1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Darcy Walter Graves here was sport Darcy, Good afternoon. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 2: Ryan, good afternoon to yourself. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: TJ Pier and are the protest the haker? We've had 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: the full rundown in the Herald today. What's your take. 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: That you use any situation you can to push your cause, 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: but you do not do it as the leader of 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: a hakker representing not only the All Blacks but the 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: entire nation. That's not right. 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: And the thing that got me was that he didn't 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: ask his teammates. I mean, you know, like it doesn't 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: matter whether it's rugby or what the situation is. If 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: you're in a team environment and you're going to make 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: something that's so significant, a significant move, you consult with him, 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: don't you. 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: I'd think so. I just think it shows I know 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: he is very passionate about that. A lot of people are. 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: I know that politically that's the way Eileen as well. 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: But to drag the whole team without them knowing exactly 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: what you're going to do, that's just mean. It's just 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: you can't do that to the rest of the team. 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: That Look, it's a case of in spead of asking 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: a mission, he's going to beg. 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: For forgive exactly at the end of it. 24 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: I just don't think. 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: I don't because the guys that they had no choice 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: but to do the hacker and they were none the 27 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: wiser so they and a lot of them probably didn't 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: even know what they were Marty. 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: They had no idea about what he was actually, So 30 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: I don't think the message was a bad message, but 31 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: the fact that he said, if you don't let me 32 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: say something, I'm gonna I'm not going to lead the harker, 33 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to walk. So it puts New Zealand Rugby 34 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: in a really difficult position the lesser of two evils. 35 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: Do we let him do it and risk blowback or 36 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: do we get rid of him and people start going 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: where's TJ on the very last match? So difficult situation 38 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: for them to be. It is. 39 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Indeed, Super Rugby has done this big season, launch a 40 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: ton of players that injured already and we're not even 41 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: got a first game yet. 42 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: No, and if you look at the Crusaders, and I'd 43 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: say a vast amount of Super fans couldn't care less 44 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 2: and they'll be pointing and laughing. They've I think they're 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: injury tolls in double figus down. I mean, Cody Taylor's 46 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: the latest out, Brandon Enna's gone, You've got Quentin Stranger, Hannah, 47 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: You've got McNulty. It just goes on and on and on. 48 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: Sam Darry he's been invalid out of the Aland side. 49 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's a few more sniffing around, but 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: most of the all the coaches have said, we're going 51 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: to work it out and integrate these guys. We can't 52 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: just throw them straight back in again. The problem here 53 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: is it's the start of the super season. What do 54 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: you want to do. You want to put your best 55 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: foot forward. You want to show the punters. These are 56 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: our rock stars, these are our all blacks, these are 57 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: the best players. Yet these guys have only just come 58 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: back after an Northern tour, They've had some r and 59 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: r as, they need their retraining again, and suddenly they 60 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: get thrown into the thick of it. I'm not quite 61 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: sure it's good for the well being of athletes long term, 62 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: and then there'd be something there. So like your athletes, 63 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: just play, if your break so well, get the next 64 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: quick going, move on, Let's get another one. So then 65 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: it gets underway. On the fourteenth, the launch happened now 66 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: and their big new package, their Fantasy Super Rugby is 67 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: to date underway. 68 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: Tomorrow sorry Friday, finally, so it will be in time 69 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: and on time. I should say that's something. Thank you, Darcy. 70 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: We'll see you seven enjoy tomorrow. Thank you very much, 71 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: Darcy Wildegrave with us Heavy with you at seven For 72 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to news talks. 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 74 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio