1 00:00:06,855 --> 00:00:10,055 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter 2 00:00:10,135 --> 00:00:12,215 Speaker 1: Wolfcamp from News Talks at Bay. 3 00:00:12,815 --> 00:00:18,415 Speaker 2: House a whole, even when it starks, even when the 4 00:00:18,495 --> 00:00:23,815 Speaker 2: grass is overgrown in the yard, even when the dog 5 00:00:24,055 --> 00:00:28,255 Speaker 2: is too old to bar, and when you're sitting at 6 00:00:28,295 --> 00:00:35,535 Speaker 2: the table trying to stop scissor home, even when we 7 00:00:35,975 --> 00:00:52,735 Speaker 2: are bad, even when you're there alone, house is a hole, 8 00:00:53,375 --> 00:00:58,055 Speaker 2: even when those ghost even when you got around from 9 00:00:58,095 --> 00:01:03,175 Speaker 2: the ones you love your most, stream, those broken plaints, 10 00:01:03,255 --> 00:01:13,255 Speaker 2: feeling from the wood locals vestball when they're gone leaving them, 11 00:01:13,615 --> 00:01:19,055 Speaker 2: even when wilbra Ben, even when you're in there alone. 12 00:01:28,055 --> 00:01:30,655 Speaker 3: Well, a very very good morning to you. Welcome along 13 00:01:30,695 --> 00:01:34,055 Speaker 3: to the Resident Builder on Sunday here at News Talk CB. 14 00:01:34,095 --> 00:01:36,135 Speaker 3: My name's people of Camp for the Resident Builder. And 15 00:01:36,255 --> 00:01:39,535 Speaker 3: this is well the last It's not the last opportunity 16 00:01:39,615 --> 00:01:41,295 Speaker 3: of the year. I know lots of hosts are saying 17 00:01:41,335 --> 00:01:43,815 Speaker 3: at the moment as they look forward to Christmas in 18 00:01:43,895 --> 00:01:47,175 Speaker 3: just a couple of days time and the extended summer break. 19 00:01:47,215 --> 00:01:50,135 Speaker 3: And I'm looking forward to Christmas as well. But in 20 00:01:50,175 --> 00:01:53,015 Speaker 3: between Christmas and New Year, so for one more show 21 00:01:53,015 --> 00:01:55,615 Speaker 3: and December we will be back. But today is the 22 00:01:55,695 --> 00:02:00,455 Speaker 3: last show. Before Christmas Day, and it's an opportunity. I 23 00:02:01,255 --> 00:02:04,975 Speaker 3: do get that sense with people looking at little projects 24 00:02:05,015 --> 00:02:09,015 Speaker 3: around the house, and but some peace is that you know, 25 00:02:09,175 --> 00:02:12,335 Speaker 3: now the pressure is on. Basically, if you're going to 26 00:02:12,655 --> 00:02:15,895 Speaker 3: line up a project for the Christmas break, you need 27 00:02:15,935 --> 00:02:17,775 Speaker 3: to be thinking about it now. You need to have 28 00:02:17,935 --> 00:02:22,735 Speaker 3: materials ordered before suppliers shut down. If you're going to 29 00:02:22,775 --> 00:02:26,775 Speaker 3: be using trades people during the Christmas break, look, chances 30 00:02:26,855 --> 00:02:28,935 Speaker 3: a you'll probably find a few. I've got this little 31 00:02:28,975 --> 00:02:32,455 Speaker 3: metric for determining whether or not for trades people it's 32 00:02:32,495 --> 00:02:36,015 Speaker 3: been a good year, and that's all about how quickly 33 00:02:36,095 --> 00:02:41,895 Speaker 3: trades people returned back to work in the new year. So, 34 00:02:42,295 --> 00:02:44,335 Speaker 3: you know, if it's been a good year, then good 35 00:02:44,415 --> 00:02:46,975 Speaker 3: luck getting a plumber or a sparky or a chippy 36 00:02:47,015 --> 00:02:49,935 Speaker 3: to come around and start work on your project until 37 00:02:50,455 --> 00:02:53,815 Speaker 3: the very end of January. Pretty much. If it hasn't 38 00:02:53,815 --> 00:02:56,255 Speaker 3: been a great year, then typically as soon as the 39 00:02:56,255 --> 00:02:59,055 Speaker 3: stats are over, they're backswing and a hammer. So the 40 00:02:59,135 --> 00:03:00,735 Speaker 3: number of people I know who are back to work 41 00:03:00,775 --> 00:03:04,095 Speaker 3: on the sixth of January is considerably higher this year 42 00:03:04,815 --> 00:03:07,495 Speaker 3: than those perhaps who would be looking at you know, 43 00:03:07,535 --> 00:03:10,735 Speaker 3: the thirteenth and beyond as a return to work. That's 44 00:03:10,975 --> 00:03:14,815 Speaker 3: a pretty straightforward metric that has served me well over 45 00:03:14,855 --> 00:03:17,375 Speaker 3: the last couple of years. And even an article that 46 00:03:17,415 --> 00:03:19,335 Speaker 3: I was reading. You know, normally we talk about in 47 00:03:19,375 --> 00:03:24,055 Speaker 3: the trades the Christmas rush, right, and people wanting to 48 00:03:24,255 --> 00:03:27,575 Speaker 3: get projects finished, get kitchens installed, get the bathroom finished, 49 00:03:27,615 --> 00:03:29,215 Speaker 3: get the deck finished, and that sort of thing. A 50 00:03:29,255 --> 00:03:33,335 Speaker 3: lot of pressure on trades people to get these jobs finished. 51 00:03:33,335 --> 00:03:37,215 Speaker 3: This year, it's been kind of a fairly casual stroll 52 00:03:37,535 --> 00:03:41,855 Speaker 3: to Christmas. The demand's not there, the work is harder 53 00:03:41,895 --> 00:03:45,775 Speaker 3: to find, it's more competitive, and the Christmas rush has 54 00:03:45,855 --> 00:03:48,615 Speaker 3: not really been that much of a rush for most 55 00:03:48,735 --> 00:03:52,495 Speaker 3: people anyway. Lots of good trades people still busy, but 56 00:03:52,655 --> 00:03:54,615 Speaker 3: lots of people scratching around, a lot of people still 57 00:03:54,655 --> 00:03:58,095 Speaker 3: a bit uncertain about what twenty twenty five has in 58 00:03:58,135 --> 00:04:00,735 Speaker 3: store for their businesses as well. But if you've got 59 00:04:00,735 --> 00:04:04,295 Speaker 3: a project that you intend to do, then we can 60 00:04:04,335 --> 00:04:07,175 Speaker 3: talk about that. So it might be, you know, of 61 00:04:07,215 --> 00:04:09,655 Speaker 3: a reasonable scale, it might be something that is just 62 00:04:09,815 --> 00:04:12,575 Speaker 3: a little bit more compact, or it might be a 63 00:04:12,695 --> 00:04:15,215 Speaker 3: job that I did yesterday. And then we had a 64 00:04:15,255 --> 00:04:17,655 Speaker 3: bit of a catch up with friends in some of 65 00:04:17,735 --> 00:04:20,895 Speaker 3: their friends yesterday and we were chatting and I said, 66 00:04:21,175 --> 00:04:23,855 Speaker 3: I think my new word for the day, for the month, 67 00:04:23,935 --> 00:04:29,135 Speaker 3: for the year pretty much is puttering, and puttering is 68 00:04:29,695 --> 00:04:31,775 Speaker 3: is defined and I don't know somewhere that I saw 69 00:04:31,815 --> 00:04:40,255 Speaker 3: online the active of undertaking a task, so's it has form, 70 00:04:40,295 --> 00:04:43,695 Speaker 3: it has process, it has an outcome. Right, you're doing 71 00:04:43,695 --> 00:04:46,175 Speaker 3: a task that's going to result in a change. You're 72 00:04:46,175 --> 00:04:49,015 Speaker 3: going to work on something, but it's of such a 73 00:04:49,055 --> 00:04:54,415 Speaker 3: significance that nobody will notice. So puttering. It was kind 74 00:04:54,455 --> 00:04:57,815 Speaker 3: of my word of the day yesterday. It might even 75 00:04:57,855 --> 00:05:00,015 Speaker 3: be my word of the year. So maybe your intention 76 00:05:00,215 --> 00:05:03,015 Speaker 3: over the summer break is to do a little puttering, 77 00:05:03,535 --> 00:05:05,495 Speaker 3: to fix a few things around the house, to make 78 00:05:05,535 --> 00:05:09,335 Speaker 3: a few modest changes to how things work. Maybe it's 79 00:05:09,375 --> 00:05:11,735 Speaker 3: the squeaky door and I noticed that on the door 80 00:05:11,775 --> 00:05:15,575 Speaker 3: this morning as I tried to gently close it before 81 00:05:15,655 --> 00:05:18,935 Speaker 3: heeing me out quite early this morning. Or maybe it's 82 00:05:18,975 --> 00:05:23,415 Speaker 3: another little maintenance task that will fix something, adjust something, 83 00:05:23,655 --> 00:05:26,015 Speaker 3: get rid of a squeak, get rid of something binding, 84 00:05:27,015 --> 00:05:30,255 Speaker 3: do a small task that maybe most people won't notice, 85 00:05:30,255 --> 00:05:33,535 Speaker 3: but you will. And that, my friends, is puttering, which 86 00:05:33,535 --> 00:05:37,375 Speaker 3: I think is just a tremendous tremendous word to keep 87 00:05:37,375 --> 00:05:40,055 Speaker 3: in mind over the summer months. Putter along through the 88 00:05:40,055 --> 00:05:45,615 Speaker 3: summer months, achieving small tasks and we successes, but no 89 00:05:45,655 --> 00:05:47,535 Speaker 3: one else will notice. But you'll be busy all day 90 00:05:47,775 --> 00:05:49,535 Speaker 3: if you've got a workshop. I think you really need 91 00:05:49,575 --> 00:05:52,575 Speaker 3: to have a workshop in order to do puttering successfully. 92 00:05:53,815 --> 00:05:56,375 Speaker 3: Or that's what I found. I had daylight that the 93 00:05:56,415 --> 00:05:57,775 Speaker 3: other day where I had sort of like a couple 94 00:05:57,815 --> 00:05:59,975 Speaker 3: of hours spare and I went in and just went 95 00:06:00,375 --> 00:06:05,375 Speaker 3: and fixed a certain number of things, you know, repair 96 00:06:05,455 --> 00:06:09,495 Speaker 3: that straight that, clean that up, and I'm like, that 97 00:06:10,015 --> 00:06:12,975 Speaker 3: feels quite good. If you're doing something more significant though, 98 00:06:13,455 --> 00:06:15,895 Speaker 3: that you'd like to talk about chat about, then the 99 00:06:15,935 --> 00:06:18,215 Speaker 3: lines are open. The number is eight hundred and eighty 100 00:06:18,255 --> 00:06:21,815 Speaker 3: ten eighty. The text is nine two nine two, which 101 00:06:21,855 --> 00:06:24,415 Speaker 3: is ZEDBZB from your mobile phone. I'll get the email 102 00:06:24,535 --> 00:06:26,495 Speaker 3: sorted out and if you'd like to email me, it's 103 00:06:26,535 --> 00:06:30,215 Speaker 3: Pete at newstalksb dot co dot NZ. So Pete at 104 00:06:30,255 --> 00:06:34,495 Speaker 3: newstalksb dot co dot ENZ. Can I just say a 105 00:06:34,615 --> 00:06:39,175 Speaker 3: small hallelujah as well. I've only just noticed this. I 106 00:06:39,215 --> 00:06:40,975 Speaker 3: went to glance at the clock to see what time 107 00:06:41,015 --> 00:06:44,735 Speaker 3: it is and something. Thank you ed is all I 108 00:06:44,735 --> 00:06:50,015 Speaker 3: can say, thank you, Ed. For the ten years that 109 00:06:50,055 --> 00:06:52,615 Speaker 3: I've been in the studio, we have had in this 110 00:06:52,655 --> 00:06:57,015 Speaker 3: particular studio an old analog clock that hangs on the 111 00:06:57,055 --> 00:07:01,775 Speaker 3: wall that is terribly unreliable because it never quite lines 112 00:07:01,855 --> 00:07:05,535 Speaker 3: up to the digital clocks obviously that run the studio. 113 00:07:06,455 --> 00:07:08,895 Speaker 3: And I just glanced up now expecting to see this 114 00:07:09,015 --> 00:07:14,935 Speaker 3: old analog clocking and almost here at ticking and God 115 00:07:14,975 --> 00:07:17,615 Speaker 3: bless them, but there is a flash. New screen has 116 00:07:17,655 --> 00:07:22,175 Speaker 3: been installed with a digital clock, which has been in 117 00:07:22,215 --> 00:07:25,375 Speaker 3: the other studio for ten years. And I've said on 118 00:07:25,415 --> 00:07:28,135 Speaker 3: a number of occasions in my grumpy moments, Ed, can 119 00:07:28,175 --> 00:07:30,815 Speaker 3: we have one of those in this studio as well? 120 00:07:30,855 --> 00:07:36,175 Speaker 3: And here it is the best Christmas present ever. Seriously, 121 00:07:36,255 --> 00:07:38,535 Speaker 3: that's awesome. Sorry. I know if you're listening to this 122 00:07:38,575 --> 00:07:40,615 Speaker 3: you're going, what the hell is he ranting on about? 123 00:07:40,655 --> 00:07:45,215 Speaker 3: But it is. It is transformational. The progress now that's 124 00:07:45,255 --> 00:07:48,895 Speaker 3: more than puttering. Actually a job like that, that's not puttering, 125 00:07:48,935 --> 00:07:52,135 Speaker 3: that's progress. That's awesome. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 126 00:07:52,175 --> 00:07:54,655 Speaker 3: I'm very happy this morning. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 127 00:07:54,695 --> 00:07:56,735 Speaker 3: If you've got a building question, if you've got a 128 00:07:56,775 --> 00:07:59,375 Speaker 3: project on. If you've got if you're struggling with the 129 00:07:59,455 --> 00:08:03,815 Speaker 3: legislation or the compliance side of things, gives a call 130 00:08:04,095 --> 00:08:06,615 Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty, because I can tell you 131 00:08:06,655 --> 00:08:10,735 Speaker 3: quite precisely it is exactly six fourteen twenty nine back 132 00:08:10,775 --> 00:08:13,455 Speaker 3: in a moment your newstalks, the'd be and the lines 133 00:08:13,495 --> 00:08:15,415 Speaker 3: are open. The number to call eight hundred and eighty 134 00:08:15,535 --> 00:08:19,495 Speaker 3: ten eighty at around seven twenty five this morning, Jay, 135 00:08:19,615 --> 00:08:23,215 Speaker 3: our painting expert from Razine, will be with us as well. 136 00:08:23,295 --> 00:08:27,735 Speaker 3: So last opportunity obviously before the break for you to 137 00:08:27,895 --> 00:08:32,935 Speaker 3: ask your very specific painting questions of Jay from Razine. 138 00:08:33,255 --> 00:08:37,055 Speaker 3: So if you've got you know, again, I think typically 139 00:08:37,095 --> 00:08:42,175 Speaker 3: summertime kind of paint all year round, but summertime lends 140 00:08:42,215 --> 00:08:44,975 Speaker 3: itself to it. Then we end up with the sort 141 00:08:44,975 --> 00:08:47,895 Speaker 3: of the opposite problem that we get during the winter, 142 00:08:47,935 --> 00:08:50,175 Speaker 3: which is, gosh, I can paint from you know, maybe 143 00:08:50,175 --> 00:08:52,055 Speaker 3: ten in the morning till two in the afternoon, then 144 00:08:52,095 --> 00:08:54,135 Speaker 3: I've got to knock off to allow it to dry. 145 00:08:54,215 --> 00:08:57,095 Speaker 3: To challenges Now, if you're trying to do some painting 146 00:08:57,135 --> 00:09:01,015 Speaker 3: over the summer and its exterior is staying out of 147 00:09:01,295 --> 00:09:05,295 Speaker 3: the sun, because ideally shouldn't be painting in direct sunlight. 148 00:09:05,335 --> 00:09:07,575 Speaker 3: But if you've got a question around getting some jobs 149 00:09:07,775 --> 00:09:12,495 Speaker 3: painted over the summer break, then Jay, our painting expert, 150 00:09:12,535 --> 00:09:15,655 Speaker 3: will be with us for your text questions at around 151 00:09:16,375 --> 00:09:19,455 Speaker 3: seven twenty five this morning, seven thirty this morning, so 152 00:09:19,495 --> 00:09:21,815 Speaker 3: in about just over an hour's time right now. Though 153 00:09:21,855 --> 00:09:24,855 Speaker 3: it's your opportunity, it is a little bit quiet this 154 00:09:24,935 --> 00:09:28,095 Speaker 3: Sunday morning, so inevitably we get busy later on in 155 00:09:28,095 --> 00:09:30,655 Speaker 3: the show. If you've got a question, oh, eight hundred 156 00:09:30,655 --> 00:09:33,015 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty, now is the perfect time to call. 157 00:09:34,175 --> 00:09:39,175 Speaker 3: I mentioned puttering for your information, says the Texter. Puttering 158 00:09:39,255 --> 00:09:42,855 Speaker 3: is just the worst pottering, having been morphed through misspelling. 159 00:09:42,895 --> 00:09:46,135 Speaker 3: The original word is pottering, which we all know. Well, 160 00:09:46,295 --> 00:09:49,975 Speaker 3: I probably agree with you in the sense that maybe 161 00:09:49,975 --> 00:09:52,615 Speaker 3: it's a word that has changed that. This was part 162 00:09:52,615 --> 00:09:55,615 Speaker 3: of the discussion yesterday over a few drinks and some 163 00:09:55,775 --> 00:09:58,655 Speaker 3: very delicious sliders put on by friends of ours yesterday 164 00:09:59,775 --> 00:10:02,295 Speaker 3: around well, how is it different from pottering? I think 165 00:10:02,335 --> 00:10:04,335 Speaker 3: pottering is one of those things that you kind of 166 00:10:04,415 --> 00:10:06,775 Speaker 3: just mooch along, but there's no real outcome to it, 167 00:10:08,175 --> 00:10:13,735 Speaker 3: whereas puttering has in the distinction that I saw anyway, 168 00:10:14,095 --> 00:10:17,135 Speaker 3: is that you've achieved a task. It might be relatively 169 00:10:17,175 --> 00:10:19,895 Speaker 3: minor and it's of a nature that no one else 170 00:10:19,935 --> 00:10:22,735 Speaker 3: will notice it, but you do get something done. And 171 00:10:22,775 --> 00:10:27,055 Speaker 3: I'm like, I get that. I like puttering. I'm happy 172 00:10:27,055 --> 00:10:29,575 Speaker 3: with puttering. I don't think it's a misspelling. I think 173 00:10:29,575 --> 00:10:31,015 Speaker 3: it's a new word and it's a great word. Oh, 174 00:10:31,055 --> 00:10:32,735 Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to 175 00:10:32,735 --> 00:10:35,255 Speaker 3: call quick text, Hey, we've got some soot on the 176 00:10:36,135 --> 00:10:39,095 Speaker 3: We have some soot on the curling around our chimney. 177 00:10:39,095 --> 00:10:42,295 Speaker 3: What's the best way to get rid of it? So, yes, 178 00:10:42,295 --> 00:10:44,535 Speaker 3: if you've got some soot on the ceiling, then any 179 00:10:44,535 --> 00:10:48,735 Speaker 3: housewash prep or any painting prep product. Razine make a 180 00:10:48,815 --> 00:10:51,375 Speaker 3: really good one that I've used successfully this year getting 181 00:10:51,895 --> 00:10:55,815 Speaker 3: mold and mildew off a bathroom ceiling, so to treat that, 182 00:10:56,535 --> 00:11:00,695 Speaker 3: and it's a it's a good preparation before painting indoors anyway. 183 00:11:01,655 --> 00:11:04,375 Speaker 3: You know, regardless of how well you look after your house, 184 00:11:04,415 --> 00:11:09,255 Speaker 3: there will be dirt basically that collects on the wall. 185 00:11:09,295 --> 00:11:10,895 Speaker 3: So before you do the painting, you want to be 186 00:11:10,935 --> 00:11:12,935 Speaker 3: able to strip that off. So I think have a 187 00:11:12,975 --> 00:11:19,375 Speaker 3: go with the house of the paint prep that you 188 00:11:19,415 --> 00:11:22,255 Speaker 3: can get from razine, so mix that up. Don't wear 189 00:11:22,295 --> 00:11:24,215 Speaker 3: a good shirt when you're using it. If you like 190 00:11:24,295 --> 00:11:26,775 Speaker 3: me and you're a bit sloppy with the application. It 191 00:11:26,815 --> 00:11:28,535 Speaker 3: took the color straight out of the old shirt that 192 00:11:28,575 --> 00:11:31,175 Speaker 3: I was wearing, but it did do an excellent job 193 00:11:31,215 --> 00:11:35,175 Speaker 3: of getting rid of the mold and mildew on the ceiling. 194 00:11:35,215 --> 00:11:37,175 Speaker 3: I'm sure it'll take care of the soot as well. 195 00:11:37,375 --> 00:11:40,015 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 196 00:11:40,015 --> 00:11:42,495 Speaker 3: to call and mark a very good morning to you. 197 00:11:42,895 --> 00:11:43,935 Speaker 3: How are you doing this morning? 198 00:11:44,775 --> 00:11:45,255 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to. 199 00:11:45,255 --> 00:11:47,895 Speaker 5: Add good thanks thanks backing the call. 200 00:11:47,975 --> 00:11:49,975 Speaker 4: I've just got a couple of quick questions. 201 00:11:50,335 --> 00:11:53,975 Speaker 5: I've just going to Dick about a couple of months ago, 202 00:11:54,935 --> 00:11:57,215 Speaker 5: and we seem to have a bit of cupping in it, 203 00:11:57,255 --> 00:12:00,455 Speaker 5: and I'm just not sure ye solution for that. So 204 00:12:01,015 --> 00:12:03,535 Speaker 5: it's less than one. I happy to the ground, built 205 00:12:03,575 --> 00:12:06,855 Speaker 5: to code, so I've done it, and then forty by 206 00:12:07,175 --> 00:12:11,775 Speaker 5: ninety Mili couilla yep, and some of the boards seem 207 00:12:11,775 --> 00:12:13,775 Speaker 5: to be cupping of it, and they've got our used 208 00:12:13,855 --> 00:12:18,895 Speaker 5: twelve gauge back screws too board the joist, but I'm 209 00:12:18,935 --> 00:12:22,175 Speaker 5: just not sure there's any solutions to try and reduce it, 210 00:12:22,255 --> 00:12:27,015 Speaker 5: minimize it. We haven't got around to the ailing it 211 00:12:27,095 --> 00:12:28,975 Speaker 5: yet that I don't know if it's going to help 212 00:12:29,055 --> 00:12:29,175 Speaker 5: or not. 213 00:12:31,415 --> 00:12:34,055 Speaker 3: Funnily enough, it may well do, I mean typically like 214 00:12:34,135 --> 00:12:37,135 Speaker 3: if hardwards tend to perform a little bit differently to 215 00:12:37,335 --> 00:12:43,055 Speaker 3: soft woods. But there's depending on which way the board 216 00:12:43,135 --> 00:12:47,615 Speaker 3: is sawn, you will get cupping in the board, right, 217 00:12:47,695 --> 00:12:52,655 Speaker 3: so all timber is prone to doing it. Is it like, 218 00:12:52,775 --> 00:12:55,535 Speaker 3: is it significant to the point where the cupping is 219 00:12:55,535 --> 00:12:58,775 Speaker 3: such that the water sits in between it. 220 00:12:59,615 --> 00:13:00,255 Speaker 5: Coup of the boards? 221 00:13:00,255 --> 00:13:00,455 Speaker 6: It is? 222 00:13:00,575 --> 00:13:02,895 Speaker 5: So we're not too sure because it's not every board, 223 00:13:02,935 --> 00:13:07,415 Speaker 5: and it's more where the sun hits. We're not sure 224 00:13:07,415 --> 00:13:09,695 Speaker 5: if the only solution is to replace the odd board 225 00:13:09,695 --> 00:13:12,015 Speaker 5: that it's got it or not. But then there's that 226 00:13:12,135 --> 00:13:12,535 Speaker 5: game to. 227 00:13:14,415 --> 00:13:19,135 Speaker 3: You, yes, and are the boards it's the type of 228 00:13:19,215 --> 00:13:21,695 Speaker 3: quilla that you've used. Was it grip tread on one 229 00:13:21,735 --> 00:13:23,535 Speaker 3: side and smooth on the other or is it smooth 230 00:13:23,575 --> 00:13:27,015 Speaker 3: both faces? Okay, because I was going to say, you know, 231 00:13:27,055 --> 00:13:30,215 Speaker 3: you could undo the screws, flip it over and it 232 00:13:30,255 --> 00:13:33,295 Speaker 3: would cut the other way and maybe eventually settle down. 233 00:13:34,535 --> 00:13:37,055 Speaker 3: But I guess the so the cupping you're seeing is 234 00:13:37,095 --> 00:13:40,855 Speaker 3: that the outside edges of the board have risen and 235 00:13:40,935 --> 00:13:46,575 Speaker 3: it's now concave. Sorry, concave rather than convex. Yeah, yeah, 236 00:13:46,735 --> 00:13:50,455 Speaker 3: that's okay. 237 00:13:50,735 --> 00:13:52,415 Speaker 5: We were you sure if we should put end seal 238 00:13:52,495 --> 00:13:54,415 Speaker 5: on the on the bottom of the board, like we've 239 00:13:54,455 --> 00:13:56,175 Speaker 5: done that. We all caps out of the end seals 240 00:13:56,175 --> 00:13:59,295 Speaker 5: and stuff like that. But yeah, I'm just not too sure. 241 00:14:00,375 --> 00:14:04,535 Speaker 3: Look, timber is what timber is, right, So you will 242 00:14:04,575 --> 00:14:06,215 Speaker 3: get a little bit of cupping, and it'll be and 243 00:14:06,415 --> 00:14:08,335 Speaker 3: way that the board is sorn, and from which part 244 00:14:08,375 --> 00:14:11,095 Speaker 3: of the tree it is. It's probably how I would 245 00:14:11,135 --> 00:14:15,015 Speaker 3: say it. I think if it's really troubling, look, I think. 246 00:14:14,815 --> 00:14:16,735 Speaker 5: It's not troubling. I don't have a problem with it. 247 00:14:17,295 --> 00:14:20,895 Speaker 3: It's just yeah, I know, and that's what I'm saying. 248 00:14:20,935 --> 00:14:22,575 Speaker 3: You know, Like I've seen boards that are cupped and 249 00:14:22,935 --> 00:14:25,055 Speaker 3: let's say, if you put a ruler over the top, 250 00:14:25,415 --> 00:14:28,775 Speaker 3: it would be five millimeters from the ruler to the 251 00:14:29,255 --> 00:14:32,015 Speaker 3: bottom of the dip, let's say. Or in some cases 252 00:14:32,055 --> 00:14:34,215 Speaker 3: you'll get cupping that'll hold a little bit of water 253 00:14:34,335 --> 00:14:36,695 Speaker 3: and it'll be a millimeter or so. But it's still 254 00:14:36,975 --> 00:14:40,935 Speaker 3: more like that. It's more just the milk Yeah. Look, 255 00:14:40,975 --> 00:14:43,575 Speaker 3: if it's really troubling you, probably the only solution is 256 00:14:43,615 --> 00:14:47,415 Speaker 3: replaced the boards, saying that I would probably wait to 257 00:14:47,495 --> 00:14:50,535 Speaker 3: do it until after I had sealed the boards. So 258 00:14:50,775 --> 00:14:55,095 Speaker 3: was it always your intention to clean the deck after 259 00:14:55,135 --> 00:14:56,495 Speaker 3: a period of time and give it a coat. 260 00:14:58,295 --> 00:15:02,015 Speaker 5: Yes, So we thought we'd just leave it a little bit. Yeah, 261 00:15:02,055 --> 00:15:03,775 Speaker 5: and then we were going to look at doing some 262 00:15:04,775 --> 00:15:05,415 Speaker 5: oiling on it. 263 00:15:05,495 --> 00:15:06,215 Speaker 3: Yeah, good idea. 264 00:15:06,695 --> 00:15:08,495 Speaker 5: We're just wondering if we need to do that ahead 265 00:15:08,495 --> 00:15:14,735 Speaker 5: of time, like we were thinking, you're doing it. 266 00:15:12,015 --> 00:15:18,895 Speaker 3: May No, I think when when did the decking go down? Yeah, 267 00:15:18,935 --> 00:15:22,015 Speaker 3: it's probably long enough, I would say. And again this 268 00:15:22,175 --> 00:15:24,815 Speaker 3: is you know, in the conversations I've had with Jay 269 00:15:24,855 --> 00:15:32,135 Speaker 3: and with Bryce from Razine, use a deck wash proprietary 270 00:15:32,175 --> 00:15:34,415 Speaker 3: to prepare the timber, because what that does is it 271 00:15:34,415 --> 00:15:36,575 Speaker 3: gets rid of any sort of mild moss and mold 272 00:15:36,575 --> 00:15:38,695 Speaker 3: that might have started to grow on it, which is inevitable. 273 00:15:39,415 --> 00:15:42,055 Speaker 3: But also it opens the fibers up a little bit. 274 00:15:42,535 --> 00:15:45,175 Speaker 3: So when you use the product to clean the decking, 275 00:15:45,455 --> 00:15:48,615 Speaker 3: it opens the fibers up, and once it's dry, but 276 00:15:48,895 --> 00:15:52,335 Speaker 3: not too long afterwards, that's when you want to apply 277 00:15:52,535 --> 00:15:55,975 Speaker 3: your I would probably go for a penetrating oil stain 278 00:15:57,575 --> 00:16:00,255 Speaker 3: onto that and it will suck into the fibers because 279 00:16:00,255 --> 00:16:03,095 Speaker 3: they've been opened up as you've washed it. And that 280 00:16:03,215 --> 00:16:06,655 Speaker 3: may also, you know, help reintroduce some moisture into the 281 00:16:06,655 --> 00:16:09,015 Speaker 3: board and that might be enough just to relieve the 282 00:16:09,055 --> 00:16:11,735 Speaker 3: board as well, and it might settle down a little bit. 283 00:16:11,815 --> 00:16:14,975 Speaker 3: So and then if next summer it's still cupping and 284 00:16:15,015 --> 00:16:16,655 Speaker 3: it's still annoying, replace the board. 285 00:16:16,695 --> 00:16:18,935 Speaker 5: Then they could be again. 286 00:16:19,335 --> 00:16:22,815 Speaker 3: But I think, I know there's a lot of you 287 00:16:22,855 --> 00:16:25,495 Speaker 3: always have these discussions with after you've done a hardwood deck, 288 00:16:25,535 --> 00:16:28,175 Speaker 3: where you go, oh, should I put some coating on it? 289 00:16:28,255 --> 00:16:30,895 Speaker 3: I think that it's wise in New Zealand to put 290 00:16:30,895 --> 00:16:31,375 Speaker 3: a coating on. 291 00:16:32,255 --> 00:16:35,415 Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds quite hard. Yeah's part of it, quite noticeably. 292 00:16:35,935 --> 00:16:38,175 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was back at a place where we did 293 00:16:38,215 --> 00:16:41,335 Speaker 3: a it wasn't a Kuila deck, it was a Vitext 294 00:16:41,375 --> 00:16:46,695 Speaker 3: deck in roughly the end of twenty twenty, and I 295 00:16:46,735 --> 00:16:48,855 Speaker 3: was looking at it the other day thinking I know 296 00:16:49,015 --> 00:16:50,735 Speaker 3: that you know, there was there was a lot of 297 00:16:50,775 --> 00:16:52,935 Speaker 3: discussion around, oh do we just leave it natural, let 298 00:16:52,975 --> 00:16:54,735 Speaker 3: it whether off and dah dah da da da. But 299 00:16:54,815 --> 00:16:57,135 Speaker 3: I can also see the mold growth starting to grow 300 00:16:57,175 --> 00:16:59,015 Speaker 3: on it and that sort of thing, and I'm inclined 301 00:16:59,015 --> 00:17:01,055 Speaker 3: to go. I think now I'll give it a clean 302 00:17:01,255 --> 00:17:05,895 Speaker 3: and apply a coat of decking stain to it. 303 00:17:06,375 --> 00:17:10,575 Speaker 5: I had a second question, saw blade, So after doing it, 304 00:17:12,095 --> 00:17:14,815 Speaker 5: after the deck of the lots of pine and colla, 305 00:17:15,255 --> 00:17:18,415 Speaker 5: how do I clean them? So just behind the tungsten, Yeah, 306 00:17:19,655 --> 00:17:20,335 Speaker 5: how do I clean that? 307 00:17:22,495 --> 00:17:22,935 Speaker 3: Shimmers? 308 00:17:24,535 --> 00:17:25,655 Speaker 5: Because it's quite hard. 309 00:17:26,135 --> 00:17:29,055 Speaker 3: It's really Yeah, there's a lot of resin in the blade, 310 00:17:29,375 --> 00:17:30,855 Speaker 3: or there's a lot of resin in the timber and 311 00:17:30,895 --> 00:17:32,815 Speaker 3: it tends to adhere to the blade and sort of 312 00:17:32,855 --> 00:17:34,215 Speaker 3: gum up the blade. 313 00:17:34,735 --> 00:17:36,615 Speaker 5: Because I've got a brand new blade before doing the 314 00:17:37,895 --> 00:17:42,735 Speaker 5: night Yeah, yep, from Makida drops or yes, I'm just 315 00:17:43,455 --> 00:17:45,575 Speaker 5: I'm not sure how to how to clean off because 316 00:17:45,575 --> 00:17:47,655 Speaker 5: it's like it's plugged up quite quick. 317 00:17:47,975 --> 00:17:54,215 Speaker 3: Yes, I'd be inclined just to take it off user. 318 00:17:55,175 --> 00:17:57,935 Speaker 3: I've got in a drawer in the workshop a whole 319 00:17:57,935 --> 00:18:00,655 Speaker 3: bunch of little wire brushes, you know, like soft wire brushes. 320 00:18:00,935 --> 00:18:04,455 Speaker 3: But I'd probably just use some turps to be fair, 321 00:18:05,735 --> 00:18:08,375 Speaker 3: all right, I'll go yeah, yeah, And I mean look, 322 00:18:08,415 --> 00:18:10,615 Speaker 3: you know, chances are by now it probably needs a 323 00:18:10,655 --> 00:18:12,215 Speaker 3: sharpen in which case, if you take it in and 324 00:18:12,215 --> 00:18:14,735 Speaker 3: get it sharpened. And I'm still a big fan of 325 00:18:14,735 --> 00:18:17,655 Speaker 3: getting my blades sharpened rather than just biffing them and 326 00:18:17,655 --> 00:18:21,575 Speaker 3: buying another one and they'll probably tidy out of there. 327 00:18:21,615 --> 00:18:24,255 Speaker 3: But I think some turps and a little not sort 328 00:18:24,295 --> 00:18:27,535 Speaker 3: of super harsh wirebrush and just go through and just 329 00:18:28,215 --> 00:18:30,935 Speaker 3: that could be puttering. You see, that's puttering. You do 330 00:18:30,975 --> 00:18:34,015 Speaker 3: a little task that has an outcome and it might 331 00:18:34,055 --> 00:18:36,695 Speaker 3: take you a lovely half hour of just quiet time 332 00:18:36,855 --> 00:18:41,415 Speaker 3: just cleaning the blade. Cool mate, all the best, take care. 333 00:18:41,575 --> 00:18:43,895 Speaker 3: Thanks Mark. By way, then oh eight hundred and eighty 334 00:18:43,935 --> 00:18:46,615 Speaker 3: ten eighty, if you've got a question of a building nature, 335 00:18:46,735 --> 00:18:50,175 Speaker 3: by all means, give us a call. Funnily enough, last 336 00:18:50,175 --> 00:18:53,095 Speaker 3: week we were talking about sort of stocking stuff as 337 00:18:53,135 --> 00:18:55,695 Speaker 3: in a sense. Last week on the show, I happen 338 00:18:55,775 --> 00:18:58,815 Speaker 3: to mention the fact that I popped into Devenport Timber, 339 00:18:58,855 --> 00:19:01,455 Speaker 3: which is kind of like my local, and they had 340 00:19:01,495 --> 00:19:05,535 Speaker 3: some of the good rules sitting on the by the counter, right, 341 00:19:06,855 --> 00:19:09,735 Speaker 3: and it reminded me of the fact that I've got some. 342 00:19:09,895 --> 00:19:12,855 Speaker 3: In fact, I gave I gave one away the other day, 343 00:19:12,855 --> 00:19:14,615 Speaker 3: which means I need to go and replace it now. 344 00:19:15,415 --> 00:19:18,255 Speaker 3: But I I was looking at those mentioned the good Rule. 345 00:19:18,295 --> 00:19:21,015 Speaker 3: I quite like them because they're a New Zealand designed product. 346 00:19:21,135 --> 00:19:21,295 Speaker 7: Right. 347 00:19:21,335 --> 00:19:24,735 Speaker 3: So it's a little folding ruler that is unlike most 348 00:19:24,775 --> 00:19:27,975 Speaker 3: folding rulers, it's slightly wider, it's a certain thickness, the 349 00:19:28,015 --> 00:19:30,575 Speaker 3: measurements are set out in the way that's particularly useful 350 00:19:30,575 --> 00:19:34,655 Speaker 3: for Kiwi's building, et cetera, et cetera. So that's that's 351 00:19:34,655 --> 00:19:36,975 Speaker 3: an option. I've got some other ideas actually for stocking 352 00:19:37,095 --> 00:19:39,655 Speaker 3: stuffs as well. If you're still doing the Christmas shopping 353 00:19:39,975 --> 00:19:43,055 Speaker 3: a little bit like I am, then I've got a couple. 354 00:19:43,055 --> 00:19:46,175 Speaker 3: I've had some I've been doing some thinking about that. 355 00:19:46,455 --> 00:19:48,935 Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call 356 00:19:49,135 --> 00:19:50,775 Speaker 3: if you'd like to join us. We'd love to hear 357 00:19:50,775 --> 00:19:54,295 Speaker 3: from you. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number. Now 358 00:19:54,335 --> 00:19:56,015 Speaker 3: just for the break, Hey Pete, how about running a 359 00:19:56,055 --> 00:20:00,455 Speaker 3: sharp hand plane along with cup decking. Yes, but what 360 00:20:00,495 --> 00:20:03,815 Speaker 3: you end up doing sometimes is then taking the surface off, 361 00:20:03,815 --> 00:20:05,815 Speaker 3: which will help flatten the board, but you lose the 362 00:20:05,975 --> 00:20:10,095 Speaker 3: arras that's typically on the edge of the timber, and 363 00:20:10,135 --> 00:20:14,095 Speaker 3: then that will be a little bit obvious. And planning 364 00:20:14,135 --> 00:20:17,055 Speaker 3: hardwoods not that easy. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty 365 00:20:17,255 --> 00:20:18,975 Speaker 3: is the number to call back after the break the vain, 366 00:20:19,575 --> 00:20:21,695 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call 367 00:20:21,855 --> 00:20:24,095 Speaker 3: and a very very good morning to you, Anne. 368 00:20:25,335 --> 00:20:28,655 Speaker 8: Morning Pete, long time listener, and I've never called you before. 369 00:20:28,935 --> 00:20:30,055 Speaker 3: Welcome, thank you. 370 00:20:31,135 --> 00:20:33,055 Speaker 8: Over the years, my husband and I had a bit 371 00:20:33,055 --> 00:20:36,935 Speaker 8: of development in the three houses, and someone gave us 372 00:20:36,935 --> 00:20:40,335 Speaker 8: this hint. When you're at the stage before the light, 373 00:20:40,495 --> 00:20:45,895 Speaker 8: before the installation and the lining goes on, take photos, yes, 374 00:20:46,335 --> 00:20:49,655 Speaker 8: and then later we put them in an album yep. 375 00:20:50,215 --> 00:20:52,935 Speaker 8: And then when somebody wanted to know where a pipe 376 00:20:53,255 --> 00:20:55,895 Speaker 8: was or where the I was, you just get the 377 00:20:55,935 --> 00:21:00,695 Speaker 8: book out and it was really useful. 378 00:21:01,175 --> 00:21:05,135 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I guess, you know, going back a few years, 379 00:21:05,975 --> 00:21:08,455 Speaker 3: that a little bit of a process in terms of, 380 00:21:08,495 --> 00:21:10,175 Speaker 3: you know, if you had to use a camera and 381 00:21:10,215 --> 00:21:12,575 Speaker 3: then you had to print off the photographs. But today, 382 00:21:13,175 --> 00:21:16,535 Speaker 3: with you know, almost everyone having a smartphone or having 383 00:21:16,775 --> 00:21:20,255 Speaker 3: a phone with a camera, it's relatively easy. And certainly 384 00:21:21,415 --> 00:21:24,495 Speaker 3: actually I had exactly that the other day. I got 385 00:21:24,495 --> 00:21:26,775 Speaker 3: some guys in to do a small project for me, 386 00:21:27,135 --> 00:21:29,895 Speaker 3: and then I came back to install some benches and 387 00:21:29,935 --> 00:21:32,295 Speaker 3: that sort of thing, and I was like, oh, now 388 00:21:32,335 --> 00:21:34,575 Speaker 3: I'll grab my stud finder and try and figure out. 389 00:21:34,575 --> 00:21:36,295 Speaker 3: And I was a little bit worried there was old 390 00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:38,375 Speaker 3: plumbing in the wall and that sort of thing, And 391 00:21:38,415 --> 00:21:41,215 Speaker 3: of course the contractor, because he's organized, just went, oh, 392 00:21:41,255 --> 00:21:44,015 Speaker 3: hang on a sec, here's the wall with the insulation 393 00:21:44,215 --> 00:21:46,975 Speaker 3: and with the lining. Before the lining goes on, all 394 00:21:47,015 --> 00:21:49,695 Speaker 3: the services are there, and we could work out exactly 395 00:21:49,695 --> 00:21:52,135 Speaker 3: where the studs were, where the pipes might be, and 396 00:21:52,175 --> 00:21:54,615 Speaker 3: that sort of thing, because he'd kept a photograph of it. 397 00:21:54,655 --> 00:22:00,615 Speaker 3: And so yeah, I agree. I think it just tangentially 398 00:22:00,695 --> 00:22:02,975 Speaker 3: to that. One of the things that's been discussed an 399 00:22:03,095 --> 00:22:05,855 Speaker 3: enormous amount at the moment is the idea of remote 400 00:22:05,895 --> 00:22:10,575 Speaker 3: inspections for building consents. Right, So, rather than having the 401 00:22:10,575 --> 00:22:14,255 Speaker 3: building inspector physically visit the site, one of the options 402 00:22:14,375 --> 00:22:18,735 Speaker 3: is for a building inspector in a remote location or 403 00:22:19,095 --> 00:22:21,695 Speaker 3: in their office to be able to dial into the 404 00:22:21,735 --> 00:22:25,695 Speaker 3: contractor on site and then use their phone or the 405 00:22:25,735 --> 00:22:30,415 Speaker 3: camera on their phone to view things inside the building. 406 00:22:30,535 --> 00:22:30,695 Speaker 2: Right. 407 00:22:32,415 --> 00:22:35,095 Speaker 3: Might be a pre line inspection, so that way it 408 00:22:35,135 --> 00:22:39,695 Speaker 3: also captures images of all of those critical stages. There's 409 00:22:39,695 --> 00:22:42,735 Speaker 3: also there I saw someone who had started a business 410 00:22:42,775 --> 00:22:45,895 Speaker 3: in New Zealand where his service is essentially he will 411 00:22:45,935 --> 00:22:49,255 Speaker 3: come to site prior to the lining, so you've got 412 00:22:49,295 --> 00:22:51,495 Speaker 3: the house closed and you've done all your services and 413 00:22:51,535 --> 00:22:54,335 Speaker 3: that sort of thing, and he will do a complete 414 00:22:54,375 --> 00:22:59,295 Speaker 3: scan of the inside of the building photography and it 415 00:22:59,375 --> 00:23:02,535 Speaker 3: will record dimensions and that sort of thing and then 416 00:23:02,575 --> 00:23:06,135 Speaker 3: give that to you as for record keeping later on, 417 00:23:06,855 --> 00:23:09,015 Speaker 3: which is pretty nifty as well. But yeah, I agree. 418 00:23:09,055 --> 00:23:11,055 Speaker 3: I think it's a really useful thing to do. It's 419 00:23:11,135 --> 00:23:13,895 Speaker 3: just it's as simple as you finish the inside of 420 00:23:13,895 --> 00:23:16,295 Speaker 3: the room, you're ready for plaster board, and you just 421 00:23:16,295 --> 00:23:19,575 Speaker 3: stand there and you go photograph, photograph, photograph, photograph. Ideally 422 00:23:19,695 --> 00:23:22,015 Speaker 3: take a moment and you know how you can add 423 00:23:22,055 --> 00:23:25,615 Speaker 3: notes to your photographs just on your camera and just 424 00:23:25,655 --> 00:23:30,495 Speaker 3: go bedroom one north, bedroom, one south, bedroom, one east west, 425 00:23:30,535 --> 00:23:32,775 Speaker 3: that sort of thing. You know. It's great. 426 00:23:33,175 --> 00:23:37,935 Speaker 8: We were and recently we sold a development and we 427 00:23:38,055 --> 00:23:41,615 Speaker 8: gave them the album. I mean, this is a long 428 00:23:41,655 --> 00:23:45,375 Speaker 8: time ago that one was done, yeah, more than twenty 429 00:23:45,455 --> 00:23:51,055 Speaker 8: years ago, and so they were very happy to receive it. 430 00:23:51,655 --> 00:23:53,615 Speaker 3: And I think too, you know, in terms of as 431 00:23:53,655 --> 00:23:56,095 Speaker 3: a developer, as a sales pitch in a sense it 432 00:23:56,535 --> 00:23:58,695 Speaker 3: says that you care. You know, it says that you've 433 00:23:58,695 --> 00:24:01,135 Speaker 3: got an attention to detail, that you've got nothing to hide, 434 00:24:01,175 --> 00:24:03,975 Speaker 3: because literally you're showing them photographs of the inside of 435 00:24:04,015 --> 00:24:08,055 Speaker 3: their walls. And if that goes into a folder or 436 00:24:08,095 --> 00:24:10,895 Speaker 3: it's on a USB stick and it's it's organized, I 437 00:24:10,895 --> 00:24:14,095 Speaker 3: think it's tremendous. In fact, I've been doing some sort 438 00:24:14,095 --> 00:24:20,175 Speaker 3: of investigative work trying to uncover it's a situation where 439 00:24:20,175 --> 00:24:22,935 Speaker 3: a building consent was issued, wasn't signed off, there was 440 00:24:22,975 --> 00:24:25,455 Speaker 3: a notice to fix, there was a subsequent building consent, 441 00:24:25,815 --> 00:24:28,855 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. And I happened to contact the 442 00:24:28,855 --> 00:24:31,255 Speaker 3: building surveyor who was involved in the project, and this 443 00:24:31,295 --> 00:24:35,495 Speaker 3: is twelve years ago and chatting with them on Friday, 444 00:24:35,495 --> 00:24:37,655 Speaker 3: and he goes, Yep, I'll go to my files and 445 00:24:37,695 --> 00:24:39,535 Speaker 3: I'll put it on a USB stick and give it 446 00:24:39,575 --> 00:24:41,975 Speaker 3: to you. So that sort of record keeping I think 447 00:24:42,055 --> 00:24:45,335 Speaker 3: is really really good. Yeah, I'm all for that. Good 448 00:24:45,335 --> 00:24:49,335 Speaker 3: on you, great idea. I love it. All the best 449 00:24:49,335 --> 00:24:51,215 Speaker 3: to you man, You have a great Christmas. Take care. 450 00:24:52,495 --> 00:24:54,215 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've got a 451 00:24:54,295 --> 00:24:57,055 Speaker 3: question or a comment, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is 452 00:24:57,135 --> 00:25:02,295 Speaker 3: the number to call. Oh, Merry Christmas, Pete, and then 453 00:25:02,295 --> 00:25:04,935 Speaker 3: it gets worse from there. We've just replaced our windows 454 00:25:04,935 --> 00:25:08,175 Speaker 3: with aluminium sum sausage, which has scratched the front window. 455 00:25:08,295 --> 00:25:10,695 Speaker 3: Is there a product to go over it that will 456 00:25:10,695 --> 00:25:14,495 Speaker 3: sort of fill in the scratch, maybe a color polish 457 00:25:14,615 --> 00:25:16,975 Speaker 3: or something like that. Love the show. Always get up 458 00:25:16,975 --> 00:25:18,735 Speaker 3: early on a Sunday to listen. Thank you and it's 459 00:25:18,775 --> 00:25:21,175 Speaker 3: lovely to have you with us. I know that there 460 00:25:21,215 --> 00:25:23,695 Speaker 3: are a couple of specialist contractors out there who will 461 00:25:23,695 --> 00:25:27,015 Speaker 3: do repairs to aluminium jewnery for exactly that reason, because 462 00:25:27,255 --> 00:25:31,495 Speaker 3: it happens a lot, right, so it's probably a thriving business. 463 00:25:32,495 --> 00:25:35,055 Speaker 3: I'd suggest you go back to the manufacturer. No one's 464 00:25:35,095 --> 00:25:36,735 Speaker 3: going to own up to the mistake, so go back 465 00:25:36,735 --> 00:25:39,335 Speaker 3: to the manufacturer. They will have a contact, get someone 466 00:25:39,335 --> 00:25:42,575 Speaker 3: out to do it professionally, particularly if it's an area. 467 00:25:43,455 --> 00:25:47,375 Speaker 3: We had someone scratched the aluminium front door, right, so 468 00:25:47,455 --> 00:25:49,175 Speaker 3: it's the first thing you see when you arrive at 469 00:25:49,215 --> 00:25:52,935 Speaker 3: the house. We had someone come do a patch and 470 00:25:52,975 --> 00:25:55,215 Speaker 3: it might have even involved a complete respray of the 471 00:25:55,255 --> 00:25:58,495 Speaker 3: door on site. Absolutely fine, you'll never notice it, but yeah, 472 00:25:58,535 --> 00:26:01,295 Speaker 3: get a professional and thank you too. For the gentleman's 473 00:26:01,335 --> 00:26:04,415 Speaker 3: tech through to go up presuments. Gentlemen, Morning peat over 474 00:26:04,415 --> 00:26:06,695 Speaker 3: the last fifty two years of building. To remove gum 475 00:26:06,695 --> 00:26:09,695 Speaker 3: from the saw blade, I spray the blades while I'm 476 00:26:09,815 --> 00:26:15,295 Speaker 3: using them with diesel or CRC. Probably see RC's a 477 00:26:15,295 --> 00:26:17,095 Speaker 3: bit easier to get your hands on, and it comes 478 00:26:17,095 --> 00:26:20,455 Speaker 3: in an aerosol can. So try that. That was to 479 00:26:20,735 --> 00:26:23,215 Speaker 3: mark our earlier caller who wanted to clean up the blades. 480 00:26:23,295 --> 00:26:25,455 Speaker 3: So it's going to be a bit messy, it's going 481 00:26:25,495 --> 00:26:29,735 Speaker 3: to spray all over the place, but yep, that'd probably 482 00:26:29,735 --> 00:26:31,655 Speaker 3: work as well. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 483 00:26:31,695 --> 00:26:34,295 Speaker 3: is the number to call another quick text as well. Morning. 484 00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:38,255 Speaker 3: A puttering question. I've noticed some discoloration mold in the 485 00:26:38,295 --> 00:26:41,055 Speaker 3: gray silicon in the shower areas. The house is about 486 00:26:41,055 --> 00:26:43,295 Speaker 3: five years old. Can you suggest a product to remove 487 00:26:43,335 --> 00:26:45,975 Speaker 3: and clean it up? Please? A couple of options there 488 00:26:49,255 --> 00:26:54,215 Speaker 3: was it mold killer exit mold works remarkably well if 489 00:26:54,255 --> 00:26:58,655 Speaker 3: it's you know, sort of surface mold. Failing that, if 490 00:26:58,695 --> 00:27:00,815 Speaker 3: the silicon itself has started to break down or the 491 00:27:00,855 --> 00:27:04,335 Speaker 3: molds got in behind it, then maybe it's time to 492 00:27:04,375 --> 00:27:07,375 Speaker 3: just strip out the silicon. You can use a little 493 00:27:07,455 --> 00:27:09,295 Speaker 3: tool to kind of peel it off, and then there 494 00:27:09,295 --> 00:27:13,775 Speaker 3: are silicon cleaners or dissolvers to remove the residue, let 495 00:27:13,775 --> 00:27:16,775 Speaker 3: the area dry thoroughly, and then redo the silicon. Makes 496 00:27:16,775 --> 00:27:19,535 Speaker 3: a big difference herby a very good morning to you. 497 00:27:20,615 --> 00:27:20,815 Speaker 4: Yes. 498 00:27:20,895 --> 00:27:25,095 Speaker 9: Look, I've got a concrete block garage. The concrete block 499 00:27:25,295 --> 00:27:29,255 Speaker 9: garage is on my boundary, and my neighbors planted bamboo 500 00:27:29,375 --> 00:27:30,375 Speaker 9: right up against that. 501 00:27:30,655 --> 00:27:31,255 Speaker 4: What I do? 502 00:27:32,935 --> 00:27:37,975 Speaker 3: Right, So your fence or your block wall definitely inside 503 00:27:38,015 --> 00:27:40,815 Speaker 3: your property on the boundary, but obviously right on the boundary. 504 00:27:41,215 --> 00:27:44,615 Speaker 9: The extent the boundary is outside of my concrete block 505 00:27:44,695 --> 00:27:45,175 Speaker 9: law yea. 506 00:27:45,415 --> 00:27:47,495 Speaker 3: And now it's covered in vegetation. 507 00:27:47,335 --> 00:27:51,455 Speaker 9: From and and I painted the inside of the wall 508 00:27:51,495 --> 00:27:51,855 Speaker 9: and it's. 509 00:27:51,775 --> 00:27:55,415 Speaker 3: All bubbling, ah, because you're getting moisture and from outside. 510 00:27:55,495 --> 00:27:57,295 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, what can I do? 511 00:27:57,815 --> 00:28:00,575 Speaker 3: Look, it's just got to be a conversation with the neighbor. 512 00:28:00,735 --> 00:28:04,775 Speaker 3: And maybe the neighbor is reluctant to do anything about it. 513 00:28:04,775 --> 00:28:08,815 Speaker 3: But if they give you permission to go, I mean, 514 00:28:08,855 --> 00:28:10,815 Speaker 3: the bamboo is going to grow back. 515 00:28:10,695 --> 00:28:14,775 Speaker 9: Isn't it current it's it gives up. 516 00:28:16,975 --> 00:28:22,815 Speaker 3: High, yeah, and it's it's only going to keep going. Look, 517 00:28:22,855 --> 00:28:25,735 Speaker 3: it's just got to be a conversation because I think 518 00:28:26,615 --> 00:28:29,775 Speaker 3: I don't think it will be because I you know, 519 00:28:29,855 --> 00:28:32,335 Speaker 3: I'm assuming that if you were just to simply into 520 00:28:32,375 --> 00:28:35,255 Speaker 3: your neighbor's property and you know, pull the bamboo back 521 00:28:35,375 --> 00:28:37,695 Speaker 3: or something like that and do the painting, well, that's 522 00:28:37,815 --> 00:28:39,175 Speaker 3: kind of trespass, isn't it. 523 00:28:39,255 --> 00:28:39,415 Speaker 4: You know? 524 00:28:39,895 --> 00:28:48,575 Speaker 9: Yes, ah, in terms of the coloring like that. 525 00:28:49,495 --> 00:28:52,175 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you decided to paint a vibrant 526 00:28:52,215 --> 00:28:54,455 Speaker 3: red color or something like that, theybe would probably not 527 00:28:54,495 --> 00:28:58,175 Speaker 3: be too happy. Look, it's it's unfortunate. If you can't 528 00:28:58,175 --> 00:29:01,535 Speaker 3: have a conversation, then I really don't know what your 529 00:29:01,535 --> 00:29:05,335 Speaker 3: options are. You know, potentially under the Property Act, you 530 00:29:05,375 --> 00:29:09,215 Speaker 3: could enforce notice that allows you to get access for 531 00:29:09,415 --> 00:29:14,375 Speaker 3: reasonable tasks like maintenance. But criky, that's you know, swinging 532 00:29:14,415 --> 00:29:15,455 Speaker 3: an awfully big hammer. 533 00:29:15,495 --> 00:29:18,855 Speaker 9: Isn't it actually cut the bamboo a way to be 534 00:29:18,895 --> 00:29:20,695 Speaker 9: able to paint it? 535 00:29:20,815 --> 00:29:21,015 Speaker 4: Yeah? 536 00:29:21,015 --> 00:29:23,495 Speaker 3: I mean, look, and I have seen painters, you know, 537 00:29:23,535 --> 00:29:26,615 Speaker 3: where trees are up against buildings and that just kind 538 00:29:26,615 --> 00:29:29,815 Speaker 3: of wrapper just a drop cloth around them and then 539 00:29:30,015 --> 00:29:33,335 Speaker 3: tie you know, to a strop or to an anchor 540 00:29:33,375 --> 00:29:36,295 Speaker 3: point and pull the tree away for a period of time. 541 00:29:36,375 --> 00:29:38,855 Speaker 3: So if you didn't want to go, but you know 542 00:29:39,135 --> 00:29:41,575 Speaker 3: you could hack half a meter off the side of 543 00:29:41,575 --> 00:29:43,775 Speaker 3: the bamboo and it'll be back in a year's time. 544 00:29:43,815 --> 00:29:45,735 Speaker 3: So it's not like your neighbor's going to lose anything out. 545 00:29:45,775 --> 00:29:46,935 Speaker 3: But it's got to be a conversation. 546 00:29:47,815 --> 00:29:49,055 Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, mate, Well thank you. 547 00:29:49,415 --> 00:29:53,335 Speaker 3: Unfortunately I think it's it's all about contact, all right, 548 00:29:53,455 --> 00:29:55,775 Speaker 3: all the best, do you hear me? Take care all 549 00:29:55,775 --> 00:29:57,775 Speaker 3: of this by by oh, eight hundred and eighty ten 550 00:29:57,895 --> 00:30:03,135 Speaker 3: eighty that number to call discolouration of the mold. Yep, 551 00:30:03,175 --> 00:30:05,615 Speaker 3: we've dealt with that. Seal the inside of the wall 552 00:30:05,655 --> 00:30:08,575 Speaker 3: with armitek. Yeah, not a bad idea. If you can't 553 00:30:08,575 --> 00:30:10,655 Speaker 3: get to the outside, you'll need to strip off the 554 00:30:10,855 --> 00:30:13,655 Speaker 3: inside layer of painting. You need to have a bear 555 00:30:13,695 --> 00:30:16,975 Speaker 3: surface typically with these types of seilants to use. So 556 00:30:17,815 --> 00:30:20,495 Speaker 3: that is another option though. And we're starting to get 557 00:30:20,495 --> 00:30:24,535 Speaker 3: some questions in around four j our painting expert who 558 00:30:24,575 --> 00:30:27,855 Speaker 3: will join us at about seven twenty five this morning, 559 00:30:27,895 --> 00:30:30,655 Speaker 3: Jay from Razine. So if you've got any specific painting 560 00:30:30,775 --> 00:30:34,015 Speaker 3: questions like the couple that have come through already, that's 561 00:30:34,655 --> 00:30:36,535 Speaker 3: you're more than welcome to send them through and we'll 562 00:30:36,535 --> 00:30:39,135 Speaker 3: address those with Jay at seven twenty five this morning. 563 00:30:39,375 --> 00:30:41,615 Speaker 3: We are going to of course be talking with Red 564 00:30:41,655 --> 00:30:44,495 Speaker 3: Climb Past at around eight thirty this morning, So for 565 00:30:44,575 --> 00:30:48,375 Speaker 3: all of your gardening and entomological questions, we can do 566 00:30:48,535 --> 00:30:52,295 Speaker 3: that at around eight thirty this morning. Oh, eight hundred 567 00:30:52,335 --> 00:30:55,495 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call before 568 00:30:55,535 --> 00:30:58,535 Speaker 3: we grab our next caller. Just another text as well, Pete, 569 00:30:58,535 --> 00:31:01,135 Speaker 3: how do I adjust an aluminium door as it catches 570 00:31:01,175 --> 00:31:03,375 Speaker 3: on the bottom of the frame at this time of year, 571 00:31:03,655 --> 00:31:10,895 Speaker 3: but it's okay in winter. Sometimes aliminum doors drop because 572 00:31:11,615 --> 00:31:16,255 Speaker 3: they rely in part on the glass to keep them square. 573 00:31:16,575 --> 00:31:20,495 Speaker 3: So if you've got an aluminium frame, maybe with a 574 00:31:20,495 --> 00:31:23,775 Speaker 3: center rail in it and two pieces of glass, when 575 00:31:23,815 --> 00:31:27,095 Speaker 3: the glass is installed, it needs to be blocked correctly 576 00:31:27,415 --> 00:31:30,215 Speaker 3: so that the glass and a sense offers up some 577 00:31:30,335 --> 00:31:35,655 Speaker 3: support because glasses not going to move. So maybe what 578 00:31:35,775 --> 00:31:39,015 Speaker 3: you'll find in this instance maybe is that the door 579 00:31:39,095 --> 00:31:41,535 Speaker 3: has dropped a little bit because they haven't done the blocking. 580 00:31:41,655 --> 00:31:43,935 Speaker 3: But in order to do the blocking correctly, you probably 581 00:31:43,935 --> 00:31:48,255 Speaker 3: need to get a glazier to come through and redo 582 00:31:48,735 --> 00:31:51,295 Speaker 3: the way in which the glazing has been installed. That 583 00:31:51,375 --> 00:31:54,135 Speaker 3: might be part of it. If it's only a couple 584 00:31:54,135 --> 00:31:57,895 Speaker 3: of millimeters. You can. I've seen it done. It's a horrible, 585 00:31:57,895 --> 00:32:01,255 Speaker 3: horrible sound. If you really wanted to, you could plane 586 00:32:01,415 --> 00:32:04,815 Speaker 3: a little bit of the door off. I think it's 587 00:32:04,895 --> 00:32:08,615 Speaker 3: probably worth getting some of the companies that specialize in 588 00:32:08,695 --> 00:32:12,135 Speaker 3: elimentum maintenance to come through and maybe adjust the door 589 00:32:12,375 --> 00:32:14,975 Speaker 3: a little bit. You can have a go yourself, but 590 00:32:15,015 --> 00:32:17,575 Speaker 3: I think if you want to do it well, it's 591 00:32:17,615 --> 00:32:20,055 Speaker 3: probably a job for some professionals. Oh eight hundred and 592 00:32:20,135 --> 00:32:23,135 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Ah. He's 593 00:32:23,175 --> 00:32:26,535 Speaker 3: a great text as well, Pete. I'm desperately wanting ideas 594 00:32:26,575 --> 00:32:29,255 Speaker 3: for a last minute present for Harvey. He's really hard 595 00:32:29,255 --> 00:32:31,975 Speaker 3: to buy for. He's a great di wire and very practical. 596 00:32:32,015 --> 00:32:34,535 Speaker 3: Any ideas of tools or whatever that wouldn't that you 597 00:32:34,575 --> 00:32:37,615 Speaker 3: wouldn't be without many many thanks and Merry Christmas from Ann. 598 00:32:38,895 --> 00:32:40,575 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, if he hasn't got a good rule, 599 00:32:41,055 --> 00:32:45,495 Speaker 3: I'd throw one of those in. That's quite nifty. I 600 00:32:45,815 --> 00:32:48,255 Speaker 3: happen to be in a tool shop funnily enough this 601 00:32:48,335 --> 00:32:53,375 Speaker 3: week and picked up and I was a little unsure 602 00:32:53,415 --> 00:32:59,295 Speaker 3: about buying this because I have been dismissive in my 603 00:32:59,335 --> 00:33:03,135 Speaker 3: attitude towards these a little a pencil sharpener for a 604 00:33:03,175 --> 00:33:06,975 Speaker 3: carpenter's pencil. So carpenter's pencils typically are sort of rectangular, 605 00:33:07,055 --> 00:33:11,935 Speaker 3: they're not round, and all of us who are tradespeople 606 00:33:12,175 --> 00:33:14,495 Speaker 3: just use our knives to sharpen them. But there is 607 00:33:14,575 --> 00:33:17,895 Speaker 3: now a sharpener for them. So I bought I actually 608 00:33:17,895 --> 00:33:21,775 Speaker 3: bought two, and I might give one away as a 609 00:33:21,775 --> 00:33:25,055 Speaker 3: bit of a joke gift. It's they're not terribly expensive. 610 00:33:25,055 --> 00:33:27,015 Speaker 3: I think it was like four dollars sixty or something 611 00:33:27,055 --> 00:33:30,495 Speaker 3: like that. I did use one yesterday. I'm going to 612 00:33:30,535 --> 00:33:32,895 Speaker 3: go back to using my knife, to be fair. I can't. 613 00:33:32,935 --> 00:33:36,135 Speaker 3: I can't make that shift. That's an option. And then 614 00:33:36,175 --> 00:33:37,735 Speaker 3: the other thing I was thinking about the other day 615 00:33:37,775 --> 00:33:41,455 Speaker 3: is if I was wandering through a different hardware store, 616 00:33:41,575 --> 00:33:44,935 Speaker 3: as it happens, and looking at the vast range of 617 00:33:45,535 --> 00:33:48,535 Speaker 3: Ryobi tools that was out there. And one of the 618 00:33:48,575 --> 00:33:53,535 Speaker 3: great changes I guess to battery power gear with some 619 00:33:54,215 --> 00:33:58,255 Speaker 3: manufacturers is that you can just buy the skin. So 620 00:33:58,535 --> 00:34:01,015 Speaker 3: in the past, whenever you bought a new cordless tool, 621 00:34:01,255 --> 00:34:03,535 Speaker 3: you ended up with a battery and a charger and 622 00:34:03,575 --> 00:34:06,255 Speaker 3: so on, and a certain point you don't need twelve 623 00:34:06,535 --> 00:34:09,455 Speaker 3: charges right, A couple are useful, but twelve is a 624 00:34:09,495 --> 00:34:12,935 Speaker 3: little bit profligate, whereas now today you can just buy 625 00:34:12,975 --> 00:34:16,535 Speaker 3: the skins, so you can extend the range of tools 626 00:34:16,575 --> 00:34:20,015 Speaker 3: from that particular brand by just buying the skins. And 627 00:34:20,055 --> 00:34:23,335 Speaker 3: so I was cruising along looking thinking, Ah, I didn't 628 00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:25,615 Speaker 3: know that you could get a clamp with a fan 629 00:34:25,775 --> 00:34:29,655 Speaker 3: on it, and hush, maybe I should update my torch. 630 00:34:30,335 --> 00:34:33,575 Speaker 3: Or perhaps having a little bluetooth radio that I can 631 00:34:33,615 --> 00:34:36,935 Speaker 3: connect to my Aden Vault Ryobi might be a useful tip. 632 00:34:37,015 --> 00:34:38,655 Speaker 3: So there you go. If you figure out sort of 633 00:34:39,175 --> 00:34:45,455 Speaker 3: in this case here and if you figure out what 634 00:34:46,535 --> 00:34:48,415 Speaker 3: brand of tool, you might be able to find just 635 00:34:48,455 --> 00:34:51,775 Speaker 3: a skin for that, and hopefully it's Ryobi, and you'll 636 00:34:51,775 --> 00:34:54,175 Speaker 3: find I don't know, you know, there's one hundred things 637 00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:56,335 Speaker 3: to choose from, literally one hundred things to choose from. 638 00:34:56,335 --> 00:34:56,535 Speaker 6: There. 639 00:34:57,095 --> 00:34:59,695 Speaker 3: I will keep thinking though about other little stocking stuffers 640 00:34:59,735 --> 00:35:03,695 Speaker 3: in terms of tools and useful gear. Gloves are always 641 00:35:03,695 --> 00:35:07,015 Speaker 3: good to get good pair of gloves lust for a while. 642 00:35:07,175 --> 00:35:09,095 Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. I'll keep 643 00:35:09,135 --> 00:35:11,495 Speaker 3: my thinking cap on there. John, A very good morning 644 00:35:11,495 --> 00:35:11,855 Speaker 3: to you. 645 00:35:13,415 --> 00:35:17,735 Speaker 10: That's good morning people, hey, John. An extension to your 646 00:35:18,255 --> 00:35:24,015 Speaker 10: talk about having the photographs available from the building. So 647 00:35:24,655 --> 00:35:28,655 Speaker 10: this property I bought here were seven years old when 648 00:35:28,655 --> 00:35:31,735 Speaker 10: I bought it. The person was a bachelor that had 649 00:35:31,895 --> 00:35:35,935 Speaker 10: built it and he didn't have any family around. But 650 00:35:36,015 --> 00:35:39,895 Speaker 10: when I bought this property, I walked down and on 651 00:35:39,975 --> 00:35:45,815 Speaker 10: the kitchen table was seventy or so photographs that were 652 00:35:45,855 --> 00:35:48,935 Speaker 10: taken right from a bare section up to nearly the 653 00:35:48,975 --> 00:35:52,735 Speaker 10: completion of the building. But also all the accounts. 654 00:35:53,135 --> 00:35:54,695 Speaker 3: Wow, and the. 655 00:35:54,775 --> 00:35:58,255 Speaker 10: Accounts have been useful and that I can go back 656 00:35:58,255 --> 00:36:02,255 Speaker 10: to them and see who's supplied that, and if I 657 00:36:02,295 --> 00:36:05,455 Speaker 10: need to, I can go back to the originals supplier 658 00:36:05,535 --> 00:36:09,815 Speaker 10: and by a replacement p sort the one in one 659 00:36:09,935 --> 00:36:13,015 Speaker 10: protective case. I had to replace the garage. 660 00:36:12,615 --> 00:36:16,055 Speaker 3: Door, right, yeah, And. 661 00:36:15,015 --> 00:36:18,455 Speaker 10: I and the chap that came to do that, it says, 662 00:36:18,655 --> 00:36:20,255 Speaker 10: do you know what color it is? And I was 663 00:36:20,255 --> 00:36:23,295 Speaker 10: able to go to the accounts and see whose ride 664 00:36:23,335 --> 00:36:25,615 Speaker 10: the garage door and so there's the exact color of 665 00:36:25,695 --> 00:36:30,575 Speaker 10: the door, yep. And so you can imagine that that 666 00:36:30,695 --> 00:36:31,415 Speaker 10: was very helpful. 667 00:36:32,455 --> 00:36:34,495 Speaker 3: And I tell you what, there's also you know, because 668 00:36:34,495 --> 00:36:37,775 Speaker 3: obviously this is you know, this is practical and useful, right, 669 00:36:37,855 --> 00:36:40,055 Speaker 3: And it's one of those things that it's sort of 670 00:36:40,135 --> 00:36:44,415 Speaker 3: become well. People will take the initiative you've done it, 671 00:36:44,535 --> 00:36:46,615 Speaker 3: or the previous owners you your property, you've done it, 672 00:36:46,775 --> 00:36:49,695 Speaker 3: and it's done it. I try and be a little 673 00:36:49,695 --> 00:36:52,375 Speaker 3: bit methodical about projects that I'm doing, where I'll do 674 00:36:52,495 --> 00:36:56,535 Speaker 3: exactly the same thing, you know, photograph important stages of 675 00:36:56,615 --> 00:36:59,295 Speaker 3: the build and then keep that in a file. And 676 00:36:59,415 --> 00:37:01,775 Speaker 3: then when you're talking about keeping the receipts and so on, 677 00:37:02,015 --> 00:37:05,655 Speaker 3: there's an online tool. There's a cloud based system called 678 00:37:05,735 --> 00:37:11,175 Speaker 3: gt SO. It's GTE dot com and it's New Zealand developed, 679 00:37:12,015 --> 00:37:16,575 Speaker 3: and it's a facility where you can upload documents from 680 00:37:16,655 --> 00:37:20,135 Speaker 3: your building project and then hand them over. So once 681 00:37:20,175 --> 00:37:24,175 Speaker 3: you finish the project, you hand over the password essentially 682 00:37:24,295 --> 00:37:27,175 Speaker 3: to this file to a new owner and they will 683 00:37:27,215 --> 00:37:30,415 Speaker 3: be able to keep access to that for the next 684 00:37:30,495 --> 00:37:35,295 Speaker 3: ten years as part of the subscription service, and for example, 685 00:37:35,415 --> 00:37:37,015 Speaker 3: you will be able to record like we did on 686 00:37:37,095 --> 00:37:39,415 Speaker 3: a project a little while ago. It's a color steel 687 00:37:39,495 --> 00:37:41,895 Speaker 3: roof and as it happened, we had color steel cladding. 688 00:37:42,815 --> 00:37:45,055 Speaker 3: One of the important things in the warranty for the 689 00:37:45,135 --> 00:37:47,735 Speaker 3: color steel is that if it's on cladding, you wash 690 00:37:47,815 --> 00:37:50,935 Speaker 3: it once a year, so once you've entered the information, 691 00:37:51,095 --> 00:37:53,655 Speaker 3: so you go into the portal, you go you've got 692 00:37:53,695 --> 00:37:57,455 Speaker 3: color steel. It automatically goes out, finds the warranty documents 693 00:37:57,535 --> 00:38:01,415 Speaker 3: and the producer and the warranty documents and the guarantees 694 00:38:01,495 --> 00:38:04,375 Speaker 3: for it, and uploads that to the portal. Then it 695 00:38:04,535 --> 00:38:06,575 Speaker 3: goes ah. One of the things that you have to 696 00:38:06,615 --> 00:38:08,775 Speaker 3: do is wash it. Every year. I will send a 697 00:38:08,895 --> 00:38:11,735 Speaker 3: reminder to the new owner, have you washed it? Then 698 00:38:11,775 --> 00:38:14,215 Speaker 3: the owner can go out do the washing, take a 699 00:38:14,295 --> 00:38:17,415 Speaker 3: photograph of themselves doing it or something like that, upload 700 00:38:17,535 --> 00:38:21,175 Speaker 3: that to the portal, and keep a maintenance record as well. 701 00:38:21,335 --> 00:38:24,495 Speaker 3: So there's there's some very smart thinking in terms of 702 00:38:24,575 --> 00:38:28,055 Speaker 3: online tools and cloud based tools for exactly that as well. 703 00:38:30,295 --> 00:38:35,295 Speaker 3: Pretty nifty and John, I think the main thing is 704 00:38:35,375 --> 00:38:38,575 Speaker 3: that it speaks to an owner that has some consideration, right, 705 00:38:38,655 --> 00:38:41,615 Speaker 3: if you've done good record keeping and you're able to 706 00:38:41,695 --> 00:38:44,535 Speaker 3: hand over to a new owner, Hey, here's a copy 707 00:38:44,615 --> 00:38:47,775 Speaker 3: of Ideally, I think like it's not typical, but I 708 00:38:47,895 --> 00:38:51,415 Speaker 3: reckon that if you're selling a property that's reasonably recent, 709 00:38:51,655 --> 00:38:54,015 Speaker 3: you should be able to handover copies for example, of 710 00:38:54,135 --> 00:38:56,655 Speaker 3: the certificate code compliance. 711 00:38:59,375 --> 00:39:03,975 Speaker 10: The record drive are even of a person's solicitor's accounts. 712 00:39:04,255 --> 00:39:09,215 Speaker 3: Well, wow, look it's great, it's great. It just offers surety, 713 00:39:09,255 --> 00:39:13,175 Speaker 3: which I think is awesome. Yeah, much appreciative. John. 714 00:39:13,215 --> 00:39:15,695 Speaker 10: Then one of the things that helped with that, I 715 00:39:15,815 --> 00:39:18,855 Speaker 10: suppose was that the person who passed away so right, 716 00:39:19,055 --> 00:39:21,575 Speaker 10: so there was no for them. 717 00:39:21,455 --> 00:39:25,535 Speaker 3: To go yeah, yeah and look older stuff. It's harder 718 00:39:25,575 --> 00:39:28,935 Speaker 3: to keep the records, but these days, with the phones 719 00:39:28,935 --> 00:39:32,855 Speaker 3: and the technology we have, it's so much more convenient. 720 00:39:33,215 --> 00:39:35,095 Speaker 3: Thank you very much for that, John, all the very best. 721 00:39:35,135 --> 00:39:36,815 Speaker 3: We'll talk to Ravens straight after the break. 722 00:39:38,095 --> 00:39:38,335 Speaker 7: Thank you. 723 00:39:38,655 --> 00:39:41,175 Speaker 3: We're going to Raven's. Is going to wait till after 724 00:39:41,335 --> 00:39:43,415 Speaker 3: seven o'clock because we're a little bit tight for time. 725 00:39:44,295 --> 00:39:46,575 Speaker 3: Thank you to this to Bert. I think who's text 726 00:39:46,615 --> 00:39:49,055 Speaker 3: through Pete Regarding the tall skins. My wife was listening 727 00:39:49,135 --> 00:39:51,575 Speaker 3: asked what the heck is a skin? So I explained, 728 00:39:51,615 --> 00:39:53,775 Speaker 3: and she said, well he should say that on air, 729 00:39:53,935 --> 00:39:56,895 Speaker 3: as the woman is asking question may not understand. Yes, 730 00:39:57,015 --> 00:39:59,615 Speaker 3: good point. So skins is a way of referring to 731 00:39:59,975 --> 00:40:03,735 Speaker 3: being able to buy a cordless or a battery powered 732 00:40:03,855 --> 00:40:06,895 Speaker 3: tool without buying the entire kit. So let's say you've 733 00:40:06,895 --> 00:40:09,015 Speaker 3: already got a drill and a driver, and it came 734 00:40:09,095 --> 00:40:11,215 Speaker 3: with a battery and a charger. And then you want 735 00:40:11,295 --> 00:40:14,935 Speaker 3: to buy, for example, a torch, well, if you can 736 00:40:15,095 --> 00:40:18,255 Speaker 3: just buy the torch right, doesn't come with a battery, 737 00:40:18,535 --> 00:40:20,455 Speaker 3: doesn't come with a charger. And when you do that, 738 00:40:20,655 --> 00:40:23,735 Speaker 3: you buy just the tool, not the battery or the charger. 739 00:40:23,895 --> 00:40:24,575 Speaker 3: That's a skin. 740 00:40:25,855 --> 00:40:26,175 Speaker 10: There you go. 741 00:40:26,295 --> 00:40:30,015 Speaker 3: Hopefully that explains it. It's very useful. For a long 742 00:40:30,095 --> 00:40:32,295 Speaker 3: time that wasn't possible, but it is. Now we are 743 00:40:32,375 --> 00:40:35,775 Speaker 3: back after the break. Your news talk said, be welcome 744 00:40:35,815 --> 00:40:37,855 Speaker 3: back to the program. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten 745 00:40:37,975 --> 00:40:40,575 Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. At around seven twenty five, 746 00:40:41,175 --> 00:40:44,735 Speaker 3: we'll catch up with Jay, our painting expert from Razine. 747 00:40:45,375 --> 00:40:49,135 Speaker 3: Got some great texts coming through or ready, so we'll 748 00:40:49,255 --> 00:40:51,855 Speaker 3: we'll deal with those at about seven twenty five. Right now, though, 749 00:40:52,015 --> 00:40:56,495 Speaker 3: your opportunity to talk all things building and construction, and 750 00:40:56,575 --> 00:40:59,735 Speaker 3: I like the discussion that we've just started around record keeping, 751 00:41:01,335 --> 00:41:05,695 Speaker 3: which it's one of those things you can do it 752 00:41:06,335 --> 00:41:09,775 Speaker 3: ever need it, and then you kind of go, why 753 00:41:09,855 --> 00:41:11,695 Speaker 3: did I bother? And then every now and then you 754 00:41:11,895 --> 00:41:16,415 Speaker 3: encounter a situation where if someone had have kept records 755 00:41:16,415 --> 00:41:18,815 Speaker 3: and I'm talking about you know, like photographs of a 756 00:41:18,975 --> 00:41:22,615 Speaker 3: wall prior to lining, or copies of the receipts. Our 757 00:41:22,655 --> 00:41:26,655 Speaker 3: conversation with John just beforehand, you know that I think 758 00:41:26,775 --> 00:41:30,975 Speaker 3: the one instance a property had available at time of 759 00:41:31,095 --> 00:41:34,535 Speaker 3: purchase all of the receipts from all of the contractors 760 00:41:34,575 --> 00:41:39,375 Speaker 3: who are involved in the build. That's fantastic. And he 761 00:41:39,455 --> 00:41:42,055 Speaker 3: talked about, you know, needing a replacement garage door or 762 00:41:42,095 --> 00:41:44,695 Speaker 3: some maintenance on a garage door. Well, there's the copy 763 00:41:44,935 --> 00:41:48,375 Speaker 3: of the invoice for the supply and the installation of 764 00:41:48,375 --> 00:41:51,375 Speaker 3: the garage door. It's got the installer's detail, it's got 765 00:41:51,415 --> 00:41:54,415 Speaker 3: the manufacturer's details on it, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 766 00:41:54,935 --> 00:41:57,655 Speaker 3: If there's an issue, and if it's within a warranty period, 767 00:41:58,415 --> 00:42:00,175 Speaker 3: then you can go back to them and go, hey, 768 00:42:00,255 --> 00:42:02,095 Speaker 3: you need to attend, or even if it's outside of 769 00:42:02,135 --> 00:42:04,215 Speaker 3: the warranty period and you're just looking for advice on 770 00:42:04,295 --> 00:42:07,295 Speaker 3: that particular one. If you've got the records, it's there. 771 00:42:08,215 --> 00:42:11,615 Speaker 3: And like I say, there's now digital and online cloud 772 00:42:11,695 --> 00:42:15,175 Speaker 3: based platforms as well which you can use to upload 773 00:42:15,335 --> 00:42:19,135 Speaker 3: all of that information as well, so you can't lose it. Oh, 774 00:42:19,175 --> 00:42:20,855 Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you want to 775 00:42:20,895 --> 00:42:23,295 Speaker 3: talk about anything to do with building, the lines are 776 00:42:23,335 --> 00:42:25,295 Speaker 3: open for you now. And Rawan, thank you very much 777 00:42:25,335 --> 00:42:27,295 Speaker 3: for waiting. How are you well? 778 00:42:27,375 --> 00:42:30,655 Speaker 11: Some thanks pee. Look, I rang a few weeks ago 779 00:42:30,775 --> 00:42:34,335 Speaker 11: regarding a leak that I've got coming somewhere from the shower. Yes, 780 00:42:34,735 --> 00:42:37,775 Speaker 11: through about a meter of tiles from the shower door 781 00:42:37,975 --> 00:42:40,815 Speaker 11: to the carpet where the carpet work joins the living area. 782 00:42:42,375 --> 00:42:44,015 Speaker 11: They've had a lot of had plumbers look at it, 783 00:42:44,055 --> 00:42:45,695 Speaker 11: builders look at it, and they all reckon that the 784 00:42:45,775 --> 00:42:48,775 Speaker 11: water is coming across the top of the tiles. Now 785 00:42:48,895 --> 00:42:50,415 Speaker 11: I don't know how they can stay the top of 786 00:42:50,535 --> 00:42:53,535 Speaker 11: the tiles. Yeah, coming from across the top of the 787 00:42:53,615 --> 00:42:57,095 Speaker 11: tiles that I walk on, and I can't see how 788 00:42:57,215 --> 00:43:00,695 Speaker 11: they I'm having a shower there every morning and I 789 00:43:00,855 --> 00:43:02,495 Speaker 11: check for water. There is no one. There might be 790 00:43:02,495 --> 00:43:05,495 Speaker 11: about a teaspoon worth right outside the shower in the corner, 791 00:43:06,815 --> 00:43:09,695 Speaker 11: but there's no way that the water is tracking along 792 00:43:09,775 --> 00:43:12,175 Speaker 11: the top of the times. That's coming from underneath. And 793 00:43:12,335 --> 00:43:16,895 Speaker 11: I've been putting a handytawel underneath the carpet, underneath the underlay, 794 00:43:16,935 --> 00:43:20,175 Speaker 11: which is very thin, and the carpet, and every morning 795 00:43:20,615 --> 00:43:24,455 Speaker 11: by about ten thirty ten to fifteen, there's half of 796 00:43:24,535 --> 00:43:28,375 Speaker 11: that that handytail is wet, and then by that twelve 797 00:43:28,495 --> 00:43:33,015 Speaker 11: fifteen it is soaking wet. And they've put some a 798 00:43:33,215 --> 00:43:36,935 Speaker 11: strip of silicon on with the piece of aluminium step 799 00:43:37,015 --> 00:43:39,975 Speaker 11: over to get into the shower. They've put some silicon 800 00:43:40,255 --> 00:43:42,775 Speaker 11: along there under there on the inside of the shower 801 00:43:42,815 --> 00:43:45,855 Speaker 11: part and somewhere up I didn't watch them. We put 802 00:43:45,895 --> 00:43:50,695 Speaker 11: it somewhere up going upwards as well. That they obviously 803 00:43:50,695 --> 00:43:52,895 Speaker 11: thought that would it solve the problem, but it hasn't. 804 00:43:52,975 --> 00:43:57,895 Speaker 11: It's just I'm keeping a diary now and I just wondered, 805 00:43:58,095 --> 00:44:00,775 Speaker 11: is there any other place that can be coming from? 806 00:44:00,855 --> 00:44:02,735 Speaker 11: I mean, it's got to be coming some in term, 807 00:44:02,775 --> 00:44:05,775 Speaker 11: it's got to be coming from underneath the tiles, but 808 00:44:05,855 --> 00:44:07,935 Speaker 11: on top of concrete, and it's got to be tracking 809 00:44:08,735 --> 00:44:12,615 Speaker 11: trekking along to the carpet to get to get to 810 00:44:12,735 --> 00:44:16,095 Speaker 11: making it so silly. Underneath it's been black mold. That 811 00:44:16,215 --> 00:44:19,375 Speaker 11: the piece of wooden strip that's got the text on 812 00:44:19,495 --> 00:44:21,015 Speaker 11: it that that the carpet. 813 00:44:20,935 --> 00:44:23,295 Speaker 4: Yes, that is like black. 814 00:44:24,415 --> 00:44:25,495 Speaker 11: I guess this black mold. 815 00:44:26,255 --> 00:44:29,175 Speaker 3: And after that it will start to decay, right, that's 816 00:44:29,215 --> 00:44:29,935 Speaker 3: what's going to happen. 817 00:44:32,055 --> 00:44:32,535 Speaker 11: It's not gonna. 818 00:44:32,615 --> 00:44:38,455 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna right, so the floors decay. I mean, 819 00:44:38,695 --> 00:44:40,535 Speaker 3: I'm a little bit surprised by their advice in the 820 00:44:40,615 --> 00:44:43,335 Speaker 3: sense that you know, if you're if you make the claim, 821 00:44:43,375 --> 00:44:45,415 Speaker 3: well it's water that is flowing over the top of 822 00:44:45,455 --> 00:44:47,695 Speaker 3: the tiles, and you're in there having a shower, and 823 00:44:47,895 --> 00:44:50,215 Speaker 3: you you know that there is no water flowing on 824 00:44:50,295 --> 00:44:53,215 Speaker 3: top of the tiles, then that that's not the answer, 825 00:44:53,335 --> 00:44:58,015 Speaker 3: is it. I think that it's tracking along between the 826 00:44:58,095 --> 00:45:02,975 Speaker 3: tile and the waterproofing and then exiting out and and 827 00:45:04,055 --> 00:45:06,015 Speaker 3: there's potentially a whole lot of things going on there. 828 00:45:06,535 --> 00:45:08,695 Speaker 3: Is it a level entry shower. 829 00:45:10,815 --> 00:45:12,695 Speaker 11: Level entry? They can't put a level on it, And 830 00:45:12,815 --> 00:45:14,255 Speaker 11: to me it looked like it was level because I've 831 00:45:14,255 --> 00:45:16,655 Speaker 11: got a level too, But it might have they reckon 832 00:45:17,015 --> 00:45:19,495 Speaker 11: it could be that three mill out like three mil 833 00:45:19,575 --> 00:45:22,495 Speaker 11: on a on a lean, but it's not leaning enough 834 00:45:22,615 --> 00:45:25,015 Speaker 11: to make a torrent of water. There's no water on 835 00:45:25,095 --> 00:45:27,135 Speaker 11: the top of the tiles anyway to flow down there. 836 00:45:27,455 --> 00:45:29,015 Speaker 3: It won't be on top of the tiles, it'll be 837 00:45:29,095 --> 00:45:33,055 Speaker 3: tracking between the tile and the waterproofing through the adhesive. 838 00:45:33,135 --> 00:45:35,855 Speaker 3: And then there's issue. You know, there might be. It 839 00:45:35,975 --> 00:45:39,015 Speaker 3: often becomes really small things. I suspect there's no water 840 00:45:39,095 --> 00:45:42,695 Speaker 3: stop between the shower area and the floor, which there 841 00:45:42,695 --> 00:45:44,735 Speaker 3: should be if it's a level entry shower. 842 00:45:46,015 --> 00:45:49,175 Speaker 11: And an entry shower, and it's got I mean it's 843 00:45:49,175 --> 00:45:49,535 Speaker 11: a level. 844 00:45:50,135 --> 00:45:52,295 Speaker 3: So when you walk from you on your if you're 845 00:45:52,335 --> 00:45:55,575 Speaker 3: walking on your bathroom floor and then you go to 846 00:45:55,735 --> 00:45:58,655 Speaker 3: step into the shower, do you step over like what 847 00:45:58,775 --> 00:46:01,055 Speaker 3: we call a hob or a little upstand or is 848 00:46:01,135 --> 00:46:01,655 Speaker 3: it level? 849 00:46:02,335 --> 00:46:04,975 Speaker 11: It's just a little aluminium about not even maybe a 850 00:46:05,095 --> 00:46:07,415 Speaker 11: ninch eie, not even a ninch, just a bit of aluminium. 851 00:46:07,655 --> 00:46:12,775 Speaker 11: Then I stepped over. So then the water tie, then 852 00:46:12,815 --> 00:46:14,975 Speaker 11: the tiles slope down towards the drain hole. 853 00:46:14,815 --> 00:46:18,095 Speaker 10: Obviously on a very light How old is the job. 854 00:46:19,735 --> 00:46:20,815 Speaker 8: The house? 855 00:46:20,855 --> 00:46:24,535 Speaker 11: Well, it's in a retirement village and it would be 856 00:46:25,175 --> 00:46:26,735 Speaker 11: her twenty years old, I guess. 857 00:46:27,215 --> 00:46:31,335 Speaker 3: Okay, so it's outside of warranty. But with respect, if 858 00:46:31,335 --> 00:46:35,535 Speaker 3: it's in a retirement village, then you have a license 859 00:46:35,575 --> 00:46:37,575 Speaker 3: to occupy, but you don't own it, in which case 860 00:46:37,615 --> 00:46:41,335 Speaker 3: it becomes an issue for the property manager. 861 00:46:42,255 --> 00:46:44,175 Speaker 11: That's right, So it does, and he's been here and 862 00:46:44,295 --> 00:46:45,735 Speaker 11: they just he gets a builder to come and have 863 00:46:45,815 --> 00:46:47,855 Speaker 11: a lock, and they just said me, they come and 864 00:46:48,015 --> 00:46:49,735 Speaker 11: check it out while I'm not here, run a whole 865 00:46:49,775 --> 00:46:51,575 Speaker 11: lot of water, and then there might be a tiny 866 00:46:51,575 --> 00:46:52,855 Speaker 11: bit of water on the floor, and they say, oh, 867 00:46:52,895 --> 00:46:55,975 Speaker 11: it's coming across the floor, it's coming across the title. Hey, 868 00:46:56,175 --> 00:46:58,055 Speaker 11: when I get out of the showering morning, I check 869 00:46:58,295 --> 00:46:59,375 Speaker 11: to see there's any water there. 870 00:46:59,415 --> 00:47:00,175 Speaker 4: There is no water. 871 00:47:00,615 --> 00:47:02,815 Speaker 11: Maybe there might be a little drop, like a teeth thingful, 872 00:47:03,215 --> 00:47:05,495 Speaker 11: and that ain't going to run along towards a meter 873 00:47:05,615 --> 00:47:07,935 Speaker 11: across the noted look. 874 00:47:08,015 --> 00:47:10,895 Speaker 3: I wonder whether in the end, I think you you know, 875 00:47:10,975 --> 00:47:12,375 Speaker 3: the people who are coming to look at it are 876 00:47:12,415 --> 00:47:16,095 Speaker 3: being a bit dismissive and they are so on, So 877 00:47:16,295 --> 00:47:18,975 Speaker 3: I rather than continue to deal with them, I think 878 00:47:19,015 --> 00:47:21,695 Speaker 3: you need to go to management, to the owner of 879 00:47:21,815 --> 00:47:25,575 Speaker 3: the complex and just go, look, this is in the end, 880 00:47:26,255 --> 00:47:28,495 Speaker 3: you're going to stop occupying the building and it's going 881 00:47:28,575 --> 00:47:32,055 Speaker 3: to be somebody else's problem. But the owner of the building, 882 00:47:32,135 --> 00:47:34,775 Speaker 3: it's in their best interest to deal with this, and 883 00:47:34,855 --> 00:47:36,655 Speaker 3: the people that they're sending are not dealing with it. 884 00:47:36,735 --> 00:47:39,215 Speaker 3: So I would go to management and go, hey, you 885 00:47:39,335 --> 00:47:41,575 Speaker 3: need to give me a better contractor to look at them. 886 00:47:42,775 --> 00:47:44,655 Speaker 11: The manager's already been to have a look at it herself. 887 00:47:44,775 --> 00:47:48,735 Speaker 11: But to rectify the problem they would have to do 888 00:47:48,855 --> 00:47:49,575 Speaker 11: at the tiles. 889 00:47:49,375 --> 00:47:52,135 Speaker 3: And they I think so someone has text through and said, look, 890 00:47:52,215 --> 00:47:55,015 Speaker 3: potentially there is a leak and a pipe in the slab. 891 00:47:56,695 --> 00:48:00,535 Speaker 3: That does happen, it's relatively rare. It could be a 892 00:48:00,615 --> 00:48:06,735 Speaker 3: blockage in the wastewater pipe that is causing the water 893 00:48:06,855 --> 00:48:09,895 Speaker 3: when it goes through the drain to block and but 894 00:48:10,135 --> 00:48:12,815 Speaker 3: you know, it's a long way through the slab, and 895 00:48:13,415 --> 00:48:16,335 Speaker 3: if the water appears at the doorway not long after 896 00:48:16,375 --> 00:48:19,615 Speaker 3: you've had a shower, then the shortest direction is traveling 897 00:48:19,735 --> 00:48:24,215 Speaker 3: between the waterproofing and the tile, and that will involve 898 00:48:24,375 --> 00:48:27,455 Speaker 3: the replacement of the tiles. But you know that's quite 899 00:48:27,495 --> 00:48:29,495 Speaker 3: a big job, and they probably reluctant to do that 900 00:48:29,615 --> 00:48:30,855 Speaker 3: while you're there. 901 00:48:32,615 --> 00:48:34,335 Speaker 11: I'm an old lady and I don't know what I'm talking. 902 00:48:34,135 --> 00:48:37,575 Speaker 3: About, but look, I think you've just got to go 903 00:48:37,695 --> 00:48:39,895 Speaker 3: further up the chain in terms of the communication that 904 00:48:39,975 --> 00:48:42,895 Speaker 3: you're having all the best your own, you take care 905 00:48:42,895 --> 00:48:46,175 Speaker 3: of pleasure, all the best. By then, oh eight hundred 906 00:48:46,175 --> 00:48:48,735 Speaker 3: and eighty, ten eighty, it is seven fifteen here at 907 00:48:48,775 --> 00:48:50,735 Speaker 3: news Talk, said be Mike good morning. 908 00:48:52,455 --> 00:48:56,775 Speaker 12: Retra foot in a house, it's going to be it's 909 00:48:57,335 --> 00:49:01,495 Speaker 12: underneath the floor. It's only three hundred between the ground 910 00:49:01,615 --> 00:49:04,335 Speaker 12: and the bottom of the joist. Now, I don't think 911 00:49:04,375 --> 00:49:07,935 Speaker 12: it actually specifies a height, but it just talks about 912 00:49:08,015 --> 00:49:10,775 Speaker 12: health and safety as normally you can do it. That 913 00:49:10,895 --> 00:49:12,495 Speaker 12: would be too tightn't it. 914 00:49:12,775 --> 00:49:15,015 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say so, and especially when you're saying 915 00:49:15,055 --> 00:49:17,895 Speaker 3: it's three hundred to the joist, and then typically the 916 00:49:17,975 --> 00:49:20,175 Speaker 3: joist will be sitting on a bearer, in which case 917 00:49:21,695 --> 00:49:25,535 Speaker 3: the bearers would be well at the very least two 918 00:49:25,655 --> 00:49:29,575 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty millimeters. Well maybe a few years ago 919 00:49:29,615 --> 00:49:31,855 Speaker 3: I could have got through two hundred and fifty millimeters, 920 00:49:31,895 --> 00:49:36,455 Speaker 3: but not anymore so, no, I think because in terms 921 00:49:36,495 --> 00:49:39,575 Speaker 3: of the Healthy Homes legislation, it's required to put insulation 922 00:49:39,815 --> 00:49:44,015 Speaker 3: in an accessible underfloor space, and I would declare that 923 00:49:44,135 --> 00:49:47,255 Speaker 3: that is inaccessible due to health and safety concerns. 924 00:49:47,295 --> 00:49:50,695 Speaker 12: That you know, they don't actually specify a height, do they. 925 00:49:51,015 --> 00:49:55,615 Speaker 3: No, No, there's not actually, and I have read through 926 00:49:55,615 --> 00:49:58,695 Speaker 3: it because at one stage I thought there was there 927 00:49:58,775 --> 00:50:01,575 Speaker 3: was a detail around not having to have a vapor 928 00:50:01,655 --> 00:50:05,015 Speaker 3: barrier if the floor was a certain height above the ground. 929 00:50:05,095 --> 00:50:07,215 Speaker 3: But in fact, that's I can't find that in the 930 00:50:07,335 --> 00:50:11,095 Speaker 3: legislation either. So yeah, I think in terms of if 931 00:50:11,135 --> 00:50:14,535 Speaker 3: you're doing a healthy Home certificate, you would probably say 932 00:50:14,855 --> 00:50:19,095 Speaker 3: insulation underfloor no, and then add in a comment there 933 00:50:19,135 --> 00:50:22,695 Speaker 3: that says due to health and safety concerns, it's not 934 00:50:22,895 --> 00:50:26,095 Speaker 3: accessible and so there won't be a retrofit of insulation, 935 00:50:26,175 --> 00:50:28,615 Speaker 3: which is unfortunate. We all know that it's a good thing, 936 00:50:29,935 --> 00:50:32,855 Speaker 3: but realistically no, I. 937 00:50:32,935 --> 00:50:34,775 Speaker 12: Mean, even when it's tight, even if you can get 938 00:50:34,855 --> 00:50:36,655 Speaker 12: under the you've still got to be able to work. 939 00:50:36,735 --> 00:50:37,975 Speaker 12: That's the problem as well. 940 00:50:38,375 --> 00:50:40,575 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and ideally you need to be able 941 00:50:40,615 --> 00:50:43,135 Speaker 3: to roll over. So typically when we're building from new 942 00:50:43,375 --> 00:50:45,655 Speaker 3: the requirement is I think, off the top of my head, 943 00:50:45,695 --> 00:50:48,775 Speaker 3: you need four hundred and fifty millimeters from the underside 944 00:50:48,815 --> 00:50:53,575 Speaker 3: of the bearer to the ground. Yeah, and you won't 945 00:50:53,655 --> 00:50:58,015 Speaker 3: have that, all right, no trouble. It may pay, you know, 946 00:50:58,215 --> 00:51:00,655 Speaker 3: just in case, if you are the landlord or if 947 00:51:00,695 --> 00:51:05,215 Speaker 3: you're doing the insulation statement, just go through and maybe 948 00:51:05,295 --> 00:51:08,615 Speaker 3: attach a copy of the regulations, just so that people 949 00:51:08,855 --> 00:51:10,735 Speaker 3: understand that you're not just trying to get out of 950 00:51:10,775 --> 00:51:13,895 Speaker 3: the job. Oh you know what I mean, you know, 951 00:51:14,455 --> 00:51:16,335 Speaker 3: you know what people are like. All right, mate, all 952 00:51:16,375 --> 00:51:19,375 Speaker 3: the best to you, take care, Thanks Mike. Eight hundred 953 00:51:19,455 --> 00:51:23,655 Speaker 3: eighty eight is the number to call. And Galvin, good 954 00:51:23,695 --> 00:51:24,135 Speaker 3: morning to you. 955 00:51:25,855 --> 00:51:27,095 Speaker 7: Yeah, good morning morning. 956 00:51:28,375 --> 00:51:28,735 Speaker 3: What's up? 957 00:51:28,775 --> 00:51:34,455 Speaker 7: Yeah? Okay, I've got an eighteen year old houses built 958 00:51:34,495 --> 00:51:39,895 Speaker 7: eighteen years ago, solid concrete block, solid field of course, 959 00:51:39,895 --> 00:51:42,655 Speaker 7: and then the parapets that stick up above the roofline 960 00:51:43,615 --> 00:51:47,535 Speaker 7: they have they're on a very generous angle good so 961 00:51:47,975 --> 00:51:52,015 Speaker 7: absolutely no water pools. But at the time they decided 962 00:51:52,055 --> 00:51:54,775 Speaker 7: to put mutiny old capping around the top, which they 963 00:51:54,855 --> 00:51:58,655 Speaker 7: did and it looked fine until the years later the 964 00:51:58,855 --> 00:52:02,775 Speaker 7: black stouts are leaps down off the angle. Part that's irrelevant. 965 00:52:02,815 --> 00:52:05,215 Speaker 7: I just want to would like to remove it. And 966 00:52:06,335 --> 00:52:09,335 Speaker 7: I believe there are quite good razine products around now 967 00:52:09,495 --> 00:52:12,295 Speaker 7: that you can actually put on there that are silicon 968 00:52:12,375 --> 00:52:16,375 Speaker 7: based or whatever that are quite good waterproofing. But I 969 00:52:16,655 --> 00:52:19,735 Speaker 7: think I don't think that's the issue. I'm thinking about 970 00:52:19,775 --> 00:52:22,375 Speaker 7: the glues that would be there. How would you remove it? 971 00:52:22,935 --> 00:52:25,455 Speaker 7: Can you remove it or can you treat it or whatever? 972 00:52:26,535 --> 00:52:27,855 Speaker 7: And could the job be done? 973 00:52:27,855 --> 00:52:28,255 Speaker 11: Do you think? 974 00:52:29,495 --> 00:52:31,655 Speaker 3: Let me just ask a couple of specific questions. So 975 00:52:32,135 --> 00:52:35,815 Speaker 3: the block wall extends up and then there is a 976 00:52:35,975 --> 00:52:38,895 Speaker 3: fleshing over the top, and have they created that fleshing? 977 00:52:39,055 --> 00:52:41,375 Speaker 3: And Bututanyl correct. 978 00:52:41,535 --> 00:52:46,015 Speaker 7: Yeah, at the time, the architect didn't even ask for 979 00:52:46,135 --> 00:52:48,375 Speaker 7: the He just says, look, I've got a generous angle 980 00:52:48,455 --> 00:52:50,975 Speaker 7: on there as the way overseas and and the next 981 00:52:51,015 --> 00:52:53,735 Speaker 7: thing come back and it's the end. I thought it's okay. 982 00:52:53,775 --> 00:52:57,295 Speaker 7: It looked great until the black starts leaching. It's aged. 983 00:52:57,375 --> 00:52:59,975 Speaker 7: Now it's sounding crack. I thought I could replace. 984 00:52:59,735 --> 00:53:03,095 Speaker 3: It, Yeah, I'd rather Why wouldn't you replace it with 985 00:53:03,175 --> 00:53:04,295 Speaker 3: a metal fleshing. 986 00:53:05,735 --> 00:53:08,535 Speaker 7: Because of the look. The appearance would not lend to it. 987 00:53:08,775 --> 00:53:12,695 Speaker 7: And it's very very rounded. It lots of round parts 988 00:53:12,735 --> 00:53:15,935 Speaker 7: on it. You know, it wouldn't couldn't know it was 989 00:53:16,015 --> 00:53:16,455 Speaker 7: the way to go. 990 00:53:16,695 --> 00:53:18,775 Speaker 4: But can I do that? 991 00:53:19,455 --> 00:53:21,975 Speaker 3: I just think that's such a poor detail, you know, 992 00:53:22,615 --> 00:53:25,415 Speaker 3: And I'm hesitant to criticize the architect and all the 993 00:53:25,455 --> 00:53:28,575 Speaker 3: rest of it, but you know, for something like that, 994 00:53:28,935 --> 00:53:31,655 Speaker 3: for a flashing on top of a parapet wall, you 995 00:53:31,775 --> 00:53:37,495 Speaker 3: want that to be robust, right. Look, I wouldn't rely 996 00:53:37,615 --> 00:53:40,175 Speaker 3: on a paint system for that, and you know, I 997 00:53:40,255 --> 00:53:43,295 Speaker 3: trust the paint systems when they're used in the right application, 998 00:53:43,495 --> 00:53:48,095 Speaker 3: but using it on a not quite vertical surface, even 999 00:53:48,135 --> 00:53:50,295 Speaker 3: if there is let's say there's fifteen or twenty degree 1000 00:53:50,335 --> 00:53:52,655 Speaker 3: pitch on there so the water doesn't pull on there. 1001 00:53:53,135 --> 00:53:55,415 Speaker 3: I still don't think that a painted system is the 1002 00:53:55,535 --> 00:53:59,455 Speaker 3: right application there. I wonder whether if you can get 1003 00:53:59,535 --> 00:54:03,135 Speaker 3: the buttantnoll off, whether you look at getting a waterproofer 1004 00:54:03,215 --> 00:54:06,895 Speaker 3: and to do either a torch on membrane, so like 1005 00:54:06,975 --> 00:54:11,575 Speaker 3: a bitumen based product or a TPO which is a 1006 00:54:12,215 --> 00:54:16,615 Speaker 3: plasticized product which can be adhered down and is quite flexible. 1007 00:54:16,855 --> 00:54:18,855 Speaker 3: So it will but it will be a lot more 1008 00:54:18,975 --> 00:54:22,815 Speaker 3: robust than what you've had there. So I don't think 1009 00:54:22,815 --> 00:54:25,975 Speaker 3: it's a painting solution. I think it's a proper flashing 1010 00:54:26,095 --> 00:54:26,695 Speaker 3: type solution. 1011 00:54:28,335 --> 00:54:31,575 Speaker 7: Okay, all right, what was the first one you suggested? 1012 00:54:32,295 --> 00:54:35,775 Speaker 3: So there's torch on membranes like Viking membranes for example, 1013 00:54:37,015 --> 00:54:40,895 Speaker 3: and then there's TPOs. So Viking will have a range 1014 00:54:40,895 --> 00:54:45,055 Speaker 3: of products and they've got their own licensed applicators to 1015 00:54:45,135 --> 00:54:47,415 Speaker 3: do it as well. So that the beauty of either 1016 00:54:47,735 --> 00:54:50,815 Speaker 3: the Viking type product which is an asphalt based one, 1017 00:54:50,935 --> 00:54:53,335 Speaker 3: or the TPOs is that they are you know, you 1018 00:54:53,455 --> 00:54:55,135 Speaker 3: can be a little bit creative in terms of the 1019 00:54:55,255 --> 00:54:58,335 Speaker 3: shapes that you create with it. You still don't want 1020 00:54:58,375 --> 00:55:01,215 Speaker 3: any sharp corners. So if it's pitching, let's say, and 1021 00:55:01,255 --> 00:55:04,255 Speaker 3: then it drops down, you'd want that rounded off. And 1022 00:55:04,375 --> 00:55:07,615 Speaker 3: you probably find that if the has been formed over 1023 00:55:08,135 --> 00:55:11,375 Speaker 3: a reasonably sharp corner, that that that will break up 1024 00:55:11,415 --> 00:55:13,375 Speaker 3: over time as you would expect. 1025 00:55:13,375 --> 00:55:16,815 Speaker 7: It is exactly right here. And yeah, okay, oh no, 1026 00:55:16,975 --> 00:55:18,375 Speaker 7: that's great. Okay, thanks very much. 1027 00:55:18,455 --> 00:55:22,415 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's where I would head. Yep, thank you, alrighty, 1028 00:55:22,575 --> 00:55:24,615 Speaker 3: all the best of you, Calvin. You take care. We 1029 00:55:24,735 --> 00:55:26,335 Speaker 3: can take a short break. Then we're going to get 1030 00:55:26,575 --> 00:55:28,655 Speaker 3: Jay on the line, and then we're going to talk 1031 00:55:28,775 --> 00:55:32,015 Speaker 3: about your building or your painting questions. Still got time 1032 00:55:32,055 --> 00:55:35,375 Speaker 3: for a couple more texts nine to nine two Jay 1033 00:55:35,535 --> 00:55:39,695 Speaker 3: from Razine and just a moment, righty oh, this morning 1034 00:55:39,695 --> 00:55:41,535 Speaker 3: we're a bang on time actually, and I know that 1035 00:55:41,575 --> 00:55:43,295 Speaker 3: we're bang on time because I got this flash new 1036 00:55:43,375 --> 00:55:47,415 Speaker 3: clock in the studio. It's a great Christmas present. Ten 1037 00:55:47,535 --> 00:55:49,735 Speaker 3: years I've waited for this to be installed, and here 1038 00:55:49,775 --> 00:55:52,735 Speaker 3: it is today, the last Sunday before Christmas. I am 1039 00:55:52,895 --> 00:55:57,815 Speaker 3: so pathetically happy that it's it's remarkable anyway, it is 1040 00:55:57,895 --> 00:55:59,975 Speaker 3: bang on seven twenty five, which is when we said 1041 00:56:00,015 --> 00:56:02,095 Speaker 3: we talked to Jay and here is a very good 1042 00:56:02,095 --> 00:56:05,855 Speaker 3: morning to you Jay house things. Well good mate, yeah, 1043 00:56:05,935 --> 00:56:09,015 Speaker 3: very well. Actually, can I say, I know you probably 1044 00:56:09,055 --> 00:56:10,775 Speaker 3: didn't send it to me, but I thank you anyway. 1045 00:56:11,135 --> 00:56:14,375 Speaker 3: I got a lovely little package from Razine with some 1046 00:56:14,975 --> 00:56:17,335 Speaker 3: nibbles and bits and pieces in it for Christmas, and 1047 00:56:17,775 --> 00:56:20,815 Speaker 3: most usefully and probably most excitable for me, a really 1048 00:56:20,935 --> 00:56:24,175 Speaker 3: nice four leader painting that I can use this summer. 1049 00:56:24,455 --> 00:56:26,055 Speaker 4: About it, Yeah. 1050 00:56:25,895 --> 00:56:29,055 Speaker 3: It's an empty painting and it was like, I'll take 1051 00:56:29,095 --> 00:56:31,855 Speaker 3: all that really nice stuff out, but the painting's going 1052 00:56:31,895 --> 00:56:36,695 Speaker 3: to be awesome. So thank you to the team at 1053 00:56:36,735 --> 00:56:37,975 Speaker 3: Razine for that was very nice. 1054 00:56:39,015 --> 00:56:39,175 Speaker 7: Hey. 1055 00:56:39,215 --> 00:56:41,975 Speaker 3: Look, typically, and I mean, if I think back to 1056 00:56:42,055 --> 00:56:46,095 Speaker 3: my childhood, let's say summer, my dad seemed to spend 1057 00:56:46,295 --> 00:56:49,055 Speaker 3: all of summer painting the house. Right, maybe he did 1058 00:56:49,095 --> 00:56:52,535 Speaker 3: a side a year or something like that. He built 1059 00:56:52,575 --> 00:56:56,335 Speaker 3: his own bit of scaffolding and so we used to 1060 00:56:56,455 --> 00:56:58,735 Speaker 3: drag that out, put the planks up, and we'd be 1061 00:56:58,855 --> 00:57:01,855 Speaker 3: out there sanding and prepping and painting the summer. And 1062 00:57:01,935 --> 00:57:07,495 Speaker 3: that's pretty typical for most Kiwi households. I'm also convinced 1063 00:57:07,495 --> 00:57:09,775 Speaker 3: that at that time, sandpaper must have been like two 1064 00:57:09,895 --> 00:57:13,135 Speaker 3: hundred dollars a meter, because there was no way that 1065 00:57:13,335 --> 00:57:15,375 Speaker 3: if I presented him with a piece of sandpaper that 1066 00:57:15,495 --> 00:57:17,215 Speaker 3: still had one bit of grit on it, it would 1067 00:57:17,255 --> 00:57:19,535 Speaker 3: be like no, no, no, you can still keep using. 1068 00:57:19,415 --> 00:57:22,055 Speaker 4: That sometimes, very similar to man. 1069 00:57:24,015 --> 00:57:25,895 Speaker 3: But look, we tend to crack into a bit of 1070 00:57:25,935 --> 00:57:31,455 Speaker 3: outdoor painting first up. Safety is really important, eh, Yes. 1071 00:57:31,375 --> 00:57:34,055 Speaker 4: Safety is always important. A cringe when you said built 1072 00:57:34,055 --> 00:57:34,495 Speaker 4: your own. 1073 00:57:34,375 --> 00:57:39,735 Speaker 3: Scaffold, Hey look pretty robust. To be fair, he didn't 1074 00:57:39,895 --> 00:57:44,535 Speaker 3: build anything shonky. So yeah, it's always have a certificate. 1075 00:57:47,495 --> 00:57:50,095 Speaker 4: Safety is always paramount. Everyone wants to come home safe 1076 00:57:50,095 --> 00:57:52,015 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, especially this time the year. 1077 00:57:52,615 --> 00:57:55,975 Speaker 4: So like, if you're not feeling confident, I'm just looking 1078 00:57:55,975 --> 00:58:00,015 Speaker 4: at my roof. Yeah, yes, don't do it. It's always 1079 00:58:00,055 --> 00:58:02,455 Speaker 4: best to get somebody else in. If you're feeling confident, 1080 00:58:02,535 --> 00:58:04,495 Speaker 4: you're all good. Just make sure you're taking as many 1081 00:58:04,535 --> 00:58:10,335 Speaker 4: precautions as possible. Yeah, absolutely, same with scaffold, same with 1082 00:58:10,895 --> 00:58:15,375 Speaker 4: like ladders as well. Don't reach. Yes, work in a 1083 00:58:15,455 --> 00:58:18,895 Speaker 4: sensible area and it's yeah, it's a bit of a workout, 1084 00:58:18,975 --> 00:58:22,055 Speaker 4: but up and down and move along and finish safely. 1085 00:58:22,495 --> 00:58:25,735 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's right. And the other thing I guess 1086 00:58:25,775 --> 00:58:27,455 Speaker 3: with painting at this time of year is, you know, 1087 00:58:27,535 --> 00:58:29,895 Speaker 3: typically during winter we're always looking for a little patch 1088 00:58:29,975 --> 00:58:33,175 Speaker 3: of sun in order to work. But in summer is 1089 00:58:33,255 --> 00:58:35,895 Speaker 3: the general rule don't paint in direct sunlight. 1090 00:58:36,415 --> 00:58:41,095 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't paint in direct sunlight, kind of follow the 1091 00:58:41,135 --> 00:58:45,655 Speaker 4: sun around the house. Yes, use hot weather additive if 1092 00:58:45,695 --> 00:58:49,695 Speaker 4: you're painting. It will help sort of slow the paint 1093 00:58:49,975 --> 00:58:52,575 Speaker 4: drying time down and just increase the flow of the paint. 1094 00:58:53,735 --> 00:58:56,095 Speaker 4: Makes a massive difference to the finished especially if you've 1095 00:58:56,095 --> 00:58:59,655 Speaker 4: got any gloss in the paint. Yeah. And I mean, 1096 00:58:59,735 --> 00:59:02,375 Speaker 4: like you're saying with your dad doing the painting every year, 1097 00:59:02,815 --> 00:59:06,215 Speaker 4: and if you've got timber windows, it's it's really good 1098 00:59:06,415 --> 00:59:09,855 Speaker 4: to keep on top of those splits and cracks or 1099 00:59:10,135 --> 00:59:13,415 Speaker 4: just sort of sooner you can tidy those up or 1100 00:59:13,535 --> 00:59:16,775 Speaker 4: help the whole paint system last a whole lot longer. 1101 00:59:20,095 --> 00:59:22,335 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in the same boat like most people. Right, 1102 00:59:22,455 --> 00:59:24,775 Speaker 3: So we did a lot of painting about seven eight 1103 00:59:24,855 --> 00:59:27,375 Speaker 3: years ago. It's lasted well, but there's the beginning of 1104 00:59:27,895 --> 00:59:29,735 Speaker 3: you know, some gaps and cracks and that sort of 1105 00:59:29,775 --> 00:59:34,175 Speaker 3: thing coming along. And I'm thinking, now, what type of 1106 00:59:34,255 --> 00:59:36,015 Speaker 3: paint did I use so Again, this comes back to 1107 00:59:36,055 --> 00:59:39,495 Speaker 3: an earlier conversation about record keeping. Ideally in a diary 1108 00:59:39,655 --> 00:59:42,495 Speaker 3: or something like that or online, you keep maybe a 1109 00:59:42,575 --> 00:59:44,815 Speaker 3: photograph of the tin, so that when you go to 1110 00:59:44,895 --> 00:59:47,135 Speaker 3: paint the window, you go, ah, now did I use 1111 00:59:47,295 --> 00:59:49,095 Speaker 3: oil based in them? Or did I use a water 1112 00:59:49,175 --> 00:59:51,415 Speaker 3: born da? Da da da da. You know exactly what 1113 00:59:52,615 --> 00:59:53,455 Speaker 3: keep the records? 1114 00:59:54,295 --> 00:59:57,335 Speaker 4: It's I mean most people nowadays have a smartphone. Ye 1115 00:59:57,455 --> 01:00:00,415 Speaker 4: just take a picture a lot of the time. You 1116 01:00:00,455 --> 01:00:02,535 Speaker 4: can then edit that picture and write on it. So 1117 01:00:02,775 --> 01:00:06,575 Speaker 4: you can do windows, you could do exterior inter Yeah, 1118 01:00:06,895 --> 01:00:10,215 Speaker 4: you can really break it down or or like say, 1119 01:00:10,295 --> 01:00:12,615 Speaker 4: have a diary in a book in write everything down. 1120 01:00:12,855 --> 01:00:15,975 Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely right. Let's up into a couple of takes. 1121 01:00:16,015 --> 01:00:20,295 Speaker 3: This is great in terms of like prepping the house. 1122 01:00:20,335 --> 01:00:23,255 Speaker 3: Someone sticks through and they've they've named a particular product 1123 01:00:23,295 --> 01:00:28,175 Speaker 3: to use. I'll leave that out. But in general, before painting, 1124 01:00:28,295 --> 01:00:29,975 Speaker 3: we need to wash in print. 1125 01:00:31,055 --> 01:00:34,655 Speaker 4: Yep. You know, we always recommend moss and moldle yes, 1126 01:00:35,695 --> 01:00:38,415 Speaker 4: so you really want to kill any spores and any 1127 01:00:38,495 --> 01:00:40,695 Speaker 4: moss and mold that's not made. Don't just sort of 1128 01:00:40,895 --> 01:00:46,255 Speaker 4: paint over it. We then recommend if it's most houses 1129 01:00:46,335 --> 01:00:49,135 Speaker 4: are paint prepping house wash. If it's a deck, it 1130 01:00:49,175 --> 01:00:52,735 Speaker 4: would be timber and deck wash, and that the paint 1131 01:00:52,775 --> 01:00:56,615 Speaker 4: prepping housewash is just really good at removing surface contamination, 1132 01:00:57,095 --> 01:01:00,775 Speaker 4: sort of the old chalky residue from the paint on 1133 01:01:01,015 --> 01:01:04,495 Speaker 4: the side of the building or on a roof. Remember, 1134 01:01:04,615 --> 01:01:08,055 Speaker 4: like when you're repainting the new pint sticking to what's 1135 01:01:08,175 --> 01:01:11,215 Speaker 4: on the surface, and just there's any surface contamination are 1136 01:01:11,255 --> 01:01:13,615 Speaker 4: you sticking to that? It might not be very well 1137 01:01:13,655 --> 01:01:17,455 Speaker 4: adhered to the building or the surface. So that's why 1138 01:01:17,495 --> 01:01:22,055 Speaker 4: you really want to clean it and remove everything light sand, 1139 01:01:22,455 --> 01:01:25,535 Speaker 4: so the new paintin really key in and stick in 1140 01:01:25,695 --> 01:01:28,215 Speaker 4: last at seven eight, ten plus years. 1141 01:01:28,535 --> 01:01:32,775 Speaker 3: Yeah, just in terms of the moss and mold killer 1142 01:01:32,815 --> 01:01:34,615 Speaker 3: that you've got, if you've got lichen on the roof 1143 01:01:34,815 --> 01:01:37,495 Speaker 3: and you spray there the qushion from Chris's how long 1144 01:01:37,655 --> 01:01:40,735 Speaker 3: after spraying it could you sort of scrape that like 1145 01:01:40,815 --> 01:01:42,055 Speaker 3: and off if it's really heavy. 1146 01:01:44,935 --> 01:01:48,935 Speaker 4: I mean, you can make up the directions for mixing 1147 01:01:48,975 --> 01:01:51,375 Speaker 4: all on the side of the container, but you can 1148 01:01:51,455 --> 01:01:55,215 Speaker 4: make a pretty strong solution up spray on. I mean 1149 01:01:55,295 --> 01:01:57,375 Speaker 4: you can spray it on and scrub straight away or 1150 01:01:57,455 --> 01:01:59,935 Speaker 4: some like them. You might take a couple of treatments 1151 01:02:00,015 --> 01:02:02,455 Speaker 4: to actually spray on, leave it a couple of days, 1152 01:02:02,695 --> 01:02:05,855 Speaker 4: give it a scrub, and then spray again. I mean, 1153 01:02:05,895 --> 01:02:08,495 Speaker 4: I've seen some that kind of comes off it fairly 1154 01:02:08,575 --> 01:02:11,255 Speaker 4: quickly if it's pretty new, And I've seen other roofs 1155 01:02:11,295 --> 01:02:13,415 Speaker 4: that look like they were made out of liken and 1156 01:02:13,615 --> 01:02:15,855 Speaker 4: take multiple cleans to kind of remove it. 1157 01:02:15,855 --> 01:02:19,375 Speaker 3: All right, Okay, thank you very much for that. Now 1158 01:02:19,455 --> 01:02:22,215 Speaker 3: this is an interesting one only because the advice I 1159 01:02:22,295 --> 01:02:26,295 Speaker 3: got from Bryce a little while he goes is counter 1160 01:02:26,415 --> 01:02:28,535 Speaker 3: to what I would intuitively do. So I'm interested in 1161 01:02:28,615 --> 01:02:31,375 Speaker 3: this good morning. I've got a new timber fence. Do 1162 01:02:31,535 --> 01:02:33,495 Speaker 3: I paint it or stain it? I want it to 1163 01:02:33,615 --> 01:02:38,975 Speaker 3: be black, Okay, so hard. 1164 01:02:40,735 --> 01:02:44,215 Speaker 4: Difference between paint and stains really personal preference and how 1165 01:02:44,295 --> 01:02:50,055 Speaker 4: it looks right, And then like painting tends to love 1166 01:02:50,175 --> 01:02:53,575 Speaker 4: a little bit longer. So that was saying seven years 1167 01:02:53,775 --> 01:02:58,415 Speaker 4: ten years maximum, I suppose before repainting, whereas staining you're 1168 01:02:58,455 --> 01:03:02,015 Speaker 4: restaining every couple of years. But you've got the sort 1169 01:03:02,055 --> 01:03:04,735 Speaker 4: of grain look in, the more natural look to it. Yes, 1170 01:03:05,855 --> 01:03:07,975 Speaker 4: So I'm in the same boat at the moment. I've 1171 01:03:08,055 --> 01:03:11,255 Speaker 4: got new fencing, and I'm looking at it, going do 1172 01:03:11,335 --> 01:03:13,775 Speaker 4: I paint it or do I stain it? Because I've 1173 01:03:13,815 --> 01:03:18,055 Speaker 4: got other bits of fencing that's painted in my house sustained, 1174 01:03:18,255 --> 01:03:20,215 Speaker 4: So I think the stuff next to the house I'm 1175 01:03:20,215 --> 01:03:22,455 Speaker 4: going to stain, and the stuff next to the already 1176 01:03:22,495 --> 01:03:26,655 Speaker 4: painted black fence, and then the paint, Yeah, would obviously 1177 01:03:26,855 --> 01:03:30,175 Speaker 4: paint it jobs more heat, so you'd like me to 1178 01:03:30,215 --> 01:03:34,335 Speaker 4: get more walping cupping of the boards in potential splits 1179 01:03:34,375 --> 01:03:36,015 Speaker 4: and cracks. So I would always say, if you're going 1180 01:03:36,135 --> 01:03:37,655 Speaker 4: darker colors, use the cool color. 1181 01:03:38,295 --> 01:03:42,815 Speaker 3: Yeah, system, Yeah, okay, brilliant right now, paint Can you 1182 01:03:42,895 --> 01:03:45,735 Speaker 3: ask the paint guy that's you why the deck paint 1183 01:03:45,935 --> 01:03:49,575 Speaker 3: has a mottled appearance after we've put two coats of 1184 01:03:49,655 --> 01:03:53,215 Speaker 3: a light gray paint over a previous coating that was 1185 01:03:53,335 --> 01:03:56,095 Speaker 3: normal in appearance. They just wanted to refresh it by 1186 01:03:56,135 --> 01:03:58,895 Speaker 3: applying two coats over the top. But it's gone mottled. 1187 01:04:00,815 --> 01:04:04,375 Speaker 4: So they were paint in the deck deck was already. 1188 01:04:04,215 --> 01:04:06,895 Speaker 3: The deck was already painted, I presume, and so to 1189 01:04:07,055 --> 01:04:10,055 Speaker 3: frish it up, they've put two new coats of light 1190 01:04:10,215 --> 01:04:13,375 Speaker 3: gray over the previous coating. So let's assume that it's 1191 01:04:13,455 --> 01:04:16,775 Speaker 3: paint on paint and the top coat is modeled. 1192 01:04:19,495 --> 01:04:19,535 Speaker 13: It. 1193 01:04:20,375 --> 01:04:23,615 Speaker 4: God, there's this number of things. It's one could be 1194 01:04:24,015 --> 01:04:28,295 Speaker 4: how they prepped it. Two could be depending on when 1195 01:04:28,335 --> 01:04:32,975 Speaker 4: they finished and the weather. Yes, if they've finished a 1196 01:04:33,015 --> 01:04:34,895 Speaker 4: bit later in the day and it's been hit by 1197 01:04:35,015 --> 01:04:37,335 Speaker 4: jew or I had it a couple of years ago 1198 01:04:37,375 --> 01:04:40,935 Speaker 4: when I stained my deck. Forecasts looked good looking out 1199 01:04:40,975 --> 01:04:44,495 Speaker 4: the window looked good. Stained it, and within an hour 1200 01:04:44,575 --> 01:04:47,015 Speaker 4: of finishing it rained and I ended up with a 1201 01:04:47,215 --> 01:04:52,055 Speaker 4: modeled appearance through the stain. So it could be that. 1202 01:04:52,335 --> 01:04:56,375 Speaker 4: If not and none of those, maybe take some pictures 1203 01:04:56,775 --> 01:04:59,575 Speaker 4: in poppingcher locals in color shop and see what they 1204 01:04:59,695 --> 01:05:04,135 Speaker 4: say I mean. It could also be not stirring the paint. 1205 01:05:04,295 --> 01:05:07,535 Speaker 4: If it's been sat for a bit. You might have 1206 01:05:07,655 --> 01:05:10,775 Speaker 4: some tints that have here that sit differently. That's where 1207 01:05:10,815 --> 01:05:13,095 Speaker 4: we keep and stir the paint whilst you're using it, 1208 01:05:13,295 --> 01:05:18,055 Speaker 4: just so your colors stays consistent through it. Yeah, it 1209 01:05:18,135 --> 01:05:19,015 Speaker 4: could be a couple of things. 1210 01:05:19,735 --> 01:05:24,055 Speaker 3: Excellent. Okay, here's a slightly unusual one. Someone is making 1211 01:05:24,215 --> 01:05:29,375 Speaker 3: some food chopping boards out of remove what's a suitable 1212 01:05:29,455 --> 01:05:34,535 Speaker 3: oil for that out of your wheelhouse? Isn't that. 1213 01:05:34,615 --> 01:05:41,215 Speaker 4: Sorry, Yes, I'm not sure what we've got that you 1214 01:05:41,255 --> 01:05:46,575 Speaker 4: could use for that. Again, maybe I'm not too sure. 1215 01:05:46,655 --> 01:05:48,855 Speaker 4: Maybe you could jump on the razime website and do 1216 01:05:49,095 --> 01:05:52,495 Speaker 4: ask an expert or check with the people where you 1217 01:05:52,615 --> 01:05:57,055 Speaker 4: got the remove. I bought microcarpa before from Cypress Sawmill, 1218 01:05:57,415 --> 01:06:00,615 Speaker 4: and they've got plenty of options in the place like 1219 01:06:00,695 --> 01:06:02,735 Speaker 4: that that sells them to look. 1220 01:06:02,735 --> 01:06:08,055 Speaker 3: Yeah, perfect good thinking. I've just used olive oil sometimes 1221 01:06:08,415 --> 01:06:12,375 Speaker 3: because yeah, chance that's in your kitchen anyway. Right, painting 1222 01:06:12,455 --> 01:06:18,575 Speaker 3: are retaining or made of telephone poles, I mean something 1223 01:06:18,655 --> 01:06:21,495 Speaker 3: like telephone poles. Typically it's a hardwood, right, So trying 1224 01:06:21,575 --> 01:06:24,735 Speaker 3: to paint onto hardwood would be a bit of a challenge. 1225 01:06:25,375 --> 01:06:29,495 Speaker 4: I think it's also if what have they been coated in? 1226 01:06:30,455 --> 01:06:34,935 Speaker 4: Ah anything. I've got some old railway sleepers that I got, 1227 01:06:35,055 --> 01:06:39,575 Speaker 4: but there it's absolutely soaked in career, so it's there's 1228 01:06:39,655 --> 01:06:44,935 Speaker 4: not much you can really overcope them with. So I 1229 01:06:45,015 --> 01:06:47,735 Speaker 4: mean you'd be best to try a test area really 1230 01:06:47,815 --> 01:06:49,455 Speaker 4: on them to see if something's going to work in 1231 01:06:49,535 --> 01:06:54,255 Speaker 4: it here, but I'd probably go witheing wood primer, followed 1232 01:06:54,375 --> 01:06:57,415 Speaker 4: by I mean you could try a test spot, which 1233 01:06:57,495 --> 01:07:00,215 Speaker 4: is usually um lumbersider and just see how it goes 1234 01:07:00,375 --> 01:07:02,695 Speaker 4: before attempting to do everything right. 1235 01:07:02,935 --> 01:07:07,655 Speaker 3: Perfect morning, Pete and Jay, I have a new bathroom 1236 01:07:07,695 --> 01:07:10,735 Speaker 3: with a shower. Can I use the shower before the 1237 01:07:10,815 --> 01:07:14,135 Speaker 3: bathroom gets painted and then get it painted in the 1238 01:07:14,295 --> 01:07:19,615 Speaker 3: new year. So let's assume that the bathroom's being rebuilt. 1239 01:07:19,895 --> 01:07:25,615 Speaker 3: There's exposed plasterboard, yep, and they need to use the shower. 1240 01:07:25,735 --> 01:07:29,655 Speaker 4: Now, I would at least try and get a coat 1241 01:07:29,695 --> 01:07:32,455 Speaker 4: of shore seal and all the plaster board. Right, zine 1242 01:07:32,495 --> 01:07:35,975 Speaker 4: color shops are sort of open apart from the stat day, 1243 01:07:36,095 --> 01:07:38,055 Speaker 4: so you could just jump into one of those, grab 1244 01:07:38,135 --> 01:07:42,015 Speaker 4: a small port of shore seal. The Soltnborn Shaw seals 1245 01:07:42,095 --> 01:07:44,615 Speaker 4: what I'd recommend, although I think you can use the 1246 01:07:44,815 --> 01:07:49,055 Speaker 4: water borne as well, and at least get the sort 1247 01:07:49,095 --> 01:07:53,415 Speaker 4: of jib board or sealed up field just the subject 1248 01:07:53,495 --> 01:07:56,095 Speaker 4: dear thing you want to get in moisture in any 1249 01:07:56,175 --> 01:07:59,695 Speaker 4: issues in the jib before you seal it, because then 1250 01:07:59,735 --> 01:08:01,455 Speaker 4: you're going to end up sealing any of that in 1251 01:08:02,815 --> 01:08:03,335 Speaker 4: down the line. 1252 01:08:03,695 --> 01:08:06,295 Speaker 3: Because the challenge would be, let's say, use the shower 1253 01:08:06,495 --> 01:08:08,975 Speaker 3: or the bathroom for a period of time and you know, 1254 01:08:09,415 --> 01:08:11,975 Speaker 3: like you say, moisture will be absorbed into the surface 1255 01:08:12,055 --> 01:08:14,895 Speaker 3: of the substrate into the plaster board. Then if you 1256 01:08:15,015 --> 01:08:17,895 Speaker 3: go and coat it and you seal that in, you know, 1257 01:08:18,015 --> 01:08:21,735 Speaker 3: are you creating a problem for later on? Or just 1258 01:08:21,815 --> 01:08:22,935 Speaker 3: get a coat of sealer. 1259 01:08:22,735 --> 01:08:25,535 Speaker 4: On it now, I think that would be the best thing. 1260 01:08:26,695 --> 01:08:28,415 Speaker 4: It wouldn't take too long, just to coat it all 1261 01:08:28,535 --> 01:08:33,175 Speaker 4: up in shr cell and then then then you could 1262 01:08:33,295 --> 01:08:37,335 Speaker 4: use it give it a clean down before painting in 1263 01:08:37,375 --> 01:08:37,855 Speaker 4: the new year. 1264 01:08:38,215 --> 01:08:41,855 Speaker 3: Yeah. Perfect. Now this is one that be fairly common 1265 01:08:41,935 --> 01:08:43,655 Speaker 3: to a lot of people. So in this instance it's 1266 01:08:43,775 --> 01:08:47,135 Speaker 3: linear weatherboard, so a five or cement board that's been coated. 1267 01:08:47,495 --> 01:08:50,575 Speaker 3: The boards are an extremely good condition. The existing paint 1268 01:08:50,735 --> 01:08:53,535 Speaker 3: is also in very good condition, no flaking or chalking. 1269 01:08:53,895 --> 01:08:57,535 Speaker 3: It was last painted fifteen years ago. That's impressive. My 1270 01:08:57,695 --> 01:09:00,175 Speaker 3: question is do I need to sand the weatherboards or 1271 01:09:00,255 --> 01:09:03,655 Speaker 3: can I just apply two new top coats. I'm using 1272 01:09:03,735 --> 01:09:06,095 Speaker 3: the same paint in the same color, which happens to 1273 01:09:06,135 --> 01:09:07,415 Speaker 3: be semi gloss from David. 1274 01:09:09,375 --> 01:09:12,375 Speaker 4: I would still obviously clean down we talked about earlier. 1275 01:09:13,935 --> 01:09:16,215 Speaker 4: But if it's semigloss, or if you've got any gloss 1276 01:09:16,215 --> 01:09:18,775 Speaker 4: when you're repainting, it's always good to give a light 1277 01:09:18,895 --> 01:09:22,135 Speaker 4: sand just to be gloss. Yes it was water based previously, 1278 01:09:22,255 --> 01:09:24,895 Speaker 4: it will just be a light sand and then yes, 1279 01:09:24,975 --> 01:09:28,135 Speaker 4: you can go over with the same paint. If again, 1280 01:09:28,175 --> 01:09:30,615 Speaker 4: if you're painting this time of years, think about there 1281 01:09:30,695 --> 01:09:33,455 Speaker 4: was in hot weather additive because it'll just help the 1282 01:09:33,495 --> 01:09:36,415 Speaker 4: flow and help keep that web edge. Especially when you're 1283 01:09:36,415 --> 01:09:40,495 Speaker 4: painting with any sort of gloss, any stop start marks 1284 01:09:40,535 --> 01:09:44,095 Speaker 4: become very apparent. So anything that can help, like the 1285 01:09:44,135 --> 01:09:46,575 Speaker 4: hot weather additive, will go a long way to make 1286 01:09:46,615 --> 01:09:48,975 Speaker 4: the overall appearance look really good once you finished. 1287 01:09:49,215 --> 01:09:51,855 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you what. Just if you're painting with 1288 01:09:51,975 --> 01:09:53,975 Speaker 3: the boards on the exterior of a house, and let's 1289 01:09:53,975 --> 01:09:56,495 Speaker 3: say the house is eight meters long, right, and normally 1290 01:09:56,575 --> 01:09:58,895 Speaker 3: these windows and but some pieces that intersect it. But 1291 01:09:58,935 --> 01:10:02,455 Speaker 3: there will always be those boards that run continuously from 1292 01:10:02,495 --> 01:10:04,615 Speaker 3: one end of the house to the other. So do 1293 01:10:04,695 --> 01:10:08,135 Speaker 3: you try and keep working on one board from one 1294 01:10:08,255 --> 01:10:08,615 Speaker 3: side to. 1295 01:10:08,655 --> 01:10:13,255 Speaker 4: The other, or do you you know, like we say 1296 01:10:13,295 --> 01:10:15,335 Speaker 4: when we're staining, like just stick to a couple of 1297 01:10:15,455 --> 01:10:18,655 Speaker 4: boards at the time, right, and just work along the 1298 01:10:18,695 --> 01:10:21,775 Speaker 4: whole length. Yeah, Like you say, with windows, you're going 1299 01:10:21,855 --> 01:10:24,415 Speaker 4: to have bits where you can do multiple boards in 1300 01:10:24,455 --> 01:10:27,655 Speaker 4: a very short short space. Yep, But you're going to 1301 01:10:27,735 --> 01:10:29,775 Speaker 4: have boards, so it's going to run that pretty much 1302 01:10:29,855 --> 01:10:34,055 Speaker 4: full full length. Obviously you're going to have joined the 1303 01:10:34,575 --> 01:10:39,895 Speaker 4: natural stop start points, So I just work to sort 1304 01:10:39,935 --> 01:10:42,415 Speaker 4: of a place where you can stop and it's not 1305 01:10:42,495 --> 01:10:45,455 Speaker 4: going to be apparent if you just brush sort of 1306 01:10:45,535 --> 01:10:48,095 Speaker 4: thirty centimeter sections in front of you and then move on. 1307 01:10:48,935 --> 01:10:52,175 Speaker 4: All those stop start marks will be really apparent when 1308 01:10:52,175 --> 01:10:56,055 Speaker 4: you finished, and it's going to look not great. So 1309 01:10:56,295 --> 01:10:58,175 Speaker 4: is the only whole. 1310 01:10:57,695 --> 01:11:01,095 Speaker 3: Length to avoid those stop start marks literally going from 1311 01:11:01,135 --> 01:11:04,415 Speaker 3: one end of the board to the other, or working. 1312 01:11:04,295 --> 01:11:07,535 Speaker 4: Very quickly and using some and like hot weather orlatives 1313 01:11:07,575 --> 01:11:10,135 Speaker 4: to help keep the wet edge and slow down the 1314 01:11:10,215 --> 01:11:12,815 Speaker 4: dry time. Yeah, Obviously this time of the year, the 1315 01:11:13,015 --> 01:11:15,935 Speaker 4: surface is hot and the air temperature is hot, and 1316 01:11:16,615 --> 01:11:18,735 Speaker 4: to theay it doesn't seem like there's much air movement, 1317 01:11:18,975 --> 01:11:20,735 Speaker 4: so everything's going to drive pretty quickly. 1318 01:11:20,935 --> 01:11:29,335 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, No, it's always you know, because typically you're 1319 01:11:29,335 --> 01:11:32,535 Speaker 3: thinking like often if we're working off mobile scaffold, for example, 1320 01:11:32,655 --> 01:11:35,095 Speaker 3: we might have two and a half or three meters 1321 01:11:35,375 --> 01:11:38,375 Speaker 3: of working platform and then we'll move that to the 1322 01:11:38,455 --> 01:11:41,255 Speaker 3: next area. So in that time, you know, if you've 1323 01:11:41,295 --> 01:11:43,895 Speaker 3: got those boards that run above the window below the windows. 1324 01:11:43,935 --> 01:11:47,375 Speaker 3: In some cases you're going to come down, you're going 1325 01:11:47,415 --> 01:11:49,295 Speaker 3: to re establish the scaffold, and you're going to go 1326 01:11:49,375 --> 01:11:51,815 Speaker 3: back up. So you're going to have that cold joining, 1327 01:11:51,895 --> 01:11:52,215 Speaker 3: aren't you. 1328 01:11:54,295 --> 01:12:01,175 Speaker 4: Potentially it's on summerreas it's ideal to have more than 1329 01:12:01,215 --> 01:12:06,415 Speaker 4: one person working. Sometimes that can't isn't the case, and 1330 01:12:07,055 --> 01:12:09,055 Speaker 4: you've just got to kind of plan around it and 1331 01:12:09,255 --> 01:12:11,975 Speaker 4: try and stick to those areas and move as quickly 1332 01:12:11,975 --> 01:12:17,175 Speaker 4: as you can to stop that MRK being really apparent. 1333 01:12:18,335 --> 01:12:22,215 Speaker 4: Sometimes it kind of is what it is, but kind 1334 01:12:22,255 --> 01:12:24,415 Speaker 4: of look at the job you're about to do and 1335 01:12:24,935 --> 01:12:27,455 Speaker 4: plan it, think what you can reach and see if 1336 01:12:27,495 --> 01:12:31,095 Speaker 4: there's a way around, sort of just stopping in the 1337 01:12:31,135 --> 01:12:34,615 Speaker 4: middle of the wall and then starting again perfect. Sometimes 1338 01:12:34,655 --> 01:12:37,535 Speaker 4: there will be brilliant brilliant. 1339 01:12:37,215 --> 01:12:40,735 Speaker 3: Hey, look, as always, I really appreciate your expertise and 1340 01:12:41,335 --> 01:12:44,175 Speaker 3: I love to throw out the occasional clearly question that 1341 01:12:44,735 --> 01:12:48,095 Speaker 3: it's always bettered back so to you and yours are 1342 01:12:48,295 --> 01:12:52,095 Speaker 3: very merry Christmas again, thanks for your advice and looking 1343 01:12:52,135 --> 01:12:53,615 Speaker 3: forward to working with you again next year. 1344 01:12:54,775 --> 01:12:55,775 Speaker 4: Have a great Christmas and you. 1345 01:12:55,815 --> 01:13:00,375 Speaker 3: Too, take care all very big and Jay and Bryce 1346 01:13:00,455 --> 01:13:02,935 Speaker 3: will both be back with us as the expert and 1347 01:13:03,015 --> 01:13:07,695 Speaker 3: their expert segments in twenty twenty five. Righty oh, we'll 1348 01:13:07,735 --> 01:13:09,695 Speaker 3: take a short break. We're back to your call. So 1349 01:13:09,695 --> 01:13:12,375 Speaker 3: if you've got a question of a building nature, eight 1350 01:13:12,495 --> 01:13:14,735 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 1351 01:13:14,815 --> 01:13:17,055 Speaker 3: It is seven forty two here at News Talks. He'd 1352 01:13:17,095 --> 01:13:20,055 Speaker 3: be taking your calls on all things building in construction. 1353 01:13:20,255 --> 01:13:22,775 Speaker 3: Jay from Razine was with us just a moment ago, 1354 01:13:23,655 --> 01:13:26,455 Speaker 3: and so the opening comment was around, if we are 1355 01:13:26,615 --> 01:13:29,175 Speaker 3: going to be doing jobs around the house, particularly painting, 1356 01:13:30,015 --> 01:13:33,735 Speaker 3: which often involves working at heights, safety has got to 1357 01:13:33,775 --> 01:13:37,095 Speaker 3: be paramount. I bumped into a guy yesterday that I 1358 01:13:37,175 --> 01:13:39,935 Speaker 3: did some business with a few years ago, and a 1359 01:13:40,015 --> 01:13:44,975 Speaker 3: painter that worked with them. We were chatting and he said, oh, 1360 01:13:44,975 --> 01:13:47,935 Speaker 3: and then such and such died And I want to 1361 01:13:47,975 --> 01:13:51,135 Speaker 3: be a little bit cautious around sort of too much detail. 1362 01:13:52,655 --> 01:13:58,655 Speaker 3: Died at work, died after falling from heights. So you 1363 01:13:58,735 --> 01:14:01,375 Speaker 3: know when we talk about being cautious, and I know 1364 01:14:01,535 --> 01:14:04,935 Speaker 3: that often there's so much conversation about health and safety 1365 01:14:04,975 --> 01:14:10,055 Speaker 3: that people can become dismissive of it. But it's incidents 1366 01:14:10,175 --> 01:14:12,855 Speaker 3: like that where you go, actually you know what a 1367 01:14:13,015 --> 01:14:17,975 Speaker 3: moment's in attention in this case caused a loss of life. 1368 01:14:18,095 --> 01:14:21,135 Speaker 3: So you know, when we're saying be careful, there's a 1369 01:14:21,215 --> 01:14:23,735 Speaker 3: reason that I'm saying be careful. Oh eight one hundred 1370 01:14:23,855 --> 01:14:26,135 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you've 1371 01:14:26,255 --> 01:14:30,015 Speaker 3: got a question about building. We can talk about that. 1372 01:14:30,255 --> 01:14:32,735 Speaker 3: And I just in the back of my mind and 1373 01:14:32,855 --> 01:14:37,295 Speaker 3: someone texts through before I mentioned last week about sort 1374 01:14:37,335 --> 01:14:39,935 Speaker 3: of I mean, what do you buy people have got everything? 1375 01:14:39,975 --> 01:14:43,375 Speaker 3: Typically you buy them tools, right or if someone's got 1376 01:14:43,415 --> 01:14:46,175 Speaker 3: lots of tools, chances they don't have everything. And if 1377 01:14:46,495 --> 01:14:49,775 Speaker 3: what's that one thing that they might not have? And 1378 01:14:49,855 --> 01:14:52,415 Speaker 3: I mentioned the Good Rules, which is a New Zealand 1379 01:14:52,495 --> 01:14:57,135 Speaker 3: designed folding ruler, and it's particularly good for working in 1380 01:14:57,175 --> 01:14:59,455 Speaker 3: New Zealand because it's it's set up that it's forty 1381 01:14:59,495 --> 01:15:01,775 Speaker 3: five mil so on and so forth, in the way 1382 01:15:01,815 --> 01:15:03,575 Speaker 3: that it's got a divide or on it all sorts 1383 01:15:03,575 --> 01:15:06,535 Speaker 3: of things. It's pretty nifty. And then I was thinking 1384 01:15:06,575 --> 01:15:10,455 Speaker 3: about we were talking about buying skins. So for years 1385 01:15:10,495 --> 01:15:12,615 Speaker 3: and years and years if you bought cordless tools, and 1386 01:15:12,695 --> 01:15:15,535 Speaker 3: the range of cordless products was quite limited years ago. 1387 01:15:16,295 --> 01:15:20,615 Speaker 3: It's now extensive so you can buy just the skin. 1388 01:15:21,095 --> 01:15:23,415 Speaker 3: You don't have to buy the battery and the charger. 1389 01:15:23,455 --> 01:15:25,855 Speaker 3: If you've got enough batteries and you probably only need 1390 01:15:25,895 --> 01:15:28,855 Speaker 3: two or three charges at most, then you don't need 1391 01:15:28,935 --> 01:15:31,255 Speaker 3: to keep buying charges. So you just buy the skin, 1392 01:15:31,335 --> 01:15:34,455 Speaker 3: which is the bear tool without the battery and without 1393 01:15:34,535 --> 01:15:38,935 Speaker 3: the charger, and that makes it certainly more affordable, extending 1394 01:15:39,015 --> 01:15:41,695 Speaker 3: the range of tools that you've got for the cordless 1395 01:15:41,735 --> 01:15:44,375 Speaker 3: gear that you've got all your batteries. So I was 1396 01:15:44,375 --> 01:15:47,215 Speaker 3: thinking about that and wandering along looking at some of 1397 01:15:47,215 --> 01:15:51,335 Speaker 3: the Ryobi gear where they've got little bluetooth speakers or 1398 01:15:51,415 --> 01:15:55,175 Speaker 3: a fan that you can clamp, or like a little 1399 01:15:55,815 --> 01:15:59,495 Speaker 3: engraving tool or a blower like I was using yesterday. 1400 01:15:59,895 --> 01:16:03,215 Speaker 3: So I cleaned up a piece of furniture, saturated it, 1401 01:16:03,855 --> 01:16:06,175 Speaker 3: which isn't good for furniture typically, but I need it 1402 01:16:06,575 --> 01:16:09,655 Speaker 3: to wash it down thoroughly, and then rather than just 1403 01:16:09,735 --> 01:16:12,215 Speaker 3: let it dry, I just got the Rhovii blower out 1404 01:16:12,655 --> 01:16:16,015 Speaker 3: and stood outside for five minutes and just blue all 1405 01:16:16,055 --> 01:16:17,855 Speaker 3: of the moisture off it to make sure that it 1406 01:16:17,975 --> 01:16:20,855 Speaker 3: was nice and dry again. Those sorts of things, and 1407 01:16:20,935 --> 01:16:22,935 Speaker 3: then the other thing that here you go. Here's My 1408 01:16:23,055 --> 01:16:27,855 Speaker 3: last tip for tools or little things is bit holders. Again, 1409 01:16:27,895 --> 01:16:30,535 Speaker 3: I've kind of always been a bit dismissive about them 1410 01:16:30,735 --> 01:16:33,615 Speaker 3: and wondered about their usefulness. But if you're fossicking around 1411 01:16:33,655 --> 01:16:35,935 Speaker 3: in your apron or around the workshop looking for that 1412 01:16:37,015 --> 01:16:38,655 Speaker 3: you want to swap from a square drive to a 1413 01:16:38,695 --> 01:16:42,055 Speaker 3: possi drive, to a hex or to an impact driver 1414 01:16:42,215 --> 01:16:44,615 Speaker 3: bit or something like that, then you just have a 1415 01:16:44,655 --> 01:16:48,895 Speaker 3: little carabina with a number of holders on them, and 1416 01:16:49,015 --> 01:16:52,335 Speaker 3: you've got your most popular ones on a carabiner attached 1417 01:16:52,375 --> 01:16:54,775 Speaker 3: to your apron or to your belt buckle or something 1418 01:16:54,855 --> 01:16:57,415 Speaker 3: like that, and they're all there. So bit hoolders are 1419 01:16:57,495 --> 01:17:02,255 Speaker 3: another useful little stocking stuffer as well. We will take actually, 1420 01:17:02,375 --> 01:17:05,135 Speaker 3: just on the food grade. You know, we were talking 1421 01:17:05,135 --> 01:17:07,575 Speaker 3: about the remove chopping board. A couple of people have 1422 01:17:07,695 --> 01:17:12,095 Speaker 3: made some really good suggestions. Someone who makes wooden egg 1423 01:17:12,415 --> 01:17:18,335 Speaker 3: rings they use food gray tongue oil, so that's tung oil. 1424 01:17:18,615 --> 01:17:22,255 Speaker 3: Or they recommend walnut oil. Haven't heard of that walnut oil. 1425 01:17:22,335 --> 01:17:27,815 Speaker 3: But follow the complete application. Food grade mineral oil, which 1426 01:17:27,855 --> 01:17:30,615 Speaker 3: is like liquid parafferm, is what you need to seal 1427 01:17:30,695 --> 01:17:33,855 Speaker 3: chopping boards. Cooking oils can go ranse it. Thank you 1428 01:17:33,975 --> 01:17:37,255 Speaker 3: very much for that. That's good info. We're back after 1429 01:17:37,295 --> 01:17:38,935 Speaker 3: the break with Gavin. If you'd like to join us, 1430 01:17:38,975 --> 01:17:41,175 Speaker 3: the lines are open the number eight hundred eighty ten 1431 01:17:41,255 --> 01:17:43,255 Speaker 3: eighty You and News Talks, it'd be the lines are 1432 01:17:43,255 --> 01:17:45,855 Speaker 3: open the number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty 1433 01:17:46,015 --> 01:17:47,575 Speaker 3: Gaven a very good morning. 1434 01:17:48,855 --> 01:17:53,975 Speaker 14: Good morning to you, Good morning Christmas into you. I've 1435 01:17:54,095 --> 01:17:58,735 Speaker 14: just bought a nineteen nineties house in the last year. 1436 01:18:00,455 --> 01:18:04,815 Speaker 14: It's three stories high, and it's a two story house 1437 01:18:04,895 --> 01:18:05,535 Speaker 14: on top of a. 1438 01:18:07,575 --> 01:18:08,055 Speaker 11: What do you call it? 1439 01:18:08,135 --> 01:18:11,015 Speaker 14: A tandem garage on a sloping hill. 1440 01:18:11,255 --> 01:18:14,775 Speaker 3: Yes, and there's a there's a wall in. 1441 01:18:14,815 --> 01:18:18,535 Speaker 14: The middle floor that I was thinking of removing. Yes, 1442 01:18:19,135 --> 01:18:23,175 Speaker 14: that seems to be not mode bearing, but I was 1443 01:18:23,175 --> 01:18:26,535 Speaker 14: a bit nervous about removing it because of being the 1444 01:18:26,615 --> 01:18:32,735 Speaker 14: middle floor, whether bracing comes into play or anything like that, 1445 01:18:33,535 --> 01:18:35,175 Speaker 14: and I wanted to do the job myself. 1446 01:18:35,815 --> 01:18:43,855 Speaker 3: So okay, okay. So there's there's little little explosions and 1447 01:18:43,935 --> 01:18:49,295 Speaker 3: red flags going off in my head right now. Probably 1448 01:18:49,375 --> 01:18:51,295 Speaker 3: the best thing about the situation is that if it's 1449 01:18:51,295 --> 01:18:55,575 Speaker 3: a nineteen nineties build, council will have a record of 1450 01:18:55,655 --> 01:18:58,135 Speaker 3: the plans, right, so I would I would go to 1451 01:18:58,255 --> 01:18:59,815 Speaker 3: council in the first instance, and. 1452 01:19:00,455 --> 01:19:04,455 Speaker 14: I've seen those. Okay, it's a it's a wall that 1453 01:19:04,815 --> 01:19:07,135 Speaker 14: hasn't had any additional racing put on it. 1454 01:19:07,535 --> 01:19:07,735 Speaker 4: Yep. 1455 01:19:09,055 --> 01:19:13,215 Speaker 14: That's because it's quite a it's about two three meters long. 1456 01:19:14,935 --> 01:19:18,095 Speaker 14: There is a really large wall going in the same 1457 01:19:18,135 --> 01:19:19,575 Speaker 14: direction down the other end of the. 1458 01:19:21,575 --> 01:19:22,135 Speaker 6: So but. 1459 01:19:24,055 --> 01:19:27,855 Speaker 14: It's quite an unusual as Actually this wall is basically 1460 01:19:28,255 --> 01:19:32,535 Speaker 14: dividing the kitchen from the dining room and goes all 1461 01:19:32,575 --> 01:19:34,375 Speaker 14: the way up to the ceiling. There's not actually a 1462 01:19:34,495 --> 01:19:38,615 Speaker 14: door in it's just like a gap yep, from floored ceiling. 1463 01:19:39,255 --> 01:19:41,055 Speaker 14: And I ripped out the carpet when I moved in, 1464 01:19:41,175 --> 01:19:42,855 Speaker 14: and I can see that all the floor joists are 1465 01:19:42,895 --> 01:19:45,055 Speaker 14: going in the same direction as this wall. So I'm 1466 01:19:45,095 --> 01:19:48,415 Speaker 14: assuming it's not load bearing, and I'm so. 1467 01:19:48,495 --> 01:19:50,935 Speaker 3: That the direction of the floor joist is parallel to 1468 01:19:51,055 --> 01:19:53,055 Speaker 3: the wall. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay. 1469 01:19:54,095 --> 01:19:58,095 Speaker 14: So then because there's no additional bracing on it, does 1470 01:19:58,175 --> 01:20:01,295 Speaker 14: that mean that it is doing some bracing but it 1471 01:20:01,375 --> 01:20:04,415 Speaker 14: doesn't need any additional or or does it mean I 1472 01:20:04,455 --> 01:20:07,855 Speaker 14: can just it doesn't It isn't required for embracing, and 1473 01:20:07,935 --> 01:20:10,215 Speaker 14: therefore I could take it out. So I'm just not 1474 01:20:10,375 --> 01:20:12,495 Speaker 14: sure about the whole brace look scenario. 1475 01:20:12,815 --> 01:20:15,415 Speaker 3: I think in this instance here, if it's not on 1476 01:20:15,535 --> 01:20:18,095 Speaker 3: the plans, if it's not specified, even if it you know, 1477 01:20:18,255 --> 01:20:23,255 Speaker 3: like the most the the lowest form of bracing, and 1478 01:20:23,295 --> 01:20:25,415 Speaker 3: I don't mean that in the pejorative sense, the least 1479 01:20:25,415 --> 01:20:27,695 Speaker 3: amount of bracing in it. So we get from what 1480 01:20:27,815 --> 01:20:30,335 Speaker 3: we call a GS one, so just a jib standard. 1481 01:20:30,495 --> 01:20:33,495 Speaker 3: It's got standard jib on one side and it's fixed off. 1482 01:20:33,975 --> 01:20:37,215 Speaker 3: So let's say it's not even a GS one, then 1483 01:20:37,455 --> 01:20:40,335 Speaker 3: it is likely that it's not load it's not bracing. 1484 01:20:40,495 --> 01:20:42,815 Speaker 3: But there's two things. One is bracing, the other is 1485 01:20:42,975 --> 01:20:45,255 Speaker 3: load bearing. Now I'm going to crash into the news. 1486 01:20:45,375 --> 01:20:47,855 Speaker 3: Can you wait and we'll pack this up straight after 1487 01:20:47,935 --> 01:20:51,975 Speaker 3: the break because we've got news at eight o'clock rightio, 1488 01:20:52,095 --> 01:20:54,175 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show. Pete wolf Camp's my name. 1489 01:20:54,575 --> 01:20:57,615 Speaker 3: This is the resident builder. On Sunday at around eight thirty, 1490 01:20:57,695 --> 01:20:59,895 Speaker 3: we change gears, jump into the garden with red climb 1491 01:20:59,975 --> 01:21:03,615 Speaker 3: passed from eight thirty. But right now we're talking building. 1492 01:21:03,735 --> 01:21:06,095 Speaker 3: Just before the break before the news, Sport and Weather, 1493 01:21:06,535 --> 01:21:09,415 Speaker 3: we're talking to Gavin about potentially taking a wall out 1494 01:21:09,495 --> 01:21:12,095 Speaker 3: and to be really really honest, as soon as people 1495 01:21:12,135 --> 01:21:14,695 Speaker 3: start talking about taking walls out, you know the little 1496 01:21:14,935 --> 01:21:18,615 Speaker 3: explosions that the red flags go off. So Gavin, just quickly, 1497 01:21:18,935 --> 01:21:22,015 Speaker 3: you've obviously got the plans. It shows that the wall 1498 01:21:22,135 --> 01:21:24,975 Speaker 3: is not a bracing wall. So if you look at 1499 01:21:25,015 --> 01:21:28,175 Speaker 3: the bracing plan on a mid nineties set of drawings, 1500 01:21:28,615 --> 01:21:31,295 Speaker 3: it'll it'll say whether it's a GS or a BLH 1501 01:21:31,495 --> 01:21:33,815 Speaker 3: or whatever it's going to be. So that's not on there. 1502 01:21:35,295 --> 01:21:38,415 Speaker 3: The joists that the wall sits on run parallel to it, 1503 01:21:39,535 --> 01:21:41,975 Speaker 3: they're probably have less concerned than the ones that sit 1504 01:21:42,135 --> 01:21:46,255 Speaker 3: on top of it. So you'd also want to look 1505 01:21:46,295 --> 01:21:49,095 Speaker 3: at the drawings and go, okay, the floor above, do 1506 01:21:49,295 --> 01:21:51,975 Speaker 3: the joyst bear on that wall, in which case it 1507 01:21:52,095 --> 01:21:55,495 Speaker 3: is load bearing because it might be where the Joys's intersect, 1508 01:21:55,575 --> 01:21:58,215 Speaker 3: for example, and that wall is there to provide support. 1509 01:22:01,015 --> 01:22:04,015 Speaker 14: You should be to the end of it's parallel to 1510 01:22:04,135 --> 01:22:08,575 Speaker 14: the end of the stair internal staircase which runs up 1511 01:22:09,455 --> 01:22:12,375 Speaker 14: up the middle. I mean it's flush with the end 1512 01:22:12,455 --> 01:22:15,295 Speaker 14: of the staircase which runs up the middle of the 1513 01:22:15,455 --> 01:22:18,815 Speaker 14: house and seems to be the main the staircase seems 1514 01:22:18,855 --> 01:22:23,175 Speaker 14: to me the main central structural support for the entire house. 1515 01:22:23,655 --> 01:22:25,735 Speaker 3: And that's the wall that you're thinking about taking out. 1516 01:22:26,775 --> 01:22:30,855 Speaker 14: It's it's it's at a right angle to the staircase. 1517 01:22:31,575 --> 01:22:33,495 Speaker 14: There's a gap between the staircase and the. 1518 01:22:33,535 --> 01:22:39,015 Speaker 3: Wall that's hard to I think the most simple response 1519 01:22:39,095 --> 01:22:41,255 Speaker 3: to this is, I think you need to go and 1520 01:22:41,695 --> 01:22:45,375 Speaker 3: go find a designer, an architectural designer, architect who could 1521 01:22:45,415 --> 01:22:49,175 Speaker 3: assess the plans and tell you whether it's critical and 1522 01:22:49,335 --> 01:22:51,775 Speaker 3: how to safely deal with it the other and then 1523 01:22:51,895 --> 01:22:56,375 Speaker 3: I would get some documentation from someone who says, yep, 1524 01:22:56,455 --> 01:22:59,935 Speaker 3: I've assessed the plans and I have determined that it's 1525 01:23:00,135 --> 01:23:04,095 Speaker 3: it's not either load bearing or provides bracing, and therefore 1526 01:23:04,175 --> 01:23:06,095 Speaker 3: you could remove it. Because let's say when you go 1527 01:23:06,175 --> 01:23:08,255 Speaker 3: to sell the house, someone looks at the floor plan 1528 01:23:09,095 --> 01:23:11,855 Speaker 3: that's on file, sees that a wall has been removed, 1529 01:23:11,935 --> 01:23:13,895 Speaker 3: and that will then ring alarm bell. 1530 01:23:14,055 --> 01:23:19,695 Speaker 14: So that's the two things. One house, integrity to cover myself. 1531 01:23:19,535 --> 01:23:23,775 Speaker 3: Legally absolutely, and and you know, getting an LBP to 1532 01:23:24,335 --> 01:23:26,735 Speaker 3: do the work probably wouldn't be a bad thing either, 1533 01:23:27,495 --> 01:23:29,935 Speaker 3: or at least to supervise it just in case. You know, 1534 01:23:30,055 --> 01:23:32,415 Speaker 3: do you know whether there are services, for example, that 1535 01:23:32,535 --> 01:23:36,015 Speaker 3: run through that wall, So if there's PowerPoint there might 1536 01:23:36,095 --> 01:23:38,135 Speaker 3: be water mains or you. 1537 01:23:38,135 --> 01:23:41,775 Speaker 14: Know, there's a fridge and a pantry up against it 1538 01:23:42,055 --> 01:23:44,735 Speaker 14: at the moment the power but there's definitely no. 1539 01:23:45,055 --> 01:23:49,615 Speaker 3: No water is on the other side. Okay, But either way, 1540 01:23:49,815 --> 01:23:52,575 Speaker 3: I think you know, take it to someone who suitably qualified, 1541 01:23:52,655 --> 01:23:57,095 Speaker 3: so either an engineer, architect architectural designer. Have them determined 1542 01:23:57,095 --> 01:23:59,695 Speaker 3: whether or not that wall is offering up bracing or 1543 01:24:00,375 --> 01:24:03,255 Speaker 3: load bearing, and then if it's not, then yeah, go ahead, 1544 01:24:03,295 --> 01:24:05,855 Speaker 3: but do the homework first, and do they do like a. 1545 01:24:06,695 --> 01:24:09,335 Speaker 14: A report to counts. Then I lodged that with the 1546 01:24:09,495 --> 01:24:12,815 Speaker 14: council or the or or don't need to do that. 1547 01:24:12,935 --> 01:24:13,495 Speaker 1: I just know. 1548 01:24:14,975 --> 01:24:18,895 Speaker 3: If like you can undertake building work that doesn't need 1549 01:24:18,975 --> 01:24:21,775 Speaker 3: a consent under schedule one of the building acts. But 1550 01:24:21,935 --> 01:24:24,455 Speaker 3: again I think you would want some evidence to say 1551 01:24:24,535 --> 01:24:28,455 Speaker 3: that you get, yeah, you want something in writing, which 1552 01:24:28,535 --> 01:24:30,655 Speaker 3: isn't a problem, and then it just you attach that 1553 01:24:30,975 --> 01:24:34,135 Speaker 3: to your own documentation from the house and should someone 1554 01:24:34,335 --> 01:24:36,935 Speaker 3: ask later on, I don't know that you necessarily have 1555 01:24:37,055 --> 01:24:40,095 Speaker 3: to go to the extent of submitting because the consent's 1556 01:24:40,135 --> 01:24:43,175 Speaker 3: being signed off, right, So if there's not like. 1557 01:24:43,215 --> 01:24:46,295 Speaker 14: An official form or any you know, when you get 1558 01:24:47,615 --> 01:24:51,935 Speaker 14: I've used the engineer to get a code yep, code 1559 01:24:52,695 --> 01:24:54,695 Speaker 14: done for something, and he filled out some sort of 1560 01:24:54,735 --> 01:24:58,335 Speaker 14: form and attached it to my consent to that job. 1561 01:24:58,535 --> 01:25:02,215 Speaker 14: But obviously that this is not consent job. 1562 01:25:02,415 --> 01:25:08,095 Speaker 3: So no, if it's not a consent job, I mean they. 1563 01:25:08,055 --> 01:25:10,335 Speaker 14: Would know what happens. They must do the stuff all 1564 01:25:10,335 --> 01:25:10,775 Speaker 14: the tropes. 1565 01:25:10,975 --> 01:25:14,055 Speaker 3: Yeah, actually get the professional advice. Go from there. Good 1566 01:25:14,135 --> 01:25:16,975 Speaker 3: luck with it, enjoy, take care all the best mate. 1567 01:25:17,015 --> 01:25:19,015 Speaker 3: By by then, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 1568 01:25:19,055 --> 01:25:20,855 Speaker 3: is number to call. It's eleven minutes after eight. We're 1569 01:25:20,855 --> 01:25:26,455 Speaker 3: talking building through to eight point thirty. We have been talking. 1570 01:25:26,655 --> 01:25:29,335 Speaker 3: Two things we've been talking about. One is sort of 1571 01:25:29,375 --> 01:25:31,575 Speaker 3: like if you've made a chopping board, do you oil 1572 01:25:31,655 --> 01:25:34,855 Speaker 3: it or put some preserved. Someone's going, hey, look, surely 1573 01:25:34,935 --> 01:25:37,375 Speaker 3: sealing a remove chopping board. This is someone who's making 1574 01:25:37,415 --> 01:25:41,295 Speaker 3: their own chopping board, which coincidentally happens to be one 1575 01:25:41,335 --> 01:25:45,375 Speaker 3: of my little projects at the moment as well. Having 1576 01:25:46,735 --> 01:25:49,175 Speaker 3: surely sealing a remove chopping board defeats the whole point 1577 01:25:49,215 --> 01:25:51,055 Speaker 3: of having a wooden board. Keep it natural, they work 1578 01:25:51,095 --> 01:25:55,415 Speaker 3: better and they'll stay clean. Yeah, there are inherent antibacterial 1579 01:25:56,015 --> 01:25:59,575 Speaker 3: elements to timber, and so There's been a long running 1580 01:25:59,655 --> 01:26:02,495 Speaker 3: argument as to whether or not you know, the plastic 1581 01:26:02,575 --> 01:26:05,135 Speaker 3: chopping boards that probably most of us have, are they 1582 01:26:06,455 --> 01:26:09,935 Speaker 3: more sanitary, Are they from a food safety point of 1583 01:26:10,015 --> 01:26:14,655 Speaker 3: view better? Or timber chopping boards better? And then if 1584 01:26:14,655 --> 01:26:16,455 Speaker 3: you've got a timber chopping board and then you then 1585 01:26:16,575 --> 01:26:20,375 Speaker 3: treat it, does that introduce bacteria? Does it hold bacteria? 1586 01:26:20,495 --> 01:26:22,775 Speaker 3: So I'll be actually flip me a text if you've 1587 01:26:22,775 --> 01:26:26,295 Speaker 3: got a particular opinion on that. So keeping it natural 1588 01:26:26,415 --> 01:26:28,495 Speaker 3: they will work better and stay clean. Other people have 1589 01:26:28,615 --> 01:26:34,295 Speaker 3: suggested particular types of mineral oil, and then also some 1590 01:26:34,495 --> 01:26:36,975 Speaker 3: tongue oil or some walnut oil, or perhaps you do 1591 01:26:37,095 --> 01:26:39,455 Speaker 3: nothing at all. What's the name of that magic ruler 1592 01:26:39,495 --> 01:26:42,615 Speaker 3: for someone who is everything? There's nothing magic about it. 1593 01:26:42,695 --> 01:26:47,055 Speaker 3: It's just good technology, good design, good rule. So if 1594 01:26:47,095 --> 01:26:49,655 Speaker 3: you just look up good rule, what I like is 1595 01:26:49,695 --> 01:26:52,735 Speaker 3: it's a keywi idea. There's someone who sat down thought 1596 01:26:52,735 --> 01:26:55,455 Speaker 3: about what a folding ruler needs to do in New 1597 01:26:55,535 --> 01:26:59,775 Speaker 3: Zealand and made one, which is awesome. So good rule 1598 01:26:59,935 --> 01:27:01,735 Speaker 3: is the one that I've been talking about. I've also 1599 01:27:01,775 --> 01:27:04,695 Speaker 3: been talking about bittholders. This is stocking stuff as right, 1600 01:27:05,775 --> 01:27:09,455 Speaker 3: and especially if you've got Ryobi gear. You can buy skins. 1601 01:27:09,495 --> 01:27:11,495 Speaker 3: You can just buy a tool without having to buy 1602 01:27:11,575 --> 01:27:14,415 Speaker 3: a battery or and a charger. That's a good little 1603 01:27:14,455 --> 01:27:18,975 Speaker 3: stocking stuffer as well, if you're onto the Rhiobi gear. 1604 01:27:19,455 --> 01:27:21,655 Speaker 3: Like I've got a fan that I hang up, and 1605 01:27:21,895 --> 01:27:25,095 Speaker 3: it's a cordless one, just a little rotating fan that 1606 01:27:25,215 --> 01:27:27,855 Speaker 3: I hang up in the workshop. And when I'm in 1607 01:27:27,895 --> 01:27:30,095 Speaker 3: there yesterday and it's reasonably warm and i've blocked up 1608 01:27:30,175 --> 01:27:32,255 Speaker 3: or well, I didn't have any windows anyway, I would 1609 01:27:32,255 --> 01:27:33,815 Speaker 3: have blocked them up so I can get more shelving. 1610 01:27:33,895 --> 01:27:36,575 Speaker 3: And regardless, it gets a bit stuffy in there. So 1611 01:27:36,615 --> 01:27:38,095 Speaker 3: I just have a little fan that hangs on the 1612 01:27:38,175 --> 01:27:40,775 Speaker 3: ceiling and while I'm working, it's just taken away in 1613 01:27:40,815 --> 01:27:43,335 Speaker 3: the background. Great, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten, A 1614 01:27:43,455 --> 01:27:45,175 Speaker 3: will take a break. We'll talk to Sherry in just 1615 01:27:45,215 --> 01:27:48,335 Speaker 3: a moment. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the 1616 01:27:48,775 --> 01:27:53,015 Speaker 3: number to call, just quickly on the chopping board. Thing 1617 01:27:53,135 --> 01:27:56,895 Speaker 3: is interesting miner oil. Never use any vegetable oil because 1618 01:27:56,935 --> 01:27:59,455 Speaker 3: it can become rancid, or it will become rancid and 1619 01:27:59,535 --> 01:28:03,015 Speaker 3: then someone else's taxed through. Butcher's blocks, massive wooden blocks 1620 01:28:03,055 --> 01:28:05,895 Speaker 3: in their shops. When the shops such as they are 1621 01:28:05,935 --> 01:28:09,175 Speaker 3: exuit that nobody died, they shaved them regularly. Maybe that's 1622 01:28:09,215 --> 01:28:11,135 Speaker 3: the key to it, is give them a good scrape 1623 01:28:11,135 --> 01:28:14,575 Speaker 3: from time to time. Apparently there are bees wax safe, 1624 01:28:15,055 --> 01:28:20,935 Speaker 3: food safe finishes that you can use. I haven't even 1625 01:28:21,015 --> 01:28:23,255 Speaker 3: started making the chopping board, but it's an idea that 1626 01:28:24,135 --> 01:28:26,375 Speaker 3: wandered into my mind the other day. And I've got 1627 01:28:26,415 --> 01:28:28,615 Speaker 3: some timber that I'd like to use up and I'm like, hmm, 1628 01:28:30,335 --> 01:28:33,575 Speaker 3: never made a chopping build before. Might have a crack 1629 01:28:33,615 --> 01:28:36,935 Speaker 3: at that. Oh, eight hundred eighty eighty is the number 1630 01:28:36,975 --> 01:28:40,015 Speaker 3: to call. Sherry A very good morning to you. How 1631 01:28:40,055 --> 01:28:40,735 Speaker 3: are you this morning? 1632 01:28:41,415 --> 01:28:41,575 Speaker 4: Good? 1633 01:28:41,615 --> 01:28:41,775 Speaker 14: Good? 1634 01:28:41,815 --> 01:28:45,255 Speaker 11: Thank you good. The question I have it's a bit 1635 01:28:45,255 --> 01:28:48,335 Speaker 11: of a strange question, maybe for a builder, but it's 1636 01:28:49,095 --> 01:28:52,495 Speaker 11: regarding fixing. This is a brand new build and the 1637 01:28:52,575 --> 01:28:57,335 Speaker 11: plumber has fixed both toilets and either bathrooms. Rather than 1638 01:28:57,375 --> 01:28:59,815 Speaker 11: putting a screw through the two holes in the base 1639 01:28:59,975 --> 01:29:02,615 Speaker 11: of the toilet bowls, he's just filled those up nicely 1640 01:29:02,695 --> 01:29:06,335 Speaker 11: with silicone. And I said, he's siliconed around the the 1641 01:29:07,095 --> 01:29:09,855 Speaker 11: base of the bowl, quite quite a wide margin of 1642 01:29:09,935 --> 01:29:12,215 Speaker 11: silicone to hold the bowl there. But he hasn't put 1643 01:29:12,255 --> 01:29:14,175 Speaker 11: any screws and is that normal? 1644 01:29:15,935 --> 01:29:18,775 Speaker 3: Before I answer that, I suspect that up and down 1645 01:29:18,815 --> 01:29:21,455 Speaker 3: the country, if there are plumbers listing, they'll be standing 1646 01:29:21,535 --> 01:29:25,735 Speaker 3: by going don't ask a bloody chippy about plumbing questions. 1647 01:29:28,415 --> 01:29:30,335 Speaker 3: I guess the screw holes are there for a reason, 1648 01:29:30,575 --> 01:29:34,175 Speaker 3: right to secure them the pan to the ground, saying 1649 01:29:34,375 --> 01:29:40,775 Speaker 3: that pans typically don't move around a lot. So you know, 1650 01:29:41,215 --> 01:29:45,015 Speaker 3: a decent bead of sealant well applied and the right 1651 01:29:45,095 --> 01:29:48,695 Speaker 3: type of sealant will probably keep the bowl in place. 1652 01:29:50,735 --> 01:29:53,455 Speaker 3: And yes, the advantage of that is that you know, 1653 01:29:53,495 --> 01:29:56,135 Speaker 3: because especially if it's on a tiled floor, for example, 1654 01:29:57,335 --> 01:30:00,095 Speaker 3: there is always a small risk that you could crack 1655 01:30:00,175 --> 01:30:02,695 Speaker 3: a toll while you're drilling through it or screwing into it. 1656 01:30:04,975 --> 01:30:07,975 Speaker 3: Maybe concerns around the water proofing, you know, because if 1657 01:30:08,055 --> 01:30:11,615 Speaker 3: it's and then it's waterproofed underneath, and then you go 1658 01:30:11,735 --> 01:30:15,175 Speaker 3: and put a screw through into the floor. And is 1659 01:30:15,255 --> 01:30:17,055 Speaker 3: the floor a concrete floor, a timber. 1660 01:30:16,855 --> 01:30:20,575 Speaker 11: Floor, it's a concrete floor, is a concrete floor. But 1661 01:30:21,095 --> 01:30:23,415 Speaker 11: what I wondered was if the plumber had done that 1662 01:30:23,655 --> 01:30:28,295 Speaker 11: to avoid maybe piercing the underfloor. Heating pipes are. 1663 01:30:30,215 --> 01:30:32,935 Speaker 3: Okay, so you've got actually hydronic systems, so you've got 1664 01:30:33,015 --> 01:30:45,735 Speaker 3: water pipes, the electric pipes electric. Ideally, I wouldn't have. 1665 01:30:45,695 --> 01:30:48,135 Speaker 11: Imagined I put the pipe that put the pipes near 1666 01:30:48,215 --> 01:30:49,735 Speaker 11: the toilet. They would have sort of avoid that. 1667 01:30:51,255 --> 01:30:54,535 Speaker 3: So typically when you're doing an under tile so above 1668 01:30:54,615 --> 01:30:58,695 Speaker 3: floor under tile electric heating system, you tend to, you know, 1669 01:30:58,855 --> 01:31:01,935 Speaker 3: before the people come to do it, you mark out 1670 01:31:02,015 --> 01:31:07,695 Speaker 3: where things like basins and baths and toilets go, mark 1671 01:31:07,775 --> 01:31:09,695 Speaker 3: those on the floor, and then they tend to stay 1672 01:31:09,735 --> 01:31:13,055 Speaker 3: away from them. Ideally, you actually want to be reasonably 1673 01:31:13,175 --> 01:31:15,535 Speaker 3: close to where your feet are when you're on the toilet, 1674 01:31:15,575 --> 01:31:17,335 Speaker 3: because you want those to be warmed. That's the whole 1675 01:31:17,335 --> 01:31:21,855 Speaker 3: point of having undertill heating. Yes, and be like me 1676 01:31:22,055 --> 01:31:24,215 Speaker 3: twenty years ago where I thought I'll save myself a 1677 01:31:24,295 --> 01:31:26,615 Speaker 3: bit of money and not do the half a meter 1678 01:31:26,855 --> 01:31:30,695 Speaker 3: just inside the door. Right, that's by the by, But 1679 01:31:30,775 --> 01:31:35,775 Speaker 3: that's a decision that I regret every winter. Right, And look, 1680 01:31:36,415 --> 01:31:40,655 Speaker 3: I'm happy for plumbers to criticize me, but I suspect 1681 01:31:40,735 --> 01:31:44,055 Speaker 3: in this instance it's probably not going to have any 1682 01:31:44,175 --> 01:31:45,135 Speaker 3: negative impact. 1683 01:31:45,295 --> 01:31:47,855 Speaker 11: Right, So oh okay, just as long as I'm going 1684 01:31:47,895 --> 01:31:50,055 Speaker 11: to start moving around or something and shifting around with 1685 01:31:50,135 --> 01:31:52,175 Speaker 11: a silicone the only silicone holding. 1686 01:31:51,975 --> 01:31:54,535 Speaker 3: It all right now, texts have already come in. Most 1687 01:31:54,615 --> 01:31:57,215 Speaker 3: toilets aren't screwed to the floor. Pete Yes, silicon is 1688 01:31:57,335 --> 01:32:00,895 Speaker 3: normal and the best method for securing toilet pans also 1689 01:32:00,975 --> 01:32:04,655 Speaker 3: avoids a lot of problems. So I think it's probably okay. 1690 01:32:05,255 --> 01:32:10,735 Speaker 11: Fantastic, very much pleasure, all this with a new house. 1691 01:32:10,655 --> 01:32:16,975 Speaker 3: Take care. Fantastic. So there you go, morning peak. Where 1692 01:32:16,975 --> 01:32:19,815 Speaker 3: do you purchase a good rule? Good question? To be fair, 1693 01:32:20,415 --> 01:32:29,615 Speaker 3: not all stores have them. See now I've got I've 1694 01:32:29,655 --> 01:32:33,775 Speaker 3: snookered myself, haven't I I could suggest, I know, didn't 1695 01:32:33,815 --> 01:32:36,295 Speaker 3: put timbers not open today, they will be open tomorrow. 1696 01:32:36,495 --> 01:32:39,095 Speaker 3: And to be fair, it's a long drive just to 1697 01:32:39,135 --> 01:32:42,415 Speaker 3: come pick up a good rule. Search for them online, 1698 01:32:42,655 --> 01:32:47,335 Speaker 3: order them online. Probably won't get them by Christmas. Flip 1699 01:32:47,415 --> 01:32:49,135 Speaker 3: me a text if you know where they are. I 1700 01:32:49,255 --> 01:32:55,015 Speaker 3: have a feeling that they might be in placemakers, they 1701 01:32:55,095 --> 01:32:58,655 Speaker 3: might be in the itms, they might be at Carter's. 1702 01:33:02,575 --> 01:33:05,575 Speaker 3: See now I've snookered myself. Oh eight hundred eighty eight. 1703 01:33:05,775 --> 01:33:07,895 Speaker 3: We actually, I'll tell you what we're going to do. 1704 01:33:08,935 --> 01:33:11,815 Speaker 3: We're gonna We're gonna get rude on just a fraction earlier, 1705 01:33:12,295 --> 01:33:15,415 Speaker 3: and I'm going to indulge myself by playing my favorite 1706 01:33:15,455 --> 01:33:17,775 Speaker 3: all time Christmas song. Here you go. 1707 01:33:36,135 --> 01:33:59,975 Speaker 6: Mhm, m hm. 1708 01:34:01,135 --> 01:34:05,335 Speaker 13: The Lowser come out. In the First World War, bloody 1709 01:34:05,415 --> 01:34:10,895 Speaker 13: red Barren spying once more, the Allied command ignored all 1710 01:34:10,975 --> 01:34:14,255 Speaker 13: of his men and calling on Snoopy. 1711 01:34:14,175 --> 01:34:15,295 Speaker 10: To do it again. 1712 01:34:15,975 --> 01:34:21,015 Speaker 13: Was the technical Christmas reported below. The Snoopy went up 1713 01:34:21,695 --> 01:34:26,095 Speaker 13: in search of his bow spy the red barn. Seriously 1714 01:34:26,255 --> 01:34:30,135 Speaker 13: they bought with ice on his wings, swooping who he was? 1715 01:34:30,255 --> 01:34:30,535 Speaker 6: God? 1716 01:34:33,335 --> 01:34:33,935 Speaker 4: Transmas? 1717 01:34:34,255 --> 01:34:37,855 Speaker 6: Well? Was Christmas? Bang up? 1718 01:34:38,135 --> 01:34:38,655 Speaker 8: Bobo? 1719 01:34:41,095 --> 01:34:42,455 Speaker 6: Ask him be so? 1720 01:34:44,895 --> 01:34:53,575 Speaker 13: And the build that the barnhead Snoopy did in his sights. 1721 01:34:54,095 --> 01:34:58,015 Speaker 13: He explore the trigger to pull it up tight. Why 1722 01:34:58,095 --> 01:35:00,775 Speaker 13: he didn't shoot, well, we'll never know. 1723 01:35:01,775 --> 01:35:02,455 Speaker 6: Or was it the. 1724 01:35:02,575 --> 01:35:09,855 Speaker 13: Bells from the village below christmasspell? 1725 01:35:10,095 --> 01:35:18,015 Speaker 2: Those christmaspells ringing through the land, raining peace through the 1726 01:35:18,215 --> 01:35:19,695 Speaker 2: wall of the world. 1727 01:35:20,175 --> 01:35:21,855 Speaker 6: And the to. 1728 01:35:25,575 --> 01:35:29,935 Speaker 13: The baron made Snoopy flight of the riot and forced 1729 01:35:29,975 --> 01:35:34,495 Speaker 13: him to land behind the enemy lives. Snoopy was certain 1730 01:35:35,095 --> 01:35:38,375 Speaker 13: that this was the end when the baron cried out, 1731 01:35:38,695 --> 01:35:50,655 Speaker 13: Merry Christmas, my friend. The baron then offered a holiday toast, 1732 01:35:51,215 --> 01:35:53,975 Speaker 13: and Snoopy our hero saluted his. 1733 01:35:54,135 --> 01:35:56,975 Speaker 3: House, and then when the roar, they. 1734 01:35:56,935 --> 01:36:00,255 Speaker 13: Were both on their way, which no one made meet 1735 01:36:00,735 --> 01:36:07,495 Speaker 13: on some other days, Christmasbell expands. 1736 01:36:37,055 --> 01:36:37,455 Speaker 3: Variety. 1737 01:36:37,495 --> 01:36:38,055 Speaker 13: Oh the ego. 1738 01:36:38,215 --> 01:36:41,295 Speaker 3: It's my favorite, and it brings back very very evocative 1739 01:36:41,495 --> 01:36:44,055 Speaker 3: and pretty much happy memories of as a kid growing 1740 01:36:44,135 --> 01:36:49,135 Speaker 3: up in the seventies, and it was you know, you'd 1741 01:36:49,175 --> 01:36:52,535 Speaker 3: lift the lid on the three and one pie record 1742 01:36:52,695 --> 01:36:56,295 Speaker 3: player and radio beautiful mahogany finish and all that sort 1743 01:36:56,295 --> 01:36:58,495 Speaker 3: of thing, and put on the forty five and listen 1744 01:36:58,535 --> 01:37:03,335 Speaker 3: to that at Christmas time. So there are more religious 1745 01:37:03,495 --> 01:37:05,855 Speaker 3: songs that I might enjoy as well, but I like 1746 01:37:05,935 --> 01:37:09,695 Speaker 3: that one. It gives me a nice smile of a 1747 01:37:09,895 --> 01:37:12,975 Speaker 3: very very happy time. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 1748 01:37:13,135 --> 01:37:17,335 Speaker 3: Let's jump into the garden A redcline past is with us, 1749 01:37:17,415 --> 01:37:18,935 Speaker 3: will be with him in just a moment. 1750 01:37:19,535 --> 01:37:22,455 Speaker 1: For more from The Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp, listen 1751 01:37:22,575 --> 01:37:25,295 Speaker 1: live to news talks'd B on Sunday mornings from Sex, 1752 01:37:25,695 --> 01:37:27,695 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.