1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: What start the day Informed, Entertained inspires my Head's Early 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Edition with one Room, make your Property search Simple, Used 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: talks at B. 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome to Early Edition. I'm Francesca Rudkins filling 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 2: in for Ryan Broache. He is hosting Mike Costing break 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: the show this morning. Good to have you with us. 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're most welcome to contact me anytime this morning. You 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: can flict me a text on ninety two ninety two 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: Email me at Francesca at used of THEREV, dot co 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: dot m Z. Coming up on the show, we look 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: at the impact of the government's restructure of its Crown 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: Research Institutes what it means for research and scientists in 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: New Zealand. The Prime Minister Chris ba Luxon says the 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: government wants tourism turned on big time internationally. Can our 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: infrastructure handle it? Also this out will invest New Zealand 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: do the trick when it comes to attracting foreign investment 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: to our shores. 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: The agenda. 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: It's Friday, the twenty fourth of January. Thirty one thou 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: people are under evacuation orders and a further twenty three 21 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: thousand under warnings as two new wildfires break out in 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: northern Los Angeles, but we. 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: Feel these strong winds and that is the concern, is 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: that we're going to see these spot fires grow where 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: the ambers could spread. I mean, that's what some of 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: the people were saying as they were hosing down their homes, 27 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 3: so that they're not really concerned that the fire itself, 28 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: the mein, you know, start of the fire, was going to. 29 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: Come to them. 30 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: They're most concerned about ambers blowing. 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: The Large Palisades fire is now sixty eight percent contained 32 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: and the Eaten Fine ninety one percent. Twenty seven people 33 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: died between the two blazers, which started over two weeks ago. 34 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: Researchers say in the next twenty years, over half a 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: million Kiwis will have diabetes if current trends continue. The findings, 36 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: published this morning in the New Zealand Medical Journal are 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: a thirty percent increase on current numbers. They say immediate 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: and bold action needs to be taken to curve current 39 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: trends and prevent further burden on our health system. Red 40 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: weather warnings have been issued for parts of the UK 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: as they brace the storm Ewan. 42 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 5: The storm system has been intensifying as we've been through 43 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 5: Wednesday night and into Thursday. This massive cloud under there. 44 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 6: That's where the. 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 7: Storm is picking up intensity and will continue to do. 46 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 5: So as it approaches the Republic of Ireland. 47 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: Millions have been told to stay at home as damaging 48 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: winds and debris could cause a danger to life. All 49 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: schools in Northern Ireland have been advised to close and 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: OSCAR nominations have been released ahead of the ninety seventh 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: Academy Awards ceremony in March. Netflix film Amelia Peis is 52 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: leading with thirteen nominations, the most nominations ever for a 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: non English language film. Star Calis Sophia Garcon has made 54 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: history been the first openly transacted to be nominated. Films 55 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: Better Man, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, and 56 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: Alien Romius Romulus are all at the best visual effects, 57 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: all worked on by Keu Company Wetter Infect. They probably 58 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: worked on every film in this category. 59 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: I could stay ahead of the curve Earl edition with 60 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: one room, Make your Property research simple, News dogs envy. 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: So what is going on at their Ossie open? The 62 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: crowds are doing abusive at times and according to some players, 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 2: hostile and drunk. The on court interviews have been cringe worthy. 64 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: The TV commentators are trying to do comedy or satire, 65 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, and several players have been offended by 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: it all. The Australian Open, along with other members of 67 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: the four Grand Slam tennis tournaments, is regarded as the 68 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: pinnacle of professional tennis, a tournament with a rich history 69 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: and legacy, and it must experience for tennis fans. The 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: tennis has been awesome, lots of drama there. It's been 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: perfect company for a muggy summer's evening over the last 72 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: couple of weeks, but the event itself, it just feels 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: like a bit of a mess. Djokovic was annoyed by 74 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: comments made by an Australian broadcaster to Tony Jones on 75 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: TV saying the serp was overrated and it has been. 76 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: Semi finalist Ben Shelton has taken the Grand slams on 77 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: court interviewers to task for disrest spectful to players and 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: complaining about the negativity. There have been numerous comments about 79 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: the interviews and commentary. Clearly the objective this year from 80 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: Australia Tennis was to get people engaged in watching by 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: being entertaining throwing some banter around, rather than treating these 82 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: athletes as serious sports people, and I can see how 83 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: it irks. Some of the interviews have been an utter 84 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 2: waste of time. They could have hit a better balance. 85 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you can't take yourself too seriously. 86 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: Sometimes in life you just have to grin and bear 87 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: the cringey dad jokes and move on. The crowd was 88 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: also happy to add to the unrulely atmosphere. I don't 89 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: know the booing really gets to me. It is not 90 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: a WWE match for crying out loud. Can't help but 91 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: think Danielle Collins had the right idea. Throw it right 92 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: back at the crowd. Provide the entertainment fact that sports 93 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: audiences love these days. Take the money, go on a 94 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: five star holiday and let it go. It is eleven 95 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: past five. You're with early edition. 96 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: Separating the fact from the fiction. Can't spill edition with 97 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: one route. Make your property search simple. 98 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: News Dogs EV thirteen past five. The government's announced an 99 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: overhaul of seven Crown Research institutes. They'll be merged into 100 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: three public research organizations and a fourth PROS will be 101 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: established to focus on advanced technology. Government agency Callahan Innovation 102 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: will be shut down as part of the reforms. Using 103 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: the Association of Scientists co president, doctor Lucy Stewart joins me. Now, 104 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: thanks for your time, Lucy, good to be here. Is 105 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: this a good idea? 106 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 4: So, broadly speaking, the idea of merging the SAIS is 107 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: a good idea. People have known for a really long 108 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: time that there is really unhealthy competition between the so 109 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 4: our eyes because they kind of have commercial requirements to 110 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 4: make money and they have some obile aps that they've 111 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: been competing for resources. So I think this will be 112 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: beneficial in disregard. However, without knowing you know, quite a 113 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 4: lot more detail, this could just end up being shuffling 114 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 4: with Dicchent on the Titanic. Given the state the science 115 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 4: is currently in. 116 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: Right, so potentially bit of value for money, but we're 117 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: not entirely sure what we might get out of it. 118 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 4: Well done for anything, I want to focus on, because 119 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: that's something that came up a lot in the government's announcement. 120 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 4: But the reality is, and so Peter Blackman's report that 121 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: was released yesterday emphasizes this. Our science system has been 122 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 4: desperately underfunded for thirty or forty years now. So the 123 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 4: idea that we're going to have sort of champagne science 124 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 4: on a be a budget by just you know, merging 125 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: some organizations to get better value for money is not 126 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: particularly realistic. 127 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: What were these seven institutes doing that was so valuable? 128 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: So these seven and students do a range of science. 129 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: You've got Gens for example, does earth science, so they're 130 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: studying things like you know, earthquakes and tsunamis. You've got 131 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: kneewhere doing marine science. Scion look at forestry ag research 132 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 4: and Pliant and Food are both looking at sort of 133 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 4: productions i A research and more focused on pastoral and 134 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: clime and food and more focused on you know, plants 135 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 4: and foods, auto culture, and but all of them are 136 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: doing a range of science between stuff that's commercial, you know, 137 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: commercially valuable for industries we have in New Zealand, and 138 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 4: also public good science. So that's science where you know, 139 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 4: it doesn't necessarily creative products you can sell, but we 140 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: still need to do it for the benefit of our country. 141 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: So if you think particularly about stuff like natural disasters, 142 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: studying natural disasters doesn't necessarily create a product you can sell, 143 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: but it gives this information that's really important in reducing 144 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: our risks so that when there is a natural disaster 145 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 4: there's less damage and less loss of life. 146 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: So, Lucy, you're concerned that there's too much of a 147 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: sort of a focus on the commercial benefits and the 148 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: commercializations of science and technology rather than that, you know, 149 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: providing good public public goods science. 150 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to have a balance, so I think 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: so Peter Glegman's report is that, you know, it's really 152 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: well considered and it kind of establishes there's four different 153 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 4: main areas of government funded science. There's public good science, 154 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: like we'll discuss. There's science that you know, just generates knowledge, 155 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: and that's science where we don't, you know, really know 156 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: what it's going to do, but having that knowledge leads 157 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: to ideas that turn into public good science or commercial 158 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: science down the line. And you also have science which 159 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: is directly informing policy. So that's when the government kind 160 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: of knows things that's doing and they need they need 161 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 4: work done to support the policy work they're doing. So 162 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: that's four different areas of science, and this announcement focuses 163 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: entirely on the last one, the commercial or is the 164 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 4: report called it exploitable science, and it really feels like 165 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: it's at the expense of the other three. But they're 166 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: all important in the level. 167 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so will we still produce quality science this way? 168 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 4: We will produce quality science this way if we are 169 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: focused on growing a well funded science system that supports 170 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: good scientists to do their work. And what we know 171 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: is that over the last year we've lost around five 172 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 4: hundred jobs from the government science system. So I'm really 173 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: I'm kind of really surprised to see the government in 174 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 4: this announcement. They're saying things like, you want to attract 175 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 4: skilled people to New Zealand. Well, if we could stop 176 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: making skilled people redundant and having them leave New Zealand first, 177 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: that would be a fantastic start. 178 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: Doctor Lucy Stewart, thanks for your thoughts this moment, your 179 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: thoughts this morning and talking us through that. Dr Stewart 180 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: is the New Zealand Association of Scientists co president. Right, 181 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: we're going to amp up tourism, but is the country 182 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: ready for more tourists. We're going to talk about that next. 183 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: It is eighteen past five. 184 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: First with News, First with Views. It's earlier this year 185 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: with one roof make your Property search simple. Newstalk said, 186 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: be good. 187 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: To have you with us. It's five twenty with tourism 188 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: starting to make a comeback, calls for the government to 189 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 2: get its checkbook ready if it plans to welcome more 190 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: tourists to our shores. Just over three hundred and twenty 191 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: one thousand tourists came to the country in November. That's 192 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: eighty six percent of pre pandemic figures from the same 193 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: month in twenty nineteen. The new Minister for Economic Growth 194 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: and Nicola Willis, has set her sights on a wealthier economy, 195 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: saying attracting more tourists would help to make that happen. 196 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: Queenstown mag Lin Lewis joins me, now, good to have 197 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: you with us. 198 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: Glynn, good morning. 199 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: Paid Tourism's bounced back in Queenstown pretty well, hasn't it. 200 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:37,239 Speaker 8: It has it bounced back pretty hard and fast post pandemic. 201 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 8: And I think we've which new heights over the last 202 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 8: summer seeing the amount of people have come over just 203 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 8: the last couple of weeks. 204 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: So would you welcome more. 205 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 8: Tourists, i'd Rocker Morris. There is a proviso that the 206 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 8: infrastructure to support and accommodate more tourists and visitors is 207 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 8: accounted for. 208 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: Your voting package gets thrown out a lot as being 209 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: the answer to everything. What else do you need. 210 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:13,239 Speaker 8: Look that sustainable investment in actually providing that sed infrastructure 211 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 8: that both residents and visitors use. I think that needs 212 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 8: to be really well thought through. And if that can happen, Yeah, 213 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 8: I think we have the capacity to have more to us. 214 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 8: But even the simple things like making sure that we 215 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 8: have enough let's say, air traffic control talent to eaually 216 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 8: to air functioning, airport investment, and customs security, those sorts 217 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 8: of things, because I can tell you now that having 218 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 8: an airport, an international airport here, those are the sorts 219 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 8: of things when I talk to my airport, we've talked 220 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 8: about our airport. Those are the sorts of things that 221 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 8: actually can get in the way of actually allowing international 222 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 8: visitors into the country. 223 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: Willis has hindered at making changes to visas to help 224 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: bring in more tourists. What do you think of that? 225 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, I actually do welcome that. I think there's actually 226 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 8: opportunity to go even further, especially in welcoming behind end 227 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 8: entrepreneur technology skill set. I think, yeah, that's a good start. 228 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 8: I've got a few more ideas that I'll suggest helming them. 229 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 8: She makes her way down here at some stage, and. 230 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: If you look at it, a little bit more broadly, 231 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: you know, not just in Queenstown's sort of situation, but 232 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: how can the government support the growing number of visitors? 233 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: Do you think across the country. 234 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 8: Look, my viewers actually sort out points of entry first, 235 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 8: so there's from my reckoning, there's probably four points of 236 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 8: entry Auckland ranked and price in Queenstown. When it comes 237 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 8: to international visitors through airports, sort those points of entry 238 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 8: out so the experience for the visitor when they first 239 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 8: arrive makes it makes and make sure that that distribution 240 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 8: outside those points of entry is as simple and as 241 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 8: easy as possible. So you regionalize extra tourism. It's as 242 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 8: easy as possible because last time they tried this, they 243 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 8: didn't do it and just clogged up. It just made 244 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 8: a mess of Queenstown back and let's say the mid 245 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 8: twenty tens, that's what we're really consumed about. 246 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: Glen. 247 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: Look, one, I've got you just wondering if you'd like 248 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: to comment on the Winter Games, which will no longer 249 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: be held in its current format kind of in your neighborhood. 250 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: It's a bit of a shame, isn't it. 251 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 8: Oh yes, so I opened it two years ago. This 252 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 8: is this one hurts quite a bit because obviously I 253 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 8: knew sit On before was passing. Here's a big player 254 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 8: in our district, and I think this one's things a 255 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 8: little bit more because of the origins of the Winter Games. Look, 256 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 8: I feel so sorry for Sam and Marty would have 257 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 8: been seem that year and made it to or have 258 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 8: been just such a hard decision to make given the background. 259 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 8: But those economic conditions indexed to the European currency for 260 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 8: prize money and entries and please, so yeah, real tough. 261 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 8: Feel really, I'm sorry for the organization and really disappointed 262 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 8: because it was a huge event for our district and 263 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 8: absolute and outside outside of the district as well. 264 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: Dan, thank you so much for your time this morning. 265 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. That was Queenstown Met Glenn. 266 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: Lewis the early edition Full The Show podcast on iHeartRadio 267 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks at Me. 268 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: If you didn't pick up on Christopher lux and State 269 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: of the Nation speech yesterday, the Prime Minister is looking 270 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: to grow the economy because the country desperately needs economic growth. 271 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: Just in case you missed that, Thank you, So I 272 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: am being a little facetious. Actually, I thought the Prime 273 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: Minister's performance yesterday was good both the speech and afterwards 274 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: during the press conference. Sure, he stuck to his message 275 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: like a self help guru trying to manifest an outcome, 276 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: but after taking a while to look comfortable or natural 277 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: as a politician, yesterday he sounded more authentic, like his 278 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: founder's groove. He's confident in the direction he's taking the country, 279 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: and he's not trying to appeal to everyone. For a 280 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: speech designed to set the tone for the year, he 281 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: did a good job. Last year we saw the Coalition 282 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: government repeal and reform everything from education to water and 283 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: health to greyhound racing. While there is still a way 284 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: to go with some of these, this year, the Prime 285 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: Minister has made as clear it's about dialing up the 286 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: volume on creating competition, allowing more foreign investment, and pushing 287 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: for government organizations to be more future focused. The Prime 288 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: Minister also suggested we need to grow up and shake 289 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: off our culture of saying no and start saying yes 290 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: to things like expanding the port of Todonger and more 291 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: concerts at Eden Park and unloading the dishwasher. Nope, that 292 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: was just me talking to my children. Laxon also use 293 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: the speech to make some announcements. The creation of Invest 294 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: New Zealand, an agency to attract foreign investment, major reforms 295 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: to Crown Research Institutes, and their disestablishment of the Callaghan 296 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: Innovation which, due to Collins bluntly said at her post 297 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: speech press conference, had had its day. The new announcements 298 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: are needed. National Party MPs have been sounding very well 299 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: media trained recently, sticking to their messaging, avoiding answering questions 300 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: with detail and you know, the drill. As a result, 301 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: they've been sounding a little bit empty. When there's a 302 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: lot of talking but nothing has really been said, it's 303 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: easy to lose interest. But what struck me yesterday was 304 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: how well the Prime Minister was across questions thronidom. Instead 305 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: of reverting back to the big picture, bland key messages, 306 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: he can often fall back on who throughout detail and examples. 307 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: There will be some pushback to some of his ideas, 308 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: such as mining and gene technology. Making money is one thing, 309 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: but many New Zealanders will still want the government to 310 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: balance their pragmatic approach with consideration and respect for affected communities, 311 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: the environment and the treating There is also perhaps wishful 312 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: sense from the Prime Minister that tax cuts lower inflation 313 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: and falling ocr mean New Zealanders can move on from 314 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: focusing on the cost of living. I doubt he'll be 315 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: let off the hook that easily rises and rents, rates, 316 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: insurances and other costs are still impacting household budgets. Making 317 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: New Zealand a great place to live in years to 318 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: come is important. Love me some vision, but that doesn't 319 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: mean we should lose sight of today. But hey, if 320 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: the Sight of the Nation speech is about getting out 321 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 2: the message, it's all about economic growth so we can 322 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: have better lives than got it loud and clear. Job done, 323 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: said what did you make of it? You can text 324 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: on ninety two ninety two you are with early edition. 325 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda on early editions with one roof, 326 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: make your property search simple news talk, said b. 327 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 9: Tax. 328 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: Good morning this early edition on news dog Zby. I'm 329 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: Francisco Rudkin filling in for Ryan. He's going to be 330 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 2: with you at six a m. This morning. Thanks for 331 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: being with us, and the next half hour we're going 332 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: to head to the UK and Europe for the reaction 333 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 2: to Trump calling on Europe to spend more on defense 334 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: to deal with the existential threat posed by Poutin and 335 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: before the end of the hour, Invest New Zealand. Will 336 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: it do the trick and help bring much needed investment 337 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: into the country. Thanks for your feedback. Hamish text to say, 338 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 2: morning team lux and speech was great. We need to 339 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: move on from the left lead victim culture. We could 340 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: do it and this is a great start. In regards 341 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 2: to tourism, somebody else suggested that with tourists on the rise, 342 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: why can't we impose a two to three dollar bed 343 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: tax to assist. Yes, this was something that councils have 344 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: put back on central government that they're really hoping will happen. 345 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 2: I know that alland counselors because that's how they're planning 346 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: I think on funding of vents in the city going forward. 347 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: So I presume that is something that Nichola Willis will 348 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: be looking at as soon as possible. Hey, thanks for 349 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: the feedback. Keep it coming. You can text on ninety 350 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: two ninety two. 351 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: Does z be. 352 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: Alrighty? We're head around the country now and Callum Proctor 353 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: is in Dneden and it looks like Queenstown Lakes District 354 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: might have some water restrictions ahead. 355 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 10: Morning you that's correct and they could be imposed as 356 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 10: early as next week if these hot dry conditions continue 357 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 10: around central Otago. The Council has issued this plea with 358 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 10: prolonged hot dry weather and high usage putting. 359 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 6: The area at risk. 360 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 10: Lug At Arthur's Point, Wanakahawa, Lake Hayes and Arawtown have 361 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 10: all been identified as areas using water faster that then 362 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 10: can be produced. The Council says if the network continues 363 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 10: to come under the strain, then these temporary restrictions are 364 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 10: likely to help safeguard water supplies, especially in the event 365 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 10: of an emergency like wildfire, and they say various steps 366 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 10: like having shorter showers can help avoid these restrictions. 367 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: Hard to complain about hot dry conditions. What's the weather 368 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: like indonedin Callum A. 369 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 10: Fine but partly cloudy, fresh nor easter, the high sixteen today, 370 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 10: thank you. 371 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: So much, cleishrewood as in christ Church and clear. Look, 372 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: there's concern for a swimmer missing from a popular beach. 373 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 11: That's right, Francesca. This is one of those stories we 374 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 11: never want to be sharing. But emergency services were called 375 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 11: to the spits near south Shore just after three yesterday afternoon. 376 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 11: What we know as police officers were blocking the beach 377 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 11: as well as some of the streets nearby. 378 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: There were at least two. 379 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 11: Young female swimmers sitting near lifeguards at the scene. 380 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: They appeared to be very distressed. 381 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 11: Yesterday, Coastguards some the volunteers were called in very quickly. 382 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 11: They were using two rescue vessels as well as a 383 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 11: jet ski for several hours, but were eventually stood down 384 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 11: after dark. 385 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 7: Last night. 386 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 11: Coastguard did tell our newsroom there's the search condition and 387 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 11: were considered challenging. There was a pretty overcast sky overheard, 388 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 11: as well as a one to one point two meter 389 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 11: swell and very poor water visibility. The search was suspended 390 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 11: last night but is expected to resume again this morning. 391 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 11: And the weather today, Claire, pretty cloudy with some early 392 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 11: rain as while southerly's dying out in the morning and 393 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 11: northeasterlies this afternoon. We will reach a high of nineteen. 394 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Claire and Max. Whole is in 395 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: Wellington and Max, the Merrial race comes into the spotlight. 396 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, a matter of months until the local elections. Now 397 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 6: the Labor Party truly stepping up their search for a 398 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 6: viable contender to Torifano, and we may have the answer. 399 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 6: Former mayor a justin Leicester. He was here in the 400 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 6: studio actually yesterday it seems like he might be the 401 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 6: guy he flat out told us Labor has asked him 402 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 6: to run again. A Leicester, meanwhile, has set up some 403 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 6: sort of Facebook page that purports to focus on the 404 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 6: positives in the capitol when he says there's so much 405 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 6: doom and gloom, which is very nice and tweed does 406 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 6: seem to have a deeper purpose. He's in the i'm 407 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 6: not ruling it out stages of his campaign. Current Counselor 408 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 6: Ray Chung, meanwhile, is the only candidate officially declaring he's 409 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 6: going up against Torifano. She has been a little wishy 410 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 6: wash she but is mostly committed to running for a 411 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 6: second term. But back to Justin Leicster, he was a 412 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 6: one termer. Of course, he lost a surprising election to 413 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 6: now New Zealand first MP Andy Foster. There was a 414 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 6: debacle revamping public transport that got pinned on him, and 415 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 6: we'll follow the latest, of course. 416 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: Got a gorgeous day today. 417 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 6: Not so gorgeous, not as gorgeous as it has been, 418 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 6: mostly cloudy after some early drizzled twenty the High Central. 419 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Max and Neiva dotty Man, who 420 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: is in the studio with us. Now, good morning, Happy Friday, 421 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: Happy Friday. We've reached this week, the week, first week back. 422 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: Well done, you feel I am. 423 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 7: I've walked to here and I thought, that's like Cheers city. 424 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 7: It is like heaps of cheers. 425 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: There's a taste. It's all my imaginary friends. They come 426 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: enjoy me in the morning. School, you've got no mates. 427 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: It's very very quiet, no mates, very quiet in the mornings. Hey, 428 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: have we got to the bottom of why thousands of 429 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 2: west Aukland has experienced this water disruption? Do we know 430 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: why this is so mainst. 431 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 7: No, we don't know why. We know not at this state. 432 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 7: But you know, like apparently water keys said that the 433 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 7: water should be back on by ten am at the latest. 434 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 7: So we do know that the suburbs this is Henderson Valley, 435 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 7: Gleneed and codyl and Sunny Vale, auder Tier, they're the 436 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 7: you know, the suburbs that are experiencing all these issues. 437 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 7: But there was about fifteen thousand last night, so that's 438 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 7: now down to three thousand, So that's pretty good. So 439 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 7: you've probably got no water or very very low pressure. 440 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 7: But I can tell you if you're waking up this 441 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 7: morning and that's you, you know. Pop on down because 442 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 7: the water tank is at Henderson Valley Road, at the 443 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 7: corner of actually Bought Road and Netherlands Avenue, also the 444 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 7: corner of Glengarry Road and Maywood Crescent. 445 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: Pop down your dogs, have a shower. 446 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 7: I'll get the morning. Yet does that be the worst 447 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 7: way you get up in the morning? You want to 448 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 7: brush your teeth and every shower. 449 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: And then you look at how much water's left in 450 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: that kettle and you go, well, that's all we've got 451 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 2: right now. 452 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 7: Until someone goes and see. If that was me, I 453 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 7: would just be all about me. Don't worry about anyone 454 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 7: else in your household. 455 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 2: Oh thank you? 456 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 7: What are you saying? 457 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: What about the weather today? 458 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 7: Well there'll be no rain this morning? Unfortunately, that would 459 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 7: have been quite good. You could have put a barrel 460 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 7: or a plastic container out there. It's fine morning cloud 461 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 7: there will be as few spots of ways of lated 462 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 7: afternoon showers twenty five still miice and warm and moggy. 463 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: You neither as always a pleasure, I know. 464 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 7: Will you be here next week? 465 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: No, I'm not. Oh sorry, it's just a one I'm 466 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 2: just a one week wonder. Me and my mentionary friends. 467 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: Next up after the UK Europe. Here on an early edition. 468 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of Mind 469 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. 470 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 2: It is fourteen to six and I'm joined now by 471 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 2: Vincent macaviny, our UK and Europe correspondent. Good morning, Vincent, 472 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 2: Good morning. The Southport killer has been sentenced. 473 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 12: Yeah, in the past hour he's been sentenced. This is 474 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 12: Axel Ruda Cabana, who you might remember last July killed 475 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 12: three young girls and attempted to murder ten other people 476 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 12: and injured many when he attacked a tailors themed dance 477 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 12: class just at the start of the school summer holidays. 478 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 12: It was due to be a long trial, but when 479 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 12: he appeared in court for the first day earlier in 480 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 12: the week, he changed his plea to guilty and today 481 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 12: there has been the sentencing of this Now he himself 482 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 12: acted out in court this morning, yelling saying that he 483 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 12: was unwell and that he wasn't being looked after. He 484 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 12: was taken out of court for the disruption and it 485 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 12: was felt he couldn't be brought back in for the 486 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 12: reading of the sentences. But he is received. Because of 487 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 12: his age, he cannot be given a whole life sentence, 488 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 12: the most strict category in the UK, just under eighteen. 489 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 12: But he's been given a minimum of fifty two years 490 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 12: in jail, which is the longest jail sentence for someone 491 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 12: under the age of eighteen we think that has ever 492 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 12: been handed down. At that point, he would you know, 493 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 12: face potentially getting to a parole hearing, but the judge 494 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 12: has indicated it's incredibly unlikely he will ever be released. 495 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 2: Vincent. How is the US responding to President Trump suggesting 496 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 2: that Europe needs to focus on increasing its defense to 497 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 2: deal with Pusan well. 498 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 12: As we speak right now, Donald Trump is addressing the 499 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 12: World Economic Forum in Davas, and he has been reading 500 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 12: Europe somewhat of a riot act, saying that they're still 501 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 12: not contributing enough to NATO, that they've got too many tariffs, 502 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 12: that they need to start making their products in the 503 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 12: United States, and sort of saying that they've gone after 504 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 12: too many US companies too much regulation, particularly citing the 505 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 12: tech companies of course, which he has a close relationship with. 506 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 12: But the other thing that he's said is that he is, 507 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 12: you know, blaming He seems to accept that Vladimir Putin 508 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 12: is to blame for the war in Ukraine, that illegal invasion. 509 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 12: He's warned him that Russia could face more tariffs, and 510 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 12: it's Plutin to de escalate it. So it does seem 511 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 12: like some of the overtures that Vladimis Lensky has made 512 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 12: over the past couple of years to Donald Trump have 513 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 12: worked to secure his favor, and the Kremlin has responded 514 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 12: saying they're ready for a quote mutually respectful dialogue on 515 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 12: the issue of Ukraine. So we do believe that behind 516 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 12: the scenes, the White House and the Kremlin are working 517 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 12: on some sort of summit between Trump and Putin, But 518 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 12: we might say as well, we might as well also 519 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 12: expect some proper dialogue later this year, perhaps a conference 520 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 12: or meeting of the three leaders as they try to 521 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 12: negotiate a ceasefire settlement. 522 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: Vincent to makea any Thank you so much for your time, 523 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: zibby eleven to six. Now, during his State of the 524 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: Nation speech, Prime Minister Christopher Luckson announced a new foreign 525 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: investment agency with the aim of driving more overseas revenue 526 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: to our shores. It's a model based on Ireland in Singapore, 527 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: and we'll see invest New Zealand become part of New 528 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 2: Zealand Trade and Enterprise, which will become an autonomous Crown entity. 529 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: Oliver Hartwich is the executive director for the New Zealand 530 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: Initiative and he joins me, now, thanks for your time, Oliver. 531 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 9: Very good morning. 532 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 8: You took. 533 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: I believe you took the Prime Minister on overseas trips 534 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 2: to see how a model like this could work. What 535 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 2: do you make of the announcement. 536 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,239 Speaker 9: I think it's a wonderful announcement because it's exactly what 537 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 9: New Zealand needs. And you're right, we traveled with a 538 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 9: Prime minister. We traveled with him to Switzerland and Denmark 539 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 9: when he was a member of our group. But we 540 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 9: also took another group to Ireland and we encountered the 541 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 9: IDA Ireland agency, exactly the model on which invest New 542 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 9: Zealand is now based, and so we saw how it works. 543 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 9: We saw it in practice, and from that perspective, I 544 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 9: can tell you this is exactly the kind of investment 545 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 9: agency that really makes a different that attracts for investors 546 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 9: to the country, and that creates jobs and opportunities. So 547 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 9: I'm not surprised that Christopher Luxen is the enthusiastic about 548 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 9: this model because we were too. 549 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: What's going to be key to its success? 550 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 9: Oliver, Well, the really important thing is actually that it 551 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 9: goes hand in hand with liberalization of our foreign direct 552 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 9: investment rules, because they are really complicated. We have made 553 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 9: it extremely hard for international investors to navigate New Zealand. 554 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 9: And so when they look at potentially investing in New 555 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 9: Zealand currently, they will find all these rules and regulations 556 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 9: and in the end they will ask themselves, well, if 557 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 9: it really worth it, I should be really trying to 558 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 9: jump through all of these hoops and jump over all 559 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 9: of these hurdles, or should be rather take our money elsewhere? 560 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 9: And often the case is that they said, well, it's 561 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 9: really not worth it. It's a small market, it's a 562 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 9: small country. New Zealand is not and must have in 563 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 9: our portfolio. It's a nice to have, and so we 564 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 9: rather go go somewhere else. And if we change the rules, 565 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 9: if you make it easier, if you make it more 566 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 9: welcoming to be here and to be an investor in 567 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 9: New Zealand, then they would consider New Zealand more. And 568 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 9: then if they also encounter the invest New Zealand agency 569 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 9: which takes them by the hand guides them through the 570 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 9: system and tells them really how New Zealand works, how 571 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 9: the country takes them, really makes that lending in New 572 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 9: Zealand a little bit easier. Then I think we have 573 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 9: a good chance to get way more international investment than 574 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 9: we currently have. 575 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: Oliver, how long do you think it will take to 576 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: make those changes to the rules of legislature. 577 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 9: Oh, the legislative changes are easy. You could basically do 578 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 9: them almost overnight. But you have to create an agency, 579 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 9: and you have to create an agency with a right mindset. 580 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 9: We have New Zealand Trade and Investor of course right now, 581 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 9: and that is part of their role also right now 582 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,239 Speaker 9: to attract international investors. But the mindset so far has 583 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 9: been to are always be a bit careful, really emphasize 584 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 9: the risks and really make sure that we are getting 585 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 9: the right kind of investors. We have to turn the 586 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 9: mindset into something that really wants investors. I mean that's 587 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 9: what Ireland's done. Ireland at one stage decided they no 588 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 9: longer wanted to be the poor house of Europe, and 589 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 9: then they had this mindset to really get cracking and 590 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 9: really change things and attract investors. And we have to 591 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 9: do exactly the same, so Oliver, how. 592 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: Soon do you expect it to start drawing in more 593 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: overseas investment. 594 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 9: I hope within the next month. I mean, the signal 595 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 9: that I'm going to sending out is positive. The signal 596 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 9: to the world is we are open for business. We 597 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 9: want you here. And that's quite a change of mindset, 598 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 9: and I think if we continued on that path, that 599 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 9: change could happen quite quickly. 600 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: And look, as you've been traveling to Singapore and Ireland, 601 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: anything did you pick up on anything we need to 602 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: be aware of to you know that potentially you know 603 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: might be wrong, or we addressed sort of any issues 604 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: that may arise. 605 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 9: No, I think what we have to do is actually 606 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 9: we just have to make the case. We have to 607 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 9: explain that this is worthwhile. I can tell you one 608 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 9: experience we had in Ireland. We have hosted the Irish 609 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 9: Economics Minister at the time, and he told us that 610 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 9: he could not travel to a single place in Ireland, 611 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 9: not even the smallest village, without being asked by the lawcus, hey, minister, 612 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 9: what can you do to get foreign and into our area? 613 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 9: And then we asked, successfull would that happen in New 614 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 9: Zealand and the answer was probably not because here we 615 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 9: haven't actually learned to actually appreciate the benefits of foreign investment. 616 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 9: We always think about them as risks. We think about 617 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 9: them as becoming tenants in our own country, boards selling 618 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 9: out about losing control. The Irish narrative was different. The 619 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 9: Irish narrative was always what can this investment do for us? 620 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 9: How many jobs can it create? How much opportunity do 621 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 9: we get out of it? How much growth do we 622 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 9: create out of this? So it was a growth mindset 623 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 9: and that's what the Primeinster talked about yesterday. He said 624 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 9: we should actually think about what can it do to 625 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 9: make the economy grow, what can it do to make 626 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 9: New Zealand a better place? And that should be our 627 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 9: mindset rather than thinking what are they any potential risks? 628 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: Oliver, thank you so much for your time this morning. 629 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you. Oliver hartwhich is the executive 630 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: director for the New Zealand Initiative. It is six to six. 631 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: The latest from around the country and around the world. 632 00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: Earlier with one room, Make your Property Search Simple Stalks. 633 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: This is early edition in coming up at six this morning. 634 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: Ryan Bridges with you on the Mike Hosking breakfast, Good morning, 635 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: Good morn. We've got a lot of paper there. 636 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 5: I do have a lot of paper in front of me. 637 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 5: Now you've spoken about the Oscars and the nominations. I 638 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 5: have a problem with them. Why why is everyone making 639 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 5: movies that are three three and a half hours long 640 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 5: when people's attention spans have actually reduced, the movies have 641 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 5: gone increased in length that the Bruce list is apparently 642 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 5: three hours and forty minutes. 643 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: It's three hours and thirty five minutes. There is a 644 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: fifteen minute interval which is embedded in the film, so 645 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: you don't have a choice. It happens at about the 646 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: one forty mark. It is an extraordinary film. If you 647 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: love film, if. 648 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 5: You're extraordinary long, it's that too. 649 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: It's stunning. Look, if you're a discerning filmgoer, you're gonna 650 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: love it. 651 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 9: It is. 652 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: It is fantastic. But you do raise a very good point. 653 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: Why does Wicked a musical have to be two films? 654 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 5: We could annawl that and that's two and a half two 655 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 5: more than two and a half hours two films. 656 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: It's gonna be five hours, right. 657 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 5: So two and a half hours and you don't even 658 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 5: get an ending, but. 659 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: Look, I'm sure there's more important things to talk about, 660 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: and you'll be covering them off in the Mic Hosking 661 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 2: Breakfast at six. Thank you for having me this week. 662 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: I will see you on Sunday nine am on the 663 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,280 Speaker 2: Sunday Session. Take Care. 664 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 665 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 666 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio