1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,347 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,507 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,587 --> 00:00:15,987 Speaker 2: Edb Caps and Westernis have relocated to Nilsen for Games 4 00:00:15,987 --> 00:00:19,307 Speaker 2: three and four in their five match T twenty International 5 00:00:19,307 --> 00:00:22,147 Speaker 2: cricket series. The black Caps square the series on Thursday 6 00:00:22,267 --> 00:00:25,747 Speaker 2: night with a three run victory at Eden Park. Mark 7 00:00:25,827 --> 00:00:29,587 Speaker 2: Chapman seventy eight off twenty eight balls and three catches 8 00:00:29,667 --> 00:00:30,427 Speaker 2: the man of the match. 9 00:00:32,507 --> 00:00:34,787 Speaker 3: That's it hard. You won't get that either, And that's 10 00:00:34,787 --> 00:00:35,907 Speaker 3: fifty for Chapman. 11 00:00:35,987 --> 00:00:39,947 Speaker 1: What at fifty two? He's bought it up off nineteen balls. 12 00:00:41,107 --> 00:00:42,387 Speaker 3: It's a your eight. No, it's our. 13 00:00:42,427 --> 00:00:49,387 Speaker 1: Folly has been plumked in to the boundary goes after that. 14 00:00:51,307 --> 00:00:56,507 Speaker 2: And that's going to be six more. That's gonna go all. 15 00:00:56,427 --> 00:00:57,947 Speaker 1: The way to six more. 16 00:00:59,427 --> 00:01:01,547 Speaker 4: Over back with square. Yeah. 17 00:01:01,587 --> 00:01:03,667 Speaker 2: What an innings from Mark Chapman seventy eight off twenty 18 00:01:03,667 --> 00:01:06,267 Speaker 2: eight balls. Mark, let's start with that innings of yours. 19 00:01:06,627 --> 00:01:08,827 Speaker 2: It's obviously coming off the bat. Okay, how do you 20 00:01:09,147 --> 00:01:11,267 Speaker 2: reflect on your innings on Thursday night? 21 00:01:12,507 --> 00:01:13,827 Speaker 4: Yeah? 22 00:01:13,987 --> 00:01:15,747 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, it was just one of those days 23 00:01:15,747 --> 00:01:18,107 Speaker 3: where the ball seemed to find the middle of the 24 00:01:18,147 --> 00:01:21,947 Speaker 3: bat and you're just enjoying yourselves and you're just trying 25 00:01:21,947 --> 00:01:24,027 Speaker 3: to try to keep it on for as long as 26 00:01:24,027 --> 00:01:26,827 Speaker 3: you can really, But yeah, it was good fun, good 27 00:01:26,867 --> 00:01:29,187 Speaker 3: to get a match running score on the end of 28 00:01:29,187 --> 00:01:29,547 Speaker 3: the team. 29 00:01:29,747 --> 00:01:31,227 Speaker 2: You did look a bit annoyed when you got out. 30 00:01:31,307 --> 00:01:34,147 Speaker 2: I guess that's natural when you're batting well. But did 31 00:01:34,147 --> 00:01:36,347 Speaker 2: you feel like there were more runs out there for you? 32 00:01:37,427 --> 00:01:37,627 Speaker 1: Oh? 33 00:01:37,747 --> 00:01:39,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess when you're going like that, 34 00:01:39,427 --> 00:01:41,507 Speaker 3: you just want it to carry on as long as 35 00:01:41,507 --> 00:01:44,387 Speaker 3: you can. Yeah, we're just having fun out. 36 00:01:44,227 --> 00:01:45,627 Speaker 4: There, Daryl and I. 37 00:01:44,987 --> 00:01:48,467 Speaker 3: We're enjoying ourselves and yeah it's nice to put the 38 00:01:48,467 --> 00:01:50,227 Speaker 3: West Indies boys under a bit of pressure. 39 00:01:50,427 --> 00:01:52,627 Speaker 2: In T twenty cricket, you don't often get the chance 40 00:01:52,667 --> 00:01:55,267 Speaker 2: do You're to bat with someone for a long time. 41 00:01:55,347 --> 00:01:57,867 Speaker 2: Partnerships might only be three or four overs, But even 42 00:01:57,907 --> 00:02:02,587 Speaker 2: in that shorter time, are partnerships still quite important in 43 00:02:02,627 --> 00:02:03,427 Speaker 2: this form of the game. 44 00:02:04,107 --> 00:02:07,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I think you know, something that's really important 45 00:02:07,307 --> 00:02:10,707 Speaker 3: is communicating with your partner around. You know which sort 46 00:02:10,707 --> 00:02:13,947 Speaker 3: of bowler to target, or you know whether you're feeling 47 00:02:13,987 --> 00:02:16,907 Speaker 3: a certain sort of end that you prefer or a 48 00:02:16,947 --> 00:02:19,867 Speaker 3: certain style of bowling. So yeah, I think you know 49 00:02:19,987 --> 00:02:23,627 Speaker 3: it's it's probably underestimated and Tease twenty cricket how important 50 00:02:23,667 --> 00:02:27,107 Speaker 3: the partnership actually is and just communicating with your partner 51 00:02:27,147 --> 00:02:28,627 Speaker 3: on that, Yeah, super important. 52 00:02:28,787 --> 00:02:31,987 Speaker 2: What about coming in mark and pretty much going from 53 00:02:32,267 --> 00:02:34,907 Speaker 2: ball one? Is there an acquired skill to that to 54 00:02:35,067 --> 00:02:38,707 Speaker 2: being able to play run scoring strokes pretty much immediately? 55 00:02:39,667 --> 00:02:39,947 Speaker 4: Yeah? 56 00:02:39,987 --> 00:02:42,987 Speaker 3: Well, I guess the benefit of sort of not i's 57 00:02:43,067 --> 00:02:45,027 Speaker 3: not opening is you get to have a lock at 58 00:02:45,347 --> 00:02:48,587 Speaker 3: at you know what's happening up the top, and then 59 00:02:49,627 --> 00:02:51,827 Speaker 3: I guess you get a pretty good feel for things 60 00:02:52,267 --> 00:02:55,347 Speaker 3: straight away. And sometimes you can you can sort of 61 00:02:55,387 --> 00:02:57,267 Speaker 3: get the pace of a wicket within a few balls 62 00:02:57,947 --> 00:03:01,067 Speaker 3: at times, but sometimes it can take a bit longer. 63 00:03:01,227 --> 00:03:03,547 Speaker 3: So yeah, I guess it's just being really clear on 64 00:03:04,307 --> 00:03:07,227 Speaker 3: the risks that you take and stack them in your favor. 65 00:03:07,747 --> 00:03:10,787 Speaker 2: How much has the way you bat personally in T 66 00:03:10,787 --> 00:03:14,707 Speaker 2: twenty changed during your now well over a decade playing 67 00:03:14,707 --> 00:03:15,467 Speaker 2: this form of the game. 68 00:03:16,547 --> 00:03:21,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I've always tried to have, 69 00:03:21,227 --> 00:03:25,067 Speaker 3: you know, like a high intent when of that. Yeah, 70 00:03:25,107 --> 00:03:27,627 Speaker 3: I guess, you know, you sort of evolve in your 71 00:03:27,627 --> 00:03:29,867 Speaker 3: style of play, but it's making sure that you really 72 00:03:29,907 --> 00:03:33,747 Speaker 3: embrace your strengths and understand you know your own individual 73 00:03:33,827 --> 00:03:34,507 Speaker 3: style of play. 74 00:03:35,387 --> 00:03:37,347 Speaker 4: I think for me, I've become a lot clearer in 75 00:03:37,427 --> 00:03:39,627 Speaker 4: that as i've got a little bit older. 76 00:03:39,667 --> 00:03:42,987 Speaker 3: But I guess you know, these days, you know, scores 77 00:03:42,987 --> 00:03:44,907 Speaker 3: are a little bit higher, so it's just making sure 78 00:03:44,907 --> 00:03:49,107 Speaker 3: that you're attacking instincts at the four when you're playing. 79 00:03:49,347 --> 00:03:52,987 Speaker 2: Have you found that you have increased your scoring areas 80 00:03:53,107 --> 00:03:55,987 Speaker 2: or have you just become more efficient than the ones 81 00:03:56,027 --> 00:03:57,707 Speaker 2: that were good anyway? I mean, for example, does your 82 00:03:57,747 --> 00:04:01,067 Speaker 2: wagon wheel still look the same as it always did 83 00:04:01,187 --> 00:04:03,427 Speaker 2: or are there new places you're scoring runs now? 84 00:04:06,387 --> 00:04:06,667 Speaker 4: I don't. 85 00:04:06,747 --> 00:04:08,387 Speaker 3: I don't really think so, to be honest, I think 86 00:04:08,387 --> 00:04:12,387 Speaker 3: it's just it's sticking to your strengths. I guess for me, 87 00:04:12,547 --> 00:04:15,107 Speaker 3: being someone who is probably a little bit smaller in stature, 88 00:04:15,267 --> 00:04:18,747 Speaker 3: probably get slightly slightly more square of the wicket. But 89 00:04:18,827 --> 00:04:21,187 Speaker 3: I also backed myself to hit down the ground as well, 90 00:04:21,307 --> 00:04:24,307 Speaker 3: so you know, I've always had the sort of scoops 91 00:04:24,347 --> 00:04:26,787 Speaker 3: and things like that as well. So I'll probably call 92 00:04:26,867 --> 00:04:28,867 Speaker 3: on those less than I used to because I was 93 00:04:28,867 --> 00:04:30,987 Speaker 3: trying to back myself with my Plan A. 94 00:04:31,187 --> 00:04:33,067 Speaker 4: But you've still got to have your Plan B and 95 00:04:33,067 --> 00:04:34,067 Speaker 4: your Plan C as well. 96 00:04:34,267 --> 00:04:36,227 Speaker 2: So two o seven the other night at the innings break, 97 00:04:36,227 --> 00:04:37,267 Speaker 2: did that feel like enough? 98 00:04:39,707 --> 00:04:41,587 Speaker 3: To be honest, that Eden Park, you never feel like 99 00:04:41,627 --> 00:04:45,107 Speaker 3: you have enough. Yeah, no matter no matter how many 100 00:04:45,147 --> 00:04:48,867 Speaker 3: you get. You know, obviously with some of the dimensions, 101 00:04:48,947 --> 00:04:52,147 Speaker 3: the chasing team is always in the game. And to 102 00:04:52,147 --> 00:04:55,507 Speaker 3: be honest, the West Indies batting lineup is pretty deep 103 00:04:55,547 --> 00:04:57,547 Speaker 3: and as we saw last night, was one of the 104 00:04:57,547 --> 00:05:00,227 Speaker 3: most explosive and powerful batting lineups and wort of crickets. 105 00:05:00,267 --> 00:05:03,867 Speaker 3: So you know, even even when they needed ninety runs 106 00:05:03,907 --> 00:05:06,827 Speaker 3: at three a ball, you know, with sort of knew 107 00:05:06,867 --> 00:05:09,307 Speaker 3: that they went out of the game just because the 108 00:05:09,347 --> 00:05:12,947 Speaker 3: power they possessed. So, I mean, we're we're well aware 109 00:05:12,987 --> 00:05:14,987 Speaker 3: of that threat and so we're trying to mitigate that 110 00:05:15,027 --> 00:05:15,907 Speaker 3: as much as we can. 111 00:05:16,187 --> 00:05:18,827 Speaker 2: How though, how do you mitigate it? How do you 112 00:05:18,907 --> 00:05:20,907 Speaker 2: defend a ground like that? 113 00:05:21,747 --> 00:05:21,987 Speaker 4: Yeah? 114 00:05:21,987 --> 00:05:24,867 Speaker 3: Well, I think I guess it was obvious to see that, 115 00:05:24,947 --> 00:05:27,787 Speaker 3: you know, if we didn't quite execute our plan that 116 00:05:28,147 --> 00:05:30,067 Speaker 3: you know, the ball was going to sail over the ropes. 117 00:05:31,147 --> 00:05:32,827 Speaker 3: But I think you know, one thing that the bowlers 118 00:05:32,827 --> 00:05:34,907 Speaker 3: did amazingly well is that as they tried to stay 119 00:05:34,907 --> 00:05:36,667 Speaker 3: ahead of the game around not. 120 00:05:36,707 --> 00:05:39,067 Speaker 4: Being too predictable with what they bowled. 121 00:05:40,107 --> 00:05:43,107 Speaker 3: Sometimes if you get set in one plan and and 122 00:05:43,187 --> 00:05:45,507 Speaker 3: you mess, it's it's just a matter of messing by 123 00:05:45,547 --> 00:05:47,547 Speaker 3: a few inches and the ball will go over the ropes. So, 124 00:05:48,187 --> 00:05:50,347 Speaker 3: you know, I guess from from a bowling point of view, 125 00:05:50,387 --> 00:05:53,387 Speaker 3: it was really encouraging to see how proactive the bowlers 126 00:05:53,387 --> 00:05:55,907 Speaker 3: were and and you know how they backed themselves. You know, 127 00:05:56,027 --> 00:05:58,547 Speaker 3: Kyle at the end there to both three slow balls 128 00:05:58,707 --> 00:06:01,227 Speaker 3: in a row to close a game out. There's probably 129 00:06:01,387 --> 00:06:03,787 Speaker 3: something that we don't see that often, but you know, 130 00:06:03,787 --> 00:06:05,867 Speaker 3: it's amazing to see that he just backed that skill 131 00:06:05,907 --> 00:06:08,547 Speaker 3: and executed and you know, won the game for us. 132 00:06:08,707 --> 00:06:11,107 Speaker 2: And speaking of backing skills, your skills in the field 133 00:06:11,227 --> 00:06:14,427 Speaker 2: three catches, one particularly eye catching one and the deep 134 00:06:14,787 --> 00:06:17,267 Speaker 2: there's fielding something you take pride in terms of catching 135 00:06:17,267 --> 00:06:18,347 Speaker 2: but also saving runs. 136 00:06:19,107 --> 00:06:21,907 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I guess, you know, for us 137 00:06:21,707 --> 00:06:24,547 Speaker 3: as a team, it's a it's a really good metric 138 00:06:24,827 --> 00:06:28,747 Speaker 3: on how we're going if we're if we're have energy 139 00:06:28,747 --> 00:06:31,347 Speaker 3: in the field and you know, and we're throwing ourselves around. 140 00:06:31,427 --> 00:06:33,427 Speaker 3: Not to say that we're going to take every single 141 00:06:33,507 --> 00:06:36,307 Speaker 3: chance that presents itself, but you know, more often than not. 142 00:06:36,387 --> 00:06:38,827 Speaker 3: If we're looking for the ball and trying to be 143 00:06:38,867 --> 00:06:41,347 Speaker 3: as aggressive as we can in the field, then you know, 144 00:06:41,387 --> 00:06:43,947 Speaker 3: that's a really good metric for us as a team. 145 00:06:43,987 --> 00:06:46,147 Speaker 3: And you know we've been working hard on that behind 146 00:06:46,147 --> 00:06:46,627 Speaker 3: the scenes. 147 00:06:46,827 --> 00:06:48,627 Speaker 2: And there's a World Cup not too far away in 148 00:06:48,667 --> 00:06:52,547 Speaker 2: this format early twenty twenty six. Are you, personally and 149 00:06:52,587 --> 00:06:55,427 Speaker 2: as a team now building towards that World Cup? Pretty 150 00:06:55,467 --> 00:06:57,227 Speaker 2: much every time you play a game of T twenty. 151 00:06:59,067 --> 00:07:01,267 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess you know people have been 152 00:07:01,307 --> 00:07:03,787 Speaker 3: mentioning the World Cup, but you know, between now and 153 00:07:04,467 --> 00:07:06,227 Speaker 3: our first game, we've got a lot of cricket to 154 00:07:06,227 --> 00:07:06,707 Speaker 3: be played. 155 00:07:06,747 --> 00:07:09,227 Speaker 4: So to be honest, our focus is firmly here. 156 00:07:09,267 --> 00:07:12,667 Speaker 3: We've got an exciting series on our hands, you know, 157 00:07:12,707 --> 00:07:14,867 Speaker 3: one all against the West Indies boys. We've got back 158 00:07:14,907 --> 00:07:17,667 Speaker 3: to back games here at Nelson and then finish off 159 00:07:17,667 --> 00:07:20,107 Speaker 3: in Duned and so you know that's fairmly at the 160 00:07:20,107 --> 00:07:23,547 Speaker 3: front of our minds. And yeah, we will shift our 161 00:07:23,547 --> 00:07:25,747 Speaker 3: focus when when's appropriate for the World Cup. 162 00:07:25,907 --> 00:07:28,867 Speaker 2: Yeah, wonderful spot Nelson. I don't think you've played, personally, 163 00:07:28,907 --> 00:07:30,667 Speaker 2: Mark ahicck of a lot of international cricket there. I 164 00:07:30,707 --> 00:07:32,907 Speaker 2: think a T twenty in a one day perhaps is 165 00:07:32,947 --> 00:07:35,187 Speaker 2: all you've you've played there, looking forward to a couple 166 00:07:35,187 --> 00:07:36,587 Speaker 2: of games at Sexton's. 167 00:07:37,187 --> 00:07:41,027 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a beautiful ground. Yeah, I think we had. 168 00:07:41,227 --> 00:07:44,067 Speaker 3: I had a T twenty here against Lanka last year 169 00:07:44,067 --> 00:07:46,587 Speaker 3: and it was a sellout. So you know we're expecting 170 00:07:46,587 --> 00:07:49,467 Speaker 3: the same. You know, the crowd will really turn up 171 00:07:49,507 --> 00:07:51,907 Speaker 3: and you know, hopefully they can see some exciting cricket. 172 00:07:52,027 --> 00:07:53,747 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hope. So Hey, thanks for joining us, Marke, 173 00:07:53,747 --> 00:07:55,347 Speaker 2: congrats on a great endings the other night. All the 174 00:07:55,387 --> 00:07:56,027 Speaker 2: beast for the rest of. 175 00:07:56,027 --> 00:07:57,347 Speaker 4: The series, brilliant. 176 00:07:57,347 --> 00:07:59,387 Speaker 2: Thanks Jason, No, thank you Mark, Mark Chapman. They're out 177 00:07:59,387 --> 00:08:01,427 Speaker 2: of the black Caps so one all were three games 178 00:08:01,467 --> 00:08:04,027 Speaker 2: to go. The next tour in Nelson is mentioned tomorrow 179 00:08:04,747 --> 00:08:07,947 Speaker 2: at one fifteen and then Monday at one fifteen. The 180 00:08:07,987 --> 00:08:10,227 Speaker 2: fifth and final game of the T twenty series is 181 00:08:10,347 --> 00:08:14,427 Speaker 2: in Dunedin on Thursday, also one fifteen start. Then it's 182 00:08:14,467 --> 00:08:19,187 Speaker 2: three One Day Internationals in christ Church, Napier and Hamilton 183 00:08:19,387 --> 00:08:23,547 Speaker 2: on November sixteen, nineteen and twenty two. And then they 184 00:08:23,547 --> 00:08:25,387 Speaker 2: put the white sign and get the red ball out 185 00:08:25,387 --> 00:08:28,267 Speaker 2: for three Test matches in December December two to sixth 186 00:08:28,307 --> 00:08:31,587 Speaker 2: and christ Church December ten to fourteen and Wellington and 187 00:08:31,707 --> 00:08:34,627 Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty two at Mount Monganui, so plenty of 188 00:08:34,627 --> 00:08:38,147 Speaker 2: cricket to come before Christmas between the black Caps and 189 00:08:38,227 --> 00:08:39,267 Speaker 2: the West Indies. 190 00:08:40,227 --> 00:08:43,427 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 191 00:08:43,507 --> 00:08:46,827 Speaker 1: to news Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow 192 00:08:46,827 --> 00:08:48,627 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.