That's Margie upper He Lester Levy is a sit in 80 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: for the board who they've basically sacked because they were 81 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: all or they left because they didn't like what they 82 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: were doing, or they were useless, or a combination of both. 83 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: So if the chair of the board of Fonterra had 84 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: another job. Would you be surprised? No, because when you're 85 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: on boards, you have multiple directorships and you know you 86 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 2: do it. But if you're running the places the CEO, 87 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: if the CEO of Fonterra was part time at Packinsafe, 88 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 2: you'd be asking questions. So I'm split on this one. 89 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: I'm split. He has been paid three hundred and twenty 90 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: one thousand dollars a year and he's doing two days 91 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: a week at universities teaching students about it or something. 92 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: Nine two nine two. Would love your views on that. 93 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 2: This morning is just gone eleven minutes after five. 94 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: Bryan Bridge. 95 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: And some good news as we go to the break. 96 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: We are feeling more optimistic as we look ahead to 97 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: the GDP data out today. We are feeling good. According 98 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: to the latest west Pac Mcdermocmiller Consumer Confidence Index, it 99 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: was up nine points to ninety point eight in the 100 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: September quarter. It's still low but slightly up, so we'll 101 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: take that win. Yeah. A net fourteen percent of respondents 102 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: say they expect to be worse off financially in the 103 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: next year, but that is down from a net thirty 104 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 2: percent who felt that way in the June quarter. So 105 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: that's good news. What we want today actually is a 106 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: bad GDP number between you and me. We want a 107 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: bad GDP number because then Adrian All will have to 108 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: cut the rates sooner and then Tory Farno can buy 109 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: her carback. 110 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: The news you need this morning and the in depth 111 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and swith City, New 112 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: Zealand's furniture Beds and a playing store. 113 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: News Talks'd be fourteen after five on News Talks B 114 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: and Z and their view on what will happen with 115 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: GDP today coming your way just before six o'clock. Also, 116 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: there is an asteroid. I feel like we've done a 117 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: lot of space news lately, a lot. There is an 118 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: asteroid the size of a stadium and another one the 119 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: size of a skyscraper currently hurtling towards us, So stand 120 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: by for that fourteen after five. Retail crime up eighty 121 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: six percent in the last five years. There are members 122 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: of the Ministerial Advisory Group aiming to fix that that 123 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: have been named reps from Retailing, Zed Food Staff's Michael Hill. 124 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: They're all involved. Ash Palmer, who was an AT Party candidate, 125 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: and Sunny Kaschell's obviously in their two Carolyn Young is 126 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: on there on the Advisory Group Retailians Chief Zive and 127 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: she joins me this morning. Carolyn, good morning, whatever, Ryan, 128 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: thank you for being with me. Are you worried this 129 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: will be just another working group that gets nothing done? 130 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely not. No, We're really determined to make a difference 131 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 6: and we're all actively involved in retail so understand the 132 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 6: impacts that retail crime has been having on businesses and 133 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 6: their staff and wanting to make sure that we can 134 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 6: provide a safe environment for staff to go to work 135 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 6: and for customers to enjoy being able to come into 136 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 6: the stores. 137 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: One of the issues you're going to look at is 138 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: the security guards. Are you going to tackle this issue? Literally? 139 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: Do you think we should empower security guards to actually 140 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: go after shoplifters and get them on the ground until 141 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: the cops come. 142 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 6: Look, there's a wide variety of issues that will be canvassing, 143 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 6: and people's got very different views because businesses use security 144 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 6: guards in different ways, and so we need to actually understand. 145 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: What's you Caaren viewing on that well. 146 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 6: Retail in New Zealander. We've got a working group that 147 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 6: we're working on and we'll be consulting back into the 148 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 6: Ministry Advisory Group. There's a balance around what you can 149 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 6: do because when you think about, you know, your word 150 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 6: through tackling estenders. I mean, that's a really difficult thing 151 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 6: to do, and you have to be highly trained to 152 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 6: be able to do that. If you're going to hold 153 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 6: on to somebody, you need somewhere to be safe to 154 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 6: be able to do that. So there's a lot of 155 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 6: things to take into account. We need to ensure that 156 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 6: security guards are better trained and have greater resources, that 157 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 6: they can have skills that they. 158 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 2: Can sounds to me like that we won't be tackling shoplifters. 159 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think we'll be tackling shoplifters. 160 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: That's all right. Hey, what about I'm interested in the 161 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: facial tech recognition technology. If I steal something, you know, 162 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: my face? What happens if I try and enter the 163 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: store again? You know, because obviously you're not going to 164 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: tackle me. So and I'm trying to get an do 165 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: the doors close automatically? How does that work? 166 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 4: So? 167 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 6: How it works as facial recognition is loads up people that, 168 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 6: as you say, have offended in the store, and the 169 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 6: stores have got a photo of that person who's offended 170 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 6: or been trespassed from the store. There's only a couple 171 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 6: of cameras at the entry of the store, they capture 172 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 6: image of somebody that's against that photo. Then the assessment 173 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 6: is done to ensure is that the same person, because 174 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 6: obviously people look differently on different days, And then the 175 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 6: store can determine a range of ways in which they 176 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 6: can intervene or not. So they might actively intervene. They 177 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 6: might go and talk to the person and say, hey, 178 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 6: Carolyn Young, you know you're not meant to be in 179 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 6: the store. You've been trespassed in. The store would really 180 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 6: ask you kindly to leave. And the police will tell 181 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 6: you eight percent of the time when you actually go 182 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 6: and approach an offender and someone that's not meant to 183 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 6: be there, they will turn around and walk out. There'll 184 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 6: be no further interaction. 185 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: And the rest of the rest you've got to tackle. 186 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 6: You might also just decide to monitor that person in 187 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 6: the store, so you might just observe what they're doing, 188 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 6: and knowing who's in the store and the types of 189 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 6: offenses that have done before actually gives the staff and 190 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 6: the store more confidence that they can manage that potential 191 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 6: interaction that's going to happen. So you've caught one steper 192 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 6: here because you've you know that you've had an alert 193 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 6: that's identified you of a person that's in the store 194 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 6: that has either been violent or sole and stuff. 195 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: And I guess that then all the staff will know 196 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: that as well, right, Carolyn, thank you very much for 197 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: joining us this morning. Carolyn Young Retailing is the chief 198 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: executive on this group, which she says is not just 199 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: another working group. It will get something done. We will 200 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: follow up on progress from that particular group, that advisory 201 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: group to the minister. It is nineteen minutes after five. 202 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: Coming up next the Polkinghorn trial. The jury is out. 203 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: What do they need to see today for a potential 204 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: verdict potential conviction of Philip Polkinghorn by the end of 205 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: the day. 206 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 3: The first word on the News of the Day early 207 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture 208 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 3: beds and a play at store News Talk SIVV. 209 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes after five, News Talk said, b we 210 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 2: are going to the United States. Our US correspondent will 211 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: be with us after the news At five point thirty, 212 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: What did the White House know about the Hisbilla Page's 213 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: attack that was imminent. What did Israel tell them about that? 214 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 2: We'll look at that shortly. Right now though here in 215 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: New Zealand, the fate of Philip Polkinghorn now lies in 216 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: a jury of eight women and three men. We could 217 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: have a verdict by today or in the next couple 218 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: of days. And the murder trial over the death of 219 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: his wife, Pauline Hannah in twenty twenty one, seven weeks 220 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: eighty witnesses. The jury is out for deliberation and Craig 221 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: Capitana is with us. He's the New Zealand Herald Court reporter. 222 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: Craig Good morning morning, Ryan, how are you very well? 223 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 2: Thanks for being with me. What is this jury deciding on? Basically? 224 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: Is it essentially was this murder or was this suicide? 225 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? 226 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 4: The Crown says this is a very binary decision. The facts, 227 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: the way the house was found, they really only have 228 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: two decisions. Is a murder or suicide. 229 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: Is and if there's a chance that this was suicide. 230 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: Are they not able to find Philip Pulkinghorn guilty of murder? 231 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 4: Well, they do have a lesser charge then they can 232 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: vote on, which is manslaughter, But that hasn't really been 233 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 4: discussed by the crown or the defense and closing arguments, 234 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 4: So that's more of a technicality. Really, I would imagine 235 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 4: they will definitely be coming back with a guilty or 236 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: not guilty to murder it it appears, and if it's 237 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: not guilty, there's a very good chance he'll be walking 238 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: out of the court. 239 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: Right and that could be happening as early today. I mean, 240 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: it's a stupid question to ask, how long do you 241 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: deliberate for? How long is a pace of straight. 242 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's anybody's guess. But if I had, if I 243 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 4: had to guess, i'd say it's not going to be quick. 244 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 4: But that comes with the caveat that I'm almost one 245 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: hundred percent wrong on these guesses, so who knows. 246 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 2: I appreciate honesty. 247 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, if they do go past today, court won't be 248 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 4: sitting tomorrow, so we'll stretch into week nine. If if 249 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: it takes more than a day. 250 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 2: Took us through the unanimous versus majority verdict, what what 251 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: you need to get and how that operates. 252 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 4: Well, Uh, they're gonna have to sit and work towards 253 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: an unanimous for for quite a while. That's I think 254 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: the minimum is four hours, but usually it's much longer. 255 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: If they can't make a decision by then, the judge 256 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: will give them a direction that they can. At some 257 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: point they can have a unanimous for adicting Stead, which 258 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: only allows one person to dissent. So sorry, that was 259 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: twelve jurors, but one juror was dismissed a couple weeks 260 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 4: ago because this trial has run so long, So we 261 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 4: have eleven jurors. Now, technically we could have a ten 262 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: to one vote for guilty or not guilty and with 263 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: the good gil, but that's going to be a little 264 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 4: bit down the track. 265 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if that's not possible, then we get to 266 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: a hung jury, and then we get to a potential retrial, 267 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: don't we. We're in that territory. 268 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, still remind me of that. 269 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: Craig, thank you very much for that. Great to understand 270 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: and talk through exactly what people can expect from this decision, 271 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: which we, as you say, may get today, may get 272 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: next week. Craig Capitan with US New Zealand Herald Court 273 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: reporter covering the Polkinghorn trial. It is twenty five minutes 274 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: after five loads of your feedback coming in on Lester 275 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: Levy will get to that shortly. 276 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: The early edition show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News 277 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: Talks AV. 278 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: People are talking about Tory Farno one hundred and ninety 279 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year, having to sell a car just 280 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: to get by, and I don't want to talk about 281 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: her and her personal finances. Frankly, this is about us. 282 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: This is about us, the voters, the taxpayers, the ratepayers. 283 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: We're all forced on this ship being sailed by captains 284 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: that half of us didn't vote for, and what can 285 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: sometimes feel a little bit like the Titanic. And we 286 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: can all work more to get more. This is salary 287 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: and wages, wealth. We can all work more to get more. 288 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: We can work smarter, we can invest more, we can 289 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: grow our eggs a little bit more, and many of 290 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: us do. The media net worth of a Kiwi household 291 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one was around four hundred thousand dollars. 292 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: And some people take great risks to grow theirs and 293 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: they deserve the rewards of that. Many of us fail 294 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: in business, and we don't talk about that much. Many 295 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: have mortgage their family homes and you'll find them inside 296 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: there at nighttime, light on in the bedroom, not sleeping 297 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: with the stress of how they're going to make it work, 298 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: how they're going to keep the lights on, how they're 299 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: going to innovate, keep staff on, hire more staff, etc. 300 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: Others with one, two, three jobs to improve their lot. 301 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: And most people aspire to create more wealth, not out 302 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: of sheer selfishness. Well some do, sure, but for most 303 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: of us it's about providing for their families, leaving something 304 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: behind for their kids, and being set up so that 305 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: their husband or wife is taken care of if they 306 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: are to die early. And for most of us, wealth 307 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: is not evil. It's actually an act of loving those 308 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: people around you, those people you care about, which is 309 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: why when politicians come knocking at the door demanding a 310 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: so called wealth tax, or that the wealthy pay more, 311 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: not just income tax, but those imaginary wealth taxes too, 312 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: we get so touchy about it, don't we. We're like 313 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: when my dog's eating dinner and I try and approach it. 314 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: That's how we feel. As a collective get away, it's mine, 315 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: hands off. The irony in this is that Tory Farner 316 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: is part of the Greens who advocate for exactly this 317 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: type of approach. They say tax is love, not wealth 318 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: is love, and sure, when money is well spent and 319 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: services delivered. Maybe tax is love, but cycle bridges to 320 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: know where half million dollar bike racks, contractor and consultant 321 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: money scrambles. They don't feel like love to me. They 322 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: feel more like abuse. Bryan Bridge, twenty nine minutes after 323 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: five nineteen ninety two is the number for your feedback 324 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: this morning? Is there anything wrong with wealth? Is there 325 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: anything wrong with Tory Farner winning one hundred? 326 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, You for twenty 327 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's 328 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: furniture beds and a play at store News Talk. 329 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: Sid be Good Morning, New Zealand. Twenty four minutes away 330 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: from six two big story coming your way today. One 331 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: is the Federal Reserve in the United States is tipped 332 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: to in the next half hour cut interest rates for 333 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: the first time in four years in the world's largest economy. 334 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: What doll it mean for us? What doll it mean 335 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: for our dollar? We've got a US correspondent on the 336 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: line in a few moments time. Also here in New Zealand, 337 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: Quarter two GDP out today we're looking back. How much 338 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: did we grow by? And does a fraction of a 339 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: percent difference mean we might get more rate cuts, more 340 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: mortgage relief from Adrian or here we'll tell you with 341 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: the bnzchief economist Mike Jones before Sex. Right now, though, 342 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: can you just breathe a sigh of relief because we 343 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: narrowly escaped death last night while everyone was sleeping. This 344 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: is a stadium sized asteroid. This is a report from 345 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: the BBC, A stadium sized asteroid and another the size 346 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: of a skyscraper, big enough to destroy an entire city. Well, 347 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: they just cruised on by Earth didn't hit us, which 348 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: is good to know. I'm just wondering is it worth 349 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 2: reporting this. I mean, obviously, now that we're safe, I'm 350 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 2: telling you you know that was a stressful sleep. But 351 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 2: if we can't actually do anything about it, do you 352 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: want to be told you know? Or would you rather 353 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 2: it just comes down, bang, it's all over and you 354 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: were none the wiser. Personally, I prefer the latter. NASA 355 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: says we would need many years of warning to divert 356 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: a catastrophic asteroid strike, So I say, NASA, next time 357 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 2: you see one, just keep it to yourselves. Twenty two 358 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: away from Sex, Bryan Bridge going to our reporters around 359 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 2: the country, Calm proctors and toned in first. Colum high 360 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: water levels causing concern at a lagoon in Southland. Yeah, 361 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: this is why Tuna Lagoon. 362 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: Ryan. 363 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 5: It's currently around two and a half meters above its 364 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 5: regular height and so it's having an impact on surrounding roads, 365 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 5: paddocks and farming activities in the area. 366 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: This is just south of Vicargo. The lagoon. 367 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 5: Environment South Than says it's actively monitoring the levels and 368 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 5: assessing the options to open it up through to the sea. 369 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 5: Any opening needs to be through emergency powers under the 370 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 5: Resource Management Act, which is held by Environments South and 371 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 5: there's also an ongoing consent process here for the longer 372 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 5: term approach to y Turner Lagoon. 373 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather today, Colum. 374 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 5: Afternoon shower, some possibly heavy westerlies and seventeen today. 375 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: Have a great day, Claire sherwoods and Christs this morning, Claire. 376 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: Relief over that Sinlane deal. 377 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, this was a big story for us yesterday. Ryan shareholders, 378 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 7: of course, voted to approve a two hundred and eighteen 379 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 7: million dollar capital injection for Sinlay that comes from its 380 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 7: two largest shareholders, A two Milk and Bright Dairy. The 381 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 7: company's farmer supplier base had handed in cessation notices. They 382 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 7: were ultimately saying it was affecting milk supply from twenty 383 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 7: twenty six if not withdrawn. Former Federated Farmer's Chair Dairy 384 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 7: Chair and one of Senley's biggest suppliers, Willie Levering says 385 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 7: this is great news for the wider Canterbury region. He 386 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 7: says it's a big employer in Canterbury. In fact, I 387 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 7: think they have fourteen hundred staff. So it's really good 388 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 7: to see this light at the end of this tunnel. 389 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: Totally weather today clear. 390 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 7: Mainly fine with high cloud. Could be a shower or 391 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 7: two a bit later. Northeasterly is turning northwest from around 392 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 7: to midday. A warm one though, eighteen degrees brilliant. 393 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: Thank you Max Tols and Wellington Max. The woman who 394 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: attacked and enzid meat report has being jailed. 395 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 396 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 8: This is Rosie Modonga, who is also a person of 397 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 8: interest in the baby rou A death a case. She's 398 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 8: admitted eighteen other charges including assault, theft, wilful damage shoplifting 399 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 8: in the hut Valley District Court. She also late last 400 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 8: year after a court appearance, assaulted a reporter from our 401 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 8: newsroom as she left court. She spat on her, yanked 402 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 8: her hair, punched her several times. Our reporter dropped her bag. 403 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 8: During the assault, her phones, bank cards spilled out. They 404 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 8: were stolen used to buy spirits and artie des at 405 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 8: a nearby liquor store. In mentioning that assault, the judge 406 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 8: said the reporting of court events is vital for democracy. 407 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 8: In terms of the baby root case, no outcome in 408 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 8: that yet after some time. Modunger, of course, living in 409 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 8: the same house in Tita with Ru's mother. 410 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: Storm goodness may house your weather today max. 411 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 8: Cloudy period's the odd shower this afternoon, stronger northerlyast fourteen 412 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 8: the high central. 413 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Neva is in Auckland this morning. 414 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: Good morning, Neva. 415 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 9: Morning. 416 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 2: So what's going on with the blanket speed increases? 417 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, now look this is interesting, A planning expert says. 418 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 9: The government's blanket speed increases now they're being opposed by Auckland. 419 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 9: So a report, this is from Auckland Transport and it 420 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 9: shows forty six percent and this is the five hundred 421 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 9: residents it was surveyed, are in favor of speed reductions. 422 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 9: And this is versus thirty eight percent against three quarters 423 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 9: would accept some increase in travel time on a twenty 424 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 9: minute trip, if it helped me travels safer. 425 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: I don't believe any of this. 426 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 9: Neither you would say that you're thinking five hundred people survey, 427 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 9: does that all. 428 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: That's statistically relevant? I don't know. I don't know. I 429 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: don't know, because it depends on the question. 430 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 9: They ask, well, yes, well there you go. And so 431 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 9: Tim Welch, he's the Auckland University senior planning lecturer. He's saying, 432 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 9: look the story that Simmy and Brown's been saying, people 433 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 9: overwhelmingly want to see faster roads, but the data just 434 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 9: doesn't show that. That's what he's saying. You know why, 435 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 9: I'll say something else. I went to the supermarket yesterday and. 436 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: Am not saying to you. 437 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 9: When I went in there, I thought, yeah, I couldn't 438 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 9: believe it. But they were having they were selling center chocolate, 439 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 9: marshmallow Center Christmas. You know, chocolate's already September. I couldn't 440 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 9: believe that. 441 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: That is early. That is early. 442 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 9: And someone in the news room was saying, Camar selling 443 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 9: Christmas pajamas already, that's too early September. 444 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: Come on, I think it's pajamas are and I've never 445 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: worn pajamas personally. 446 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 10: Shut up. 447 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: Do you wear pajamas around the house? 448 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 9: Don't you wear around the house? I mean sometimes in winter. 449 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 9: I was staying pajamas for like days, days, and I 450 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 9: was thinking, one seed, what do you not? You know? 451 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 4: Do you not have. 452 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: Birthday? I must pray your one November November. I look 453 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: forward tom here. 454 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 10: That's why we get on with school. 455 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: What date? 456 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: No? 457 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 8: What dates? 458 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: You wait? Do you say nine sixteen? 459 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 4: Oh? 460 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 9: Really? 461 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: Anyway we go, we're getting carried away. Yes, how's the 462 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: weather today? 463 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 9: I was gonna say strong, wisterly, strong wisterlies. We're talking 464 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 9: in this morning, and I have to say we've got showers. 465 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 9: But nz TA sees that from three pm and seven 466 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 9: pm this afternoon, watch out for those winds and lanes 467 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 9: and speeds. Guess where Harbor Bridge Bridge may be impacted. 468 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: Eighteen high scorpios. Nice, nice people, cross us. There's a 469 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: sting in that table that's right fourteen away from six. 470 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: We're getting to our US correspondent in just a second 471 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: for some of your texts this morning. Interesting, we avoided 472 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: an asteroid, by the way, narrowly avoided an asteroid on 473 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 2: Earth overnight. The size of a football stadium could have 474 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: wiped out an entire city apparently, as somebody here says, 475 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: that was live streamed on YouTube. Okay, so it must 476 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: have been close. I was going to say, let's get 477 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: the audio, but I doubt they miked up the asteroid, 478 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: did they? And this from John who says sorry. Simon says, 479 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 2: I'm a courier driver and we're already delivering the artificial 480 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 2: Christmas trees to people and businesses. It is September fourteen to. 481 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: Six International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of 482 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: mind for New Zealand business. 483 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: Big story today the US vigual Reserve going to lower 484 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: interest rates inside the next half hour. Benji Higher is 485 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: with US, our US correspondent, Benji what are they picking? 486 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 10: Well, we don't know yet, but it's going to be 487 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 10: lower than what it was, which has been a a 488 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 10: very high level, the highest in decades, five points three percent. 489 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 10: It's been hovering around and it's going to drop. And 490 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 10: it's going to drop because the inflation numbers have improved 491 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 10: so drastically in the United States. Now this is a 492 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 10: crucial announcement both in the United States but also around 493 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 10: the world. We'll take the US. First, it is the 494 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 10: last time that America's Central Bank will be able to 495 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 10: make a change to the interest rate to burrowing costs 496 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 10: before November's election between Kamala Hawris and Donald Trump. And 497 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 10: this of course an indication that the economy from the 498 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 10: inflation front, which has been a big issue in this election, 499 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 10: is improving. That is a boost then for the vice president, 500 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 10: but of course still a few weeks to go to 501 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 10: find out what sort of impact it might have on growth, 502 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 10: which of course could play into the hands potentially of 503 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 10: former President Donald Trump. The reason this matter is beyond 504 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 10: these shores, even though of course it is Americans who 505 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 10: will be most affected by the Church change, that there 506 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 10: are central banks the world over that are tied to 507 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 10: the dollar, and so their economies will be impacted too. 508 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 10: And lower interest rates, which we think will be the 509 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 10: outcome when the decision is made very shortly, will also 510 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 10: affect how investors across the planet will invest in, you know, 511 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 10: for example stocks over savings accounts. So this is a 512 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 10: significant decision and we think it will be lowered by 513 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 10: probably quarter percent, maybe even a half a percent. And again, 514 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 10: as I said the last time, that that would happen 515 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 10: before Americans go to the polls. 516 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to check in with Mike Jones be 517 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: and Z chief economist, and just a second on what 518 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: that rate cut over in the States might mean for 519 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: us here. Very quickly though the White House, were they 520 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: aware of it's allegedly Israel behind the attack on his 521 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: the pages? Did the White House know in advance? 522 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 10: They said not, And that even more remarkable given the 523 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 10: fact that one of the Biden administration's senior advisors has 524 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 10: been in the Middle East trying to sort of cease 525 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 10: fire for Gaza. That is an addition to the U 526 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 10: s Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln, who's in Egypt again 527 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 10: holding tours, none top talks, None of them were made aware. 528 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 10: There was a very brief phone call between Israel's defense 529 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 10: secretary and America's Defense Secretary, Lloyd Austin, literally minutes before 530 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 10: those pages started exploding, and in it Israel we're told 531 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 10: explain to the United States that they will be conducting 532 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 10: an operation in Lebanon soon, but no details were shared. 533 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 10: And of course, there had been developments in past hours 534 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 10: two where there had been even more explosions, this time 535 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 10: of walky talkies across the country, so clearly still not 536 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 10: the end of that. 537 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: Story, absolutely, Binji, Thank you for that, Binji. Hire our 538 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: US correspondent just gone eleven minutes now, ten minutes away 539 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: from six and Bridge Rich quarter to two GDP numbers 540 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: out today they are looking backwards, how much did we 541 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: grow by as an economy or not. We're joined by 542 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: Mike Jones being Z in chief Economists. Good morning, Mike, 543 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: so am Z says back point one, ASB back point 544 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: three west Pac point four. What are you saying, Well, we. 545 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 11: Don't think we're going to have for pretty reading. Our 546 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 11: pickers are point four percent contraction over the court. So yeah, 547 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 11: pretty grim reading. And if we're right on that, that 548 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 11: would be the fifth quarterly contraction out of the last seven. 549 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 11: So very much in keeping with this idea that we've 550 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 11: been in a role in recession for almost two years 551 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 11: now and. 552 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: We're really feeling it. How important is the size of 553 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: this recession? You know, if if it's nearly a full percent, 554 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: I mean obviously the Reserve Bank saying half a percent, 555 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: your same point four. If it was one percent, would 556 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: we see the Reserve Bank cutting rates? You know, bigger sooner. 557 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 11: It's possible. Look as you said, the Reserve Bank has 558 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 11: braced for a pretty nasty numb're already they've got a 559 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 11: point five percent decline baked into their numbers. That's a 560 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 11: bit weekend than what we've got and probably the consensus 561 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 11: is well. So it would take a real clanger, I think, 562 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 11: to throw the Reserve Bank off its stride. And there's 563 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 11: a matter of volatile so we'll just have to see 564 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 11: what we get. Probably today that the bigger piece of 565 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 11: news for interest rates in New Zealand and the Reserve 566 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 11: Bank may well be what the US Fed A Reserve 567 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 11: does with interest rates in just a few moments totally. 568 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: We're all standing by for that. Mike Hoskins Show will 569 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: have coverage of that after six o'clock obviously once the 570 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: decisions out. But how might that affect us, Well. 571 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 11: We've obviously started the process of off cutting rates already. 572 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 11: The Reserve Bank has lower rates in August. This will 573 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 11: be the first cut from the US so we ultimately 574 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 11: go our own way on instrates. The Reserve Bank would 575 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 11: be very would be the first to say that, but 576 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 11: feder reserves still very influential for interest rates. Interest rates 577 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 11: in New Zealand have been falling wholesale rates over the 578 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 11: past couple of weeks. As we sort of look ahead 579 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 11: and baking in what's going on in the US, look 580 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 11: Bed decides to get aggressive and cut take fifty points. Well, 581 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 11: that may just put a bit more pressure on in 582 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 11: districts in this part of the world, and may just 583 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 11: embolden that the reserve back here and is Zealand to 584 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 11: do the same. 585 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: Interesting, Mike, thank you for that, Mike Jones, Benz Chief Economists. 586 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: That sped decision out now in about eight minutes and 587 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: the GDP data out later this morning. 588 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge, I want to be a billionaire, so freaking back. 589 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: So you're no care starmer, sir care starmer, a British 590 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: prime minister, savior of the masses from the evil clutches 591 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: of Tories, you know, banishing the privileged and taking the 592 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: working class issues up first. Well, two months in he's 593 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 2: declared his gifts and his freebies. He's been getting from donors, 594 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: including Walid Ali, more than what we told you about yesterday, 595 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: more gifts to support his lavish lifestyle than any other 596 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: leader in recent history from either party. Football match four 597 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: thousand pounds at the Taylor Swift including hospitality nine hundred 598 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: pounds for Coldplay tickets, clothing twelve thousand pounds, accommodation worth 599 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: twenty thousand pounds and glasses. You know how where's glasses? Guests? 600 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: How much they cost? Five thousand New Zealand dollars? Are 601 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: they made of gold? Thank you Lord Ali? Goodness me? 602 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: And what does he get in return? He gets a 603 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: free pass to number ten Downing Street. Seven to six. 604 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 10: A different. 605 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with 606 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and 607 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 3: a playing store on news Talk z. 608 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: BE five to six. Lots of people say, actually, leave 609 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: Lester Levy alone. He is doing the job of Commissioner 610 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: of Health New Zealand but also doing a couple of 611 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: days a week lecturing at university and says, I have 612 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: done that before. He's doing seventy hours a week in 613 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: his house role. What more can you ask of him? 614 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: Mike Costkin is in the studio, He's with you next night. 615 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: I tend to agree, I've done the numbers. 616 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 12: So if you say he said ten to twelve hours 617 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 12: a day, so let's give him ten and you do 618 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 12: that for a seventy hour week. 619 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 6: You do. 620 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 12: I can't remember. It was three thousand, three hundred and 621 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 12: something hours in the year that rolls out at ninety 622 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 12: five for three hundred and twenty thousand dollars that rolls 623 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 12: out at ninety five dollars now. 624 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 2: Also, he's not running Health New Zealand's arper's job. He's 625 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 2: just basically a direction. 626 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 12: He's a consultant who's looking at what's going on how 627 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 12: to fix it. So if you're putting in that many 628 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 12: hours for that amount of money at ninety five dollars 629 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 12: now because the media always get angsty about that stuff. 630 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 12: Three you know, I mean ninety five dollars now, my 631 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 12: headdress of charges more than that. So and this is 632 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 12: guy running the whole publicize. Also, he's on three training, 633 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 12: but Tory's on one hundred and ninety. 634 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 2: But you can't make ends me. You've got to sell 635 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: a car to board thing. See tomorrow, It's beautiful. 636 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 3: For more from News Talk st B, listen live on 637 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 638 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.