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Speaker 1: Joined now by Vincent Makerviny, our UK and Europe correspondent.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Vincent, Good morning. The Southport killer has been sentenced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the past hour he's been sentenced. This is

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Speaker 2: Axel Ruda Cabana, who you might remember last July killed

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Speaker 2: three young girls and attempted to murder ten other people

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Speaker 2: and injured many when he attacked a tailors themed dance

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Speaker 2: class just at the start of the school summer holidays.

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Speaker 2: It was due to be a long trial, but when

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Speaker 2: he appeared in court for the first day earlier in

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Speaker 2: the week, he changed his plea to guilty and today

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Speaker 2: there has been the sentencing of this now. He himself

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Speaker 2: acted out in court this morning, yelling saying that he

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Speaker 2: was unwell and that he wasn't being looked after. He

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Speaker 2: was taken out of court for the disruption and it

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Speaker 2: was felt he couldn't be brought back in for the

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Speaker 2: reading of the sentences. But he is received. Because of

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Speaker 2: his age, he cannot be given a whole life sentence,

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Speaker 2: the most strict category in the UK. He was just

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Speaker 2: under eighteen, but he's been given a minimum of fifty

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Speaker 2: two years in jail, which is the longest jail sentence

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Speaker 2: for someone under the age of eighteen, we think that

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Speaker 2: has ever been handed down at that point. He would,

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Speaker 2: you know, face potentially getting to a parole hearing, but

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Speaker 2: the judge has indicated it's incredibly unlikely he will ever

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Speaker 2: be released.

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Speaker 1: Vincent. How is the US responding to President Trump suggesting

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Speaker 1: that Europe needs to focus on increasing its defense to

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Speaker 1: deal with.

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Speaker 2: Pousan Well, as we speak right now, Donald Trump is

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Speaker 2: addressing the World Economic Forum in Davas, and he has

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Speaker 2: been reading Europe somewhat of a riot act, saying that

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Speaker 2: they're still not contributing enough to NATO, that they've got

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Speaker 2: too many tariffs, that they need to start making their

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Speaker 2: products in the United States, and sort of saying that

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Speaker 2: they've gone after too many US companies, too much regulation,

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Speaker 2: particularly citing the tech companies, of course, which he has

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Speaker 2: a close relationship with. But the other thing that he's

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Speaker 2: said is that he is blaming. He seems to accept

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Speaker 2: that Vladimir Puton is to blame for the war in Ukraine,

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Speaker 2: that illegal invasion. He's warned him that Russia could face

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Speaker 2: more tariffs and it's plutin to de escalate it. So

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Speaker 2: it does seem like some of the overtures that Vladimis

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Speaker 2: Lensky has made over the past couple of years to

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump have worked to secure his favor, and the

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Speaker 2: Kremlin has responded saying they're ready for a quote mutually

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Speaker 2: respectful dialogue on the issue of Ukraine. So we do

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Speaker 2: believe that behind the scenes, the White House and the

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Speaker 2: Kremlin are working on some sort of summit between Trump

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Speaker 2: and Putin, But we might say as well, we might

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Speaker 2: well also expect some proper dialogue later this year, perhaps

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Speaker 2: a conference or meeting of the three leaders as they

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Speaker 2: try to negotiate a ceasefire settlement.

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Speaker 1: Vincent macavenny, thank you so much for your time. For

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