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Speaker 2: For Christmas Day and a very good afternoon too you.
Speaker 2: I'm Tim Beverage. Welcome to the Weekend Collective out, second
Speaker 2: to last one for the year. This is Saturday, the
Speaker 2: twenty first of December. In just a moment the panel,
Speaker 2: by the way, just a note on the Pogues, because
Speaker 2: I think a week ago I think I bagged the
Speaker 2: song a bit like, oh yeah, the Pogues and snippies Christmas.
Speaker 2: Everyone's banging on about it. Then I had a closer
Speaker 2: listen to it, and I just the production of it
Speaker 2: and everything. I don't know, maybe I just got into
Speaker 2: the Christmas spirit. But I actually kind of love the
Speaker 2: song and I've been flogging it to death ever since
Speaker 2: I bagged it, so maybe anyway, there we go. Welcome
Speaker 2: to the show, and an advance, and Merry Christmas to
Speaker 2: you all. Looking just a bit, a little bit further
Speaker 2: to the rest of the show. From four o'clock for
Speaker 2: the One Roof Radio Show, Ed McKnight joins us. He's
Speaker 2: a resident economist at Op's partners have a chat about
Speaker 2: getting out the crystal ball and property predictions for the
Speaker 2: new year on the back of the miserable news we
Speaker 2: got on the High Fou. High fo sounds like it's
Speaker 2: some sort of exercise ball, doesn't it. I'm getting the
Speaker 2: high Foo out, but it's actually just a depressing reporter
Speaker 2: about the government's books. And then for five o'clock for
Speaker 2: the Parents Squad, John Cowan joins us and talking about
Speaker 2: how far do you you know? How far do you
Speaker 2: let your relatives comment on your child's I don't know
Speaker 2: how much they've got on their plate their behavior, avoiding
Speaker 2: conflict at Christmas or do you just hold your breath
Speaker 2: in and say goodbye and then wait for next Christmas.
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Speaker 2: for the panel and to introduce my panelists. We'll get
Speaker 2: into it. He is a he's an ar restaurateur. He
Speaker 2: has been an entrepreneur and he's currently busy keeping himself
Speaker 2: busy with real estate. And his name is Luke Dalla Goode.
Speaker 5: Louk. How are you going great? Weite Helm, very good.
Speaker 3: I've been in the garden today getting out the Christmas
Speaker 3: potatoes with my son's flatmates and have you a great
Speaker 3: old time.
Speaker 2: Actually the new potatoes is I think if you can
Speaker 2: get them ay with a bit of uno buttery mints.
Speaker 3: Beaten, especially out of your own garden too, So these
Speaker 3: boys know how to garden.
Speaker 2: Haven't been a restaurateur. Are you also quite a good
Speaker 2: cook or do you do? You sort of hire people
Speaker 2: to do that, and you've hired people to do that
Speaker 2: gig for you.
Speaker 5: Oh I love cooking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sort of a pantry. I look at a pantry,
Speaker 3: whip something up and go from the I've just.
Speaker 2: Thought of it. I'm going to throw another topic into
Speaker 2: the maxwell thrown at the end because I've got a
Speaker 2: really hot take on what is a good key we dinner?
Speaker 2: Say a think about that? Boys? And when I say boys,
Speaker 2: that's a clue. My next guest is a boy. He's
Speaker 2: a man. Actually he's fully he's all growing up and
Speaker 2: he's he's the host of the Nutters Club. He's a
Speaker 2: psychotherapist and he's a regular panelist with me. Now I
Speaker 2: think we could say Carle McDonald, yeah, Cura, Yes, good afternoon.
Speaker 2: How are you doing?
Speaker 4: Oh look, I'm really well. I this is my last
Speaker 4: work act of the year. Is here? Put the old?
Speaker 4: Put the old out of office on yesterday about four
Speaker 4: o'clock and walked out of the office. And that was me.
Speaker 2: Did you literally hang out out of the office sign?
Speaker 2: What do you have a does it just say out
Speaker 2: of office?
Speaker 4: Formerly you have some sort of in the old email
Speaker 4: out of Oh that technological? Sorry I thought you mean
Speaker 4: you hang a sign on the door?
Speaker 5: Literally, yeah, I post it note on the door.
Speaker 2: Not a good thing to do with your home when
Speaker 2: you go on holidays.
Speaker 5: No, great are.
Speaker 2: Actually yes, I'm going to save that other topic I've
Speaker 2: just been brewing, because we'll get into the what I
Speaker 2: touched on before. I'm not sure how strong you guys
Speaker 2: are in economics. I sort of griped my teeth a bit.
Speaker 2: But the report came out from Treasury, the state of
Speaker 2: the government's books. I think they call it the half
Speaker 2: the half yearly. Oh, come than out something up to
Speaker 2: date and update with the word financing there. But anyway,
Speaker 2: it doesn't look good the government's books. They've got less
Speaker 2: money to spend because productivity is down, and it's all
Speaker 2: a bit miserable in a way. My first question would be, Luke,
Speaker 2: there's a part of me that in this job you think, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, and if I was looking to get into business,
Speaker 2: I'd be worried about what this tells us about the
Speaker 2: amount of money sloshing around. But for many people, they
Speaker 2: are just thinking, well, as long as they can hang
Speaker 2: on to my job, I don't really care. Where are
Speaker 2: you at with this sort of stuff?
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's just a lo we're just washing
Speaker 3: up what the previous government's just overspent. Right, So it's
Speaker 3: a good time. I believe it's a good time to
Speaker 3: get into business because it's at an infant stage and
Speaker 3: things that are going to get better and better and better.
Speaker 3: We have to realize that things are going to get
Speaker 3: better and better. We've got to speak positively as well,
Speaker 3: and sometimes media doesn't speak that positive about things, but
Speaker 3: we need to start speaking and thinking positive within the
Speaker 3: New Zealand, within the New Zealand business.
Speaker 2: I think there's some quite famous, famously successful business people
Speaker 2: who have actually said, the time when everyone's sort of
Speaker 2: crying into their corn flakes. That's my quote, not theirs,
Speaker 2: but that's my analogy. Is actually the time to get
Speaker 2: cracking when there is a recession, that's time to start
Speaker 2: marshaling and really get planning because when it kicks into action,
Speaker 2: you're ready. Is that the approach you'd take.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 3: You've got to be a head of the game and
Speaker 3: you've got to get You've got to get a head
Speaker 3: of the game. You've got to start now. If you
Speaker 3: got the money, do it now, get into business because
Speaker 3: it's only going to get better.
Speaker 2: Quite a big f, isn't it, Kyle, if you've got
Speaker 2: the money.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: What was your response to that news?
Speaker 4: Oh well, I mean what I start. What I look at,
Speaker 4: of course, you know, is the way in which the
Speaker 4: health system in particular but also education has been really
Speaker 4: struggling this last year. For not just for funding, but
Speaker 4: I think for morale. It's interesting. I read sort of
Speaker 4: three columns this week in the in the wonderful paper
Speaker 4: that is the New Zealand Herald, and they all talked
Speaker 4: about the various sort of views on the economic situation.
Speaker 4: Not a single one of them mentioned tax and I think,
Speaker 4: you know, we talk a lot about how the government
Speaker 4: is struggling to pay the costs, you know, but fundamentally
Speaker 4: we look at one side of the balance, which is,
Speaker 4: you know, how how are we going to reduce costs?
Speaker 4: But everyone's terrified about bringing up the tea word. Politically,
Speaker 4: of course, the problem is the government doesn't necessarily have
Speaker 4: enough income to provide the infrastructure that Cawy want.
Speaker 2: I think this is this is where we get to
Speaker 2: the sort of classic left right sort of divide on this,
Speaker 2: isn't it, Because there'd be those who say, you don't
Speaker 2: tax your way to prosperity. You've got to create the
Speaker 2: conditions where we can build our productivity.
Speaker 1: Don't.
Speaker 4: But it seems you can get you can tax cut
Speaker 4: your way to an election, one which I think cynically
Speaker 4: as part of the problem that you know, buying the
Speaker 4: electorates is one way to get to win an election.
Speaker 4: But part of the problem is, you know, we've got
Speaker 4: a massive infrastructure deficit in this country. When we look
Speaker 4: at health, when we look at road, and we look
Speaker 4: at public transport, we've got some issues.
Speaker 5: I mean, I.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't mind paying more tax if I knew the government
Speaker 3: was going to spend it correctly right in the right areas, teaching, health,
Speaker 3: the police, crime, they there, keep it there. I'm haby
Speaker 3: to pay more and more tax.
Speaker 2: It's actually it's an interesting philosophical thing. But it's a
Speaker 2: bit like the whole toll roads that some people hate
Speaker 2: the idea of toll roads. But actually, you know what,
Speaker 2: most isn't it funny? There was some argument about this.
Speaker 2: I can't remember where it is. I think it's a
Speaker 2: wood bill around and they're not going to be paying
Speaker 2: a toll, but.
Speaker 5: They objected to the top.
Speaker 2: But the funny thing is the cost and petrol for
Speaker 2: the other road they've been doing. If you paying a
Speaker 2: two dollars fifty toll, I don't mind paying for those things.
Speaker 2: But then that's that's a choice, and I think that
Speaker 2: is it is that con that obvious divide about what
Speaker 2: should the state be providing just full stop, and what
Speaker 2: are the things where we actually are like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'll pay for that myself. I don't mind. I mean
Speaker 2: whereabout to you on that?
Speaker 4: Oh look, I'll be fine if I genuinely believe that
Speaker 4: it was that thought through. I think what happens is
Speaker 4: we cut taxes to win elections and then have to
Speaker 4: sort of backfill all of the gaps and funding that
Speaker 4: are obviously there. Like roads is kind of one of
Speaker 4: those basics, isn't it that you know? And I think
Speaker 4: it does sting some people when you feel like, well,
Speaker 4: you're paying your taxes and then you've got to pay
Speaker 4: extra for all these other things.
Speaker 5: User pays, user pays. I'm right into it, user pays.
Speaker 2: So if you take how far would you take that? Though?
Speaker 2: Because I mean, people like Roger Douglas would say he's
Speaker 2: had a crack at the Act Again. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think you know all politicians have. Being crack at their
Speaker 2: former party is nothing new, is it. I think his
Speaker 2: theory is that better doest to give people more money
Speaker 2: and let them buy their own health insurance. But the
Speaker 2: problem is it's a bit like saying give them all
Speaker 2: more money and they'll do their own retirement, but they don't,
Speaker 2: and so there is it's trying to find that role
Speaker 2: where the state just has to go, Look, we have
Speaker 2: to make sure that there's a blank there's a safety
Speaker 2: net for everyone. And you know what I mean, where
Speaker 2: do you draw the line? Do you think we should
Speaker 2: have more money? And look, if you want to get
Speaker 2: health care, you go buy your own insurance.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think also in text you go, right, the first
Speaker 3: two hundred bucks and texts that I pay goes to
Speaker 3: health The second two hundred dollars a tax goes to police.
Speaker 3: Oh you'd like to have the choice, Well, no, no,
Speaker 3: this is your higdred this is where it goes, like
Speaker 3: this is where my money's going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kyle, Yeah, I think we can only have to
Speaker 4: look at America to see how well they held user
Speaker 4: pay system with health goes.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Actually would I would, just in a Christmas sense,
Speaker 6: push back against the notion of tax cuts if you're
Speaker 6: referring to the to the shifting of the tax brackets,
Speaker 6: because that's only because I'd be totally dishonest if I
Speaker 6: didn't say, because for years and years the tax.
Speaker 2: Brackets have been where they are and as as inflation
Speaker 2: creeps in the average way journer pays a higher and
Speaker 2: higher proportion of their tax, and I one hundred percent
Speaker 2: thought that that was highly overdue.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty hard to take you against that. I agree,
Speaker 4: but there's lots of other things that could be done.
Speaker 4: But I'm a bit scared about bringing that capital gainst.
Speaker 5: I might get through it.
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing I mean, I think the capital
Speaker 2: gains tax is it's not as straightforward, right, and there
Speaker 2: are a lot of people who think, actually, you know what,
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily object to it, but it's just in
Speaker 2: how it's going to be implemented and who it would
Speaker 2: affect and things like that. That's when the rubber hits the
Speaker 2: road that everyone's going to have so many different which
Speaker 2: is why different opinions. But the idea that it's going
Speaker 2: to cool the real estate market is Frankly, I think
Speaker 2: I can say bollocks on radio. Oops you just did. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But it's nonsense because it's a bit like hey, Tim,
Speaker 2: we're going to give you a pay rise and we're
Speaker 2: going to pay you a million bucks a year. Do
Speaker 2: you want to do it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I'm going to be paying more tax on that?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Thanks, if money is to be made, who cares? If
Speaker 2: you're paying tax on it?
Speaker 5: Who cares?
Speaker 4: Loke exactly, who cares?
Speaker 3: If you're gonna make money, you pay text on it.
Speaker 3: So if you've got fifteen properties and you're making money
Speaker 3: of it, money out of it, brilliant.
Speaker 5: Good on you.
Speaker 2: Actually on the mood thing, because news we can talk
Speaker 2: about GDP being down. I think we've touched on that.
Speaker 2: Let's not get too depressed at Christmas time.
Speaker 5: But actually I've got a little line here, right, Have.
Speaker 2: You got a little line?
Speaker 3: Stay alive through twenty five, then thrive and come alive
Speaker 3: in twenty six.
Speaker 2: Are you standing for politics?
Speaker 5: No? But I reckon twenty five. Is it's going to
Speaker 5: be another tough year?
Speaker 2: I think it might be. But did you notice that
Speaker 2: I managed to continue your ryme? Yep? Anyway. I mean
Speaker 2: that's the problem is words like recession do make you
Speaker 2: feel a bit.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: Then I liked what you were saying about you know.
Speaker 4: Actually we've got to watch how we talk about these
Speaker 4: things because I think it can become self perpetuating. Right,
Speaker 4: everybody's being told that everything's going bad, and then everyone
Speaker 4: puts their check books away, everyone stops spending and actually
Speaker 4: but self perpetuating. I think the important thing is if
Speaker 4: you do have a bit of extra money to spare,
Speaker 4: make sure you get out to the local businesses. Make
Speaker 4: sure you know, you pop down to the local bars,
Speaker 4: local cafes. One of the things we always try and
Speaker 4: do when we're on summer holidays is always try and
Speaker 4: spend some money in the local community. Make sure you
Speaker 4: try all the cafes, and you know, go and buy
Speaker 4: some things from the shops, because that summertime is when
Speaker 4: people rely on that income.
Speaker 5: Spread the love resolutely.
Speaker 2: Actually, how important is that from it I mean from
Speaker 2: a psychotherapist point of view, in terms of the way
Speaker 2: we approach things and the way we define challenges we've got.
Speaker 2: If you feel it's bad, it's a bit like somebody says, Look,
Speaker 2: if you think you're losing, you're probably right because your
Speaker 2: mentality is there. How much can people make a difference
Speaker 2: to their lives and their general well being simply by
Speaker 2: the way they approach bad news.
Speaker 4: Well, I think the thing to be careful of is,
Speaker 4: you know, what's the old saying. You get eleven economists
Speaker 4: in a room and they'll come up with twelve different
Speaker 4: opinions to a certain extent. There's a bit of crystal
Speaker 4: ball gazing with this stuff, isn't there. So actually I
Speaker 4: think it's about, you know, making sure that you're on
Speaker 4: top of your own personal circumstance and being sensible about it,
Speaker 4: but also not buying into the not buying into the pessimism.
Speaker 4: You know, I think, make good decisions for yourself and
Speaker 4: if you had a little bit extra to spend, don't
Speaker 4: feel scared to spend it.
Speaker 2: Actually know. The other thing is, at least the sun
Speaker 2: will be shining most of the summer. If we're going
Speaker 2: to be dealing with a recession, hopefully, then you know,
Speaker 2: at least we've got good weather.
Speaker 4: Beach is a free toom.
Speaker 2: That's the one, just look just before we go to
Speaker 2: the break. I was surprised by this one. The Easter
Speaker 2: trading bill doesn't pass, so there's always discussions around, you know,
Speaker 2: the freedom of choice and things, and retailers want this,
Speaker 2: they want the ability to trade. There have been examples
Speaker 2: brought up that you can catch a flight on a
Speaker 2: New Zealand on Good Friday and Easter and all the
Speaker 2: shops at the airport are trading, and yet you could
Speaker 2: cross the street to the mall and they have to
Speaker 2: be shut, which is a good argument. I can see
Speaker 2: Luke's absolutely like a He's like a race horse at
Speaker 2: the gate here. He's ready to burst out. But I
Speaker 2: don't philosophically, I can't justify keeping the stores closed, except
Speaker 2: then I go, hang on, who'd want the shops to
Speaker 2: be happen on Christmas Day?
Speaker 4: Either?
Speaker 2: So we do create these exceptions, and I kind of think, Look,
Speaker 2: if you're thinking of buying a new couch on Good Friday,
Speaker 2: you'll go to the shops on Saturday.
Speaker 3: But over to you, Luke, I am all for closing
Speaker 3: Good Friday, Easter Sunday and Christmas Day. It's a community day,
Speaker 3: it's a family day. It's been embracing who you've got,
Speaker 3: and that's what.
Speaker 5: I'm all for. Can we have a couple of days.
Speaker 3: That we don't have to think about business. I've been
Speaker 3: in business with thirty five years. Easter Weekend was the
Speaker 3: one I was looking forward to because I knew I
Speaker 3: wasn't working.
Speaker 2: I wasn't anticipating that response because you just had this
Speaker 2: really come on to me, have my say, Whereas Carl's like,
Speaker 2: I'll speak when I'm ready I.
Speaker 4: Mean, I agree. I mean I think it's too easy
Speaker 4: to get caught up in everything needed to be open
Speaker 4: all of the time. I mean, I'm not particular religious,
Speaker 4: so the religious aspect doesn't It doesn't mean a lot
Speaker 4: to me, it means a lot to other people. But
Speaker 4: as you say, their family days, I think the thing
Speaker 4: to be really thoughtful about is it's often minimum mage
Speaker 4: workers and the young who end up working on those days.
Speaker 4: And actually it's very easy for people who don't have
Speaker 4: to work on those days to decide they should be open.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my goodness, I think we sort of all agree.
Speaker 2: I just can't logically argue for it, except on your
Speaker 2: on your point about you know, maybe they're just so
Speaker 2: what if it's a religious festival? Is the reason every
Speaker 2: and now and again we people take the day off
Speaker 2: except for the shops at the airport, and which is
Speaker 2: a weird one. Oh yeah, the garden say something. I
Speaker 2: love the fact you mentioned that, because it's literally you're
Speaker 2: doing talk back on Easter Sunday, and you know, top
Speaker 2: of the list garden centers versus. Anyway, Hey, look we're
Speaker 2: going to be back. Well, lots more to talk talk about.
Speaker 2: Tim Beverage. This is the weekend. Collect my guests Luke
Speaker 2: Dallo and car MacDonald. We'll be back in just a moment.
Speaker 2: Twenty two past three talks. He'd be all the weather
Speaker 2: outside is paid for what the fire is so delightful.
Speaker 4: And since we've not pleased to go, let it snow,
Speaker 4: let it stow, let it snow.
Speaker 2: Man to welcome back to the week and leave the panel.
Speaker 2: My guess Luke dallow and car m MacDonald. A document that
Speaker 2: we've given to the guys has a photo of me
Speaker 2: from my Christmas album. Looks like is this you? I
Speaker 2: was like, no, this is Dean Martin anyway, but thanks
Speaker 2: for I think that's a compliment. Thanks Luke anyway. Actually,
Speaker 2: just before we get into things into our next sort
Speaker 2: of topic about the minimum wage, there has been a
Speaker 2: bit of discussion this year, in the last few days
Speaker 2: about the politician of the year, and everyone's got their favorite.
Speaker 2: I don't think there is an official politician of the year.
Speaker 2: Maybe some of the pundits came and they averaged them
Speaker 2: out and it was Erica stand Kyle. Who's your politician
Speaker 2: of the year.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm going to be boringly predictive, but mine's Chloe Swabrick.
Speaker 4: I think she's carried the Green Party pretty much on
Speaker 4: her own since James Shaw left done with Manema's cancer
Speaker 4: diagnosis unfortunately, and that's a it's a tough role because
Speaker 4: not only have you got the members, you've also got
Speaker 4: them a membership of the party. So yeah, she'd be
Speaker 4: my she doesn't.
Speaker 2: She does look like the mantle of the leadership is
Speaker 2: hanging heavily around his shoulders because there was a deafness
Speaker 2: of touch.
Speaker 5: Terrible.
Speaker 4: Yet he's gone one passed away.
Speaker 5: Sadly.
Speaker 4: It's been a really rough year for them.
Speaker 2: Mind you, they could have probably hastened Darling Tana's except
Speaker 2: but never mind. Uh Luke, you're Politician of the year.
Speaker 5: Well I'm going Winston Peters.
Speaker 2: But minister racing.
Speaker 3: Minister racing because he's banning greyhound racing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that is great. We've all been
Speaker 5: talking about it.
Speaker 3: It's a real mean sport and that's great and he's
Speaker 3: actually done.
Speaker 4: It green policy too, by the way.
Speaker 2: Actually I was surprised about that because I don't know.
Speaker 2: You just think, mistery of racing, you're into anything where
Speaker 2: if it runs and you can bet on it, that
Speaker 2: then I'm your man. But then suddenly, I mean I
Speaker 2: did some talk on this, and I've heard from greyhound
Speaker 2: owners and racers who loved their animals and they were
Speaker 2: pushing back against it and things. But I think they're up.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to win this one.
Speaker 4: I think it's yeah, I know, I think it was
Speaker 4: a good move. I mean my understanding is that it
Speaker 4: can be a bit it can be a bit more
Speaker 4: cruelman horse racing, and it's also kind of business wise
Speaker 4: on the dive a bit. So yeah, I agree, good.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm not interesting actually on the greyhounds terrible.
Speaker 2: It's also worth messing. I think as a as a
Speaker 2: foreign minister, Winston's been on fire. I mean quite a
Speaker 2: transition from someone who in the campaigning mode I didn't
Speaker 2: like him at all, and yet you know now he's
Speaker 2: in the job.
Speaker 4: I think it's hilarious when you listen to him interviewed.
Speaker 4: Is that there's two Winston's as the New Zealand first
Speaker 4: leader that turns up and just rips into everything, and
Speaker 4: then you get the foreign minister and it's all very calm,
Speaker 4: diplomat mode. I don't know whether he has two modes
Speaker 4: that he switched if we still.
Speaker 2: Had decent comedy sketch shows, you can probably do a
Speaker 2: sketch about that. You've had New Zealand first Winston and
Speaker 2: deputy Prime Minister, and you could interview them both at once. Actually,
Speaker 2: you will be surprised at my Politician of the Year
Speaker 2: because I almost disagree with myself, but then I argue
Speaker 2: why it is, and then I think, no, he has
Speaker 2: to be Politician of the Year and so not so
Speaker 2: exciting as choosing Winston. It's luxon and the reason is
Speaker 2: he himself isn't rocking and rolling in the publicity stakes
Speaker 2: right and the popularity stakes. But in my view, he
Speaker 2: has a team of ministers who are all working hard
Speaker 2: on task and there'll be an argument about with what
Speaker 2: measure of success. And to me, he's put together that coalition.
Speaker 2: He got Seymour and Winston talking to each other and
Speaker 2: they seem to have a even if it's a grudging respect,
Speaker 2: there seems to be a level of And I was thinking,
Speaker 2: he's the Prime minister, it's his job to put that
Speaker 2: team together and have those two political leaders working together,
Speaker 2: and you know what it is, and I sort of
Speaker 2: think he has to be Politician of the Year. Even
Speaker 2: though you're not going to see him, you know, necessarily
Speaker 2: winning the cuddling baby steaks type of thing. Do I
Speaker 2: make a case, Guys, here we go.
Speaker 3: I see what you're coming from, because there's actually he's
Speaker 3: picked those people for those roles and for what he's doing.
Speaker 3: And then I noticed that most of his interviews, if
Speaker 3: there's any debate or he just says, my minister is
Speaker 3: looking after it, which is the best way of doing it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I like the fact that the
Speaker 2: team has become more prominent. Kyle, tell me why I'm wrong? Well,
Speaker 2: do you great?
Speaker 4: You were entitled to your opinion. I think my concern
Speaker 4: is that I'm not sure all national voters would necessarily
Speaker 4: agree because it does feel a bit like act and
Speaker 4: he's in the first to kind of running the ship
Speaker 4: at times. So but yeah, look, I mean I guess
Speaker 4: I will say he's gotten better.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: Well, I think if we had a sound effect for
Speaker 2: a round of applause, well then we would play that
Speaker 2: right now. But my producer tires too busy daydreaming about
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson. Are we going to talk about later on?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 2: By the way, look, we do need to let people
Speaker 2: know if you're listening, then there has been a widespread
Speaker 2: power outage in the Hawk's Bay region. Transpowers is a
Speaker 2: lightning strike has caused the outages. They're working on fixing
Speaker 2: the issue if you can, if you're in that region
Speaker 2: and you're still able to hear this announcement, obviously because
Speaker 2: some won't. We'll have more at the top of the
Speaker 2: hour on the news and the updout on that. So
Speaker 2: just to let you know, last sort of mild Well,
Speaker 2: that wasn't a heavy topic, was it. Politician the year
Speaker 2: celebrating someone shouldn't be ah, but the minimum wage increase
Speaker 2: in April, it's only going at one and a half percent,
Speaker 2: twenty three dollars fifty an hour. There will be those
Speaker 2: who will say that that's a woeful increase, and there'll
Speaker 2: be those who say, well, we have one of the
Speaker 2: highest minimum wage increases minimum wages in the world, the
Speaker 2: developed world. And I hate to the problem I think
Speaker 2: we've got just before I throw to you guys, is
Speaker 2: the minimum wage is not an ideal wage, and it
Speaker 2: should never be the ideal wage. I think we need
Speaker 2: to aspire that people are not on the minimum wage
Speaker 2: that becomes the standard. Kyle, what do you reckon?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I mean, looking at it in isolation, it's tricky,
Speaker 4: isn't it, Because I mean it's not a living wage. No,
Speaker 4: And certainly one of my big concerns about things like
Speaker 4: the minimum wages is a bit like minimum building standards
Speaker 4: that people aim for them rather than setting a floor.
Speaker 4: But it's probably much more easy to live on the
Speaker 4: minimum wage and timuru than it is in Auckland for instance.
Speaker 2: Well so if you're someone fresh out of school on
Speaker 2: your first job and somebody's giving you a chance, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the thing. If you're holding it to be No
Speaker 2: one can live and buy a house in Auckland on
Speaker 2: this wage. Well yeah, but I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: what it's for Luke.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think it's a token gesture to increase
Speaker 3: the minimum wage.
Speaker 5: That's all it is.
Speaker 3: It's like another fourteen dollars for a forty a week,
Speaker 3: and what do you do with fourteen dollars? Can you
Speaker 3: pay your brorge with that? No, it's a token gesture.
Speaker 3: They should have held all of it and maybe put
Speaker 3: a double up in the next year or something like that.
Speaker 2: Actually, you think they would have been more meaningful as
Speaker 2: to say, look, we're not going to mind you. They
Speaker 2: get a pasting, wouldn't they, So you'd be probably right.
Speaker 2: It is a token gesture. Yeah, I guess that's all
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, okay, moving on. Then we've done the
Speaker 2: minimum wage. But on the other thing. The other things
Speaker 2: that are up is domestic flight costs are up something
Speaker 2: like ten point eight percent in November. This is according
Speaker 2: to Stats New Zealand. The cost of domestic accommodation. I
Speaker 2: think that's tourist accommodation rose by six point nine percent.
Speaker 2: It's apparently related to as well. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: coincides with performance is by several global artists around New Zealand.
Speaker 2: Do you think this is a cynical thing that we
Speaker 2: see these airfes go up? Or I mean I see
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. I mean it does sound like it's
Speaker 2: tough to do business. But I kind of do get
Speaker 2: annoyed when the affairs seem to go up just when
Speaker 2: everyone wants to fly. But is it supply and demand?
Speaker 2: Cal We'll go with you.
Speaker 4: I find they're pricing pretty impenetrable. I mean it's a
Speaker 4: bit like you know, it's pure supply and demand, right,
Speaker 4: So the closer you get to the time, the more
Speaker 4: expensive flights become. One of the weird things about New
Speaker 4: Zealand is it We're so small and there's so little
Speaker 4: actual competition and so many you know, little flights that
Speaker 4: you know, it can cost more to fly sort of
Speaker 4: from here to Napier than it can to fly to
Speaker 4: christ You Sometimes it's a bit crazy, really. I mean
Speaker 4: I can understand their business and they've got to make money,
Speaker 4: but it does smack a bit when you're sort of
Speaker 4: the New Zealand taxpayers shareholders as well and prop them
Speaker 4: up through COVID. It sort of does bite, doesn't it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have a lingering sort of resentment that I might
Speaker 2: not be able to logically justify, you know, when you're
Speaker 2: just bloody annoyed.
Speaker 3: I get annoyed with it all the time because I
Speaker 3: had my son's graduation earlier this year and I booked
Speaker 3: it like eight months out and it was bloom and
Speaker 3: high because they worked out that eOne wants to go
Speaker 3: to a targo, so they put the prices up and
Speaker 3: it was already I mean, how much do they come?
Speaker 2: How much did it cost to to go return?
Speaker 3: Roughly eighteen? Oh yeah, see eight and ten dollars. I
Speaker 3: mean that's money. There's a lot of money for a
Speaker 3: whole family to go down.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be honest. I'm well, I'm always honest on
Speaker 2: the show, of course. But it's just a nice little
Speaker 2: sort of a bit of verbal meaningless verbiage. But we're
Speaker 2: not sure what we're doing for a holiday. When when
Speaker 2: I finished doing breakfast and we've got about ten days
Speaker 2: and you look at flying somewhere around the country or
Speaker 2: going down to ourtown. I love that. I do love
Speaker 2: that part of the world, even though in the school
Speaker 2: holidays everyone screws New Zealand families for as much money
Speaker 2: as they can get, which does cause I'm building some
Speaker 2: resentment about that.
Speaker 4: Well fair enough, because at the same time we've been
Speaker 4: told we're not allowed to take our kids out of
Speaker 4: school anymore.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: Again, We're getting it from both ends, I know.
Speaker 2: And that sounds painful and we're but anyway, I went
Speaker 2: to I went to the flight center and got them
Speaker 2: to budget a holiday to go to Australia. And you
Speaker 2: know what flights wise, I must just go to was
Speaker 2: he go to Sydney, go to Brisbane and go to
Speaker 2: Melbourne On New New Zealand. Actually, to be honest, who
Speaker 2: cares when you go to you know, you look for
Speaker 2: the reputable lines and just go for the best deal.
Speaker 2: But it does kind of great, doesn't it? That here
Speaker 2: to christ Churchen return, Okay, I can imagine that the
Speaker 2: New Zealand's response as it would be, And I don't
Speaker 2: want to beat up on them too much because you
Speaker 2: know they're not exactly creaming. It would be that you've
Speaker 2: just got to get in early, that's right.
Speaker 3: But also what New Zealand got is nine planes that
Speaker 3: are on the ground waiting for parts. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 3: a lot of planes to be on the ground, it is,
Speaker 3: so that's causing demand as well. And I don't want
Speaker 3: to use that excuse, but that is we all turn
Speaker 3: around defending.
Speaker 4: Is as an infrastructure solutioner here of course as well
Speaker 4: high speed rail Winston get how high railways onto it?
Speaker 2: How high speed are we talking.
Speaker 4: Way four hundred and something kilumitus an hour in Japan?
Speaker 4: About three hours?
Speaker 2: You can't even get just enormal thake big ten. Actually,
Speaker 2: I would love imagine New Zealand with high speed two
Speaker 2: and a half three hours to Wellington Bang. How much
Speaker 2: would it cost?
Speaker 5: Forty five bucks.
Speaker 4: Bring the capital gains text and cover the whole lot.
Speaker 2: That sounds like you're that sounds like you're standing for
Speaker 2: the Greens again, Kyle. It's like how much is it
Speaker 2: going to cost?
Speaker 4: Up how much it will cost to how much value
Speaker 4: you get from it?
Speaker 2: Like I don't think anyone is a thing would object
Speaker 2: to that, but we probably need another five or ten
Speaker 2: million people in New Zealand and then imagine what the
Speaker 2: property prices will be. Then oh my goodness, Ah, look
Speaker 2: tell you what. We're going to take a moment and
Speaker 2: we're going to come back because the big news of
Speaker 2: which we a lot of us who follow if one,
Speaker 2: have been waiting for. Liam Lawson has been confirmed as
Speaker 2: joining Red Bull. It's a huge deal for him, not
Speaker 2: just as a career, but I think probably the income
Speaker 2: is slightly above the minimum wage. We'll be back in
Speaker 2: just a moment, news talks. He b it's twenty three
Speaker 2: minutes to four, dreaming Harve Christmas, just like the one
Speaker 2: I used.
Speaker 1: To know.
Speaker 2: Where the tree tim listen and welcome back. Yes that's me, Look, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's me. My producer's contracts is used to play me once.
Speaker 4: I think I let that run a bit longer.
Speaker 5: I know, I let the.
Speaker 2: Pokes go way longer. That's the one that's the play
Speaker 2: that gets in the States about three million listens a year.
Speaker 2: I've got onto someone's playlist.
Speaker 5: Royalty rty, Yeah I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, f'st one here enough to play for the
Speaker 2: Christmas pay for the three and a half million plays
Speaker 2: does give you something, but nice one, not as much
Speaker 2: as you think.
Speaker 5: So right now you're getting paid.
Speaker 2: Ah No, probably I go into the mix with whatever
Speaker 2: the road. No, No, probably three cents if I play
Speaker 2: it about five hundred times.
Speaker 4: When you just have it running on a loop at
Speaker 4: home constantly.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think I need to get this. Yeah, I need
Speaker 2: to get some sort of hacking thing going around devices
Speaker 2: around the world. Now the big news for Liam Lawson
Speaker 2: and now I don't know where you guys are on
Speaker 2: the f one, but somebody has suggested to me a
Speaker 2: while ago to start watching Drive to Survive around the
Speaker 2: time that Nelliam Lawson was emerging, and I got into it,
Speaker 2: and I'm right into it because I love there's a
Speaker 2: few things I love about it. I love the fact
Speaker 2: that people at the top of their game with this
Speaker 2: push to for excellence all the time, can still front
Speaker 2: up to the cameras and give interesting, aerodyite interviews, sometimes
Speaker 2: quite combative. It's entertaining. The racing's amazing. In twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: all the fuel is going to be sustainable. I say
Speaker 2: that for Carle MacDonald, but I just and now Liam Lawson.
Speaker 2: I don't know if people realize how big a deal
Speaker 2: this is for someone to get into this position. So
Speaker 2: his income has probably gone from with his previous deal,
Speaker 2: from a couple hundred thousand, maybe hundred and FFT thousand
Speaker 2: a year probably to somewhere a few mill plus bonuses.
Speaker 2: We'll go to you, Luke. You into the F one.
Speaker 3: I love the one and Liam Lawson what a cool guy.
Speaker 3: I just love how he interviews. It's so confident. It's
Speaker 3: luck he's been there for one hundred years and now
Speaker 3: he's in the same steps. It's all those other great
Speaker 3: New Zealand motorsport racing like McLaren and Scott Dixon and
Speaker 3: so forth. But how cool is that also to be
Speaker 3: racing with the Maximstafan That.
Speaker 5: Is the coolest.
Speaker 2: Well Poison Chalice possibly possibly the number two guy, tough
Speaker 2: to have the top guy in the world as your
Speaker 2: teammate Kyle, have you been following it.
Speaker 4: I've never really been a huge fan, to be honest,
Speaker 4: for no other reason. That's never really hooked me, but
Speaker 4: a bit like you. I started watching Drive to Survive
Speaker 4: when season one came out and sort of got into it,
Speaker 4: and I sort of started watching the odd Live Race
Speaker 4: and I thought, gosh, that was a good marketing plan
Speaker 4: for Formula One wasn't a series out. But I agree
Speaker 4: with you. The thing I like about Liam as he
Speaker 4: seems to have just turned up and decided I'm not
Speaker 4: taking any rubbish from anybody. He's been aggressive and I
Speaker 4: really liked what he had to say about McLaren because,
Speaker 4: you know, it had never really occurred to me that
Speaker 4: McLaren is a is a you know, Bruce Claire New
Speaker 4: Zealand play in New Zealander. Yes, it's based in Great Britain.
Speaker 4: But he was saying they should be playing the New
Speaker 4: Zealand national ent. They're not the British national yea, because.
Speaker 2: Because who's in the Austrian franchise which is based in
Speaker 2: Silverstone or somewhere in England but they still play the
Speaker 2: Austrian anthem. I can't mean which it was? Was it?
Speaker 2: Now somebody else can tell me, text me.
Speaker 4: If you like Red Bulls Austrian, isn't it?
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, that was it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it. Actually, it's funny when you see
Speaker 2: him interviewed, it's hard to imagine that he's the guy
Speaker 2: that also flipped the finger at Sergio Perez I like,
Speaker 2: which still.
Speaker 4: Quite MA can't really back down at three hundred and
Speaker 4: twenty kilometers an hour, You've just got to go for it.
Speaker 2: Did you watch the one where that guy Roman Grosjeon
Speaker 2: crashed and he was in an inferno for two minutes
Speaker 2: and forty two seconds and it's climbed out and more
Speaker 2: or less well and his and his family. I've just
Speaker 2: watch that episode, and oh my goodness, it'd be a
Speaker 2: horrible sport to watch as a fam memoy. Just one crash,
Speaker 2: you'd just go I've got no control. But all the
Speaker 2: all the heads, the heads of each team, they're all interesting, erudite.
Speaker 2: I mean, they all speak about three or four languages.
Speaker 2: It makes me feel like a bit of a thicky,
Speaker 2: you know that one minute I see, you know, Toto
Speaker 2: Wolf speaking in German, then he's in English, and of
Speaker 2: course he is a German. Then he's in French and
Speaker 2: I sort of think, oh, you know.
Speaker 4: But it's it does maybe laugh though when they talk
Speaker 4: about sort of the business decision of Formula one, because
Speaker 4: you know they're talking about Perry's and this sort of
Speaker 4: the whole South America, South American market, Yeah, issues of
Speaker 4: getting rid of it. And I'm like, probably Liam Noawson bringing
Speaker 4: the New Zealand market with him isn't much of a.
Speaker 2: Point, which is a compliment to and and the story
Speaker 2: with his with his family and how they with the
Speaker 2: sacrifices they made, and how he acknowledges that as well.
Speaker 2: And I sort of think I really can't wait to
Speaker 2: see him take the seat and see how he goes.
Speaker 3: And Colin Giltrap he's tipped his head. He passed away
Speaker 3: this year and he tipped his hat the column.
Speaker 5: I love that to her. He hasn't forgotten how he
Speaker 5: got there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I look, I can't wait to see how
Speaker 2: he races against everyone else. I reckon I've got high
Speaker 2: hopes from I just am fascinated to see if he
Speaker 2: gets in position where he's next to Max for step
Speaker 2: and whether they say no, no, Liam, You've got to
Speaker 2: let Max go first. That's going to have that's going
Speaker 2: to happen at some stage. So anyway, we'll wait and see.
Speaker 2: But good luck to Liam Lawson. It is worth mentioning
Speaker 2: my producer is also a big fan of Is she
Speaker 2: a fan of if one or is she fan of
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson? But anyway, I think he's got a lot
Speaker 2: of admirers around the country. Because I said to Tyre,
Speaker 2: I said, look, would you leave you? Would you leave
Speaker 2: your partner for for Liam? And she said he's too young,
Speaker 2: and I said that sounds like that's the only obstacle. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we say that lightheartedly, and I'm just kind of winding
Speaker 2: her up a little bit because she's she's done such
Speaker 2: a great job on the show, so as a reward,
Speaker 2: I wind her up. Isn't that lovely of me?
Speaker 4: Lucky here.
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: Microchipping cats it does sound like, you know, the expression
Speaker 2: it's like herding cats. Microchipping cats sounds sort of in
Speaker 2: the same ballpark. And it's all I don't know what
Speaker 2: it's to do to make sure that, what is it
Speaker 2: to do? Make sure we don't put down sort of
Speaker 2: wild and domestic cats and all that, But shouldn't we
Speaker 2: be also just usuring them as well.
Speaker 5: Carl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I'm a cat. In fact, we've got two
Speaker 4: cats and they're both microchip are they They came microchip
Speaker 4: actually because we was sort of part of the deal
Speaker 4: when we adopted them. But it just makes good sense
Speaker 4: because you know, I've I've had cats my whole life,
Speaker 4: and the thing you put the collars on them in
Speaker 4: the tree or even get hooked up on things. So
Speaker 4: I mean it's a pretty good idea. It means that
Speaker 4: we can track domestic cats and it's actually a lot
Speaker 4: of the feral cats that cause a lot of the
Speaker 4: wildlife problems. So it means that we can figure out
Speaker 4: you make sure we're not sort of taking the wrong You're.
Speaker 2: Not one of those owners. Is like, my cat never
Speaker 2: has a crack of a bird. It just sits there
Speaker 2: cuddled up in his basket, sort of purring away.
Speaker 4: No, the trick is to keep him, keep him well fed.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but I did hear that microchipping costs close
Speaker 2: to fifty bucks, whereas desexing, I don't know, how can
Speaker 2: you desect something for fifteen bucks. I mean, a latte
Speaker 2: costs your sex a two and a half lartes. Well,
Speaker 2: desex you cat.
Speaker 3: I'm into marketsipping cats and it's not you know, there's
Speaker 3: not a lot of things that I do agree with
Speaker 3: with the Green Party, but I don't. I do want
Speaker 3: the cat's market trip. The feral cats I hunt, I
Speaker 3: get fifty bucks a cat.
Speaker 5: Oh do you shoot cats?
Speaker 3: I don't shoot them on if they the farmer will
Speaker 3: give me fifty bucks. I really wore a bottle of vodka.
Speaker 2: Really, they're just going bye bye a pussy cat.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, they get into our wildlife and I don't want
Speaker 5: to native bird being killed by woman a feral cat.
Speaker 2: It is such an emotive topic. But it is the sound,
Speaker 2: the change of the sounds in the forest, you know,
Speaker 2: as a result of just birds not being weird. They
Speaker 2: should have been even and domestic, you know, in our
Speaker 2: own tree lined suburbs.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 4: I think it's a wonderfully New Zealand issue too, and
Speaker 4: certainely Gareth Morgan proved single handedly that you have to
Speaker 4: be very careful about policies around in this country, very careful.
Speaker 2: Are you okay with the shooting of wildcats.
Speaker 4: If they're fair? Oh yeah, sure, I mean they are
Speaker 4: actually technically a pest.
Speaker 5: It's part of it.
Speaker 4: It's kind of a bit conflicting really being a cat
Speaker 4: on sort of. They do catch the old bird in
Speaker 4: the odd bit of wildlife. That's why I say, you
Speaker 4: just got to keep them well fed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, actually, why do you think it
Speaker 2: is that dog owners have always had to have them
Speaker 2: chipped and pay for their registration and the INCENTI.
Speaker 4: Dangerous, right two people?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I think dog owners we I mean I've
Speaker 3: got a dog and I chip it just for its
Speaker 3: own safety, as if it gets out of the gate.
Speaker 5: You know, I want to know where my dog is.
Speaker 3: That's the main thing I want to chip my dog for.
Speaker 3: Like recently, I pulled up in Sat Mary's Bay. There's
Speaker 3: a group of people around the cat and the cat died.
Speaker 3: So I picked it up, put on at the back
Speaker 3: of the took it the vet Mike. Could they scanned
Speaker 3: it a chip, had a chip. The owner was so
Speaker 3: pleased and the cat came back.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, that isn't a hard That's probably not
Speaker 2: going to be an advertising campaign that's gonna work. In
Speaker 2: case your pet Moggie gets run over by a bus,
Speaker 2: then let's at least know who the carcass belongs to.
Speaker 4: Microchips are great What I really want to do is
Speaker 4: fit a camera to my cat. I want to know
Speaker 4: what they get up to.
Speaker 3: They traveled so far. I know they travel a lot.
Speaker 3: It's not the neighborhood at night. They travel like up
Speaker 3: to four and a half k's.
Speaker 2: You know the funny thing about cats? For me, I'm
Speaker 2: not really a cat person, but where our neighbors have
Speaker 2: got a cat and it's not very sociable, but I
Speaker 2: kind of like it because it's a cute cat. It's
Speaker 2: little white socks. But isn't it funny that you can
Speaker 2: look at pretty much exactly the same species and it's
Speaker 2: wild and it's like, shoot that thing.
Speaker 4: Well, they're an apex predator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I actually didn't funny enough. Just before we
Speaker 2: go to the break, I was watching a wild It's
Speaker 2: some wildlife thing where there's a lion in some sort
Speaker 2: of park and the lion actually thinks it's obviously been
Speaker 2: domesticated so much. Walk running along to this bus load
Speaker 2: of tourists. It's an open bus, and it jumps on
Speaker 2: top of them all and it starts rubbing itself against
Speaker 2: them like it's some sort of moggie. I was thinking,
Speaker 2: I must say, if everyone went on that trip, and
Speaker 2: I took my daughters with me. I think that we're
Speaker 2: not going.
Speaker 4: Too careful not to soil the bus at that moment.
Speaker 2: But yeah, exactly, Yeah, it does sound like it's sort
Speaker 2: of a tour that's bounty end in tears at some stage. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we're going to be back in just a moment to
Speaker 2: wrap things up and also talk about Auctan's new pool.
Speaker 2: Wayne Brown is loving it. News Talk s head b.
Speaker 2: It's nine minutes to four. Yes, News Talk said be
Speaker 2: the weekend collective panel. Our last topic with my guests
Speaker 2: Luke Dallo and Kyle MacDonald the pool. So Wayne Brown
Speaker 2: is he's loving the new pool that they've the saltwater pool.
Speaker 2: I think, isn't it? And I saw a.
Speaker 5: Photo of him.
Speaker 2: He's in pretty good shape, Wayne, Wayne. Actually, for a
Speaker 2: slightly older gent, I almost would be tempted to go
Speaker 2: and have a swim in that pool. Although Kyle, you're
Speaker 2: a bit flash because you've just been bragging to us
Speaker 2: about the pool you've got in your backyard. So we'll
Speaker 2: go to We've got to Luke first.
Speaker 3: I think the pool is a fantastic idea. We shared
Speaker 3: more of them around there, more accessible pools. It's got
Speaker 3: a lifeguard. They're fantastic. But I'm just worried about the
Speaker 3: little bit of about the pollution, which I don't really
Speaker 3: care personally but some one might. Is it filters coming
Speaker 3: through that sea wall and a big thing for me.
Speaker 3: You got to get that when you're crossing sort and
Speaker 3: so more people can jump in the pool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carl, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4: One of the things I was really struck by when
Speaker 4: we were in Sydney and then stead of up and
Speaker 4: down the south New South Wales coast and the school
Speaker 4: holidays this year is like literally every beach it seems
Speaker 4: like it's got a saltwater pool, which is great for
Speaker 4: the little ones. And you know, we've unfortunately one of
Speaker 4: the things that happens every summer as we end up
Speaker 4: with lots of headlines about drownings. By far and away,
Speaker 4: the best way is to get your kids and it's
Speaker 4: safely supervised in water from a young age. And if
Speaker 4: this helps with that, you know, for people in the
Speaker 4: city or go for a quick dip week going.
Speaker 2: And here's here's the amazing thing that I think it's
Speaker 2: worth giving a shout out to. Even though Eki Panouku,
Speaker 2: which is the council organization. It's recently been dis established.
Speaker 2: They're shifting its functions to another body or something. This
Speaker 2: was Wellington, that pool would have cost about twenty million bucks.
Speaker 2: Auckland built that pool five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: Brilliant, isn't that? Actually?
Speaker 2: When I saw that finger, I thought, has somebody made
Speaker 2: because we're so used to these big numbers being banded about.
Speaker 2: So hats off to Ikipinuku and the Auckland Council and
Speaker 2: Wayne Brown for a great public facility that we can
Speaker 2: all use.
Speaker 4: To be fair, if it was in Mornington you put
Speaker 4: a fairrier drive into an accident.
Speaker 5: Oh and be bloody fair fairy.
Speaker 2: Oh if we had another, if we had some more time,
Speaker 2: if I could turn back time anyway, Hey guys, are
Speaker 2: you hitting away having You're having a bit of break,
Speaker 2: aren't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, we done at the lovely Wyhee Beach for Christmas
Speaker 4: Day and a couple of days either side, so really
Speaker 4: looking forward to.
Speaker 5: That and Luke, I'll be up at Russell catching turner.
Speaker 5: So there you go.
Speaker 2: Is that your favorite fish?
Speaker 5: By the way, it's my favorite fishy. I love tuna
Speaker 5: on hardbooker.
Speaker 2: Great to have you guys, and thanks so much and
Speaker 2: thanks for your contributions to the Christmas and we'll look
Speaker 2: forward to catch up with you next year. Merry Christmas
Speaker 2: and bar humbug just covering my basis. We'll be back shortly.
Speaker 2: The wonderof radio show d McKnight is with us talking
Speaker 2: about what's up next year. Given the hypho back soon.
Speaker 5: To see you and me under the tree a cozy
Speaker 5: little Christmas.
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