1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB. 3 00:00:13,067 --> 00:00:16,827 Speaker 2: Matt Henry has become the undoubted spearhead of the black 4 00:00:16,827 --> 00:00:22,187 Speaker 2: Caps bowling attack. Edge is it taken? Yes it is. 5 00:00:22,667 --> 00:00:25,307 Speaker 3: It was a matter of time about the subtle adjustments 6 00:00:25,307 --> 00:00:29,107 Speaker 3: in the field, allowing your gun bowler, who's been fantastic 7 00:00:29,147 --> 00:00:33,027 Speaker 3: for twelve months to pick up the first and there 8 00:00:33,067 --> 00:00:36,707 Speaker 3: he goes again in all conditions. How good he is 9 00:00:36,747 --> 00:00:39,867 Speaker 3: at adapting and being fluid in his changes in his 10 00:00:39,987 --> 00:00:45,147 Speaker 3: lines and his lengths. And yet another reward gone. What 11 00:00:45,427 --> 00:00:49,067 Speaker 3: a bowling change from mit centner on the stroke of lunch. 12 00:00:51,147 --> 00:00:54,107 Speaker 3: Oh year, then edge on that is their bat. Yes, 13 00:00:54,147 --> 00:00:56,507 Speaker 3: there's two wickets in the over. 14 00:00:57,747 --> 00:00:59,627 Speaker 4: Let's give you a simple catch you off the helmet, 15 00:01:00,307 --> 00:01:02,747 Speaker 4: umpires giving it straight away, must have beaten the glove 16 00:01:03,107 --> 00:01:07,707 Speaker 4: and Henry picks up his five wickets. Really performance this morning, 17 00:01:07,827 --> 00:01:09,307 Speaker 4: the leader of this attack. 18 00:01:09,067 --> 00:01:12,147 Speaker 2: Yeah, the leader. Indeed, wicket after wicket after wicket, nine 19 00:01:12,267 --> 00:01:15,267 Speaker 2: for ninety Matt Henry and that most recent Test win 20 00:01:15,587 --> 00:01:19,547 Speaker 2: over Zimbabwe well inside three days, just the latest example 21 00:01:19,667 --> 00:01:23,067 Speaker 2: of his value to New Zealand, with hopefully a lot 22 00:01:23,107 --> 00:01:25,947 Speaker 2: more to come. He now has three hundred and thirty 23 00:01:25,987 --> 00:01:28,747 Speaker 2: one wickets for New Zealand across all formats. That has 24 00:01:28,787 --> 00:01:33,387 Speaker 2: him sixth on our all time list of international wicket 25 00:01:33,387 --> 00:01:38,107 Speaker 2: taking bowlers. Dale Hadley was an accomplished seam bowler himself, 26 00:01:38,147 --> 00:01:40,747 Speaker 2: taking seventy one wickets and twenty six Test matches for 27 00:01:40,787 --> 00:01:43,587 Speaker 2: New Zealand and three hundred and fifty one across a 28 00:01:43,627 --> 00:01:47,867 Speaker 2: first class career which spans seventeen years. Dale Hadley then 29 00:01:47,907 --> 00:01:51,587 Speaker 2: became a highly regarded and hugely respected coach both here 30 00:01:51,627 --> 00:01:54,427 Speaker 2: in New Zealand and overseas. He joins us now to 31 00:01:54,547 --> 00:01:56,667 Speaker 2: chat a bit about Matt Henry Dale. Thanks for your time. 32 00:01:56,707 --> 00:02:00,387 Speaker 2: Where did you first become aware of Matt Henry. 33 00:02:00,627 --> 00:02:02,667 Speaker 5: I think my first contact with him was in his 34 00:02:02,787 --> 00:02:05,707 Speaker 5: very early teenage years when he was involved in can't 35 00:02:05,907 --> 00:02:07,067 Speaker 5: underage clinics. 36 00:02:07,707 --> 00:02:11,427 Speaker 2: Were you able to tell at that early age that 37 00:02:11,467 --> 00:02:13,587 Speaker 2: he might be something a bit special? 38 00:02:14,587 --> 00:02:17,187 Speaker 5: No, not really, because I remember him as a young 39 00:02:17,227 --> 00:02:19,667 Speaker 5: teenager being like a newborn giraffe and these legs and 40 00:02:19,747 --> 00:02:22,347 Speaker 5: arms are going in all directions. He didn't have a 41 00:02:22,387 --> 00:02:24,347 Speaker 5: lot of control over his body at that stage. So 42 00:02:24,787 --> 00:02:27,347 Speaker 5: at that stage and the early teenagers, no, I wouldn't 43 00:02:27,347 --> 00:02:27,947 Speaker 5: have predicted it. 44 00:02:28,307 --> 00:02:31,867 Speaker 2: So what then happened in the early stages that allowed 45 00:02:31,947 --> 00:02:35,347 Speaker 2: him to go from, as you've so eloquently put it, 46 00:02:35,347 --> 00:02:38,507 Speaker 2: a bit of a giraffe, to first of all a 47 00:02:38,587 --> 00:02:42,027 Speaker 2: first class bowler, and then on towards an international one. 48 00:02:43,427 --> 00:02:45,787 Speaker 5: I think, to be fair, he's one of these boys 49 00:02:45,787 --> 00:02:50,107 Speaker 5: who really dedicated to him improving theirself. He was very 50 00:02:50,107 --> 00:02:52,747 Speaker 5: respectful and attentive and had a great desire to learn 51 00:02:52,787 --> 00:02:55,627 Speaker 5: and get better. And he was a fellow who was 52 00:02:55,667 --> 00:02:58,227 Speaker 5: diligent in his preparation and was a very hard worker. 53 00:02:58,747 --> 00:03:01,267 Speaker 5: And over the years he's refined himself into becoming an 54 00:03:01,307 --> 00:03:02,467 Speaker 5: international great bowler. 55 00:03:03,187 --> 00:03:06,067 Speaker 2: In terms of those refinements, Dale, where have you seen 56 00:03:06,107 --> 00:03:10,467 Speaker 2: that big improvements in his bowling, you know, in particular 57 00:03:10,667 --> 00:03:11,947 Speaker 2: in recent years. 58 00:03:13,347 --> 00:03:16,147 Speaker 5: I think what he's done is that technically had a 59 00:03:16,147 --> 00:03:18,307 Speaker 5: few issues when he was very young, and I think 60 00:03:18,347 --> 00:03:20,787 Speaker 5: some of those issues may have led to a stress fracture, 61 00:03:21,347 --> 00:03:24,427 Speaker 5: but he's worked hard to overcome those. I think what's 62 00:03:24,427 --> 00:03:27,147 Speaker 5: happened is he's developed a pace where he can bowl 63 00:03:27,227 --> 00:03:29,627 Speaker 5: between the mid one thirties and the sort of the 64 00:03:29,627 --> 00:03:34,147 Speaker 5: lower one forties, which is very competitive internationally. But he's 65 00:03:34,147 --> 00:03:36,947 Speaker 5: a bowler who bowls a good length, and it's because 66 00:03:36,987 --> 00:03:39,027 Speaker 5: he hits the scene more often than not. It makes 67 00:03:39,067 --> 00:03:40,187 Speaker 5: him extremely. 68 00:03:39,787 --> 00:03:43,267 Speaker 2: Dangerous when you talk about those technical issues. Can you 69 00:03:43,347 --> 00:03:45,787 Speaker 2: just drill down into that for us? What was he 70 00:03:46,107 --> 00:03:48,067 Speaker 2: what was he doing which wasn't quite right and which 71 00:03:48,147 --> 00:03:51,387 Speaker 2: was causing problems with stress fractures, et cetera. 72 00:03:52,787 --> 00:03:56,467 Speaker 5: So it's what bowling coaches call a backfoot drift. When 73 00:03:56,467 --> 00:04:00,027 Speaker 5: he takes off on his left foot is landing backfoot 74 00:04:00,107 --> 00:04:03,827 Speaker 5: landing drifted across towards the return crease. So it just 75 00:04:03,867 --> 00:04:05,547 Speaker 5: sort of got him slightly out of the line with 76 00:04:05,747 --> 00:04:09,307 Speaker 5: the hips and shoulders. But he's become very strong now 77 00:04:09,427 --> 00:04:13,067 Speaker 5: and he's rehab very well after stress fracture, and even 78 00:04:13,067 --> 00:04:15,427 Speaker 5: though it's not perfect, it's him. 79 00:04:16,107 --> 00:04:19,227 Speaker 2: Is something like that challenging to fix when a guy 80 00:04:19,307 --> 00:04:21,467 Speaker 2: might have been doing it that way for so. 81 00:04:21,547 --> 00:04:24,867 Speaker 5: Long, it's very difficult to fix. And there's a lot 82 00:04:24,907 --> 00:04:28,027 Speaker 5: of bowls around the world who do have a backfoot drift. Ideally, 83 00:04:28,027 --> 00:04:30,667 Speaker 5: you want all the feet lining up, backfoot, front foot, 84 00:04:30,707 --> 00:04:32,947 Speaker 5: folowtry stare all lining up, and that makes it takes 85 00:04:32,947 --> 00:04:35,347 Speaker 5: a lot of stress off the back. But Matt's a 86 00:04:35,387 --> 00:04:38,707 Speaker 5: strong person now and he has developed his own technique. 87 00:04:39,107 --> 00:04:41,947 Speaker 2: How much variation have you seen him develop in his 88 00:04:42,067 --> 00:04:43,027 Speaker 2: bowling artillery. 89 00:04:44,307 --> 00:04:46,307 Speaker 5: I think the things I've been really impressed with is 90 00:04:46,347 --> 00:04:49,587 Speaker 5: that he can swing the ball, he can bounce the ball, 91 00:04:50,387 --> 00:04:52,747 Speaker 5: but he's got a tremendous change of pace, and that 92 00:04:52,867 --> 00:04:55,947 Speaker 5: was evident in one of the previous games when you 93 00:04:55,987 --> 00:04:57,987 Speaker 5: only gave away with a low number of overs and 94 00:04:58,027 --> 00:05:02,227 Speaker 5: they're chasing seven off the last over. So he's really 95 00:05:02,227 --> 00:05:03,627 Speaker 5: improved tremendously out of those. 96 00:05:03,507 --> 00:05:06,027 Speaker 2: Sort of things with the red ball. Dal do you 97 00:05:06,067 --> 00:05:10,427 Speaker 2: see bowling more wicket taking deliveries now than he used 98 00:05:10,467 --> 00:05:13,227 Speaker 2: to or is he just better at building pressure that 99 00:05:13,387 --> 00:05:16,147 Speaker 2: leads to batsman playing a false stroke for example. 100 00:05:17,267 --> 00:05:19,267 Speaker 5: I think he's so consistent now that he just doesn't 101 00:05:19,307 --> 00:05:22,067 Speaker 5: let the batman get away with loose balls, and I 102 00:05:22,067 --> 00:05:24,507 Speaker 5: think consistency will always bring success. 103 00:05:25,387 --> 00:05:28,307 Speaker 2: And his red bull bowling compared to his white ball bowling, 104 00:05:28,307 --> 00:05:31,427 Speaker 2: he's been equally effective recently across both. Can you just 105 00:05:31,587 --> 00:05:33,827 Speaker 2: tell us what you're seeing in terms of what he's 106 00:05:33,827 --> 00:05:35,467 Speaker 2: doing with the white ball now? 107 00:05:36,587 --> 00:05:38,067 Speaker 5: I think with the white ball, I mean he can 108 00:05:38,067 --> 00:05:39,787 Speaker 5: make the most of the ball. It only swings for 109 00:05:39,827 --> 00:05:41,667 Speaker 5: a few over, so he can make the most of that. 110 00:05:42,067 --> 00:05:44,387 Speaker 5: But he hits the scene and I think that is important, 111 00:05:44,387 --> 00:05:47,747 Speaker 5: and he can vary his length. He controls his length excellently. 112 00:05:49,027 --> 00:05:50,667 Speaker 5: And I love the other fact that he can bowl 113 00:05:50,747 --> 00:05:53,347 Speaker 5: a decent bouncer too, which can really surprise people who 114 00:05:53,347 --> 00:05:54,147 Speaker 5: are on the front foot. 115 00:05:54,547 --> 00:05:58,107 Speaker 2: He doesn't really have that sort of that nasty, fasty 116 00:05:58,147 --> 00:06:00,027 Speaker 2: persona either, from the looks of it. Does he. I 117 00:06:00,107 --> 00:06:02,867 Speaker 2: very rarely see him sledge a batsman or anything like that. 118 00:06:02,907 --> 00:06:05,307 Speaker 2: He just kind of he seems like he just gets 119 00:06:05,347 --> 00:06:05,707 Speaker 2: on with it. 120 00:06:05,747 --> 00:06:11,427 Speaker 5: Is that what you're That's exactly right. He smiles a lot, 121 00:06:11,667 --> 00:06:13,467 Speaker 5: and I think that's a great thing for Bowl of 122 00:06:13,507 --> 00:06:15,507 Speaker 5: the Zoo, Rather than getting angry and that when you 123 00:06:15,547 --> 00:06:17,867 Speaker 5: get angry, get tense and you start following short, he 124 00:06:17,947 --> 00:06:21,187 Speaker 5: smiled and relaxes his body and he's under control. 125 00:06:21,587 --> 00:06:24,507 Speaker 2: Maybe others could take a lesson from that. We know 126 00:06:24,827 --> 00:06:27,227 Speaker 2: how difficult it was for him to get in the 127 00:06:27,227 --> 00:06:29,267 Speaker 2: team in the early part of his career, with the 128 00:06:29,427 --> 00:06:31,547 Speaker 2: likes of Tim Sowdy, Trent Bolt, Neil Wagner and then 129 00:06:31,627 --> 00:06:35,187 Speaker 2: latterly Kyle Jamison blocking his way. How challenging would it 130 00:06:35,227 --> 00:06:37,707 Speaker 2: have been for him to be patient during that part 131 00:06:37,747 --> 00:06:38,387 Speaker 2: of his career. 132 00:06:39,307 --> 00:06:41,067 Speaker 5: I think it must have been very difficult, but he 133 00:06:41,147 --> 00:06:44,347 Speaker 5: never he never gave that impression. It was a bit 134 00:06:44,387 --> 00:06:46,947 Speaker 5: of a shame really, because that's Tim Salvey were winding 135 00:06:46,987 --> 00:06:50,267 Speaker 5: down his career. Matt was sitting there poised and once 136 00:06:50,267 --> 00:06:52,547 Speaker 5: he came in he really made his mark very strongly. 137 00:06:53,387 --> 00:06:55,467 Speaker 2: Might the fact that he didn't play a huge amount 138 00:06:55,467 --> 00:06:58,987 Speaker 2: of Test cricket early on actually be to his advantage 139 00:06:58,987 --> 00:07:01,027 Speaker 2: in some ways now that he hasn't had a huge 140 00:07:01,067 --> 00:07:03,747 Speaker 2: workload over his career, that he might have played a 141 00:07:03,787 --> 00:07:04,827 Speaker 2: lot more tests earlier on. 142 00:07:06,587 --> 00:07:08,547 Speaker 5: No, I'm not sure about that. The thing is he's 143 00:07:08,547 --> 00:07:10,427 Speaker 5: played a lot of cricket because he's playing in county 144 00:07:10,427 --> 00:07:12,987 Speaker 5: cricket there for a while and made a massive impression there. 145 00:07:13,827 --> 00:07:15,907 Speaker 5: He's played an awful lot of games. I was just 146 00:07:15,907 --> 00:07:19,547 Speaker 5: looking through his record and cause she's got in first 147 00:07:19,547 --> 00:07:21,467 Speaker 5: class crew, he played one hundred and eleven games and 148 00:07:21,587 --> 00:07:23,667 Speaker 5: this day is one hundred and seventy four games and 149 00:07:23,667 --> 00:07:26,267 Speaker 5: t twenty one hundred and sixty six games. I mean, 150 00:07:26,307 --> 00:07:28,627 Speaker 5: he's played an awful lot of cricket. But I think 151 00:07:28,627 --> 00:07:32,027 Speaker 5: he is matured and he's refined to skills. So when 152 00:07:32,027 --> 00:07:34,627 Speaker 5: he's come in, he's hit the mark pretty quickly. 153 00:07:34,707 --> 00:07:37,187 Speaker 2: And he's now taking up a leadership role over the 154 00:07:37,227 --> 00:07:40,347 Speaker 2: next wave of New Zealand pace ballers coming through. I'll 155 00:07:40,387 --> 00:07:42,587 Speaker 2: be interested in your assessment of that dale the likes 156 00:07:42,587 --> 00:07:45,947 Speaker 2: of Willow Rourke, Zach Folks, Ben Sears, Nathan Smith, Matt Fisher, 157 00:07:45,947 --> 00:07:47,627 Speaker 2: who we haven't seen a heck of a lot of, 158 00:07:47,747 --> 00:07:50,027 Speaker 2: along with the likes of Carl Jamison and Jacob Duffy 159 00:07:50,307 --> 00:07:52,907 Speaker 2: who have been there a little bit longer. How do 160 00:07:52,947 --> 00:07:55,187 Speaker 2: you assess where we are paceballing wise at the moment. 161 00:07:56,787 --> 00:07:59,227 Speaker 5: I think we've got some very good pacet ballers. They're 162 00:07:59,267 --> 00:08:01,947 Speaker 5: fairly raw and it's going to take some time for 163 00:08:01,987 --> 00:08:04,907 Speaker 5: them to refine themselves. But I think having Matt Henry 164 00:08:04,907 --> 00:08:07,947 Speaker 5: and the team is from end us at communicating and 165 00:08:08,227 --> 00:08:11,747 Speaker 5: sharing knowledge and asking questions. So I think he's going 166 00:08:11,787 --> 00:08:13,307 Speaker 5: to have a major role to play in the future 167 00:08:13,307 --> 00:08:15,027 Speaker 5: of a young quickiest Is there. 168 00:08:14,907 --> 00:08:17,627 Speaker 2: A time which is a sweet spot for a seam 169 00:08:17,707 --> 00:08:22,227 Speaker 2: bowler and age where a fast bowler should be at 170 00:08:22,307 --> 00:08:23,667 Speaker 2: the peak of their pals. 171 00:08:24,707 --> 00:08:27,667 Speaker 5: I would say sort of mid twenties to early thirties 172 00:08:28,187 --> 00:08:31,467 Speaker 5: of the crunch years. You get some people come in 173 00:08:31,547 --> 00:08:33,947 Speaker 5: and they make a mark very early, but quite often 174 00:08:33,987 --> 00:08:36,907 Speaker 5: they can't sustain it. That you once you've developed your 175 00:08:36,907 --> 00:08:39,467 Speaker 5: bowling body and you've got your fitness and backgrounds and 176 00:08:39,507 --> 00:08:42,667 Speaker 5: your strength and conditioning, that I would say twenty five 177 00:08:42,707 --> 00:08:44,267 Speaker 5: to the yearly thirties, and. 178 00:08:44,187 --> 00:08:47,387 Speaker 2: Then of course they have the challenge of, you know, 179 00:08:47,467 --> 00:08:49,707 Speaker 2: changing things when they lose may maybe you know, five 180 00:08:49,827 --> 00:08:51,547 Speaker 2: or ten kilometers of pace, and they have to rely 181 00:08:51,627 --> 00:08:54,187 Speaker 2: on other things like guile, like line and length, as 182 00:08:54,187 --> 00:08:56,587 Speaker 2: your brother Sir Richard did so effectively at the back 183 00:08:56,667 --> 00:08:59,347 Speaker 2: end of his career. Of course, you know, is that 184 00:08:59,427 --> 00:09:02,987 Speaker 2: something that that you know, fast bowlers find it difficult 185 00:09:03,067 --> 00:09:05,067 Speaker 2: to adjust to the fact that they're just not as 186 00:09:05,147 --> 00:09:06,627 Speaker 2: quick as they used to be and have to find 187 00:09:06,667 --> 00:09:07,147 Speaker 2: other ways. 188 00:09:08,187 --> 00:09:11,107 Speaker 5: That's right. The pace alone does not bring success. And 189 00:09:11,147 --> 00:09:13,747 Speaker 5: then you can bowl one hundred and fifty k's and 190 00:09:13,747 --> 00:09:16,067 Speaker 5: if you're not accurate, you're going to get killed. So 191 00:09:16,227 --> 00:09:18,907 Speaker 5: I think people that over time they refine their techniques, 192 00:09:18,947 --> 00:09:22,027 Speaker 5: they refine their skills, and they compensate for the fact 193 00:09:22,067 --> 00:09:23,427 Speaker 5: they can't boil as cricket they used to. 194 00:09:23,987 --> 00:09:25,627 Speaker 2: And just to finish, Darale love me. How do you 195 00:09:25,627 --> 00:09:28,067 Speaker 2: feel now when you watch Matt Henry and you the 196 00:09:28,107 --> 00:09:31,907 Speaker 2: way you outlined them before, the very raw young teenage 197 00:09:31,907 --> 00:09:34,027 Speaker 2: bowler who you first came across, and you watch them 198 00:09:34,067 --> 00:09:36,427 Speaker 2: doing what he's doing. Now, what how do you feel 199 00:09:36,427 --> 00:09:39,067 Speaker 2: when you say made he's actually he's actually made it. 200 00:09:40,947 --> 00:09:43,587 Speaker 5: The great deal of pride in what he is achieving 201 00:09:43,787 --> 00:09:45,907 Speaker 5: is that it couldn't have happened to a better guy. 202 00:09:46,667 --> 00:09:48,387 Speaker 2: Darl It's great to get your insight. Thanks so much 203 00:09:48,387 --> 00:09:51,867 Speaker 2: for joining us this afternoon. Thanks Jason, Thanks Dale Helly. 204 00:09:51,947 --> 00:09:54,987 Speaker 2: They're one of our best ever cricket coaches. A very 205 00:09:55,067 --> 00:09:59,107 Speaker 2: keen eye on Dale Hadley and yes, so interesting to 206 00:09:59,147 --> 00:10:03,147 Speaker 2: hear the early recollections of Matt Henry. What are you saying, 207 00:10:03,147 --> 00:10:06,307 Speaker 2: newborn giraffe? It's probably not rare. I think a lot 208 00:10:06,347 --> 00:10:10,947 Speaker 2: a lot of young fast bowlers kind of just run in, 209 00:10:11,067 --> 00:10:12,867 Speaker 2: don't they, and just try and bowl as quick as 210 00:10:12,867 --> 00:10:16,067 Speaker 2: they can without thinking too much about how they look 211 00:10:16,187 --> 00:10:18,787 Speaker 2: or technically what they're doing. And then when they do 212 00:10:18,867 --> 00:10:23,627 Speaker 2: come under the tutelage and the guidance of a you know, 213 00:10:23,667 --> 00:10:26,947 Speaker 2: a bowling coach like Dale Hadley and others, then I think, 214 00:10:27,067 --> 00:10:29,987 Speaker 2: you know, it must be it must be so cool 215 00:10:30,027 --> 00:10:31,987 Speaker 2: for a guy like Dale Hadley and anyone else who's 216 00:10:31,987 --> 00:10:36,427 Speaker 2: involved in coaching bowlers. To be able to refine a 217 00:10:36,467 --> 00:10:39,387 Speaker 2: guy like that must be different from when you coach 218 00:10:39,707 --> 00:10:43,587 Speaker 2: a better You know, again, you know a lot of 219 00:10:43,587 --> 00:10:45,587 Speaker 2: batters are you know, they're coming and they've got their 220 00:10:45,827 --> 00:10:47,707 Speaker 2: they've got their wheelhouse where they like to hit, and 221 00:10:47,707 --> 00:10:50,347 Speaker 2: you can maybe refine them. But when you are able 222 00:10:50,387 --> 00:10:52,307 Speaker 2: to watch and just you could hear the pride in 223 00:10:52,307 --> 00:10:54,747 Speaker 2: the voice of Dale Hadley at the end there, you know, 224 00:10:54,787 --> 00:10:57,507 Speaker 2: he looks at Matt Henry now and thinks back to 225 00:10:57,547 --> 00:11:00,467 Speaker 2: what Matt Henry was like a couple of decades ago, 226 00:11:00,667 --> 00:11:02,427 Speaker 2: maybe not that quite that long ago, but when he 227 00:11:02,467 --> 00:11:06,507 Speaker 2: was sort of eighteen nineteen, and it must feel you 228 00:11:06,587 --> 00:11:09,827 Speaker 2: with pride to see that the coaching you gave him, 229 00:11:10,387 --> 00:11:12,947 Speaker 2: and the little tweaks you made to help him, and 230 00:11:13,027 --> 00:11:15,747 Speaker 2: the things that you suggested to him have all now 231 00:11:16,227 --> 00:11:19,267 Speaker 2: led to Matt Henry being one of the best international 232 00:11:19,347 --> 00:11:24,147 Speaker 2: bowlers going around, not just in New Zealand but around 233 00:11:24,147 --> 00:11:24,547 Speaker 2: the world. 234 00:11:25,427 --> 00:11:28,587 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 235 00:11:28,707 --> 00:11:32,027 Speaker 1: to news Talks at b weekends from midday, or follow 236 00:11:32,027 --> 00:11:33,667 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio