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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show You Can Trust The Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Bailey's Real Estate, doing real estate differently since nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy three, News togsadb Well you welcome.

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Speaker 2: Today we have new printing around AI for the country.

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Speaker 2: We've got concerns about the government's gun reform laws. The

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Speaker 2: Warriors have officially sold out their entire season. That makes

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Speaker 2: them the first NRAL club ever to do so. It's

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Speaker 2: PM Tuesday. Callum Hedge is home for the midseason break

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Speaker 2: in Indy, so we catch up with him. Our Katherine's

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Speaker 2: in France.

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Speaker 3: Rod is in the UK rules as well, pasking.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, Welcome to the day seven past six home ownership.

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Speaker 2: Home ownership stats If you haven't seen them look really

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Speaker 2: bad or do they? Ownerships drop below sixty percent. That's

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Speaker 2: the lowest since nineteen forty five. By twenty forty eight,

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Speaker 2: it's claimed they will drop another ten percent, which of

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Speaker 2: course means there will be more renters than there are owners.

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Speaker 2: So here's the trouble with all of this. The coverage

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Speaker 2: is written up as though it's bad news. The inference

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Speaker 2: is owning as good. Renting is bad, and that is

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Speaker 2: because well, that is the way it has always been

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Speaker 2: its own bad if we decide it's bad. People who

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Speaker 2: don't own a home want to own one but can't.

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Speaker 2: Also within that category are the ones who want to

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Speaker 2: but can't, but in reality we're never going to be

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Speaker 2: able to versus the ones who should be able to

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Speaker 2: but can't. See lots of things at play here. I mean,

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Speaker 2: do you buy a home so you can build wealth

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Speaker 2: or just because it's more fun to own than rent

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Speaker 2: and you can paint the walls any color you want.

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Speaker 2: How many people who could own but don't because they

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Speaker 2: don't get to live where they want or have the

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Speaker 2: quality of house they would like. What role had the

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Speaker 2: banks played in all of this with deposits and loan

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Speaker 2: to income ratios. What role does the government play and

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Speaker 2: rules around key you saber and first home loans and grunts?

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Speaker 2: How many people who can't afford a home are in

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Speaker 2: Auckland or Queenstown or Toweronga and locked out because the

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Speaker 2: markets are different to everywhere else in the country. See,

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Speaker 2: ownership is not a right, but it shouldn't be a privilege.

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Speaker 2: It should be hard like it has always been, but

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Speaker 2: doable if you really want it. Banks are looking at

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Speaker 2: new products like group loans, split ownership, rent to buy

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Speaker 2: looks like a decent IDEA long term rental projects where

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Speaker 2: you sign up to rent for thirty years could be

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Speaker 2: an answer for those not obsessed about ownership. See I

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Speaker 2: could suggest a lot of major cities all over the world,

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Speaker 2: from Rome to New York are not affordable and haven't

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Speaker 2: been for decades. But in New Zealand we like to

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Speaker 2: think we're a bit different, more egalitarian maybe though the

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Speaker 2: simple truth as we aren't. And this is the future,

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Speaker 2: whether you welcome.

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Speaker 3: It or not.

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Speaker 1: News of the World in ninety second tail a.

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Speaker 2: Couple of governments for your first Venezuela and the Duro

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Speaker 2: says he's won.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't win the spate sanctions, they couldn't win the

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Speaker 4: spade aggressions, they couldn't win the spate threats. They couldn't

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Speaker 4: now and they will never do so against the dignity

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Speaker 4: of the people of Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: And then in Britain, the new Mob have found the

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Speaker 2: old Mob made a lot of promises with no money

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Speaker 2: behind them. So you have a Stephen Joyce esque for Skillhole.

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Speaker 5: I will restore our country's economic stability. I will make

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Speaker 5: the tough choices. I will fix the foundations of our

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Speaker 5: economy so we can rebuild Britain and make every part

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Speaker 5: of our country better off.

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Speaker 2: The Tories are having none of that.

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Speaker 6: Those public finances were audited by the OBR just ten

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Speaker 6: weeks before the election was called. We're now expected to

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Speaker 6: believe that in that short period a twenty billion pound

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Speaker 6: black hole has magically emerged.

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Speaker 2: And then we have a dance workshop where anata got

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Speaker 2: loose with a knife.

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Speaker 7: And there was a woman who was screaming saying that

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Speaker 7: a child's she can't find a child, and they let

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Speaker 7: her into the.

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Speaker 8: Cordon and she ran down and mom.

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Speaker 9: So as she could hear with screaming and cry and

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Speaker 9: saying that's my child.

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Speaker 3: That's my child.

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Speaker 2: Home Secretary gave the update in the Commons.

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Speaker 10: I have been in contact with the Merseyside Police and

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Speaker 10: Crime Commissioner and the Merseyside Mayor to convey my support

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Speaker 10: to the police and our thanks to the police and

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Speaker 10: Emergency Services for their swift and courageous response.

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Speaker 2: Leaders We have on that two did nine are injured.

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Speaker 2: More with rod later on, of course, and a new

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Speaker 2: week in Washington where childless cat ladies is filled. The

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Speaker 2: topic du jour.

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Speaker 11: He was talking about how the Democratic Party has abandoned

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Speaker 11: the traditional family. They have trying to marginalize GD and

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Speaker 11: make him some kind of bad Person's not gonna work

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Speaker 11: because he's not a bad person.

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Speaker 2: He's a good person. Finally, the power of love. Scientists

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Speaker 2: on Columbia University spoted fast raging and people who had

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Speaker 2: lost a parent or a partner, or sibling or a

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Speaker 2: child before they turned eighteen. Signs weren't there on those

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Speaker 2: who had not lost someone close to them. Aging process

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Speaker 2: involved poor a mental health, cognitive impairment, heart metabolic issues.

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Speaker 2: The hope is that data can be used to better

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Speaker 2: pin point once sort of counseling is needed to help

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Speaker 2: people out the other side and let us news of

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Speaker 2: the world. In ninety second year, Miduros potentially got some

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Speaker 2: problems because the dancing in the streets was all choreographed.

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Speaker 2: As soon as the numbers are coming in, he said,

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Speaker 2: thanks very much, I won have won a third term

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Speaker 2: in office. At the exact same time the opposition claimed no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: they had won. So the international community and a number

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Speaker 2: of opposition groups are saying, you'll need to explain the numbers.

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Speaker 2: So we continue to watch and wait on that. Twelve

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Speaker 2: past six, come my costume breakfast. Hugh Edwards here, remember

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Speaker 2: the name, one of the most trusted names in British broadcasting.

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Speaker 2: His life has turned to shite child porn images this

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Speaker 2: morning thirty seven and Decent Images allegedly shared them on WhatsApp,

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Speaker 2: facing three charges making in decent images of children between

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Speaker 2: December twenty and April twenty two. Much more with Rod later.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen past six.

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Speaker 12: Jm.

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Speaker 2: Lph Andrew callaher good.

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Speaker 13: Morning, very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Update me on the labor market. We're getting worse. What's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Look, this is the monthly employment indicators release yesday

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Speaker 14: by Stats New Zealand. These are numbers for June twenty four.

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Speaker 14: We do keep an eye on the start a series, Mike,

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Speaker 14: when trying to sort of relay any trends, any themes

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Speaker 14: we might see in there to you. Now, this data

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Speaker 14: comes from the Inland Revenue Information so this is factual,

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Speaker 14: it's real. It's not a survey, it's not people's thoughts

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Speaker 14: and opinions. It's actually who is being paid, who's paying

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Speaker 14: taxes at the headline level. Lower numbers for June and

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Speaker 14: April and May that had previously announced they were revised lower.

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Speaker 14: So what you've got here, Mike, is more evidence that

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Speaker 14: the labor market is moving in the direction one that

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Speaker 14: move in two unfortunately necessary in terms of monetary policy context.

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Speaker 14: So sort of trying to calm the labor market down

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Speaker 14: hopefully get inflation down.

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Speaker 13: Now we don't get the.

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Speaker 14: Drop of official sort of labor market data until early August.

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Speaker 14: So the seasonally adjusted number of jobs filled fell in

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Speaker 14: June by zero point one percent, which isn't much, but

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Speaker 14: that's oney seven hundred and sixty six jobs. April was

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Speaker 14: originally released at minus point one, that was revised down

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Speaker 14: to minus point two. May was originally reported as flat

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Speaker 14: that was revised down to minus point three.

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Speaker 13: Thing is, Mike, we.

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Speaker 14: Haven't seen three consecutive monthly falls since the GFC, so

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Speaker 14: this continues another bit of data where we're actually the comparative.

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Speaker 14: The relative comparative is the g We're seeing this all

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Speaker 14: the time. So the total number of full jobs is

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Speaker 14: now up zero point two percent if we look at

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Speaker 14: compare it to the same time last year. But we've

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Speaker 14: had strong growth in the working ash population like of

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Speaker 14: around sort of three percent.

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Speaker 13: So the real effect of jobs.

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Speaker 14: Has actually fallen since last year if we look at

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Speaker 14: the actual numbers because people, you know, people do relate

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Speaker 14: more to actual numbers.

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Speaker 13: So this quarter, on a.

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Speaker 14: Seasonally adjusted basis, you've got fourteen three hundred fewer jobs.

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Speaker 14: If we look at the raw data, so not seasonally adjusted,

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Speaker 14: you've got thirty thousand fewer jobs. So unfortunately, I think

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Speaker 14: these numbers will continue in that vein, if not accelerate

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Speaker 2: Problem then we come to flatchers. Do they have troubles

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Speaker 2: like on all fronts.

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Speaker 13: Now They've just got they've got boat problems.

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Speaker 14: We've got boat problems everywhere now, so they've got problems

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Speaker 14: with cement. Not worth making it, but getting it where

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Speaker 14: it needs to go. So this is their subsidiary, Golden

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Speaker 13: The ships that the ship that.

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Speaker 14: Transports cement around the North Island from Golden Based manufacturing

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Speaker 14: not going anywhere it needs repairs. Golden base c event

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Speaker 14: road transport. Unfortunately, that costs more and it's going to

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Speaker 14: have an impact on their forecast earnings for FY for

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Speaker 14: financial year twenty five. At the moment, they're forecasting that

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Speaker 14: get it where it needs to go. That's an estimate,

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Speaker 14: though the final number will depend on a number of factors,

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Speaker 14: including just how long this problem goes on, what's the

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Speaker 14: problem with the ship, albums that take to get fixed,

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Speaker 14: all of that sort of stuff. The share price fell

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Speaker 14: impact on the share price five point seventy percent.

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Speaker 13: Another little challenge for Fletcher building continuation of a challenging period.

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Speaker 14: They did get some good news though recently they've got

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Speaker 14: a new director, so they're rebuilding the board in that

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Speaker 14: and the new director doesn't look a good appointment. So

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Speaker 14: can the new director moves some mental Probably not in

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Speaker 13: It wasn't on his cv cement moving skills was going

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Speaker 2: And then we come to honey. So how bad is

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Speaker 2: it for a compter?

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Speaker 13: It's not good.

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Speaker 14: And unfortunately you've got one of these series of so

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Speaker 14: it's convened as a listed company that sales honey and

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Speaker 14: honey products.

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Speaker 13: But we've talked before about this night.

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Speaker 14: When you get one bad announcement, then you get another one,

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Speaker 14: you tend to then start to get into sort of

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Speaker 14: a flow. They're very dependent on China announcement, you say,

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Speaker 14: on their result for this year. Look words, we've become

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Speaker 14: quite accustomed to now weakness in China trading conditions. We're

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Speaker 14: seeing that a lot that's continuing. There was a cancelation

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Speaker 14: of a festival, the six eighteen shopping festival that affected them.

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Speaker 13: Then you've got actually got the fact that when you've got.

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Speaker 14: Weak China, that flows into other related Asian markets.

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Speaker 13: Their fourth quarter sales below expectations.

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Speaker 14: They're guidance for the financial year FY twenty four for

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Speaker 14: the twenty four financial year.

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Speaker 13: It's now lower than the guidance that they gave in May.

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Speaker 14: Then they were saying two hundred and eleven to two

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Speaker 14: I'm glad to be fat and after them rip them

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Speaker 17: Just six packs sound I look great?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's so difficult here. Every time we

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Speaker 2: director Madaline Newman is with us. Medlin, good morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Good morning. I'm just looking at your website. You've got

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Speaker 18: Actually, you don't have very many people working for us

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Speaker 2: How many people in the group sit there and go,

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Speaker 18: I think that you join AI for one, because of

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Speaker 2: The level of individuality with an AI for us to

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Speaker 18: Well, we've got some really globally valuable strategic assets that

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Speaker 18: we are really good at this stuff. We have some

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Speaker 18: But data. So we've got really nationally significant data sets

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Speaker 2: That's now, that's a very good example. Can it do

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Speaker 18: So there are working examples of both of those. So

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Speaker 2: Apparently do we know when this is going to hit us?

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Speaker 2: In a look at this, this is how materially different

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Speaker 18: amazing is that? You know you spend that time building

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Speaker 2: What's the vibe on bad actors and how this is

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Speaker 18: There are always bad actors, and our emphasis is on

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Speaker 18: But this is an international an international technology, so we

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Speaker 2: Most interesting times go well, appreciate it. Very much, Medline Newman,

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Speaker 2: who is the AI Forum New Zealand executive director. It's

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Speaker 2: eighteen minutes away from seven. I don't have time to

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Speaker 2: give you the details, but in hours I'm going to

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Speaker 2: work it through. In an hour's time, going to work

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Speaker 2: it through with the Prime Minister from our You cannot

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Speaker 2: make this stuff up file thirty three million dollar Ministry

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Speaker 2: of Foreign Affairs and Trade cloud I T project nearly

444
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Speaker 2: tripled and cost since twenty twenty one, has been a

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Speaker 2: failure for all of its existence, and the wider ministry

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Speaker 2: was made aware of it before millions of dollars were misspent.

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Speaker 2: And it can be traced back to a moment where

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Speaker 2: somebody packed a sad and who was that person who

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Speaker 2: packed a sad? Miss j Adern and from doubt, from

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Speaker 2: there it went downhill. Anyway, you don't want to miss

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Speaker 2: the details because you can't make this stuff up. Seventeen

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Speaker 2: to two.

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Speaker 3: The Mike Costing Breakfast.

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Speaker 2: You raise a very good point on the text, Mike.

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Speaker 2: The challenge with AIS energy it uses heaps, so although

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Speaker 2: incredible in terms of what it can achieve, wonder how

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Speaker 2: this works for an already struggling country with energy costs Indeed,

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Speaker 2: by the time you do the evs and the data

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Speaker 2: centers and the crypto and the AI, you've got a

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Speaker 2: classic example of theory meeting reality. The theory is what

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Speaker 2: we might be able to do. The reality is we

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Speaker 2: don't have the power.

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Speaker 15: Fourteen to two International Correspondence with ends in eye Insurance

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Speaker 15: Peace of mind for New Zealand Business mart Captainfield.

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Speaker 9: How are you?

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Speaker 19: I'm good, Thank you, Mike, thank you for asking.

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Speaker 2: Not at all? Reassure me that are the phones working?

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Speaker 2: Are the trains going? Have you fixed at all?

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Speaker 19: They say it is all fixed.

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Speaker 16: Yes.

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Speaker 19: These two acts of sabotage, one the major one last Friday,

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Speaker 19: just before the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games. That

473
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Speaker 19: was the one that really got them got concern because

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Speaker 19: at the moment the authorities are leaning towards far left extremers.

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Speaker 19: Who carried out the sabotage. They knocked out three of

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Speaker 19: the main high speed train links to Paris, one to

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Speaker 19: the west, the east, one to the north, and was

478
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Speaker 19: only by luck that they managed to foil the one

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Speaker 19: the attack that was planned against the one to the south.

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Speaker 19: So they do say that the trains are up and

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Speaker 19: running again. Some eight hundred thousand people had their holiday

482
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Speaker 19: departure times completely messed up, but they are saying that

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Speaker 19: it looks as though it could be someone in the

484
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Speaker 19: ultra left. And then, of course Monday mornings news was

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Speaker 19: that there was vandalism on the fiber optic cables in

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Speaker 19: the network in the south of the country across four

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Speaker 19: or five different regions. So no one yet might linking

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Speaker 19: that vandalism to the between the telecoms and the trains,

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Speaker 19: but certainly it's a concern when being told to look

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Speaker 19: out for terrorism here in Paris and all this is

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Speaker 19: happening outside.

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Speaker 2: Last Supper was touch and go. I think there was

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Speaker 2: always going to be a bit touch and go. But overall,

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Speaker 2: what's the vibe of that that I think Sire did.

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Speaker 2: Did the locals love it?

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Speaker 19: Love it? Eighty five percent of French people thought it

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Speaker 19: was a great success, thought it was a great way

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Speaker 19: to show the world about French history, art culture. And

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Speaker 19: there was a bit of grumbling that the Olympic organizers

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Speaker 19: apologized to the church because of course they're the bishops

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Speaker 19: here in France and also in Italy complained they reckon

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Speaker 19: that that Last Supper was actually a sycology but in fact,

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Speaker 19: the choreographer came up yesterday, in fact on television, said

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Speaker 19: it had nothing to do with the Laspa. It represented

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Speaker 19: Greek gods in ancient Greece, the home of the Olympi,

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Speaker 19: and them having their religious festival, nothing to do with

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Speaker 19: the Last Supper.

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Speaker 3: He said.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now the Sin doesn't look good and the forecast

510
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Speaker 2: doesn't look good to either. What are they going to do?

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Speaker 19: Oh, they're playing this hour by hour might Yes, they've

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Speaker 19: had to cancel those familiarization dips into the sand for

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Speaker 19: the triathletes. Had to cancel it Sunday, had to cancel

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Speaker 19: it Monday. The latest we've heard is that the coal

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Speaker 19: i is between three and five times above the acceptable level.

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Speaker 19: The big question mark really is you did everything go

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Speaker 19: according to playing? Okay, Yes, they couldn't predict that there

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Speaker 19: was going to be so much rain during the opening ceremony,

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Speaker 19: But they say one of the biggest money wastages came

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Speaker 19: actually with that reservoir that they built at the end

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Speaker 19: of the Sin going out of Paris, where all of

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Speaker 19: the sewage was meant to go, and it was meant

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Speaker 19: to go in there and not into the river. They

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Speaker 19: say that was just a waste of money, just too

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Speaker 19: many pipes connected up, too much could have gone wrong,

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Speaker 19: And in fact, the plumbing of homes and Paris should

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Speaker 19: have been dealt with decades ago, and not just a

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Speaker 19: couple of years ago as the Olympics was approaching.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this business of the rain. Is it unusual to

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Speaker 2: rain this much in Paris in the latter part of July?

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Speaker 2: It is, yeah, really unusual.

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Speaker 19: I haven't had this sort of heavy rain for at

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Speaker 19: least twenty years.

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Speaker 9: The reason the locals.

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Speaker 19: Aren't complaining, Mike, is because we've had so many drums lately,

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Speaker 19: the climate change. We've had that, so the locals think

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Speaker 19: it's great, you know, yes, let it rain, because then

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Speaker 19: the rain stops and we get the temperatures that we've

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Speaker 19: now got for today and tomorrow, which is about thirty

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Speaker 19: five degrees. It's great heat waves. So if the rains come,

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Speaker 19: then enjoy it, because the heat will come after it.

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Speaker 2: What as a pleasure, Catherine, go, well, we'll catch up

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Speaker 2: next week. Catherinfield and France. My daughter has been literally

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Speaker 2: at the moment she said, was twenty five the other day.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem to be the sort of the summer

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Speaker 2: the last couple of summers we've experienced in Europe, those

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Speaker 2: high thirties, early forties, and the stories of elderly people

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Speaker 2: dying and stuff. It seems to be a wet and

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Speaker 2: coolish sort of summer. If you watch the f one

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Speaker 2: in Belgium. Got a son in London, he says, it's

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Speaker 2: permanently raining and cold in that part of the world

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Speaker 2: at the moment. So Europe seems to be having a

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Speaker 2: very mild, i not wet summer. Night Away from seven

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Speaker 2: on the.

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Speaker 1: Cost Geel Breakfast with Alveda Retirement Communities News togs.

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Speaker 2: Had been like the French obtained to the whole affair

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Speaker 2: with ideological idiocy. There's an element of truth to that,

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Speaker 2: because I'm reading a report this morning out of Australia.

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Speaker 2: The Olympic village is turning into a major, major problem

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Speaker 2: the vegan diets. There's a lot of vegan in there,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of athletes don't actually like vegan or

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Speaker 2: indeed want vegan, or as far as your dietary requirements

563
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Speaker 2: are concerned, their body needs something more than that. There

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Speaker 2: a lot of green washing going on, so there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of complaints not only about the food but the

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Speaker 2: cardboard beds and the transport that doesn't get them to

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Speaker 2: where they want to go. Australia's brought their own air

568
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Speaker 2: conditioning units, brought their own chefs and barristas Cocoa Goff

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Speaker 2: and her fellow Tennis's they checked out and went into

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Speaker 2: a hotel for a regular fud widely reported to be

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Speaker 2: dominated by the vegan diet. And if you're not vegan,

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Speaker 2: you're not interested. By the way, speaking of not interested,

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Speaker 2: I haven't given you much time on Biden today and

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Speaker 2: his ophed piece about reforming the This is a sad end,

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Speaker 2: it really is. What he's going to do now is

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Speaker 2: basically write op ed pieces and thought bubbles about things

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Speaker 2: he wants to do. And one of the things he

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Speaker 2: alluded to the other day was, of course, reformed the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court. So obviously the first question to ask is

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Speaker 2: how does one reform the Supreme Court? And the answer

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Speaker 2: is before you get to any ideas as to how

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Speaker 2: he may or may not do it. Three of which

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Speaker 2: he's put forward today is would you require the support

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Speaker 2: of quite a lot of people in the Congress, And

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Speaker 2: the answer is yes, you would. Indeed, you would require

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Speaker 2: a two thirds majority next question, what do you think

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Speaker 2: the chances of Biden getting a two thirds majority? That's right, zero,

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Speaker 2: end of story. Five to seven.

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Speaker 3: The ins and the outs, it's the biz.

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Speaker 1: With business fiber, take your business from activity to the

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Speaker 1: next level.

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Speaker 2: I told you about Lamborghini and their record sales. I

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Speaker 2: can tell you about McDonald's and they're not doing so

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Speaker 2: well at all. This is globally. Second quarter runings missed

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Speaker 2: all marks. This morning, they had a Q two income

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Speaker 2: of three point four billion dollars, down from three point nine.

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Speaker 2: Same store sales and every single division were also down

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Speaker 2: a one percent instead of the zero point four percent

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Speaker 2: growth they thought they were going to get. First time

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Speaker 2: sales have fallen since COVID. You maybe think one percent

601
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Speaker 2: is that a big deal? Well, it is because it

602
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Speaker 2: compares with a ten point three percent increase in same

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Speaker 2: store sales this time last year. So what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Too expensive and protesters. They got protesters and it's too expensive.

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Speaker 2: Average price of a big Mac in the States now

606
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Speaker 2: is nine dollars in New Zealand, which is up twenty

607
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Speaker 2: one percent since twenty nineteen. That's inflation for you. The

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Speaker 2: layers made to serve on the US showed sixty percent

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Speaker 2: of people are cutting back on how much they spend

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Speaker 2: on fast food, so it's no wonder compeople are complaining

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Speaker 2: about a nine dollar big Mac. They also lost money

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Speaker 2: because people protesting in their franchises in Israel, so the

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Speaker 2: executives are now looking at ways to lower the price

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Speaker 2: of their products and to try and get back into profit.

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Speaker 2: Four Q three and we can only I recommend they

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Speaker 2: bring back that port thing. Was that pork sandwich thing

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Speaker 2: they did for a while many years ago. They did

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Speaker 2: a pork sandwich, Yeah, pork rib sandwich. That was one

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Speaker 2: of those we'll bring it in and toy with you

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Speaker 2: and then take it away and then bring it back

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Speaker 2: and take it away. And you know, one of those

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Speaker 2: things I reckon the other winners. I mean I never

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Speaker 2: had one, but I was told that they were quite good.

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Speaker 2: And no, exactly never I hate pork. But anyway, apparently,

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Speaker 2: you know, people thought it was the go to. Anyway, guns,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about guns after the news, shall we?

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Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers.

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Speaker 3: The mic Hosking.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Jaguar The Art of Performance News TOG said

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Speaker 1: b in.

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Speaker 2: The quarter finals and the sevens twelve five. As we

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Speaker 2: we got the conversion doesn't really matter twelve fourteen five

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Speaker 2: one or the other. We're beating China at the moment.

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Speaker 2: The Justice Select Committee believes police may have too much

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Speaker 2: power when it comes to warrantless searchers. So several changes

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Speaker 2: have been recommended to soften the Firearms Prohibition Amendment Bill.

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Speaker 2: So where does this lead the government's crack down on gangs?

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Speaker 2: For example, the Police Association president Chris Carr Hill's back. Well,

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Speaker 2: this is Chris, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 12: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: If this goes through, does it make your life harder

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Speaker 2: if you can't search where you want to search?

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Speaker 20: Now, look, when the firearms prohibition orders were boorded by labor,

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Speaker 20: they had no search pairs at all, and that was

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Speaker 20: always we said that toothlus without it. So national change

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Speaker 20: that or this government change that said that we're going

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Speaker 20: to have search pairs. They probably pushed their luck going

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Speaker 20: that you could use it with suspect rather than believe.

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Speaker 20: You know, that's a subtle thing to some, but when

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Speaker 20: you're actually excising that pair, having the belief throw and

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Speaker 20: just suspicion is important. And then just limiting exactly where

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Speaker 20: you can search us is probably fair enough. You've got

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Speaker 20: to get the mixed right when you're using coersive pairs.

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Speaker 20: So I think we can still do a job pretty well.

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Speaker 20: That's what they've come up with.

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Speaker 2: So you would back yourself to in whatever circumstance you

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Speaker 2: need to go and search for something, you will be

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Speaker 2: able to have the law that backs.

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Speaker 3: You up to do it.

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Speaker 20: As long as you believe the person you're dealing with

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Speaker 20: has a firearms prohibition order now and the majority of

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Speaker 20: the times you're going to know you can do a

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Speaker 20: computer check straight away. But if you don't, the person

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Speaker 20: gives you a false name and you think I believe

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Speaker 20: your line and I think I know who you really are,

666
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Speaker 20: you can still use it. But if you're just suspicious

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Speaker 20: that he is, you could And I think that's your

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Speaker 20: next when you're using pass like this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is this? I read some of the stuff that

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Speaker 2: the committee's looking at. The committee to a point seems

671
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Speaker 2: to have wandered into the weeds, and they've got a

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Speaker 2: lot of red tape coming and you're second guessing everything

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Speaker 2: and you might be able to do this, but then

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Speaker 2: you can't do that, And what if you're over there

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Speaker 2: but not over here. Is it got that about it

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Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 20: It has a little bit. But I think the challenge

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Speaker 20: they've got is they know the courts are going to

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Speaker 20: scrutinize this really closely. The Bill of Rights is going

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Speaker 20: to come into play, so I think they're trying to

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Speaker 20: get that mix right. And but what police have always learned,

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Speaker 20: you can pass whatever all you like. In the end,

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Speaker 20: it's how the courts entern but it so these are

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Speaker 20: things that are going to heavily challenged in the court,

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Speaker 20: probably all the way to the Supreme Court. So we'll

686
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Speaker 20: just have to see how that unfolds. But I think

687
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Speaker 20: they've got the mix right on paper, and then we'll

688
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Speaker 20: just have to see how the theory works. But it's

689
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Speaker 20: certainly better than what we had with no search pairs whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you got to be on Andrew Costa. Moving on.

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Speaker 20: Oh look, I think nothing against Andrew, but I think

692
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Speaker 20: time for a change. You know. I think we've got

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Speaker 20: a new government with a different focus, and I think

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Speaker 20: they probably want to see someone different there. I think

695
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Speaker 20: everyone really for a bit of a change for five years.

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Speaker 2: Good on, hYP nice to talk to you, appreciate it

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Speaker 2: very much. And it was sort of my view yesterday wasn't

698
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Speaker 2: it was a nice enough guy. But Chris Carhill of

699
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Speaker 2: the Police Association. Ten minutes past seven skip back to

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Speaker 2: the hospital industry where we discovered that despite and we

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Speaker 2: spent a bit of time on this yesterday, we discovered

702
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Speaker 2: that despite the narrative that things are dreadful are the

703
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Speaker 2: numbers actually tell a different story. We are seeing the

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Speaker 2: industry breaking over fifteen billion dollars, which is growth of

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Speaker 2: five point eight percent. That's nationally places like Queen Stanle

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Speaker 2: and Time, and from feedback, First Table seems to be

707
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Speaker 2: as popular as ever. First Table's local invention basically half

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Speaker 2: price or special deals when dining it off Pick Times anyway,

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Speaker 2: The founder and CEO, Matt Wi is with us on

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Speaker 2: this Matt Morning to you.

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Speaker 16: Good morning, Mike, thanks for having me on the show

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Speaker 16: this morning.

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Speaker 2: Not at all ten years and booming is that a

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Speaker 2: fair description?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, ten years. It's been a long journey, but yeah,

716
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Speaker 16: things for tracking well over a million accounts.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean? Half a million accounts. It's half

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Speaker 2: a million New Zealanders who have an account, open and

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Speaker 2: use it.

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Speaker 16: That's right. That's over half a million people who have

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Speaker 16: signed up on the website or the app over the

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Speaker 16: last ten years, and.

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Speaker 2: Are they one offs or regulars or what?

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Speaker 16: A lot of them are one offs, but then there

725
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Speaker 16: are certainly people that are using the platform on a

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Speaker 16: regular basis. There are customers that are monthly using First Table.

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Speaker 2: What's your read on the I mean, the reason I'm

728
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Speaker 2: interested is because we have this picture at the moment

729
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Speaker 2: where everything is absolutely miserable, and yet when you actually

730
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Speaker 2: look at the stats, the money's up, the number of

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Speaker 2: people are up, the number of outlets up. What's going on?

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Speaker 16: Well, I think that's I think some restaurants are experienced

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Speaker 16: in chart challenges right, and some are doing well. So

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Speaker 16: it's not just a plain story of everyone's having a

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Speaker 16: hard time at the moment. So it's something that we're

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Speaker 16: very much aware of and we're very very much focused

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Speaker 16: on helping restaurants solve a small part of their problems.

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Speaker 2: And so are people. Is there still an awareness thing

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Speaker 2: around this or is everybody know? And if you know,

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Speaker 2: you use it?

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Speaker 16: So First Table. I mean, as we said, there's five

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Speaker 16: hundred thousand people who have created an account, but we're

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Speaker 16: doing it. We're doing a lot in sales and marketing

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Speaker 16: at the moment, So we're bringing on a lot more

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Speaker 16: restaurants and a lot more diners. And also the word

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Speaker 16: of mouth element is one of our strongest referral channels.

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Speaker 16: So people are definitely talking about First Table at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Nice to talk to you, Matt. Appreciate it

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Speaker 2: and go well with it. Matt Weia whose First Table

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Speaker 2: founder and CEO. And I'm just looking through the argiest

751
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Speaker 2: places in christ You're strawbly fair in christ WI. You

752
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Speaker 2: count beat that if you can get that for the

753
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Speaker 2: high price. You're laughing the bunker, fantastic Queenstown. How for us?

754
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Speaker 2: Not bad going? It's thirteen minutes past seven. Speaking of

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Speaker 2: functions and money this business. Cape McNamara strikes again in

756
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Speaker 2: the Herald Well done her film Commission. There's something not

757
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Speaker 2: right with the public service. You've got to be of

758
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: a certain ilk to work in the public service, and

759
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 2: so many people have been laid off. Thousands and thousands

760
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Speaker 2: of people have been laid off. Meantime at the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Film Commission, a couple of parties. It's party time

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Speaker 2: at the Film Commission sixteen four hundred and thirty one

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Speaker 2: dollars worth of parties, two parties eight thousand dollars a

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Speaker 2: party eight thousand, two hundred dollars A party incoming. CEO

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Speaker 2: Annie Murray needed a party eighty six hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: seven dollars for her party. There was a person leaving.

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Speaker 2: I'm not against a person leaving, especially a long serving,

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Speaker 2: well respected person leaving. You have a party. Nothing wrong

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Speaker 2: with that, I get it. Venue Higher. But she had

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Speaker 2: two parties. She had won in Auckland one and Wellington.

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Speaker 2: You just go around the country when I leave here.

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Speaker 2: I well, first of all, I'm not going to have

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Speaker 2: a party as a hate party.

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Speaker 21: Oh I will have a party.

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Speaker 2: You have a party, You have a party. You just

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Speaker 2: won't be there exactly. They'll be celebrating me leaving. But

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Speaker 2: having said that, you won't be all over the country.

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Speaker 2: And this is where the public service go dreadfully wrong.

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Speaker 2: Venue hire chef can I can almost say categorically that

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Speaker 2: we don't do chefs here.

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Speaker 21: Well, when you leave, will it not be like you

782
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Speaker 21: know that time when we won the America's carp and

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Speaker 21: then they had like parades in different towns in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: And you know, modesty prevents me from talking about those

785
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Speaker 2: details at this particular point in time, but not far wrong.

786
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Speaker 2: Glenn Staff costs nineteen hundred and twenty eight alcohol, eleven

787
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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy eight catering air fares up and down

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Speaker 2: the country. But this welcome to the workplace thing worries

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Speaker 2: the but Jesus out of me a party to say

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Speaker 2: you've arrived. What's going on there in the public service

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Speaker 2: that you can even begin to justify this anyway? Between

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Speaker 2: that and the thirty three million dollars at the Ministry

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Speaker 2: of Foreign Affairs and Trade for their computer program. Chris

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Speaker 2: Luxinton for a good time on the Mike, asking breakfast

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Speaker 2: this morning, fourteen past seven, the make hosty breakers thirty

796
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Speaker 2: six five and the sevens with two minutes to go,

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Speaker 2: so I think we can bank that one seventeen minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven. Speaking of sport, fresh off the back of

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Speaker 2: the Tigers, when we've got news from the Warriors this

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Speaker 2: morning that the club's officially sold out their entire season.

801
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Speaker 2: That makes them the first team in our real history

802
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Speaker 2: to do that. The Warrior's chief executive Cameron George is withs. Cameron,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you morning. What's that actually mean

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Speaker 2: when you've sold out the season? Does that mean I

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Speaker 2: can't get a ticket for your remaining home games.

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Speaker 22: That's right. Yeah, So we sold out yesterday officially for

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Speaker 22: the last two games. So I think at one stage

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Speaker 22: I was talking to guys had three tickets left and

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Speaker 22: they got stapped up there in front of us. So,

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Speaker 22: you know, it's a fantastic effort by our fan base

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Speaker 22: and members and just very appreciative of the privilege of

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Speaker 22: the situation we're in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an amazing story. What's the split do you

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Speaker 2: know between the season ticket holder and the walk Cup.

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Speaker 22: So full season ticket holders, we have about eight thousand

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Speaker 22: of full season in total, seventeen thousand and members across

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Speaker 22: the season with various membership packages, so we're selling about,

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Speaker 22: you know, thirteen to fourteen thousand seats per game. Wow,

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Speaker 22: And look they've just been they've been the highest ticket

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Speaker 22: in town for a long time now. And just a

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Speaker 22: little proud of our staff for the show and the

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Speaker 22: event that they put on, because that's been a big

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Speaker 22: focus of ours, and you know, people just don't want

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Speaker 22: to miss out and it's just so good to see

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Speaker 22: so many kids there and families there, so hopefully they're

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Speaker 22: fans for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Do you have data on other clubs in the NFL,

828
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Speaker 2: could they tell you where they're at and how far

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Speaker 2: ahead of the game you are in this department.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, we do get benchmarking data and all that sort

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Speaker 22: of stuff and that's all great. But Mike, at the

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Speaker 22: start of the year, you know, we just wanted a

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Speaker 22: real effort as a footag club here to be the

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Speaker 22: best we can be in the New Zealand market, because

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Speaker 22: trying to compare ourselves to the Australian market and different

836
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 22: states is quite difficult. But they all had different shapes

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Speaker 22: and sizes and stadiums. But we just want to be

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Speaker 22: the best in New Zealand and want to be number one,

839
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Speaker 22: and hopefully we've achieved that now and now we'll start

840
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Speaker 22: to compare to other markets in Australia and the NRL

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Speaker 22: and sport For the.

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Speaker 2: Bottom line, I mean, you've got to be a pretty

843
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 2: healthy looking club financially, mustn't you. I mean, you can't

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Speaker 2: do any more than sell out.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, that's right, we can't do any more than that. Yeah,

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Speaker 22: So we've done well. We're reinvesting a lot of it

847
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Speaker 22: back in our footy programs. With five teams now in

848
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 22: the NRLW coming on next year, so we're finding a

849
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Speaker 22: place to put the money. But look, it does do well,

850
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Speaker 22: but it seriously goes back in the club, and that's

851
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 22: great for Mark Robinson, our owner, that's his commitment. He

852
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 22: just wants to see it reinvested and grow our brand

853
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 22: and our club.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on it, well done, Cameron George CEO sold out

855
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Speaker 2: only club and NURL history to sell out in the

856
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Speaker 2: entire season. Mike, who cares about sixteen k onspit pennies

857
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Speaker 2: and pounds? My friend, pennies and pounds. Mike ree Hospo,

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00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: you're overlooking margin squeeze. No I'm not. Once again, let

859
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 2: me reiterate this. No one's arguing about margin squeeze or profits. Yes,

860
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 2: everyone's squeezed at the moment. Profits aren't what the world.

861
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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is what's being presented to us versus

862
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: what is reality. Are two different things. Are things tight?

863
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: Of course they are. We've been in a recession, for

864
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Speaker 2: God's sake. But this whole idea that no one goes

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Speaker 2: out anymore, that the doors are closing simply isn't true.

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Speaker 2: Mike just tuned in. My wife and I went to

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Speaker 2: the food show loved at Packed spent two hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: on takeaway treats, so people are out and about in

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Speaker 2: that sense, seven twenty.

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Speaker 3: My costkil breakfast.

871
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Speaker 2: Now, if you're a business leader, you're always looking for

872
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Speaker 2: innovative ideas, ways to make better business decisions. Of course,

873
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Speaker 2: so how can you help your team think of new

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893
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894
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895
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Speaker 2: Now the way Tangy Tribunal strikes again at a time

896
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Speaker 2: when the office looks that actually you know, looks after

897
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Speaker 2: the money that gets handed out to the murray to

898
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Speaker 2: head off to court. They're in real trouble financially because

899
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: they've basically run out of money. The Tribunal is busy,

900
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: though at the same time pumping out report after report,

901
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: costing Lord knows how much to achieve virtually nothing. The

902
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: latest report deals with the government's actions around tomorrow's schools review,

903
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: in which the tribute Unial has decided they breached treaty principles. Now,

904
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: the report, by the way, is a first in the

905
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Speaker 2: sense it's printed entirely in Maori. There are English versions

906
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: of chapters three through seven apparently, which is very nice

907
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: of them. But the approach gives you some indication of

908
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: where their heads in the world viewer is at. It

909
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 2: also deals with the review that happened over the period

910
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two, So a couple of

911
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: things about that. That was another government. That government is

912
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: no longer running the place, So what was it the

913
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: Tribunal was expecting labor to do about all. The second

914
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: fairly significant point is that not only does it deal

915
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Speaker 2: with the government that no longer exists, it, like all

916
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: its other reports, is not binding. In other words, it's

917
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: an opinion and that's about it. So given what we

918
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: saw last week from the government with the customary rights

919
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Speaker 2: decision by the Court of Appeal, which is an actual

920
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Speaker 2: court that makes binding decisions, You've got to wonder just

921
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: how hard the Tribunal is pushing the envelope and asking

922
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: for trouble. All of this, of course, is taxpayer funded,

923
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 2: and in a country that is less than no money

924
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: and the purse rings are constantly looking to be tightened,

925
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: how much longer can urgent hearings be held that offer

926
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Speaker 2: taxpayer funded opinions with little of any standing and deal

927
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Speaker 2: to a time that has passed with absolutely no chance

928
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Speaker 2: of anything coming out of it at all. The tribunal

929
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Speaker 2: fifty years ago set up to deal with historic grievance,

930
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: made some sense and did some good work and righted

931
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Speaker 2: some very large wrongs. The modern day Wacamole report gravy

932
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Speaker 2: train isn't so inspiring fasking but on the calculator, so

933
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Speaker 2: reported to this morning, as the government has set aside

934
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Speaker 2: a couple of angsty things that people are mean. The

935
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Speaker 2: boot camps is one that all the opponents of the

936
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Speaker 2: government really sort of exercised about. Boot camps as one.

937
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Speaker 2: Tobacco is another. Gun reform, So we dealt with gun

938
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Speaker 2: reform a moment ago. Tobacco and Casey Costello. The Labour

939
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Speaker 2: Party seem obsessed with Casey Costello and her presumed links

940
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Speaker 2: to tobacco. Anyway, the government has set aside two hundred

941
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Speaker 2: and sixteen million dollars to pay for the tax cuts

942
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Speaker 2: around the heated tobacco products. When I say tax cuts,

943
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Speaker 2: it'll be because they're alluring the excise. It means money

944
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Speaker 2: they don't get. So they've set aside a contingency of

945
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Speaker 2: two hundred and sixteen million dollars. Now, we had a

946
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: bloke on the program the other day that said, look,

947
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Speaker 2: it's probably worth a crack if you want to get

948
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Speaker 2: people not smoking in this country, heat to tobacco products

949
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: might be worth a crack. He reckoned they could help

950
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Speaker 2: about seven thousand people. So outcomes from a calculator, and

951
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at this, the government loses two hundred and

952
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Speaker 2: sixteen million dollars in excise to help seven thousand people.

953
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Speaker 2: Do the math. Well, I've done the math. Don't do

954
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Speaker 2: the math. I've done the math for you. Thirty thousand

955
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Speaker 2: apeece thirty thousand dollars per man, woman and child to

956
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Speaker 2: help them theoretically, allegedly somehow give up smoking.

957
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Speaker 3: Is that worth it?

958
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Speaker 2: I take the two sixteen lit people. You know you

959
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: want to ruin your health in your life, go do it?

960
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Speaker 2: Mind you. That counter argument is you end up in

961
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Speaker 2: the health system. We pay for that as well. I

962
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Speaker 2: get all of that anyway. Christophalaction's got a bit on

963
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Speaker 2: us plate this morning. I got a I've got a

964
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Speaker 2: tsunami of expenditure wastage that we need we're going to

965
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Speaker 2: need to get into directly after the news, which is

966
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Speaker 2: next here, A news talk said, beat.

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and for use the Mic

968
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Speaker 1: Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate differently.

969
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Speaker 3: Since nineteen seventy three, News togs had been.

970
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Speaker 2: Keels back in the country mid season. He's Indy next.

971
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Speaker 2: Of course, last time we had him on the program

972
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Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year, he'd come off as

973
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Speaker 2: success last year was heading off to Windy currently fourth

974
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Speaker 2: in the standing seasons. Taking a break. He's back home,

975
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Speaker 2: so we'll take the chance of a catch up after eight. Meantime,

976
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Speaker 2: choose the morning Prime Minister christpher lections. But it was

977
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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

978
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Speaker 17: Good morning, Mike.

979
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Speaker 2: Now, I've got a lot of wastage going on. I

980
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Speaker 2: hope you're aware of this. Are you up on the

981
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Speaker 2: New Zealand Film Commission? And there are many and varied

982
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Speaker 2: parties that the taxpayers funding.

983
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Speaker 3: A little bit?

984
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Speaker 22: Yep, what are you gonna talk about?

985
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Speaker 2: The part that it's allowed to happen and when does

986
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Speaker 2: it stop?

987
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 17: Sorry, I just said it again, the part.

988
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 2: That it happens and when does it stop?

989
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Speaker 17: The film commission.

990
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Speaker 2: Have we got a bad phone line or something we

991
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: might do?

992
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Speaker 22: Sorry about that.

993
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Speaker 17: You're breaking up a little bit, but but yes, you

994
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Speaker 17: start again, okay.

995
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Speaker 2: Film Commission are hosting parties for people who are leaving,

996
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Speaker 2: and they're hosting parties for people who are arriving, and

997
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Speaker 2: it's costing us tens of thousands of dollars. Is that acceptable?

998
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 17: Well, again, I'm not aware of what they're doing exactly

999
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Speaker 17: in terms of their operational details. So they're trying to attract.

1000
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Speaker 22: People to actually do projects here. We've got a good.

1001
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 17: Amount of projects coming into New Zealand, which is good

1002
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Speaker 17: for our industry in the sector here. That's been a

1003
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Speaker 17: good thing. I'm not exactly sure what's appropriate or what

1004
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 17: level they've been doing hosting and trying to attract projects

1005
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 17: to New Zealand. I think it's good that they do

1006
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 17: do that.

1007
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: But when a CEO arrives and they say, let's have

1008
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: a party for an arriving CEO and they spend eight

1009
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 2: thousand dollars doing that, is that typical of the public service?

1010
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Speaker 17: Well, that wouldn't seem appropriate to me. I mean, I

1011
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 17: think you want to be able to have high level

1012
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 17: engagement to welcome a CEO and to talk about the

1013
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 17: project they want to get involved with. When I was

1014
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 17: in California, for example, when I met with Apple, they

1015
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 17: want to do a number of productions here in New Zealand.

1016
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Speaker 22: They don't need a party for that, and they just need.

1017
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 17: To know that I'm aware of what's going on, and

1018
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 17: I'm encouraging them to choose US over Ireland or Yugoslavia

1019
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 17: or some other place to do the project.

1020
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: So is there a message from the government top down

1021
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: going to the government departments that we're not having parties

1022
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: and they're unacceptable or has that message been ignored or

1023
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: was there no message at all.

1024
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Speaker 17: No, that message is being applied on a regular basis,

1025
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 17: and I've made it really really clear. I'm expecting every

1026
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 17: single public sector CEO to deliver within their budgets. You

1027
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 17: would have seen us make big interventions on say Health

1028
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 17: New Zealand recently Housing New Zealand Disability Services. When we

1029
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 17: give you a budget, we expect you to deliver it

1030
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Speaker 17: and manage within the funds that we've got Health to

1031
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 17: classic right, thirty billion dollars of spend a year, sixteen

1032
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 17: point seven billion, going more, and then all of a

1033
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 17: sudden the deficit emerges because there's very poor financial control

1034
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 17: and understanding of what's going on. Unacceptable. That's why I

1035
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 17: put a commissioner in. So I think you know, the

1036
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 17: message is pretty clear.

1037
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Speaker 13: I don't know.

1038
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Speaker 17: I make it clear every day of my interactions with

1039
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Speaker 17: CEOs and different officials about what we're expecting to do,

1040
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Speaker 17: you know, and imagine there'll be some dumb stuff, yes,

1041
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 17: and people want to make sure that that's corrected very

1042
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Speaker 17: very quickly.

1043
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 3: Right.

1044
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: What about the thirty three million that the Ministry of

1045
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: Foreign Affairs and Trade it project? It nearly tripled in

1046
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: costs since it started in twenty twenty one. It's been

1047
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: a failure for all of its existence, and the wider

1048
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: ministry was made aware of it before millions of dollars

1049
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: more were misspent. How does that happen?

1050
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, we'll come away.

1051
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 17: That's a project that was think was picked off under

1052
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 17: our jurn government and yet there was over spending in there.

1053
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Speaker 17: And there's been interventions made from the top of him

1054
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 17: fact to make sure that's gripped up.

1055
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Speaker 22: And when St.

1056
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Speaker 17: Peter's Minister Foreign Affairs was briefed about it, and he's

1057
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 17: laid little down pretty firmly, and obviously it's been quite

1058
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 17: a lot of change happening as a result of that.

1059
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 17: So you know, again those are things that are happening.

1060
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 17: I mean, there is literally in public spending important that

1061
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 17: they understand that is taxpayers money. There has to be

1062
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 17: spent really prudently, and you spend it as if it's

1063
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 17: your own money, as if you know, you do your

1064
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 17: own family budget. So we're building that culture back into Wellington.

1065
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 17: We have to build it back in. But yeah, that's

1066
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 17: a good example of project that's run and it can't

1067
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 17: be let the if products are over running. We want

1068
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 17: that surface very quickly. We want to know about it,

1069
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 17: and we want more an action plan to get it

1070
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 17: back on track again and on time.

1071
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: So what's your observation of this? And this comes out

1072
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Speaker 2: of your POSTCAB press conference, which once again I waited

1073
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Speaker 2: my way through for forty minutes yesterday, as you.

1074
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 22: Real I appreciate you listening to that, like I really do.

1075
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you're telling us yesterday that members of boards

1076
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: and executives and health couldn't get basic financial information. I mean, yes,

1077
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: is that possible?

1078
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 22: I don't know.

1079
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 17: That's why we've made the interventions we have because when

1080
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 17: you told everything's fine and then it finds out, you

1081
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 17: find out there's actually not very good cash flow analysis.

1082
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 17: There's twenty one different accounts payoff systems. You know what

1083
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 17: actually happened, Let's be honest about it was a really

1084
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 17: botched merger. We've seen it now in tpoo King, we've

1085
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 17: seen in disability services, We've seen it in KO, We've

1086
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 17: seen it in Health New Zealand, where Actually, when you

1087
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Speaker 17: I remember mergers and acquisitions, well, if you buy a

1088
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Speaker 17: new company, you really quickly identify this, get out the

1089
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 17: duplication and make sure it's imbedded properly into the organization,

1090
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 17: and you build a proper organization. In this case, twenty

1091
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 17: one DHB is basically carried on big slack of a

1092
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 17: big layer of management over the top of it, and

1093
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 17: no financial reporting and literacy to the board provided to

1094
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 17: the board, and the board not able and didn't ask

1095
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 17: questions about information they needed to know. And so I

1096
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 17: no longer a board, no longer a deven, a commissioner

1097
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 17: with very big powers to act and move very very quickly,

1098
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 17: un less to living and he'll be great. I think

1099
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 17: you might have had him.

1100
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Speaker 22: On the show.

1101
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Speaker 17: But yeah, he's a pretty straight talker. And I meet

1102
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 17: with him now with Nicola, Willis Shamdia, myself and him

1103
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 17: and his commissioners, and we go on a regular meeting

1104
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 17: to say, right, oh, what is happening this week? What

1105
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 17: are we doing, and what are the challenges that you're

1106
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 17: encountering with In a matter of a week and a bit,

1107
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 17: low and behold, for the first time there's been in

1108
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 17: decent cash flow analysis, which is when you're trying to

1109
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 17: run a large organization eighty five thousand people, thirty billion

1110
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 17: dollars worth of spending and more money coming into it.

1111
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 22: It's kind of a basic, right it is.

1112
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: I just despair what you're having to deal with. Then

1113
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: I'm reading yesterday about the National Disaster Coordination System. Right,

1114
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: So a COP a common operating platform. So New Zealand's

1115
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: latest attempt to build a COP was abandoned weeks ago.

1116
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: The country lacks even a proper foundation for one. Spatial

1117
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: data infrastructure is what we're talking about. This is despite

1118
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: Cabinet ordering an SDI to be built in twenty fourteen,

1119
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: saying it would boost the economy by billions of dollars,

1120
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: organizations didn't want to share their data. Not only has

1121
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: an SDI never been built, the National Geospatial Office, which

1122
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: has only ever had two or three people in it

1123
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: any way, folded in twenty eighteen and we wonder when

1124
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: it rains, why the same crap happens over and over

1125
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: and over again.

1126
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 17: Data management is a major major issue, right, And if

1127
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 17: you don't collect the data, you can't analyze it, and

1128
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 17: then you can't take action on it. And it's not

1129
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 17: about just collecting data. You've got to have action and

1130
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 17: insights from that data that then changes the way you

1131
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 17: do things.

1132
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 22: And so you're right, whether it's.

1133
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 17: In the spatial planning space end land that we know

1134
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 17: that floods and doesn't flood and then is consented at

1135
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 17: local government level, frankly, whether it's things in the way

1136
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 17: that local governments respond to common systems around emergency management.

1137
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 17: You know, we were very fortunate in christ Church that

1138
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 17: christ Church and Sell and why Mack had the same

1139
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 17: system to deal with porthills fires. But actually across the

1140
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 17: country sixty two different district councils have different systems and

1141
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 17: so but in your government, I don't personally believe is

1142
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 17: very good at building our t systems. Are the right

1143
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 17: people to do that stuff, and we do too much customization.

1144
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 17: We should take off the shelf products in the digital

1145
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 17: space because it's meaning billions and billions of dollars on

1146
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 17: it projects and so we're trying to get our hands around.

1147
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 22: That as well.

1148
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: Jeez, there's a report this morning. You've set aside to it, and.

1149
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 17: I want to depress your mike.

1150
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 16: It's like wet potential.

1151
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 20: But we have to sort this mess out.

1152
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 22: And this is what we're going to do.

1153
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 17: This is a turn when I say turn around job,

1154
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 17: this is the stuff that I'm talking about. And this

1155
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 17: is why New Zealanders can't take good management for granted.

1156
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 17: You know, you can have all the slogans you want,

1157
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 17: you can talk all combined are mush as much as

1158
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 17: you like, but you've actually got to run stuff well

1159
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 17: and deliver it well.

1160
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: You've set aside two hundred and sixteen million, it's reported

1161
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: this morning contingency on these heat to tobacco products is one.

1162
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: Is that true? If you've set aside two hundred and

1163
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: sixteen million, as in the money you won't be getting

1164
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: and it helps thirty seven thousand people, that's thirty thousand

1165
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 2: dollars per person. Is that worth it?

1166
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1167
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 17: There was a few things going on there. One is

1168
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 17: lot there's a new cagory of products called heated tobacco.

1169
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 17: You know, there's a whole bunch of new innovations in

1170
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 17: that space. It's not that better products, we believe for

1171
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 17: you than people being on cigarettes. We know what vaping's

1172
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 17: done to lower smoking rates. If there's another way in

1173
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 17: which we get people away from cigarette, that's good. So

1174
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 17: we don't actually formally know what the growth of that

1175
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 17: sector will look like over the next twelve months or so.

1176
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 17: Having said that, we put the maximum contingency away in case,

1177
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 17: and what we've done is what we've done is have

1178
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 17: the excise tax on those kinds of products, so there's

1179
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 17: still excise tax being paid, but we're trying to incent

1180
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 17: people move away from cigarette so we can get our

1181
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 17: daily smoking rates down to five percent. I've gone down

1182
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 17: from eight point six to six point eight. We think

1183
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 17: we're actually on track to deliver smoke Free twenty twenty five,

1184
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 17: which is the five percent daily smoking rate, and we're

1185
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 17: going to try it for twelve months and let's.

1186
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 22: See how it goes and put a review in place.

1187
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 17: But we've put mess of money aside from a conngingency

1188
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 17: point of view, not knowing what the uptake ultimately of

1189
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 17: these products will look and feel like. Currently it's low,

1190
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 17: and then we'll review it.

1191
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 2: In twelve months, right, I got to go, But give

1192
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 2: me thirty seconds on this. The one hundred school building

1193
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 2: projects that have been put on hold, how many of

1194
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 2: them is because they're bespoke and cutting edge and expensive

1195
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: versus how many actually be mold.

1196
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 17: Big part of it, big part of it hopelessly local,

1197
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 17: lots of customization, lots of this spokeness. And what we

1198
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 17: need is stand in classrooms. You can sex it up

1199
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 17: around the outside with some better landscaping, for sure, but actually,

1200
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 17: for goodness sake, let's just do things in one way,

1201
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 17: same way, every way, standardized way, get the cost down

1202
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 17: and deliver better quality buildings across our school infrastructure.

1203
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: Share your time, Christopher Lackson, the Prime Minister, I'd recommend

1204
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: you go listen to yesterday's press conference one because it

1205
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: was became a bitch first after a while, But more importantly,

1206
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: when a prime minister talks about a grouping of people,

1207
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: i e. Health that spends thirty billion dollars a year

1208
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: and you've got people, whether on the board or the executive,

1209
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 2: that literally cannot find what's spent, where it's spent, how

1210
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: it's spent, why it's spent. This country is bugget thirteenth Way,

1211
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: Mike Costing Breakfast, genuinely feel sorry for him at times,

1212
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: and the amount of stuff he's had to deal Mike

1213
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: good and to be thank goodness, we've got national leadership

1214
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: with Christopher Lackxson at the helm. What the Blazers were

1215
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 2: Adern and Robinson's smoking so useless. This goes back to

1216
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: and it was Adern who packed a big sad when

1217
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: she couldn't get a proper connection. So this was apeck

1218
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: no technical capability to this twenty twenty one, no technical

1219
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: capability to get a Microsoft team's call up running with

1220
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: world leaders you might remember it had sort of made

1221
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: the story at the time. Caused the Dern to voice

1222
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: who had annoyance. She was pretty fed off. One source

1223
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: set a Mickey Mouse set up from m fat. So

1224
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: they start this thirty three million dollar mb cloud it project,

1225
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: which nearly tripled in costs since twenty twenty one. It's

1226
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: a failure for all of its existence. A workaround was

1227
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: eventually found after she complained. Inquiries into what had gone

1228
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: wrong led to the creation of a whole new project.

1229
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 2: People close to the resulting cloud project did not have

1230
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: much positive to say about that. Experience, one source referring

1231
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 2: to their time on nfat's cloud project as quote the

1232
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: single worst experience in my entire professional career. The report's

1233
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 2: release prompted m FAT to apologize for the mismanagement of

1234
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: public funds. It's just thirty three million dollars, don't worry

1235
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: about it. The estimate in July of twenty one nine

1236
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: point three four eight million in its earlier stages, revised

1237
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: to thirteen point five million in May of twenty two.

1238
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: By June of last year, it was estimated to be

1239
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: sixteen point seven two million. Further estimates of the project's

1240
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: budget had balloon two thirty three million dollars. So what

1241
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: started out at nine ended at thirty three before the

1242
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: whole thing. It's very inter irel and fairy, isn't it.

1243
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: And we're trying to mop all this stuff up ate

1244
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: away from it.

1245
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: The Mike Castle breakfast with Jaguar Us tomb.

1246
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 12: Wow.

1247
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: Speaking of civil defense, look that up, by the way.

1248
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: It's the same thing every time, and we always look

1249
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: at civil defense to go how come the same thing

1250
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: happens every time? And that's because the office closed because

1251
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: the government departments didn't want to share information and because

1252
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: we've been trying to fix something since twenty fourteen, and

1253
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: somebody said, yesterday Gabriel happened again. The exact same thing

1254
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: would happen, and I'm not remotely surprised. And then we

1255
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: get to the bloke who ran Hawks Bay Civil Defense,

1256
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: guy called Ian McDonald, who was on holiday when Gabriel arrived.

1257
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: The question is is it unfair? A lot of people

1258
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: I know very angsty in the Bay in terms of

1259
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: his profile and what he did or didn't do. Anyways, resigned,

1260
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 2: and I suspect from my understanding of the area that

1261
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to be pretty pleased

1262
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: about that he leaves at the end of August. If

1263
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: you're on holiday over summer, that's not unusual. We're all

1264
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: on holiday over summer. If you're on holiday over summer

1265
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: and you're the Hawks Bay simple Defense coordinator or controller

1266
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: and you see a cyclone in the Pacific, do you

1267
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: cancel your holiday and come back? His argument was when

1268
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: he left on holiday, I'm comfortable I made the call

1269
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: because that was the Wednesday before the cyclone. At that

1270
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: stage the cyclone was up in Vanauer too. Fair enough,

1271
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 2: But if you're the controller of the area, do you

1272
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 2: then go right, I'm going to need to just put

1273
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: a contingency plan in place that should something untoward happened,

1274
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: because there's plenty of talk about what was happening up

1275
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: in the Bunawertou area and it was heading our way.

1276
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: Do you put a contingency in place that says I

1277
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: might have to cut my holiday short? At what point

1278
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: do you do that? What point is it fair? Or

1279
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: if you're on leave, are you on leave and somebody

1280
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: else is taking your place and they will control it?

1281
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: Or as it gets close to the country, do you

1282
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: then go right now, this looks serious. I'm going to

1283
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: come back from my holiday and take charge of things.

1284
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 2: Or do you excuse him because it wasn't supposed to

1285
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: hit the Hawks Bay the way it was. It was

1286
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: only supposed to hit the top of the island. See

1287
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: what's right and what's wrong? And the answer is there

1288
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: is no right and there is no wrong. But people

1289
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: have decided they didn't like what he did and his

1290
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: Quidney's on his way. Kellum Hedge fourth in the Indian Necks,

1291
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: which is good because he only just started it this year,

1292
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: so I think he's going extremely well. We get an

1293
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: update for you in a couple of moments after the news,

1294
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: which is next.

1295
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues the

1296
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: Mic Hosking breakfast with Alveda, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way

1297
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: News tog said b.

1298
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: A seven parass looking border catching up with Keller Hedge

1299
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: when he was last year, he was coming off the

1300
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: back of winning the Porsche Career A Cup and being

1301
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: the Formula Regional America's champion, so he headed off to

1302
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: Indy Next the developmental series of course for indyicare halfway

1303
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: through the season. He's currently fourth and he's back for

1304
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: a mid season break, so he is, well, it's very

1305
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: good morning and good to see.

1306
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 9: You morning, Mike. Thanks for having me on.

1307
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: Are you loving it?

1308
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 9: Absolutely? As a dream come true to the racing there

1309
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 9: a part of the big IndyCar circus and going around

1310
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 9: to all these races and having a blast.

1311
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: Did you know what you were getting into versus what

1312
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 2: you're experiencing now or not?

1313
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 9: No, I was very very underprepared, coming from obviously the

1314
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 9: Porsche background, not being able to do the preseason testing

1315
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 9: at the start of the year. So I went into

1316
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 9: the first weekend just kind of like Okay, I don't

1317
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 9: really know what's to expect here, so you go out learn.

1318
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 9: Been learning consistently over the course of the year and

1319
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 9: the results have been getting better and better and better

1320
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 9: as the year's gone on.

1321
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: Fantastic. So the difference between for people who don't necessarily

1322
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: follow motor racing and a description from yourself. The difference

1323
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: between a production car, even though it's a race car

1324
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 2: as a Porsche, versus this which is custom built.

1325
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 3: What is it?

1326
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: How big? Is how big a leap?

1327
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 9: Well, it's actually surprisingly of like a very very fast car.

1328
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 9: If you put into perspective, there's only four race cars

1329
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 9: on the Earth which are actually faster than an Indie

1330
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 9: lights car, which would be probably a Daytona prototype, a

1331
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 9: Formula one car, an Indy car, and a super Formula car.

1332
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 9: Other than that, we're right there. So to get acclimated

1333
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 9: with a car like that, especially coming from a background

1334
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 9: with not a lot of single seat experience, has been

1335
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 9: quite a challenge. And then we go and race on

1336
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 9: ovals as well. So been learning that new game as well.

1337
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I was going to ask. We had Scottie Mack

1338
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 2: on the program a couple of weeks ago. I a

1339
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: hit of Indy and I watched a lot of I

1340
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: haven't watched a lot of Indie racing, but on that oval,

1341
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: the speed that you do and the line between that

1342
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: in disaster must be so fine.

1343
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, well at that speed. I haven't had any moments

1344
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 9: or anything really on the overlope. Been taking it quite cautious,

1345
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 9: quite steady, just trying to learn and grow my experience

1346
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 9: before I really start to push the limits of the

1347
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 9: car and start to get it a bit loose and

1348
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 9: really free. But I do feel that as soon as

1349
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 9: you it gets away from me slightly and that speed,

1350
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 9: there is no coming back from her. You just go

1351
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 9: in the wall. You don't really have any other option.

1352
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: Exactly what are their expectations of you? Do they say? Look,

1353
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: you know, we know you'll hit the speed, or you'll

1354
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: do this, or we think you'll come fifth, or you're

1355
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: still there? What do they tell you for the Oval?

1356
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 9: I don't really think there was any expectation or any

1357
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 9: pressure on me to perform. I think at the start

1358
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 9: of the year for the for the road courses was

1359
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 9: very similar. Just trying to go out learn and do

1360
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 9: all my learning on a race weekend was really really challenging.

1361
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 9: So to get the good results we had and then

1362
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 9: go into an oval. I actually found it easier than

1363
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 9: I did learning the road course because I didn't have

1364
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 9: any bad habits from driving other cars that I had before.

1365
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 9: So I went out. I did my first test day,

1366
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 9: which I kind of sucked, but I needed this. I

1367
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 9: needed this piece of trim on my helmet to stop

1368
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 9: my head from lifting up, so I was actually looking

1369
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 9: at the sky before I was turning in. So I

1370
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,959
Speaker 9: went to the next one with this, with this piece

1371
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 9: of trim on my helmet, and I watched the guy

1372
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 9: from last year and I said, Okay, if this guy

1373
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 9: can do it, I'll just go and do exactly that.

1374
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 9: And that's how it was.

1375
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: And there it was. What I like about is you

1376
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 2: do you do track oval and of course road. Do

1377
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: you favor one over the other? Does it matter or not?

1378
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 3: No?

1379
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 9: I didn't think so. I actually probably had some of

1380
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 9: the most fun I've ever had in a race car.

1381
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 9: Doing the Iowa race about three weeks ago was really

1382
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 9: really awesome.

1383
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 2: How sophisticated are the cars themselves in terms of tech

1384
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: and speed and all that.

1385
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 9: Quite quite sophisticated in some ways, but also in other

1386
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 9: ways not as much like the aerodynamics package is. There's

1387
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 9: really really big wings, lots of power. The floor isn't

1388
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 9: very powerful, but there's a lot of power. That's probably

1389
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 9: the biggest thing to get get used to. It's got

1390
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 9: five hundred horse and ways about six hundred kilos. It's

1391
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 9: a really really grunty car and you've got big tires.

1392
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 9: There's a lot to learn with it.

1393
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: How limited by budget are you in terms of tie

1394
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 2: usage and you know, spear parts and new engines and

1395
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: all that.

1396
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, budget's been tight for us all year. We've been

1397
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 9: really scraping the barrel trying to make our way through

1398
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 9: the season. But we've been going really well where I've

1399
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 9: been really fortunate to have the support of Honda, the

1400
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 9: Tony Quinn Foundation, Giltrap Group, and a whole bunch of

1401
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 9: other people that have come on board to help me out,

1402
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 9: especially Steve Horn as well. I know he's listening right now.

1403
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 9: So thank you to everyone that's got me here. Yeah,

1404
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 9: it's been an absolute.

1405
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: Blast, fantastic. So the team itself explain who they are,

1406
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: how good they are, and where they project themselves to be.

1407
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 9: So HMD Motorsports is the team I'm driving for. They're

1408
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 9: relatively new and into the whole motor racing scene that

1409
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 9: come on, come about about five or six years go

1410
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 9: with the with their now IndyCar driver David Malucas so

1411
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 9: his father Henry owns it owns the team gave them

1412
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 9: a little bit of money to start up, and ever

1413
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 9: since then, the guys at the top, Mike Marini, Henry

1414
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 9: aj and Luke Valley, they've all put together a really

1415
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 9: good package, got a big new shop and ended up

1416
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 9: with ten cars in Indie.

1417
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 2: Next Wow, So where do you are you with the team?

1418
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: Do you stay with the team or you don't know?

1419
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: Where do they go next year? They don't know? Is

1420
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: there a plan?

1421
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 22: Yeah?

1422
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 9: So I guess their their goal is to get an

1423
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 9: IndyCar team. For me, like they they really want an

1424
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 9: IndyCar team. They've got the people to do it. They've

1425
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 9: got the expertise, they've got the brains to do it,

1426
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 9: and they've got the facility to do it as well.

1427
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 9: And I do think that should they get an opportunity

1428
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 9: to go IndyCar racing, they'd be able to do do

1429
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 9: really great things.

1430
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: Right currently, your fourth we'll have a look at some

1431
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: of your results and see where you're going for the

1432
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: rest of the season. In the moment, Kelvim Hetret's thirteen

1433
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 2: past eight.

1434
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 3: The Mike Hosking breakfast a.

1435
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 2: Sixteen past day Killum here is with a season the

1436
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: break He's got four races to go. You've done a

1437
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: bunch of races you've done. I don't want to dwell

1438
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 2: on this, but you've come fourth a lot.

1439
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, tell me.

1440
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: About it is I mean, obviously fourth is better than fifth,

1441
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: but it's not as good as third.

1442
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 3: Is it?

1443
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: Like the podium?

1444
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 19: No.

1445
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 9: I had a little taste of the podium at Detroit

1446
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 9: and it wasn't enough. I want more than that. I'm

1447
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 9: really not content with coming third and fourth. For me,

1448
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 9: the goal is to go out there and be fighting

1449
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 9: for wins.

1450
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 2: How much of it is on the day luck. So

1451
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 2: I look at some of your results, So you're fourth overall,

1452
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to be pleased with that for

1453
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: a start.

1454
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's kind of exactly where I expected

1455
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 9: myself to be. I didn't expect to be fighting for

1456
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 9: the championship. I was an experience compared to the guys

1457
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 9: ahead of me, had a lot to learn, had a

1458
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 9: lot to develop, both on and off the track. But fourth,

1459
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 9: I'm relatively pleased.

1460
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: With how many people that you race have raced there before.

1461
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: Therefore are veterans, if you like business, guys like you

1462
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 2: were in their first season.

1463
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 9: So there's there's quite a lot of rookies in the

1464
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 9: in the championship this year, but a lot of them

1465
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 9: have a lot more experience than a single seedar so

1466
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 9: they have the full what was called the Road to

1467
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 9: Indie program which is now USF Pro Championships, which young

1468
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 9: limb Skeets and a couple other Kibi guys have come through,

1469
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,479
Speaker 9: so that program can last four or five or six years.

1470
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 9: Even so, some of the guys might be coming into

1471
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 9: their first Indie next season, but have raced in this

1472
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 9: paddock and on these tracks four or five years already.

1473
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 9: So to come in and try and catch up my

1474
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 9: learning has been really difficult.

1475
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 2: Okay, four races remain in the season for you. Can

1476
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 2: you do much with your fourth place with good results

1477
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: in those four races?

1478
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 9: I think so, I think with if the overs continue

1479
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 9: to go the way they do, I'd really like to

1480
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 9: put some pressure on Collette and third, he's he's quite

1481
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 9: a fair few points ahead of me. But if I

1482
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 9: can put some pressure on him. Towards the end of

1483
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 9: the year, maybe I'll be able to close that gap

1484
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:11,919
Speaker 9: down and get the Rookie of the Year.

1485
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: But the gap to the.

1486
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 9: Other cars behind me is fairly comfortable. So the goal

1487
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 9: is to definitely consolidate fourth and try and put some

1488
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 9: pressure on those guys in front.

1489
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 2: What about the other guys Scotty Mack and Dixon and

1490
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: Armstrong and I mean it's the paddock is festooned with

1491
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 2: Keiweis these days, isn't it. Do you run into them

1492
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: a lot or not?

1493
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 9: You see Key, He's everywhere in this paddock, So it's

1494
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 9: quite cool to go around and rub shoulders with guys

1495
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 9: that are from where I'm from and have been there

1496
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 9: for ten twenty years.

1497
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: I saw on a documentary not so long ago. I

1498
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 2: can't remember where, but it was on Indy and the

1499
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 2: number of New Zealanders behind the scenes that we wouldn't

1500
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: realize aren't using it. It's extraordinary.

1501
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 9: How many news not just drivers, pitt crew engineers, people

1502
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 9: that are living in Indy who did some indiecar stuff

1503
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 9: and started up a life there and never came back

1504
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 9: in the end.

1505
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 2: Fantastic. So do you write they are they helpful as

1506
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: what I'm asking you know, Dixon, Scottie, Mac and stuff.

1507
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 9: I haven't really asked too much advice from any of them.

1508
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 9: I tell a funny story like I was telling you

1509
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 9: just before I met my racing one of my racing

1510
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 9: heroes Scott Dixon and im Andy's while I was in

1511
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 9: the ice bath at Pittford Training, which is where a

1512
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 9: lot of the Indy Cars and Indy Next guys train.

1513
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 9: So it's cool to be in there doing similar all

1514
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 9: the same workouts as they are and been able to

1515
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 9: benchmark myself against them.

1516
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 2: Fantastic that you never get used to an ice bath,

1517
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 2: do you?

1518
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 9: No, never gets better, That's so true.

1519
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 2: So you're not sure you finish off the season, you're

1520
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: not sure what next season holds for you yet, or

1521
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 2: you do.

1522
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: Well.

1523
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 9: For me, the goal is to try and come back

1524
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 9: to Indy Next and race with HMD Motorsports again. For me,

1525
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 9: that that's a big thing is to be able to

1526
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 9: come back in year two. Not a lot of guys

1527
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 9: have managed to come through in year one and actually

1528
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 9: put together a championship run, and for me it was

1529
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 9: it was no different. I had a lot to learn,

1530
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 9: a lot to develop or the testing that I missed

1531
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 9: at the start of the year. I'll be able to

1532
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 9: build on my season, hopefully get a slightly better preseason

1533
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 9: and come out swinging next year.

1534
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 2: Because that was it was append of scientist. Was it

1535
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 2: was appendix?

1536
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 19: Was it?

1537
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1538
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, his appendix and.

1539
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: That that that caused your problems. Did you see the

1540
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 2: F one yesterday? George Russell? Tell me he got he

1541
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 2: got the position taken away. He won the race, right, yeah,

1542
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 2: he got the position taken away because the car came

1543
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: in underweight. Put yourself in that position for a moment.

1544
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 2: You've just won the race. It's the greatest race of

1545
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: your life. You've just won it. They weighed the car

1546
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: and it's underweight. What do you do?

1547
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 9: Not a lot you can do.

1548
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 2: I'd pack a sad I.

1549
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 9: Would I would be pretty pretty grumpy, but it is.

1550
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 9: There's nothing really you can do.

1551
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 2: It is what it istimes.

1552
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 9: That's just how it is.

1553
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: Good luck with the final four races. You love America.

1554
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 2: By the way, you're enjoying America.

1555
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 9: America has been a blast. You get to see so

1556
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 9: much stuff that you wouldn't be able to see back

1557
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 9: home in New Zealand. It's so different. But I think

1558
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 9: the first time I saw a beach in the last

1559
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 9: three months was in New Zealand. Here so as Vera

1560
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 9: Clyde and adjustment, but loving it over there, love in

1561
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 9: the place, love in the racing.

1562
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: Good well, lovely to catch up with your good luck

1563
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 2: for the rest of the season. We'll get you in

1564
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 2: again soon, Jess. Make good to see Kellum Hedge. It's

1565
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: a twenty one the mic Hosking Breakfast.

1566
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 3: It's with Bailey's Real Estate News Talk Sippy.

1567
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: Now, if you're in business, you know it's all about

1568
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 2: the money and if customers can't find you, you are

1569
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: not making money. So this is where Speedy Signs come in.

1570
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 2: They're in the business of helping customers find you with clear,

1571
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 2: standout signage and they will basically signage you can't miss

1572
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Speaker 2: and if they miss it, you miss out on business,

1573
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 2: which is not what business is all about. So they

1574
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 2: take care of everything basically from advice on the type

1575
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Speaker 2: of signage, to design, to artwork to installation. If you're replacing,

1576
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Speaker 2: by the way old signage with new, they'll get that

1577
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Speaker 2: all done at once so your business won't be left

1578
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Speaker 2: beer and empty of custom. Speedy Signs also are the

1579
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: complete sign experts, with nearly thirty locations around the country

1580
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 2: over twenty five years experience behind them. They've outfitted the cafes,

1581
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Speaker 2: the shops, the bathroom, plumbing centers all over the country

1582
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: and make your business visible. Basically, they've helped keep businesses

1583
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Speaker 2: visible at events and promotions. They even keep them running

1584
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Speaker 2: on the road with vehicle wraps. They do the graphics

1585
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Speaker 2: there as well, So keep your business running with signage

1586
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Speaker 2: from Speedy Signs. They do it all. Oh eight hundred speedy,

1587
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Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred speedy. If you want to see a

1588
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Speaker 2: bit of the work and what they're all about, go

1589
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Speaker 2: to Speedy Signs. That's one word, Speedy Signs, dot co,

1590
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Speaker 2: dot m ZSKI. Greaties, good guys. Nickellum here. I hope

1591
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 2: he does well for the rest of the season. Living

1592
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 2: your dream getting out in newse New Zealander is getting

1593
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 2: out in the world and living their dream. You can't

1594
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: beat it. The latest three year cruise is running two

1595
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: months late. This is a model that hasn't worked. So

1596
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 2: these are the cruise ships they've launched. Somebody came up

1597
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 2: with an idea a number of years ago and they said,

1598
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 2: what do we put a boat out on the water

1599
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 2: and people will buy it and they'll basically spend the

1600
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 2: rest of their lives just going run around the world.

1601
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,600
Speaker 21: I blew all my savings on that lifetime one, and

1602
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 21: that never happened exactly, and I've just saved enough for

1603
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 21: this three year one.

1604
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 2: Well the three year ones two months late. But they

1605
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 2: do think they will go by the end of this month,

1606
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 2: as in a couple of days time. This isn't Belfast.

1607
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 2: But here's my problem. It's called First of all, it's

1608
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 2: called Villavilleces, so small clue anyone who goes and calls

1609
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 2: them villavis watch out.

1610
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 21: For did they come up with that name?

1611
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:33,959
Speaker 2: It happier stuck in Belfast. Here's my problem with these cruises.

1612
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: The boat looks crap. It's not one of those you know,

1613
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 2: the modern cruise ship that you whether you like cruising

1614
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 2: or not. I hate cruising. But if you look at

1615
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 2: the modern cruise ship, it's gargantuan. It looks like a

1616
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 2: floating city. There are thousands of people on board, there

1617
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: are thousands of stuff. There are swimming pools and bars

1618
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 2: and casinos and theaters, and you look like you could

1619
01:13:55,920 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 2: potentially entertain yourself literally forever. But this one I'm looking

1620
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 2: at Villa Via Residences, looks a lot like the inter

1621
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 2: island theory, and it looks like after about a week

1622
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 2: to a week and a half you'd go, there's not

1623
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: much else to do on this boat, and I'm stuck

1624
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 2: here for another two years and eleven months better, I

1625
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 2: think is part of the problem. The model's wrong news

1626
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: for you. In a couple of moments. Then we will

1627
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: get into Kay and Rod Little.

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01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: You're Trusted Home the News for Entertainments Opinion and Mike

1629
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar, The Art of Performance News Talks.

1630
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 2: He'd be twenty three minutes away from nine, the the

1631
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 2: big talking point in Britain overnight as there stabbing. We'll

1632
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 2: get to rodin just a couple of moments with some

1633
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: of the final details. Here's a witness to it though.

1634
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 8: Hi, John, I'm any girls were left in that building

1635
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 8: he was still in and I thought, I'm just gonna

1636
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 8: kill him. All a nightmare, the biggest horrific thing you

1637
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 8: could have a witness on your life, seeing that the

1638
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 8: kids like that, and the parents come in and cry

1639
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 8: and scream, and.

1640
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 2: So to de nine injured. Serena Kennedy is with the

1641
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 2: Merseyside Police.

1642
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 23: My offices were called to reports of a stabbing at

1643
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 23: eleven forty seven this morning and at address in Southport.

1644
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 23: When they arrived, they were shocked to find that multiple people,

1645
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 23: many of whom were children, had been subjected to a

1646
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 23: ferocious attack and had suffered serious injuries. It is understood

1647
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 23: that the children were attending a Taylor Swift event at

1648
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 23: a dance school when the offender, armed with a knife,

1649
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 23: walked into the premises and started to attack inside.

1650
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 15: International correspondence with Insurn Eye Insurance, Peace of mind for

1651
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 15: New Zealand business.

1652
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 2: Here's twenty two minutes A wife and mine. Let's get

1653
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 2: a brook Rod morning to you.

1654
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 12: Yeah, good morning tune.

1655
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 2: Give us the update on the stabbing. I mean, I

1656
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 2: know they've got a seventeen year old.

1657
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 12: Do we have any sort of motive love whatsoever? So

1658
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 12: far need to say, rumors are flying around on social media. Lastly,

1659
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,879
Speaker 12: because has been given. No background has been given about

1660
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 12: the seventeen year old in question, and that always gets

1661
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 12: tongues wagging. That being said, the last there was an

1662
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 12: incident a little bit like this, which was a couple

1663
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,560
Speaker 12: of weeks ago, though by no means as serious as this.

1664
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 12: It turned out that it was a member of the

1665
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 12: Roma community and that was in Leeds this time. It's

1666
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 12: difficult to know. These were kids. I mean they weren't teenagers.

1667
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 12: They were six to ten year olds. And two of

1668
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 12: them are dead, nine of them are injured, six are

1669
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 12: in a critical condition. The police say it was a

1670
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 12: ferocious attack. There was a Taylor Swift Them dance workshop

1671
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 12: in Southport, which is a posh suburb of Liverpool, and

1672
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 12: no indication whatsoever as to what the motive might have been.

1673
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 12: A couple of parents who were there watching their kids

1674
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 12: are also injured, and they're also in hospital. It's just

1675
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 12: a grotesque and horrible event, but one which we're kind

1676
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 12: of becoming increasingly used to in this country, much as

1677
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 12: the Americans became the houstern in their country. Of course.

1678
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's shocking. Rachel reeves the twenty eight and twenty

1679
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 2: eight billion dollars in terms of a whole how much

1680
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 2: Just let me ask you this before we get to

1681
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 2: the crunchy of the numbers. How much of this beck

1682
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 2: and forward is going on between labor. Oh my god,

1683
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how bad it was. Those Tories are dreadful.

1684
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 2: They've lift us as a disaster and we're going to

1685
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 2: have to do something. At how much of BET's going on, Well.

1686
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 12: Quite a lot of it. It's a little bit cheap.

1687
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 12: Despite the extraordinary good will with which I think most

1688
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 12: people currently need the present government, the new government, they

1689
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 12: do have a tailwind. They have a lot of kind

1690
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 12: of relief that we're out of that eternal circle of

1691
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 12: competence with the Tories. And I suppose I think they

1692
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 12: get away with it thinking that well, yes, that's exactly

1693
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 12: what we'd expect the Tories to have done. I'm not

1694
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 12: so sure about this, and I think she may be

1695
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 12: caught out at some point by the by the various

1696
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 12: budget overseers and so on, because I think there is

1697
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 12: a there is a problem lead to blead the Tories

1698
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 12: for announcing schemes and basically cutting and running. That being said,

1699
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 12: it's pretty much with one exception a Tory budget which

1700
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 12: is an It is quite remarkable that it took a

1701
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 12: labor government which soon they mean cuts the winter fuel

1702
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 12: payments for the elderly. That is quite remarkable and it

1703
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 12: shows firstly how far which has a fiscal levers and

1704
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 12: technically that they feel they can take these what will

1705
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 12: be very very unpleasant decisions and very unpopular decisions and

1706
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 12: get away with it because it got five more years

1707
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 12: to go and a majority of you know, two hundred

1708
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 12: or whatever. So I think there's a will. What will

1709
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 12: might get more hackles risen. It's the twenty two percent

1710
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 12: pay rise to young doctors. It was obviously crucial for

1711
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 12: this Lib government, but they weren't going to suffer the

1712
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 12: same continual strikes and threats of strikes from public sector workers.

1713
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 12: And don't forget it was public sector workers who voted

1714
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,520
Speaker 12: labor into power. They are the party of public sector workers,

1715
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 12: middle class public sector workers. It's no longer anything to

1716
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 12: do with red walls or miners or people in men's stuff.

1717
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 12: It's about doctors, teachers and so on, and they are

1718
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 12: obviously going to be the focus of the government's large

1719
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 12: deaths over the next couple of years. Twenty two percent

1720
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 12: for the doctors. They'd asked for thirty odd twenty two

1721
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 12: percent since to me, very.

1722
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: Generous, You reckon, you don't think there's going to be

1723
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 2: a domino effective he got twenty two. I want twenty

1724
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: two in the make next to me once twenty two

1725
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 2: as well, and so we go.

1726
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 12: I think there's bound to be some sort of domino effect,

1727
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 12: bound to be not so much around the twenty two

1728
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Speaker 12: percent level, because the doctors really were out on a

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01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 12: limb asking for that, but there will be nurses, teachers

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01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 12: and all the care workers. Public sector workers will be

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01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 12: asking for pay increases which are probably rather more than

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Speaker 12: they would have expected to get. Frankly, they will obviously

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01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 12: ask for more money as a consequence of it. And

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01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 12: you know, the government is that it be known the

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01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 12: public sector workers are going to see a rise, so

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01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 12: it's a bonus for them. Meanwhile, the rest of the

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01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 12: country looks on a little warily, given that public sector

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01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 12: wages have risen far more quickly than private sector wages

1739
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 12: over the last ten years, and indeed the balance between

1740
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 12: the public sector and the private sector is tilted hugely

1741
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 12: in favor of the private sector. The public sector runner.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, mate, We'll see you Thursday.

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Speaker 13: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Rod a little out of Britain. Just update you on

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01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 2: the Tory leadership race. Pretty Betels and mel Strides. And

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01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: since we last talked about it last Thursday, so pretty

1747
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 2: Betels and mel Strides Injenrick Robert, Jenrick Tutenhat who is

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01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 2: one of Rod's mates, and James Cleverly, they're all in

1749
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 2: and Kemy bad Knock can add her name to that

1750
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 2: particular list. And also, since we last talked about it

1751
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: last week, Eleanard Morgan is the new Welsh Leader. You

1752
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 2: remember the old Welsh Leader guy called Gething, who Rod

1753
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 2: described as completely and utterly useless, not to mention compromise

1754
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 2: in a number of different areas. He quit after about

1755
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: three and a half minutes in the job. So this

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01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 2: woman Morgan's got the new job. She's the Welsh Leader

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01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 2: and she first thing she did was apologize to the

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01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: Welsh people. We have not made a good fist of

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01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 2: things in the past few weeks and the Welsh people

1760
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 2: are owed an apology and she gave one sixteen to

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01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 2: two THESS certain away from nine. Couple of questions for you.

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01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 2: So the news is running the story this morning from

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01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 2: the Financial Umberdsmen are the Financial Services Complaints, which is

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01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 2: a service of the Armbudsman Complaints and Financial Services. The

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01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 2: whole idea is apparently times are tied economically, therefore people

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01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: complain more. In theory makes sense, but their complaints are

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01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: only up six percent. How many complaints a year do

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01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 2: they receive? The answer is fourteen hundred and twenty six.

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01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: Not many complaints. You think about how many times we

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01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 2: do something financial. I mean we do something financial every

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01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 2: single day. Every single one of us does something financially

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01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: every single day. So to cumulatively come up with one

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01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: four hundred and twenty six complaints in the year is

1774
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 2: hardly a big deal, is it. New disputes are up

1775
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: ten percent to three hundred and fifty nine. It's less

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01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 2: than one a day. So in other words, I don't

1777
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 2: think there's actually a problem. Largest proportion of complaints were

1778
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: about consumer credit products, credit cards, and mortgage lines, so

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01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm just not sure how busy they army is probably

1780
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 2: good to have one, and when things go seriously wrong,

1781
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 2: they can look into it and do something about it,

1782
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 2: I guess, but I wouldn't have thought it's actually a

1783
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 2: major story. Then we come to Fletchers, and Andrew alerted

1784
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 2: us calliher money earlier on alert at us and am

1785
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 2: I being unfair? So Fletcher Building, one of the biggest

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01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 2: companies in the country, have got problem with their cement

1787
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 2: at the byment and they went to the market yesterday

1788
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 2: and they said, look, we're going to be hit by

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01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 2: between somewhere between ten and thirty million bucks this year.

1790
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 2: Why moving cement around the country is turning out to

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01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 2: be a problem. They've got a thing called the marine

1792
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 2: vessel Alteriro a chief MBAC. It's owned and operated by

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01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 2: a third party provider. That in itself I would have

1794
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,600
Speaker 2: thought it's a bit of a problem. It's got mechanical problems,

1795
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 2: it's stuck in Northport and they don't know when it's

1796
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 2: going to be fixed. So your ability to move one

1797
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: of your products around the country is now sort of

1798
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 2: stuck because somebody you pay to do something isn't doing

1799
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 2: it now. Is that, in and of itself a bit

1800
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 2: of an issue you might want to think about. They're

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01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 2: thinking about other things apart from not knowing how long

1802
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 2: it's going to take to fix. They're looking at greater

1803
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 2: use of rail and roads you reckon as well as

1804
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 2: coastal barging you reckon. Don't they have a backup plan?

1805
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 2: Doesn't a large company? Am I just naive if I

1806
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: was running a large company and one of the key

1807
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 2: things involved in the running of that company was the

1808
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 2: movement of a certain product, in this case, cement. Would

1809
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 2: I not have some sort of contingency plan that should

1810
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 2: that contractor ring me up one day and go, hey, Mike,

1811
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 2: bit of a problem with the old movement here, I'd

1812
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 2: have a plan. I'd go, well, first of all, you're sacked.

1813
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: Second of all, here's my contingency plan, or here's where

1814
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm going and how I'm doing it, and here's what

1815
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,839
Speaker 2: I've thought of also looking at getting alternative cement supplies

1816
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 2: from local or foreign producers, as well as looking for

1817
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 2: a replacement ship, in other words, doing it themselves. I

1818
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 2: assume that means does that just strike you as just

1819
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 2: a little bit Jerry manned? Or as I say, am

1820
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: I being unfair? Nine away from thee.

1821
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities News,

1822
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: togsad be.

1823
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 2: Look, here's the reality when it comes to business funding.

1824
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: Other big banks hold all the cards. Of course, they

1825
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: don't blink at charging hefty interest rates, and the processes

1826
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 2: can leave you hanging for months. But now there's a

1827
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 2: game changer on the scene, the game changer taxi. It

1828
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: allows you to decline the bank with smarter business funding.

1829
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: So whether it's another digger for your fleet, or you

1830
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: just need to survive till twenty five. Taxi can help

1831
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 2: fund your business. So how do they do that? Here's

1832
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,799
Speaker 2: the question. How do they do that? Well? Taxi allows

1833
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,919
Speaker 2: you to use your provisional tax to access seriously affordable

1834
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 2: working capital. So you're essentially borrowing against tax that you've

1835
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 2: already paid, but at half the interest rates of the

1836
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 2: big banks. That's right, about half the rate of the

1837
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 2: big banks. Now you don't have to be Warren Buffett

1838
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 2: to work out that actually makes a bit of sense.

1839
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: So pay your provisional tax through taxi by the twenty

1840
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 2: eighth of August and get ready to grow your business

1841
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 2: the smart way. Here's you go. Here's where you go

1842
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 2: for all the details. Go taxi dot co dot NZ,

1843
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 2: Go taxi dot co dot n Z. Pasking Mike, you're

1844
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 2: a hard man. I think that's the quote of the day.

1845
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: Sack them. NA probably wouldn't sack them. It's probably a

1846
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 2: contact that prevents them from sacking them.

1847
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 22: Mike.

1848
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: You might even think a third party contract would have

1849
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 2: planned b. That's not a bad point. By scoring a

1850
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: third party, Mike transport supply, they're more likely to say

1851
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 2: thirty million every year, so one of twenty year problem.

1852
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: I get what you're trying to say, which then brings

1853
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: me to the other Fletcher's side of the story. Fletcher Building,

1854
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 2: the subsidiary Fletcher Construction, is suing the two waterproofers. This

1855
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 2: is the convention center. God, it will be amazing when

1856
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 2: the convention center is open. I mean it's been I

1857
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 2: think they started the convention Center in Auckland about the

1858
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 2: same time as they started the coliseum in Rome. I

1859
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 2: think it was about the same day or certainly within

1860
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 2: the same way.

1861
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 21: Quite a long time after they started the CURL.

1862
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, quit quite a long time after the CRL goes

1863
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:29,600
Speaker 2: back to BC. No, well back before BC anyway. So

1864
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 2: they've got the convention Center in Auckland. So there's going

1865
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 2: to be a fourteen week trial. They're chasing three hundred

1866
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: and twenty one million dollars. There's a couple of companies involved.

1867
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 2: This is more contracting subcontracting. There's a company called MPM Waterproofing,

1868
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: and there's a company called JEL Waterproofing, and so they

1869
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 2: hired MPM, but then MPM went and hired JL and

1870
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 2: then when they went to sue them, the two companies went, oh,

1871
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 2: what we needed two different trials, and so the judge

1872
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 2: had a look at that when and I think we

1873
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 2: need two different trials, Thanks very much.

1874
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1875
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 2: So fourteen weeks of this and the convention, it's just like, geez,

1876
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 2: how complicated do you want to make life? Get yourself

1877
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 2: a breakfast show? For God's sake, All you gotta do

1878
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 2: is tell the time five minutes away from nine trending.

1879
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:12,560
Speaker 15: Now we have Gills Warehouse, stop paying too much.

1880
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,560
Speaker 2: Now, Amazon, they're back with another crack at Lord of

1881
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: the Rings The Rings of Power, which is the most

1882
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 2: expensive television show ever. Season one bark like a dark

1883
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: hou Only thirty seven percent of people who started the

1884
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: show ended up finishing it. What's the number for it?

1885
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 2: This show? It's ninety is still ninety eight plus per morning?

1886
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, I think it was. Last time I checked,

1887
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 2: it was ninety eight point ninety seven percent of people

1888
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 2: who start the show at six finishes at nine. You're

1889
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 2: there for the long haul. I Love You to Death

1890
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 2: of You Lot Season one flop, complete flop, but they're

1891
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 2: still spending another four hundred and eighty million dollars on

1892
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:44,559
Speaker 2: season two.

1893
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 11: I have walked across mountains and deserts.

1894
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 10: To help my friend find his destiny. One of the

1895
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 10: feet of the world may depend on.

1896
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 3: Is it my task to stop the fire?

1897
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 24: To my task to face so long, to try and

1898
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 24: cheat to death, my tea to an even better catastasy.

1899
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 3: Father, take off the ring.

1900
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 9: There are always so who guys off.

1901
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 3: For shame. You will give me the night.

1902
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 2: That's what four hundred and eighty million dollars sounds like.

1903
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 2: Twenty ninth of August, season two, that was the one

1904
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 2: that was pulled out of this country. Remember when they

1905
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 2: decided to up one day and just leave and they

1906
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:50,440
Speaker 2: went off to they were of about that probably rubbish.

1907
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 2: Right up, You can leave now because this last couple

1908
01:28:55,520 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 2: of seconds isn't that good? Back tomorrow morning at six days.

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