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Speaker 1: Almost half of early childhood centers arned up to scratch.

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Speaker 1: This is according to a new review from ERO. Forty

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Speaker 1: seven percent of standalone services were below the quality threshold

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Speaker 1: for twenty four to twenty five. But that's actually an

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Speaker 1: improvement from sixty four percent weren't upscratched last time? Obviously

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Speaker 1: still not great. Simon Loeber is with US CEO of

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Speaker 1: Early Childhood Counsel Simon, good.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Good morning, Ryan, Good to have you on the program.

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Speaker 1: So is this something we should be really concerned about,

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Speaker 1: like what types of standards are they not meeting?

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Speaker 2: Not really, No, I wouldn't be concerned about this. It

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Speaker 2: is the Education Review Office doing their job and what

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Speaker 2: we're seeing is a significant improvement from just one year.

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Speaker 2: And whilst I know it does sound like a low percentage,

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Speaker 2: it shows the sensitivity of the reviews that they're doing.

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Speaker 2: That they do. They do try and look at a

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Speaker 2: lot of things, and if they see something slightly out

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Speaker 2: of place, it's going to be appearing on your review

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Speaker 2: and so you will end up with pretty much everyone

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Speaker 2: getting found with something somewhere that's not quite right. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it is concerning, but it is why you have

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Speaker 2: the review so that you have the early chartered services

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Speaker 2: focused on improvement. And if we look at those areas

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Speaker 2: that made up that fifty three percent, the best performing

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Speaker 2: area was around learners and their learning, which was sixty

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Speaker 2: five percent, so that were above so that was really good.

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Speaker 2: The weakest area was actually in professional learning and development,

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Speaker 2: which tallies with what we're hearing of a workforce is

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Speaker 2: under massive pressure with not a lot of help.

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Speaker 1: But that still leaves an on the learning thirty five

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Speaker 1: percent that are below the standard. Presumably, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: not great.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's it is what it is, ryan that is

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Speaker 2: and it's an improvement on the year before. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: people who don't like to see it, but that is

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Speaker 2: the state of our early childhood provision and that's this

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Speaker 2: independent evaluation team that showed us every year and it's

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Speaker 2: actually a massive improvement. There was seventeen percent lower the

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Speaker 2: previous year.

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Speaker 1: How do you get if you're a parent, how do

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Speaker 1: you get a good one?

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 1: You know, how do you know who's good?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's a different question altogether, isn't it. It's

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Speaker 2: a bit like is that cake done? Like, personally, you

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Speaker 2: know you've got to you've got to find the right

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Speaker 2: service for your child, and every child is different and

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Speaker 2: there are quite a lot of different options out there.

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Speaker 2: So if you're going into centers and you need long

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Speaker 2: hours of care for a day, then you definitely need

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Speaker 2: to go and visit a few different centers. And it's

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Speaker 2: a bit like looking at properties you've it's only by

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Speaker 2: looking at a few that you start to build up

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Speaker 2: a sense about you know, what is it we are

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Speaker 2: looking for for our child and you might get it

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Speaker 2: wrong as well. You could find one that you think

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Speaker 2: looks really good, but actually your child doesn't settle comfortably

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Speaker 2: and that's important too.

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Speaker 1: Simon, good to have you on the program. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Simon Larba's CEO of Early Childhood Counselors. For more from

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