1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: When the old trev counterbeaate is raging this week at 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: the Red Meat Sector conference. They've made an extra one 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: point two billion this year. Red meats so hot right now, 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: but stock levels are a problem. We are, as they say, 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: leaving money on the table. So what to do? Nathan, 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Guys the Meat Industry Association Independent chairing is with us. Nathan, 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: morning to you, morning Mite. It is gutting, I suppose, 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: isn't it to know that we could have made even 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: more money if we wanted to. 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. We're in really good shape. Return to 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: a fantastic for our farmers. They've had a real problematic 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: couple of years and they've got to spring in their step. 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: Our processes are doing pretty well buy and large. There's 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: obviously geopolitical issues and a few headwinds that play with 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: tariff and a few other things. But if we did 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: add more volume, we would return more money through to 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: processes and farmers. Unfortunately, trees have had a bit of 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: an impact and that's just the reality of I guess 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 2: dealing with the numbers that we have to deal with. 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Has anyone managed to square the circle? Because if I'm 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: a farmer and somebody offers me more only for my 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: farm to plant some trees than they are to sell 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: to the family wants to run the cows and the sheep. 24 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do. 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: Well? That is an issue. I guess you sell to 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: who you want to. Some farmers have said they didn't 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: want to sell the trees. They've wanted to sell to 28 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: their neighbor. Others have sold to the trees. The government 29 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: have got this bill working its way through the Parliament 30 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: at the moment that's going to stop and restrict blanket 31 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: planting of trees on classes one to six. We support 32 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: that bill. The reality is though there's still opportunities for 33 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: meat companies to make more value out of product. Also, 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: there's another stream there that's available to them, and that's 35 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: bobby calves and there's one point nine million of those 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: processed every year. If farmers choose to rear some of 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: those stock and the beef value chain as the hell 38 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: of an advantage for the. 39 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: Red meat sector that class one to six thing. Is 40 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: that going to solve a problem or has the horse 41 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: already bolted? 42 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 2: It will solve a problem, But we have lost stock 43 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: over the last three years. Might be in the vicinity 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: of I was trying to do some numbers on the 45 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: back of an envelope last night. Maybe a million lambs, 46 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: maybe two hundred thousand beef, four hundred thousand month, and 47 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: that's over three years. If you equate that number to 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: today's prices, it might be in the vicinity of a 49 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: billion dollars lost over three years. So it's unfortunate, but 50 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: I guess if we step back and think about the demand, 51 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: the demand is incredibly strong, particularly out of the US, 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: despite the ten percent tariff. UK EU fantastic just went 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: up to the China market with the PM recently green 54 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: shoots appearing there, so we're in very good shape, very 55 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: positive outlook. It's fantastic, good stuff. 56 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: Nathan. Nice to catch up with you with a good news, 57 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: Nathan Guy. Meat Industry Association Independent Chare Cattle herd sizes 58 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: in America lowest levels in seventy four years. This is 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: what I was reading yesterday. There is no sign that 60 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: any of that's changing. Prices through the roof in America, 61 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: so they're all angsty. It's the new egg story, but 62 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: there is no sign that that's changing anywhere. But the 63 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: demand stays the same. They cannot get enough meat for burgers, 64 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: and that's where we fit in, so it's good news. 65 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: News Talks at B from six am weekdays, or follow 67 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio