1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. 3 00:00:13,413 --> 00:00:17,693 Speaker 2: I might have been for again beat you feel like 4 00:00:18,053 --> 00:00:19,733 Speaker 2: I don't have the answers. 5 00:00:19,853 --> 00:00:43,693 Speaker 3: This piece of madness over aheads lady carry me. It 6 00:00:43,773 --> 00:00:47,693 Speaker 3: is the first track on her brand new album, dropped yesterday. 7 00:00:47,813 --> 00:00:50,333 Speaker 3: Virgin is the name of the album of Stelle Clifford, 8 00:00:50,733 --> 00:00:54,653 Speaker 3: our music reviewer, has been keenly anticipating the release and 9 00:00:54,733 --> 00:00:56,933 Speaker 3: has shut herself away from the world, I hope so 10 00:00:56,973 --> 00:00:58,773 Speaker 3: that you can listen to it. And she's with this 11 00:00:58,813 --> 00:00:59,253 Speaker 3: this morning. 12 00:00:59,293 --> 00:01:02,333 Speaker 2: Hey oho, and that's kind of one of those albums 13 00:01:02,373 --> 00:01:05,773 Speaker 2: you need to take a beat. Just yeah, everything that 14 00:01:05,893 --> 00:01:08,053 Speaker 2: is going on in Virgin. I don't know if you 15 00:01:08,093 --> 00:01:11,453 Speaker 2: remember when she released Mellow Drama. The way she released 16 00:01:11,493 --> 00:01:13,573 Speaker 2: it was suddenly I remember late one night, I was 17 00:01:13,613 --> 00:01:16,973 Speaker 2: out searching for the green lights around Auckland City that 18 00:01:17,213 --> 00:01:20,013 Speaker 2: apparently pops up and once you've found them, you'd get 19 00:01:20,053 --> 00:01:22,653 Speaker 2: to hear like the full first track from that album, 20 00:01:22,733 --> 00:01:25,413 Speaker 2: and you're like, she just she kind of caused a frenzy, 21 00:01:25,453 --> 00:01:27,413 Speaker 2: which is exactly what she's managed to do with that 22 00:01:27,533 --> 00:01:31,493 Speaker 2: album as well. So she kind of suddenly out of nowhere, 23 00:01:31,693 --> 00:01:33,933 Speaker 2: like we haven't. She's been keeping pretty low key for 24 00:01:33,933 --> 00:01:38,133 Speaker 2: four years, and suddenly there's this new song and she's like, hey, everyone, 25 00:01:38,253 --> 00:01:40,613 Speaker 2: meet me at this park in New York, and so 26 00:01:40,733 --> 00:01:44,093 Speaker 2: of course everybody goes to the point where police end 27 00:01:44,213 --> 00:01:46,893 Speaker 2: up sending people home, and then she just does that 28 00:01:47,013 --> 00:01:49,973 Speaker 2: kind of random lawd dancing while performing to her new 29 00:01:50,013 --> 00:01:53,613 Speaker 2: big single, and it's everywhere over social media. So suddenly 30 00:01:54,573 --> 00:01:57,213 Speaker 2: it seems quite easy in such a catchy way to 31 00:01:57,253 --> 00:01:59,533 Speaker 2: go hello, there's some new music coming from the wood 32 00:01:59,573 --> 00:02:02,413 Speaker 2: and really create that hype around it, exactly like green Light, 33 00:02:02,493 --> 00:02:05,413 Speaker 2: and I think it sort of says a lot for 34 00:02:05,453 --> 00:02:09,613 Speaker 2: how Virgin does have similarities to her melodrama album in 35 00:02:09,773 --> 00:02:13,653 Speaker 2: its musicality and context, so Solar Power that came out 36 00:02:14,053 --> 00:02:17,413 Speaker 2: in twenty one, very She'll leave Me Alone, I'm at 37 00:02:17,453 --> 00:02:20,813 Speaker 2: the beach vibes that would have been in the public 38 00:02:20,813 --> 00:02:23,893 Speaker 2: eye too much that has gone part that we're not 39 00:02:23,973 --> 00:02:27,013 Speaker 2: there anymore. We are back either on the dance floor 40 00:02:27,053 --> 00:02:30,613 Speaker 2: just letting go and releasing our feelings because it is 41 00:02:30,933 --> 00:02:34,293 Speaker 2: all in this album and something I've really enjoyed with 42 00:02:34,413 --> 00:02:38,333 Speaker 2: her growing storytelling and writing. This one is very personal. 43 00:02:39,493 --> 00:02:42,253 Speaker 2: So all the stories and all the connection to the 44 00:02:42,333 --> 00:02:46,213 Speaker 2: music are from her own personal experience and what she's 45 00:02:46,253 --> 00:02:48,093 Speaker 2: been going through. As you do when you sort of 46 00:02:48,133 --> 00:02:51,693 Speaker 2: hit that mid twenties into your late twenties, that happens. 47 00:02:51,733 --> 00:02:55,613 Speaker 2: Relationships change, you try new things, you go different places, 48 00:02:55,733 --> 00:02:57,453 Speaker 2: and they all have an effect on who you are 49 00:02:57,453 --> 00:03:00,173 Speaker 2: as a person. So she's used that, you know, this 50 00:03:00,333 --> 00:03:03,493 Speaker 2: is I think sometimes she's written music from a perspective 51 00:03:03,733 --> 00:03:07,693 Speaker 2: or like a dream kind of sequence of what might happen, 52 00:03:07,813 --> 00:03:12,813 Speaker 2: or you know, like yeah, observation that sort of from 53 00:03:12,853 --> 00:03:16,293 Speaker 2: the sideline, as opposed to we're well and truly in 54 00:03:16,693 --> 00:03:19,493 Speaker 2: where she's at. There's been obviously she's had a lot 55 00:03:19,493 --> 00:03:22,013 Speaker 2: of chats around how she's had some real issues with 56 00:03:22,093 --> 00:03:27,613 Speaker 2: her own body image, having issues, eating disorder, stuff that 57 00:03:27,653 --> 00:03:31,013 Speaker 2: she's gone through, and so writing all that kind of 58 00:03:31,093 --> 00:03:35,773 Speaker 2: angsty stuff that she's working through and releasing ours in 59 00:03:35,813 --> 00:03:38,613 Speaker 2: this thrial cathartic way, and her music is just exciting 60 00:03:38,653 --> 00:03:42,813 Speaker 2: to hear. It's raw and it's angsty, it's still got 61 00:03:42,813 --> 00:03:44,733 Speaker 2: that real quirky you know how, like you think you 62 00:03:44,733 --> 00:03:47,533 Speaker 2: know where a song is going, and then Lord always 63 00:03:47,533 --> 00:03:49,813 Speaker 2: manages to do kind of like this left turn on something, 64 00:03:50,293 --> 00:03:53,133 Speaker 2: whether it's the malady or the way that the percussion 65 00:03:53,213 --> 00:03:57,653 Speaker 2: comes in quite heavy drums percussion. Throughout this album you 66 00:03:57,693 --> 00:03:59,653 Speaker 2: do get some soft stuffle with but there's a couple 67 00:03:59,693 --> 00:04:02,413 Speaker 2: of ballads in here, but they still have that build 68 00:04:02,493 --> 00:04:06,773 Speaker 2: that she does with the crescendo, and I like in 69 00:04:06,773 --> 00:04:10,253 Speaker 2: an interview she called it her Bravardo trying out a 70 00:04:10,253 --> 00:04:13,333 Speaker 2: bit of her masculine size, Like what is it to 71 00:04:13,373 --> 00:04:17,253 Speaker 2: just be like it doesn't matter. I'm not buying into this. 72 00:04:17,613 --> 00:04:19,213 Speaker 2: Women have to be in a box of what their 73 00:04:19,253 --> 00:04:21,893 Speaker 2: size is or how they judge themselves. Like what if 74 00:04:22,573 --> 00:04:24,853 Speaker 2: I did feel manly for a change, I wanted to 75 00:04:24,893 --> 00:04:29,253 Speaker 2: have that confidence, I suppose. Yeah, nothing understated in this album. 76 00:04:30,133 --> 00:04:32,013 Speaker 3: No, it's good. I love that she just goes in 77 00:04:32,053 --> 00:04:34,133 Speaker 3: a different direction because she kind of did that like 78 00:04:34,213 --> 00:04:36,253 Speaker 3: with the last one with Melodrama after Pure Hero and 79 00:04:36,333 --> 00:04:38,893 Speaker 3: she kind of, you know, went on another complete di 80 00:04:39,653 --> 00:04:41,533 Speaker 3: I think good on her, like she should. 81 00:04:41,533 --> 00:04:45,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, growing, and I think her fans grow with her 82 00:04:45,253 --> 00:04:47,493 Speaker 2: as opposed to go and all want the same thing 83 00:04:47,533 --> 00:04:50,493 Speaker 2: you did when you were sixteen exactly, We're okay, Like 84 00:04:50,533 --> 00:04:53,293 Speaker 2: she's done that really well, Like it's okay to evolve 85 00:04:53,333 --> 00:04:55,213 Speaker 2: and grow as a person. So she takes her fans 86 00:04:55,253 --> 00:04:59,053 Speaker 2: with her as opposed to everyone craving for this other 87 00:04:59,093 --> 00:05:02,253 Speaker 2: thing she does. She worked with a different producer, Jimmy Stack, 88 00:05:02,373 --> 00:05:04,333 Speaker 2: and I think that's been a good challenge for her. 89 00:05:04,453 --> 00:05:08,213 Speaker 2: He questioned her and he things around and and she 90 00:05:08,333 --> 00:05:11,133 Speaker 2: went with it and worked with that. I think she's 91 00:05:11,173 --> 00:05:17,813 Speaker 2: worked with Joel for Jack and anton Off for quite 92 00:05:17,813 --> 00:05:20,373 Speaker 2: a few albums. And I think just having that refresh 93 00:05:20,373 --> 00:05:22,733 Speaker 2: of someone else looking at your music, she's like, I've 94 00:05:22,733 --> 00:05:24,653 Speaker 2: got to follow my instincts here and just have a 95 00:05:24,653 --> 00:05:26,693 Speaker 2: little go at something else. And I think that challenge 96 00:05:26,733 --> 00:05:30,333 Speaker 2: means she's pushed herself in wanting to tell these stories 97 00:05:31,333 --> 00:05:34,653 Speaker 2: really great phrasing her lyrics like the one in Hammer, 98 00:05:34,773 --> 00:05:36,773 Speaker 2: I'm ready to feel like I don't have the answers. 99 00:05:36,813 --> 00:05:39,173 Speaker 2: There's piece of the madness over our heads that is 100 00:05:39,173 --> 00:05:42,773 Speaker 2: becoming an adult okay, Like do we all go when 101 00:05:42,893 --> 00:05:43,213 Speaker 2: we go? 102 00:05:43,293 --> 00:05:43,413 Speaker 1: Oh? 103 00:05:43,493 --> 00:05:45,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I'm an adult now, Like we're all 104 00:05:45,133 --> 00:05:46,773 Speaker 2: just faking it, aren't we? 105 00:05:46,893 --> 00:05:48,933 Speaker 3: Like, I mean she's always been a poet, like her 106 00:05:49,013 --> 00:05:53,053 Speaker 3: lyrics are amazing. Yeah, yeah, I think I think she's incredible. Yeah, great, 107 00:05:53,173 --> 00:05:55,453 Speaker 3: sounds really interesting. But I think I'm gonna have to 108 00:05:55,453 --> 00:05:57,733 Speaker 3: find a moment and really like lock myself off so 109 00:05:57,773 --> 00:05:59,213 Speaker 3: I can have a good listen. So what did you 110 00:05:59,213 --> 00:05:59,813 Speaker 3: give Virgil? 111 00:06:00,853 --> 00:06:03,293 Speaker 2: This is a ten out of ten for me. I 112 00:06:03,333 --> 00:06:05,973 Speaker 2: think she's really done a great job. It's a great 113 00:06:05,973 --> 00:06:08,853 Speaker 2: A shape shifter is going to take you out. You'll 114 00:06:08,893 --> 00:06:12,573 Speaker 2: love the catchy. There's a percussion rep and it's dominated 115 00:06:12,573 --> 00:06:17,653 Speaker 2: by drums and really about transforming and growing and evolving. 116 00:06:17,733 --> 00:06:18,133 Speaker 2: It's good. 117 00:06:18,453 --> 00:06:21,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh so good. All right, really looking forward to this. 118 00:06:21,333 --> 00:06:24,013 Speaker 3: Thanks so much to Stelle. We really appreciate it, Stale Clifford. 119 00:06:24,613 --> 00:06:28,053 Speaker 3: She had been, of course desperately anticipating this album, but 120 00:06:28,093 --> 00:06:29,773 Speaker 3: still she's only had twenty four hours to give it 121 00:06:29,773 --> 00:06:32,693 Speaker 3: a good listen. Ten out of ten for Lord's Virgin 122 00:06:32,733 --> 00:06:34,613 Speaker 3: sounds like it was well worth a listen, So we 123 00:06:34,653 --> 00:06:36,333 Speaker 3: will have a listen to one of those tracks in 124 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:37,053 Speaker 3: a couple of minutes. 125 00:06:37,653 --> 00:06:40,733 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 126 00:06:40,853 --> 00:06:43,653 Speaker 1: to News Talks d B from nine am Saturday, or 127 00:06:43,733 --> 00:06:45,573 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.