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Speaker 3: This is the Saturday edition of Weekend Sport on News

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Speaker 3: Talks HEDB marks the first autumn officially here. Happy birthday,

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Speaker 3: I'm Jason Pine show producer Andy McDonald. We are here

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Speaker 3: talking sport until three. Some big rugby news off the

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Speaker 3: field this week the departure of chiefs coach Clayton McMillan

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Speaker 3: at the end of this current Super Rugby season. He

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Speaker 3: is off to Munster. Is there anything that can be

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Speaker 3: done to retain more of our top coaches or is

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Speaker 3: this just effect of life in the professional game. New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Rugby's head of Professional Rugby, Chris Lendrum standing by

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Speaker 3: to chat to us. Your thoughts on this are very

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Speaker 3: welcome too. I kind of feel like Clayton McMillan, go

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Speaker 3: for it, mate. You know it's a great opportunity. He's

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Speaker 3: done really really well at the Chiefs without actually winning

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Speaker 3: the Super Rugby title. There's an All Blacks coach in

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Speaker 3: place with his team until at least the next World Cup.

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't CLAYT McMillan go offshore and expand his rugby

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Speaker 3: coaching horizons with perhaps the thought that down the track

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Speaker 3: position to be the All Blacks coach. Anyway, your thoughts

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Speaker 3: the South other matters around today, the NRL season nearly

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Speaker 3: upon us, worry as Raiders gets us underway tomorrow one

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Speaker 3: o'clock New Zealand time, and Las Vegas Rugby League writer

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Speaker 3: Phil buzz Rothfield with us live from Vegas after one.

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Speaker 3: Your preseason thoughts are encouraged as well, Warrior as fans,

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Speaker 3: Today and tomorrow are the last days where you can

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Speaker 3: promise and hope and expectation. Your preseason thoughts are encouraged. Today.

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Speaker 3: New Zealand Golf Open Ambassadors Ricky Ponting and Richie mccaugh

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Speaker 3: the Highlanders eventually. Thirty one twenty nine will cover that off.

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Speaker 3: Adam Peacock out of Australia in his regular slot as

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Speaker 3: well Live Sport this afternoon. The New Zealand Golf Open.

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Speaker 3: As mentioned also the final of our domestic women's fifty

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Speaker 3: over cricket competition, the Halliburton Johnston Shield It's Otago against

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs this week confirmed that head coach Clayton McMillan

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Speaker 3: Chris Lendrum. Chris, thanks for chatting to us. First of all,

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Speaker 6: Sure a pony, Nice to be with you again. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it was big news earlier in the way it wasn't it.

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Speaker 6: Clayton in New Zealand Rugby together with the Chiefs have

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Speaker 3: How do you balance the two things, losing our top

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Speaker 6: Great question, and this is a really good example of it.

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Speaker 6: It's very individualized. There's no one pathway in coaching. It's

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Speaker 6: we of course would have loved to have had Clayton,

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Speaker 6: In this case we felt collectively that the Chiefs have

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Speaker 3: Indeed, I want to talk a bit more about the

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Speaker 6: I hope not. As I said, there's no one pathway

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Speaker 6: so I hope not. But yet there are also plenty

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Speaker 6: The obvious example that people will go to, which is

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Speaker 6: I think the key thing for people to understand is,

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Speaker 6: it's definitely not the only pathway. In Clayton's case, sitting

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Speaker 6: That pathway is closed at the moment. There's only one

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Speaker 6: So you know, I think people sitting back and understanding

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Speaker 3: How do you show aspiring coaches in New Zealand the

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Speaker 6: Well, there are other Team in Black opportunities for our coaches,

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Speaker 6: he's coached the New Zealand Barbarians and most recently he's

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Speaker 6: so that's where the international side does come in. But

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Speaker 6: we do a lot. We work really closely with these

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Speaker 6: also how they see their own future. So again, you know,

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Speaker 6: the pathway as a concept, it can be very individualized.

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Speaker 6: There's lots of specific factors that go into anyone individual

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Speaker 3: Do you worry that if we use Clayton as an example,

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Speaker 3: he's traveling his pathway and as you say, he I'm

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Speaker 3: sure at one stage would like that pathway to include

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Speaker 3: in a different direction and he'll end up coaching the

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Speaker 6: I don't worry about it. I think it's just a

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Speaker 6: Look at Jamie Joseph. You know, Jamie had a fork

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Speaker 3: There's a bit of a mixed message here. In many ways,

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Speaker 3: Joe for Joe Smith? Yes, Look, I think if you

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Speaker 3: Good on you mate, Well thanks for calling into z

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Speaker 9: Yeah, funny taken point to your discussion on this an

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Speaker 9: excellence out of out of you know, that environment. And

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Speaker 9: so now I think we've seen the end of that argument.

432
00:28:25,827 --> 00:28:29,467
Speaker 9: I think Scott Robinson will prove it. He's by no

433
00:28:29,867 --> 00:28:32,387
Speaker 9: you know, he's no proven article at the moment, but

434
00:28:32,627 --> 00:28:34,587
Speaker 9: this season will be telling in that respect. I don't

435
00:28:34,587 --> 00:28:36,387
Speaker 9: think you will need I don't think that argument will

436
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Speaker 9: come up from this point forward. Pinting.

437
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Speaker 3: It's an interesting point you make, Jason, and you've you've

438
00:28:40,507 --> 00:28:43,427
Speaker 3: landed on one thing that is crucially important to coaching

439
00:28:43,467 --> 00:28:45,747
Speaker 3: at the very high level, and that's man management. But

440
00:28:45,827 --> 00:28:47,547
Speaker 3: the other part of it, I guess, and the reason

441
00:28:47,547 --> 00:28:50,707
Speaker 3: why international coaching is often used as a you know,

442
00:28:50,947 --> 00:28:53,427
Speaker 3: as a as a pillar to a good CV is

443
00:28:53,467 --> 00:28:58,347
Speaker 3: the experience of coaching against international teams rather than, as

444
00:28:58,387 --> 00:29:02,107
Speaker 3: Scott Robertson has almost exclusively done, just coached against super

445
00:29:02,187 --> 00:29:05,507
Speaker 3: rugby teams. Also that the wee can week out coaching

446
00:29:05,547 --> 00:29:07,827
Speaker 3: as opposed to international coaching, where you don't get your

447
00:29:07,827 --> 00:29:10,787
Speaker 3: guys until the middle of the year and you only

448
00:29:10,787 --> 00:29:12,547
Speaker 3: have them for a certain amount of time. There's not

449
00:29:12,587 --> 00:29:14,347
Speaker 3: a game every week, all that sort of thing. So

450
00:29:14,667 --> 00:29:16,947
Speaker 3: I think that's the reason why international coaching has been

451
00:29:16,947 --> 00:29:19,827
Speaker 3: held up, not necessarily at Munster, but certainly coaching the

452
00:29:19,907 --> 00:29:22,907
Speaker 3: likes of whales, et cetera, as a really important plank

453
00:29:22,947 --> 00:29:24,027
Speaker 3: on a coach's CV.

454
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Speaker 9: Well, it used to be that way when we were

455
00:29:27,187 --> 00:29:29,067
Speaker 9: the top of the pots and there was a massive,

456
00:29:29,187 --> 00:29:31,787
Speaker 9: massive gap between us and the rest. Now that everything

457
00:29:31,867 --> 00:29:34,067
Speaker 9: one house is caught up. Yeah, you know, having that

458
00:29:34,187 --> 00:29:37,747
Speaker 9: experience and beating the you know, the Northern Hemisphere sides,

459
00:29:37,747 --> 00:29:40,827
Speaker 9: et cetera. I guess you're right, you know, as a

460
00:29:40,907 --> 00:29:43,707
Speaker 9: massive puller to have on your CV. So it wasn't

461
00:29:43,787 --> 00:29:46,827
Speaker 9: I don't think so crucial before because we could We're

462
00:29:46,867 --> 00:29:48,747
Speaker 9: in our bubble down here and we just turned up

463
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Speaker 9: anywhere else and we're distration. But now that GAP's closed

464
00:29:51,507 --> 00:29:55,987
Speaker 9: and in some respects have overtaken us. Maybe you're right,

465
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Speaker 9: maybe that's more more critical now.

466
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an ever changing landscape. Jace, good to chat

467
00:30:01,947 --> 00:30:04,027
Speaker 3: to you, mate. Did Rastie Erasmus have a coach outside

468
00:30:04,067 --> 00:30:08,227
Speaker 3: South Africa before transforming? The box asks this text? Ironically enough,

469
00:30:08,707 --> 00:30:12,267
Speaker 3: he did at Munster in twenty sixteen seventeen. He was

470
00:30:12,467 --> 00:30:14,587
Speaker 3: he went as a director of rugby and then unfortunately

471
00:30:14,627 --> 00:30:16,747
Speaker 3: the head coach passed away while he was there, so

472
00:30:16,867 --> 00:30:19,187
Speaker 3: he took over and had a couple of quite successful

473
00:30:19,227 --> 00:30:23,267
Speaker 3: seasons at Munster before returning to South Africa. So the answer,

474
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Speaker 3: as far as Rassi is concerned is yes, Hello, Bruce.

475
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Speaker 10: Yeah, mate, Yeah, Hey. I think this is just an

476
00:30:30,587 --> 00:30:34,027
Speaker 10: example of like New Zealand as a whole, you know,

477
00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:39,427
Speaker 10: like opportunities and all walks of life you know, are

478
00:30:39,467 --> 00:30:42,387
Speaker 10: limited in New Zealand because we have such a small population,

479
00:30:43,227 --> 00:30:46,507
Speaker 10: and like you know, people go overseas all the time

480
00:30:46,627 --> 00:30:50,747
Speaker 10: for all sorts of different you know, work and stuff

481
00:30:50,827 --> 00:30:53,627
Speaker 10: like that, just because the economies and the and the

482
00:30:53,747 --> 00:30:56,827
Speaker 10: opportunities are there. And this is another example of that.

483
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Speaker 10: But it's it's sort of like a strength of rugby

484
00:31:02,067 --> 00:31:06,347
Speaker 10: where they have a lot of international opportunities for people,

485
00:31:06,747 --> 00:31:09,507
Speaker 10: and like, you know, you've just got to say, well,

486
00:31:09,587 --> 00:31:12,787
Speaker 10: you know, he wants to experience that, and you just

487
00:31:12,907 --> 00:31:14,947
Speaker 10: can't hold you can't stop them from doing that.

488
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bruce, I totally agree. And the good thing, you know,

489
00:31:18,907 --> 00:31:22,707
Speaker 3: we're exporting our rugby coaches. And I guess the difference

490
00:31:22,707 --> 00:31:26,027
Speaker 3: from something like in business is that the top job,

491
00:31:26,347 --> 00:31:29,147
Speaker 3: you know, in the eyes of most people, particularly New Zealanders,

492
00:31:29,467 --> 00:31:32,707
Speaker 3: is the All Blacks job, So you know that I

493
00:31:32,747 --> 00:31:34,987
Speaker 3: think they all hope that they'll do a big full

494
00:31:35,027 --> 00:31:37,467
Speaker 3: circle and end up back as the All Blacks head coach.

495
00:31:37,547 --> 00:31:40,947
Speaker 3: And Clayton McMillan, i'm sure is heading off shore with

496
00:31:41,107 --> 00:31:44,107
Speaker 3: that as a as ambition down the track somewhere.

497
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Speaker 11: Yeah.

498
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, I mean one of my I do hope. My

499
00:31:49,467 --> 00:31:54,347
Speaker 10: hope is that the stature of super rugby will grow

500
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Speaker 10: to the point where people will want to coach in

501
00:31:58,427 --> 00:32:02,947
Speaker 10: that environment, you know, and attract the top level coaches,

502
00:32:03,627 --> 00:32:06,307
Speaker 10: which we actually already have. I mean, they're the caliber

503
00:32:06,427 --> 00:32:09,267
Speaker 10: of coach that we've got at the moment at super levels,

504
00:32:09,307 --> 00:32:12,387
Speaker 10: actually really high it is, and I'd like to see

505
00:32:12,427 --> 00:32:17,067
Speaker 10: that competition grow and stature, so we're always attracting and

506
00:32:17,187 --> 00:32:20,867
Speaker 10: not necessarily new Zealanders, but just currect coaches in general,

507
00:32:21,227 --> 00:32:24,987
Speaker 10: you know, like to the competition to really improve that

508
00:32:25,267 --> 00:32:26,347
Speaker 10: area of the game as well.

509
00:32:26,547 --> 00:32:28,187
Speaker 3: Good Man, Bruce, I think that's happening, you know. I

510
00:32:28,267 --> 00:32:31,307
Speaker 3: think you look at the assistant coaching lineups at each

511
00:32:31,347 --> 00:32:34,507
Speaker 3: of these Super Rugby franchises and there's the ones who

512
00:32:34,507 --> 00:32:36,067
Speaker 3: are bubbling under. You don't have to look back to

513
00:32:36,147 --> 00:32:39,827
Speaker 3: last year. We're Scott Robertson basically pillaged every every Super

514
00:32:39,907 --> 00:32:42,587
Speaker 3: Rugby franchise apart from the Chiefs and took a coach

515
00:32:42,627 --> 00:32:44,987
Speaker 3: out of each of them into the squad. So clearly

516
00:32:45,067 --> 00:32:47,707
Speaker 3: that that standard is very high. Good to Jetty Bruce.

517
00:32:47,747 --> 00:32:48,107
Speaker 3: Thanks mate.

518
00:32:48,147 --> 00:32:50,507
Speaker 12: Hi Carlos, Yeah, afternoon, Piney.

519
00:32:51,267 --> 00:32:54,307
Speaker 13: Much gombling in your cord on this one. I find

520
00:32:54,387 --> 00:32:59,307
Speaker 13: it's a really positive thing my point of view, and

521
00:32:59,467 --> 00:33:03,987
Speaker 13: I saw like in a lot of ways, Sorry didn't

522
00:33:04,467 --> 00:33:07,387
Speaker 13: agree with that, because when you're saying the all black

523
00:33:07,507 --> 00:33:09,547
Speaker 13: you know, or whoever it is to make an all black,

524
00:33:10,027 --> 00:33:13,787
Speaker 13: you're physically there, yeah, sure, but not necessarily mentally. And

525
00:33:14,507 --> 00:33:20,507
Speaker 13: whereby he's over there, he's experiencing two types of things

526
00:33:20,627 --> 00:33:24,227
Speaker 13: mentally wise, and also how they prep and how they

527
00:33:24,387 --> 00:33:25,107
Speaker 13: play the game.

528
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Speaker 14: So I think that you learn a hair of a

529
00:33:28,067 --> 00:33:31,427
Speaker 14: lot over there, and I'm sure one day he will

530
00:33:31,507 --> 00:33:36,947
Speaker 14: come back and be or will put a best foot

531
00:33:36,987 --> 00:33:40,667
Speaker 14: forward and can be right of their contention. And that's

532
00:33:40,747 --> 00:33:42,787
Speaker 14: where the only thing I have against Raiser that he

533
00:33:42,867 --> 00:33:45,987
Speaker 14: hasn't done that. So that's a personal opinion, but I

534
00:33:46,147 --> 00:33:47,427
Speaker 14: think it's a bloody good thing.

535
00:33:48,267 --> 00:33:50,627
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a it's a no lose situation

536
00:33:50,747 --> 00:33:53,147
Speaker 3: for Clayton McMillan. I don't see how he loses out

537
00:33:53,187 --> 00:33:56,547
Speaker 3: of it. He'll only improve as a coach and he's

538
00:33:56,587 --> 00:34:00,827
Speaker 3: already bloody good, so it's a no lose situation for him.

539
00:34:01,147 --> 00:34:04,147
Speaker 3: And as far as our coaching stocks are concerned, don't

540
00:34:04,187 --> 00:34:06,307
Speaker 3: we want a competitive process for the All Blacks cod

541
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Speaker 3: That's exactly what we want, isn't it a raft of

542
00:34:10,507 --> 00:34:15,387
Speaker 3: high quality candidates. And if guys like Clayton McMillan and

543
00:34:15,507 --> 00:34:20,587
Speaker 3: others are going overseas to increase their stocks make themselves

544
00:34:20,627 --> 00:34:23,707
Speaker 3: a more palatable proposition when the role does come up again,

545
00:34:23,747 --> 00:34:27,227
Speaker 3: then happy days for the game of rugby. Here, good o, George,

546
00:34:28,267 --> 00:34:30,387
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. How are you very good mate?

547
00:34:31,827 --> 00:34:34,587
Speaker 15: Hey, At the risk of just agreeing with all the

548
00:34:34,707 --> 00:34:38,267
Speaker 15: previous callers and Erney Growth Chris Lendrin before as well,

549
00:34:39,587 --> 00:34:41,987
Speaker 15: I think it's yeah, it's good on Clayton McMillan. I

550
00:34:42,027 --> 00:34:46,307
Speaker 15: think that question about whether or not international experiences is

551
00:34:46,427 --> 00:34:48,427
Speaker 15: valued or not will probably be one answered over the

552
00:34:48,507 --> 00:34:50,667
Speaker 15: next four years, won't it. And if you put yourself

553
00:34:50,707 --> 00:34:54,507
Speaker 15: in Clayton McMillan's shoes, if the World Cup goes well

554
00:34:54,587 --> 00:34:57,227
Speaker 15: for Raiser, you would have to imagine he would want

555
00:34:57,267 --> 00:34:59,907
Speaker 15: to stay on for another term. That puts a further

556
00:34:59,947 --> 00:35:04,067
Speaker 15: four years into Clayton's thinking. And if it doesn't go

557
00:35:04,187 --> 00:35:07,547
Speaker 15: well for Raiser, then that overseas experience would come back

558
00:35:07,587 --> 00:35:10,747
Speaker 15: into the conversation. That would certainly favor the likes of

559
00:35:10,867 --> 00:35:15,187
Speaker 15: Jamie Joseph and the Ncodder and one no, potentially even Joshmut,

560
00:35:15,267 --> 00:35:16,787
Speaker 15: Robbie Deans who's still active.

561
00:35:16,587 --> 00:35:19,787
Speaker 3: In Japan, Tony Brown as well with South Africa too.

562
00:35:19,987 --> 00:35:22,107
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean even being able to reel off

563
00:35:22,147 --> 00:35:24,867
Speaker 3: these names, George, I think we're you know, we're like,

564
00:35:25,107 --> 00:35:27,027
Speaker 3: I know, it's different. It's different from when we talk

565
00:35:27,067 --> 00:35:29,547
Speaker 3: about players and we say okay, well, Richie WRNG is gone,

566
00:35:29,587 --> 00:35:31,867
Speaker 3: but we've got Boden barred and Damien McKenzie. You know

567
00:35:31,947 --> 00:35:33,547
Speaker 3: we can do We can do that till we're blow

568
00:35:33,547 --> 00:35:35,507
Speaker 3: in the face around all the positions in rugby team.

569
00:35:35,747 --> 00:35:37,827
Speaker 3: But the fact is there is only one head coach

570
00:35:37,947 --> 00:35:40,067
Speaker 3: of the All Blacks. Yes, there are super rugby head coaches,

571
00:35:40,107 --> 00:35:41,547
Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, there's just there's this

572
00:35:41,787 --> 00:35:43,747
Speaker 3: one job right at the top of the pyramid that

573
00:35:43,787 --> 00:35:44,667
Speaker 3: all of these guys want.

574
00:35:45,587 --> 00:35:46,547
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'd.

575
00:35:46,387 --> 00:35:49,387
Speaker 16: Actually imagine you'd have to think New Zealand Rugby would

576
00:35:49,787 --> 00:35:51,947
Speaker 16: would ultimately want some of this to happen. You know,

577
00:35:52,067 --> 00:35:54,667
Speaker 16: Clayton is probably a coach for them who was on

578
00:35:54,827 --> 00:35:58,187
Speaker 16: their radar and he's coaching well at super level, but

579
00:35:58,227 --> 00:36:02,267
Speaker 16: he's never coached against African teams on All Hemisphere teams,

580
00:36:02,307 --> 00:36:04,427
Speaker 16: so you would have to think they they would like

581
00:36:04,507 --> 00:36:08,467
Speaker 16: the fact that some of their coaches of interest are

582
00:36:08,547 --> 00:36:11,627
Speaker 16: coaching up in parts of the world that is getting

583
00:36:11,667 --> 00:36:15,867
Speaker 16: exposure to Africa. And obviously because they played that club

584
00:36:15,907 --> 00:36:18,787
Speaker 16: competition with Munster in the Northern Hemisphere as well, which

585
00:36:18,867 --> 00:36:21,747
Speaker 16: we know has been a comment of discussion. Now that

586
00:36:21,787 --> 00:36:24,627
Speaker 16: we play a pretty trend tess and Super commp.

587
00:36:24,867 --> 00:36:26,947
Speaker 3: Indeed, hey, good to chat to you, George. Better, We've

588
00:36:26,947 --> 00:36:29,027
Speaker 3: got to get to the golf, which I know you'll enjoy,

589
00:36:29,107 --> 00:36:31,827
Speaker 3: but always good chatting to you mate. Thanks. Indeed we

590
00:36:31,947 --> 00:36:33,507
Speaker 3: are going to take a break and then get you

591
00:36:33,587 --> 00:36:36,547
Speaker 3: down to Millbrook. But yeah, really interesting discussion. I think,

592
00:36:36,747 --> 00:36:37,987
Speaker 3: just to put a little bit of a cap on it,

593
00:36:38,747 --> 00:36:41,467
Speaker 3: what New Zealand and Rugby will have when the role

594
00:36:41,587 --> 00:36:46,427
Speaker 3: is next available is a high quality field of candidates

595
00:36:47,227 --> 00:36:50,307
Speaker 3: and Clayton McMillan will be in that field of candidates

596
00:36:50,627 --> 00:36:53,187
Speaker 3: as well. A number of the coaches that George George

597
00:36:53,547 --> 00:36:56,947
Speaker 3: just mentioned. Look if they hate to make the appointment today,

598
00:36:58,467 --> 00:37:01,507
Speaker 3: if they won't, but if Scott Robertson somehow, you know,

599
00:37:01,747 --> 00:37:05,187
Speaker 3: couldn't do the job anymore, there's already an elite list

600
00:37:05,227 --> 00:37:08,947
Speaker 3: of candidates today. So four years down the track, eight

601
00:37:09,027 --> 00:37:12,027
Speaker 3: years down the track, as more and more coaches develop themselves,

602
00:37:12,787 --> 00:37:14,467
Speaker 3: it's going to be an even stronger Paul, isn't it?

603
00:37:15,307 --> 00:37:16,867
Speaker 3: Fourteen to one. We're at the golf after this.

604
00:37:17,707 --> 00:37:21,787
Speaker 1: The Tough Questions after Turf Weekend Sport with Jason Pine

605
00:37:21,867 --> 00:37:27,347
Speaker 1: and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builders coming

606
00:37:27,387 --> 00:37:27,907
Speaker 1: up ten to one.

607
00:37:27,987 --> 00:37:29,467
Speaker 3: Let's get you to the one hundred and fourth New

608
00:37:29,547 --> 00:37:34,267
Speaker 3: Zealand Golf Open at Millbrook in Queenstown. Andrew Ortison is

609
00:37:34,867 --> 00:37:38,107
Speaker 3: our man in Millbrook. You've always been good at painting

610
00:37:38,227 --> 00:37:41,507
Speaker 3: word pictures alders. So what are you seeing as you

611
00:37:41,627 --> 00:37:42,867
Speaker 3: look around you there today?

612
00:37:44,107 --> 00:37:47,947
Speaker 17: Well, no pressure there piles, but I'm just nestled under

613
00:37:48,507 --> 00:37:52,387
Speaker 17: a weeping willow here in the shade. All I can

614
00:37:52,467 --> 00:37:56,347
Speaker 17: see is like shists in native timbers in the distance,

615
00:37:56,507 --> 00:38:00,867
Speaker 17: just in iron planning sort of railings and stuff players

616
00:38:00,907 --> 00:38:03,947
Speaker 17: and of course course looking beautiful, lush or you know,

617
00:38:04,227 --> 00:38:06,907
Speaker 17: true greens that've done it from I mean this job.

618
00:38:06,987 --> 00:38:08,387
Speaker 10: Have the curators and.

619
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Speaker 17: Hundreds and hundreds of people milling about here just enjoying

620
00:38:13,747 --> 00:38:15,827
Speaker 17: the third round of as you say, one hundred and

621
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Speaker 17: fourth news in it.

622
00:38:16,507 --> 00:38:18,467
Speaker 3: Open, wonderful stuff. All right, Let's talk about some of

623
00:38:18,507 --> 00:38:20,187
Speaker 3: the golfers nearer the top of the leaderboard. I know

624
00:38:20,307 --> 00:38:22,387
Speaker 3: some of them are only early in their rounds or

625
00:38:22,427 --> 00:38:24,867
Speaker 3: maybe not having even teed off yet, but I see

626
00:38:25,107 --> 00:38:27,267
Speaker 3: the key we Sam Jones is tearing it up in

627
00:38:27,347 --> 00:38:27,907
Speaker 3: the third round.

628
00:38:28,627 --> 00:38:33,107
Speaker 17: Well foreman news for European Tour player Sam Jones has

629
00:38:33,267 --> 00:38:36,867
Speaker 17: absolutely dominated so far, just looking at the most recent score,

630
00:38:36,947 --> 00:38:39,227
Speaker 17: but he's twelve under now. So this five off the lead,

631
00:38:39,347 --> 00:38:41,947
Speaker 17: albeit a good intact cole career, hasn't teed off. He's

632
00:38:42,027 --> 00:38:43,667
Speaker 17: due to tea off right on the top of the hour.

633
00:38:44,507 --> 00:38:48,347
Speaker 17: But Jones now the leading New Zealander. He's basically been

634
00:38:48,427 --> 00:38:51,147
Speaker 17: firing Birdie's left, right and CenTra. He's made the most

635
00:38:51,187 --> 00:38:53,667
Speaker 17: of his calm because it's some slightly overcast here. There's

636
00:38:53,707 --> 00:38:56,267
Speaker 17: some scattered range forecasts for later in the Arsenoon pinety,

637
00:38:56,387 --> 00:38:59,507
Speaker 17: but it's almost did still again and has been for

638
00:38:59,547 --> 00:39:01,067
Speaker 17: the first two rounds and that's why we've seen these

639
00:39:01,107 --> 00:39:04,467
Speaker 17: low scores. Of course, looking at the course record seat

640
00:39:04,507 --> 00:39:07,907
Speaker 17: by Daniel Nisbet seven out of the card in twenty eighteen,

641
00:39:07,947 --> 00:39:10,547
Speaker 17: could be under threat as the tournament advances, but of

642
00:39:10,587 --> 00:39:13,347
Speaker 17: course Michael Henry and Josh Gary also in the max

643
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Speaker 17: as well ten under, but they've just started their rounds

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Speaker 17: for the day.

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Speaker 3: I was just going to ask you about the low scoring,

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Speaker 3: and these predictions are always fraught with peril. But if

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Speaker 3: you're seventeen under through two rounds, then I mean thirty

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Speaker 3: four under not going to get to thirty four under

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Speaker 3: but you're right that course record is actually all joking

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Speaker 3: aside in danger, isn't it.

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Speaker 17: Oh, it has to be. I would have thought if

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Speaker 17: it's not good tac Co, it could be someone else.

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Speaker 17: Just I mean, we've seen the blistering round that Jones

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Speaker 17: is put together today moving his way up that leaderboard,

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Speaker 17: and others as well. Judity off. I mean James mkasaney

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Speaker 17: of the Australian was playing to a few of the yesterday.

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Speaker 17: He's at fourteen other so he's second at the moment.

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Speaker 17: Got three strokes back off that lead and due to

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Speaker 17: start out and there's no real change, there's no real wind.

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Speaker 17: It's going to build slightly over the course of the afternoon.

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Speaker 17: I'd expect more low scoring as the day progresses.

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Speaker 3: Wonderful stuff. Orders. We'll stay in touch with you and

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Speaker 3: get another the report from your next hour. That's Andrew

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Speaker 3: Ordison at the one hundred and fourth New Zealand Golf

665
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Speaker 3: Open at Milbrook near Queenstown, where the scoring is very hot,

666
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Speaker 3: very very hot. Kuntuco has Orders said, hasn't teed off yet,

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Speaker 3: but sixty four sixty one. He's seventeen under the card

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Speaker 3: through two rounds. Sam Jones, though the best of the

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Speaker 3: kiwis at the moment making a charge and as you

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Speaker 3: heard all to say, I think Bertie's left, right and center.

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Speaker 3: He is seven under for his round today through fourteen holes,

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Speaker 3: twelve other for the tournament five shots back, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: making every post winner in the third round. Sam Jones

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Speaker 3: the best of the Kiwi's much more to come from

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Speaker 3: the New Zealand Golf Open this afternoon. Seven to one

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Speaker 3: News Talks, heb when.

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Speaker 1: It's down to the line, you made a call on

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Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Hines, News.

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Speaker 2: TALKSBB forty one.

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Speaker 3: Last couple of texts on the Clayton McMillan issue. Rachel says,

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Speaker 3: I think it's great for coaches to get out of

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Speaker 3: the echo chamber of New Zealand rugby and developed their

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Speaker 3: systems and processes. There's lots for them to learn and

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Speaker 3: to stay free, innovative. Happy for Clayton. He'll be back

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Speaker 3: and better for it. Thanks Rachel. And this one says Piney.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if we see Clayton lead Japan

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Speaker 3: into the next World Cup. His style of coaching could

688
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Speaker 3: do wonders with a team like that. Well at the

689
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Speaker 3: moment there's no vacancy there either. But with Eddie Jones

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Speaker 3: in charge, as we know, things can change fairly quickly.

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Speaker 3: It'll be an interesting little period to watch with our

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Speaker 3: top coaches coaching here, there and everywhere. After the one

693
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Speaker 3: o'clock news, we're in Vegas where the NRL season is underway.

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Speaker 3: This weekend Top broadcast Phil Rothfield with.

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Speaker 1: Us the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

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Speaker 1: on and afterfields.

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Speaker 4: It's all on Weekend.

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Speaker 2: Sport with Jason Pade on your home of Sport.

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Speaker 15: One seven.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show. This is Weekend Sport on

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Speaker 3: News Talks. He'd be March the first. I'm Jason Pine

702
00:42:01,787 --> 00:42:05,827
Speaker 3: and a McDonald is alongside. Lot's happening around the place today.

703
00:42:05,867 --> 00:42:09,467
Speaker 3: Iron Man New Zealand's on in Towport. We'll get some

704
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Speaker 3: updates from there if we can. The New Zealand Golf Open.

705
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Speaker 3: Andrew Ordison our man at Melbrook. He's with us again

706
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Speaker 3: this hour. Halliburton Johnston Shield Final. You hear the update

707
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Speaker 3: from Wino during the Sports News. I can tell you

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Speaker 3: now it's one fifty five for three. Auckland batting first

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Speaker 3: against Otago in Dunedin, Maddy Green unbeaten on fifty four.

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Speaker 3: Currently Lauren down is at the crease with her as

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Speaker 3: Auckland build what they hope will be a competitive total

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Speaker 3: in this fifty over match. Coming towards the end of

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Speaker 3: the thirty sixth over one fifty five for three. Adam

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Speaker 3: Peacock from across the Tasman this hour also have a

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Speaker 3: look back at last night's Highland as more one A

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Speaker 3: pacificat Super Rugby match. More Ona Pacifica are oh and three,

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Speaker 3: but they don't feel like an ohen three side to me,

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Speaker 3: certainly not when it comes to scoring tries. That's one

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Speaker 3: hundred and nine points now in three games, so points

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Speaker 3: scoring not the problem. It's the leakage of points that

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Speaker 3: is the problem. How they're going to fix that. We'll

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Speaker 3: get the thoughts of coaching captain after last night's game.

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Speaker 3: If you were there at Albany as well, be keen

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Speaker 3: to hear from you, because I think there were a

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Speaker 3: few raised eyebrows over the choice of venue for Morna

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Speaker 3: Pacifica in twenty twenty five. Choosing Albany ahead of some

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Speaker 3: other possible options look good on TV. Look like there

728
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Speaker 3: are a few there began to hear from you if

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Speaker 3: you were in and around North Harvest Stadium last night.

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Speaker 3: But we're going to start this hour with rugby league

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Speaker 3: because the twenty twenty five NRL season is nearly upon us.

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Speaker 3: In fact, twenty four hours away. Were just under For

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Speaker 3: the second time, we have a double header in Las

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Speaker 3: Vegas to get us started this NRL season, and this

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Speaker 3: time it features the Warriors up against the Raiders one

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Speaker 3: o'clock tomorrow in New Zealand time. Just hundreds of fans

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Speaker 3: have descended on Las Vegas for this double header. The

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Speaker 3: second game is four time defending champion Penrith Panthers against

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Speaker 3: the Cronulla Sharks. Let's get you in to Vegas and

740
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Speaker 3: bring a huge league experienced and highly respected rugby league

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Speaker 3: writer Phil Rothfield, who you can read in the Daily

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Speaker 3: Telegraph among other publications in Australia. Phil, thanks for joining

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Speaker 3: us from Vegas. Are you a fan first of all

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Speaker 3: of opening the season in Las Vegas like this?

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Speaker 12: Look? Thanks for having me. I'm a massive, massive fan.

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Speaker 18: I think it's more than just about trying to get

747
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Speaker 18: a footprint into the United States, the world's biggest sporting market.

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Speaker 12: This is just a spectacular season.

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Speaker 18: Launch for the NRL when there's no other codes playing

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Speaker 18: or look, there's a bit of rugby union on at

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Speaker 18: the moment, but the momentum, the adrenaline we get from

752
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Speaker 18: event like this, I think was very much responsible for

753
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Speaker 18: the surge we got in NRL interest last year with

754
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Speaker 18: record TV ratings off the back of what we saw here. Now,

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Speaker 18: anyone at the FanFest last night down in Old Fremont Street.

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Speaker 12: I've covered two Super Bowls.

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Speaker 18: I've never seen so much fan engagement and excitement in

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Speaker 18: the streets in Vegas or anywhere else I be in

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Speaker 18: the New Orleans of Arizona, never see anything like it.

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Speaker 18: It is a wonderful, wonderful promotion of rugby league, and

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Speaker 18: it's never going to take over America, this great game.

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Speaker 18: But I think there's a there's a small space there

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Speaker 18: to you know, garner some more interest.

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Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like it's working over there. Plenty of

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Speaker 3: RL jerseys around Philly you're seeing, I mean, you're had

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Speaker 3: a fan of ent last night, so presumably there were.

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Speaker 12: Oh everyone's wearing a jersey. I'm about the only one

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Speaker 12: who's noted.

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Speaker 18: I wish I had Macranula Sharks jersey but I it's

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Speaker 18: it's and there's a lot of inn RL merchandise.

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Speaker 12: On here as well, you know, the official merchandise and

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Speaker 12: wherever you go.

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Speaker 18: And look, I was going to make a point of

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Speaker 18: this in McCollum next week in that there's a couple

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Speaker 18: of clubs who have been very reluctant to commit to

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Speaker 18: come here, and Shane Richardson at the West Tigers said

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Speaker 18: as much last week in the Daily Telegram.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know what I think about Shane Richardson.

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Speaker 18: I think he is robbing his fans of a dream

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00:46:33,867 --> 00:46:36,987
Speaker 18: time trip, once in a lifetime experience.

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Speaker 12: And I think every NRL club.

782
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Speaker 18: Owes it to their supporters to come across here in

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Speaker 18: the next five years.

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Speaker 12: You're Warriors fans just should see how happy they are.

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Speaker 3: I can imagine.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, And the Warrington and Wigan fans they m a

787
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Speaker 18: d they're all behaving themselves, but they're singing at the

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Speaker 18: top of their voices, and the the restaurants, the bars,

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Speaker 18: the cafes and everyone's just having this massive party here.

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Speaker 18: And you know what I think, you know, whatever the

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Speaker 18: television ratings are in America on Saturday, that they're going

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Speaker 18: to be better than last year. Because it's on Fox's

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Speaker 18: main channel, Free to Wear, not cable Free to Wear.

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Speaker 12: Fox main channel.

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Speaker 18: Last year back in Australia New Zealand, we got record

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Speaker 18: television ratings. They're confident they're going to grow, and then

797
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Speaker 18: new rugby league people are watching it. The AFL fans

798
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Speaker 18: back in Australia have nothing on, nothing on, So it's

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Speaker 18: a bit like Origin.

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Speaker 12: You get those once a year.

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Speaker 18: Fans will come in and look at the game and

802
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Speaker 18: rugby league could pick up new customers from.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about a rugby league because Penrith, the

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Speaker 3: four time defending champions, are one of the four teams

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Speaker 3: up there. They take on the Sharks. As I say,

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Speaker 3: your Sharks are in the second game. When you've won

807
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Speaker 3: it four times in a row, fill, are you automatically

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Speaker 3: favorites to make it five?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 18: Look, I'm not sure their favorites to win the camp

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Speaker 18: because again they've lost some championship players, haven't they. You know,

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Speaker 18: Jerome Lewi's gone and you know he's just a wonderful,

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Speaker 18: wonderful player, and you know they've lost Cricht in the

814
00:48:16,867 --> 00:48:19,147
Speaker 18: year before, they lost Kick out of the Year before

815
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Speaker 18: that and Matt Burton, etc. But They've got this wonderful

816
00:48:23,787 --> 00:48:27,987
Speaker 18: nursery of talent. We saw that while their team, their

817
00:48:28,027 --> 00:48:33,067
Speaker 18: first team was in Las Vegas, just arrived. They're reserved

818
00:48:33,507 --> 00:48:37,067
Speaker 18: great players. New South Wales Cup players put thirty eight

819
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Speaker 18: points on the Manly Seagulls and trial game. That will

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Speaker 18: give you an idea of the depth they had. They've

821
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Speaker 18: got Jack Cole playing on the weekend, you know, for

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Speaker 18: Jerome lewis a handy player. Look, I think Melbourne they

823
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Speaker 18: are entitled to be favorites because they haven't lost a player.

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Speaker 18: They've signed you Toy Yamanu from the West Tigers and yeah,

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Speaker 18: so I think the.

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Speaker 12: Path Melbourne titled. But Penrith are going to be desperately

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Speaker 12: hard to beat again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Storm and the Panthers are there the

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Speaker 3: two teams you automatically gravitate to, and I think rightly so.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel as though it's those two and then

831
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Speaker 3: quite a gap back to the chasing pack?

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Speaker 12: Yeah. Look, I think the Cranala Sharks.

833
00:49:20,667 --> 00:49:24,747
Speaker 18: I think that Cranala Sharks are next in line, and

834
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Speaker 18: only because of the X factor that Adam Vanua Blake

835
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Speaker 18: and all your listeners know what he's done in recent years.

836
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Speaker 18: Probably the premier front row in the game and nick

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Speaker 18: Al hines and has struggled a little bit last year,

838
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Speaker 18: but with the momentum that Vanua Blake will drive middlefield dominance,

839
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Speaker 18: I think Nicko's game will open up. His partnership with

840
00:49:46,707 --> 00:49:50,747
Speaker 18: Braden Trendle's a good one. Outside of Storm.

841
00:49:50,467 --> 00:49:53,107
Speaker 12: And Penrith, the Sharks are the most consistent side in

842
00:49:53,147 --> 00:49:53,507
Speaker 12: the camp.

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Speaker 18: They seem to make the finals or top four every year,

844
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Speaker 18: so look their a hope and I think they might

845
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Speaker 18: even beat Penrith on Saturday. Here Sunday your time. Only

846
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Speaker 18: reason being, I think the Panthers are a bit underdone.

847
00:50:05,427 --> 00:50:07,467
Speaker 18: They've got a few boys is able to clear. Are

848
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Speaker 18: you recovering from off season surgery. Is Al hasn't played

849
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Speaker 18: in the Charles Leam Martin had a little bit of time,

850
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Speaker 18: So it's probably a good week to be getting the

851
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Speaker 18: Panthers before they sort of settle in and get warmed

852
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Speaker 18: up for the season.

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Speaker 3: We've seen plenty of Warriors fans. What do you predict

854
00:50:23,827 --> 00:50:26,187
Speaker 3: for the Warriors as a Rugby league team this year?

855
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Speaker 12: I think it's it's going to be a difficult year.

856
00:50:31,427 --> 00:50:35,187
Speaker 18: You know, you've lost Sean Johnson and you've lost Chanel

857
00:50:35,267 --> 00:50:37,947
Speaker 18: Blake and look, I know you've picked up Fisher Harris and.

858
00:50:39,747 --> 00:50:44,547
Speaker 12: Look I think, look, I'm not expecting them to make

859
00:50:44,587 --> 00:50:48,427
Speaker 12: the top eight. But that's just my opinion, you know, And.

860
00:50:50,387 --> 00:50:53,387
Speaker 18: It's very hard to sort of make a prediction like that.

861
00:50:53,547 --> 00:50:55,547
Speaker 18: But I've just got other teams ahead of them.

862
00:50:56,107 --> 00:50:56,267
Speaker 11: You know.

863
00:50:56,427 --> 00:50:58,107
Speaker 12: Andrew Webster is a good coach.

864
00:50:58,307 --> 00:51:01,067
Speaker 18: He won Deli m Coach of the Year year before last,

865
00:51:01,147 --> 00:51:02,547
Speaker 18: so he knows what he's doing there.

866
00:51:02,627 --> 00:51:05,107
Speaker 12: He's got a very good staff around him.

867
00:51:05,907 --> 00:51:08,787
Speaker 18: Look, they need a bounce to the ball in my view,

868
00:51:08,827 --> 00:51:12,147
Speaker 18: a little bit of luck with injuries, you know, if

869
00:51:12,187 --> 00:51:15,147
Speaker 18: they're going to make the eight. But there's nothing between

870
00:51:15,227 --> 00:51:17,707
Speaker 18: them and Camra. It's really an even money bat here

871
00:51:18,107 --> 00:51:23,067
Speaker 18: on Sunday. Two sides that I guess are expected to

872
00:51:23,147 --> 00:51:27,227
Speaker 18: finish a bit lower down the ladder, but you never know.

873
00:51:27,387 --> 00:51:30,067
Speaker 18: There's always a surprise. Packer isn't there in the NRL

874
00:51:30,107 --> 00:51:32,827
Speaker 18: and the team will come from nowhere. And these two

875
00:51:32,907 --> 00:51:33,787
Speaker 18: sides are capable.

876
00:51:33,947 --> 00:51:37,227
Speaker 3: That you talked about James Fisher Harris briefly there obviously

877
00:51:37,747 --> 00:51:40,907
Speaker 3: Aden Vanilla Blake going out, James Fisher Harris coming in.

878
00:51:41,507 --> 00:51:45,907
Speaker 3: Is that some gain for you, Phil or you still

879
00:51:45,947 --> 00:51:48,467
Speaker 3: see Adam as the number one prop on the game.

880
00:51:49,707 --> 00:51:51,987
Speaker 12: Look at this stage of his career, I think he

881
00:51:52,147 --> 00:51:52,707
Speaker 12: probably is.

882
00:51:52,827 --> 00:51:55,627
Speaker 18: But look, I don't want to discredit James Fisher Harris

883
00:51:55,907 --> 00:51:59,267
Speaker 18: in any way, shape or form. And look, let's just

884
00:51:59,387 --> 00:52:02,067
Speaker 18: say the two of them are in the top three

885
00:52:02,187 --> 00:52:05,067
Speaker 18: or four front rowers in rugby league with guys like

886
00:52:05,227 --> 00:52:08,787
Speaker 18: Tino and playing Hals up at the Brisbane Broncos, and

887
00:52:09,547 --> 00:52:12,787
Speaker 18: so look, they basically cancel each other out, don't they.

888
00:52:13,587 --> 00:52:16,147
Speaker 3: Indeed? And just a finished show. You mentioned some surprise

889
00:52:16,307 --> 00:52:20,467
Speaker 3: packets and you're right, they always pop up and surprise us.

890
00:52:20,627 --> 00:52:22,707
Speaker 3: Any I don't know if dark horse is the right

891
00:52:22,747 --> 00:52:25,067
Speaker 3: word to use for but anyone you think might surprise

892
00:52:25,187 --> 00:52:26,387
Speaker 3: us as a team in twenty five.

893
00:52:27,227 --> 00:52:27,387
Speaker 19: Yeah.

894
00:52:27,467 --> 00:52:30,147
Speaker 18: Look, the team I fancy is going to climb the

895
00:52:30,227 --> 00:52:35,427
Speaker 18: ladder sharply is the Gold Coast Titans, and I like

896
00:52:35,507 --> 00:52:38,907
Speaker 18: their middle forwards. They've got Fred Tukemanu, you know, the

897
00:52:38,987 --> 00:52:42,787
Speaker 18: Queensland state of origin, so he may have had a

898
00:52:42,787 --> 00:52:46,707
Speaker 18: waker the the Queensland state of Origin front rower.

899
00:52:47,227 --> 00:52:48,187
Speaker 12: They've got Reagan.

900
00:52:47,987 --> 00:52:51,187
Speaker 18: Campbell Gillard, they've got Tino back, they've got for feeder

901
00:52:51,267 --> 00:52:53,787
Speaker 18: on an edge. I think they've got the quickest back

902
00:52:53,947 --> 00:52:56,227
Speaker 18: five in the competition. You know, we're Keno at the

903
00:52:56,347 --> 00:52:59,787
Speaker 18: back and Jojo for Feda and these sort of players.

904
00:52:59,787 --> 00:53:00,867
Speaker 12: They've got speed to burn.

905
00:53:00,947 --> 00:53:03,707
Speaker 18: And look, Dez has and knows all about the business,

906
00:53:03,827 --> 00:53:07,507
Speaker 18: you know, having terms you know in finance, and I

907
00:53:07,587 --> 00:53:09,267
Speaker 18: think they'll climb the ladder for sure.

908
00:53:09,867 --> 00:53:11,267
Speaker 3: Fel great to get the chance to chat to you

909
00:53:11,347 --> 00:53:13,307
Speaker 3: on the eve of a new season. Enjoy your time

910
00:53:13,347 --> 00:53:16,067
Speaker 3: in Vegas. It sounds as though it's everything you hoped

911
00:53:16,107 --> 00:53:17,507
Speaker 3: it would be. We'll look forward to catching up at

912
00:53:17,547 --> 00:53:18,867
Speaker 3: some stage again throughout the season.

913
00:53:19,307 --> 00:53:21,027
Speaker 12: Yeah, thank you, jeez, no, thank you.

914
00:53:21,107 --> 00:53:25,427
Speaker 3: Phil. Phil Rothfield, there well known rugby league identity and

915
00:53:25,507 --> 00:53:28,307
Speaker 3: Australia rights for The Daily Telegraph turns up on television,

916
00:53:28,347 --> 00:53:31,147
Speaker 3: has often consulted on his views on a wide range

917
00:53:31,147 --> 00:53:33,067
Speaker 3: of rugby league matters in Vegas at the moment and

918
00:53:33,147 --> 00:53:37,747
Speaker 3: by the sounds of it, loving it. There are mixed

919
00:53:37,787 --> 00:53:42,107
Speaker 3: views about this right. Taking an Australian competition to the

920
00:53:42,267 --> 00:53:46,147
Speaker 3: United States of America for opening weekend yeay or nay

921
00:53:46,227 --> 00:53:50,747
Speaker 3: for you? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Look,

922
00:53:50,787 --> 00:53:53,427
Speaker 3: they know they're not going to take over over there.

923
00:53:53,507 --> 00:53:58,027
Speaker 3: The NRL. They're not going there to try and usurp

924
00:53:58,947 --> 00:54:04,747
Speaker 3: the traditional American sports, but it's just trying something a

925
00:54:04,907 --> 00:54:09,827
Speaker 3: little bit different, a little bit innovative. I say this

926
00:54:10,147 --> 00:54:12,467
Speaker 3: often on the show, probably till I'm blu in the face,

927
00:54:13,067 --> 00:54:15,947
Speaker 3: but nothing should be off the table when it comes

928
00:54:16,027 --> 00:54:20,507
Speaker 3: to trying to get cut through in a crowded sporting marketplace.

929
00:54:20,547 --> 00:54:23,707
Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about the crowded sporting marketplace that

930
00:54:23,827 --> 00:54:26,347
Speaker 3: is the United States. I'd imagine you could walk down

931
00:54:26,547 --> 00:54:29,227
Speaker 3: the strip in Vegas and ask ten people if they

932
00:54:29,267 --> 00:54:31,947
Speaker 3: knew what NRL was, and you might not get any

933
00:54:32,507 --> 00:54:35,627
Speaker 3: unless you found somebody who was there specifically for this.

934
00:54:36,387 --> 00:54:37,067
Speaker 12: But that is not.

935
00:54:38,587 --> 00:54:44,147
Speaker 3: Uncommon and any any city in the world. I number

936
00:54:44,187 --> 00:54:47,147
Speaker 3: of times have come to Auckland to watch Wellington Phoenix

937
00:54:47,267 --> 00:54:50,787
Speaker 3: games pre this season, of course, and the uber driver

938
00:54:50,867 --> 00:54:52,867
Speaker 3: will you ask what you're up for? US Army here

939
00:54:52,867 --> 00:54:54,827
Speaker 3: to watch the Wellington Phoenix plane. They've got no idea.

940
00:54:55,227 --> 00:54:58,747
Speaker 3: Oh when are they playing? Who are they playing? Who

941
00:54:58,787 --> 00:55:02,427
Speaker 3: are the Phoenix? You know that's it's not uncommon. So

942
00:55:02,947 --> 00:55:05,507
Speaker 3: you know when the NURL aren't trying to take over

943
00:55:05,867 --> 00:55:09,267
Speaker 3: over there, what they are doing is is making a

944
00:55:09,307 --> 00:55:11,027
Speaker 3: bit of a splash at the start of the season.

945
00:55:11,147 --> 00:55:13,547
Speaker 3: And for those who have gone, I don't know about you,

946
00:55:13,587 --> 00:55:15,267
Speaker 3: but I've had a look at a bit of footage,

947
00:55:15,627 --> 00:55:19,947
Speaker 3: social media footage and and and others of some of

948
00:55:20,027 --> 00:55:25,907
Speaker 3: the spectators crowd fans who have gone in New Zealand

949
00:55:25,987 --> 00:55:29,547
Speaker 3: charted an entire flight over there, and those fans are

950
00:55:29,547 --> 00:55:31,867
Speaker 3: having an absolute ball of a time from what I

951
00:55:31,947 --> 00:55:35,747
Speaker 3: can see. And you know, Phil said about the West

952
00:55:35,787 --> 00:55:39,907
Speaker 3: Tigers top Brass basically saying that I went not interested.

953
00:55:41,187 --> 00:55:44,987
Speaker 3: I remember Cam George. We had him in studio, didn't

954
00:55:44,987 --> 00:55:48,467
Speaker 3: We had had Cameron George and studio last year, and

955
00:55:48,587 --> 00:55:51,387
Speaker 3: that was before they had decided who would be the

956
00:55:51,507 --> 00:55:55,867
Speaker 3: four teams that went this year for opening weekends. And

957
00:55:55,987 --> 00:55:58,827
Speaker 3: I said, remember I remember saying to Cam George, would

958
00:55:58,907 --> 00:56:01,947
Speaker 3: you want to go? I said, yeah. I remember Jason Parris,

959
00:56:02,787 --> 00:56:06,547
Speaker 3: head of the CEO of One New Zealand, the the

960
00:56:06,667 --> 00:56:11,267
Speaker 3: sponsor of the Warriors. I remember him texting into the

961
00:56:11,347 --> 00:56:13,227
Speaker 3: show that day and saying, look, Cam, if you can

962
00:56:13,307 --> 00:56:16,307
Speaker 3: make it happen, I want a seat on your sponsor's trap.

963
00:56:16,347 --> 00:56:19,067
Speaker 3: But I think he is there, Jason Paris Acually, I'm

964
00:56:19,107 --> 00:56:25,187
Speaker 3: almost certain that he is. And the Warriors. Today is

965
00:56:25,307 --> 00:56:29,547
Speaker 3: the last day you can make your preseason predictions. All right,

966
00:56:30,587 --> 00:56:34,147
Speaker 3: tomorrow no good? Well, certainly not after one o'clock tomorrow

967
00:56:34,507 --> 00:56:37,707
Speaker 3: because they would have got underway. So today is the

968
00:56:37,907 --> 00:56:40,947
Speaker 3: last day you can predict what you think will happen

969
00:56:41,027 --> 00:56:43,507
Speaker 3: with this team of yours. Do you think twenty twenty

970
00:56:43,587 --> 00:56:47,787
Speaker 3: five will be more like twenty twenty three or twenty

971
00:56:47,867 --> 00:56:50,227
Speaker 3: twenty four. We all hope twenty twenty three, don't we?

972
00:56:50,707 --> 00:56:52,267
Speaker 3: And we all thought last year was going to be

973
00:56:52,947 --> 00:56:55,587
Speaker 3: the building upon what happened in twenty twenty three. But

974
00:56:55,667 --> 00:57:00,347
Speaker 3: it wasn't to be very very disappointing season. A lot

975
00:57:00,387 --> 00:57:04,627
Speaker 3: of players gone, big players too, addam for Noah Blake,

976
00:57:04,787 --> 00:57:11,467
Speaker 3: Sean Johnson, Toahu Hawra, Masselo Montoya, Jazz Devanga, Dellan why

977
00:57:11,547 --> 00:57:14,987
Speaker 3: Tennis Eleasniags injured for the first little while. So actually

978
00:57:15,067 --> 00:57:18,867
Speaker 3: it's on paper a weaker team. But what do you predict?

979
00:57:19,227 --> 00:57:21,707
Speaker 3: I one hundred and eighty ten eighty and yay or nay?

980
00:57:21,947 --> 00:57:23,787
Speaker 3: The NRL in Vegas, what do you reckon?

981
00:57:23,907 --> 00:57:24,107
Speaker 4: Chris?

982
00:57:25,787 --> 00:57:30,587
Speaker 20: I'm all for it. So I know a few people

983
00:57:30,707 --> 00:57:33,947
Speaker 20: who have gone over this year from the from the

984
00:57:34,027 --> 00:57:37,227
Speaker 20: local and none of their teams are well, they just

985
00:57:37,347 --> 00:57:39,387
Speaker 20: wanted to do the Las Vegas trip. I don't think

986
00:57:39,427 --> 00:57:43,067
Speaker 20: it's so much as promoting rugby league in Australia, but

987
00:57:43,187 --> 00:57:46,267
Speaker 20: actually just creating a bit of a frenzy to get

988
00:57:46,267 --> 00:57:47,987
Speaker 20: a whole bunch of ausies to go over there, to

989
00:57:48,107 --> 00:57:52,587
Speaker 20: go to a new place, go to Sin City, and

990
00:57:53,067 --> 00:57:56,107
Speaker 20: it's the memory of a lifetime associated with the NR old.

991
00:57:56,107 --> 00:57:57,147
Speaker 20: It's great marketing.

992
00:57:58,227 --> 00:58:01,227
Speaker 3: One hundred percents. I totally agree. Look, if I was

993
00:58:01,267 --> 00:58:04,107
Speaker 3: a bigger Warriors fan and I had the means, I

994
00:58:04,507 --> 00:58:06,027
Speaker 3: that'd be the kind of thing I'd really look at,

995
00:58:06,067 --> 00:58:08,667
Speaker 3: you know, because we all love supporting our team away

996
00:58:08,747 --> 00:58:12,187
Speaker 3: from home, but away from home in Las Vegas, how good?

997
00:58:13,627 --> 00:58:14,147
Speaker 3: How goods that?

998
00:58:14,507 --> 00:58:14,667
Speaker 21: You know?

999
00:58:16,067 --> 00:58:19,987
Speaker 20: Go slam your child, your child's and the Harrison's into

1000
00:58:20,027 --> 00:58:21,027
Speaker 20: a poking mission.

1001
00:58:22,987 --> 00:58:26,667
Speaker 3: That's entirely a personal choice, an entirely personal choice.

1002
00:58:27,547 --> 00:58:31,267
Speaker 20: Yeah, and then go watch a game of NRL. Come

1003
00:58:31,347 --> 00:58:35,027
Speaker 20: back home. But I actually really like the idea that

1004
00:58:35,147 --> 00:58:38,187
Speaker 20: the NRL invited the Warriors on the second year of

1005
00:58:38,227 --> 00:58:41,067
Speaker 20: this because a lot of the players and the fans

1006
00:58:41,147 --> 00:58:44,347
Speaker 20: of the Warriors club suffered through COVID, so I think

1007
00:58:44,347 --> 00:58:47,107
Speaker 20: there was a bit of a testament to lift Vilandy's

1008
00:58:47,627 --> 00:58:51,947
Speaker 20: recognizing the endy clubs to let them be a part

1009
00:58:52,027 --> 00:58:52,147
Speaker 20: of that.

1010
00:58:52,387 --> 00:58:55,627
Speaker 3: So cheers to him, Cheers to him and Dave. Thanks

1011
00:58:55,707 --> 00:58:57,827
Speaker 3: christ Yeah. Look, I don't think you'd find too many,

1012
00:58:58,667 --> 00:59:02,387
Speaker 3: too many fans of clubs that that would say, you know, no, no,

1013
00:59:02,587 --> 00:59:05,667
Speaker 3: not for me, mate, not for me, I'll i'll, I'll

1014
00:59:05,747 --> 00:59:09,707
Speaker 3: watch my team here where I watch them usually and

1015
00:59:09,827 --> 00:59:12,387
Speaker 3: look not. Of course, not everybody can afford to just

1016
00:59:12,467 --> 00:59:15,827
Speaker 3: pay for a trip to Vegas, of course not Not

1017
00:59:15,947 --> 00:59:19,467
Speaker 3: everybody has the means with which to make.

1018
00:59:19,347 --> 00:59:20,067
Speaker 12: A trip like that.

1019
00:59:20,627 --> 00:59:23,507
Speaker 3: But for those who do, and for those who decide

1020
00:59:23,507 --> 00:59:27,267
Speaker 3: that they want to spend their discretionary dollars on something

1021
00:59:27,427 --> 00:59:32,067
Speaker 3: like that, what a trip. Think about the team that

1022
00:59:32,107 --> 00:59:37,867
Speaker 3: you support, be it rugby, league, rugby, any sport, and

1023
00:59:38,507 --> 00:59:41,547
Speaker 3: think about the opportunity to watch that team overseas, which

1024
00:59:41,827 --> 00:59:44,267
Speaker 3: is always the best way to watch your team. I

1025
00:59:44,827 --> 00:59:47,827
Speaker 3: have always said the best experience watching the All Blacks

1026
00:59:48,307 --> 00:59:51,707
Speaker 3: is watching the All Blacks overseas, because you feel like

1027
00:59:52,147 --> 00:59:55,427
Speaker 3: you feel somehow closer to the team. It's like we're

1028
00:59:55,467 --> 01:00:01,107
Speaker 3: in this together, and we're out numbered here, but we're here,

1029
01:00:01,747 --> 01:00:04,667
Speaker 3: and there's something special about watching the All Blacks overseas

1030
01:00:06,387 --> 01:00:08,147
Speaker 3: text here. What about the true fans that can't afford

1031
01:00:08,227 --> 01:00:10,387
Speaker 3: to go. Look, it's not a one off. You still

1032
01:00:10,427 --> 01:00:14,307
Speaker 3: get to watch the Warriors every week. You still get

1033
01:00:14,307 --> 01:00:15,787
Speaker 3: to watch them on television tomorrow if you want to.

1034
01:00:16,387 --> 01:00:20,067
Speaker 3: It's just like any other away game. We've still got

1035
01:00:20,067 --> 01:00:22,187
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of games that go media Stadium to

1036
01:00:22,227 --> 01:00:27,507
Speaker 3: look forward to. It's just something a bit different. Yay

1037
01:00:27,587 --> 01:00:29,987
Speaker 3: for me, says this one. Nay for me says Tony Yay.

1038
01:00:30,067 --> 01:00:32,027
Speaker 3: Yay Yay says this one. So yay or a on

1039
01:00:32,107 --> 01:00:35,027
Speaker 3: Vegas trip of a lifetime for lots of fans. Fantastic

1040
01:00:35,707 --> 01:00:40,267
Speaker 3: says Sally. Pre season predictions are stupid. Viva Las Vegas

1041
01:00:40,347 --> 01:00:44,987
Speaker 3: says this one. And Phil speaks a lot of sense

1042
01:00:44,987 --> 01:00:47,467
Speaker 3: about the Warriors and their chances this year, says this one.

1043
01:00:47,507 --> 01:00:50,707
Speaker 3: The simple factor is they don't have the quality roster

1044
01:00:51,107 --> 01:00:55,227
Speaker 3: to compete all season at the highest level. Injuries will

1045
01:00:55,547 --> 01:00:59,667
Speaker 3: kill them quickly. Well, I hope you're wrong, obviously, but

1046
01:01:01,067 --> 01:01:02,947
Speaker 3: I think we If you lined up this season for

1047
01:01:02,987 --> 01:01:07,467
Speaker 3: roster with last seasons, yeah, it is weaker man for man,

1048
01:01:08,147 --> 01:01:11,747
Speaker 3: but it's still a pretty good team. Really looking forward

1049
01:01:11,787 --> 01:01:14,947
Speaker 3: to seeing how Luke Metcalf goes in the halves with

1050
01:01:15,467 --> 01:01:18,627
Speaker 3: Chanell Harris, Tavita initially Roger too. We've asked a check

1051
01:01:18,667 --> 01:01:22,747
Speaker 3: over on the wing, see how he goes chance nikol

1052
01:01:22,787 --> 01:01:26,947
Speaker 3: klukstart in the in the one Jersey James Fisher, Harris

1053
01:01:27,027 --> 01:01:30,907
Speaker 3: and Mitch Barnett co captains a bit of grunt there,

1054
01:01:31,787 --> 01:01:35,027
Speaker 3: look on. I mean, at the risk of being a

1055
01:01:35,067 --> 01:01:37,947
Speaker 3: bit rose tinted about this, I feel fairly optimistic. But

1056
01:01:38,027 --> 01:01:40,627
Speaker 3: then it's easy to be optimistic when you look at

1057
01:01:40,627 --> 01:01:42,667
Speaker 3: the table and everybody's got the same number of points

1058
01:01:44,467 --> 01:01:47,467
Speaker 3: in about forty hours. That won't be the case, but

1059
01:01:47,467 --> 01:01:49,387
Speaker 3: at least we can dream for a little while. One

1060
01:01:49,507 --> 01:01:51,627
Speaker 3: twenty seven News Talks there b We're back with more

1061
01:01:51,667 --> 01:01:54,107
Speaker 3: after this line's open though. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

1062
01:01:54,187 --> 01:01:55,587
Speaker 3: eighty nine nine two on text.

1063
01:01:55,907 --> 01:01:59,627
Speaker 2: This is the biggest season sports are on Weekend Sports

1064
01:01:59,747 --> 01:02:01,467
Speaker 2: with Jason Pine and GJ.

1065
01:02:01,667 --> 01:02:05,107
Speaker 1: Gubnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks.

1066
01:02:05,147 --> 01:02:07,787
Speaker 3: They'd be one dirty on the dark News Talks. He'd

1067
01:02:07,827 --> 01:02:10,747
Speaker 3: be just to you know tomorrow between twelve and one

1068
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Speaker 3: so on the lead up to the one o'clock kickoff,

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01:02:13,107 --> 01:02:15,467
Speaker 3: New Zealand time and the Warriors game. We'll basically have

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01:02:15,787 --> 01:02:17,787
Speaker 3: a build up hour for you, going to get you

1071
01:02:17,867 --> 01:02:20,347
Speaker 3: inside the Warriors camp. We're going to talk to punters

1072
01:02:20,427 --> 01:02:22,987
Speaker 3: on the ground over there, some sponsors who have made

1073
01:02:23,027 --> 01:02:25,947
Speaker 3: the trip and others in Vegas set the scene on

1074
01:02:25,987 --> 01:02:28,787
Speaker 3: the ground for you. So between twelve and one tomorrow

1075
01:02:28,827 --> 01:02:32,467
Speaker 3: and weekend Sport it is all about the Warriors in Vegas.

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01:02:32,507 --> 01:02:34,987
Speaker 8: Hello Mark, hey bony.

1077
01:02:35,947 --> 01:02:36,907
Speaker 22: Yeah, I'm quite jalous.

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01:02:39,627 --> 01:02:41,707
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen some pictures I'd quite like to be

1079
01:02:41,747 --> 01:02:42,227
Speaker 3: in amongst it.

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01:02:43,467 --> 01:02:59,387
Speaker 22: Yeah, Exchange Pride, Yeah yeah, yeah, sorry, I don't know

1081
01:02:59,427 --> 01:02:59,747
Speaker 22: what they have.

1082
01:02:59,787 --> 01:03:00,187
Speaker 6: To do with.

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01:03:02,067 --> 01:03:04,147
Speaker 3: Hey Mark, I'm not sure what's happening with your phone mate.

1084
01:03:04,147 --> 01:03:06,267
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get Andy to check and maybe move somewhere

1085
01:03:06,347 --> 01:03:08,547
Speaker 3: where we can where we can hear you, because you're

1086
01:03:08,707 --> 01:03:10,787
Speaker 3: just cutting in and out. I want to hear your comments.

1087
01:03:11,227 --> 01:03:12,507
Speaker 3: So I just have a chat to Andy and see

1088
01:03:12,547 --> 01:03:17,707
Speaker 3: if we can find you a place where there's better reception. Jamie, Hi, Jason,

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01:03:17,787 --> 01:03:19,547
Speaker 3: there you going? Yeah good Jamie, very good mate.

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01:03:21,227 --> 01:03:25,187
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's a my eyes this week. Ind it's some

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01:03:25,427 --> 01:03:26,507
Speaker 19: Las Vegas.

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01:03:26,987 --> 01:03:27,307
Speaker 4: Love it.

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01:03:29,067 --> 01:03:32,907
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, Portunately, I can't afford.

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01:03:32,627 --> 01:03:33,667
Speaker 8: To go a bit of it.

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01:03:34,147 --> 01:03:38,627
Speaker 19: It's nice and everyone's having a bit of fun. Listen

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01:03:38,907 --> 01:03:41,467
Speaker 19: a cast where the team might finiss here hopefully around

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01:03:42,347 --> 01:03:44,067
Speaker 19: maybe seventh or eight if they.

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01:03:45,627 --> 01:03:50,827
Speaker 13: If they can you know, minimal injuries, animal suspensions and

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01:03:51,707 --> 01:03:54,107
Speaker 13: in a few and not being on the wrong end

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01:03:54,187 --> 01:03:54,547
Speaker 13: or some re.

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01:03:54,627 --> 01:03:56,667
Speaker 19: Marine course, I guessfully.

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01:03:58,067 --> 01:04:00,907
Speaker 3: Yeah, always the variables that come into it. I think

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01:04:00,947 --> 01:04:04,507
Speaker 3: you're kind of reflecting what most Warriors fans are thinking, Jamie.

1104
01:04:04,747 --> 01:04:06,947
Speaker 3: You know, there's the very optimistic and there are pessimistic.

1105
01:04:07,027 --> 01:04:08,587
Speaker 3: But like you and me Hon, a bit like you,

1106
01:04:08,987 --> 01:04:10,707
Speaker 3: I feel like if if if a bunch of stuff

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01:04:10,747 --> 01:04:13,307
Speaker 3: goes right, they could be in the eight, but it

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01:04:13,347 --> 01:04:16,507
Speaker 3: wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that they miss out.

1109
01:04:16,547 --> 01:04:16,747
Speaker 4: Again.

1110
01:04:16,827 --> 01:04:19,427
Speaker 3: That that's I know that's very much a fence sitting view,

1111
01:04:19,507 --> 01:04:21,347
Speaker 3: but it feels like quite a bit has to go

1112
01:04:21,587 --> 01:04:24,627
Speaker 3: right for them to finish high up the table.

1113
01:04:26,747 --> 01:04:30,587
Speaker 19: Yeah, and that meant, you know, obviously help they start.

1114
01:04:32,747 --> 01:04:35,467
Speaker 19: So when tomorrow they'll be, they'll be helpful.

1115
01:04:35,547 --> 01:04:38,907
Speaker 13: But yeah, it'll be a long year.

1116
01:04:38,947 --> 01:04:42,587
Speaker 19: But hopefully hopefully you'd be a good one indeed.

1117
01:04:42,667 --> 01:04:44,627
Speaker 3: Yep, Well, I mean I went tomorrow would be a

1118
01:04:44,627 --> 01:04:47,547
Speaker 3: great start obviously, that's you know, it goes without saying.

1119
01:04:47,627 --> 01:04:51,107
Speaker 3: I think they are favorites against the Raiders. I think

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Speaker 3: the Warriors have you know, I would have the favoritism tomorrow,

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01:04:53,787 --> 01:04:57,107
Speaker 3: I'll certainly be I don't put any money on it,

1122
01:04:57,187 --> 01:04:59,907
Speaker 3: but I'll certainly be thinking that when the game kicks off.

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Speaker 3: Jamie good to chat. I think we've got your back mark.

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01:05:01,907 --> 01:05:02,147
Speaker 17: Have we.

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Speaker 3: Much better? Much better?

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01:05:07,027 --> 01:05:07,187
Speaker 9: Ah?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, No, I think this could be quite a good year.

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Speaker 23: I think the backline for the Warriors is a pretty

1129
01:05:11,667 --> 01:05:13,547
Speaker 23: good side. I mean, it all depends how they go

1130
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Speaker 23: in the Fords. Obviously getting Fisher Harris, you know for

1131
01:05:17,187 --> 01:05:20,547
Speaker 23: for Nola Blake's probably maybe even like a swap for swap.

1132
01:05:21,187 --> 01:05:23,907
Speaker 23: But yeah, I mean Tahu Harris, even though he's sort

1133
01:05:23,907 --> 01:05:26,947
Speaker 23: of played injury with injuries from the beginning of the

1134
01:05:26,987 --> 01:05:27,947
Speaker 23: season last year.

1135
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Speaker 24: I mean, I don't know.

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01:05:29,587 --> 01:05:31,947
Speaker 23: Maybe they've got some maybe they can buy a new

1137
01:05:32,067 --> 01:05:32,787
Speaker 23: Ford or something.

1138
01:05:32,867 --> 01:05:33,787
Speaker 15: But yeah, I think the.

1139
01:05:33,787 --> 01:05:35,907
Speaker 23: Backline is as good as any It's just the Fords.

1140
01:05:36,787 --> 01:05:40,747
Speaker 23: But you know, rugby league in this country, I can't

1141
01:05:40,787 --> 01:05:43,307
Speaker 23: see why the NRL aren't putting that team down in

1142
01:05:43,387 --> 01:05:45,667
Speaker 23: christ Such when they get this stadium there, because I

1143
01:05:45,747 --> 01:05:48,347
Speaker 23: think you know, you've seen the support for the Warriors.

1144
01:05:48,387 --> 01:05:51,467
Speaker 23: It's probably the best in the NRL, maybe apart from

1145
01:05:51,507 --> 01:05:54,827
Speaker 23: Saint Brisbane or somewhere like that. And I don't know

1146
01:05:54,947 --> 01:05:57,987
Speaker 23: why we can't get another team, you know, I mean

1147
01:05:58,027 --> 01:06:00,987
Speaker 23: it seems ridiculous because I'd say they'd fill that damn

1148
01:06:01,067 --> 01:06:04,107
Speaker 23: stadium in christ Schouch every week they had the Warriors,

1149
01:06:04,227 --> 01:06:06,067
Speaker 23: just like Mount Smart. I think it would be great

1150
01:06:06,107 --> 01:06:06,907
Speaker 23: for league.

1151
01:06:07,027 --> 01:06:09,347
Speaker 3: Oh you won't get an argument from me, Mark. Look,

1152
01:06:09,627 --> 01:06:11,587
Speaker 3: you know, I know it's different, but the yeah, what

1153
01:06:11,667 --> 01:06:15,107
Speaker 3: Auckland f C's done to to football here, you know,

1154
01:06:15,427 --> 01:06:18,907
Speaker 3: the rivalry it's created in the derby already Unfortunately the

1155
01:06:18,907 --> 01:06:21,667
Speaker 3: Phoenix having a bit of a challenging time. But look, look,

1156
01:06:21,707 --> 01:06:25,587
Speaker 3: I think it's Yeah. The NRAL are funny, aren't they.

1157
01:06:25,667 --> 01:06:27,627
Speaker 3: You know they you know, they've got this team coming

1158
01:06:27,667 --> 01:06:29,667
Speaker 3: in from pop On, New Guinea. They want to you know,

1159
01:06:30,667 --> 01:06:34,147
Speaker 3: you know, I think they're thinking about Perth. They may

1160
01:06:34,187 --> 01:06:36,107
Speaker 3: well go back to some of the hot beds of

1161
01:06:36,667 --> 01:06:39,067
Speaker 3: rugby league. But I agree with you. I think if they,

1162
01:06:39,587 --> 01:06:42,347
Speaker 3: you know, if they want an expansion team, that's going

1163
01:06:42,387 --> 01:06:45,267
Speaker 3: to add something to the competition and really be all

1164
01:06:45,347 --> 01:06:47,587
Speaker 3: but guaranteed some very good crowds and a new venue.

1165
01:06:47,987 --> 01:06:49,227
Speaker 3: Then you would go to christ.

1166
01:06:50,307 --> 01:06:52,387
Speaker 23: Yeah, what's your tip for the night party? You reckon

1167
01:06:52,467 --> 01:06:54,027
Speaker 23: the Cans can get up over the Blues.

1168
01:06:54,307 --> 01:06:56,867
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I do, Mark, I do. You are playing the

1169
01:06:56,907 --> 01:06:58,947
Speaker 3: team that's O and two. We're playing the team at

1170
01:06:58,987 --> 01:06:59,947
Speaker 3: the bottom of the table.

1171
01:07:01,627 --> 01:07:02,947
Speaker 23: The table a bit like the phoenix.

1172
01:07:03,587 --> 01:07:07,027
Speaker 3: That's a market boy. I'm glad you coverage is cutting

1173
01:07:07,027 --> 01:07:09,467
Speaker 3: out again. No, it's not good to chet to him again.

1174
01:07:10,107 --> 01:07:12,347
Speaker 3: Have we got the weather report for Vegas tomorrow?

1175
01:07:12,427 --> 01:07:12,627
Speaker 25: We have.

1176
01:07:12,827 --> 01:07:16,867
Speaker 3: It doesn't actually matter because Allegiant Stadium is fully enclosed.

1177
01:07:17,987 --> 01:07:23,227
Speaker 3: But the weather in Vegas tomorrow cloudy with a high

1178
01:07:23,267 --> 01:07:26,427
Speaker 3: of oh that's fahrenheit, so seventy four about twenty two

1179
01:07:26,467 --> 01:07:29,587
Speaker 3: to twenty three degrees wins light and variable, so that

1180
01:07:29,667 --> 01:07:31,907
Speaker 3: sounds okay. But they'll be inside, so it won't matter.

1181
01:07:32,707 --> 01:07:34,787
Speaker 3: The weather is always beautiful at the bottom of the

1182
01:07:34,867 --> 01:07:36,907
Speaker 3: South Island or in the lower reaches of the South

1183
01:07:36,987 --> 01:07:39,387
Speaker 3: Island where we hid now for the one hundred and

1184
01:07:39,427 --> 01:07:42,507
Speaker 3: fourth New Zealand to Gulf Open. Andrew Ordison is our

1185
01:07:42,547 --> 01:07:45,307
Speaker 3: man at Millbrook. When we spoke forty five minutes or

1186
01:07:45,307 --> 01:07:47,667
Speaker 3: so ago. Orders you were telling us about Sam Jones

1187
01:07:48,147 --> 01:07:50,947
Speaker 3: tearing up the leaderboard, tearing up this course. Has it

1188
01:07:51,067 --> 01:07:53,187
Speaker 3: continued He's.

1189
01:07:53,027 --> 01:07:56,067
Speaker 17: Continued to do so, right Piney and well, there isn't

1190
01:07:56,067 --> 01:08:00,747
Speaker 17: a composite course for the final two rounds, but defekingly a.

1191
01:08:00,787 --> 01:08:01,667
Speaker 9: Course record if you like.

1192
01:08:01,667 --> 01:08:05,067
Speaker 17: I think I've used it previously, but different configuration with

1193
01:08:05,187 --> 01:08:08,747
Speaker 17: how they do those holes ten underpar. He's gone through

1194
01:08:08,827 --> 01:08:11,907
Speaker 17: to fifteen under overall. He's in clear second at the moment.

1195
01:08:11,987 --> 01:08:16,387
Speaker 17: Good tach Co the overnight leader, has also in the

1196
01:08:16,467 --> 01:08:18,827
Speaker 17: shot if you like. He's gone to eighteen under from

1197
01:08:18,867 --> 01:08:21,147
Speaker 17: seventeen under. He's only through a few holes so far.

1198
01:08:21,987 --> 01:08:25,507
Speaker 17: But Jones just really showcasing his ability. We've known about

1199
01:08:25,587 --> 01:08:28,227
Speaker 17: some time and he's played on the European Tour for

1200
01:08:28,347 --> 01:08:31,547
Speaker 17: a season. He's come back here and has really gone

1201
01:08:31,587 --> 01:08:36,627
Speaker 17: to another level early on round three at Millbrook Resort.

1202
01:08:36,827 --> 01:08:39,107
Speaker 3: Now the key with is you talked about Mark Brown,

1203
01:08:39,187 --> 01:08:41,947
Speaker 3: Michael Hendry and some of the others in the chasing pack,

1204
01:08:42,067 --> 01:08:45,347
Speaker 3: Josh Geary as well. They're sort of keeping in touch,

1205
01:08:45,427 --> 01:08:48,947
Speaker 3: aren't they. You're really with being such a low scoring course.

1206
01:08:49,307 --> 01:08:50,907
Speaker 3: I suppose there's two ways of looking at it. You

1207
01:08:50,987 --> 01:08:54,347
Speaker 3: could make a run on the fourth day, or the

1208
01:08:54,507 --> 01:08:56,787
Speaker 3: leaders could hold on to a lead if they've built

1209
01:08:57,227 --> 01:08:59,627
Speaker 3: a pretty good buffer at the top. So you kind

1210
01:08:59,667 --> 01:09:01,067
Speaker 3: of have to be I don't know, but within three

1211
01:09:01,187 --> 01:09:02,587
Speaker 3: or four shots at the end of today or is

1212
01:09:02,987 --> 01:09:04,187
Speaker 3: that completely.

1213
01:09:04,067 --> 01:09:07,027
Speaker 17: You know, I think it's bang on. I think it

1214
01:09:07,027 --> 01:09:08,867
Speaker 17: would be about right. You know, we're on for you

1215
01:09:08,987 --> 01:09:12,227
Speaker 17: as a keddy or as an analyst for this.

1216
01:09:12,507 --> 01:09:13,627
Speaker 10: So that's what I was thinking.

1217
01:09:13,667 --> 01:09:15,747
Speaker 17: Anyway, you have to be in touch there at the

1218
01:09:15,827 --> 01:09:17,707
Speaker 17: moment because I mean, good tach car he could go

1219
01:09:17,747 --> 01:09:19,747
Speaker 17: to another level today and sending that course record on

1220
01:09:19,787 --> 01:09:22,747
Speaker 17: the remarkables yesterday with ten under. With his sixty one,

1221
01:09:23,547 --> 01:09:26,147
Speaker 17: that's going to be that. That's really an intimidating round

1222
01:09:26,227 --> 01:09:29,667
Speaker 17: and might end up being the most important round of

1223
01:09:29,707 --> 01:09:30,307
Speaker 17: this tournament.

1224
01:09:30,587 --> 01:09:31,067
Speaker 26: Who knows.

1225
01:09:31,507 --> 01:09:34,307
Speaker 17: As the scoring continues to go under, but yeah, this

1226
01:09:34,467 --> 01:09:37,427
Speaker 17: is yelders still in touch. So Henry was eleven under

1227
01:09:37,547 --> 01:09:39,587
Speaker 17: just through six moments ago. I think Dan Hill he

1228
01:09:40,187 --> 01:09:42,587
Speaker 17: dropped down to eight under over shopped the shot today

1229
01:09:43,187 --> 01:09:45,427
Speaker 17: with Steve Williams on the bag there. But they've gone

1230
01:09:45,507 --> 01:09:48,027
Speaker 17: well so far in the tournament through a similar number

1231
01:09:48,027 --> 01:09:50,587
Speaker 17: of holes. Mark Brown, big mover, he's gone up to

1232
01:09:51,587 --> 01:09:55,427
Speaker 17: leven under through twelve when I last looked on the scorecard,

1233
01:09:55,987 --> 01:09:57,707
Speaker 17: so he's making moves as well. So there's plenty of

1234
01:09:57,707 --> 01:10:00,987
Speaker 17: these yielders there or thereabouts nine in total. Having made

1235
01:10:01,027 --> 01:10:05,467
Speaker 17: the cut, then he's Zealand open at Millbrook Resorts, so

1236
01:10:05,747 --> 01:10:07,907
Speaker 17: there'll be twenty for local pindus to look out.

1237
01:10:07,827 --> 01:10:09,467
Speaker 3: For absolutely good star forwarders.

1238
01:10:09,547 --> 01:10:09,707
Speaker 12: Thanks.

1239
01:10:09,747 --> 01:10:11,827
Speaker 3: Indeed, we'll checking again in an hour or so to

1240
01:10:12,387 --> 01:10:15,427
Speaker 3: get the final final score for the third round for

1241
01:10:15,707 --> 01:10:20,387
Speaker 3: Sam Jones ten under ten under Goodness me, I think

1242
01:10:20,467 --> 01:10:22,187
Speaker 3: I think he might have just carted a ten under

1243
01:10:22,227 --> 01:10:25,667
Speaker 3: par just as we speak. So Sam Jones are ten

1244
01:10:25,787 --> 01:10:29,587
Speaker 3: under pass sixty one. He is outright second at the moment,

1245
01:10:29,747 --> 01:10:31,987
Speaker 3: but still plenty of golfers out on the course. But

1246
01:10:32,507 --> 01:10:34,587
Speaker 3: when you go out and shoot us sixty one, you're

1247
01:10:34,627 --> 01:10:37,867
Speaker 3: gonna shoot up any leaderboard. And Sam Jones the key

1248
01:10:37,907 --> 01:10:40,107
Speaker 3: we has certainly done that. Outright second at the moment,

1249
01:10:40,147 --> 01:10:44,347
Speaker 3: but still three shots behind Guntakko, the Korean golfer who

1250
01:10:44,507 --> 01:10:47,067
Speaker 3: is eighteen under the cart and already one under through

1251
01:10:47,147 --> 01:10:49,947
Speaker 3: one hole today, so goodness only knows what he'll finish

1252
01:10:50,347 --> 01:10:53,387
Speaker 3: the third round at twenty one to two when we

1253
01:10:53,467 --> 01:10:55,907
Speaker 3: come back across the Tasman will go. Adam Peacock in

1254
01:10:55,987 --> 01:10:57,147
Speaker 3: his regular slofe.

1255
01:10:57,147 --> 01:11:00,027
Speaker 1: Don't get caught off side eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1256
01:11:00,387 --> 01:11:04,387
Speaker 1: Weekends for Us with Jason Paine and GJ Guvnoes, New

1257
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1258
01:11:06,507 --> 01:11:09,267
Speaker 3: Talks eight Anyway from two your final texts here on

1259
01:11:09,347 --> 01:11:10,907
Speaker 3: Vegas Up Vegas. I was going to go, but the

1260
01:11:10,947 --> 01:11:13,627
Speaker 3: Missus dangled the carrot. She said we could go to

1261
01:11:13,747 --> 01:11:17,587
Speaker 3: Ossie twice to watch the Warriors. On top of magic round,

1262
01:11:18,067 --> 01:11:20,547
Speaker 3: she gets to shop while we're over there, So I

1263
01:11:20,667 --> 01:11:23,467
Speaker 3: took the extra trips to Australia over Vegas. I do

1264
01:11:23,627 --> 01:11:26,587
Speaker 3: regret it now by looking at all the social media

1265
01:11:27,067 --> 01:11:29,787
Speaker 3: next time if they go next time. Indeed, I'm not

1266
01:11:30,067 --> 01:11:32,187
Speaker 3: sure what the situation is around if you if you're

1267
01:11:32,227 --> 01:11:34,827
Speaker 3: won and done, because they'd want to share it around,

1268
01:11:34,827 --> 01:11:38,147
Speaker 3: wouldn't they. But yeah, I'm sure there will be a

1269
01:11:38,227 --> 01:11:41,827
Speaker 3: next time. Let's get you across the Tasman. To Adam Peacock,

1270
01:11:41,947 --> 01:11:46,347
Speaker 3: our regular correspondent on Australian sporting matters, seems like a

1271
01:11:46,387 --> 01:11:50,387
Speaker 3: lot of people have got junkets to Las Vegas. Adam,

1272
01:11:50,387 --> 01:11:54,787
Speaker 3: you didn't get one, No, no other side of the Pacific.

1273
01:11:56,187 --> 01:11:59,387
Speaker 24: Where the focal point is. Yeah, everyone's going off about

1274
01:11:59,827 --> 01:12:02,027
Speaker 24: Vegas over here, and obviously with the Warriors over there

1275
01:12:02,067 --> 01:12:03,787
Speaker 24: as well, I'd say it's getting abody cut through in

1276
01:12:03,867 --> 01:12:09,787
Speaker 24: New Zealand and Yeah, so interesting concept. They basically it's

1277
01:12:09,827 --> 01:12:12,627
Speaker 24: an excuse for all regular league fans to get over

1278
01:12:12,707 --> 01:12:14,947
Speaker 24: to Vegas. Basically, I don't know how much cut through

1279
01:12:14,947 --> 01:12:19,387
Speaker 24: their actually getting in America. Knowing America a little bit

1280
01:12:19,467 --> 01:12:22,427
Speaker 24: like I've I can say a few months ago, I

1281
01:12:22,507 --> 01:12:24,747
Speaker 24: was actually there when the All Whites were playing a

1282
01:12:24,907 --> 01:12:29,867
Speaker 24: massive game against Mexico in Pasadena, and I was staying

1283
01:12:29,947 --> 01:12:33,307
Speaker 24: in Pasadena and there were ninety thousand people going to

1284
01:12:33,387 --> 01:12:35,427
Speaker 24: the game. But two days before the game, I had

1285
01:12:35,507 --> 01:12:37,627
Speaker 24: no idea the game was on. So that's how hard

1286
01:12:37,707 --> 01:12:40,947
Speaker 24: it is to get cut through for events in America

1287
01:12:41,067 --> 01:12:43,867
Speaker 24: because there is so much. But they're having a crack

1288
01:12:44,107 --> 01:12:45,667
Speaker 24: and it's going to be a great occasion. There's going

1289
01:12:45,707 --> 01:12:47,947
Speaker 24: to be fifty thousand people there, But where are those

1290
01:12:47,987 --> 01:12:49,907
Speaker 24: fifty thousand from the majority are going to be from

1291
01:12:49,907 --> 01:12:51,587
Speaker 24: here or England because they've got a couple of Super

1292
01:12:51,667 --> 01:12:52,787
Speaker 24: League teams over there as well.

1293
01:12:52,987 --> 01:12:54,507
Speaker 3: Yeah indeed, Yeah, well I know that a lot of

1294
01:12:54,587 --> 01:12:57,467
Speaker 3: Warriors fans have traveled. There was a special charter flight

1295
01:12:57,547 --> 01:13:00,027
Speaker 3: put on and yeah, I think those who are there

1296
01:13:00,187 --> 01:13:03,707
Speaker 3: will have an absolute blast. What happens in Vegas stays

1297
01:13:03,747 --> 01:13:06,507
Speaker 3: in Vegas, as they say, so there'll be some some

1298
01:13:06,627 --> 01:13:08,907
Speaker 3: stories that get told and don't get told. When it

1299
01:13:08,987 --> 01:13:11,427
Speaker 3: comes to the season though, the twenty twenty five NRL

1300
01:13:11,507 --> 01:13:15,067
Speaker 3: season about to get underway. I was looking at this

1301
01:13:15,147 --> 01:13:17,467
Speaker 3: this morning. I forget you forget about Penrith and how

1302
01:13:17,507 --> 01:13:21,587
Speaker 3: good they are. Four straight championships. Could they possibly make

1303
01:13:21,667 --> 01:13:22,467
Speaker 3: it five in a row?

1304
01:13:23,667 --> 01:13:26,667
Speaker 24: Well, they're in the mix. I mean other teams around

1305
01:13:26,787 --> 01:13:29,547
Speaker 24: them seem to have gone a little bit better, namely

1306
01:13:29,627 --> 01:13:33,467
Speaker 24: Melbourne Brisbane are going to be better. But aside from that,

1307
01:13:33,667 --> 01:13:38,147
Speaker 24: there's no real like like team jumping out at You're saying,

1308
01:13:38,227 --> 01:13:41,147
Speaker 24: oh yeah, well, they're definitely better than Penrith this year.

1309
01:13:41,187 --> 01:13:43,787
Speaker 24: Peterweith are going to be so in this especially if

1310
01:13:43,827 --> 01:13:47,307
Speaker 24: Nathan Cleary stays fit. Look, I think Nathan Cleary, who

1311
01:13:47,387 --> 01:13:51,267
Speaker 24: is the best player in the comp, stays fit, anything's

1312
01:13:51,307 --> 01:13:53,587
Speaker 24: a possibility for Penrith. But if he has another season

1313
01:13:53,667 --> 01:13:56,027
Speaker 24: like he did last year where he essentially missed half

1314
01:13:56,107 --> 01:13:57,907
Speaker 24: the year. I think they're going to find it tough.

1315
01:13:58,187 --> 01:14:00,867
Speaker 24: They've just had their depth chipped away, chipped away Jeron

1316
01:14:00,947 --> 01:14:03,467
Speaker 24: Leui has gone to the West Tigers. But they're still

1317
01:14:04,027 --> 01:14:06,147
Speaker 24: such a good team. I mean there's no James Fisher,

1318
01:14:06,147 --> 01:14:09,187
Speaker 24: how which they didn't get the opportunity to really replace him,

1319
01:14:10,427 --> 01:14:12,427
Speaker 24: the big pop who's going to be such an addition

1320
01:14:12,467 --> 01:14:13,947
Speaker 24: to the word. I'm hearing people on this side of

1321
01:14:14,587 --> 01:14:16,627
Speaker 24: that has been saying that, oh, yeah, the Warriors aren't

1322
01:14:16,627 --> 01:14:18,507
Speaker 24: going to be that much shop blah blah blah. Now

1323
01:14:18,827 --> 01:14:21,147
Speaker 24: the signing of Jones Sishah Harris is huge for them

1324
01:14:21,507 --> 01:14:24,467
Speaker 24: and it's going to benefit them on and off the park.

1325
01:14:25,347 --> 01:14:26,947
Speaker 24: Look penwith they are going to be around the place,

1326
01:14:27,027 --> 01:14:30,467
Speaker 24: but probably Melbourne of favorites, and yeah there's a blanket

1327
01:14:30,507 --> 01:14:31,067
Speaker 24: of them as well.

1328
01:14:31,227 --> 01:14:33,347
Speaker 3: Yeah, a bunch of teams chasing those two by the

1329
01:14:33,427 --> 01:14:35,867
Speaker 3: looks of it. So Vegas this weekend for the start

1330
01:14:35,907 --> 01:14:37,867
Speaker 3: of the NFL season, Can we go to the Champions

1331
01:14:37,947 --> 01:14:42,267
Speaker 3: Trophy cricket Overnight, Australia played their final pull match against Afghanistan,

1332
01:14:42,307 --> 01:14:44,747
Speaker 3: where they would have if it didn't rain. Afghanistan all

1333
01:14:44,787 --> 01:14:47,067
Speaker 3: out two seventy three off the last ball of the

1334
01:14:47,107 --> 01:14:50,067
Speaker 3: fiftieth over, Australia were cruising going at eight and a

1335
01:14:50,107 --> 01:14:53,267
Speaker 3: half's one hundred and nine for one in the thirteenth

1336
01:14:53,347 --> 01:14:55,547
Speaker 3: over when rain stopped plays. So just the just the

1337
01:14:55,627 --> 01:14:58,707
Speaker 3: one point each for the abandoned game. It secures Australia's

1338
01:14:58,707 --> 01:15:00,987
Speaker 3: passage through to the semi finals. We know how good

1339
01:15:00,987 --> 01:15:03,547
Speaker 3: they are at knockout time. You feel confident in Australia

1340
01:15:03,587 --> 01:15:04,867
Speaker 3: can pick up some more silverware.

1341
01:15:06,067 --> 01:15:09,947
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, especially if Travis headfires like you did overnight

1342
01:15:10,107 --> 01:15:13,907
Speaker 24: with the half century much better than run a ball.

1343
01:15:14,227 --> 01:15:17,667
Speaker 24: So if he gives us a start where we're a

1344
01:15:17,707 --> 01:15:21,467
Speaker 24: massive chance in any game. We don't have the bowling

1345
01:15:21,507 --> 01:15:24,187
Speaker 24: stocks that we usually do. There's no pad Cavans, there's

1346
01:15:24,187 --> 01:15:27,547
Speaker 24: no midstart, there's no Josh Hazlewood. But there's still a

1347
01:15:27,747 --> 01:15:31,787
Speaker 24: tidy I would call it improving bowling unit around some

1348
01:15:31,947 --> 01:15:35,427
Speaker 24: pretty established names for the bat. So yeah, we can

1349
01:15:35,547 --> 01:15:39,307
Speaker 24: go close. It's it's the weird old tournament, as you know, Piney.

1350
01:15:39,387 --> 01:15:41,707
Speaker 24: I mean India are playing all their games in Dubai.

1351
01:15:41,787 --> 01:15:44,747
Speaker 24: They'll play the semi there. Wherever you're finishing New Pool

1352
01:15:45,027 --> 01:15:47,627
Speaker 24: doesn't matter if you play India, you're playing in Dubai,

1353
01:15:48,467 --> 01:15:50,947
Speaker 24: So yeah, we'll wait and see what that one, see

1354
01:15:50,987 --> 01:15:53,627
Speaker 24: our conditions play out, but they'll be in the frame.

1355
01:15:53,667 --> 01:15:56,627
Speaker 3: Australia in this last four yeah absolutely well New Zealand

1356
01:15:56,627 --> 01:15:59,027
Speaker 3: will be there too, so yeah, in New Zealand, India,

1357
01:15:59,067 --> 01:16:01,587
Speaker 3: Australia and one other. So we'll look forward to seeing

1358
01:16:01,827 --> 01:16:03,507
Speaker 3: how it all plays out over the next week or so.

1359
01:16:04,027 --> 01:16:06,947
Speaker 3: And to football where you're young soccer cruse, this is

1360
01:16:07,027 --> 01:16:10,267
Speaker 3: the means under twenty side have made it all the

1361
01:16:10,307 --> 01:16:13,307
Speaker 3: way through to the final of the Asian Cup, the

1362
01:16:13,707 --> 01:16:17,307
Speaker 3: Asian Cup Under twenty Championship. This was this expected? Did

1363
01:16:17,387 --> 01:16:19,827
Speaker 3: you think this group of players headed in them?

1364
01:16:22,907 --> 01:16:26,347
Speaker 24: Not a total shock, but I was a little taken

1365
01:16:26,547 --> 01:16:28,747
Speaker 24: back about the result against Japan in the semi final

1366
01:16:28,827 --> 01:16:31,507
Speaker 24: to nil, and probably played the better football as well,

1367
01:16:31,587 --> 01:16:34,187
Speaker 24: which I can't say has happened too often when it

1368
01:16:34,267 --> 01:16:37,547
Speaker 24: comes to playing the better football against Japan over the

1369
01:16:37,627 --> 01:16:40,467
Speaker 24: years that we've been in the Asian Confederation. But yeah,

1370
01:16:40,707 --> 01:16:42,307
Speaker 24: there has been a bit of talk about this group

1371
01:16:42,387 --> 01:16:45,307
Speaker 24: being very, very good and there's still five or six

1372
01:16:45,387 --> 01:16:48,107
Speaker 24: of them not involved because they're europe they're involved with

1373
01:16:48,187 --> 01:16:50,387
Speaker 24: European clubs and they've stayed there, which is fair enough.

1374
01:16:51,027 --> 01:16:53,387
Speaker 24: But yeah, this is this is big for the A League,

1375
01:16:53,867 --> 01:16:55,907
Speaker 24: namely because this show is that if you give young

1376
01:16:55,947 --> 01:16:58,867
Speaker 24: players a chance in the A League, give them a hope,

1377
01:16:59,187 --> 01:17:01,947
Speaker 24: they're going to improve and they're going to improve to

1378
01:17:01,987 --> 01:17:03,307
Speaker 24: the point where they're going to make a mark on

1379
01:17:03,347 --> 01:17:05,827
Speaker 24: a continental stage, which they have. I hope they get

1380
01:17:05,867 --> 01:17:08,507
Speaker 24: passed out in the final. It'll be great to see

1381
01:17:08,547 --> 01:17:10,427
Speaker 24: them through. But the main job was to qualify for

1382
01:17:10,467 --> 01:17:12,507
Speaker 24: the World Cup. They did that by making the semis.

1383
01:17:12,867 --> 01:17:16,147
Speaker 24: But yeah, it's encouraging signs. I'd say more than anything

1384
01:17:16,227 --> 01:17:18,027
Speaker 24: for Australian football. I love this.

1385
01:17:18,307 --> 01:17:21,347
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're right about the A League because Auckland

1386
01:17:21,467 --> 01:17:24,267
Speaker 3: f C are playing Adelaide United today. Adelaide United have

1387
01:17:24,467 --> 01:17:29,187
Speaker 3: four players who started the semi final against Japan the

1388
01:17:29,267 --> 01:17:31,867
Speaker 3: other day, so four. You know, it's not a great

1389
01:17:32,147 --> 01:17:34,867
Speaker 3: it's not a great thing for Carl Viet, the coach

1390
01:17:34,907 --> 01:17:37,147
Speaker 3: of Adelaide United, But in terms of the development of

1391
01:17:37,227 --> 01:17:39,467
Speaker 3: young players through the A League, it's great to know

1392
01:17:39,547 --> 01:17:42,067
Speaker 3: that that actually is a pathway.

1393
01:17:43,387 --> 01:17:45,827
Speaker 24: Yeah, but Carl knows that he's got the job and

1394
01:17:45,947 --> 01:17:48,467
Speaker 24: he's given leeway. He didn't have a great season last year.

1395
01:17:48,587 --> 01:17:51,227
Speaker 24: Maybe other clubs he gets it, gets the bullets. But

1396
01:17:51,307 --> 01:17:53,947
Speaker 24: he was playing young players. He's giving these kids, like

1397
01:17:54,027 --> 01:17:57,907
Speaker 24: the kid up front, Ivanovitch him Ago and he's improving

1398
01:17:57,987 --> 01:18:01,147
Speaker 24: all the time. So it's good that Adelaide can trust

1399
01:18:01,227 --> 01:18:03,067
Speaker 24: carl Vit with that, and it's good that Calvit can

1400
01:18:03,107 --> 01:18:06,507
Speaker 24: trust Adelaide with that that three losses four losses in right,

1401
01:18:06,547 --> 01:18:08,627
Speaker 24: doesn't mean he's going to get the sack. You're going

1402
01:18:08,707 --> 01:18:10,627
Speaker 24: to play young players and you're going to see some

1403
01:18:10,707 --> 01:18:13,067
Speaker 24: players today who are going to make you feel very

1404
01:18:13,107 --> 01:18:17,067
Speaker 24: old tiny. So it's the way. It's the way that

1405
01:18:17,267 --> 01:18:20,427
Speaker 24: that club operates. It's not for everyone, but it's the

1406
01:18:20,467 --> 01:18:23,307
Speaker 24: way that Adelaide myself, right, And you look at the

1407
01:18:23,347 --> 01:18:25,187
Speaker 24: players that they've been able to sell and the money

1408
01:18:25,227 --> 01:18:26,867
Speaker 24: that they've been able to bring in and hopefully they're

1409
01:18:26,867 --> 01:18:30,867
Speaker 24: reinvesting in the club. It's it's the model indeed.

1410
01:18:31,547 --> 01:18:33,307
Speaker 3: Indeed, Yeah, I'm a fan. I'm a fan of y.

1411
01:18:33,387 --> 01:18:34,907
Speaker 3: Now know you're big on your golf. Have you ever

1412
01:18:34,987 --> 01:18:38,507
Speaker 3: played Millbrook in Queenstown, New Zealand? Have you played down there?

1413
01:18:40,627 --> 01:18:42,507
Speaker 24: You're friends who have been there and they bang on

1414
01:18:42,547 --> 01:18:45,187
Speaker 24: about how good it is. I've not been able to

1415
01:18:45,267 --> 01:18:49,107
Speaker 24: get there, and every time. Every time, some time brings

1416
01:18:49,147 --> 01:18:51,307
Speaker 24: it up a rush of envy history, Piney, So what

1417
01:18:51,387 --> 01:18:52,107
Speaker 24: are you about to say?

1418
01:18:52,307 --> 01:18:54,707
Speaker 3: Well, well, the New Zealand opener is on there this weekend.

1419
01:18:54,787 --> 01:18:56,387
Speaker 3: That's the that's the reason I bring it up. And

1420
01:18:57,107 --> 01:19:01,067
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've seen some of the spectacular scenery your own.

1421
01:19:01,147 --> 01:19:03,307
Speaker 3: Ricky Ponting is one of the ambassador's going to chat

1422
01:19:03,307 --> 01:19:04,907
Speaker 3: to him on the show this afternoon actually, and he

1423
01:19:05,107 --> 01:19:07,667
Speaker 3: just raves about the place and technic I saw him

1424
01:19:07,707 --> 01:19:10,587
Speaker 3: quoted as saying it's his favorite place in the world.

1425
01:19:12,067 --> 01:19:15,267
Speaker 24: Yeah, well, okay, I'm sure his wife would be happy

1426
01:19:15,267 --> 01:19:21,267
Speaker 24: about that. About her own house, the ash Party, I know, yes,

1427
01:19:21,587 --> 01:19:24,627
Speaker 24: and her husband, Gazz he's over there. I think I

1428
01:19:24,667 --> 01:19:26,907
Speaker 24: think he's caddying for Lui Dobbela. I think I'm not sure,

1429
01:19:27,027 --> 01:19:29,187
Speaker 24: but yeah, they go over there a bit as well,

1430
01:19:29,267 --> 01:19:31,627
Speaker 24: and they bang on about it too. So yeah, I

1431
01:19:32,787 --> 01:19:35,267
Speaker 24: gest it looks like a spectacular place and definitely a

1432
01:19:35,347 --> 01:19:38,987
Speaker 24: fucking list place for a golfer like me. And it's

1433
01:19:39,027 --> 01:19:40,947
Speaker 24: great to see some big names over there talking about

1434
01:19:40,987 --> 01:19:42,507
Speaker 24: because it deserves to be talked up.

1435
01:19:43,027 --> 01:19:45,347
Speaker 3: Yeah s party, Yes, she's another ambassador over here as well.

1436
01:19:45,347 --> 01:19:47,027
Speaker 3: I don't think she played over the weekend, but yeah,

1437
01:19:47,307 --> 01:19:49,467
Speaker 3: I know she has enjoyed herself in queens so we'll

1438
01:19:49,507 --> 01:19:52,147
Speaker 3: get you there one day. Adam. Well, maybe we need

1439
01:19:52,267 --> 01:19:55,347
Speaker 3: to talk about the increasing your fee for the show

1440
01:19:55,507 --> 01:19:58,307
Speaker 3: so that you can start putting some money away towards

1441
01:19:58,347 --> 01:19:59,347
Speaker 3: the trip to Queenstown.

1442
01:20:00,507 --> 01:20:02,787
Speaker 24: Hey, if you get me on that Saturday morning, just

1443
01:20:02,827 --> 01:20:05,467
Speaker 24: talk about Millbrog and automatically becomes a tax rider so

1444
01:20:05,467 --> 01:20:07,107
Speaker 24: they don't want about the Trea. I'll just ride off

1445
01:20:07,147 --> 01:20:07,307
Speaker 24: on that.

1446
01:20:08,467 --> 01:20:10,747
Speaker 3: Love it always great chatting Australian sport with you, Adam.

1447
01:20:10,747 --> 01:20:12,027
Speaker 3: Will do it again next Saturday.

1448
01:20:12,507 --> 01:20:13,787
Speaker 8: Good thanks, fining, No thanks, Adam.

1449
01:20:13,827 --> 01:20:16,427
Speaker 3: Adam Peacock are Australian correspondent. They're part of our Saturdays

1450
01:20:16,467 --> 01:20:18,267
Speaker 3: that around about this time on news Talks head b

1451
01:20:18,867 --> 01:20:21,347
Speaker 3: quick look at the Halle Burton Johnston Shield Final. This

1452
01:20:21,427 --> 01:20:25,147
Speaker 3: is the women's fifty over domestic competition where Maddy Green

1453
01:20:25,187 --> 01:20:28,907
Speaker 3: has brought up one hundred for Auckland batting first against

1454
01:20:28,947 --> 01:20:31,547
Speaker 3: Otago into need in two hundred and fifty four for

1455
01:20:31,707 --> 01:20:35,187
Speaker 3: three coming towards the end of the forty seventh over,

1456
01:20:35,707 --> 01:20:37,547
Speaker 3: so Maddy Green one hundred and one not out of

1457
01:20:37,547 --> 01:20:39,667
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirteen balls. Lauren Down is there with her.

1458
01:20:39,747 --> 01:20:42,867
Speaker 3: She's eighty eight unbeaten off eighty six. I'll see if

1459
01:20:42,907 --> 01:20:46,467
Speaker 3: I can do these sums quickly on their partnership. I

1460
01:20:46,547 --> 01:20:49,667
Speaker 3: don't trust myself normally with these things, but I by

1461
01:20:49,747 --> 01:20:52,507
Speaker 3: my count at one hundred and seventy five unbeaten for

1462
01:20:52,627 --> 01:20:55,707
Speaker 3: the fourth wicket between the two White Fans players Maddy

1463
01:20:55,747 --> 01:20:59,587
Speaker 3: Green and Lauren Down, setting a big total for Otago

1464
01:20:59,707 --> 01:21:01,907
Speaker 3: to chase if they are to win the halle Burton

1465
01:21:02,027 --> 01:21:04,747
Speaker 3: Johnston Shield. A bit later on this afternoon eight to

1466
01:21:04,827 --> 01:21:05,867
Speaker 3: two News Talks, heab.

1467
01:21:07,387 --> 01:21:09,987
Speaker 1: The sue from the track field and the court on

1468
01:21:10,147 --> 01:21:12,307
Speaker 1: your Home of Lord weekends for it.

1469
01:21:12,507 --> 01:21:13,547
Speaker 2: Where's Jason Vine?

1470
01:21:14,947 --> 01:21:17,387
Speaker 3: Just on five to two after two o'clock, we're back

1471
01:21:17,427 --> 01:21:20,667
Speaker 3: to Milbrook Andrew Ordison with a further update for you,

1472
01:21:20,787 --> 01:21:22,347
Speaker 3: but also we're going to chat to a couple of

1473
01:21:22,427 --> 01:21:27,907
Speaker 3: the New Zealand Golf Open Ambassadors. They have collected together

1474
01:21:28,107 --> 01:21:33,107
Speaker 3: a wide range of elite sports people to be ambassadors,

1475
01:21:33,187 --> 01:21:36,587
Speaker 3: and when I say elite, I mean elite. Richie mccaur

1476
01:21:37,147 --> 01:21:40,507
Speaker 3: is one of the New Zealand Golf Open Ambassadors. Ricky

1477
01:21:40,667 --> 01:21:44,267
Speaker 3: Ponting is another one, and both of them have said yet,

1478
01:21:44,267 --> 01:21:45,787
Speaker 3: We'll take your call. We'll tell you a bit about

1479
01:21:45,827 --> 01:21:48,507
Speaker 3: how I've been going on the course and how we're

1480
01:21:48,587 --> 01:21:52,507
Speaker 3: enjoying the experience. So Ricky Ponting and Richie mccaugh both

1481
01:21:52,547 --> 01:21:55,667
Speaker 3: on the show after two o'clock from Millbrook. We're also

1482
01:21:56,267 --> 01:21:59,427
Speaker 3: going to talk about this big racing event at Alleley

1483
01:21:59,747 --> 01:22:02,147
Speaker 3: next weekend, the inaugural four and a half million dollar

1484
01:22:02,747 --> 01:22:06,747
Speaker 3: n z B KEYW It's the Southern Hemisphere's richest race

1485
01:22:07,267 --> 01:22:10,867
Speaker 3: for three year olds. Top jockey and trainer Sam Winn

1486
01:22:11,107 --> 01:22:14,147
Speaker 3: is going to ride Pivotal ten. She was confirmed this

1487
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Speaker 3: week as the first female jockey to be included in

1488
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Speaker 3: the field. She's going to join us on the show

1489
01:22:19,387 --> 01:22:24,067
Speaker 3: after two Pivotal ten. This is this is an amazing story.

1490
01:22:24,467 --> 01:22:26,187
Speaker 3: I'm not going to have time before the two o'clock

1491
01:22:26,267 --> 01:22:28,427
Speaker 3: news to tell you all about this horse, but it

1492
01:22:28,587 --> 01:22:33,147
Speaker 3: is a rags to riches story. So Sam Winn is

1493
01:22:33,427 --> 01:22:35,827
Speaker 3: on the show after two with that, and we'll also

1494
01:22:35,987 --> 01:22:38,107
Speaker 3: look back at last night's Super Rugby action. But the

1495
01:22:38,187 --> 01:22:41,947
Speaker 3: Highlanders pipping Mowana Pacifica. They were thirty one ten ahead

1496
01:22:41,947 --> 01:22:44,907
Speaker 3: at halftime, eventually one at thirty one twenty nine, so

1497
01:22:45,427 --> 01:22:46,987
Speaker 3: made it hard work for themselves, so I've been a

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Speaker 3: super rugby for you after the two o'clock news as well.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

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01:22:55,147 --> 01:22:56,267
Speaker 1: and after field.

1501
01:22:56,827 --> 01:23:00,507
Speaker 2: It's all on Joe's Sport with Jason Vade on your

1502
01:23:00,587 --> 01:23:03,187
Speaker 2: home of Sport, New York.

1503
01:23:04,347 --> 01:23:06,667
Speaker 3: Hello there, welcome in seven past two. I'm jas Pine.

1504
01:23:06,707 --> 01:23:09,227
Speaker 3: Andy McDonald is producing the show. This is Weekend Sport

1505
01:23:09,387 --> 01:23:12,547
Speaker 3: until three. We're gonna hand over to the Weekend Collective

1506
01:23:12,587 --> 01:23:16,587
Speaker 3: after three. Tim Beverige's not here. Francesca Rutgin in the chair.

1507
01:23:17,587 --> 01:23:22,027
Speaker 3: A celebrity edition of the Weekend Collective with no disrespect

1508
01:23:22,107 --> 01:23:25,787
Speaker 3: to Tim Beveridge intended. Before we can get to that,

1509
01:23:26,107 --> 01:23:29,267
Speaker 3: quite a bit to get through where back and forth

1510
01:23:29,787 --> 01:23:33,267
Speaker 3: from Melbrook, because we're gonna have a chat to a

1511
01:23:33,347 --> 01:23:37,707
Speaker 3: couple of New Zealand Golf Open ambassadors, big names and

1512
01:23:37,787 --> 01:23:42,267
Speaker 3: other sports. Former double World Cup winning All Blacks captain

1513
01:23:42,507 --> 01:23:46,467
Speaker 3: Richie mccare, one of the greatest cricketers ever to walk

1514
01:23:46,507 --> 01:23:49,667
Speaker 3: the earth, Ricky Ponting. They're both in Queenstown as ambassadors

1515
01:23:49,707 --> 01:23:51,267
Speaker 3: for the New Zealand Golf Open. They're going to chat

1516
01:23:51,347 --> 01:23:54,227
Speaker 3: to us. We'll also hear shortly from Sam Jones, who,

1517
01:23:54,427 --> 01:23:57,107
Speaker 3: as you heard from Weno in our sports news, has

1518
01:23:57,227 --> 01:24:00,027
Speaker 3: just fired a ten under par rounds to move to

1519
01:24:00,107 --> 01:24:04,987
Speaker 3: outright second our man in Melbrook or at Melbrook Andrew

1520
01:24:05,107 --> 01:24:07,107
Speaker 3: Ortison chatter with him. We'll also orders on the show

1521
01:24:07,267 --> 01:24:10,347
Speaker 3: at some stage of this hour too. And amongst all

1522
01:24:10,427 --> 01:24:12,387
Speaker 3: that I want to talk about as Super Rugby with

1523
01:24:12,467 --> 01:24:16,707
Speaker 3: Mona Pacifica and the Highlanders duking it out last night

1524
01:24:16,747 --> 01:24:22,827
Speaker 3: at Albany, but also next weekend's inaugural New Zealand Bloodstock

1525
01:24:22,907 --> 01:24:25,787
Speaker 3: keiw at Elliceleye four and a half million dollar purse

1526
01:24:25,907 --> 01:24:30,387
Speaker 3: for this the Southern Hemisphere's richest race for three year olds.

1527
01:24:30,507 --> 01:24:34,267
Speaker 3: Samantha Win is going to write Pivotal ten and she'll

1528
01:24:34,307 --> 01:24:37,107
Speaker 3: chat to us this hour as well. So quite a

1529
01:24:37,147 --> 01:24:39,787
Speaker 3: bit to get stuck into between now and three o'clock.

1530
01:24:39,867 --> 01:24:42,867
Speaker 3: So without any further ado, we should probably bring you

1531
01:24:42,987 --> 01:24:44,627
Speaker 3: up to date with some of the other stuff that

1532
01:24:44,707 --> 01:24:47,467
Speaker 3: has been happening and in around the sporting universe in

1533
01:24:47,507 --> 01:24:50,107
Speaker 3: the last twenty four to thirty six hours or so

1534
01:24:50,867 --> 01:24:52,867
Speaker 3: it's called in case you missed it. It's where we

1535
01:24:52,987 --> 01:24:56,227
Speaker 3: catch you up on things, starting with the Australian National

1536
01:24:56,347 --> 01:25:01,347
Speaker 3: Basketball League semi finals. They're underway. The Illawarra Hawks have

1537
01:25:01,587 --> 01:25:05,507
Speaker 3: moved one step closer to the final series. Sure scramble

1538
01:25:05,827 --> 01:25:07,147
Speaker 3: the how have the ball through?

1539
01:25:07,187 --> 01:25:08,147
Speaker 12: Will Hickey.

1540
01:25:09,467 --> 01:25:14,507
Speaker 3: Now Trey Kurler Boy's trouble. Josh King says, don't foul.

1541
01:25:17,827 --> 01:25:21,907
Speaker 27: And the Illawa hopes to run up in their playoff

1542
01:25:21,987 --> 01:25:23,667
Speaker 27: series against Southeast Melbourne.

1543
01:25:23,707 --> 01:25:26,067
Speaker 3: Here the Hawks grinding out of one oh one ninety

1544
01:25:26,227 --> 01:25:30,547
Speaker 3: four win in game one against Southeast Melbourne. Speaking of Melbourne,

1545
01:25:30,587 --> 01:25:35,267
Speaker 3: Melbourne City the football team further added to the Wellington

1546
01:25:35,307 --> 01:25:39,627
Speaker 3: Phoenixes currently miserable run of form. Capdo leaves the for

1547
01:25:39,787 --> 01:25:45,507
Speaker 3: Tillio and Marco Tellio against his favorite opponents.

1548
01:25:46,187 --> 01:25:50,427
Speaker 27: Scores yet again, seven goals in eight.

1549
01:25:50,427 --> 01:25:54,307
Speaker 3: Games against Wellington Phoenix and five minutes into the second

1550
01:25:54,347 --> 01:25:56,147
Speaker 3: half the visitors take.

1551
01:25:56,027 --> 01:25:56,787
Speaker 2: A one nill lead.

1552
01:25:56,907 --> 01:26:00,227
Speaker 3: He finish one nill. That was a fifth consecutive game

1553
01:26:00,267 --> 01:26:04,307
Speaker 3: without a win for Wellington Phoenix, who remain in eleventh place.

1554
01:26:04,427 --> 01:26:07,987
Speaker 3: Western United meantime, moved all the way up to seconds.

1555
01:26:08,027 --> 01:26:11,107
Speaker 27: This should finish its dan Zaki's squared off.

1556
01:26:10,987 --> 01:26:13,227
Speaker 3: Of the overplayed its Nacherene.

1557
01:26:14,027 --> 01:26:18,267
Speaker 27: Dan Zaki added, the art did turn off my klouse

1558
01:26:18,907 --> 01:26:22,307
Speaker 27: by the other side of the crossbar against his former

1559
01:26:22,387 --> 01:26:24,747
Speaker 27: cloud and the Mariners.

1560
01:26:24,907 --> 01:26:28,827
Speaker 3: Are Sun Yeah three one. The score there Western United

1561
01:26:28,867 --> 01:26:31,387
Speaker 3: over the Marinis. Haukland f C. Of course play Adelaide

1562
01:26:31,507 --> 01:26:34,747
Speaker 3: United at five o'clock this afternoon. And in Super Rugby Pacific,

1563
01:26:35,427 --> 01:26:38,107
Speaker 3: the war Retarz and the Fiji and Drewer played out

1564
01:26:38,187 --> 01:26:41,707
Speaker 3: in another classic, the war Retars holding on for.

1565
01:26:41,747 --> 01:26:46,067
Speaker 28: A twenty nine to twenty four wind. I've got one

1566
01:26:46,227 --> 01:26:50,587
Speaker 28: on the road in their last sixteen stuck. What can

1567
01:26:50,667 --> 01:26:54,947
Speaker 28: they create? Lake down man, it's us.

1568
01:26:56,667 --> 01:26:58,347
Speaker 21: It's going forward at the clouds.

1569
01:26:59,107 --> 01:27:03,147
Speaker 2: Drown it out when it's down to the line. You

1570
01:27:03,267 --> 01:27:08,747
Speaker 2: made a call on Weekend Sport with Jason Hine News.

1571
01:27:08,627 --> 01:27:11,547
Speaker 3: Talk eleven past two. So back down to Millbrook we

1572
01:27:11,707 --> 01:27:14,587
Speaker 3: go where kee we. Sam Jones has climbed up to

1573
01:27:14,747 --> 01:27:18,387
Speaker 3: outright second after his third round at the prestigious New

1574
01:27:18,467 --> 01:27:22,067
Speaker 3: Zealand Golf Open in Central Otago. He's finished ten under

1575
01:27:22,147 --> 01:27:25,707
Speaker 3: par for the day. Andrew Ordison is there and shortly

1576
01:27:25,747 --> 01:27:28,747
Speaker 3: after Sam Jones finished his round he spoke with our

1577
01:27:28,827 --> 01:27:29,947
Speaker 3: man Andrew Ordison.

1578
01:27:30,267 --> 01:27:31,907
Speaker 17: There come from you felt that was building over the

1579
01:27:31,947 --> 01:27:32,907
Speaker 17: first couple of rounds.

1580
01:27:33,587 --> 01:27:35,507
Speaker 5: No not so be honest with you It's been a

1581
01:27:35,707 --> 01:27:36,987
Speaker 5: rough out there the first couple of days.

1582
01:27:37,347 --> 01:27:40,747
Speaker 29: Struggled a little bit on the greens and swinging it great,

1583
01:27:40,947 --> 01:27:44,347
Speaker 29: but yeah, that's golf. Sometimes these things happen and you

1584
01:27:44,467 --> 01:27:46,987
Speaker 29: just take them for what it is. Don't try and

1585
01:27:46,987 --> 01:27:48,427
Speaker 29: get too high when the things go good, and then

1586
01:27:48,427 --> 01:27:49,987
Speaker 29: don't try and get too low when the things go bad.

1587
01:27:50,027 --> 01:27:51,507
Speaker 5: So just yeah, take it as it comes and just

1588
01:27:51,587 --> 01:27:52,027
Speaker 5: go from there.

1589
01:27:52,387 --> 01:27:54,707
Speaker 17: And you've hit some formal on the South African or

1590
01:27:54,707 --> 01:27:57,027
Speaker 17: in South Africa's part of the Secretary Tour for.

1591
01:27:57,627 --> 01:28:00,267
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, golf's been pretty good. Yeah.

1592
01:28:00,387 --> 01:28:02,587
Speaker 29: Like I say, I go into the tournaments with a

1593
01:28:02,587 --> 01:28:04,547
Speaker 29: whole lot of expectations. Just go out there and play,

1594
01:28:04,627 --> 01:28:07,627
Speaker 29: and yes, things seem to be gone alright, so just

1595
01:28:07,827 --> 01:28:09,267
Speaker 29: keep going and ye see what happens.

1596
01:28:09,507 --> 01:28:13,067
Speaker 3: And if you found the support beyond the rope, Well,

1597
01:28:13,107 --> 01:28:13,587
Speaker 3: what's it been like?

1598
01:28:13,627 --> 01:28:15,307
Speaker 17: I suppose it feels like the numbers have come in

1599
01:28:15,347 --> 01:28:18,027
Speaker 17: today particular is a bit more you know, more ReVibe

1600
01:28:18,027 --> 01:28:18,347
Speaker 17: to the place.

1601
01:28:18,427 --> 01:28:19,947
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean this place is amazing.

1602
01:28:19,987 --> 01:28:22,267
Speaker 29: It's nice to go out early, I think on a

1603
01:28:22,307 --> 01:28:24,027
Speaker 29: Saturday and not really have to deal with too much

1604
01:28:24,067 --> 01:28:25,667
Speaker 29: of that. But I imagine tomorrow it's going to be

1605
01:28:25,747 --> 01:28:28,587
Speaker 29: pretty full on, so I've got to mentally prepare myself

1606
01:28:28,627 --> 01:28:28,787
Speaker 29: for that.

1607
01:28:29,027 --> 01:28:30,907
Speaker 3: Well, that's right there. You put yourself in that position,

1608
01:28:30,987 --> 01:28:31,667
Speaker 3: which is what you want.

1609
01:28:31,747 --> 01:28:33,387
Speaker 2: But how do you how do you do that? Is?

1610
01:28:33,467 --> 01:28:34,627
Speaker 3: Do you have sort of some techniques?

1611
01:28:35,467 --> 01:28:35,507
Speaker 11: No?

1612
01:28:35,747 --> 01:28:37,187
Speaker 5: Well, hopefully I'm not in the final group.

1613
01:28:38,067 --> 01:28:41,627
Speaker 29: It'll be a little bit less stress do it by still, yeah, exactly,

1614
01:28:41,747 --> 01:28:43,707
Speaker 29: Just try and fly but under the radar, which is

1615
01:28:43,907 --> 01:28:46,067
Speaker 29: what I've been able to do overseas because nobody knows

1616
01:28:46,187 --> 01:28:47,987
Speaker 29: who I am. But I think it's going to be

1617
01:28:48,027 --> 01:28:49,227
Speaker 29: a little bit different tomorrow. There's going to be a

1618
01:28:49,227 --> 01:28:51,627
Speaker 29: few people out there supporting. I'm sure a few other

1619
01:28:51,627 --> 01:28:53,387
Speaker 29: the Kiwi Boys will jump up there today as well

1620
01:28:53,427 --> 01:28:55,467
Speaker 29: and hopefully be amongst it at the end of the round.

1621
01:28:55,947 --> 01:28:57,787
Speaker 17: And tell us, I mean I was an eagle on

1622
01:28:57,787 --> 01:29:00,827
Speaker 17: the seventeenth I think I saw how did that unfold?

1623
01:29:01,307 --> 01:29:01,507
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1624
01:29:01,547 --> 01:29:03,387
Speaker 5: So I just had had a good drive down there.

1625
01:29:03,587 --> 01:29:06,307
Speaker 29: I had two eighty five cover on that left bunk

1626
01:29:06,387 --> 01:29:08,707
Speaker 29: here and managed to pot one down there and landed

1627
01:29:08,787 --> 01:29:10,747
Speaker 29: on the downslope and got down there pretty far. So

1628
01:29:10,787 --> 01:29:13,507
Speaker 29: I only had seven nine in there, rarely just trying

1629
01:29:13,507 --> 01:29:15,107
Speaker 29: to get it on the green in two part and yeah,

1630
01:29:15,267 --> 01:29:17,787
Speaker 29: it came out nicely and they had a nice straight

1631
01:29:17,827 --> 01:29:20,227
Speaker 29: part up the hill there thirteen feet and has rolled

1632
01:29:20,267 --> 01:29:20,387
Speaker 29: it in.

1633
01:29:20,627 --> 01:29:23,427
Speaker 3: That is Sam Jones speaking a short time ago to

1634
01:29:23,507 --> 01:29:27,547
Speaker 3: our man at the Golf Open, Andrew Alderson. Yes, so

1635
01:29:27,627 --> 01:29:30,187
Speaker 3: what a round today for Sam Jones, a ten underscore

1636
01:29:30,227 --> 01:29:33,627
Speaker 3: of sixty one that has him at fifteen under through

1637
01:29:33,747 --> 01:29:37,267
Speaker 3: three rounds. Now, talk about hot scoring. Good Tuckco, the

1638
01:29:37,467 --> 01:29:40,787
Speaker 3: Korean player who started the day in the outright lead

1639
01:29:40,907 --> 01:29:44,427
Speaker 3: at seventeen under, has gone three under through his first

1640
01:29:44,467 --> 01:29:49,387
Speaker 3: three holes today to be twenty under the cart twenty under.

1641
01:29:50,267 --> 01:29:53,867
Speaker 3: Goodness me, Sam Jones is in the clubhouse at fifteen under.

1642
01:29:53,987 --> 01:29:58,907
Speaker 3: James Makasani, the Victorian player, is also at fifteen under.

1643
01:29:58,947 --> 01:30:00,667
Speaker 3: He is one under through three holes today. Look, the

1644
01:30:00,747 --> 01:30:03,587
Speaker 3: scoring is so hot, so hot, it could be anything.

1645
01:30:04,267 --> 01:30:07,547
Speaker 3: Good Tuckco could finish today, he could be twenty five,

1646
01:30:07,667 --> 01:30:10,867
Speaker 3: twenty six under if it continues like this. We'll keep

1647
01:30:10,907 --> 01:30:14,347
Speaker 3: eyes on it for you. But it is a very

1648
01:30:14,787 --> 01:30:17,107
Speaker 3: very low scoring course out there. If we just scroll

1649
01:30:17,107 --> 01:30:20,027
Speaker 3: down to the other Kiwis Mark Brown currently is in

1650
01:30:20,107 --> 01:30:23,307
Speaker 3: a tie for fifth. He is seven under through fourteen

1651
01:30:23,347 --> 01:30:25,867
Speaker 3: holes today, thirteen under for the tournament. Then we come

1652
01:30:25,947 --> 01:30:28,227
Speaker 3: down to Michael Hendry who is twelve under the card.

1653
01:30:28,547 --> 01:30:31,387
Speaker 3: He's through five holes today at two under four his round,

1654
01:30:31,987 --> 01:30:33,587
Speaker 3: and then we've got to scroll all the way down

1655
01:30:33,627 --> 01:30:36,707
Speaker 3: to Josh Gary who is at ten under the card overall.

1656
01:30:36,987 --> 01:30:39,587
Speaker 3: He's even passed through six holes today. We'll keep you

1657
01:30:39,667 --> 01:30:41,587
Speaker 3: right up to date with everything from the Golf Open.

1658
01:30:41,627 --> 01:30:43,747
Speaker 3: In fact, let's head back there now because as well

1659
01:30:43,787 --> 01:30:48,067
Speaker 3: as the professionals playing, there are a number of amateurs

1660
01:30:48,107 --> 01:30:50,467
Speaker 3: as well. The pro am is part of this whole

1661
01:30:50,787 --> 01:30:53,747
Speaker 3: New Zealand Golf Open and included amongst the amateurs are

1662
01:30:53,827 --> 01:30:57,867
Speaker 3: a number of New Zealand Golf Open Ambassadors, one of

1663
01:30:57,947 --> 01:31:01,027
Speaker 3: who is former Australian cricket captain and one of the

1664
01:31:01,187 --> 01:31:05,147
Speaker 3: greats of the game globally, Ricky Ponting, who's come back

1665
01:31:05,227 --> 01:31:08,627
Speaker 3: many times to play this event. He joins us now

1666
01:31:08,667 --> 01:31:11,107
Speaker 3: on weekend sport haygn Ricky. Have you enjoyed your day?

1667
01:31:11,987 --> 01:31:14,707
Speaker 11: I had a great day, mate, the weather is spectacular,

1668
01:31:15,347 --> 01:31:17,147
Speaker 11: had a great group. I'm paired with the young Iusy

1669
01:31:17,187 --> 01:31:20,507
Speaker 11: boy Louis Dobbler, who had had a good day. Bob

1670
01:31:20,507 --> 01:31:22,667
Speaker 11: at his last hole for two under. I think our

1671
01:31:22,707 --> 01:31:25,067
Speaker 11: team scores ended up being some like seven under for

1672
01:31:25,187 --> 01:31:27,707
Speaker 11: the day, So we've had a great dum and this

1673
01:31:27,827 --> 01:31:29,587
Speaker 11: is this is the best week of the year.

1674
01:31:29,987 --> 01:31:30,907
Speaker 26: I say it every year.

1675
01:31:30,907 --> 01:31:32,707
Speaker 11: As soon as I get the invited, just block out

1676
01:31:32,747 --> 01:31:34,707
Speaker 11: that week and make sure that I'm right to come

1677
01:31:34,747 --> 01:31:38,147
Speaker 11: over here, because it's an incredible tournam It's a magnificent place,

1678
01:31:38,227 --> 01:31:40,707
Speaker 11: and I just feel very lucky to get the invite.

1679
01:31:41,787 --> 01:31:43,667
Speaker 26: Well, I think for the last eight and nineties anyway.

1680
01:31:43,427 --> 01:31:46,027
Speaker 3: Yeah, were you sort of premed a Monnick's question. It

1681
01:31:46,187 --> 01:31:48,947
Speaker 3: doesn't sound ricky as though they need to twist your

1682
01:31:49,027 --> 01:31:51,267
Speaker 3: arm very much to get your back every year.

1683
01:31:51,867 --> 01:31:53,707
Speaker 11: No, So as soon as I hold my last part

1684
01:31:53,867 --> 01:31:56,547
Speaker 11: on the Saturday or the Sunday here, I just hope

1685
01:31:56,707 --> 01:31:58,587
Speaker 11: hold my breath and hope that the invite comes for

1686
01:31:58,627 --> 01:31:59,147
Speaker 11: the next year.

1687
01:31:59,267 --> 01:32:00,427
Speaker 26: It's yeah.

1688
01:32:00,667 --> 01:32:03,307
Speaker 11: I mean, I'm a golf tragic anyway, So I love

1689
01:32:03,747 --> 01:32:05,867
Speaker 11: I love playing, but when you get an event like

1690
01:32:05,947 --> 01:32:08,187
Speaker 11: this that is extra special when you talk to all

1691
01:32:08,187 --> 01:32:11,187
Speaker 11: the players, and the players talk about just how good

1692
01:32:11,187 --> 01:32:13,427
Speaker 11: a week this is, and then us as ambassadors and

1693
01:32:13,467 --> 01:32:15,627
Speaker 11: amateurs to be able to come and hang out with

1694
01:32:15,707 --> 01:32:17,067
Speaker 11: them and play with them and.

1695
01:32:17,187 --> 01:32:18,747
Speaker 26: Just you know, sort of see how good they are

1696
01:32:18,907 --> 01:32:19,947
Speaker 26: and sample some.

1697
01:32:20,027 --> 01:32:23,867
Speaker 11: Of their great hospitality that Coinstown and the New Zealand

1698
01:32:23,907 --> 01:32:25,907
Speaker 11: put on for us, it's an incredible week.

1699
01:32:26,107 --> 01:32:29,387
Speaker 3: Golf, of course, is pretty popular with a variety of

1700
01:32:29,467 --> 01:32:31,947
Speaker 3: sports people, you know, from rugby to rugby league, but

1701
01:32:32,067 --> 01:32:36,227
Speaker 3: in particular cricket. Cricketers seem to really love their golf.

1702
01:32:36,307 --> 01:32:38,627
Speaker 3: And I don't know this to be true, but it

1703
01:32:38,627 --> 01:32:42,667
Speaker 3: seems like more cricketers play golf then they play anything

1704
01:32:42,707 --> 01:32:44,667
Speaker 3: else apart from their own sport. What do you think

1705
01:32:45,027 --> 01:32:46,107
Speaker 3: cricketers love their golf?

1706
01:32:47,147 --> 01:32:49,587
Speaker 11: Look, I think that I think the skills are quite similar. Obviously,

1707
01:32:49,627 --> 01:32:51,587
Speaker 11: the hand eye coordination, so that's probably a big part

1708
01:32:51,627 --> 01:32:54,507
Speaker 11: of it. I mean, you don't normally enjoy doing things

1709
01:32:54,547 --> 01:32:55,987
Speaker 11: if you're not very good at them, So I think

1710
01:32:56,787 --> 01:32:59,867
Speaker 11: I think cricketers are generally reasonably good at golf as

1711
01:32:59,907 --> 01:33:02,507
Speaker 11: they are at tennis. There's a lot of good cricket

1712
01:33:02,547 --> 01:33:04,347
Speaker 11: players that are very good tennis players as well. So

1713
01:33:04,627 --> 01:33:06,947
Speaker 11: and I think the thing for you know, with cricket,

1714
01:33:06,947 --> 01:33:09,027
Speaker 11: as you're touring all the time, you know, you go

1715
01:33:09,107 --> 01:33:11,227
Speaker 11: to places like well here you come to the Company,

1716
01:33:11,227 --> 01:33:12,387
Speaker 11: New Zealand and you go to the UK, you go

1717
01:33:12,427 --> 01:33:13,987
Speaker 11: to South Africa, you go to some places where you

1718
01:33:14,707 --> 01:33:17,187
Speaker 11: actually can play a lot of golf and play some

1719
01:33:17,307 --> 01:33:20,067
Speaker 11: really good golf. And you know, I know most cricket

1720
01:33:20,067 --> 01:33:22,387
Speaker 11: tours that I went on, the golf clubs normally found

1721
01:33:22,387 --> 01:33:24,147
Speaker 11: their way onto the plane with him as well. So

1722
01:33:24,987 --> 01:33:26,547
Speaker 11: and the more and more, the more and more of

1723
01:33:26,587 --> 01:33:28,467
Speaker 11: this tweet t twenty stuff that the boys are playing

1724
01:33:28,547 --> 01:33:30,787
Speaker 11: gives them more of a chance to play more golf.

1725
01:33:30,907 --> 01:33:33,467
Speaker 26: So yeah, I think that the games go hand in hat.

1726
01:33:33,907 --> 01:33:36,947
Speaker 3: Now, during your career, Rickie, you faced the fastest bowlers

1727
01:33:36,987 --> 01:33:39,067
Speaker 3: in the world, and I'd presume that there was a

1728
01:33:39,147 --> 01:33:42,187
Speaker 3: bit of trepidation around that, a bit of adrenaline pumping

1729
01:33:42,227 --> 01:33:45,707
Speaker 3: through the veins. What about standing on the first t

1730
01:33:46,347 --> 01:33:48,227
Speaker 3: at an event like this? Is there is there any

1731
01:33:48,307 --> 01:33:49,507
Speaker 3: trepidation that comes with that?

1732
01:33:50,547 --> 01:33:51,587
Speaker 26: Oh more, mate, more.

1733
01:33:51,627 --> 01:33:54,627
Speaker 11: I'm not sure what my heart rate got to as

1734
01:33:54,667 --> 01:33:57,947
Speaker 11: a batsman facing Cheryl Backtar, but I'll guarantee you on

1735
01:33:58,067 --> 01:34:00,627
Speaker 11: the first tee here, when you've got a few hundred

1736
01:34:00,627 --> 01:34:02,467
Speaker 11: people standing around you and you're out of your comfort

1737
01:34:02,467 --> 01:34:04,187
Speaker 11: sat I reckon my heart rate. It's a bit high now.

1738
01:34:04,267 --> 01:34:06,387
Speaker 11: Then it dipped back when I was playing cricket. But

1739
01:34:06,587 --> 01:34:08,467
Speaker 11: I mean that's the beauty of it, right, Like I

1740
01:34:08,507 --> 01:34:12,427
Speaker 11: think as ex professional sportsman, you like to be challenged

1741
01:34:12,467 --> 01:34:12,627
Speaker 11: like that.

1742
01:34:12,907 --> 01:34:15,147
Speaker 26: You want to get the art rate going again.

1743
01:34:15,187 --> 01:34:17,227
Speaker 11: You want to be in a sort of a competitive

1744
01:34:17,547 --> 01:34:19,707
Speaker 11: environment because once you've you know, once you've played as

1745
01:34:19,747 --> 01:34:21,667
Speaker 11: long as I did, you know, seven and eighteen years

1746
01:34:21,707 --> 01:34:24,307
Speaker 11: or whatever, and then you finally retire, the competition in

1747
01:34:24,387 --> 01:34:26,067
Speaker 11: your life just stops. So to be able to replace

1748
01:34:26,147 --> 01:34:28,707
Speaker 11: it with something like this on a slightly different level.

1749
01:34:28,747 --> 01:34:30,307
Speaker 11: And we're not playing for any money, but you're playing

1750
01:34:30,307 --> 01:34:32,107
Speaker 11: for a bit of pride, and as if you are

1751
01:34:32,107 --> 01:34:33,747
Speaker 11: the cricket's year that I played against, you know, Steve

1752
01:34:33,787 --> 01:34:35,227
Speaker 11: flam I'm pretty keen.

1753
01:34:35,187 --> 01:34:37,947
Speaker 26: To make sure I beat Steven Flaming this week. With

1754
01:34:38,107 --> 01:34:40,907
Speaker 26: that on, With that said, the heart rate definitely stays up.

1755
01:34:40,987 --> 01:34:43,307
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just on the other ambassadors there, and you

1756
01:34:43,387 --> 01:34:45,947
Speaker 3: mentioned Fleam, Jeff Wilson's there of course, as Ralph Dagg,

1757
01:34:45,987 --> 01:34:48,747
Speaker 3: the former All Black, A Hayden padd and Tim eber Crombie,

1758
01:34:48,787 --> 01:34:50,907
Speaker 3: Richie McCaw who we hope to catch up with at

1759
01:34:50,947 --> 01:34:53,867
Speaker 3: some states this afternoon as well. Is there a mini

1760
01:34:53,987 --> 01:34:58,027
Speaker 3: competition going on among the ambassador ambassadors even a bit

1761
01:34:58,067 --> 01:34:59,027
Speaker 3: of a friendly competition.

1762
01:35:00,027 --> 01:35:01,827
Speaker 11: We haven't we I mean, we don't sit around and

1763
01:35:01,867 --> 01:35:04,747
Speaker 11: say that we'll actually have a bed on it or whatever.

1764
01:35:04,827 --> 01:35:07,027
Speaker 11: But I think deep down there's a bit of competition

1765
01:35:07,147 --> 01:35:09,707
Speaker 11: going on. Yeah, you know proor Ol Jeff Wilson, we're

1766
01:35:09,707 --> 01:35:11,467
Speaker 11: talking about it last night. I I think he's been

1767
01:35:11,547 --> 01:35:13,227
Speaker 11: here for sort of eleven or twelve years straight and

1768
01:35:13,267 --> 01:35:15,347
Speaker 11: he hasn't made the cut once yet. So I think

1769
01:35:15,387 --> 01:35:17,707
Speaker 11: we're as ambassadors, we've all got his fingers crossed and

1770
01:35:17,747 --> 01:35:19,667
Speaker 11: hope that he can pull his finger out and make

1771
01:35:19,747 --> 01:35:22,787
Speaker 11: the cut at least once. But no, I mean they're

1772
01:35:22,787 --> 01:35:25,427
Speaker 11: pride of it. Yeah, I mean you want you just

1773
01:35:25,467 --> 01:35:27,467
Speaker 11: want to. I mean not even so much that you

1774
01:35:27,547 --> 01:35:29,347
Speaker 11: want to, you just actually want to be involved in

1775
01:35:29,387 --> 01:35:31,627
Speaker 11: the tournament as long as you can, so you know,

1776
01:35:31,747 --> 01:35:33,787
Speaker 11: qualify going into sad Day and then if you're good

1777
01:35:33,867 --> 01:35:34,387
Speaker 11: enough to get.

1778
01:35:34,227 --> 01:35:36,347
Speaker 26: Into the last ten groups on Sunday, then you know

1779
01:35:36,427 --> 01:35:37,587
Speaker 26: that's what it's all about.

1780
01:35:37,667 --> 01:35:40,067
Speaker 3: Yeah, And just to finish, Ricky, you're in one of

1781
01:35:40,107 --> 01:35:43,227
Speaker 3: the most beautiful parts of New Zealand and you've obviously

1782
01:35:44,067 --> 01:35:45,467
Speaker 3: told us how much you love it down there, But

1783
01:35:45,507 --> 01:35:48,787
Speaker 3: do you still look around at the scenery sometimes around Millbrook,

1784
01:35:48,827 --> 01:35:52,187
Speaker 3: the remarkables around Queenstown, and just marvel at it and think, man,

1785
01:35:52,547 --> 01:35:55,147
Speaker 3: this looks like it's just been painted by somebody.

1786
01:35:56,587 --> 01:35:57,227
Speaker 26: It's exactly that.

1787
01:35:57,347 --> 01:35:59,707
Speaker 11: I mean, as I said, I've been lucky enough to

1788
01:35:59,707 --> 01:36:01,827
Speaker 11: come here for eight or nine New Zealand opens, but

1789
01:36:02,347 --> 01:36:05,067
Speaker 11: I actually bring my family here every year, skiing in

1790
01:36:05,147 --> 01:36:05,947
Speaker 11: the winter time as well.

1791
01:36:05,947 --> 01:36:09,627
Speaker 26: So checking the resort here on Tuesday.

1792
01:36:09,307 --> 01:36:11,867
Speaker 11: Afternoon at Millbrook and the lady said, would you like

1793
01:36:11,947 --> 01:36:13,227
Speaker 11: it map for the resort.

1794
01:36:12,947 --> 01:36:14,547
Speaker 26: And thence you looked at my check and thing against

1795
01:36:14,547 --> 01:36:16,187
Speaker 26: you said, oh no, you might be okay.

1796
01:36:16,227 --> 01:36:18,507
Speaker 11: I can see that this is your seventeenth time staying

1797
01:36:18,667 --> 01:36:21,027
Speaker 11: at Millbrook, So I didn't. I didn't need the map

1798
01:36:21,067 --> 01:36:23,467
Speaker 11: to get around. I know this is This is undoubtedly

1799
01:36:23,507 --> 01:36:24,467
Speaker 11: my favorite place in the world.

1800
01:36:24,507 --> 01:36:25,467
Speaker 26: I say. I say it to everyone.

1801
01:36:25,907 --> 01:36:28,427
Speaker 11: I've been lucky to travel all over the world, through

1802
01:36:28,507 --> 01:36:31,707
Speaker 11: the States, through you, You're, through the Caribbean, wherever it

1803
01:36:31,827 --> 01:36:32,067
Speaker 11: might be.

1804
01:36:33,227 --> 01:36:34,987
Speaker 26: Queenstown is my favorite place in the world. And I

1805
01:36:35,107 --> 01:36:37,107
Speaker 26: tell that to everybody. And that's not just because of

1806
01:36:37,147 --> 01:36:37,467
Speaker 26: the golf.

1807
01:36:37,547 --> 01:36:39,507
Speaker 11: It's the scheme that you can do and everything else

1808
01:36:39,587 --> 01:36:43,387
Speaker 11: you can do here with your family. It's amazing. So look,

1809
01:36:43,707 --> 01:36:46,267
Speaker 11: if the invite keeps coming one hundredercent, keep coming back,

1810
01:36:46,907 --> 01:36:49,427
Speaker 11: I'll keep coming back with the skiing stuff during the winter.

1811
01:36:49,547 --> 01:36:52,307
Speaker 11: In fact, I'm going to catch up with the head

1812
01:36:52,307 --> 01:36:54,107
Speaker 11: at Millbrook here and make sure I've got my trip

1813
01:36:54,147 --> 01:36:56,627
Speaker 11: booked in for later this year, probably in September this year.

1814
01:36:56,707 --> 01:36:58,987
Speaker 26: And yeah, I'll be back again. Do about that?

1815
01:36:59,107 --> 01:37:00,987
Speaker 3: Yeah, brilliant stuff. Rickie, Hey, thanks so much for taking

1816
01:37:01,027 --> 01:37:03,027
Speaker 3: the time out of your weekend to chat to us

1817
01:37:03,187 --> 01:37:04,547
Speaker 3: all the beast for the rest of it. Great to

1818
01:37:04,627 --> 01:37:06,027
Speaker 3: have you in town, and thanks for chatting to us

1819
01:37:06,027 --> 01:37:06,267
Speaker 3: the South.

1820
01:37:06,907 --> 01:37:08,547
Speaker 26: Thanks mate, Good on you, No, good on you, Ricky.

1821
01:37:08,587 --> 01:37:11,987
Speaker 3: Thanks indeed. Ricky Ponting there from Melbrook where he's part

1822
01:37:12,027 --> 01:37:14,507
Speaker 3: of the pro am and one of the New Zealand

1823
01:37:14,547 --> 01:37:18,187
Speaker 3: Golf Opens ambassadors for twenty twenty five. Dozen Sanders are

1824
01:37:18,187 --> 01:37:20,387
Speaker 3: say so they needed to twist his arm very much

1825
01:37:20,787 --> 01:37:24,827
Speaker 3: to come back his favorite place in the world. Outstanding stuff.

1826
01:37:25,027 --> 01:37:27,227
Speaker 3: Great to have Ricky Ponting in town. As always to

1827
01:37:27,507 --> 01:37:29,947
Speaker 3: twenty one. We gotta take a break when we come back.

1828
01:37:30,067 --> 01:37:32,267
Speaker 3: It's to horse racing. The inaugural four and a half

1829
01:37:32,667 --> 01:37:35,867
Speaker 3: million dollar in New Zealand bloodstot Keiw at Allesleie Race

1830
01:37:35,947 --> 01:37:38,547
Speaker 3: Course next Saturday. We'll talk to one of the jockeys,

1831
01:37:38,707 --> 01:37:40,067
Speaker 3: Samantha Win when we come.

1832
01:37:40,027 --> 01:37:43,907
Speaker 1: Back the Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport

1833
01:37:44,307 --> 01:37:48,747
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vyne and GJ Gunnos New Zealand's

1834
01:37:48,747 --> 01:37:50,147
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder.

1835
01:37:49,947 --> 01:37:52,787
Speaker 3: News Talks, News Talks. He'll be two twenty four just

1836
01:37:52,867 --> 01:37:55,027
Speaker 3: updating you on some live sport which is happening around

1837
01:37:55,027 --> 01:37:56,987
Speaker 3: the country at the moment. In the final of the

1838
01:37:57,107 --> 01:38:00,147
Speaker 3: halle Burton Johnston Shield, this is the women's fifty over

1839
01:38:00,227 --> 01:38:04,147
Speaker 3: domestic competition. Auckland have posted two hundred and ninety one

1840
01:38:04,307 --> 01:38:08,107
Speaker 3: for five batting first against Otago at the University of

1841
01:38:08,467 --> 01:38:13,627
Speaker 3: Otago Oval in Dunedin. The headline act Maddy Green one

1842
01:38:13,787 --> 01:38:16,467
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty six off one hundred and twenty three balls,

1843
01:38:17,347 --> 01:38:21,627
Speaker 3: helped by Lauren Downs ninety off eighty nine so two

1844
01:38:21,747 --> 01:38:25,747
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety one for five. Otago will come out

1845
01:38:25,787 --> 01:38:27,947
Speaker 3: shortly in their chase for two hundred and ninety two

1846
01:38:28,427 --> 01:38:31,827
Speaker 3: to win the Halliburton Johnston Shield. And Super Rugby OPICKI

1847
01:38:32,107 --> 01:38:36,387
Speaker 3: is underway with chiefs Manawa up against Matatu at FMG Stadium,

1848
01:38:36,427 --> 01:38:40,547
Speaker 3: Waikatal in Hamilton. Seventeen minutes gone, no score in that one.

1849
01:38:40,827 --> 01:38:42,787
Speaker 3: We're back to the New Zealand Golf Open as well

1850
01:38:43,147 --> 01:38:44,947
Speaker 3: inside the next half an hour. But let's go to

1851
01:38:45,027 --> 01:38:48,107
Speaker 3: horse racing. The inaugural four and a half million en

1852
01:38:48,267 --> 01:38:52,187
Speaker 3: z B KIWI is on at Alisy Race Course next Saturday. Now,

1853
01:38:52,267 --> 01:38:55,267
Speaker 3: Pivotal ten has been selected to run in the race,

1854
01:38:55,307 --> 01:38:58,347
Speaker 3: almost coming from nowhere to become the surprise star of

1855
01:38:58,387 --> 01:39:02,827
Speaker 3: the South and being described as the People's horse. Pivotal

1856
01:39:02,867 --> 01:39:07,107
Speaker 3: ten was purchased for just fifteen thousand dollars at the

1857
01:39:07,147 --> 01:39:10,907
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two New Zealand Bloodstock National Weenling Sale. Three

1858
01:39:10,987 --> 01:39:13,467
Speaker 3: years on, she'll race for a share of four and

1859
01:39:13,507 --> 01:39:17,067
Speaker 3: a half million in the Southern Hemisphere's richest race for

1860
01:39:17,107 --> 01:39:21,027
Speaker 3: three year olds and New Zealand's richest annual sporting event.

1861
01:39:21,427 --> 01:39:24,387
Speaker 3: She is unbeaten in her last five starts for trainer

1862
01:39:24,467 --> 01:39:28,307
Speaker 3: and jockey Samantha Wynn, who joins us Now, sam thanks

1863
01:39:28,347 --> 01:39:31,827
Speaker 3: for joining us. How is Pivotal ten risen to prominence

1864
01:39:32,027 --> 01:39:35,587
Speaker 3: and success so quickly and so spectacularly?

1865
01:39:36,827 --> 01:39:38,867
Speaker 7: She's just tends to be the ould in a professional

1866
01:39:39,627 --> 01:39:43,787
Speaker 7: and I must say she's probably trained very well. No, Look,

1867
01:39:43,867 --> 01:39:47,827
Speaker 7: she she's superstar here. She's just got a lovely, laid

1868
01:39:47,827 --> 01:39:50,427
Speaker 7: back nature and really loves loves her racing.

1869
01:39:51,427 --> 01:39:53,907
Speaker 3: In terms of the way you train her, Are there

1870
01:39:53,947 --> 01:39:57,067
Speaker 3: any specifics to that, anything that you do that is

1871
01:39:57,227 --> 01:40:00,227
Speaker 3: unique to you or I mean, what has been the

1872
01:40:01,067 --> 01:40:03,627
Speaker 3: bedrock of the success that you've found with Pivotal ten.

1873
01:40:04,547 --> 01:40:06,787
Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, I don't think you. I think every trying

1874
01:40:06,827 --> 01:40:09,347
Speaker 7: to hit their own regime, you know, and what I've

1875
01:40:09,387 --> 01:40:11,587
Speaker 7: picked up over the years walking from many trainers, and

1876
01:40:11,747 --> 01:40:13,787
Speaker 7: you kind of just put it into practice, but you

1877
01:40:13,947 --> 01:40:16,347
Speaker 7: kind of it's trial and error, still loads to learn.

1878
01:40:18,187 --> 01:40:19,347
Speaker 17: Well, look, it's just all.

1879
01:40:19,227 --> 01:40:23,147
Speaker 7: About keeping the hearse fit, happy and healthy is the start,

1880
01:40:23,267 --> 01:40:24,667
Speaker 7: you know, and then the rest is really up to

1881
01:40:24,707 --> 01:40:29,027
Speaker 7: their ability most of the time. But she's very straightforward

1882
01:40:29,027 --> 01:40:32,307
Speaker 7: to trying. They said, the good ones trying themselves. But look, yeah,

1883
01:40:32,387 --> 01:40:35,707
Speaker 7: still learning about our and hopefully they's a bit Marke corn.

1884
01:40:35,667 --> 01:40:38,787
Speaker 3: Well sounds like they will be. Are the same philosophies

1885
01:40:38,827 --> 01:40:43,387
Speaker 3: of training horses, you know, are the transferable across every

1886
01:40:43,427 --> 01:40:46,027
Speaker 3: horse or is every horse just slightly unique?

1887
01:40:46,907 --> 01:40:49,267
Speaker 7: Yeah? Every horse has their own characteristics. You know, a

1888
01:40:49,307 --> 01:40:50,947
Speaker 7: lot of them are straightforward. A lot of them can

1889
01:40:50,987 --> 01:40:54,387
Speaker 7: be very hard work, and the quirky ones and normally

1890
01:40:54,387 --> 01:40:56,147
Speaker 7: the ones with a lot of ability to you know,

1891
01:40:56,307 --> 01:40:59,107
Speaker 7: but you treat them individually and try and get the

1892
01:40:59,147 --> 01:41:01,147
Speaker 7: best out of them, because if you try and treat

1893
01:41:01,187 --> 01:41:03,587
Speaker 7: them all the same, you probably wouldn't get a good result.

1894
01:41:04,107 --> 01:41:06,147
Speaker 3: One of Pivotal teams most recent wins came in the

1895
01:41:06,387 --> 01:41:09,547
Speaker 3: Athlen Guinea's an absolute demolition job, winning by more than

1896
01:41:09,627 --> 01:41:11,547
Speaker 3: eight lengths. How do you reflect on that?

1897
01:41:11,707 --> 01:41:11,907
Speaker 14: Rice?

1898
01:41:12,827 --> 01:41:14,707
Speaker 7: Look, it was something else. So she blew me away,

1899
01:41:14,747 --> 01:41:16,667
Speaker 7: to be honestly, because of her track work at home.

1900
01:41:16,787 --> 01:41:19,387
Speaker 7: She doesn't work like a champion at home, you know,

1901
01:41:19,547 --> 01:41:21,347
Speaker 7: like she doesn't show you any signs of what she's

1902
01:41:21,427 --> 01:41:24,987
Speaker 7: capable of. When she steps out onto the track. She's

1903
01:41:25,107 --> 01:41:28,827
Speaker 7: just the switches into race mode, you know, and she

1904
01:41:28,947 --> 01:41:31,987
Speaker 7: seems happy in herself and just loves at work. But

1905
01:41:33,307 --> 01:41:35,907
Speaker 7: she's got a lot of ability, a lot of natural ability.

1906
01:41:36,027 --> 01:41:37,307
Speaker 7: So I'm just blessed to have her.

1907
01:41:37,587 --> 01:41:39,907
Speaker 3: So you didn't really have You must have had an

1908
01:41:39,947 --> 01:41:42,867
Speaker 3: inkling though that that she was capable of something like that.

1909
01:41:43,947 --> 01:41:46,987
Speaker 7: Not really, to be honest, like she's she just keeps

1910
01:41:46,987 --> 01:41:48,907
Speaker 7: stepping up each time we bring her to the races.

1911
01:41:48,947 --> 01:41:53,307
Speaker 7: You know, she's maturing as we go. I wrote her

1912
01:41:53,347 --> 01:41:55,947
Speaker 7: actually in a fourth twelve for another trainer and she

1913
01:41:56,147 --> 01:41:58,107
Speaker 7: you know, she was only a two year old baby then,

1914
01:41:58,187 --> 01:42:00,147
Speaker 7: but didn't really get much of a fail of her

1915
01:42:01,987 --> 01:42:04,267
Speaker 7: and just thought she needed to mature. And she's still matured.

1916
01:42:04,267 --> 01:42:05,867
Speaker 7: And don't get me wrong, but she still has a

1917
01:42:05,947 --> 01:42:08,747
Speaker 7: bit of filling out to do, but she's stepping up

1918
01:42:08,787 --> 01:42:12,027
Speaker 7: each time and she seems happy. She loves her food,

1919
01:42:12,187 --> 01:42:13,987
Speaker 7: which is the key to a lot of phillies. You know,

1920
01:42:14,067 --> 01:42:15,747
Speaker 7: as long as they're eating like I tend to try

1921
01:42:15,787 --> 01:42:18,227
Speaker 7: and a lot out the feed, then is they're not eating,

1922
01:42:18,267 --> 01:42:20,427
Speaker 7: you just back off them a little bit. But yeah,

1923
01:42:20,467 --> 01:42:22,227
Speaker 7: they definitely have to be happy in their mind.

1924
01:42:22,787 --> 01:42:25,347
Speaker 3: And you're the first female jockey confirmed for the New

1925
01:42:25,427 --> 01:42:28,547
Speaker 3: Zealand Bloodstock. Keywait, was this one you were targeting personally?

1926
01:42:29,667 --> 01:42:32,227
Speaker 7: No, no, not all. Actually I see Sam Spratt, who's

1927
01:42:32,227 --> 01:42:33,947
Speaker 7: an amazing rider. She has a ride in the race

1928
01:42:34,027 --> 01:42:38,867
Speaker 7: and deservedly so. Now look, we had no no intest,

1929
01:42:38,947 --> 01:42:40,587
Speaker 7: not that I didn't have interest in the race, but

1930
01:42:40,787 --> 01:42:42,627
Speaker 7: it didn't really look too much into it because one

1931
01:42:42,667 --> 01:42:44,787
Speaker 7: you have to be selected to run into it and

1932
01:42:45,587 --> 01:42:48,227
Speaker 7: the South Island horses don't get a look in normally,

1933
01:42:48,347 --> 01:42:51,627
Speaker 7: you know, And she's just come on the scene and

1934
01:42:53,507 --> 01:42:55,347
Speaker 7: really put herself on the map, you know, So I

1935
01:42:55,427 --> 01:42:57,587
Speaker 7: think she deserves a crack. The owner deserves a crack.

1936
01:42:57,627 --> 01:42:59,907
Speaker 7: The owner's very kind to me and he's really good

1937
01:42:59,947 --> 01:43:02,547
Speaker 7: to trying for so he deserves it as much as

1938
01:43:02,547 --> 01:43:03,507
Speaker 7: the team at home. You know.

1939
01:43:04,067 --> 01:43:05,987
Speaker 3: How do you balance training with rodding?

1940
01:43:07,307 --> 01:43:09,867
Speaker 7: Oh It's very challenging sometimes, you know. But I've got

1941
01:43:09,947 --> 01:43:12,827
Speaker 7: great team of staff at home that I know all

1942
01:43:12,907 --> 01:43:15,267
Speaker 7: bases have covered well. I head away to the races,

1943
01:43:15,347 --> 01:43:17,027
Speaker 7: you know, I have to look after them well, just

1944
01:43:17,067 --> 01:43:19,027
Speaker 7: that I know that they look after with the love

1945
01:43:19,067 --> 01:43:20,707
Speaker 7: and care that I do, you know, and you need that,

1946
01:43:21,307 --> 01:43:23,707
Speaker 7: and so just having a good balance and trying not

1947
01:43:23,787 --> 01:43:26,987
Speaker 7: to overdo it. It is hard sometimes because sometimes you

1948
01:43:27,107 --> 01:43:28,907
Speaker 7: just want to hand the reins over and say it's

1949
01:43:28,947 --> 01:43:31,187
Speaker 7: up to the jockey now. But I'm in the jockey,

1950
01:43:31,227 --> 01:43:32,707
Speaker 7: so I just don't need to get a bit of

1951
01:43:32,707 --> 01:43:35,107
Speaker 7: a break. But at the same time, I bloody love it,

1952
01:43:35,227 --> 01:43:35,387
Speaker 7: you know.

1953
01:43:36,187 --> 01:43:40,147
Speaker 3: Is it common same as what you do training and riding?

1954
01:43:40,307 --> 01:43:41,387
Speaker 3: Is that common or not?

1955
01:43:42,227 --> 01:43:47,147
Speaker 7: I don't think so. To be honest, not many. I

1956
01:43:47,187 --> 01:43:49,107
Speaker 7: think there's one lady trying to know she has a

1957
01:43:49,147 --> 01:43:51,827
Speaker 7: few and work, But I go up to about eighteen,

1958
01:43:51,907 --> 01:43:54,507
Speaker 7: I'm up there and like having a gusty Royds look.

1959
01:43:54,547 --> 01:43:56,587
Speaker 7: It's I don't even think the steward they're a fan

1960
01:43:56,667 --> 01:43:58,707
Speaker 7: of what I'm doing, because it's probably spreading myselves out

1961
01:43:58,747 --> 01:44:00,147
Speaker 7: of the breath of the moment. I seem to be

1962
01:44:00,267 --> 01:44:03,827
Speaker 7: managing okay mentally and physically physically, Probably more is the

1963
01:44:03,907 --> 01:44:06,667
Speaker 7: challenging part because I've had a good few fall over

1964
01:44:06,707 --> 01:44:09,587
Speaker 7: the years and his body is not in great shape anymore,

1965
01:44:11,227 --> 01:44:13,067
Speaker 7: so I have to be mindful of that as well.

1966
01:44:13,147 --> 01:44:15,507
Speaker 3: You know, But do you think that do you think

1967
01:44:15,507 --> 01:44:17,907
Speaker 3: the two can be complimentary? Do you think like being

1968
01:44:17,947 --> 01:44:20,507
Speaker 3: a trying to helps you with riding and vice versa.

1969
01:44:21,147 --> 01:44:23,387
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, it helps me understand what I was in

1970
01:44:23,467 --> 01:44:26,147
Speaker 7: behind the scenes, and you know how much it cost

1971
01:44:26,227 --> 01:44:28,587
Speaker 7: to get a horse to the races. So I definitely

1972
01:44:28,627 --> 01:44:31,867
Speaker 7: try harder, try and have for every trainer, but definitely

1973
01:44:31,867 --> 01:44:33,467
Speaker 7: not more understanding.

1974
01:44:32,947 --> 01:44:33,307
Speaker 4: Of it now.

1975
01:44:33,827 --> 01:44:36,107
Speaker 7: Like I was speaking to someone a traptoid this morning,

1976
01:44:36,187 --> 01:44:40,227
Speaker 7: then you know, somewhat like, yeah, I've got the nerves

1977
01:44:40,267 --> 01:44:43,507
Speaker 7: of doing the job now on the court. But also

1978
01:44:43,667 --> 01:44:46,867
Speaker 7: I know that I know we'll walk down into the race.

1979
01:44:46,907 --> 01:44:49,067
Speaker 7: I think he's an advantage ring out the horse inside,

1980
01:44:49,307 --> 01:44:52,587
Speaker 7: you know. I think there is big advantages to that.

1981
01:44:53,067 --> 01:44:55,387
Speaker 3: You talked before about being in a couple of falls.

1982
01:44:55,427 --> 01:44:57,467
Speaker 3: Of course, there was that horrendous accident at the end

1983
01:44:57,507 --> 01:45:00,067
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty two. You are one of four riders

1984
01:45:00,147 --> 01:45:02,027
Speaker 3: injured in a fatal race in Ashburn and twenty six

1985
01:45:02,107 --> 01:45:04,987
Speaker 3: year old cross You try to Magan Taylor died that day.

1986
01:45:05,507 --> 01:45:08,227
Speaker 3: How do you reflect on that time in your life?

1987
01:45:10,187 --> 01:45:13,147
Speaker 3: Very very hard, hard.

1988
01:45:13,067 --> 01:45:15,907
Speaker 7: Thing to go through, like for anybody, like our family.

1989
01:45:16,027 --> 01:45:17,867
Speaker 7: I just I can't take get her family out of

1990
01:45:17,947 --> 01:45:19,867
Speaker 7: my head, you know a lot of the time, and

1991
01:45:20,867 --> 01:45:23,107
Speaker 7: I know that they're lovely people. She was just an

1992
01:45:23,107 --> 01:45:26,227
Speaker 7: amazing girl. She brightened up the room. She saw from

1993
01:45:26,267 --> 01:45:29,267
Speaker 7: the jockeys room, the girl's jockeys room. Can we have

1994
01:45:29,427 --> 01:45:32,147
Speaker 7: work sometimes, but she really brought a good balance to it,

1995
01:45:32,227 --> 01:45:34,147
Speaker 7: and she saw fened us all around us. She's just

1996
01:45:34,267 --> 01:45:37,867
Speaker 7: been She was an amazing girl. And one of the

1997
01:45:37,907 --> 01:45:40,027
Speaker 7: reasons why I am keeping going this for her. I'm

1998
01:45:40,067 --> 01:45:41,627
Speaker 7: trying to do me best for her.

1999
01:45:41,747 --> 01:45:41,907
Speaker 6: You know.

2000
01:45:43,627 --> 01:45:45,867
Speaker 7: It's just very sad she was so young, but look,

2001
01:45:46,187 --> 01:45:48,187
Speaker 7: we all we didn't have to move on. And I

2002
01:45:48,267 --> 01:45:50,427
Speaker 7: think of her all the time, you know, and a

2003
01:45:50,507 --> 01:45:51,907
Speaker 7: lot of it is in honor of Gore.

2004
01:45:53,067 --> 01:45:56,387
Speaker 3: Did you have any trepidation returning to riding after that?

2005
01:45:57,467 --> 01:45:59,707
Speaker 7: A little bit? Like originally when I found out the

2006
01:45:59,787 --> 01:46:02,947
Speaker 7: outcome on the day, I said that I didn't think

2007
01:46:02,987 --> 01:46:04,987
Speaker 7: I was going to ride anymore. Like I've been in

2008
01:46:05,067 --> 01:46:07,827
Speaker 7: three races now where three girls have passed away. So

2009
01:46:07,987 --> 01:46:09,987
Speaker 7: it's and I don't want to do it in my family,

2010
01:46:10,067 --> 01:46:12,467
Speaker 7: you know, getting that phone call. It the phone call

2011
01:46:12,627 --> 01:46:15,747
Speaker 7: was bad enough when when I was brought down too,

2012
01:46:15,867 --> 01:46:18,947
Speaker 7: but look it's just them. Yeah, a fear. You fear

2013
01:46:19,027 --> 01:46:21,027
Speaker 7: the outcome, obviously, But at the same time, if I

2014
01:46:21,067 --> 01:46:23,347
Speaker 7: thought like that, I wouldn't be out there. I'm really

2015
01:46:23,467 --> 01:46:25,467
Speaker 7: enjoying where I am at the moment. I didn't think

2016
01:46:25,507 --> 01:46:29,547
Speaker 7: I get that confidence back. But training and riding me

2017
01:46:29,587 --> 01:46:32,667
Speaker 7: on horses is just a dream like you, I can't

2018
01:46:32,707 --> 01:46:34,507
Speaker 7: describe it. I'm very lucky on you.

2019
01:46:34,947 --> 01:46:38,107
Speaker 3: And do you get nervous aside from the you know,

2020
01:46:38,307 --> 01:46:41,867
Speaker 3: I guess the physical danger that you you put yourself in.

2021
01:46:42,067 --> 01:46:44,147
Speaker 3: Do you get nervous for big events? You're nervous, just

2022
01:46:44,227 --> 01:46:45,307
Speaker 3: you know, just before you jump.

2023
01:46:45,947 --> 01:46:49,547
Speaker 7: Ah, yeah, yeah, I'm only humans and the definitely, but look,

2024
01:46:49,787 --> 01:46:52,387
Speaker 7: I kind of you have to put it aside once

2025
01:46:52,387 --> 01:46:54,627
Speaker 7: you're on the horse, you know. I think once I

2026
01:46:54,707 --> 01:46:56,507
Speaker 7: go in the gate, it's just all put to the

2027
01:46:56,587 --> 01:46:57,907
Speaker 7: back of your head ring and you just have to

2028
01:46:58,107 --> 01:47:01,987
Speaker 7: erase the rod, you know. Always trying me best, sometimes

2029
01:47:02,027 --> 01:47:05,947
Speaker 7: trying too hard, but you know, it's it's a great

2030
01:47:05,947 --> 01:47:08,907
Speaker 7: outfield and the nerves can't get to you sometimes. But

2031
01:47:09,107 --> 01:47:11,667
Speaker 7: look we're out there doing our best and it's a

2032
01:47:11,787 --> 01:47:15,027
Speaker 7: very dangerous job. So and we always want to win.

2033
01:47:15,187 --> 01:47:17,147
Speaker 7: You can, you can guarantee that, you know, but you

2034
01:47:17,227 --> 01:47:21,107
Speaker 7: know you have to get some some wrong sometimes, but yeah,

2035
01:47:21,147 --> 01:47:22,267
Speaker 7: you just have to move on from that.

2036
01:47:23,027 --> 01:47:25,227
Speaker 3: When and how did you come to New Zealand.

2037
01:47:26,627 --> 01:47:29,347
Speaker 7: My ex boyfriend he moved over for the rebuilding. I

2038
01:47:29,467 --> 01:47:32,067
Speaker 7: got told to give up hope being a jockie. Like

2039
01:47:32,187 --> 01:47:34,867
Speaker 7: in Ireland, I got twenty four royds over three years.

2040
01:47:35,867 --> 01:47:38,707
Speaker 7: In New Zealand in three years I got over thousand rys.

2041
01:47:38,747 --> 01:47:41,227
Speaker 7: So it was a big different than the opportunity. But yeah,

2042
01:47:41,267 --> 01:47:43,067
Speaker 7: my ex boyfriend he moved over ahead of me and

2043
01:47:43,747 --> 01:47:45,387
Speaker 7: kind of telling me that the girls were getting a

2044
01:47:45,427 --> 01:47:47,227
Speaker 7: good go here to move over and get me the

2045
01:47:47,347 --> 01:47:49,347
Speaker 7: ultimate and to move over. I didn't really want to,

2046
01:47:49,947 --> 01:47:53,427
Speaker 7: but I was doing a good job. But I'm glad

2047
01:47:53,467 --> 01:47:55,147
Speaker 7: I did. And he didn't even have a visa, so

2048
01:47:55,267 --> 01:47:57,307
Speaker 7: he had to move back to Ireland after four weeks

2049
01:47:57,347 --> 01:47:59,027
Speaker 7: and me being here and so that was a bit

2050
01:47:59,587 --> 01:48:02,547
Speaker 7: a hard time, but I was very lucky.

2051
01:48:02,987 --> 01:48:06,067
Speaker 3: So so back in Ireland you were getting very limited

2052
01:48:06,107 --> 01:48:07,707
Speaker 3: of unities as a female jockey.

2053
01:48:08,307 --> 01:48:10,507
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, look a ride every two or three months.

2054
01:48:10,627 --> 01:48:13,707
Speaker 7: Oh wow, Yeah, every time I've brought there, Fellow, it

2055
01:48:13,827 --> 01:48:14,707
Speaker 7: was the fourth time, you know.

2056
01:48:15,867 --> 01:48:18,547
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, well it must be. I can only guess.

2057
01:48:18,587 --> 01:48:19,867
Speaker 3: But the more you do it, I guess the more

2058
01:48:19,947 --> 01:48:22,427
Speaker 3: you are comfortable with it. So is the New Zealand

2059
01:48:22,427 --> 01:48:24,907
Speaker 3: bloodstot Key. We're going to be the biggest race you've raced.

2060
01:48:24,667 --> 01:48:28,067
Speaker 7: In Oh totally. It's me forwards runner in an art

2061
01:48:28,107 --> 01:48:31,347
Speaker 7: Island and it's what you always dream of as a jockey,

2062
01:48:31,387 --> 01:48:33,867
Speaker 7: a strapper. Anyone that in the industry wants to take

2063
01:48:33,907 --> 01:48:36,547
Speaker 7: part in such a team, you know. So I'm delighted

2064
01:48:36,667 --> 01:48:37,827
Speaker 7: that we're getting a trend.

2065
01:48:38,867 --> 01:48:40,667
Speaker 3: Sam. It's just been such a delight chatting to you.

2066
01:48:40,987 --> 01:48:42,867
Speaker 3: We'll be looking out for you next Saturday at Ellieslie.

2067
01:48:42,907 --> 01:48:45,387
Speaker 3: I'll see if I can see any nerves in your

2068
01:48:45,427 --> 01:48:47,427
Speaker 3: eyes on the start line. Not in my eyes. That

2069
01:48:47,627 --> 01:48:49,067
Speaker 3: good to be able to see you. But hey, all

2070
01:48:49,107 --> 01:48:51,187
Speaker 3: the best, thanks for chatting to us and wish you

2071
01:48:51,667 --> 01:48:53,507
Speaker 3: wish you every success and the inn zedb.

2072
01:48:53,427 --> 01:48:55,227
Speaker 7: Key We thank you for your time.

2073
01:48:55,347 --> 01:48:57,427
Speaker 3: All the best now, all the best to you too, Sam.

2074
01:48:57,507 --> 01:49:01,067
Speaker 3: That is a cement that will win delightful a rider

2075
01:49:01,227 --> 01:49:04,227
Speaker 3: and trainer and she'll be a board pivotal ten in

2076
01:49:04,507 --> 01:49:08,267
Speaker 3: the insied b Key wee Lee Racecourse next Saturday. We'll

2077
01:49:08,307 --> 01:49:10,427
Speaker 3: have a lot more in terms of preview for that

2078
01:49:10,587 --> 01:49:13,867
Speaker 3: on the show next weekend. It's twenty five to three.

2079
01:49:14,187 --> 01:49:17,067
Speaker 3: Back to the New Zealand Golf Open shortly but just

2080
01:49:17,147 --> 01:49:21,507
Speaker 3: a quick stop in super Rugby town, which last night

2081
01:49:21,587 --> 01:49:24,907
Speaker 3: was Albany. A narrow escape for the Highlanders after holding

2082
01:49:24,987 --> 01:49:28,667
Speaker 3: off Majana pacifica thirty one twenty nine at Albany. The

2083
01:49:28,707 --> 01:49:32,507
Speaker 3: Southerners were thirty one ten ahead at the break before

2084
01:49:32,587 --> 01:49:35,987
Speaker 3: Mawana pulled off a spirited second half fight back. A

2085
01:49:36,107 --> 01:49:40,067
Speaker 3: wait to the left week corner ha ha many only

2086
01:49:40,347 --> 01:49:41,787
Speaker 3: a billium how many.

2087
01:49:43,187 --> 01:49:46,387
Speaker 12: Gits the three tap and go in the twenty two somebody.

2088
01:49:46,227 --> 01:49:54,147
Speaker 27: Hoddle sit right, put it down some trick playe Marie

2089
01:49:54,267 --> 01:49:56,107
Speaker 27: Subody had dropped it back in the pocket.

2090
01:49:56,547 --> 01:50:00,907
Speaker 3: It's a messid two pool, Hei, Lord, it's over. They

2091
01:50:00,947 --> 01:50:03,427
Speaker 3: couldn't quite get there though. Thirty one twenty nine to

2092
01:50:03,467 --> 01:50:06,907
Speaker 3: the Highlanders, who are two and one now and sitting

2093
01:50:07,547 --> 01:50:09,427
Speaker 3: well up near the top of the table, which for

2094
01:50:09,507 --> 01:50:12,947
Speaker 3: Highlanders fans will be something very pleasing to their eyes.

2095
01:50:12,947 --> 01:50:14,707
Speaker 3: I'm just going to actually check the table before I

2096
01:50:15,187 --> 01:50:17,387
Speaker 3: go too much further. The Chiefs are still top with

2097
01:50:17,467 --> 01:50:20,267
Speaker 3: two wins from two. The Highlanders two wins and a

2098
01:50:20,387 --> 01:50:23,387
Speaker 3: loss are equal on points. Then the Waratas, the Force

2099
01:50:23,467 --> 01:50:24,947
Speaker 3: and the Reds. But still a lot of games to

2100
01:50:24,987 --> 01:50:27,947
Speaker 3: come this weekend, so that table will change. Chiefs Brumby's

2101
01:50:27,987 --> 01:50:31,827
Speaker 3: four thirty five Hurricanes Blues five past seven, Force, Reds

2102
01:50:31,907 --> 01:50:34,107
Speaker 3: nine thirty five tonight. But back to last night's game,

2103
01:50:34,667 --> 01:50:36,427
Speaker 3: what went wrong in the first half for more one

2104
01:50:36,507 --> 01:50:39,507
Speaker 3: pacificated they were thirty one to ten down. Here's coach

2105
01:50:39,587 --> 01:50:40,387
Speaker 3: tana Umaga.

2106
01:50:42,147 --> 01:50:46,187
Speaker 30: It's a good question. Probably probably need a bit more

2107
01:50:46,227 --> 01:50:48,267
Speaker 30: time to have a look at the game. And but

2108
01:50:48,347 --> 01:50:51,147
Speaker 30: it just our eras. We just made a few errors,

2109
01:50:51,427 --> 01:50:55,987
Speaker 30: and you know it's at this level, you know, make

2110
01:50:56,027 --> 01:50:59,747
Speaker 30: those kind of eras with the capabilities of the players

2111
01:50:59,907 --> 01:51:02,627
Speaker 30: that you know, the teams have, they just capitalize on

2112
01:51:03,547 --> 01:51:06,067
Speaker 30: for us. And so it's just something that we need

2113
01:51:06,147 --> 01:51:08,067
Speaker 30: to you know, we've talked about it.

2114
01:51:08,667 --> 01:51:09,227
Speaker 4: It's us.

2115
01:51:09,427 --> 01:51:11,147
Speaker 30: You know, we made a lot of errors in that

2116
01:51:11,307 --> 01:51:15,987
Speaker 30: first twenty minutes that gave them those opportunities to get

2117
01:51:16,067 --> 01:51:18,227
Speaker 30: points up on us. You know, so it's only us

2118
01:51:18,347 --> 01:51:21,347
Speaker 30: that can kure what's happening to us. So you know,

2119
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Speaker 30: I suppose that's a positive for us. You know, we

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Speaker 30: just got to keep looking at ourselves and it's not

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Speaker 30: making it hard for ourselves in these games, you know,

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Speaker 30: and you can't us much more from our captain in

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Speaker 30: terms of the showcasing, the effort that you need to

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Speaker 30: win these games and the and also you know that

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01:51:41,387 --> 01:51:44,947
Speaker 30: the clinical, as Ardie said, you know, being clinical in

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Speaker 30: those moments when we're down there, our forwards are doing

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01:51:47,987 --> 01:51:51,267
Speaker 30: great work. Again, we just got to compliment that, you know,

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Speaker 30: in terms of what we're doing after it.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of Artie Savia is a ton of reference

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Speaker 3: to during that club is captain of mo Wana Pacifica.

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Speaker 3: So how proud was Ardie Savia of the second half

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Speaker 3: fight back by his side?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, other lands, But for me it's you know, like

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Speaker 21: at the end of the day, I'm we got to

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Speaker 21: win games.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 25: As much as you know there were great moments for

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01:52:18,227 --> 01:52:21,867
Speaker 25: our team, you know, we still we still lost. And

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Speaker 25: for this team, you know, we want to win games

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Speaker 25: and we've got to find ways to do that and

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01:52:28,627 --> 01:52:29,787
Speaker 25: we don't have ourselves and.

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Speaker 21: So you know we have to be better.

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Speaker 25: But you know, extremely like there's moments there that you

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Speaker 25: know the boys, you know, fronted up now the next task,

2145
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Speaker 25: grew down twenty one and we got back within the game.

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Speaker 25: You know, those are the those are the moments where

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Speaker 25: the boys showed ticker. It's just we got to stop

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01:52:49,747 --> 01:52:53,867
Speaker 25: putting ourselves in those positions and whether that's the mental game,

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01:52:53,907 --> 01:52:56,587
Speaker 25: whether that's nailing our next moment where that's we switch off.

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01:52:56,667 --> 01:53:00,827
Speaker 25: We've got to financewers quickly and that's that's something that

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01:53:00,907 --> 01:53:01,587
Speaker 25: we need to prove on.

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Speaker 3: There's the voice of Ari Savea, Captain of Molana Pacifica.

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Speaker 3: So you look at this score this season Mowana they

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01:53:07,787 --> 01:53:11,547
Speaker 3: lost forty five forty four to the Force, then fifty

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01:53:11,627 --> 01:53:14,267
Speaker 3: six thirty six to the Reds and then last night

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01:53:14,387 --> 01:53:18,027
Speaker 3: thirty one twenty nine to the Highlanders. So scoring points,

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Speaker 3: as I said before, is not a problem for this team,

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01:53:21,027 --> 01:53:24,187
Speaker 3: one hundred and nine of them across their first three games.

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Speaker 3: It's just the leakage at the other end. So next

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Speaker 3: up for Moana Pacifica they will take on I think

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Speaker 3: they might have to buy. No, they don't know that.

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01:53:32,107 --> 01:53:33,507
Speaker 3: They don't have to buy just yet. They've got the

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01:53:33,587 --> 01:53:38,427
Speaker 3: Hurricanes actually next weekend. The Hurricanes next weekend back at Albany.

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01:53:38,627 --> 01:53:41,547
Speaker 3: So for Adi Savia, that'll be a bit special, won't

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Speaker 3: it coming up against his former side. Don't forget. All

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Speaker 3: games involving New Zealand sides, including Mowana Pacifica in both

2167
01:53:48,147 --> 01:53:51,987
Speaker 3: Super Rugby Pacific and Super Rugby Opakey are broadcast live

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Speaker 3: on Gold Sport and via iHeartRadio twenty to three. It's

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Speaker 3: gonna breakaway when we come back, Richie mccaugh not talking rugby,

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Speaker 3: talking golf, and we're back there as well with Andrew

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Speaker 3: Ortison at the New Zealand Golf Open, the Big.

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Speaker 1: Shoes on and after field call eighty ten eighty weekends

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01:54:11,027 --> 01:54:14,747
Speaker 1: Ford with Jason Pain and GJ. Gunner Homes New Zealand's

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01:54:14,787 --> 01:54:17,507
Speaker 1: first trusted home. Milder News Talks, Abby.

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01:54:17,227 --> 01:54:19,707
Speaker 3: News Talks back to Milbrook for an update on the

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01:54:19,787 --> 01:54:23,347
Speaker 3: leaderboard shortly at seventeen to three. But as I mentioned

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Speaker 3: earlier in the hour, there are a number of New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Golf Open Ambassadors playing in the pro am. We've

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Speaker 3: heard from Ricky Ponting. Let's bring in another one double

2180
01:54:31,867 --> 01:54:34,587
Speaker 3: World Cup winning All Blacks captain Richie McCaw who is

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Speaker 3: a New Zealand Golf Open Ambassador this time around. Good

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01:54:37,827 --> 01:54:40,347
Speaker 3: to jettire Richie. How are you enjoying your time at

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01:54:40,347 --> 01:54:41,227
Speaker 3: the New Zealand Open.

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Speaker 4: I loving being here.

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Speaker 31: My golf is yeah, certainly nothing to write home about,

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01:54:48,427 --> 01:54:51,227
Speaker 31: but yeah it's a pretty pretty cool event and yeah,

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01:54:51,347 --> 01:54:52,987
Speaker 31: very very privileged to be involved.

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01:54:53,387 --> 01:54:55,947
Speaker 3: Is golf something that you have played a lot of, Richie?

2189
01:54:55,987 --> 01:54:58,667
Speaker 3: Did you play much golf during your your rugby playing days.

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01:54:59,427 --> 01:55:00,467
Speaker 4: I did a little bit early on.

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Speaker 31: I read a crew and the Crusaders used to get

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Speaker 31: out on the occasion, but I was never very good,

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01:55:06,387 --> 01:55:08,787
Speaker 31: didn't really get enthusiastic.

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Speaker 4: But a bunch of mates these days, the absolutely love

2195
01:55:13,587 --> 01:55:13,907
Speaker 4: the golf.

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01:55:13,987 --> 01:55:15,987
Speaker 31: Every week in Away once a year I've turned up

2197
01:55:16,027 --> 01:55:17,467
Speaker 31: been some of the worst golfer, so I've tried to

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01:55:17,467 --> 01:55:20,027
Speaker 31: get a little bit better, get a couple of lessons,

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Speaker 31: those sort of things. But yeah, it's very hit and mess.

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01:55:23,227 --> 01:55:25,347
Speaker 31: So I can can be on fire for a couple

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Speaker 31: of holes and then yeah, you get a bits pretty quickly.

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Speaker 31: So but yeah, I do enjoy it. And it's one

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01:55:31,787 --> 01:55:33,187
Speaker 31: of those things that you know you're gonna put a

2204
01:55:33,227 --> 01:55:34,267
Speaker 31: bit of time and any better.

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Speaker 3: You've just described every single goal for listening to the

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01:55:37,067 --> 01:55:39,347
Speaker 3: show Richie, you know, on fire for a couple of

2207
01:55:39,387 --> 01:55:41,507
Speaker 3: holes and then it all turns to casting. You must, though,

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01:55:42,267 --> 01:55:45,307
Speaker 3: enjoy being in one of the most beautiful parts of

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. How is it just sort of walking around

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01:55:47,707 --> 01:55:49,947
Speaker 3: the course there down at Millbrook, I.

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Speaker 31: Was playing with the guys, just playing with see him,

2212
01:55:54,947 --> 01:55:56,747
Speaker 31: I forgot his last name, but the pro from Aussie.

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01:55:56,787 --> 01:55:58,707
Speaker 31: He's just something mate every time a company. I just

2214
01:55:58,787 --> 01:56:02,547
Speaker 31: can't believe this spectacular setting in view the play golf

2215
01:56:02,627 --> 01:56:04,747
Speaker 31: and and yeah I think it's key with the preps

2216
01:56:04,747 --> 01:56:08,187
Speaker 31: take for granted, but it's an amazing scene and immaculate

2217
01:56:08,307 --> 01:56:13,387
Speaker 31: course and you know you know, having standing beside these

2218
01:56:13,467 --> 01:56:17,147
Speaker 31: pros haven't hit your ball, it feels it's very cool.

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01:56:17,307 --> 01:56:20,147
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I spoke to Ricky Ponting earlier and asked

2220
01:56:20,227 --> 01:56:24,627
Speaker 3: him this question. He's been involved, obviously in massive cricket matches.

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01:56:24,667 --> 01:56:28,667
Speaker 3: You've been involved in the biggest rugby matches New Zealand's

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01:56:28,667 --> 01:56:30,907
Speaker 3: ever played, World Cup finals and such like. I'm not

2223
01:56:30,947 --> 01:56:33,347
Speaker 3: sure if you got nervous or not before those, but

2224
01:56:33,947 --> 01:56:36,667
Speaker 3: do you get nervous on the first tea at events

2225
01:56:36,787 --> 01:56:36,947
Speaker 3: like this?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 31: Like people asked me that, and yeah, I get nervous.

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01:56:40,707 --> 01:56:42,547
Speaker 31: I got nervous for four games of rugby. But you

2229
01:56:42,747 --> 01:56:45,747
Speaker 31: kind of bet yourself you had some knowledge and some

2230
01:56:45,987 --> 01:56:48,187
Speaker 31: skill to be able to handle it. When you when

2231
01:56:48,187 --> 01:56:49,907
Speaker 31: you get those sort of feelings and you're actually not

2232
01:56:50,027 --> 01:56:54,267
Speaker 31: sure what to do with a golf stick, they would

2233
01:56:54,267 --> 01:56:56,707
Speaker 31: every thing goes tense. And today I'm the first tea.

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01:56:57,587 --> 01:56:59,747
Speaker 31: At least I made contact. But it wasn't It wasn't

2235
01:56:59,747 --> 01:57:02,027
Speaker 31: the best shot. But Jesus, when you ever goes quiet

2236
01:57:02,067 --> 01:57:04,867
Speaker 31: and standing over it, some funny thoughts go through you.

2237
01:57:04,867 --> 01:57:06,547
Speaker 3: Here to tell you, I bet and you're one of

2238
01:57:06,547 --> 01:57:09,307
Speaker 3: a number of New Zealand Golf Open ambassadors down there.

2239
01:57:09,387 --> 01:57:12,107
Speaker 3: I mentioned Ricky Ponting, Tom Eber, Crombie, Hayden padd and

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Speaker 3: Grant Elliott, Jeff Wilson. Is he dad, who no doubt

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01:57:15,707 --> 01:57:18,027
Speaker 3: has a bit to say one of your former teammates.

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01:57:18,227 --> 01:57:22,107
Speaker 3: Are you enjoying the friendly competition among the other ambassadors.

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01:57:22,107 --> 01:57:23,987
Speaker 4: Yeah, a great fun.

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Speaker 31: And I got to play with Ricky Ponting yesterday, who's

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01:57:27,707 --> 01:57:30,587
Speaker 31: you know, obviously a classic cricket, but the classic golfer

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01:57:30,627 --> 01:57:32,947
Speaker 31: as well, like he's on a scratch handicap pretty much.

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01:57:33,027 --> 01:57:36,347
Speaker 31: And yeah, that was that was very cool. And I

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01:57:36,507 --> 01:57:41,827
Speaker 31: give is he dead Clinia stick? He likes to back himself,

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01:57:41,907 --> 01:57:44,867
Speaker 31: but he still He's told me the day I beat

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Speaker 31: him playing golf today he gives up.

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Speaker 4: So that's all we challenge for me to keep working out.

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01:57:49,587 --> 01:57:52,507
Speaker 3: That's great motivation to make his role dad give up

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01:57:52,547 --> 01:57:57,347
Speaker 3: golf on the on the course. In terms of the professionals, Richie,

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01:57:57,347 --> 01:58:00,027
Speaker 3: obviously we've we've waited a while for a New Zealand winner,

2255
01:58:00,067 --> 01:58:02,347
Speaker 3: the last one back in twenty seventeen. How good would

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01:58:02,347 --> 01:58:04,947
Speaker 3: it be to see a New Zealand winner win the

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01:58:05,027 --> 01:58:06,707
Speaker 3: New Zealand Open sometimes tomorrow?

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01:58:07,187 --> 01:58:08,827
Speaker 4: Oh, it would be awesome it would be awesome.

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01:58:08,907 --> 01:58:11,987
Speaker 31: And you know, I don't follow golf enough to know

2260
01:58:12,107 --> 01:58:13,827
Speaker 31: all the pedigree of all the guys, but if everyone

2261
01:58:13,867 --> 01:58:16,867
Speaker 31: say is a pretty strong field, and you know, I

2262
01:58:16,987 --> 01:58:21,547
Speaker 31: know John Hatton the organizers making sure they make it

2263
01:58:21,627 --> 01:58:23,027
Speaker 31: now and they love to see a keep we winning

2264
01:58:23,027 --> 01:58:26,667
Speaker 31: it again. So yeah, it's I guess we'll wait and see,

2265
01:58:26,747 --> 01:58:29,427
Speaker 31: but yeah, it's I'm not going to be able to

2266
01:58:29,507 --> 01:58:33,307
Speaker 31: blame the course or the backet because it's absolutely perfect.

2267
01:58:33,507 --> 01:58:36,587
Speaker 3: And this must be wandering around a course like like

2268
01:58:36,987 --> 01:58:40,347
Speaker 3: you are down at Millbrook. It must be slightly more

2269
01:58:40,387 --> 01:58:42,667
Speaker 3: relaxing than than doing the coast to coast as you

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01:58:42,707 --> 01:58:43,667
Speaker 3: did in a couple of weeks ago.

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01:58:44,067 --> 01:58:47,707
Speaker 4: Well, in a way, I kind of, as I say,

2272
01:58:48,867 --> 01:58:50,507
Speaker 4: when you know what you're doing, you sort of relax

2273
01:58:50,587 --> 01:58:50,747
Speaker 4: a bit.

2274
01:58:50,827 --> 01:58:52,627
Speaker 31: So we're I'm on the bike. I sort of don't mind.

2275
01:58:52,707 --> 01:58:55,867
Speaker 31: But this is quite stressful really when you walk up.

2276
01:58:55,947 --> 01:58:58,107
Speaker 31: But yeah, a different sort of stress, but it is.

2277
01:58:59,067 --> 01:58:59,307
Speaker 4: It is.

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01:59:00,907 --> 01:59:02,867
Speaker 31: Yeah, now, I've really really enjoyed it so far, and

2279
01:59:03,187 --> 01:59:04,667
Speaker 31: you'll just board the next couple of days.

2280
01:59:04,747 --> 01:59:06,347
Speaker 3: Good on your Richie. Hey, well thanks for joining us.

2281
01:59:06,347 --> 01:59:08,387
Speaker 3: It's great that you're having a good time down there

2282
01:59:08,387 --> 01:59:10,267
Speaker 3: as one of the New Zealand Golf Open Ambassadors. I

2283
01:59:10,267 --> 01:59:12,187
Speaker 3: appreciate you taking the time for a quick chat to

2284
01:59:12,307 --> 01:59:15,027
Speaker 3: us this afternoon. Appreciation, No problem, thanks mate. That's Richie

2285
01:59:15,147 --> 01:59:18,747
Speaker 3: mccaugh of course, and it's a golfer our greatest all

2286
01:59:18,787 --> 01:59:21,947
Speaker 3: black and enjoying himself as a New Zealand Golf Open Ambassador.

2287
01:59:22,027 --> 01:59:24,587
Speaker 3: By the sounds of things, it's coming up eleven to three.

2288
01:59:24,667 --> 01:59:26,467
Speaker 3: Let's get you back to the course and to the

2289
01:59:26,547 --> 01:59:29,267
Speaker 3: top of the leaderboard. Andrew Ordison is our man at Millbrook,

2290
01:59:29,307 --> 01:59:31,747
Speaker 3: following along. Great to hear chat to Sam Jones a

2291
01:59:31,787 --> 01:59:34,627
Speaker 3: short time ago, orders how far back is he from

2292
01:59:34,667 --> 01:59:36,747
Speaker 3: the runaway leader, Good Tacco of Korea.

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01:59:37,907 --> 01:59:40,507
Speaker 17: Well it's currently five back at the moment point, so

2294
01:59:40,667 --> 01:59:43,307
Speaker 17: Jones on fifteen under the card. He's finished with after

2295
01:59:43,387 --> 01:59:46,227
Speaker 17: that ten under round on this copposite course, so getting

2296
01:59:46,267 --> 01:59:49,307
Speaker 17: through in sixty one. But there's going to be some

2297
01:59:49,427 --> 01:59:51,387
Speaker 17: serious competition at the front there with good tac Co.

2298
01:59:52,027 --> 01:59:55,627
Speaker 17: He is on his own, pretty much allergic to pars.

2299
01:59:55,827 --> 01:59:58,907
Speaker 17: So far in this round he's had four birdies and

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01:59:59,107 --> 02:00:03,027
Speaker 17: a bogie and continues to advance his course, so he's

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02:00:03,027 --> 02:00:06,107
Speaker 17: at twenty under the card across the tournament. Remember the

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02:00:06,107 --> 02:00:08,427
Speaker 17: rec called for the tournament is twenty seven under from

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02:00:08,467 --> 02:00:12,467
Speaker 17: Daniel Lisbet which was seventy years ago at Millbrook Resort

2304
02:00:13,147 --> 02:00:15,907
Speaker 17: and co doing his utmost to stay out in front there.

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02:00:16,227 --> 02:00:19,587
Speaker 17: James Mkassoni Maksani is in the fifteen under as well

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Speaker 17: at this particular juncture, and well other New Zealander's moving

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02:00:24,067 --> 02:00:27,307
Speaker 17: their way up through the ranks. Michael Henry thirteen under

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02:00:27,347 --> 02:00:29,707
Speaker 17: his two out of the day through seven so far,

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Speaker 17: Mark Brown has moved to twelve under, He's six under

2310
02:00:33,387 --> 02:00:37,427
Speaker 17: the day through sixteen, and Josh Gary back in eleven

2311
02:00:37,507 --> 02:00:40,267
Speaker 17: under overall, So there or thereabouts. But as you were

2312
02:00:40,267 --> 02:00:42,547
Speaker 17: saying earlier on you want to be I'm guessing within

2313
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Speaker 17: three or four I've gottac code to have any chance

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Speaker 17: hitting is that final round?

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Speaker 3: Well E might make that impossible if he keeps shooting

2316
02:00:49,747 --> 02:00:51,347
Speaker 3: the lights out like he is. What are the galleries

2317
02:00:51,427 --> 02:00:53,107
Speaker 3: like today around around the course?

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Speaker 14: Orders, yesh, I've got a.

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02:00:54,827 --> 02:00:56,907
Speaker 17: Good sight for it right at the moment, just looking

2320
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Speaker 17: back through the course and just hundreds of people in here, Pinty,

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Speaker 17: this people and it was right from the wed go

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Speaker 17: since we came down to Spoil was here relatively early

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02:01:05,587 --> 02:01:08,067
Speaker 17: and people's three through the gates, and they had other

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02:01:08,947 --> 02:01:11,027
Speaker 17: aspects of the game involved. It was a she Loves

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Speaker 17: Golf exhibition as you came on, and there was a

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Speaker 17: pitch and put competition, et cetera. Just involving people in

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Speaker 17: so many ways, children, cia and adults and people just

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Speaker 17: embracing it. So following it round. Just plenty of people

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Speaker 17: behind the ropes just watching this and especially I'm just

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Speaker 17: looking out over the eighteenth at the moment with the

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Speaker 17: gallery around it. That's going to be quite the scene

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Speaker 17: come well this time Sunday, but another couple of hours,

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Speaker 17: et cetera. So it's creating quite the atmosphere.

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Speaker 3: Good Man, Orders, thanks so much for your reports this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: You can continue to Andrews' reports courtesy of News Talks

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Speaker 3: thereby top of every hour in our Sports News. But

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Speaker 3: guntac Co, as you heard from, Orders, there with a

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Speaker 3: five shot lead at the moment, three under through five

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Speaker 3: holes in his third round. He's ahead of a group

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Speaker 3: of three players, one of who is the key we

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Speaker 3: the leading key we Sam Jones, who has carted at

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Speaker 3: ten under sixty one today and is in the clubhouse

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Speaker 3: at fifteen under. Nine to three on News Talks EDB

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Speaker 3: and Weekend Sport.

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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world.

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pie they call eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: EDB coming up five and a half away from three.

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Speaker 3: That is us on Weekend Sport for today, just a

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Speaker 3: quick look ahead to tomorrow. Between twelve and one tomorrow

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Speaker 3: on Weekend Sport, we have a comprehensive build up for

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Speaker 3: you to the first Warriors game of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: They're in Las Vegas to take on the Raiders one

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Speaker 3: o'clock New Zealand time kickoff tomorrow, So between twelve and

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Speaker 3: one we will build towards that will also look at

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Speaker 3: the big Super Rugby stories that happen tonight yet to

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Speaker 3: be written. We'll talk some cricket as well, and even

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Speaker 3: some Golden shears that will feature on the show tomorrow

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Speaker 3: as well. Francisca Rudkin has the Saturday edition of the

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Speaker 3: Weekend Collective for you after three o'clock. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: listening in this afternoon. Thanks to Andy McDonnell for producing

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Speaker 3: with such skill and exquisite timing. As per usual, those

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Speaker 3: compliments going finey I like it, Well, I'd rather you

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Speaker 3: went out with a side. What have you got, Well,

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Speaker 3: I've got It's actually my partner's birthday today, so she's

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Speaker 3: a huge Bob Sega fan, so we've got night Moves

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Speaker 3: to finish up the show today. Very happy birthday to

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Speaker 3: your row. Great song choice too. We will see you

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Speaker 3: tomorrow on Weekend Sport, Working and practice.

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