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Speaker 1: Right to this new job's idea between MSD and the

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Speaker 1: various chambers of comments around the country. It's a new

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Speaker 1: contract that will and theory connect employers with pre screen

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Speaker 1: work ready candidates. Simon Bridges is the Aukland Business Chamber

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Speaker 1: of Boston. He's with a Simon morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, morning, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Why is this a thing? Why wasn't this done in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three, nineteen eighty seven and twenty sixteen. This

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like to I mean, we should have been

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Speaker 1: doing this years ago, shouldn't we.

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Speaker 2: It's a great point I think there are The reason

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Speaker 2: is you look at unemployments five point four percent across

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Speaker 2: the country, Auckland look over six percent. You go back

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Speaker 2: to twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, it was more

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Speaker 2: like three percent. Right, So what that means, to use

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Speaker 2: the technical language, is you've got a lot of people

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Speaker 2: now who aren't strongly dislocated from the workforce, right, they're

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Speaker 2: relatively recently out of work, and they're different than you know.

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Speaker 2: Pet's what Shane Jones had called his nests on the couch.

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Speaker 2: They highly experienced, they've got skills, they've got tertiary color

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Speaker 2: qualifications in other words, they're absolutely ready to get back

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Speaker 2: into the workforce. And then you add to that, and

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Speaker 2: I suppose there's the point where you make a good

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Speaker 2: point that you know could have thought of this some

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Speaker 2: time ago. What if chambers of commerce got probably an

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Speaker 2: unrivaled way around the country. It's connection with employers and

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Speaker 2: particularly small and medium businesses. So we've got a good

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Speaker 2: position to be the blue here right between the biggest

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Speaker 2: recruitment agency in the country with the most job ready

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Speaker 2: candidates MSD and employers who still tell me, look, it's

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Speaker 2: not where it was a couple of years ago, remember

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Speaker 2: when no one could get any employee because the taps

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Speaker 2: had been turned off. But they still tell me a

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Speaker 2: day and day out that recruitment getting good employee as

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest issues.

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Speaker 1: Would not agree. I was in a business this week

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Speaker 1: that said exactly that. Now here's my next question based

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Speaker 1: on that. How many of the unemployed people in this

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Speaker 1: country do you think are ready, are keen, and are

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Speaker 1: willing and capable versus how many are unemployed who really

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Speaker 1: just are a bit useless.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course, you know, the politically correct answerould be saying, oh, well, look,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to think Mike, that they're all absolutely ready

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Speaker 2: and raring to go. You and I both know in

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Speaker 2: the real world that that's not the real answer, But

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Speaker 2: I think what is true at five point four percent? Ever,

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Speaker 2: say in Auckland it's six percent six point I think

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Speaker 2: three or four percent. Also, you've definitely got two or

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Speaker 2: three percent there that actually the numbers tell us that

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Speaker 2: been in work for a long time. They haven't been

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Speaker 2: out long. They've got skills, they've got tertiary qualifications. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, this is across the gamut. We're talking hospo,

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Speaker 2: we're talking tourism, we're talking construction. It ai that you're

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Speaker 2: out there and they want to get back. And we

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Speaker 2: took one at the Chamber of Commerce literally this week

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Speaker 2: with this new program. She seems outstanding, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty excited about it. I think as much of anything,

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Speaker 2: this is about changing perceptions, right, So that to your question, actually,

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Speaker 2: then poor out there says it doesn't think you know

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Speaker 2: MSD No, No, that's about kind of other people that

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Speaker 2: maybe aren't. We're ready. No, there's definitely tens and tens

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Speaker 2: of thousands that are and that you should give a go.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff might go well, Simon Bridges Auckland Chamber CEO.

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