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Speaker 1: Treaty Principles bill that gets debated today, then if it

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Speaker 1: goes to the committee, that will hear a lot of

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Speaker 1: fearmongering and winging about how it's the end of the world.

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Speaker 1: And after that it will come back to Parliament, a

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Speaker 1: vote will be had, it won't get the numbers, it'll

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Speaker 1: be dead. This is unusual. Governments normally put bills in

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Speaker 1: they know are going to pass. And so here is

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Speaker 1: why it ties into Trump's victory last week. Trump won

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Speaker 1: because he is the repository for grievance. If you don't

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Speaker 1: like the left, you vote for what's not the left,

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Speaker 1: because you've only got a choice of two. Under MMP,

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Speaker 1: you got more choices. We've taken a lot of time

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Speaker 1: to work that out, but as MMP matures, we are

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Speaker 1: reaching a place where more parties will establish themselves as

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Speaker 1: ongoing contributors to the system, as opposed to being seen

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Speaker 1: as fringe and on the verge of survival. Especially helpful

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Speaker 1: will be this government if it performs well as a group,

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Speaker 1: gets re elected and possibly goes for a third term,

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Speaker 1: it will show three parties can coalesce agree to disagree

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Speaker 1: while remaining separate and independent. The Greens have already arrived

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Speaker 1: at this place. Of course, they are a permanent, fixed

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Speaker 1: your on the landscape. They don't dabble with the five

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Speaker 1: percent margins anymore. The point here is, as a result,

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Speaker 1: the big parties will shed support. The days of national

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Speaker 1: being forty five ish percent that gone because parties like

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Speaker 1: ACT in New Zealand first look to head towards ten

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Speaker 1: percent of not more. The Treaty Bill might well be

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Speaker 1: act's ride to permanence, the same way that Trump hoovered

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Speaker 1: up Blacks and Hispanics who are sick of being treated

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Speaker 1: like a block and not individuals. ACT could hoover up

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Speaker 1: New Zealanders sick of raced based policy if NATS the

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Speaker 1: NATS don't or won't deal with it, ACT can In

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Speaker 1: an MMP environment, Trump would not have stood a chance,

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Speaker 1: of course, but their system is less sophisticated than ours.

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Speaker 1: Choice is good. It gets over represented though in jurisdictions

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Speaker 1: where the threshold is too low because you end up

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Speaker 1: with single issue nutters. But at about five percent it

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Speaker 1: looks like we've picked it right. You can be small

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Speaker 1: without being too fringe. Hopefully, ACT in New Zealand first

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Speaker 1: break the MMP who do where small parties vanish in

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Speaker 1: government because there are enough specific issues and enough electoral

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Speaker 1: confidence four parties to state claims and bills support. Big

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Speaker 1: parties no longer have to be everything to everyone. If

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Speaker 1: this is an emerging trend, MMP proper will have arrived

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Speaker 1: and we will be all the better for it. For

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