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Speaker 1: Murray Olds is with us our Australia correspondent, Murray Good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Hi Brian, how are you going.

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Speaker 1: What's the public making of this tiff with the between

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Speaker 1: Turnbull and Trump.

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Speaker 2: Well, when he was Prime minister, and but long before

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Speaker 2: he was Prime minister, the worldview of Malcolm Turble was

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Speaker 2: that he thought himself to be the most clever man

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Speaker 2: in the room. You know, he's a self made multi

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Speaker 2: multi millionaire one time the Prime Minister, very very bright,

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Speaker 2: and you know he's entitled, I guess, to a fairly

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Speaker 2: elevated opinion of himself because don't forget he was the

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Speaker 2: prime minister who stood up Trump back in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: over a deal that Australia had signed with then President

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama. Now, for the life of me, the timing

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Speaker 2: of this is intriguing. We've got Trump about to whack

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Speaker 2: tariffs on allies. It doesn't matter anybody who he doesn't like,

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Speaker 2: bang on go tariff's notwithstanding in fact Australia has got

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Speaker 2: a trade surplus with the United States and we're in

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Speaker 2: the whole for nearly four hundred billion dollars to buy submarines.

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Speaker 2: We may never see Donald Trump doesn't even know what

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Speaker 2: Orcas is. So it's just intriguing. What's Malcolm Turbull doing?

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Speaker 2: Is he getting it? Is it a gets square with Trump?

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Speaker 2: Is he trying to puff his own ego up? Is

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Speaker 2: he trying in some way to intervene in the upcoming

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Speaker 2: election because Anthony Alberaneesian Company quietly behind the scenes, have

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Speaker 2: been lobbying like crazy to try and get Australia a

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Speaker 2: carve out from these tariffs for our steels certainly and

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Speaker 2: also hopefully the aluminium industry because they're worth billions of

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Speaker 2: dollars and exports to Australia. So what's Turbul doing? Just

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Speaker 2: is he got poking the bear sitting in the Oval office.

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Speaker 2: It really is intriguing. I don't know what on earth

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Speaker 2: he is playing at. I can tell you one thing.

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Speaker 2: The government will be going, oh thanks Malcolm for nothing.

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Speaker 2: And Peter Dutton has the Opposition leader now because he

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Speaker 2: wants to be Liberal Prime Minister, just as Malcolm Turbule

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Speaker 2: was Herbul's a bigger pardon. Dutton is saying, well, the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister has responsibility as Malcolm Turbull did when he

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Speaker 2: was PM to negotiate with a vent Trump administration for

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Speaker 2: an exemption on tariffs. Well, talk about throwing poor old

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Speaker 2: elbow unto the bus. So look, there's lots of moving parts.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure where there's going to land, but gee

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Speaker 2: is very interesting and great to heart. Turnbull just slashing

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Speaker 2: and burning like he's always done.

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Speaker 1: I guess it is. But as you say, the timing

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Speaker 1: is not great for you guys. Use you're almost playing

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Speaker 1: with people's livelihoods.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's very very much, so very much so.

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Speaker 2: These are important export industries, vitally important for Australia with

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Speaker 2: our biggest trading partner. I mean, come on, it couldn't

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Speaker 2: get much The States couldn't get much higher. And here's

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Speaker 2: Malcolm Turbull saying the Trump across the Pacific Ocean. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Hey, where are we at with cyclone Alfred?

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Speaker 2: Well, ex tropical Cyclone Alfred has withered and died just

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Speaker 2: about Blue Skies in northern New South Wales and south

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Speaker 2: southeast Queensland today. But look, there's still a heck of

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Speaker 2: a long way to go. As you might expect, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: the scale of destruction is enormous. You've had flooding, not

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Speaker 2: as bad as twenty twenty two but you've had a

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Speaker 2: lot of destruction, a lot of power lines down. They're

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Speaker 2: getting homes back as quick as they can. Apparently about

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Speaker 2: seven thousand left in northern New South Wales, and people

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Speaker 2: are being allowed home because the State Emergency Services has

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Speaker 2: lifted all the evacuation orders. But some people reportedly are

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Speaker 2: going back and they're getting onto doctor Google and trying

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Speaker 2: to work out how to restore the power themselves. Not

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Speaker 2: a good idea, according to the experts in the field.

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Speaker 2: They say't cut it out. You've also got cash payments

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Speaker 2: flowing from tomorrow to eligible people. You've got also damage

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Speaker 2: assessment teams with the insurance industry on notice over here

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Speaker 2: from the state and federal governments. Lift your game. Because

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Speaker 2: so many people in twenty twenty two were dudded by

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Speaker 2: their insurance companies. The governments are saying, you've got to

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Speaker 2: do better. If people take out insurance, they do so

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Speaker 2: for a reason, and that's to be covered in the

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Speaker 2: event of an emergency like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough too. Now it looks like this caravan

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Speaker 1: Tira plot, this is fascinating, was actually an elaborate hoax.

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Speaker 2: This is crazy, isn't it. I mean this I was

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Speaker 2: thinking before I came on air with you. How best

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Speaker 2: to describe this? I mean it could be it could

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Speaker 2: be a movie script or like a TV series. You've

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Speaker 2: got fourteen people in custody now charged with a total

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Speaker 2: of sixty five offenses relating to anti Semitic attacks in

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Speaker 2: Sydney the Eastern suburbs, mainly between October and February. Right,

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Speaker 2: So fourteen people, sixty five chargers. Two of the accused,

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Speaker 2: two men aged thirty one and thirty four, are the

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Speaker 2: alleged ring leaders of this. And I'm not sure if

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand you've got a thing called air tasker.

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Speaker 2: You can put stuff on social media. I want my

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Speaker 2: lawn mode or my hedge trimmed, and you know, you

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Speaker 2: negotiate a price and someone will answer the air task

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Speaker 2: a request and come around and do the job. Apparently

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Speaker 2: that's what these alleged crims did, these two ring leaders,

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Speaker 2: they put it out on social media. Anyone want to

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Speaker 2: do some jobs for money, criminal activity doesn't matter. And

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Speaker 2: you've got these other muppets turning up and willing to

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Speaker 2: go and fire bomb synagogues on the orders of these halfwards.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You've got.

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Speaker 2: One of the alleged ring leaders is a member of

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Speaker 2: a biking gang of he's not still he used to

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Speaker 2: be one of the heavies in the Nomad's Biki gang.

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Speaker 2: He is accused of a bunch of different things, but

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Speaker 2: masterminding these anti Semitic taxes the key allegation against him.

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Speaker 2: He's denied it. He hasn't applied for bail. You've also

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Speaker 2: got four of the accused. Interestingly, they were taken from

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Speaker 2: jails in Sydney to local police stations and charged yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: It just gets I mean, honestly, you scratch your heads.

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Speaker 2: And then what I've seen this on Telly Ryan. I

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Speaker 2: haven't seen it in real life until now.

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Speaker 1: Is this why? Because I remember when this first came out,

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Speaker 1: there was some criticism of Albanzi and the government for

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Speaker 1: not releasing the details earlier. If there was a terror threat,

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Speaker 1: does that mean the cops knew all along? That wasn't

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Speaker 1: it wasn't real.

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Speaker 2: The police knew from very early on that caravan was

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Speaker 2: a duck. I mean, here's the thing. Apparently, the allegation

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Speaker 2: is a couple of mouffets went on social media and

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Speaker 2: bought a three dollar caravan. You know, I just want

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Speaker 2: to care. They then went and got the allegation is

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Speaker 2: explosives from the mining industry so old they could vote.

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Speaker 2: Not only were they old and not designed to go

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Speaker 2: off anymore, they didn't have a detonator and they had

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Speaker 2: written a crayon, from the sound of it, a list

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Speaker 2: of Jewish targets in Sydney or synagogue at you know,

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Speaker 2: two Smith Street. Go and form that. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is the sort of level of intellectual rigor applied to

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Speaker 2: this alleged plot. These people are profoundly stupid.

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Speaker 1: Mary, Thank you for that. Mary Al's Australia correspondent, not

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