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Speaker 1: So, if anything, tonight's meeting at the White House is

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Speaker 1: actually more important than Saturday's meeting was in Alaska, because

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Speaker 1: this is the meeting with Zelensky, right, this is the

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Speaker 1: meeting with a guy who has been invaded has to

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Speaker 1: spell out how much land he is prepared to give

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Speaker 1: up to Putin. And that is a lot harder than

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Speaker 1: what happened in Alaska, which was just Putin laying down

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Speaker 1: his dream scenario. And you can see that the European

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Speaker 1: leaders realize that this is important and is more important

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Speaker 1: because they're coming with Zelensky. You've got Keir Starmer of

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Speaker 1: the uk Amnual macronof France, Frederick Merse of Germany, a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of others, and they're going to be Zelenzi's

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Speaker 1: Zelensky's hype squad at the White House to try to

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Speaker 1: stop Trump bullying him, which is actually fair enough after

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Speaker 1: what happened last time. But I have to be honest,

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Speaker 1: I find Europe endlessly frustrating over Ukraine. I mean, here

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Speaker 1: they are dropping everything to rush over to Washington with

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Speaker 1: Zelensky to presumably stop Trump from taking too much of

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Speaker 1: Ukraine's land away from them. But where was this haste

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Speaker 1: in dropping everything and helping Ukraine to stop Putin taking

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Speaker 1: Ukraine's land away from them. These guys have, the European

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Speaker 1: guys have absolutely supplied weapons, but the spin when you

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Speaker 1: look at it, has actually been tiny. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: make such a song and dance to the fact that

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Speaker 1: Ukraine has to hold the line otherwise Putin will come

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Speaker 1: for them next. But then they hardly actually help Ukraine

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Speaker 1: to hold the line for a war that threatens them.

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Speaker 1: Germany has put in less than zero point two percent

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Speaker 1: of GDP, the UK much the same, France less than

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Speaker 1: zero point one percent of GDP. I mean, a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, you'll remember they had the idea of putting

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Speaker 1: European boots on the ground in Ukraine. They formed the

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Speaker 1: Coalition of the Willing, and it was all go, and

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Speaker 1: then it never happened. No boots ever arrived. Now, those

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Speaker 1: boots might actually have been helpful to Ukraine in being

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Speaker 1: able to fight Putin off. And so it is somewhat

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Speaker 1: rich that these leaders who are not prepared to actually

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Speaker 1: really help Zelenski hold the line against Putin, now suddenly

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Speaker 1: they want to help them hold the line against Trump.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they are probably right Putin probably does want

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Speaker 1: Ukraine and then more afterwards, and forcing Zelenski to give

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Speaker 1: up Land only delays the problem, doesn't solve it, because

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Speaker 1: Putin will just come from more later on. But what

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Speaker 1: other option does Zelensky have right now, because he cannot

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Speaker 1: keep fighting like this if Europe won't actually help him fight,

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Speaker 1: other than just giving him a few nice words in

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