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Speaker 3: I'm Jason Show producers Andy McDonald. We're talking sport until three.

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Speaker 3: The big story of the week was one of the

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Speaker 3: biggest of the year. Actually, Kiwi Lilliam Lawson will be

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Speaker 3: Formula One season. The team officially confirmed late on Thursday night,

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Speaker 3: New Zealand time that Liam Lawson is going to partner

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Speaker 3: four time defending world champion Max Verstappa next year. They

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Speaker 3: came less than twenty four hours after Red Bull announced

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Speaker 3: they were parting ways with Mexican driver Sergio Perez. Going

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Speaker 3: to dig down into this after one o'clock with Eric Thompson.

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Speaker 3: I'd be keen to hear from you as well, motorsport

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Speaker 3: fans on just how big how significant this is. First

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Speaker 3: up today, though, I would like to settle an ongoing

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Speaker 3: debate with your help. Where is New Zealand's home of cricket?

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Speaker 3: For many years, the Basin Reserve has claimed that Mantle

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Speaker 3: based largely on the history of the ground and the

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Speaker 3: many iconic cricketing feats that have happened there. But in

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Speaker 3: recent times Hagley Oval has started to feature a bit

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Speaker 3: more prominently in this conversation. So where is New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: home of cricket and which are the grounds that are

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Speaker 3: that and three time Paralympic medalist for New Zealand Dave

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Speaker 3: is from Wayno in the Sports News International Cricket White

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Speaker 3: Firm's Australia base in Reserve of Cricket. This is game

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Speaker 3: two of the fifty over Rose Bowl series after the

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Speaker 3: first match was washed out on Thursday. When going just

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Speaker 3: over an hour, Sophi Devine won the toss in Australia

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Speaker 3: in there eighty one for two and the seventeenth over

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Speaker 3: under five's there. Batting first against New Zealand at the

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Speaker 3: Basin Lines open and operational right across the afternoon. Oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty of courses our number

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Speaker 3: it never changes. Nine two nine two for text messages

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Speaker 3: Coming up ten and a half past midday.

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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting world.

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Speaker 3: News Talks NB. All right, so where is New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: home of cricket? Craig coming has played at the mall,

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Speaker 3: Craig get I mate, thanks for johning us. Can we

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Speaker 4: So that was the best part of the Basement Reserve.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say this tongue in cheek, piney, and

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Speaker 4: Absolutely beautiful ground done, an amazing job again, a wonderful

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Speaker 3: And I saw the England team took scooters to the ground.

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Speaker 3: I mean, whereas the Basemin Reserves basically a big roundabout

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Speaker 4: But I was dressed in a suit and if I

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Speaker 3: All right, So we've had the basin Hagley, you alluded

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Speaker 4: They have set it up beautifully, car parking right beside

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Speaker 5: Always get that.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: Well, I staid it there in a one day game

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Speaker 3: Indeed, you've given Alison there's plenty of food for thought.

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Speaker 3: The lines will be lighting up very shortly, Craig.

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Speaker 7: And I apologize.

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Speaker 4: I just said I've got some great memories of playing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure you have, but well we're about

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Speaker 3: the best with that. Thanks for your contributions across the year.

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Speaker 4: Likewise, Piny, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: No, thank you, Craig. Craig coming there with great analysis

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Speaker 3: to say the basin. Apart from all the cricketing history

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Speaker 3: that I mentioned, I love the fact you can walk

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Speaker 3: around the ground at your leisure. You can pop in

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Speaker 3: and visit the Cricket Museum, lots of different places to

434
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Speaker 3: take in the action. The ravan stands gives you a

435
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Speaker 3: view right down the ground and then in the lunch

436
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Speaker 3: break you go on the grass and play a bit

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Speaker 3: of backyard cricket. Your thoughts and views are needed here

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Speaker 3: as we conduct our research into New Zealand's home of cricket.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty would love to get your

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Speaker 3: view on this and also some of the grounds you've

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Speaker 3: been to that you've really enjoyed for whatever reason. Oh

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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty, Chris, thanks for holding How

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Speaker 3: are you good?

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Speaker 12: Funny look, First of all, I've been thinking I'd love

446
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Speaker 12: to meet you, and I was going to get hold

447
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Speaker 12: of you and have a baby in the Cambridge on

448
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Speaker 12: either the fourth or fifth day the basin, but there

449
00:20:01,707 --> 00:20:02,867
Speaker 12: wasn't any well.

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Speaker 3: We could have had the whole day there unencumbered, Chris,

451
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Speaker 3: we wouldn't have had to worry about the cricket.

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Speaker 12: Now we'll make it. We'll make it next season. But listen,

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Speaker 12: I enjoyed. Also, just before before I get onto Craig

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Speaker 12: Cummings thing, I just like to say, Look, I've been

455
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Speaker 12: listening to Talk Sport on Zed Beasts Steakers days in

456
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Speaker 12: the late seventies and without doubt you are the best

457
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Speaker 12: sports host on the station over the last four to

458
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Speaker 12: five decades.

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Speaker 3: Chris. That is very kind, very very kind of you.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you're angling for me to shout the

461
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Speaker 3: first beat at the Cambridge Hotel, a place I know

462
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Speaker 3: well as you do. But that's very kind of you

463
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Speaker 3: to say. Thank you. Now, now let's talk about the

464
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Speaker 3: home of cricket. I know you're going to say the basin,

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Speaker 3: but what else.

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Speaker 12: No, I'm not going to say the base in the

467
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Speaker 12: first one. Craig Cummings comments, I went to Real Boys before,

468
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Speaker 12: well before him. He's left out one person of my classmate,

469
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Speaker 12: the great Dick Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Yes, true, true, he was Terrorboys as well.

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Speaker 12: Yes he beat me on the line of the mile

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Speaker 12: Walk in sixty six. I never made the.

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Speaker 3: Story and he mean, look at what they went on

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Speaker 3: to do, Chris, and.

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Speaker 12: I'll tell you about the Rectory. The great br Taylor

476
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Speaker 12: took ten wickets for the first eleven there against the

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Speaker 12: club he eventually went to when he left school. He

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Speaker 12: took ten wickets.

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Speaker 3: In amazing is that Bruce Taylor? He got a one

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Speaker 3: hundred and a five for didn't he in the same

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Speaker 3: Test match?

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Speaker 12: Yeah? On debut?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 9: Yes, yeah.

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Speaker 12: So look, can I say I probably watched most of

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Speaker 12: my Test cricket at the basin Eden Park Lancaster Park

487
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Speaker 12: for the birthquake in the eighties. The best atmosphere was

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Speaker 12: Lancaster Park and Eden Park, no doubt about it. And

489
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Speaker 12: then I was still in the South Island when Hagley

490
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Speaker 12: came along. Now, the problem problem with can Tabrince is

491
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Speaker 12: they hadn't seen any Test cricket for about eight or

492
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Speaker 12: nine years, so it's taken a while to get going.

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Speaker 12: But Hagley is a true English ground and cricket did

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Speaker 12: start there in eighteen sixty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, look I must have met and I can't

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Speaker 3: because I can't offer a first hand experience. It is

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Speaker 3: to my deep regret that I've never watched the game

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Speaker 3: of cricket at Hagley Oval. I have at Lancaster Park,

499
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Speaker 3: but I've never watched the game of cricket at Hadley Over.

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Speaker 3: I feels like something I need to do so that

501
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Speaker 3: I can actually comment intelligently about the place.

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Speaker 12: Yes, but but I agree with you. Look the base

503
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Speaker 12: and the base has got the best atmosphere totally. I'm

504
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Speaker 12: an I'm one hundred percent with you there, Hagley Path

505
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Speaker 12: more relaxed. I enjoy University Oval and dnedin for a test.

506
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Speaker 12: I've been a couple there. It's a nice ground send

507
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Speaker 12: parks we're gifted with with with grounds and actually I

508
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Speaker 12: saw an artificial test in nineteen sixty seven at pook

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Speaker 12: A cur A Park against Australia and enjoyed book A Park.

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Speaker 3: Well you look at it on TV cres and it

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Speaker 3: just looks amazing, amazing place to watch the game, that

512
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Speaker 3: sort of you know that that tiered seating. The boundaries

513
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Speaker 3: are so short as well, aren't they. It's you know,

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Speaker 3: it's it's a better delight. But yeah, another great place

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Speaker 3: to watch Chris, Good to you, to you mate, wee

516
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Speaker 3: we you can sort out there beer in the new year.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we live in the same city. It can't

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Speaker 3: be there, ad and we both know with the Cambridge hotelers.

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Speaker 3: Thanks mate, Merry Christmas. I appreciate your call. Twelve thirty

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Neil, Hi.

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Speaker 5: Mate, Hey, how you doing?

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Speaker 13: Piny all right?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well, Neil, very well mate.

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Speaker 13: God just want me to have a chat about cricket grounds.

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Speaker 13: I've watched cricket at every single Test venue in the UK,

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Speaker 13: Mount Munganuey and Hagley Oval, and I would not swap

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Speaker 13: a single one of them for the Base Reserve.

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Speaker 3: Go on, Neil, go on?

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Speaker 5: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: So you how often have you watched matches at the

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Speaker 3: Basin Reserve? Quite often?

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Speaker 13: Well, I've been here for ten years and i've been

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Speaker 13: I've been quite a bit. Absolutely, It's not an atmosphere

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Speaker 13: like you like I say, I've watched cricket at every

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Speaker 13: single Test venue in the UK, Mount Munginguey and Hagley.

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Speaker 13: Not a patch on the Basin Reserve.

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Speaker 12: Mate.

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Speaker 3: Where do you normally sit, Neil when you watch a

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Speaker 3: game of cricket at the basin.

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Speaker 13: Normally sets on the wooden bleachers in front of the museum.

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Speaker 3: Yep, got yep, yep. No, good good view there, good

542
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Speaker 3: view there. Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 14: No.

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Speaker 3: And so what's your what what is good in the UK?

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Speaker 3: What's you?

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Speaker 5: I mean?

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Speaker 3: Obviously? Lords?

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Speaker 5: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Is that a good place to watch a game of cricket?

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Speaker 13: Lords?

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Speaker 8: It's decent.

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Speaker 13: He's got that, it's got the history and the heritage.

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Speaker 13: But then obviously the mighty Old Trafford as well. Yes,

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Speaker 13: that's that's changed a lot over the years. And there's

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Speaker 13: nothing better than booking a hotel room at Old Trafford

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Speaker 13: and sitting on your balcony of your room and watching

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Speaker 13: the touch cricket.

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Speaker 3: Yeah good, Oh that's what the Basin needs to do.

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Speaker 3: Build a hotel inside the inside the ground. You can

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Speaker 3: come out on your balcony and taking the first session

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Speaker 3: if you've had a big night the night before.

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Speaker 13: Exactly perfect, love.

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Speaker 3: It, Neil, good on your mate, drive safe, Good to

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Speaker 3: yet to you and I'll chalk you up as a

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Speaker 3: fan of the Basin. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighty is our number as we search for the home

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Speaker 3: of cricket here in New Zealand. Feel free to bring

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Speaker 3: in as Neil has comparisons to grounds around the world

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Speaker 3: or somewhere you've watched cricket where you have thought this

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Speaker 3: is great, this is ready. Call uh, what's the name

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Speaker 3: of the place in Alexandra molanew Park, Mollin New Park

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Speaker 3: and Alexandra washed the day's first class cricket there beautiful

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Speaker 3: hot man, it was hot. Gotta get a breakaway. We'll

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Speaker 3: come back spearline if you want to jump aboard. Oh,

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Speaker 3: Twenty four to one. Back to the line. Shortly, A

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Speaker 3: couple of texts have come through, not even to the

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Speaker 3: text means here, just to my own phone, actually from

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Speaker 3: a couple of people. I know. Nothing beats Pooka Kota

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Speaker 3: Park in New Plymouth, Poney says this one. And I've

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Speaker 3: got a text here from a name you might be

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Speaker 3: familiar with. Former colleague Miles Davis has texted in, I

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Speaker 3: cannot believe you had the temerity to mention Hagley in

603
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Speaker 3: the same breath as the basin pony, wash your mouth out.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Miles. Great to hear from your mate. Merry Christmas. Okay, Phil,

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Speaker 3: you're taking somebody to the home of cricket. So where

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Speaker 3: are you ending up?

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Speaker 12: Oh, the Gore Cricket grown.

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Speaker 15: What Phil, I don't even know. If we got a

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Speaker 15: cricket ground on from Gordon, it's joken. I would take

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Speaker 15: them to the basin. You're there pointing.

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Speaker 3: I am now. I was waiting for your explanation.

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Speaker 15: Oh, on the Gore cricket ground.

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Speaker 3: Or that, But I think we've moved on. I think

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00:27:40,747 --> 00:27:42,867
Speaker 3: we've moved on from Gore. So what is it about

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Speaker 3: the base? What is it about the basin that you like?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 15: For me, even though there's better, even though there may

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Speaker 15: be better grounds around to play on it, because I

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Speaker 15: was listening to mister Cummings talking there and that was interesting,

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Speaker 15: And even though there might be better grounds, I was

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Speaker 15: sort of because I'm fifty six and that I've always

622
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Speaker 15: grown up and I can remember the days that like

623
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Speaker 15: my ground parents lived most of their life in Cloyd.

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Speaker 15: So you mentioned Molin New Park and Alexandra and that,

625
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Speaker 15: and remember sitting on the old veranda and the radio

626
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Speaker 15: and my uncle's listening to the cricket you know, being

627
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Speaker 15: played there in those hot days. So and I've always

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Speaker 15: grown up and whenever with the Basin Reserve being kind

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Speaker 15: of synonymous with cricket and being knowing kind of with

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Speaker 15: cricket and that. So for me, it's the kind of

631
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Speaker 15: the history of it that makes it the spiritual home

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Speaker 15: of cricket in New Zealand, even though, like I say,

633
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Speaker 15: there might be technically better grounds or better places to

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Speaker 15: watch or commentate fombing that or but because you know,

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Speaker 15: there's just that history, like you said, with Hadley and

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Speaker 15: the four hundred workers and the three hundred, with Brenda

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Speaker 15: McCullum and that. Yeah, as a kid growing up and

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Speaker 15: a teenager and beyond, it always just seemed like whenever,

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Speaker 15: that seemed like that was the right place to play

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Speaker 15: a game of cricket, Like that's where it should be

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Speaker 15: played at the Basin because it's just just became known

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Speaker 15: as as.

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Speaker 16: The home of years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well so much has happened there. Phil you know,

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Speaker 3: when you go along to the Basin, you look out there,

646
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Speaker 3: and this is probably true of every ground. You look

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Speaker 3: out there and you think about the things that have

648
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Speaker 3: happened on that patch of grass, you know, going back

649
00:29:26,707 --> 00:29:30,867
Speaker 3: years decades often and it's not just cricket. You know,

650
00:29:30,907 --> 00:29:32,867
Speaker 3: whenever you go to a place like Eden Park for

651
00:29:32,907 --> 00:29:35,147
Speaker 3: a game of rugby, you can't help but look out

652
00:29:35,147 --> 00:29:37,787
Speaker 3: there and think about the history of the place. You know,

653
00:29:37,987 --> 00:29:41,107
Speaker 3: Beaver's penalty in the twenty eleven Rugby World Cup Final,

654
00:29:41,427 --> 00:29:44,947
Speaker 3: Grant Elliott hitting that six in the twenty fifteen Cricket

655
00:29:44,987 --> 00:29:46,907
Speaker 3: World Cup semi final. But even going back to the

656
00:29:47,187 --> 00:29:49,147
Speaker 3: you know, the Springbok turer in nineteen eighty one and

657
00:29:49,227 --> 00:29:51,747
Speaker 3: flower bombs being dropped, all of that stuff, And I'm

658
00:29:51,827 --> 00:29:53,987
Speaker 3: going way, way, way, way way back to I think

659
00:29:54,027 --> 00:29:56,307
Speaker 3: New Zealand being bowled out for twenty six. That was

660
00:29:56,307 --> 00:29:59,747
Speaker 3: an Eden Park. That same patch of grass has had

661
00:29:59,867 --> 00:30:01,547
Speaker 3: so much history on it, you know, And it's the

662
00:30:01,547 --> 00:30:03,507
Speaker 3: same anywhere, the same at the basin. You look out

663
00:30:03,507 --> 00:30:06,667
Speaker 3: there and you think about Bass three hundred and Martin

664
00:30:06,667 --> 00:30:09,067
Speaker 3: Crow's two nine to nine and anything else that jumps

665
00:30:09,107 --> 00:30:09,627
Speaker 3: into your mind.

666
00:30:10,667 --> 00:30:16,787
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, And like you say, I just can't think

667
00:30:16,907 --> 00:30:19,787
Speaker 15: when I think of the Basin Reserve, That's all I

668
00:30:19,827 --> 00:30:21,507
Speaker 15: think of is cricket. I don't even think of a

669
00:30:21,587 --> 00:30:24,387
Speaker 15: rugby game being played on or any other sport being

670
00:30:24,427 --> 00:30:26,587
Speaker 15: played on it. And I guess that again makes it

671
00:30:26,667 --> 00:30:29,787
Speaker 15: reinforces to me in my mind that it's the home

672
00:30:29,827 --> 00:30:32,027
Speaker 15: of spiritual home in New Zealand cricket because all I

673
00:30:32,067 --> 00:30:34,507
Speaker 15: think about the Basin Reserve is just cricket, and that's

674
00:30:34,507 --> 00:30:38,147
Speaker 15: where you play cricket, you know. So yeah, I also say, pointy,

675
00:30:38,947 --> 00:30:40,827
Speaker 15: just get a quick one. And so I agree with

676
00:30:40,867 --> 00:30:43,827
Speaker 15: the fellow that wrung up about your being the best

677
00:30:44,027 --> 00:30:47,707
Speaker 15: sports commentator in that on the show and the best

678
00:30:47,747 --> 00:30:50,187
Speaker 15: sports show. I really enjoy it and I'll miss your

679
00:30:50,227 --> 00:30:52,627
Speaker 15: show to morraw because I'm traveling up to North Island

680
00:30:52,627 --> 00:30:58,547
Speaker 15: with my cousins for Christmas. But both you and you

681
00:30:58,707 --> 00:31:02,507
Speaker 15: produce a way Andy Sorry, who seems like a great

682
00:31:02,507 --> 00:31:08,147
Speaker 15: fella as well, who's been encouragement, courage and being try

683
00:31:08,227 --> 00:31:10,267
Speaker 15: to encourage me and that with because I get a

684
00:31:10,267 --> 00:31:12,627
Speaker 15: bit of problems with depressing that, but he's been very

685
00:31:12,667 --> 00:31:14,227
Speaker 15: good when I've talked to him and rang up. So

686
00:31:14,227 --> 00:31:15,827
Speaker 15: I just want to shout out both to you and

687
00:31:15,867 --> 00:31:18,827
Speaker 15: say looking forward to seeing you next year and enjoy

688
00:31:18,907 --> 00:31:20,987
Speaker 15: your show and chatting again in a Merry Christmas to

689
00:31:21,067 --> 00:31:21,827
Speaker 15: you both as well.

690
00:31:21,987 --> 00:31:24,387
Speaker 3: Good on your pill Drive safe tomorrow if you're driving well,

691
00:31:24,387 --> 00:31:26,947
Speaker 3: Travel safe if you're traveling. I've enjoyed chatting to you

692
00:31:26,987 --> 00:31:28,987
Speaker 3: this year, mate. We'll do it on the other side

693
00:31:29,027 --> 00:31:31,627
Speaker 3: as well. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

694
00:31:31,827 --> 00:31:34,547
Speaker 3: is our number. No brainer. Pinty says this text. It's

695
00:31:34,547 --> 00:31:37,627
Speaker 3: the basin, dedicated ground, but surround of grass band and

696
00:31:37,707 --> 00:31:41,427
Speaker 3: Bahuda Kawa love the museum stand as well. Best cricketing experience.

697
00:31:41,467 --> 00:31:44,067
Speaker 3: First day of the First India Test in twenty nineteen,

698
00:31:44,107 --> 00:31:47,027
Speaker 3: Kyle Jamison's first Test, I think, says this text. Don't

699
00:31:47,067 --> 00:31:52,067
Speaker 3: let anyone talk you into the character A characterist Hagley Oval.

700
00:31:52,707 --> 00:31:55,907
Speaker 3: All right, I won't. I won't let anybody talk me

701
00:31:55,947 --> 00:31:58,387
Speaker 3: into that. Maris you like the basin?

702
00:31:58,547 --> 00:32:01,867
Speaker 11: Ye oh boy, you can't beat it. Look and this

703
00:32:02,067 --> 00:32:04,227
Speaker 11: so like you said, there's so much history there. Look,

704
00:32:04,227 --> 00:32:06,867
Speaker 11: I played club cricket and cristis the high Schoolobe. We're

705
00:32:06,907 --> 00:32:09,387
Speaker 11: based at Hagley Oval, you know, but.

706
00:32:09,267 --> 00:32:10,347
Speaker 8: That doesn't mean anything.

707
00:32:10,867 --> 00:32:12,507
Speaker 11: The base there was always going to be the home

708
00:32:12,547 --> 00:32:14,747
Speaker 11: of cricket if you go back to the one days,

709
00:32:14,827 --> 00:32:16,267
Speaker 11: you know, when there was at ninety five when they

710
00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:22,627
Speaker 11: had the World Cup one days there, ninety ninety five, but.

711
00:32:22,627 --> 00:32:25,907
Speaker 3: Earlier than that ninety two, yeah, ninety twenty, Yeah.

712
00:32:26,307 --> 00:32:28,067
Speaker 11: And that's where they end, both of them, Mike get

713
00:32:28,067 --> 00:32:29,827
Speaker 11: and all disappeared down the marble sounds got on the

714
00:32:29,787 --> 00:32:31,387
Speaker 11: boots for three days and turned up in the morning

715
00:32:31,387 --> 00:32:32,627
Speaker 11: of the game and stuff like that.

716
00:32:32,547 --> 00:32:32,987
Speaker 10: Again got.

717
00:32:35,347 --> 00:32:36,707
Speaker 7: It hit the pay of wine back.

718
00:32:38,987 --> 00:32:40,627
Speaker 8: That hasn't happened, Hagley.

719
00:32:40,747 --> 00:32:41,827
Speaker 5: So how can that be the home?

720
00:32:42,667 --> 00:32:43,987
Speaker 16: In all of those things?

721
00:32:44,547 --> 00:32:47,027
Speaker 11: Then you go back in the early eighties, you and

722
00:32:47,067 --> 00:32:50,267
Speaker 11: Chatfield charging the great Evan Gray, the left arm spinner,

723
00:32:50,507 --> 00:32:53,627
Speaker 11: when Wellington won everything from the Shell Cup to Shell Trophy,

724
00:32:53,827 --> 00:32:56,667
Speaker 11: you know, and all of that's the home of cricket

725
00:32:57,147 --> 00:33:00,147
Speaker 11: and in that the heritage. Not only was it a

726
00:33:00,187 --> 00:33:02,627
Speaker 11: first class venue, it's been a test venue. It's been

727
00:33:02,667 --> 00:33:05,147
Speaker 11: one day as you know, David Gower going there and

728
00:33:05,467 --> 00:33:06,987
Speaker 11: I remember there was a goal I went to school

729
00:33:06,987 --> 00:33:08,507
Speaker 11: with it. There was a first eleven trip down there

730
00:33:08,547 --> 00:33:11,227
Speaker 11: to watch the one dar against England in the eighties,

731
00:33:11,227 --> 00:33:13,627
Speaker 11: eighty two or something, and David gal was sitting there

732
00:33:13,627 --> 00:33:15,387
Speaker 11: and he wasn't wearing his white foppy hat. This guy

733
00:33:15,387 --> 00:33:18,427
Speaker 11: in Lindsay Davischell's at he's a school teacher. Woman who year, David,

734
00:33:18,467 --> 00:33:21,507
Speaker 11: where's your white floppy And all these women burst out

735
00:33:21,587 --> 00:33:23,787
Speaker 11: laughing and it's just that character because you're right on

736
00:33:23,827 --> 00:33:26,187
Speaker 11: the on the boundary, you're right there in the game,

737
00:33:26,267 --> 00:33:29,067
Speaker 11: and it's just, you know, how do you forget those memories?

738
00:33:29,987 --> 00:33:31,067
Speaker 17: It was almost sold out.

739
00:33:31,187 --> 00:33:34,867
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I remember that England when England were here,

740
00:33:34,867 --> 00:33:37,227
Speaker 3: it would have been early eighties. I remember David Gower

741
00:33:37,307 --> 00:33:40,187
Speaker 3: was caught and bold by you and Chatfield cheaply as well.

742
00:33:40,587 --> 00:33:43,147
Speaker 3: It's got like chet to David Garre a couple of

743
00:33:43,187 --> 00:33:45,347
Speaker 3: weeks ago out they see for a month or so

744
00:33:45,387 --> 00:33:46,867
Speaker 3: there at the beginning of eighty three. He just got

745
00:33:46,867 --> 00:33:48,827
Speaker 3: one hundred every time he battered against us. But he

746
00:33:48,867 --> 00:33:50,787
Speaker 3: turned up at the basin and he spooned one back

747
00:33:50,827 --> 00:33:54,547
Speaker 3: to Chats obviously our icon and Wellington who dived across

748
00:33:54,547 --> 00:33:55,947
Speaker 3: and took a court and bold and got him out

749
00:33:55,947 --> 00:33:57,987
Speaker 3: for I think it was two or three, not many anyway,

750
00:33:58,067 --> 00:33:59,867
Speaker 3: So I remember that moment as well. From that from

751
00:33:59,907 --> 00:34:01,907
Speaker 3: the ground and you go.

752
00:34:01,907 --> 00:34:03,827
Speaker 11: From that game there and then there was a time

753
00:34:03,827 --> 00:34:06,307
Speaker 11: when New Zealand was pumping Australia and Wayne Phillips go

754
00:34:06,427 --> 00:34:09,067
Speaker 11: out and scored one hundred, bedding down the order, you know,

755
00:34:09,267 --> 00:34:11,347
Speaker 11: and beat us, you know, and we were all sitting

756
00:34:11,347 --> 00:34:13,027
Speaker 11: on your Vatman with a couple of even as there.

757
00:34:13,107 --> 00:34:14,787
Speaker 8: You know, we're thinking we're going to.

758
00:34:14,747 --> 00:34:17,627
Speaker 18: Get this home, and we lost, you know, so it was.

759
00:34:17,787 --> 00:34:20,987
Speaker 11: There's been some wonderful things here over long periods of time.

760
00:34:21,067 --> 00:34:23,267
Speaker 11: And and like you can sit under the tree, you

761
00:34:23,307 --> 00:34:26,307
Speaker 11: can ever be, you can do whatever, and it is

762
00:34:26,547 --> 00:34:29,507
Speaker 11: and you've got the members standing there and the Wondrous

763
00:34:29,547 --> 00:34:32,947
Speaker 11: Cricket Club have the luncheons here and all that heritage

764
00:34:33,307 --> 00:34:35,747
Speaker 11: is what makes it a great venue in a great place.

765
00:34:35,787 --> 00:34:36,587
Speaker 8: Forget about the weather.

766
00:34:36,907 --> 00:34:38,987
Speaker 11: It rains all around the country, you know, and.

767
00:34:38,987 --> 00:34:41,347
Speaker 8: You can't decide that. You know that. You know. You

768
00:34:41,427 --> 00:34:42,347
Speaker 8: go to Price, its.

769
00:34:42,227 --> 00:34:45,707
Speaker 11: Blows out northwestwardt thinking hot and the next starts freezing cold.

770
00:34:46,147 --> 00:34:48,027
Speaker 11: The weather affects the whole of the country. But the

771
00:34:48,067 --> 00:34:50,547
Speaker 11: basin's got to be the home of cricket for New Zealand,

772
00:34:50,787 --> 00:34:52,267
Speaker 11: good man, And you.

773
00:34:52,187 --> 00:34:55,307
Speaker 3: Know that's it, good man, Marris greater chat mate, I've

774
00:34:55,347 --> 00:34:58,147
Speaker 3: reminiscing with you. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon and

775
00:34:58,187 --> 00:35:00,147
Speaker 3: your Christmas mate. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

776
00:35:00,187 --> 00:35:02,187
Speaker 3: coming up quarter to one spear line if you want

777
00:35:02,187 --> 00:35:04,147
Speaker 3: to jump on a few texts to get through as well.

778
00:35:04,147 --> 00:35:05,467
Speaker 3: Back in a moment on Weekend Sport.

779
00:35:06,787 --> 00:35:07,827
Speaker 2: You be the TMO.

780
00:35:08,107 --> 00:35:10,507
Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

781
00:35:10,667 --> 00:35:15,307
Speaker 1: Weekends Sport with Jason Pine and GJ. Guvnerholmes, New Zealand's

782
00:35:15,347 --> 00:35:17,467
Speaker 1: most trusted home Builder, News Talks.

783
00:35:17,187 --> 00:35:19,867
Speaker 3: Den B News Talks at B and Weekend Support coming

784
00:35:19,947 --> 00:35:21,507
Speaker 3: up twelve to one. Back to the lines in just

785
00:35:21,547 --> 00:35:24,107
Speaker 3: a moment from Graham Piney. If you're talking about cricket grounds,

786
00:35:24,107 --> 00:35:26,707
Speaker 3: this one has well and truly been consigned to history,

787
00:35:26,747 --> 00:35:30,307
Speaker 3: but probably one of the hottest grounds in New Zealand

788
00:35:30,467 --> 00:35:34,107
Speaker 3: hide just north of Middle March and Central Otarga. For me,

789
00:35:34,507 --> 00:35:37,027
Speaker 3: I was in Saint John, says Graham, and after the

790
00:35:37,067 --> 00:35:39,307
Speaker 3: game I was asked to treat players for sunburn, not

791
00:35:39,427 --> 00:35:42,987
Speaker 3: just burnt on exposed arms and faces, but sun burnt

792
00:35:42,987 --> 00:35:46,427
Speaker 3: shoulders and backs. The sun was so intense back then,

793
00:35:46,907 --> 00:35:49,747
Speaker 3: in the late sixties, that it burnt through their shirts.

794
00:35:52,027 --> 00:35:56,307
Speaker 3: Oh dear, that doesn't sound very good. And this one here, Pinty,

795
00:35:56,307 --> 00:36:00,227
Speaker 3: the basins number one and the Queen Elizabeth Park Oval

796
00:36:00,267 --> 00:36:02,267
Speaker 3: and Masterton is number two. That is a very nice

797
00:36:02,307 --> 00:36:05,507
Speaker 3: cricket ground. That's a terrific place to spend some time, Calvin,

798
00:36:05,507 --> 00:36:06,307
Speaker 3: thanks for holding how.

799
00:36:06,227 --> 00:36:11,427
Speaker 6: I ye, I'm going. Good columns of the season to you, Jason. Yeah.

800
00:36:11,467 --> 00:36:13,867
Speaker 6: And here in the tron and Hamilton said in park

801
00:36:13,987 --> 00:36:19,507
Speaker 6: fantastic park, beautiful and just historically speaking, My only time

802
00:36:19,547 --> 00:36:22,027
Speaker 6: I ever saw Peter Snell run there when it was

803
00:36:22,067 --> 00:36:25,987
Speaker 6: an athletic track twilight meeting and I think it was

804
00:36:26,027 --> 00:36:29,667
Speaker 6: on a Tuesday twilight and no big proper big light

805
00:36:29,707 --> 00:36:32,307
Speaker 6: set up or anything like that, and it must have

806
00:36:32,307 --> 00:36:34,787
Speaker 6: been the eight hundred. He ran around twice, one second

807
00:36:34,787 --> 00:36:37,507
Speaker 6: outside the world record, and about ten days later long

808
00:36:37,507 --> 00:36:40,667
Speaker 6: and he broke the world mile record. So that was

809
00:36:40,707 --> 00:36:42,987
Speaker 6: Peter Snell my only time ever I saw him live.

810
00:36:43,427 --> 00:36:46,867
Speaker 6: And then I've been to a few cricket matches there.

811
00:36:46,987 --> 00:36:51,187
Speaker 6: Very splendid to watch on that and the big embankments

812
00:36:51,307 --> 00:36:55,507
Speaker 6: there when the Rugby park work at a stadium, when

813
00:36:55,547 --> 00:36:59,507
Speaker 6: they moved the ground about ten feet three meters away

814
00:36:59,587 --> 00:37:03,307
Speaker 6: from the old grandstand and went down three meters all

815
00:37:03,387 --> 00:37:07,987
Speaker 6: of that soil from the whole playing field. They carted

816
00:37:08,027 --> 00:37:11,067
Speaker 6: that up to Seddon Park and that is now the embankment.

817
00:37:12,307 --> 00:37:15,467
Speaker 3: Well, one thing you always get in Hamilton is a

818
00:37:15,547 --> 00:37:19,987
Speaker 3: terrific playing surface, whether it's at a sorry Seddon Park

819
00:37:20,147 --> 00:37:23,187
Speaker 3: or at f MGS. It's called now because Carl Johnson's

820
00:37:23,227 --> 00:37:26,387
Speaker 3: in charge, and you probably know Carl kJ. He's one

821
00:37:26,387 --> 00:37:29,587
Speaker 3: of the greats as far as the as far as

822
00:37:29,587 --> 00:37:33,147
Speaker 3: the turf culture scenarios are concerned.

823
00:37:34,067 --> 00:37:34,507
Speaker 19: Hamilton.

824
00:37:34,787 --> 00:37:36,387
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you who likes Hamilton. That's

825
00:37:36,427 --> 00:37:37,467
Speaker 3: Kin Williamson play.

826
00:37:39,267 --> 00:37:39,667
Speaker 8: Yeah.

827
00:37:39,707 --> 00:37:43,707
Speaker 6: But also like originally that that playing the whole Seddon

828
00:37:43,707 --> 00:37:46,227
Speaker 6: Park it was all flat but that so that's where

829
00:37:46,227 --> 00:37:48,467
Speaker 6: the amankment come from, all of that soils from down

830
00:37:48,467 --> 00:37:53,227
Speaker 6: the road Andy about half a kilometer. And also one

831
00:37:53,267 --> 00:37:54,787
Speaker 6: time when I was here in the grand stand, the

832
00:37:54,867 --> 00:37:57,107
Speaker 6: chat sitting next to me, I can't think of his

833
00:37:57,187 --> 00:37:59,147
Speaker 6: first name now, but the chap you'll know it Hamil,

834
00:37:59,467 --> 00:38:02,507
Speaker 6: the one who rode across wherever he did the big

835
00:38:02,587 --> 00:38:08,187
Speaker 6: road trip, remember, No, is it Clive or I can't

836
00:38:08,187 --> 00:38:11,707
Speaker 6: remember his name now. He you know he had the

837
00:38:11,747 --> 00:38:13,987
Speaker 6: small boat when he rode by himself with a little

838
00:38:14,027 --> 00:38:14,827
Speaker 6: cabin on it.

839
00:38:16,427 --> 00:38:18,707
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only hammer I can think of his mark Hamil.

840
00:38:18,747 --> 00:38:21,147
Speaker 3: He was Luke Skywalker in Star Wars. I don't think

841
00:38:21,147 --> 00:38:22,267
Speaker 3: that's who you were sitting next to.

842
00:38:22,947 --> 00:38:25,667
Speaker 6: No, I'm definitely not. No, this is a proper, a proper,

843
00:38:25,747 --> 00:38:30,147
Speaker 6: a proper man anyway, so it's been fantastic. I watched

844
00:38:30,507 --> 00:38:33,627
Speaker 6: a few one dayers there. They must have had the

845
00:38:33,707 --> 00:38:35,747
Speaker 6: One Day World Cup there or somewhere. There was two

846
00:38:35,787 --> 00:38:38,147
Speaker 6: teams here. I think one was Australia and I can't

847
00:38:38,187 --> 00:38:40,347
Speaker 6: remember the name of the other team. But one day

848
00:38:40,467 --> 00:38:43,107
Speaker 6: I always saw Gee great on TV to watch. But

849
00:38:43,147 --> 00:38:46,267
Speaker 6: when you're there watching all day, it's a long, long.

850
00:38:46,107 --> 00:38:47,787
Speaker 3: Day, yeah, And I think a lot of people like

851
00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:50,347
Speaker 3: that Kelvin. They like spending the whole day there and

852
00:38:50,387 --> 00:38:51,947
Speaker 3: a little bit worse for wear as the day he

853
00:38:52,027 --> 00:38:53,867
Speaker 3: goes on. Good to tell to you, mate, A few

854
00:38:53,867 --> 00:38:56,867
Speaker 3: ticks to get through. Peters is undoubtedly the Basin Athletic

855
00:38:56,907 --> 00:38:58,507
Speaker 3: Park as well used to be the home of rugby.

856
00:38:58,507 --> 00:39:00,307
Speaker 3: In fact, it had a label painted on the main

857
00:39:00,387 --> 00:39:03,427
Speaker 3: stand saying just that Eden Park took the label when

858
00:39:03,547 --> 00:39:06,307
Speaker 3: Athletic Park was closed. Let's not take the base of

859
00:39:06,587 --> 00:39:09,187
Speaker 3: label away, says Peter. Thank you, Peter. I've been to

860
00:39:09,307 --> 00:39:12,067
Speaker 3: Hagley many times, says Butch as a cantab went to

861
00:39:12,067 --> 00:39:14,387
Speaker 3: the Basin for the first time for the England Test

862
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Speaker 3: Hospitality Service and Friendliness outstanding good on your butch. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and we are pretty hospitable in the capitol. Brenda's this

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Speaker 3: pinty basined by default. If Lancaster Park was still here,

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't have It would have been a great argument.

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Speaker 3: Astell's two to two to two First Test went over Australia.

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Speaker 3: McCullum's t twenty century had these three hundred wickets that

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Speaker 3: happened at the basin Brendan, the three hundred wickets I

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Speaker 3: think he got the what did he get at Lancaster Park?

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Speaker 16: Was it the.

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Speaker 3: Was this his four hundredth? Might have been his four hundredth?

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Speaker 3: I'll check that one day went over the Windy's in

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one. Good on your Brendan. Thanks indeed, mate

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Speaker 3: O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty's our number

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Speaker 3: nine two ninety two. Rob Hammil is who Calvin's talking about,

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Speaker 3: Rob Hamil. I've met Rob Hamil. Yeah, he wrote that book.

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Speaker 3: It was called The Naked Rower because a lot of

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Speaker 3: what a lot of the rowing he did, the nude

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Speaker 3: seven and a half to.

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Speaker 1: One, the schoon from the track fields and the court

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Speaker 1: on your home of Lord weekends for it with Jason Vine.

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Speaker 3: News talks'd be four away from one. Thanks for all

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Speaker 3: your text Yes, Rob hammil Rob Hammilers who Calvin was

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Speaker 3: talking about. Thanks indeed for all the texts updating you

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Speaker 3: on Live Cricket from the Basin Reserve, Australia one hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty nine for four and the twenty ninth over

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Speaker 3: batting first against New Zealand and the second of the

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Speaker 3: Rose By One Day Internationals. The first game was unfortunately

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Speaker 3: rained out on Thursday, so just the two games today

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Speaker 3: and again on Monday back at the Basin Reserve. Definitely

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Speaker 3: the Basin, says this text, and the Oval in the

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Speaker 3: UK pretty nice ground as well. Hey, Binney says this one.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the day at the Basin when Greg

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Speaker 3: Matthews had a toilet seat thrown at him? The Basin

895
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Speaker 3: is the home of cricket without doubt. Merry Christmas. Yeah

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Speaker 3: not just for that reason. I remember asking Greg Matthews

897
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Speaker 3: about that. We had him on the radio. Was that

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Speaker 3: last year and he met him on the radio Greg

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Speaker 3: Matthews this year and he talked to at Easter That's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was on for about an hour just chatting away.

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Speaker 3: What a good man. Thanks for all your chat on

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Speaker 3: the Home of cricket after one, the big sports story

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Speaker 3: of the week, Liam Lawson.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

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Speaker 1: and after field.

906
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Speaker 3: It's all on winder and Sport.

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Speaker 1: With Jason Vaide on your home of Sports Talks.

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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome in. This is weekend Sport on News Talks.

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Speaker 3: He'd be four days out from Christmas, undoubtedly mad out there.

910
00:41:41,547 --> 00:41:45,307
Speaker 3: It's relatively tranquil and hear where Andy and I are.

911
00:41:46,347 --> 00:41:49,267
Speaker 3: I hope it's going okay for you if you're braving

912
00:41:50,027 --> 00:41:52,787
Speaker 3: the Christmas shopping crowds. I hope we can give you

913
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Speaker 3: some relief from that with some sport to talk and

914
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Speaker 3: listen to. You can call us if you like. Oh

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Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number.

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Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text line emails into

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Speaker 3: Jason at News Talks, b dot co dot NZ. Adam

918
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Speaker 3: Peacock out of Australia this hour. But we're going to

919
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Speaker 3: kick it off with motorsport because in fact, before we

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Speaker 3: get to that, let me just update you from the

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Speaker 3: base in Reserve Australia. One fifty three for four after

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Speaker 3: thirty one overs, so just under five and over one

923
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Speaker 3: fifty three for four so New Zealand kind of keeping

924
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Speaker 3: the brakes on was a fast start by Australia. This

925
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Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl one Day International Course fifty overmatch Molly Penfold.

926
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Speaker 3: What a spell from her. Three for twenty five off

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Speaker 3: seven overs for Molly Penfeld, including Alissa Healey and Elise

928
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Speaker 3: Perry and Beth Mooney, So three of the big guns

929
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Speaker 3: in the Australian side all falling to the bowling of

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Speaker 3: Molly Penfold. So one fifty three for four into the

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Speaker 3: thirty second over, so just under fives. New Zealand having

932
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Speaker 3: won the toss and sent Australia into bat Kiwi. Liam

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Speaker 3: Lawson will be a Red Bull Racing driver for the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five Formula One season. The team officially confirmed

935
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Speaker 3: late on Thursday night, New Zealand Time that he will

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Speaker 3: partner full time defending world champion Max for Stappen next year.

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Speaker 3: That news came less than twenty four hours after Red

938
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Speaker 3: Ball announced they were parting ways with Mexican driver Sergio Perez.

939
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Speaker 3: Motorsport analyst Eric Thompson is with us to run an

940
00:43:24,227 --> 00:43:27,547
Speaker 3: eye over this and give us some deeper analysis see

941
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Speaker 3: This seemed more and more likely over the last few weeks.

942
00:43:31,147 --> 00:43:35,107
Speaker 3: Or so, why would red Ball have eventually chosen Liam

943
00:43:35,187 --> 00:43:39,267
Speaker 3: Lawson over the other candidate Yuki Sonoda.

944
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Speaker 8: Liam is just a better fit. And also he's spent

945
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Speaker 8: a lot of time in development with the Formula one

946
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Speaker 8: current and loads and loads and loads of time on

947
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Speaker 8: the simulator. So and he has a great rapport with

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Speaker 8: his engineers. In fact, in a recent interview of one

949
00:43:58,267 --> 00:44:01,987
Speaker 8: of his chief engineers, they said they really like Liam

950
00:44:02,027 --> 00:44:05,707
Speaker 8: because he has a really good understanding of how things work.

951
00:44:06,347 --> 00:44:08,227
Speaker 8: I mean a lot of people understand how the things work,

952
00:44:08,267 --> 00:44:10,667
Speaker 8: but to be able to communicate that to your engineer

953
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Speaker 8: to get the best out of a car is incredibly important.

954
00:44:15,227 --> 00:44:19,947
Speaker 8: At that level. Yuki Sonoda can as a one lap maestro.

955
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Speaker 8: He is extraordinarily fast, but consistent, not really you know,

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Speaker 8: he's crashed and warm up laps. He's sort of bent

957
00:44:28,467 --> 00:44:30,347
Speaker 8: the car when there's been no need to, and he

958
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Speaker 8: can get a bit lippy.

959
00:44:31,387 --> 00:44:31,947
Speaker 5: On the radio.

960
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Speaker 8: And well Liam actually apologized for clipping the bird, but

961
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Speaker 8: I think he'll be okay after that. Pointy, But Yuki's

962
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Speaker 8: a little bit doesn't really get on that well with

963
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Speaker 8: you know, other people in the team, not badly, but

964
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Speaker 8: and also he doesn't have that ability. Liam has always

965
00:44:48,387 --> 00:44:51,747
Speaker 8: had been able to have discussions with engineers to improve

966
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Speaker 8: the car, and that's what Red Bull need especially so,

967
00:44:55,587 --> 00:44:57,307
Speaker 8: and where I think a few people are missing a

968
00:44:57,307 --> 00:44:59,907
Speaker 8: trick or two is that there's only one more year

969
00:44:59,907 --> 00:45:01,947
Speaker 8: in that car in twenty twenty six. It's a brand

970
00:45:01,987 --> 00:45:03,947
Speaker 8: new car. They have a brand new engine, brand new everything,

971
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Speaker 8: and they reckon Liam has the ability to adapt to

972
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Speaker 8: the brand new car, maybe potentially even quicker than Max

973
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Speaker 8: to Stappen.

974
00:45:11,827 --> 00:45:15,827
Speaker 3: Wow, well that is a high piece of praise. Well,

975
00:45:15,907 --> 00:45:18,387
Speaker 3: let's talk about twenty twenty five. First of all, this

976
00:45:18,547 --> 00:45:22,067
Speaker 3: is a very general question. Et what does success look

977
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Speaker 3: like for Liam next year? If we're talking before Christmas

978
00:45:25,547 --> 00:45:27,827
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, which I'm sure we will, what

979
00:45:27,867 --> 00:45:30,267
Speaker 3: will have had to have happened for Liam to call

980
00:45:30,347 --> 00:45:31,787
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five a success.

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Speaker 8: I'm regularly getting points for the Manufacturer's Championship. Red Bull

982
00:45:36,667 --> 00:45:39,907
Speaker 8: aren't at the moment looking for him to win a title.

983
00:45:40,107 --> 00:45:41,907
Speaker 8: You know, they've already got a full time title winner.

984
00:45:42,107 --> 00:45:45,587
Speaker 8: They're looking for somebody who can actually get points. You know,

985
00:45:45,667 --> 00:45:49,187
Speaker 8: the points gap between the Stappen and Perez I think

986
00:45:49,307 --> 00:45:52,987
Speaker 8: was two hundred and eighty odd that was more than

987
00:45:53,027 --> 00:45:57,467
Speaker 8: the total of every other points, differentiating every other team.

988
00:45:57,587 --> 00:45:57,827
Speaker 3: Wow.

989
00:45:58,867 --> 00:46:01,427
Speaker 8: Now, and you know that Red Bull dropped from leading

990
00:46:01,427 --> 00:46:04,267
Speaker 8: the championship at the summer break the Manufacturer's Championship I'm

991
00:46:04,307 --> 00:46:09,267
Speaker 8: talking about to third. That's tens upon tens of millions

992
00:46:09,427 --> 00:46:12,747
Speaker 8: of US dollars in prize money out the door. So

993
00:46:12,827 --> 00:46:15,947
Speaker 8: they'll be looking for Liam to be within four or

994
00:46:15,947 --> 00:46:18,467
Speaker 8: five places of the staff in and to constantly be

995
00:46:18,507 --> 00:46:20,507
Speaker 8: picking up points. You know, if he can get on

996
00:46:20,507 --> 00:46:23,667
Speaker 8: the podium, huge bonus if he wins the race, Hello

997
00:46:23,707 --> 00:46:26,227
Speaker 8: Lulia and praise the good Lord. But if he finishes

998
00:46:26,267 --> 00:46:28,787
Speaker 8: the regularly in the points, they'll be as happy as so.

999
00:46:28,987 --> 00:46:31,627
Speaker 3: Just on that. Then he'll still be able to aim

1000
00:46:32,067 --> 00:46:35,667
Speaker 3: for podiums. Team instructions won't prevent him from guard as

1001
00:46:35,667 --> 00:46:37,307
Speaker 3: fast as he can and trying to finish as high

1002
00:46:37,347 --> 00:46:37,907
Speaker 3: up as he can.

1003
00:46:38,627 --> 00:46:39,587
Speaker 16: No, no, not at all.

1004
00:46:39,947 --> 00:46:43,307
Speaker 8: I mean, as long as you know the golden rule, well,

1005
00:46:43,347 --> 00:46:47,147
Speaker 8: there's two golden rules actually. Is one, you do not

1006
00:46:47,467 --> 00:46:53,147
Speaker 8: crash into your teammate's that's the cardinal's sin. And number two,

1007
00:46:53,787 --> 00:46:56,027
Speaker 8: the thing that you really want to do, what every

1008
00:46:56,067 --> 00:46:59,827
Speaker 8: teammate wants to do is beat his other teammate. And

1009
00:46:59,867 --> 00:47:02,387
Speaker 8: so if Lin gets the opportunity, you know, Max might

1010
00:47:02,427 --> 00:47:04,187
Speaker 8: be struggling in the car or the car set up,

1011
00:47:04,547 --> 00:47:06,547
Speaker 8: or he's overcooked his tires. Yet they'll be just go

1012
00:47:06,587 --> 00:47:10,107
Speaker 8: and like go for it. That's not crash into him.

1013
00:47:10,147 --> 00:47:12,627
Speaker 3: No, I think that's probably fair. I think that's probably

1014
00:47:12,707 --> 00:47:17,587
Speaker 3: a good golden rule inside that team though, et there's

1015
00:47:17,627 --> 00:47:20,627
Speaker 3: no doubting the pecking order Max for Stappen, four time

1016
00:47:20,667 --> 00:47:23,427
Speaker 3: defending world champion, Liam Lawson the new kid on the block.

1017
00:47:23,747 --> 00:47:26,867
Speaker 3: How much Red Bull resource will be throwing Max for

1018
00:47:26,947 --> 00:47:29,547
Speaker 3: Stappin's way and what would that mean for Liam Lawson.

1019
00:47:30,587 --> 00:47:32,827
Speaker 8: What they'll do is they'll build a car for Max.

1020
00:47:33,707 --> 00:47:36,787
Speaker 8: But what's been becoming more and more evident is Max

1021
00:47:36,867 --> 00:47:39,267
Speaker 8: and Liam axual. You get on, which is a really

1022
00:47:39,307 --> 00:47:41,707
Speaker 8: good sign. And even some people laugh a bit. But

1023
00:47:41,827 --> 00:47:44,787
Speaker 8: you know Max's dad, Jostah Stafford, can throw his toys

1024
00:47:44,787 --> 00:47:47,107
Speaker 8: out of the cot on a semi regular basis and

1025
00:47:47,107 --> 00:47:49,747
Speaker 8: he can cause a bit of grief intenerally. Well, he's

1026
00:47:49,827 --> 00:47:52,467
Speaker 8: come out and said Jospah Staffin's come out and said

1027
00:47:52,467 --> 00:47:54,707
Speaker 8: he lights the cut of Liam's jib. You know he

1028
00:47:54,947 --> 00:47:56,827
Speaker 8: lies the way. You'd be a good fit for the team.

1029
00:47:56,947 --> 00:48:01,147
Speaker 8: So you know, all those really important political dynamics are

1030
00:48:01,187 --> 00:48:03,627
Speaker 8: all aligned. So at least Christian Horner and Marco and

1031
00:48:03,667 --> 00:48:06,347
Speaker 8: the Red Bull board you know, aren't going to be

1032
00:48:06,427 --> 00:48:09,947
Speaker 8: worried about a massive clash. But also they say that

1033
00:48:10,147 --> 00:48:11,907
Speaker 8: Liam has put his hand up and said he wants

1034
00:48:11,987 --> 00:48:15,627
Speaker 8: to learn from Max, learn craft, learn racing, learn how

1035
00:48:15,627 --> 00:48:18,347
Speaker 8: to go super quick. But he's also he likes a

1036
00:48:18,387 --> 00:48:21,067
Speaker 8: similar sort of car, so in a way that two

1037
00:48:21,067 --> 00:48:23,147
Speaker 8: of them will be developed, being able to develop that

1038
00:48:23,187 --> 00:48:25,507
Speaker 8: car in twenty twenty five, which is a huge bonus

1039
00:48:25,667 --> 00:48:26,587
Speaker 8: for the whole team.

1040
00:48:27,347 --> 00:48:29,467
Speaker 3: Talk to him about twenty twenty six you mentioned before,

1041
00:48:29,787 --> 00:48:32,667
Speaker 3: a new car, a new engine. So will Liam be

1042
00:48:32,787 --> 00:48:34,467
Speaker 3: a part of that or will he have to show

1043
00:48:34,507 --> 00:48:36,987
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five that he is worthy of being

1044
00:48:36,987 --> 00:48:38,227
Speaker 3: a part of twenty twenty six.

1045
00:48:39,067 --> 00:48:42,267
Speaker 8: Oh, you'll have to do his bet in twenty twenty five, definitely,

1046
00:48:42,867 --> 00:48:44,827
Speaker 8: you know, like he can't if he does a Perez

1047
00:48:45,267 --> 00:48:49,467
Speaker 8: and doesn't help the team get manufacturer's points. Yes, he

1048
00:48:49,507 --> 00:48:51,347
Speaker 8: will be at risk. And we've all seen what Red

1049
00:48:51,347 --> 00:48:53,547
Speaker 8: Bull have been like. You know, they're throwing young guys

1050
00:48:53,587 --> 00:48:56,467
Speaker 8: in there. Before I think there was debries Alex Alberan,

1051
00:48:56,667 --> 00:49:00,547
Speaker 8: Pierre Gasley, to name just a couple, even Brendan Hartley

1052
00:49:00,587 --> 00:49:05,027
Speaker 8: how to go in the team. So you know they're ruthless.

1053
00:49:05,147 --> 00:49:08,627
Speaker 8: But Liam has a lot of what I would call

1054
00:49:08,827 --> 00:49:13,227
Speaker 8: soft skills that makes the team happy and confident they

1055
00:49:13,227 --> 00:49:15,867
Speaker 8: can develop him, you know, and that he can grow

1056
00:49:15,907 --> 00:49:18,187
Speaker 8: within the team and be a really big support. And

1057
00:49:18,227 --> 00:49:20,267
Speaker 8: it's also the other thing is they'll be looking at

1058
00:49:20,827 --> 00:49:22,587
Speaker 8: is Max has sometimes said, you know, if I get

1059
00:49:22,627 --> 00:49:24,107
Speaker 8: fined for swearing anymore.

1060
00:49:23,827 --> 00:49:24,667
Speaker 7: I have to do any of this.

1061
00:49:25,467 --> 00:49:27,307
Speaker 8: You know, I don't need this. Here's a four time

1062
00:49:27,387 --> 00:49:30,627
Speaker 8: world championship. So if he decides to walk away, they've

1063
00:49:30,627 --> 00:49:34,187
Speaker 8: already got somebody in the team who who they're developing.

1064
00:49:34,267 --> 00:49:37,867
Speaker 8: And in twenty twenty six the cars will have a

1065
00:49:37,867 --> 00:49:41,227
Speaker 8: lot less downforce, and Liam and a couple of the

1066
00:49:41,227 --> 00:49:45,227
Speaker 8: other younger drivers in the category have driven cars with

1067
00:49:45,307 --> 00:49:47,587
Speaker 8: a lot less downforce than Formula One, so they're quite

1068
00:49:47,667 --> 00:49:51,347
Speaker 8: used to cars with very low downforce. So when the

1069
00:49:51,427 --> 00:49:53,547
Speaker 8: new car comes into twenty six days, you think that,

1070
00:49:53,627 --> 00:49:56,747
Speaker 8: you know, Liam will be positioned quite well, whereas Max

1071
00:49:56,867 --> 00:49:59,507
Speaker 8: may potentially struggle a little bit if they remove a

1072
00:49:59,507 --> 00:50:00,387
Speaker 8: whole lot of downfalls.

1073
00:50:01,267 --> 00:50:05,787
Speaker 3: How much, Yeah, how much will Liam Lawson's life change now?

1074
00:50:06,027 --> 00:50:12,987
Speaker 8: He I think it probably changed palpedly when he got

1075
00:50:13,107 --> 00:50:16,227
Speaker 8: the sixth Race gig this year. I think that's when

1076
00:50:16,267 --> 00:50:19,507
Speaker 8: he knew, right I am, I'm not hanging on by

1077
00:50:19,507 --> 00:50:22,147
Speaker 8: my fingertips in this category. I've got a firm grip

1078
00:50:22,867 --> 00:50:25,787
Speaker 8: on that bar with two hands and as long as

1079
00:50:25,827 --> 00:50:27,787
Speaker 8: I don't wreck the car on fine. So now he's

1080
00:50:27,787 --> 00:50:32,507
Speaker 8: stepping up onto that platform. But now he's really got,

1081
00:50:34,547 --> 00:50:36,347
Speaker 8: you know, a bit of a mountain to climb. Yet

1082
00:50:36,827 --> 00:50:39,147
Speaker 8: some people are saying, and I agree, that he's made

1083
00:50:39,147 --> 00:50:43,027
Speaker 8: it to base camp at Mount Everest, and you know

1084
00:50:43,267 --> 00:50:45,307
Speaker 8: a lot of people can't get the base camp at

1085
00:50:45,347 --> 00:50:48,307
Speaker 8: Mount Everest. That's a long way out. Now he's now

1086
00:50:48,347 --> 00:50:50,827
Speaker 8: he's got to keep going. So there's still another mountain

1087
00:50:50,867 --> 00:50:54,587
Speaker 8: that's but he's got all the right mental you know,

1088
00:50:55,547 --> 00:50:57,507
Speaker 8: at the attitude. He's got the right mental attitude and

1089
00:50:57,547 --> 00:51:00,627
Speaker 8: aptitudes for it. You know, he can develop. He wants

1090
00:51:00,667 --> 00:51:02,147
Speaker 8: to learn, and that's the thing he's always said, I

1091
00:51:02,147 --> 00:51:03,907
Speaker 8: was just here to win, but I'm also here to learn,

1092
00:51:04,507 --> 00:51:06,547
Speaker 8: and that you know, as a team principle that all

1093
00:51:06,587 --> 00:51:07,227
Speaker 8: you really want to hit.

1094
00:51:07,427 --> 00:51:09,387
Speaker 3: It's so interesting because you and I have chatted, and

1095
00:51:09,667 --> 00:51:12,067
Speaker 3: I remember thinking at the time that this was something

1096
00:51:12,107 --> 00:51:14,467
Speaker 3: that Liam would never be able to bring to the table.

1097
00:51:14,467 --> 00:51:18,107
Speaker 3: You talked about Sergio Perez and this huge Mexican backing

1098
00:51:18,147 --> 00:51:20,427
Speaker 3: and all those cans of Red Bull that can be

1099
00:51:20,507 --> 00:51:25,627
Speaker 3: sold in Mexico, Yuki Sonoda with the Japanese commercial backing

1100
00:51:25,627 --> 00:51:27,907
Speaker 3: and all of that. So clearly Red Bull have decided

1101
00:51:28,507 --> 00:51:31,707
Speaker 3: that what Liam brings, the soft skills, the ability to learn,

1102
00:51:31,987 --> 00:51:35,267
Speaker 3: the ability to develop, is more important than those things.

1103
00:51:36,107 --> 00:51:38,467
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think what made the decision a lot

1104
00:51:38,507 --> 00:51:44,707
Speaker 8: easier was Perez probably losing Red Bull more money by

1105
00:51:44,747 --> 00:51:48,987
Speaker 8: not cleaning points than his sponsorship would have bought next year.

1106
00:51:49,227 --> 00:51:52,067
Speaker 8: Right to the table, and they're just going and in limb.

1107
00:51:52,107 --> 00:51:54,267
Speaker 8: And it's also they want to get back to investing

1108
00:51:54,307 --> 00:51:57,827
Speaker 8: in youth. You know, they tried to bring Daniel Ricciardo

1109
00:51:57,947 --> 00:52:01,027
Speaker 8: in but that didn't work, you know, and they're just saying, look,

1110
00:52:01,107 --> 00:52:04,347
Speaker 8: we've got a junior development team. Let's get back to promoting.

1111
00:52:03,987 --> 00:52:05,187
Speaker 20: Junior development drivers.

1112
00:52:05,187 --> 00:52:06,067
Speaker 5: You know, they did it with.

1113
00:52:06,667 --> 00:52:10,147
Speaker 8: Vettel, they've done it with Max the staff, and they've

1114
00:52:10,187 --> 00:52:11,987
Speaker 8: tried it with a couple of others. It hasn't worked.

1115
00:52:13,107 --> 00:52:15,507
Speaker 8: They do work on the principle of you know how

1116
00:52:15,547 --> 00:52:17,587
Speaker 8: you and I probably probably not you, Pinty, but me

1117
00:52:17,827 --> 00:52:20,067
Speaker 8: but older than you, who learned to swim with my

1118
00:52:20,147 --> 00:52:23,267
Speaker 8: mum and dad. I was literally, not figuratively, chucked into

1119
00:52:23,267 --> 00:52:26,027
Speaker 8: the pool and said get to the get to the

1120
00:52:26,067 --> 00:52:29,467
Speaker 8: side and you'll be okay. That's a red ball philosophy,

1121
00:52:29,747 --> 00:52:33,187
Speaker 8: is you chuck them in and I he's just got

1122
00:52:33,587 --> 00:52:35,907
Speaker 8: just that's one thing Liam's got. He may not be

1123
00:52:35,947 --> 00:52:39,547
Speaker 8: the fastest guy on the track, you know. You know,

1124
00:52:39,747 --> 00:52:42,907
Speaker 8: he's no Oscar Piastre who won every category. You know

1125
00:52:43,027 --> 00:52:47,147
Speaker 8: he raised them, but he's a nevarious, stute young man.

1126
00:52:47,427 --> 00:52:49,227
Speaker 8: And that's what you need at that sport, you know,

1127
00:52:50,187 --> 00:52:52,147
Speaker 8: the team, the kill, ability to drive a car very

1128
00:52:52,227 --> 00:52:53,827
Speaker 8: very fast. Most of us can do that if we

1129
00:52:53,947 --> 00:52:56,467
Speaker 8: spent the most of our life doing it from the

1130
00:52:56,467 --> 00:52:58,947
Speaker 8: age of seven. But there's that last two to three percent.

1131
00:52:59,067 --> 00:53:01,107
Speaker 8: Like I know you've talked about other since you showed

1132
00:53:01,187 --> 00:53:03,147
Speaker 8: four point of and you said, at that elite level

1133
00:53:03,187 --> 00:53:05,467
Speaker 8: of sport, it's all in the top two percent of

1134
00:53:05,467 --> 00:53:07,707
Speaker 8: your head. And Liam's got that in space.

1135
00:53:07,827 --> 00:53:10,227
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like it. And just to finish on that,

1136
00:53:10,667 --> 00:53:13,627
Speaker 3: like I've never met Liam Lawson. But I've seen a

1137
00:53:13,667 --> 00:53:17,267
Speaker 3: lot of him in media situations and in you know,

1138
00:53:17,507 --> 00:53:21,267
Speaker 3: in racing situations, and he just seems so unaffected by

1139
00:53:21,267 --> 00:53:24,227
Speaker 3: it all, so composed, so down to earth, so key.

1140
00:53:24,267 --> 00:53:28,387
Speaker 3: We really, is that actually the case? He is that authentic?

1141
00:53:29,227 --> 00:53:31,227
Speaker 8: Yes, mate, I've been lucky enough to have been interviewing

1142
00:53:31,267 --> 00:53:35,347
Speaker 8: him since about two thousand and six steam maybe, and

1143
00:53:35,467 --> 00:53:37,267
Speaker 8: also when he went up to China and the F

1144
00:53:37,307 --> 00:53:40,987
Speaker 8: three championship are there very articulate. He's a thinker, but

1145
00:53:41,027 --> 00:53:43,587
Speaker 8: he's not a deep thinker. You know, he gets lost

1146
00:53:43,587 --> 00:53:46,027
Speaker 8: and he goes down his own rabbit holes. He knows

1147
00:53:46,027 --> 00:53:49,227
Speaker 8: what he wants and he's and he's quite single minded,

1148
00:53:49,267 --> 00:53:51,427
Speaker 8: but in a really good way. Unless somebody's got a

1149
00:53:51,427 --> 00:53:54,067
Speaker 8: better option, or a better idea or a better alternative.

1150
00:53:54,747 --> 00:53:57,067
Speaker 8: He has the confidence to go with what he thinks,

1151
00:53:57,747 --> 00:54:00,947
Speaker 8: but he's also got the ability to listen and go okay,

1152
00:54:01,427 --> 00:54:05,227
Speaker 8: that one makes more sense. He handles the media very

1153
00:54:05,307 --> 00:54:07,587
Speaker 8: very well, but mind you's been doing it for a

1154
00:54:07,627 --> 00:54:10,227
Speaker 8: long time. We tend to forget although only at twenty two,

1155
00:54:10,227 --> 00:54:13,587
Speaker 8: he's been in the sport for over ten years, you know,

1156
00:54:13,667 --> 00:54:15,947
Speaker 8: at quite an elite level, and he's got some good

1157
00:54:15,987 --> 00:54:19,907
Speaker 8: people around him, Grant McDonald, Dennis Martin, and he will

1158
00:54:19,907 --> 00:54:22,147
Speaker 8: help them through. He's got a very supportive family.

1159
00:54:22,187 --> 00:54:22,387
Speaker 9: You know.

1160
00:54:22,547 --> 00:54:25,387
Speaker 8: All these again I keep talking about soft skills and

1161
00:54:25,427 --> 00:54:28,787
Speaker 8: it's all this great support network around him. He doesn't

1162
00:54:28,827 --> 00:54:31,587
Speaker 8: have a dad that thinks he knows better than his son.

1163
00:54:31,707 --> 00:54:34,147
Speaker 8: You know, his dad hasn't tried to coach him. His

1164
00:54:34,227 --> 00:54:36,467
Speaker 8: family has made sure they put the right people around

1165
00:54:36,507 --> 00:54:39,627
Speaker 8: him to mentor him and to get him ready for everything.

1166
00:54:39,747 --> 00:54:43,387
Speaker 8: So now it's really here's your chance. You've got there,

1167
00:54:43,827 --> 00:54:45,107
Speaker 8: paul A Pennon, go for it.

1168
00:54:45,787 --> 00:54:48,627
Speaker 3: What an exciting time for him, for his family and

1169
00:54:48,667 --> 00:54:51,627
Speaker 3: for motorsport fans and sports fans here in New Zealand.

1170
00:54:51,707 --> 00:54:53,707
Speaker 3: DT twenty twenty five is going to be quite the

1171
00:54:53,747 --> 00:54:56,147
Speaker 3: watch of off Formula one for us all. Thanks so

1172
00:54:56,227 --> 00:54:59,267
Speaker 3: much for lending us your insight, you're analysis, your expertise.

1173
00:54:59,387 --> 00:55:01,107
Speaker 3: Have a great Christmas, mate, we'll catch up in twenty

1174
00:55:01,107 --> 00:55:01,587
Speaker 3: twenty five.

1175
00:55:02,267 --> 00:55:03,787
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's same to you and your family and all

1176
00:55:03,787 --> 00:55:06,187
Speaker 8: your listeners too. May have a glorious Christmas New Year.

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00:55:06,387 --> 00:55:09,267
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope so. Tot Eric Thompson there with some

1178
00:55:09,347 --> 00:55:13,147
Speaker 3: great insight into Liam Lawson and what success will look

1179
00:55:13,227 --> 00:55:15,747
Speaker 3: like for him next year. What he's up against. The

1180
00:55:15,827 --> 00:55:18,427
Speaker 3: whole team thing with Max for Stappin interests me. And

1181
00:55:18,467 --> 00:55:20,587
Speaker 3: you might have some insight to this, some more. Obviously

1182
00:55:20,747 --> 00:55:22,467
Speaker 3: Eric had some, but you might as well. Oh eight

1183
00:55:22,587 --> 00:55:25,267
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty a textra here for Michael.

1184
00:55:25,307 --> 00:55:28,347
Speaker 3: And you know this proves the point that there is

1185
00:55:28,427 --> 00:55:31,107
Speaker 3: doubt about, you know, whether Liam will be allowed to

1186
00:55:31,227 --> 00:55:34,907
Speaker 3: flex his muscles completely, Mark says Jason. I guarantee Red

1187
00:55:34,907 --> 00:55:38,107
Speaker 3: Bull won't allow Liam to overtake the staffing or win

1188
00:55:38,147 --> 00:55:41,027
Speaker 3: a race in his first year. Team orders will play

1189
00:55:41,027 --> 00:55:43,787
Speaker 3: a big part. It'll be a year of learning and

1190
00:55:43,827 --> 00:55:47,147
Speaker 3: getting some manufacturing points. Come the second season, the gloves

1191
00:55:47,147 --> 00:55:51,667
Speaker 3: will come off. See that's so interesting. I get it,

1192
00:55:51,707 --> 00:55:55,587
Speaker 3: and I understand the whole team dynamic that goes on

1193
00:55:55,627 --> 00:56:01,147
Speaker 3: in Formula One in broad terms. But for example Max

1194
00:56:01,187 --> 00:56:04,267
Speaker 3: for Stappin and Liam Lawson are battling it out for

1195
00:56:04,347 --> 00:56:08,227
Speaker 3: first and second. You know, in the back end of

1196
00:56:08,267 --> 00:56:11,067
Speaker 3: a race, surely they'd say to Liam, hey, give it

1197
00:56:11,067 --> 00:56:13,667
Speaker 3: a crack, mate, give it a crack. Surely Max for

1198
00:56:13,707 --> 00:56:18,307
Speaker 3: Stapen's ego isn't that fragile? And do you have anythink

1199
00:56:18,827 --> 00:56:21,227
Speaker 3: that a driver like Max for Stapan or anyone at

1200
00:56:21,227 --> 00:56:24,107
Speaker 3: the top of their game is going to be scared

1201
00:56:24,147 --> 00:56:27,827
Speaker 3: of a new boy. Wouldn't you want to wouldn't you

1202
00:56:27,827 --> 00:56:29,627
Speaker 3: want to beat your own chest and be the big

1203
00:56:29,707 --> 00:56:33,387
Speaker 3: dog and just hold off the new kid, or at

1204
00:56:33,467 --> 00:56:37,147
Speaker 3: least you know, at least sham that you can or

1205
00:56:37,187 --> 00:56:40,427
Speaker 3: am I totally naive in my thinking around the way

1206
00:56:40,467 --> 00:56:43,547
Speaker 3: that Formula One works? Your views on this, your insight

1207
00:56:43,667 --> 00:56:45,787
Speaker 3: would love it? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1208
00:56:45,867 --> 00:56:50,307
Speaker 3: and just on a wider sort of viewpoint here, how

1209
00:56:50,307 --> 00:56:54,307
Speaker 3: big is this news? It broke as I say, on

1210
00:56:54,467 --> 00:56:56,747
Speaker 3: Thursday night, I think about ten o'clock Thursday night New

1211
00:56:56,827 --> 00:56:59,267
Speaker 3: Zealand time it came through that this was going to

1212
00:56:59,267 --> 00:57:02,947
Speaker 3: be happening in twenty twenty five. It was all over

1213
00:57:03,107 --> 00:57:06,627
Speaker 3: all of the news channels yesterday. It wasn't one that

1214
00:57:06,667 --> 00:57:08,147
Speaker 3: came out of the blue, though, you know, I think

1215
00:57:08,147 --> 00:57:10,907
Speaker 3: we've been sort of working our way towards this point.

1216
00:57:10,907 --> 00:57:14,587
Speaker 3: But now that it's actually happening, now that Liam Lawson

1217
00:57:14,627 --> 00:57:17,347
Speaker 3: is going to be one of only twenty full time

1218
00:57:17,907 --> 00:57:22,507
Speaker 3: Formula One drivers, you know, it's so real, isn't it.

1219
00:57:22,507 --> 00:57:25,907
Speaker 3: It's so real? So your thoughts on Liam Lawson, how

1220
00:57:25,947 --> 00:57:29,387
Speaker 3: big this is? Formula one protocol? Anything you can add

1221
00:57:29,427 --> 00:57:32,147
Speaker 3: to this conversation, would love to hear from you. Oh,

1222
00:57:32,147 --> 00:57:34,827
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty one, twenty three. We're

1223
00:57:34,867 --> 00:57:36,107
Speaker 3: back with your calls right after this.

1224
00:57:36,907 --> 00:57:40,307
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Speaker 3: News Talks the B one twenty six on News Talks,

1227
00:57:47,467 --> 00:57:51,307
Speaker 3: thereb talking Formula one and Liam Lawson Hadley, Hello.

1228
00:57:52,387 --> 00:57:53,227
Speaker 18: Hey, how's the game?

1229
00:57:53,427 --> 00:57:56,067
Speaker 3: Very well? What can you add here to us? How

1230
00:57:56,107 --> 00:57:58,187
Speaker 3: can you how can you increase our understanding on.

1231
00:57:58,147 --> 00:58:01,267
Speaker 18: This great opportunity to let him? It's so sure you

1232
00:58:01,267 --> 00:58:04,427
Speaker 18: know he's got an opportunity to be potentially New Zealand's

1233
00:58:04,467 --> 00:58:09,947
Speaker 18: high paid sports person behind Steve and Edams. Potentially. I

1234
00:58:10,427 --> 00:58:14,467
Speaker 18: remember growing up in in my early years and they

1235
00:58:14,467 --> 00:58:17,867
Speaker 18: were talking about bringing Formula one to Wellington. I was

1236
00:58:17,947 --> 00:58:19,787
Speaker 18: just droving through a custom house key and it'd be

1237
00:58:19,827 --> 00:58:23,067
Speaker 18: nice to see some Formula one cars droving through here

1238
00:58:23,107 --> 00:58:28,227
Speaker 18: instead of all the roadworks of the cycle ways. He

1239
00:58:29,827 --> 00:58:33,947
Speaker 18: definitely got the upper hand over Yuki because Yuki seems

1240
00:58:34,027 --> 00:58:36,467
Speaker 18: to he wants to be the top dog all the time,

1241
00:58:36,707 --> 00:58:39,147
Speaker 18: and so him and Max would have clashed heads from

1242
00:58:39,267 --> 00:58:43,707
Speaker 18: day one. But Liam's got that, you know, the Kiwi

1243
00:58:43,987 --> 00:58:47,987
Speaker 18: attitude where he's willing to work in and make the

1244
00:58:48,027 --> 00:58:52,587
Speaker 18: hard yards to you know, eventually be a hopeful world

1245
00:58:52,667 --> 00:58:56,547
Speaker 18: champion in the future. But Red Bill, they don't really

1246
00:58:56,587 --> 00:58:58,867
Speaker 18: have the same car that they have in the previous years,

1247
00:58:58,867 --> 00:59:00,547
Speaker 18: so he's going to have a bit of a challenge

1248
00:59:00,947 --> 00:59:03,947
Speaker 18: I think coming up through the ranks.

1249
00:59:04,467 --> 00:59:07,067
Speaker 3: Just on Yuki Sonoda Headley, why wouldn't I mean, it's

1250
00:59:07,107 --> 00:59:09,067
Speaker 3: hardly like Yuki Sinoda has been sitting the world on

1251
00:59:09,107 --> 00:59:11,747
Speaker 3: fire right, he hasn't been racing that well, why wouldn't

1252
00:59:11,747 --> 00:59:14,107
Speaker 3: you just rain your ego in a little bit if

1253
00:59:14,147 --> 00:59:15,507
Speaker 3: it meant that you could get a seat in the

1254
00:59:15,507 --> 00:59:17,427
Speaker 3: top team alongside Max for stepan.

1255
00:59:18,427 --> 00:59:20,547
Speaker 18: Oh, he's been trying to, but he's just got their

1256
00:59:21,107 --> 00:59:24,507
Speaker 18: mental attitude of you know, if you're not first, your last.

1257
00:59:25,267 --> 00:59:27,867
Speaker 18: So that's the reason why he's had a few crashes

1258
00:59:27,907 --> 00:59:31,267
Speaker 18: in the last couple of years as he really pushes

1259
00:59:31,307 --> 00:59:33,507
Speaker 18: the car to the limit. And that's good if you,

1260
00:59:33,587 --> 00:59:36,907
Speaker 18: as you say, on a pole position trying to get

1261
00:59:36,947 --> 00:59:41,147
Speaker 18: your qualifying pace up, but through sixty or seventy laps,

1262
00:59:41,307 --> 00:59:44,067
Speaker 18: it's you know, you're playing with fire a lot of

1263
00:59:44,067 --> 00:59:48,027
Speaker 18: the time, and he and he does he grinds the

1264
00:59:48,027 --> 00:59:51,427
Speaker 18: wheelsbeck a bit, so he's not so good at sort

1265
00:59:51,467 --> 00:59:53,587
Speaker 18: of playing the senators.

1266
00:59:54,747 --> 00:59:57,347
Speaker 3: Interesting interesting, So he'll he'll stay in the he'll stay

1267
00:59:57,347 --> 01:00:00,307
Speaker 3: in the in the in the racing balls team mining Sonoda.

1268
01:00:00,867 --> 01:00:04,467
Speaker 3: I see a French Algerian driver, Isaac had jars been added.

1269
01:00:04,507 --> 01:00:08,187
Speaker 3: So what I mean, surely Sonoda will just go out

1270
01:00:08,187 --> 01:00:11,027
Speaker 3: there next year and just try and win racers turn heads.

1271
01:00:11,027 --> 01:00:12,787
Speaker 3: But I mean, what do you predict for him?

1272
01:00:14,427 --> 01:00:16,907
Speaker 18: I think he won't be at Racing Bolsa too long.

1273
01:00:16,947 --> 01:00:19,227
Speaker 18: To be honest, I think it's going to really come

1274
01:00:19,267 --> 01:00:22,507
Speaker 18: down to who Honda decided to partner with in the

1275
01:00:22,547 --> 01:00:26,307
Speaker 18: future coming forward. You know, they've got incredible engines. They've

1276
01:00:26,347 --> 01:00:30,227
Speaker 18: been a part of World Championship vehicles in the past,

1277
01:00:30,307 --> 01:00:33,907
Speaker 18: so I think if they end up partnering with another

1278
01:00:33,987 --> 01:00:36,947
Speaker 18: team that you might see him moving after the contract.

1279
01:00:38,147 --> 01:00:40,747
Speaker 18: It's we talk about Alpine potentially taking on the Honda

1280
01:00:40,787 --> 01:00:45,627
Speaker 18: engines getting away from Reno, so you know, he could

1281
01:00:45,627 --> 01:00:48,507
Speaker 18: always eat up partnering with his old team mate Kesley

1282
01:00:48,627 --> 01:00:50,467
Speaker 18: in the future potentially you never know.

1283
01:00:51,347 --> 01:00:53,987
Speaker 3: Good insight Headley. Hey, thanks for calling through, mate, really

1284
01:00:54,027 --> 01:00:56,987
Speaker 3: appreciate your insight. Merry Christmas, mate. Oh eight hundred and

1285
01:00:57,027 --> 01:00:58,107
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is our number.

1286
01:00:58,187 --> 01:01:03,307
Speaker 17: Hi Dean, Yeah, Merry Christmas. And I agree with that

1287
01:01:03,387 --> 01:01:07,187
Speaker 17: last caller as well. I'm really stokeab Lim. He's only

1288
01:01:07,227 --> 01:01:09,867
Speaker 17: twenty two. The worlds ahead of him and there wouldn't

1289
01:01:09,867 --> 01:01:11,467
Speaker 17: be a key with you. They won't be putting him

1290
01:01:11,467 --> 01:01:14,187
Speaker 17: as he as he moves up the ladder. But I've

1291
01:01:14,187 --> 01:01:17,547
Speaker 17: got a question for you, and mine is what is

1292
01:01:17,827 --> 01:01:21,747
Speaker 17: what is the What is the expertise different between a

1293
01:01:22,067 --> 01:01:25,547
Speaker 17: Lamb laws And and a Chris Dixon. It's not the

1294
01:01:25,667 --> 01:01:30,387
Speaker 17: mental mindset, not of talking about the character. What is

1295
01:01:30,427 --> 01:01:34,547
Speaker 17: the expertise different? In your thoughts between the two?

1296
01:01:35,387 --> 01:01:39,427
Speaker 3: Between Liam lawson and and Chris Dixon.

1297
01:01:40,027 --> 01:01:41,947
Speaker 17: Two different, very similar.

1298
01:01:42,947 --> 01:01:44,987
Speaker 3: Not Chris Amon. You're not talking Chris Aimon.

1299
01:01:46,707 --> 01:01:50,307
Speaker 17: Uh No Dixon, Scott Scott.

1300
01:01:50,107 --> 01:01:53,667
Speaker 3: Scott Dixon, Scott Dixon. Yes, that's all right, No, no, No,

1301
01:01:53,787 --> 01:01:56,147
Speaker 3: I knew would get there eventually done. YEA Chris Dixon

1302
01:01:56,187 --> 01:01:58,667
Speaker 3: was a yo yosse from memory and I was thinking,

1303
01:01:58,827 --> 01:02:04,427
Speaker 3: shiver us did he raised cars. Look clearly Scott Dixon

1304
01:02:04,907 --> 01:02:07,667
Speaker 3: is a you know, an indie car has been so

1305
01:02:07,907 --> 01:02:11,107
Speaker 3: consistently good for so long. Somebody else will have better

1306
01:02:11,107 --> 01:02:12,987
Speaker 3: insight into this team. But it's such a good question,

1307
01:02:13,867 --> 01:02:16,347
Speaker 3: are you asking, I mean you might be asking if

1308
01:02:16,387 --> 01:02:18,787
Speaker 3: Scott Dixon got into an F one car, would he

1309
01:02:18,867 --> 01:02:21,867
Speaker 3: be as good as potentially Liam Lawson will be in

1310
01:02:21,907 --> 01:02:23,747
Speaker 3: an F one car, Because it's an interesting question.

1311
01:02:25,147 --> 01:02:28,267
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean with with six months worth of training

1312
01:02:28,347 --> 01:02:31,347
Speaker 17: between the two, because a different vehicle, different type of track.

1313
01:02:31,667 --> 01:02:35,187
Speaker 17: I'd just be really keen to understand from someone is

1314
01:02:35,227 --> 01:02:40,907
Speaker 17: their difference as Liam Lawson better because of this X

1315
01:02:41,027 --> 01:02:43,507
Speaker 17: y Z. I just don't know. I'm really keen to understand.

1316
01:02:43,547 --> 01:02:46,627
Speaker 17: I'm stated for both of them. Yeah, and doing so

1317
01:02:46,707 --> 01:02:48,507
Speaker 17: well around the world, that's the.

1318
01:02:48,467 --> 01:02:51,027
Speaker 3: Main thing that's so right, Dean, And having Scott McLaughlin

1319
01:02:51,067 --> 01:02:53,427
Speaker 3: there in Indy car now shanevan Gisberg and doing well.

1320
01:02:53,587 --> 01:02:55,667
Speaker 3: It's such a good question and maybe somebody can answer

1321
01:02:55,707 --> 01:02:57,987
Speaker 3: that for us, because they often said I think it

1322
01:02:57,987 --> 01:02:59,827
Speaker 3: was about the gizz about Shamee Van Gisberg, and that

1323
01:02:59,907 --> 01:03:01,547
Speaker 3: it didn't matter. You could put him on a sewing

1324
01:03:01,587 --> 01:03:04,507
Speaker 3: machine and he'd make it go fast, and I get

1325
01:03:04,507 --> 01:03:07,387
Speaker 3: the feeling that Scott Dixon, you know, with so much experience,

1326
01:03:08,187 --> 01:03:10,027
Speaker 3: we could jump into a Formula one car and make

1327
01:03:10,067 --> 01:03:13,227
Speaker 3: it go fast. But clearly it's very different, you know,

1328
01:03:14,227 --> 01:03:16,707
Speaker 3: you know, from driving an F one vehicle to driving

1329
01:03:16,707 --> 01:03:20,427
Speaker 3: a supercar. But the intrinsic driving part of it, I'm

1330
01:03:20,467 --> 01:03:23,507
Speaker 3: sure would be transferable. It'll be all the intricacies that

1331
01:03:23,547 --> 01:03:25,707
Speaker 3: go with it. That's a very broad understanding from me.

1332
01:03:26,067 --> 01:03:27,827
Speaker 3: As I say, Dean, somebody else will have a much

1333
01:03:27,867 --> 01:03:30,467
Speaker 3: more articulate way of putting it. Good to Jenny, mate,

1334
01:03:30,467 --> 01:03:31,667
Speaker 3: thanks for calling in. Jared.

1335
01:03:31,747 --> 01:03:34,507
Speaker 5: Hi, Okay, Ponty, here you go, mate.

1336
01:03:34,547 --> 01:03:37,547
Speaker 3: Good Jared, very good. Thanks mate, that's a story.

1337
01:03:37,547 --> 01:03:39,267
Speaker 5: Great to be back on the radio sport again.

1338
01:03:39,427 --> 01:03:41,147
Speaker 3: Oh well, it's good to have you with us, Jared.

1339
01:03:41,227 --> 01:03:42,227
Speaker 3: It's good to have you along.

1340
01:03:42,267 --> 01:03:42,467
Speaker 21: Mate.

1341
01:03:42,467 --> 01:03:45,027
Speaker 3: Oh this is this Jared. You've got some You've got

1342
01:03:45,027 --> 01:03:46,907
Speaker 3: some Formula one expertise for us today.

1343
01:03:46,947 --> 01:03:54,307
Speaker 5: Mate, I'll try, mate. Look, just great news on Liam

1344
01:03:54,507 --> 01:03:56,867
Speaker 5: and he's done the hard road.

1345
01:03:57,227 --> 01:03:58,187
Speaker 8: He hasn't bought.

1346
01:03:58,067 --> 01:04:01,187
Speaker 5: Any money to the team and he's done the hard way.

1347
01:04:01,227 --> 01:04:05,627
Speaker 5: He thinks for Aaron, and that's a great story. I

1348
01:04:05,667 --> 01:04:09,187
Speaker 5: really hope that he gets off a very good start

1349
01:04:09,747 --> 01:04:12,387
Speaker 5: of the season because it's very important that he starts well.

1350
01:04:12,867 --> 01:04:16,147
Speaker 5: It makes makes the name from South with Max in

1351
01:04:16,147 --> 01:04:19,347
Speaker 5: that car, it doesn't doesn't leave it too late in

1352
01:04:19,347 --> 01:04:23,187
Speaker 5: the season because they're changing engines in twenty twenty twenty

1353
01:04:23,227 --> 01:04:26,467
Speaker 5: six and that they want to make the most of

1354
01:04:26,507 --> 01:04:30,907
Speaker 5: that that that current engine. And I'm really excited for

1355
01:04:30,987 --> 01:04:33,347
Speaker 5: the season he had that finally we might get to

1356
01:04:33,387 --> 01:04:35,867
Speaker 5: hear the New Zealand national anthem on an F one

1357
01:04:35,907 --> 01:04:38,707
Speaker 5: podium that we haven't heard since the late sixties with

1358
01:04:39,067 --> 01:04:39,627
Speaker 5: Deddy Hulm.

1359
01:04:39,827 --> 01:04:42,267
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, wouldn't that be amazing? And you have

1360
01:04:42,307 --> 01:04:44,067
Speaker 3: to think that that he would He'd have to be

1361
01:04:44,107 --> 01:04:45,627
Speaker 3: a chance. He's going to be in a good car,

1362
01:04:46,427 --> 01:04:48,307
Speaker 3: you know, with a good team around. I'm sure Max

1363
01:04:48,347 --> 01:04:52,107
Speaker 3: fstappens the superstar in that Red Bulls team. But I

1364
01:04:52,147 --> 01:04:54,347
Speaker 3: mean it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he

1365
01:04:54,507 --> 01:04:57,467
Speaker 3: that he you know, if circumstances fall his way in

1366
01:04:57,827 --> 01:05:00,467
Speaker 3: a race or two, that he might not imagine if

1367
01:05:00,467 --> 01:05:01,427
Speaker 3: he wins a race.

1368
01:05:01,907 --> 01:05:04,787
Speaker 5: Goodness mae, Well, that's right, pin it And look and

1369
01:05:04,827 --> 01:05:07,787
Speaker 5: that's what I'm really alerding to. He's got to he's

1370
01:05:07,827 --> 01:05:11,107
Speaker 5: got to start well improve that because as we know,

1371
01:05:11,227 --> 01:05:14,027
Speaker 5: team orders can come into play, So he's got to

1372
01:05:14,067 --> 01:05:17,467
Speaker 5: go out there and and really take it to mix

1373
01:05:17,867 --> 01:05:21,347
Speaker 5: and proves that he's there for a reason. I believe

1374
01:05:21,387 --> 01:05:23,987
Speaker 5: he's fast enough, and I think that's he's missed out

1375
01:05:24,347 --> 01:05:27,987
Speaker 5: because you he's not as aggressive as Liam, and Liam

1376
01:05:28,027 --> 01:05:33,467
Speaker 5: shows that races this year. So I really do think

1377
01:05:33,547 --> 01:05:36,507
Speaker 5: Ponnie that it's not out of the realms that we

1378
01:05:36,627 --> 01:05:38,947
Speaker 5: were that we're going to see Liam won a race.

1379
01:05:39,427 --> 01:05:41,107
Speaker 3: How good? How good would that be?

1380
01:05:41,267 --> 01:05:41,507
Speaker 18: Jared?

1381
01:05:41,587 --> 01:05:44,227
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think my colleague does. Wy Wartergrave

1382
01:05:44,307 --> 01:05:47,027
Speaker 3: talked about it as an elbows out type of racing.

1383
01:05:47,027 --> 01:05:48,707
Speaker 3: I know it's a it's a strange analogy when you're

1384
01:05:48,747 --> 01:05:51,067
Speaker 3: driving a car, but yeah, he doesn't like guys getting

1385
01:05:51,067 --> 01:05:52,147
Speaker 3: part of them, and he doesn't mind a bit of

1386
01:05:52,227 --> 01:05:54,707
Speaker 3: push and shove. As Eric Thompson said, best not to

1387
01:05:55,347 --> 01:05:58,147
Speaker 3: crash into your own mate, so best to stay away

1388
01:05:58,147 --> 01:06:00,507
Speaker 3: from the staff. And but yeah, the way he races,

1389
01:06:00,547 --> 01:06:03,627
Speaker 3: the aggression with which he brings, you know, which he

1390
01:06:03,667 --> 01:06:06,027
Speaker 3: brings to his racing is something I'm looking forward to

1391
01:06:06,067 --> 01:06:07,707
Speaker 3: seeing as well. Mate. Great to hear your voice again.

1392
01:06:07,787 --> 01:06:09,667
Speaker 3: Jared got a couple of other calls to get to mate,

1393
01:06:09,707 --> 01:06:11,467
Speaker 3: but good to talk to you. First Grand Prix of

1394
01:06:11,467 --> 01:06:13,947
Speaker 3: the season, incidentally, is the Australian Grand Prix in Melbourne

1395
01:06:14,147 --> 01:06:17,707
Speaker 3: March fourteen through sixteen, so that's the first opportunity we'll see.

1396
01:06:18,067 --> 01:06:20,507
Speaker 3: We'll get to see Liam in the in the top

1397
01:06:20,547 --> 01:06:21,747
Speaker 3: side in twenty twenty five.

1398
01:06:21,827 --> 01:06:24,387
Speaker 7: Cameron, Hi, Okay, Ponnie, how's it going?

1399
01:06:24,507 --> 01:06:24,747
Speaker 10: Very well?

1400
01:06:24,827 --> 01:06:25,507
Speaker 3: Cameron, very well.

1401
01:06:26,667 --> 01:06:26,867
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1402
01:06:26,947 --> 01:06:28,547
Speaker 7: Look, I just want to say I used to work

1403
01:06:28,627 --> 01:06:31,307
Speaker 7: for a company who was a very big batter of

1404
01:06:31,387 --> 01:06:33,987
Speaker 7: him coming up through the ranks, obviously before he's been

1405
01:06:34,027 --> 01:06:36,707
Speaker 7: in and you know, like I think I listened from

1406
01:06:42,387 --> 01:06:49,667
Speaker 7: it like years old and he.

1407
01:06:48,347 --> 01:06:54,307
Speaker 3: Was Hey, Cameron, I'm just having having trouble hearing you. Mate.

1408
01:06:54,307 --> 01:06:56,347
Speaker 3: Have you done something to your phone? Are you still there?

1409
01:07:00,547 --> 01:07:03,027
Speaker 3: Because I really want to hear the story. You're still there, Mate,

1410
01:07:04,747 --> 01:07:06,667
Speaker 3: I'm going to put your back on hold and go

1411
01:07:06,707 --> 01:07:08,467
Speaker 3: to Allison and you just have a quick chat the

1412
01:07:08,507 --> 01:07:10,227
Speaker 3: Cameron see if can get him in a position where

1413
01:07:10,267 --> 01:07:11,067
Speaker 3: he can jet to us.

1414
01:07:11,067 --> 01:07:13,947
Speaker 12: Ellison high sounds like in a submarine.

1415
01:07:13,947 --> 01:07:16,307
Speaker 21: That chap I'm just going to say, and the words

1416
01:07:16,547 --> 01:07:18,907
Speaker 21: and the words of Lizar it's about damn time. I

1417
01:07:18,947 --> 01:07:22,827
Speaker 21: think Liam is inspirational and he's so confident, but he's

1418
01:07:22,827 --> 01:07:26,387
Speaker 21: not arrogant. He's just so likable and he's at the

1419
01:07:26,387 --> 01:07:29,707
Speaker 21: base of the Scott Scott base. I predict that he

1420
01:07:29,747 --> 01:07:31,267
Speaker 21: will get to the top of that mountain, is what

1421
01:07:31,307 --> 01:07:34,227
Speaker 21: I'll say. I think he's going to do really, really well,

1422
01:07:34,267 --> 01:07:36,707
Speaker 21: and I hope he gets right to the very top

1423
01:07:36,907 --> 01:07:40,947
Speaker 21: and gets the good money after that after the first year,

1424
01:07:41,307 --> 01:07:44,307
Speaker 21: then all start getting paid well after that. Sounds like,

1425
01:07:44,387 --> 01:07:45,707
Speaker 21: doesn't that That's what I'm hoping for.

1426
01:07:45,867 --> 01:07:47,627
Speaker 3: Yeah, well sounds I don't think there. I don't think

1427
01:07:47,627 --> 01:07:49,507
Speaker 3: it's that he short of a bothers he Ellison, I

1428
01:07:49,547 --> 01:07:51,627
Speaker 3: think you know Verstapp and earns plenty. I don't think

1429
01:07:51,707 --> 01:07:53,387
Speaker 3: Liam will be on quite that to start with. But no,

1430
01:07:53,507 --> 01:07:55,587
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be I don't think he'll be

1431
01:07:55,667 --> 01:07:57,707
Speaker 3: in any trouble financially if he stays in the in

1432
01:07:57,747 --> 01:07:58,587
Speaker 3: the game for a while.

1433
01:07:59,027 --> 01:07:59,227
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1434
01:07:59,227 --> 01:08:01,507
Speaker 21: And this new heir that he's got, now that's age

1435
01:08:01,507 --> 01:08:03,627
Speaker 21: and he looked about fifteen before now it looks about

1436
01:08:03,627 --> 01:08:05,787
Speaker 21: twenty five. I think that really suits him. That new

1437
01:08:05,827 --> 01:08:06,587
Speaker 21: hair dude.

1438
01:08:07,947 --> 01:08:10,387
Speaker 3: He was he was years he was showing it off

1439
01:08:10,547 --> 01:08:12,347
Speaker 3: wasn't he either he did a modeling shoot or a

1440
01:08:12,387 --> 01:08:15,867
Speaker 3: publicity shoot. Yeah, he's because he's very babyface, doesn't he

1441
01:08:15,867 --> 01:08:19,187
Speaker 3: He looks so young. But yeah, I quite like the haircut.

1442
01:08:19,827 --> 01:08:21,827
Speaker 3: I'd quite like to grow one myself like that. Cameron

1443
01:08:21,907 --> 01:08:26,067
Speaker 3: got your back much better, much better I could hear now.

1444
01:08:27,187 --> 01:08:29,867
Speaker 7: So yeah said, I used to work for a big

1445
01:08:29,947 --> 01:08:34,747
Speaker 7: financial backer of his and he, you know, he came

1446
01:08:34,787 --> 01:08:36,707
Speaker 7: and spoke to us, and he was probably only nineteen

1447
01:08:36,787 --> 01:08:39,507
Speaker 7: or twenty years old back then. But I think, you know,

1448
01:08:39,587 --> 01:08:41,827
Speaker 7: the thing I took from it was old head on

1449
01:08:41,907 --> 01:08:45,147
Speaker 7: young shoulders, and I think it formerly a one. You know,

1450
01:08:45,307 --> 01:08:47,267
Speaker 7: it's what about you can do in the car. Don't

1451
01:08:47,267 --> 01:08:49,387
Speaker 7: get me wrong, but I think that there's a lot

1452
01:08:49,387 --> 01:08:51,427
Speaker 7: of money in that sport and if you, if you

1453
01:08:51,587 --> 01:08:54,987
Speaker 7: present a good image to back it and sponsors, I

1454
01:08:55,027 --> 01:08:56,187
Speaker 7: think that goes a long way.

1455
01:08:56,907 --> 01:08:59,947
Speaker 3: It seems like he's just such a terrific bloke and

1456
01:09:00,027 --> 01:09:02,667
Speaker 3: I know that only goes so far. But as you say, camera,

1457
01:09:03,107 --> 01:09:06,307
Speaker 3: it can't it can't hinder him Canada. It can only help.

1458
01:09:06,387 --> 01:09:08,507
Speaker 3: But if it's the difference between a guy who's a

1459
01:09:08,507 --> 01:09:10,987
Speaker 3: really good driver and a good man again, someone who's

1460
01:09:10,987 --> 01:09:12,307
Speaker 3: a really good driver and a bit of a dick.

1461
01:09:12,747 --> 01:09:14,387
Speaker 3: Then you probably go for the good man, wouldn't you.

1462
01:09:15,507 --> 01:09:18,427
Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, as you say, there's I mean Oracle and

1463
01:09:18,467 --> 01:09:20,427
Speaker 7: they've got a lot of money, you know, Formly one's

1464
01:09:20,667 --> 01:09:23,787
Speaker 7: a big money machine, isn't it. So they want someone

1465
01:09:23,827 --> 01:09:25,507
Speaker 7: they can put him front of sponsors. And I guess

1466
01:09:25,507 --> 01:09:27,787
Speaker 7: it doesn't help that he's he's quite a good looking

1467
01:09:27,827 --> 01:09:29,987
Speaker 7: young fellow and so it probably helped him too, you know.

1468
01:09:30,267 --> 01:09:32,227
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that's probably right. He's a good

1469
01:09:32,267 --> 01:09:33,507
Speaker 3: image for Red Bull.

1470
01:09:33,547 --> 01:09:33,867
Speaker 5: Cameron.

1471
01:09:33,867 --> 01:09:35,387
Speaker 3: Good to chat to you, mate, Thanks for calling in.

1472
01:09:35,947 --> 01:09:38,147
Speaker 3: Good to know that that Liam hasn't changed a lot

1473
01:09:38,187 --> 01:09:40,667
Speaker 3: since since you first met him as young as a

1474
01:09:40,667 --> 01:09:43,867
Speaker 3: young fellow. Mark. Any insight on the whole Formula one

1475
01:09:43,987 --> 01:09:44,827
Speaker 3: V and D car thing.

1476
01:09:46,067 --> 01:09:46,267
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1477
01:09:46,307 --> 01:09:49,307
Speaker 20: Look, the closest I've ever come to have seen hearing

1478
01:09:49,347 --> 01:09:54,067
Speaker 20: an explanation about comparative motorsport was from Simon Krafer, the

1479
01:09:54,227 --> 01:09:59,267
Speaker 20: motorcycle rider in the mid nineties who raced World super

1480
01:09:59,307 --> 01:10:02,587
Speaker 20: Bike in the mid nineties and then he flipped and

1481
01:10:02,667 --> 01:10:05,627
Speaker 20: went to Moto GP, which was called five hundred GP

1482
01:10:05,747 --> 01:10:07,987
Speaker 20: at the time, and he won the British Grand Prix

1483
01:10:08,107 --> 01:10:11,867
Speaker 20: in ninety eight and he was asked what was the

1484
01:10:11,907 --> 01:10:15,787
Speaker 20: difference between a superbike and a motor GP bike and

1485
01:10:15,867 --> 01:10:21,507
Speaker 20: he said violence. Violence. He said the moto GP bike

1486
01:10:21,707 --> 01:10:26,667
Speaker 20: was violence on wheels. You are just getting throwing from

1487
01:10:26,747 --> 01:10:29,267
Speaker 20: one point to another. You just get whereas in the

1488
01:10:29,347 --> 01:10:32,627
Speaker 20: super bike you can sort of see how they go

1489
01:10:32,787 --> 01:10:35,587
Speaker 20: into a curve that's swoop come out on the power.

1490
01:10:36,507 --> 01:10:40,587
Speaker 20: It's a lot, it's quite smooth, whereas a GP bike

1491
01:10:40,667 --> 01:10:42,507
Speaker 20: you can see it big jump from one of them.

1492
01:10:42,547 --> 01:10:46,187
Speaker 20: What that means is the back tire starts things like

1493
01:10:46,227 --> 01:10:49,667
Speaker 20: that where just doing assist right on the edge of adhesion.

1494
01:10:50,347 --> 01:10:55,227
Speaker 20: And the difference between India and that is that India

1495
01:10:55,267 --> 01:10:58,947
Speaker 20: is very smooth, whereas f one, look at the g

1496
01:10:59,107 --> 01:11:03,267
Speaker 20: forces when you're going side to side through s's or

1497
01:11:03,387 --> 01:11:07,947
Speaker 20: you know, very swift movements from left to write or

1498
01:11:08,147 --> 01:11:10,547
Speaker 20: when you hit apexes and still going to one hundred

1499
01:11:10,587 --> 01:11:14,747
Speaker 20: and twenty kilometers an hour things and then you swiftly

1500
01:11:14,827 --> 01:11:19,227
Speaker 20: shift the other direction. That's that's why the next it's

1501
01:11:19,307 --> 01:11:24,187
Speaker 20: all about their necks and Formula one. It's that's the worst.

1502
01:11:24,467 --> 01:11:27,067
Speaker 20: And look, I'll say this about Liam. It's wonderful that

1503
01:11:27,067 --> 01:11:32,107
Speaker 20: people are recognize look in articular handsome. He's a full package.

1504
01:11:32,107 --> 01:11:35,587
Speaker 20: Off the track's absolute full package. He's a dream. If

1505
01:11:35,627 --> 01:11:38,627
Speaker 20: they get him and drive to survive, you forget about it.

1506
01:11:38,867 --> 01:11:43,387
Speaker 20: He's got no ceiling. That's one percent of being a

1507
01:11:43,387 --> 01:11:48,267
Speaker 20: Formula one driver. That's one percent. The other ninety nine

1508
01:11:48,307 --> 01:11:52,227
Speaker 20: percent is what he lays down on the track. Think

1509
01:11:52,267 --> 01:11:54,067
Speaker 20: about that. That's what we need to think about the

1510
01:11:54,107 --> 01:11:56,387
Speaker 20: whole time with this. This may be not for long.

1511
01:11:57,067 --> 01:11:59,667
Speaker 20: New Zealand. Enjoy it while last, but we've got to

1512
01:11:59,667 --> 01:12:03,627
Speaker 20: focus on him winning on this performance, but on track,

1513
01:12:04,307 --> 01:12:06,987
Speaker 20: beyond track, everything off track that will take care of itself.

1514
01:12:07,347 --> 01:12:10,267
Speaker 20: And I hope he's a big personality to go with it,

1515
01:12:10,307 --> 01:12:12,907
Speaker 20: to create at tension in marketing and all that for himself.

1516
01:12:13,067 --> 01:12:16,427
Speaker 20: But it's all about what he lays down on the rubber.

1517
01:12:17,347 --> 01:12:19,987
Speaker 3: Outstanding call, mark outstanding call. Every time I watch him.

1518
01:12:20,027 --> 01:12:21,947
Speaker 3: Next year, I'm going to think of this call and

1519
01:12:21,987 --> 01:12:27,507
Speaker 3: I'm going to think about violence as well. Love it, Mate,

1520
01:12:27,507 --> 01:12:29,427
Speaker 3: thanks for calling it and giving us, giving us that

1521
01:12:29,827 --> 01:12:33,347
Speaker 3: that analysis from Simon Craif and Mate, really appreciate it

1522
01:12:34,027 --> 01:12:36,107
Speaker 3: all right. For Christmas, and to you make and to

1523
01:12:36,147 --> 01:12:39,107
Speaker 3: you as well, my friend nineteen away from so good

1524
01:12:39,147 --> 01:12:42,067
Speaker 3: stuff on Liam Lawson. You can't wait for the IF

1525
01:12:42,107 --> 01:12:46,387
Speaker 3: one season to start in Australia Melbourne March fourteen through sixteen.

1526
01:12:46,667 --> 01:12:48,027
Speaker 3: When we come back, we're in Australia.

1527
01:12:48,027 --> 01:12:48,387
Speaker 8: Actually.

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Speaker 3: Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondent up next.

1529
01:12:51,707 --> 01:12:55,427
Speaker 1: The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

1530
01:12:55,467 --> 01:12:59,387
Speaker 1: Tyne and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder,

1531
01:12:59,467 --> 01:13:00,107
Speaker 1: News Talk.

1532
01:13:00,627 --> 01:13:03,027
Speaker 3: One forty four. Let's get you across the Tasman. Australian

1533
01:13:03,027 --> 01:13:06,627
Speaker 3: correspondent Adam Peacock joins us. So let's start with Test cricket.

1534
01:13:06,627 --> 01:13:10,187
Speaker 3: Adam Australia India tied at one all after three Tests

1535
01:13:10,187 --> 01:13:13,907
Speaker 3: and their five match series. The iconic Boxing Day Test

1536
01:13:13,947 --> 01:13:16,227
Speaker 3: coming up at the Melbourne Cricket Ground starting on Thursday.

1537
01:13:16,267 --> 01:13:18,947
Speaker 3: Is there still the Boxing Day Test, the biggest event

1538
01:13:19,067 --> 01:13:20,907
Speaker 3: of the sporting summer.

1539
01:13:21,667 --> 01:13:24,987
Speaker 16: Yeah, Piney, it's it's look, it's the focal point Day

1540
01:13:24,987 --> 01:13:27,107
Speaker 16: one of the Boxing Day Tests. We get our biggest crowd,

1541
01:13:27,187 --> 01:13:29,507
Speaker 16: probably the biggest crowd you'll get the Test cricket anywhere

1542
01:13:29,507 --> 01:13:32,907
Speaker 16: in the world, say for maybe if they play a

1543
01:13:32,907 --> 01:13:35,667
Speaker 16: massive Test in i Madabad in India one hundred thousand

1544
01:13:35,787 --> 01:13:38,347
Speaker 16: n cGy. I think it's sold out day one already

1545
01:13:38,507 --> 01:13:40,627
Speaker 16: and fair enough too because it's so equently poised this

1546
01:13:40,707 --> 01:13:42,987
Speaker 16: series and now we've got the added storyline of changes

1547
01:13:43,027 --> 01:13:48,147
Speaker 16: to the Australian team. And it is great, this this series,

1548
01:13:48,187 --> 01:13:50,667
Speaker 16: and it's it promised to be great, I should say,

1549
01:13:50,667 --> 01:13:52,707
Speaker 16: and I think it's living up to it with the

1550
01:13:52,707 --> 01:13:53,707
Speaker 16: twist and turn so far.

1551
01:13:53,867 --> 01:13:57,587
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, look here here on the side of the test.

1552
01:13:57,667 --> 01:14:00,147
Speaker 3: When we've been watching it with great interest, you talked

1553
01:14:00,147 --> 01:14:03,267
Speaker 3: about the changes. Nathan McSweeney dropped as an opener and

1554
01:14:03,347 --> 01:14:07,147
Speaker 3: comes nineteen year old Sam Constance. What a what a

1555
01:14:07,227 --> 01:14:09,747
Speaker 3: potential day booth. I imagine walking out to bed on

1556
01:14:09,867 --> 01:14:12,747
Speaker 3: boxing day at the MCG is a nineteen year old

1557
01:14:12,787 --> 01:14:14,027
Speaker 3: What can you tell us about this kid?

1558
01:14:14,627 --> 01:14:17,667
Speaker 16: Yeah, he's been on the radar you talk to and

1559
01:14:17,867 --> 01:14:20,987
Speaker 16: you know New Zealand's favorite son. But hadn't my mate

1560
01:14:21,027 --> 01:14:24,787
Speaker 16: On my Willows podcast he kind of said about eighteen

1561
01:14:24,787 --> 01:14:27,107
Speaker 16: months ago, he said, I'll watch out to this kid

1562
01:14:27,227 --> 01:14:29,587
Speaker 16: who is just blazing a trail in what we call

1563
01:14:29,627 --> 01:14:31,307
Speaker 16: grade cricket over there and I'm sure you all over

1564
01:14:31,387 --> 01:14:34,907
Speaker 16: New Zealand, but level below first class. And he was

1565
01:14:34,947 --> 01:14:38,107
Speaker 16: going up the grade like every like you get promoted

1566
01:14:38,147 --> 01:14:41,267
Speaker 16: to third grade century, second grade century, first Great Century

1567
01:14:41,667 --> 01:14:43,427
Speaker 16: into the New South Wales squad. And he started this

1568
01:14:43,467 --> 01:14:46,747
Speaker 16: summer really really well. He's just he's just a really

1569
01:14:46,827 --> 01:14:50,427
Speaker 16: well balanced cricketer. You know, probably the first time you

1570
01:14:50,467 --> 01:14:53,747
Speaker 16: saw Caine Williamson, the first time we saw Michael Clark.

1571
01:14:54,187 --> 01:14:56,867
Speaker 16: Just go man, he's got a bit, he's got a

1572
01:14:56,867 --> 01:14:58,867
Speaker 16: bit of variation and it all looks bloody good.

1573
01:14:59,347 --> 01:15:01,187
Speaker 9: So he looks like.

1574
01:15:01,147 --> 01:15:03,107
Speaker 16: That at the moment. Of course that the added pressure

1575
01:15:03,147 --> 01:15:06,027
Speaker 16: now comes with temperament and handling setbacks, and you know,

1576
01:15:06,107 --> 01:15:07,467
Speaker 16: some times you're going to get a good ball from

1577
01:15:07,467 --> 01:15:09,027
Speaker 16: Boomer that you're don't do anything about it. You're going

1578
01:15:09,067 --> 01:15:12,467
Speaker 16: to get out and look, he looks like he's a

1579
01:15:12,507 --> 01:15:14,947
Speaker 16: ready made Test player. We don't know he's mature enough

1580
01:15:14,947 --> 01:15:17,147
Speaker 16: to handle this first go at. It remains be seen,

1581
01:15:17,267 --> 01:15:20,347
Speaker 16: but I think everyone over here can't dispute the kid

1582
01:15:20,387 --> 01:15:21,467
Speaker 16: has got a ment talent.

1583
01:15:21,787 --> 01:15:23,867
Speaker 3: I know he hasn't got any runs, Nathan McSweeney, but

1584
01:15:23,907 --> 01:15:26,187
Speaker 3: it's a bit tough on him because Osman Kawaja hasn't

1585
01:15:26,227 --> 01:15:28,267
Speaker 3: exactly said the world on fire, right, has he?

1586
01:15:29,227 --> 01:15:34,507
Speaker 16: Yeah? I reckon he's really harsh for mcsweeny because he's

1587
01:15:34,547 --> 01:15:37,987
Speaker 16: almost been set up not to sail. But it was

1588
01:15:38,027 --> 01:15:40,347
Speaker 16: a hard attach than it needed to be by opening

1589
01:15:40,347 --> 01:15:43,347
Speaker 16: because he's not and they thought, well, he's technique and

1590
01:15:43,387 --> 01:15:45,347
Speaker 16: his sentiment will be able to handle that position. That

1591
01:15:45,867 --> 01:15:48,787
Speaker 16: hasn't worked out that way. Like I said in the

1592
01:15:48,827 --> 01:15:51,147
Speaker 16: last sentence, with coppying a good ball from Boomer and

1593
01:15:51,147 --> 01:15:54,507
Speaker 16: he's capped the field those So yeah, it's hard on him,

1594
01:15:54,507 --> 01:15:56,587
Speaker 16: but I think he's got a future. He's the right age.

1595
01:15:56,627 --> 01:15:58,787
Speaker 16: They like him as a leader, as a captain, as

1596
01:15:58,827 --> 01:16:03,467
Speaker 16: a tactician. He's led some Australia A teams, been promoted

1597
01:16:03,467 --> 01:16:05,747
Speaker 16: to that role. He's only mid twenty, so he's got

1598
01:16:06,187 --> 01:16:09,147
Speaker 16: a well enough times to kind of figure it all

1599
01:16:09,187 --> 01:16:11,187
Speaker 16: out like the Shield Evil and come back a better player.

1600
01:16:11,307 --> 01:16:14,867
Speaker 3: All right, look forward to the Boxing Day Test starting Thursday. Meantime,

1601
01:16:14,947 --> 01:16:18,787
Speaker 3: the Big Bash is underway. Is there still attracting crowds

1602
01:16:18,827 --> 01:16:20,027
Speaker 3: and eyeballs to Big Bash?

1603
01:16:20,907 --> 01:16:24,227
Speaker 16: Yeah? Yeah, I'm getting some good TV numbers and decent

1604
01:16:24,347 --> 01:16:28,667
Speaker 16: enough crowds. I think it's become a part of the

1605
01:16:28,027 --> 01:16:33,347
Speaker 16: summer diet of sport over here that they spread it around.

1606
01:16:33,387 --> 01:16:36,107
Speaker 16: What they did do which was probably smart. They reduced

1607
01:16:36,107 --> 01:16:39,107
Speaker 16: a number of games, so now it feels like each

1608
01:16:39,147 --> 01:16:41,467
Speaker 16: game is a bit more important. So they went I

1609
01:16:41,467 --> 01:16:44,387
Speaker 16: think they went from fourteen to ten. The feedback from

1610
01:16:44,387 --> 01:16:46,147
Speaker 16: the playoff was it just went too long, and it

1611
01:16:46,547 --> 01:16:49,267
Speaker 16: probably did to date into the other cricket over summer.

1612
01:16:49,507 --> 01:16:52,587
Speaker 16: It's weird over here and you probably the same as well.

1613
01:16:52,667 --> 01:16:55,027
Speaker 16: We watch cricket all around the world and we look

1614
01:16:55,067 --> 01:16:56,947
Speaker 16: forward to our summer, but our some only really last

1615
01:16:57,027 --> 01:17:01,187
Speaker 16: two months December, a bit in November, December, January, and

1616
01:17:01,227 --> 01:17:03,107
Speaker 16: then by the end of January. For instance, this year,

1617
01:17:03,147 --> 01:17:07,547
Speaker 16: our Test cricketers have been over in Sri Lanka and

1618
01:17:07,907 --> 01:17:10,227
Speaker 16: focus will be on the women's team playing an ASHES

1619
01:17:10,307 --> 01:17:13,227
Speaker 16: Test in Sogery. So yeah, the big bash. I think

1620
01:17:13,227 --> 01:17:15,107
Speaker 16: they've got it right the calendar now and yeah that

1621
01:17:15,227 --> 01:17:17,907
Speaker 16: they are getting decent crowds around the country, which is

1622
01:17:17,947 --> 01:17:18,427
Speaker 16: great to see.

1623
01:17:18,507 --> 01:17:22,547
Speaker 3: Good to see indeed a big another big event on

1624
01:17:22,587 --> 01:17:25,547
Speaker 3: your sporting calendar, the Australian Tennis Open. I know you're

1625
01:17:25,587 --> 01:17:29,267
Speaker 3: big on this. I see sixteen year old Cruz Hewitt.

1626
01:17:29,587 --> 01:17:31,787
Speaker 3: I recognize the surname. The son of one of your

1627
01:17:31,787 --> 01:17:34,227
Speaker 3: tennis greats, Laton Hewett's got a wild card into qualifying

1628
01:17:34,227 --> 01:17:36,747
Speaker 3: for the Guysie Open. What's the mail on cruz Hewitt

1629
01:17:36,907 --> 01:17:38,707
Speaker 3: and his chances of emulating his old.

1630
01:17:38,547 --> 01:17:42,987
Speaker 16: Man, Yeah, like he's probably got there on merit just about.

1631
01:17:43,427 --> 01:17:46,107
Speaker 16: Look it helps the last name. It helps probably that

1632
01:17:46,387 --> 01:17:48,827
Speaker 16: the old man is the Davis Cup captain and has

1633
01:17:48,867 --> 01:17:52,587
Speaker 16: a a fair bit of sway inside tennis Australia, which

1634
01:17:52,587 --> 01:17:54,667
Speaker 16: a Davis Cup captain should have. By the way, I'm

1635
01:17:54,667 --> 01:17:57,547
Speaker 16: not saying there's anything wrong with that. So yeah, look

1636
01:17:57,827 --> 01:18:00,067
Speaker 16: he's been around the place in junior's for the last

1637
01:18:00,227 --> 01:18:02,187
Speaker 16: couple of years and he's showing a bit, so yeah,

1638
01:18:02,267 --> 01:18:04,627
Speaker 16: chuck him in and as long as it's fair and

1639
01:18:04,667 --> 01:18:08,147
Speaker 16: equitable for the other two years of his standard getting

1640
01:18:08,387 --> 01:18:10,507
Speaker 16: the same treatment, which has been the case over the

1641
01:18:10,587 --> 01:18:13,627
Speaker 16: last ten years. I'm having having investigated the exact breakdown

1642
01:18:13,707 --> 01:18:16,147
Speaker 16: for this one. Don't have a problem with it that

1643
01:18:16,547 --> 01:18:19,387
Speaker 16: he's you know, he's a big kid, he's I think

1644
01:18:19,387 --> 01:18:21,307
Speaker 16: he's already tooled and he's old man, so he's over

1645
01:18:21,347 --> 01:18:23,667
Speaker 16: stick foot and you know, he looks to have the

1646
01:18:23,907 --> 01:18:25,827
Speaker 16: attributes and whether or not he's good enough, we'll soon

1647
01:18:25,867 --> 01:18:29,867
Speaker 16: find out. It's a totally different things to proper Open

1648
01:18:29,947 --> 01:18:35,747
Speaker 16: tennis in women's and men's with tennis. So yeah, it's

1649
01:18:35,747 --> 01:18:38,067
Speaker 16: a big, big step sore how he goes and shouldn't

1650
01:18:38,067 --> 01:18:40,827
Speaker 16: be judged on whatever happens in his result. He's profound qualifying.

1651
01:18:40,947 --> 01:18:43,027
Speaker 3: Yeah, I often wonder about the burden of a surname,

1652
01:18:43,387 --> 01:18:45,867
Speaker 3: you know, and look, there's no getting away from it.

1653
01:18:45,867 --> 01:18:49,347
Speaker 3: He's late on Ewart's Boy. But yeah, I wonder sometimes

1654
01:18:50,707 --> 01:18:53,267
Speaker 3: whether guys like Herm and others would just prefer if

1655
01:18:53,307 --> 01:18:55,507
Speaker 3: they had, you know, a different name or a name

1656
01:18:55,547 --> 01:18:58,667
Speaker 3: that wasn't so synonymous with the sport that they're trying

1657
01:18:58,667 --> 01:18:59,467
Speaker 3: to pave their way in.

1658
01:19:00,067 --> 01:19:02,907
Speaker 16: Well, it's the easiest thing to say for us. Mug

1659
01:19:02,987 --> 01:19:05,067
Speaker 16: Punter's watching for the first time. You know, he's not

1660
01:19:05,067 --> 01:19:08,347
Speaker 16: as good as his old man. It's like, that's just

1661
01:19:08,387 --> 01:19:10,187
Speaker 16: a flip and comment. We've turned the TV off and

1662
01:19:10,467 --> 01:19:12,787
Speaker 16: and forget about it. To the kid, it would deeply hurt.

1663
01:19:12,907 --> 01:19:16,907
Speaker 16: So yeah, what judgment against what someone else did twenty

1664
01:19:17,067 --> 01:19:19,787
Speaker 16: thirty years ago is completely irrelevant in my eyes. So

1665
01:19:19,987 --> 01:19:21,587
Speaker 16: I'm interested to see how it goes and what kind

1666
01:19:21,587 --> 01:19:22,147
Speaker 16: of game he's got.

1667
01:19:22,227 --> 01:19:24,187
Speaker 3: Indeed, hey, this wasn't on the list, but the Melbourne

1668
01:19:24,227 --> 01:19:27,147
Speaker 3: Derby tonight in the A League. Means. The backdrop of this,

1669
01:19:27,187 --> 01:19:29,627
Speaker 3: of course, is that Melbourne victory coach Patrick is Norbo

1670
01:19:29,747 --> 01:19:32,627
Speaker 3: has up and left the club half a dozen games

1671
01:19:32,627 --> 01:19:35,427
Speaker 3: into the new season. He's only just taken over. What's

1672
01:19:35,467 --> 01:19:36,507
Speaker 3: the reaction being to this.

1673
01:19:37,147 --> 01:19:40,547
Speaker 16: Yeah, En kind, that's a bit of thanks for a matchipuddy,

1674
01:19:40,627 --> 01:19:43,227
Speaker 16: But look, it's an opportunity overseas. It's to be an

1675
01:19:43,227 --> 01:19:47,387
Speaker 16: assistant at Yokohama. That's where a Kevin Musket and Harry

1676
01:19:47,467 --> 01:19:50,027
Speaker 16: Keule has been and John Hudson recently. John Hudson just

1677
01:19:50,307 --> 01:19:51,787
Speaker 16: the f now and if they've got a job in

1678
01:19:51,867 --> 01:19:54,867
Speaker 16: J two yesterday, so he moved on from Yokarma. But yeah,

1679
01:19:55,867 --> 01:19:58,627
Speaker 16: kind of unfortunately points toward what's going on with the

1680
01:19:58,627 --> 01:20:01,787
Speaker 16: A League in a wider sense. The more attractive proposition

1681
01:20:01,867 --> 01:20:04,027
Speaker 16: financially and career wife to go and be an assistant

1682
01:20:04,067 --> 01:20:05,707
Speaker 16: in the J League rather than the head coach or

1683
01:20:05,707 --> 01:20:08,147
Speaker 16: one of the biggest CLIs. That's just the facts of

1684
01:20:08,187 --> 01:20:11,867
Speaker 16: the matter, unfortunately. But yeah, it melted the victory in

1685
01:20:11,907 --> 01:20:13,587
Speaker 16: a bit of a whole. So they've got the assistant

1686
01:20:14,147 --> 01:20:16,827
Speaker 16: Art Dolls kind of taking over to deny on that

1687
01:20:16,947 --> 01:20:19,547
Speaker 16: to believe, but I'll find someone that will be fine.

1688
01:20:19,667 --> 01:20:22,187
Speaker 16: It's just a bit of workout for Christmas that the

1689
01:20:22,227 --> 01:20:23,907
Speaker 16: crew at Melbourn Victory had to do. That they didn't

1690
01:20:23,907 --> 01:20:26,187
Speaker 16: think they had to do it, So I don't think

1691
01:20:26,187 --> 01:20:28,947
Speaker 16: it's impressed a lot of people like players and fans

1692
01:20:29,067 --> 01:20:31,267
Speaker 16: and fair enough too. He's just kind of up and left.

1693
01:20:31,627 --> 01:20:33,787
Speaker 3: Yeah, but weird, a bit odd, but yeah, I understand

1694
01:20:33,827 --> 01:20:36,147
Speaker 3: the backdrop to it. As you say, the financial side

1695
01:20:36,147 --> 01:20:38,987
Speaker 3: of it is probably easy to understand if, even if

1696
01:20:39,027 --> 01:20:41,907
Speaker 3: you don't necessarily agree with the decision that he's made.

1697
01:20:41,947 --> 01:20:43,347
Speaker 3: All right, Adam, Well, I know you've got a bit

1698
01:20:43,387 --> 01:20:45,547
Speaker 3: of pre Christmas work to do as well, apart from

1699
01:20:45,747 --> 01:20:47,587
Speaker 3: chatting sport with me, So I wish you and your

1700
01:20:47,587 --> 01:20:49,467
Speaker 3: family all the best for the first of season. Look

1701
01:20:49,507 --> 01:20:50,707
Speaker 3: forward to catching up in the new year.

1702
01:20:51,227 --> 01:20:54,587
Speaker 16: Thanks Piney. I'm actually my Christmas present myself today is

1703
01:20:54,667 --> 01:20:57,987
Speaker 16: cleaning the house. And when I say by cleaning the house,

1704
01:20:58,107 --> 01:21:01,787
Speaker 16: it's actually getting the house the outside the facade of

1705
01:21:01,827 --> 01:21:04,747
Speaker 16: the house cleaned. So yeah, high pressure hose.

1706
01:21:04,987 --> 01:21:08,227
Speaker 3: Wow, oh mate, look at better you than me. Good

1707
01:21:08,307 --> 01:21:10,187
Speaker 3: luck with that and we'll see you next year.

1708
01:21:10,787 --> 01:21:12,707
Speaker 16: Can't wait, mate, If there is a next year after.

1709
01:21:12,547 --> 01:21:19,827
Speaker 3: This, head and peacock after Cleaner's House, our Australian correspondent

1710
01:21:19,907 --> 01:21:22,507
Speaker 3: right across the year and returning in twenty twenty five,

1711
01:21:22,587 --> 01:21:25,787
Speaker 3: seven and a half away from two. A quick update

1712
01:21:25,827 --> 01:21:28,867
Speaker 3: from the basin two hundred and twenty eight for six.

1713
01:21:29,227 --> 01:21:32,707
Speaker 3: Two hundred and twenty eight for six. Australia batting first

1714
01:21:32,747 --> 01:21:35,707
Speaker 3: against New Zealand. They are through forty three and a

1715
01:21:35,747 --> 01:21:39,987
Speaker 3: bit overs so up over five now approaching five and

1716
01:21:40,067 --> 01:21:42,427
Speaker 3: a half, so they're starting to put the pace on

1717
01:21:42,467 --> 01:21:45,347
Speaker 3: a little bit. Australia batting first against our white ferns

1718
01:21:45,387 --> 01:21:47,107
Speaker 3: at the basement reserve back in a moment on Weekend

1719
01:21:47,107 --> 01:21:48,827
Speaker 3: Sport when it's.

1720
01:21:48,667 --> 01:21:51,227
Speaker 1: Down to the line. You made a call on eight

1721
01:21:51,347 --> 01:21:55,187
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Hine, News

1722
01:21:55,227 --> 01:21:55,987
Speaker 1: Talk ZEV.

1723
01:21:56,147 --> 01:21:57,907
Speaker 3: Four to two after I used it too in case

1724
01:21:57,947 --> 01:21:59,467
Speaker 3: she missed it. Catching you up on some of the

1725
01:21:59,467 --> 01:22:02,707
Speaker 3: stuff which you may have missed in the in the

1726
01:22:02,707 --> 01:22:06,547
Speaker 3: the clamor for Christmas presents and other things, Awkland see

1727
01:22:06,547 --> 01:22:08,907
Speaker 3: you back at home this afternoon hosting Western United five

1728
01:22:08,907 --> 01:22:13,187
Speaker 3: o'clock kick off at go Media Stadium. Fallback Callen Elliott

1729
01:22:13,187 --> 01:22:15,627
Speaker 3: ahead of that one. The Christmas Carnival is back at

1730
01:22:15,667 --> 01:22:19,227
Speaker 3: Allesley Racecourse this summer Boxing Day in New Year's Day

1731
01:22:19,267 --> 01:22:23,067
Speaker 3: at the races. CEO of Auckland Thoroughbred Racing Paul Wilcox

1732
01:22:23,107 --> 01:22:26,747
Speaker 3: with us on that and three time Paralympic medallist and

1733
01:22:27,187 --> 01:22:31,827
Speaker 3: five time Paralympian Dave mckelman has a book out. He's

1734
01:22:31,867 --> 01:22:33,507
Speaker 3: going to join us to chat about that and to

1735
01:22:33,587 --> 01:22:35,307
Speaker 3: reminis a bit after two as well.

1736
01:22:36,347 --> 01:22:40,587
Speaker 2: The only plays for the big names, the big issues,

1737
01:22:41,267 --> 01:22:46,227
Speaker 2: the big controversies and the big conversations kids all on

1738
01:22:46,307 --> 01:22:50,067
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport with Jason him on your home of Sport

1739
01:22:50,547 --> 01:22:51,147
Speaker 2: News Talks.

1740
01:22:51,187 --> 01:22:51,427
Speaker 1: It'd be.

1741
01:22:53,267 --> 01:22:55,627
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show, Welcome into the show. Great

1742
01:22:55,627 --> 01:22:58,867
Speaker 3: to have you with us. As Christmas rushes towards us.

1743
01:22:59,227 --> 01:23:01,787
Speaker 3: Hopefully we can give you something else to think about

1744
01:23:02,907 --> 01:23:07,427
Speaker 3: other than who you haven't got presents for, who's doing

1745
01:23:07,467 --> 01:23:10,027
Speaker 3: what on Christmas Day, as far as the food is concerned,

1746
01:23:10,907 --> 01:23:13,347
Speaker 3: and other things that tend to be top of mind

1747
01:23:13,347 --> 01:23:17,187
Speaker 3: at this time of the year. We can distract you

1748
01:23:17,227 --> 01:23:19,267
Speaker 3: with a bit of sport and a bit of variety.

1749
01:23:19,307 --> 01:23:21,467
Speaker 3: That's our Callan Elliott out of Auckland f C going

1750
01:23:21,507 --> 01:23:24,907
Speaker 3: to join us. Western United are their opposition this afternoon

1751
01:23:24,947 --> 01:23:28,867
Speaker 3: at go Media Stadium in Penrose, Auckland. How are they

1752
01:23:29,307 --> 01:23:32,587
Speaker 3: shaping up as they look to continue their unbeaten start

1753
01:23:32,667 --> 01:23:35,707
Speaker 3: to life as an A league football team. Also going

1754
01:23:35,747 --> 01:23:40,747
Speaker 3: to chat to Paul Wilcox, the CEO of Auckland Thoroughbred Racing,

1755
01:23:41,427 --> 01:23:45,947
Speaker 3: because after a four year absence, the Christmas Carnival's back

1756
01:23:46,307 --> 01:23:50,547
Speaker 3: at Allesley this summer, Boxing Day races, New Year's Day races.

1757
01:23:51,987 --> 01:23:54,667
Speaker 3: They were a fixture on the calendar, weren't they for

1758
01:23:54,707 --> 01:23:56,987
Speaker 3: a long long time, but haven't been there for four years.

1759
01:23:56,987 --> 01:23:59,707
Speaker 3: They're back, So Paul Wilcox on that. And three time

1760
01:23:59,747 --> 01:24:02,747
Speaker 3: Paralympic medalist for New Zealand Dave mckelman going to have

1761
01:24:02,787 --> 01:24:04,827
Speaker 3: a chat to us as he reminisces on his career.

1762
01:24:05,267 --> 01:24:09,347
Speaker 3: He won Paralympic meds and javelin and pentathlon and has

1763
01:24:09,387 --> 01:24:13,467
Speaker 3: coached both able bodied and disability sport in the time since,

1764
01:24:13,507 --> 01:24:15,987
Speaker 3: and actually while he was still competing himself. He's had

1765
01:24:16,227 --> 01:24:18,627
Speaker 3: quite the time of things. Dave mckelman, he's got a

1766
01:24:18,667 --> 01:24:20,947
Speaker 3: book out. Going to chat about that with him and

1767
01:24:21,067 --> 01:24:23,507
Speaker 3: we'll keep updated or keep you updated on Live Sport.

1768
01:24:23,547 --> 01:24:25,747
Speaker 3: In fact, let's do that now. Australia two fifty five

1769
01:24:25,827 --> 01:24:28,467
Speaker 3: for seven and the forty eighth over. This is Rose

1770
01:24:28,507 --> 01:24:32,987
Speaker 3: Bowlt One Day International cricket at the Basin Reserve, Australia

1771
01:24:33,027 --> 01:24:37,187
Speaker 3: two fifty five for seven. Best of the bowl is

1772
01:24:37,187 --> 01:24:40,227
Speaker 3: for New Zealand Molly Penfold. I think before today Molly

1773
01:24:40,547 --> 01:24:42,787
Speaker 3: Penfold had only taken five or six wickets for New

1774
01:24:42,867 --> 01:24:46,947
Speaker 3: Zealand four for forty two today easily her best return

1775
01:24:46,987 --> 01:24:51,787
Speaker 3: at international level. Annabelle Sutherland is out there for Australia

1776
01:24:51,827 --> 01:24:54,107
Speaker 3: at the moment, seventy eight or seventy one balls and

1777
01:24:54,827 --> 01:24:56,747
Speaker 3: doing a bit of damage. She's just at Eden Carson

1778
01:24:57,107 --> 01:25:00,347
Speaker 3: for a big six down the ground. So two fifty

1779
01:25:00,507 --> 01:25:04,347
Speaker 3: six now for seven Australia with just over two overs

1780
01:25:04,347 --> 01:25:06,747
Speaker 3: to go at the Basin Reserve. We will keep you

1781
01:25:06,827 --> 01:25:08,507
Speaker 3: right up to date with that. We've had some great

1782
01:25:08,507 --> 01:25:11,147
Speaker 3: discussion this afternoon on where the home of cricket is,

1783
01:25:11,227 --> 01:25:14,587
Speaker 3: on how Liam Lawson might go in twenty twenty five,

1784
01:25:14,667 --> 01:25:17,827
Speaker 3: and the differences between the various motorsport classes. So we'll

1785
01:25:17,907 --> 01:25:20,307
Speaker 3: keep the lines open on anything that catches you're ep

1786
01:25:20,347 --> 01:25:23,387
Speaker 3: oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two ninety two.

1787
01:25:23,387 --> 01:25:26,427
Speaker 3: If you would prefer to correspond with us by text.

1788
01:25:26,507 --> 01:25:28,547
Speaker 3: But as we always do it arount this time nine

1789
01:25:28,587 --> 01:25:30,627
Speaker 3: past two. It is let's catch you up on some

1790
01:25:30,627 --> 01:25:33,147
Speaker 3: of the stuff you mid have missed in case you

1791
01:25:33,307 --> 01:25:35,387
Speaker 3: missed it, as the name of the feature, and the

1792
01:25:35,427 --> 01:25:38,747
Speaker 3: Breakers kick us off. They can't catch a break. In

1793
01:25:38,787 --> 01:25:42,387
Speaker 3: the Australian National Basketball League they went down again. This

1794
01:25:42,507 --> 01:25:46,107
Speaker 3: time it's Spark Arena to the Sydney Kings to Sydney

1795
01:25:46,187 --> 01:25:51,347
Speaker 3: Kings down nine, down seven, that's separate parts of the

1796
01:25:51,387 --> 01:25:54,907
Speaker 3: ball game. Refuse to quit. They're going to get themselves

1797
01:25:55,267 --> 01:25:58,507
Speaker 3: another ninety to eighty four the Kings over the Breakers,

1798
01:25:58,547 --> 01:26:02,467
Speaker 3: who have now lost seven straight games to the a League.

1799
01:26:02,507 --> 01:26:06,027
Speaker 3: Men's Sydney FC have saved a point at the very

1800
01:26:06,107 --> 01:26:08,827
Speaker 3: deare against Adelaide United. They were three to one down,

1801
01:26:09,347 --> 01:26:11,307
Speaker 3: brought it back to three to two and then this

1802
01:26:11,587 --> 01:26:15,547
Speaker 3: deep into added time the penalty box awaiting bosses delivery.

1803
01:26:15,947 --> 01:26:21,107
Speaker 22: Nice card is three three John twenty Perkins with fifteen

1804
01:26:21,347 --> 01:26:25,787
Speaker 22: seconds left on the watch and Sydney have snatched the

1805
01:26:25,907 --> 01:26:26,987
Speaker 22: points right.

1806
01:26:26,947 --> 01:26:27,467
Speaker 9: At the end.

1807
01:26:28,547 --> 01:26:32,387
Speaker 3: Extraordinary have finished three to three. There staying in Australia

1808
01:26:32,427 --> 01:26:36,467
Speaker 3: in the Big Bash, Adam Milne's Melbourne Stars still looking

1809
01:26:36,507 --> 01:26:39,387
Speaker 3: for their first win going down to Adelaide. Karen cards

1810
01:26:39,427 --> 01:26:40,587
Speaker 3: it away over the offside.

1811
01:26:40,707 --> 01:26:41,467
Speaker 12: It's time.

1812
01:26:43,307 --> 01:26:47,627
Speaker 3: Charlie's game done. That's right. Next day home and get

1813
01:26:47,747 --> 01:26:51,627
Speaker 3: the weekin and to the dance at Ali Paley in London.

1814
01:26:51,667 --> 01:26:55,587
Speaker 3: We've had our first nine data of this year's World Championship.

1815
01:26:55,707 --> 01:27:01,187
Speaker 3: Supplied delivered by Dutchman Christian kissed crowd Right.

1816
01:27:02,307 --> 01:27:15,787
Speaker 23: Christian kissed Cunny deliver biggest stageable, perfect look at this

1817
01:27:15,987 --> 01:27:19,667
Speaker 23: yes shot said Honey, doesn't to take them off?

1818
01:27:19,747 --> 01:27:25,987
Speaker 1: Nick sept The singing, the police, the schoons from the track,

1819
01:27:26,107 --> 01:27:29,347
Speaker 1: field and the court on your home of sport Weekend

1820
01:27:29,467 --> 01:27:31,987
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vine talks.

1821
01:27:31,947 --> 01:27:36,507
Speaker 3: B the darts ow good eleven past to Auckland FC

1822
01:27:36,747 --> 01:27:38,827
Speaker 3: have their latest game in the A League means this

1823
01:27:38,947 --> 01:27:42,747
Speaker 3: afternoon they're back home at go Media Stadium in Auckland.

1824
01:27:43,267 --> 01:27:46,387
Speaker 3: Unbeaten so far and with a one hundred percent winning

1825
01:27:46,467 --> 01:27:49,907
Speaker 3: record at home, they take on Western United five o'clock

1826
01:27:49,987 --> 01:27:53,987
Speaker 3: kickoff at go Media Stadium, Auckland f C. Fallback Callan

1827
01:27:54,107 --> 01:27:56,587
Speaker 3: Elliott joins us thanks for taking taking our call on

1828
01:27:56,627 --> 01:27:59,227
Speaker 3: match day, Callen. Before we look ahead to this afternoon,

1829
01:27:59,307 --> 01:28:01,147
Speaker 3: how happy with the coaching staff in the playe group

1830
01:28:01,227 --> 01:28:05,027
Speaker 3: in fact, with the two to draw away at Melbourne

1831
01:28:05,067 --> 01:28:05,947
Speaker 3: City last time out.

1832
01:28:07,107 --> 01:28:09,467
Speaker 24: Yeah, I mean, I think in the end it was

1833
01:28:09,547 --> 01:28:12,267
Speaker 24: a it was a good result. You know, that first

1834
01:28:12,387 --> 01:28:15,987
Speaker 24: half we didn't really play up to the standard that

1835
01:28:16,067 --> 01:28:19,107
Speaker 24: we can play. We didn't really have any control over

1836
01:28:19,187 --> 01:28:22,147
Speaker 24: the game. So you know, showing the characters to come

1837
01:28:22,227 --> 01:28:25,627
Speaker 24: back from one nil down after that half and even

1838
01:28:25,667 --> 01:28:30,707
Speaker 24: almost getting the win, I think overall we're pretty happy

1839
01:28:30,747 --> 01:28:31,267
Speaker 24: with the result.

1840
01:28:31,787 --> 01:28:33,787
Speaker 3: And one kneel down and then two one down and

1841
01:28:33,867 --> 01:28:36,147
Speaker 3: even getting quite late in the game at two one down.

1842
01:28:36,747 --> 01:28:39,227
Speaker 3: What sorts of conversations were going on out there?

1843
01:28:41,187 --> 01:28:45,307
Speaker 24: I mean that second half we were we were the

1844
01:28:45,507 --> 01:28:49,787
Speaker 24: better team, so we knew we knew we could.

1845
01:28:51,187 --> 01:28:51,827
Speaker 10: Get goals.

1846
01:28:52,027 --> 01:28:55,507
Speaker 24: It was just when and yeah, we just we just

1847
01:28:56,387 --> 01:28:59,867
Speaker 24: kept pushing toil the final whistle and thankfully, mate, I

1848
01:29:00,027 --> 01:29:01,067
Speaker 24: got that free kick.

1849
01:29:02,067 --> 01:29:04,827
Speaker 3: So you've started and played ninety minutes and two of

1850
01:29:04,907 --> 01:29:07,387
Speaker 3: the last three games, including last week against Melbourne City.

1851
01:29:07,827 --> 01:29:10,027
Speaker 3: How happy have you been with your performances in those games.

1852
01:29:11,867 --> 01:29:18,107
Speaker 24: Yeah, I've been fairly happy. Defancifully, I thought I've been

1853
01:29:18,507 --> 01:29:22,667
Speaker 24: pretty strong. I haven't been able to get up the

1854
01:29:22,747 --> 01:29:26,667
Speaker 24: pitch as much as I usually do. I think just

1855
01:29:27,467 --> 01:29:33,267
Speaker 24: I'm not fully match f you know, coming in after

1856
01:29:33,387 --> 01:29:37,347
Speaker 24: not playing for the first however many games, so I

1857
01:29:37,427 --> 01:29:38,347
Speaker 24: think that's going to come.

1858
01:29:39,387 --> 01:29:40,867
Speaker 10: Yeah, but overall pretty happy.

1859
01:29:41,227 --> 01:29:43,067
Speaker 3: How much of an attacking brief do you have in

1860
01:29:43,147 --> 01:29:45,427
Speaker 3: that role? Obviously it's a it's a it's part of

1861
01:29:45,467 --> 01:29:47,947
Speaker 3: the back four. Defense is the is the core part

1862
01:29:47,987 --> 01:29:50,107
Speaker 3: of it. But how much of an attacking brief do

1863
01:29:50,267 --> 01:29:52,787
Speaker 3: you have as a fallback under under Steve Corricer's system.

1864
01:29:53,867 --> 01:29:58,227
Speaker 10: Yeah, he likes our our fullbacks game for it.

1865
01:29:58,347 --> 01:30:02,067
Speaker 24: He wants us getting balls into the box and you

1866
01:30:02,147 --> 01:30:04,747
Speaker 24: know when we when we don't have the ball, when

1867
01:30:04,787 --> 01:30:06,587
Speaker 24: we do have the ball, sorry and we're are in

1868
01:30:06,667 --> 01:30:08,987
Speaker 24: the box, he wants is right up there, you know.

1869
01:30:10,907 --> 01:30:14,227
Speaker 24: So yeah, the attack and for it's very attack and

1870
01:30:14,347 --> 01:30:15,507
Speaker 24: minded the fullbacks.

1871
01:30:16,387 --> 01:30:19,907
Speaker 3: And in this Auckland f C set up, you obviously

1872
01:30:19,987 --> 01:30:23,267
Speaker 3: play in the same position as as the captain Hiroki Sakai.

1873
01:30:23,947 --> 01:30:27,027
Speaker 3: He's obviously at the moment covering for the absence of

1874
01:30:27,107 --> 01:30:30,107
Speaker 3: Dan Hall. But how do you approach something like that

1875
01:30:30,267 --> 01:30:32,507
Speaker 3: when when the captain of the side plays in the

1876
01:30:32,547 --> 01:30:33,547
Speaker 3: same position that you do.

1877
01:30:35,067 --> 01:30:37,427
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean can it can be tough?

1878
01:30:37,627 --> 01:30:45,027
Speaker 24: Obviously he is very strong competition, but you know, it's

1879
01:30:45,147 --> 01:30:47,187
Speaker 24: just you're just going to be ready for when your

1880
01:30:47,307 --> 01:30:50,147
Speaker 24: chance comes. You know. I go into training every day,

1881
01:30:51,507 --> 01:30:53,347
Speaker 24: train as hard as I can, you know, do the

1882
01:30:53,427 --> 01:30:56,387
Speaker 24: right things so when my opportunity does come like no,

1883
01:30:56,627 --> 01:30:58,027
Speaker 24: then I'm ready to play.

1884
01:30:58,587 --> 01:31:00,787
Speaker 3: And in terms of that fitness, Kellen, I mean, how

1885
01:31:00,827 --> 01:31:02,867
Speaker 3: far away do you think you are from from being

1886
01:31:02,947 --> 01:31:05,827
Speaker 3: at at your peak, where you're where you're happy fitness

1887
01:31:05,867 --> 01:31:07,867
Speaker 3: wise in terms of the match fit or something.

1888
01:31:09,627 --> 01:31:12,747
Speaker 24: I'm almost there basically there already.

1889
01:31:12,787 --> 01:31:15,587
Speaker 10: I just need a couple couple of games.

1890
01:31:15,667 --> 01:31:21,067
Speaker 24: Obviously, if you go into the first match starting from preseason,

1891
01:31:21,107 --> 01:31:25,027
Speaker 24: you're pretty fit from preseason, but obviously trainings cam down

1892
01:31:25,067 --> 01:31:27,227
Speaker 24: a bit when the season starts, so you lose a

1893
01:31:27,267 --> 01:31:30,067
Speaker 24: bit when you're not playing. So it only takes a

1894
01:31:30,147 --> 01:31:33,027
Speaker 24: couple of matches to get get back up to full fitness.

1895
01:31:33,547 --> 01:31:35,027
Speaker 3: So you're back in the I League now. You left

1896
01:31:35,067 --> 01:31:37,587
Speaker 3: Wellington at the back end or after the twenty twenty

1897
01:31:37,627 --> 01:31:40,707
Speaker 3: two to twenty three season signed with Motherwell in Scotland

1898
01:31:40,747 --> 01:31:43,267
Speaker 3: but didn't get any minutes there. How do you reflect

1899
01:31:43,307 --> 01:31:45,987
Speaker 3: on the last eighteen months before you joined Auckland FC.

1900
01:31:47,507 --> 01:31:51,027
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it was. It was a tough, tough

1901
01:31:51,107 --> 01:31:51,867
Speaker 10: time to be honest.

1902
01:31:52,067 --> 01:31:57,427
Speaker 24: I didn't go the way I'd hoped for, but you

1903
01:31:57,467 --> 01:32:01,667
Speaker 24: know it was a good experience, even just training with

1904
01:32:01,827 --> 01:32:08,747
Speaker 24: a Scottish prem club. Yeah, but you know, I'm super

1905
01:32:08,787 --> 01:32:11,507
Speaker 24: happy being back now and I'm getting some minutes, so

1906
01:32:12,227 --> 01:32:13,867
Speaker 24: I'm really enjoying my football just now.

1907
01:32:14,387 --> 01:32:17,547
Speaker 3: Was it a pretty easy yes, when Auckland FC knocked

1908
01:32:17,587 --> 01:32:17,987
Speaker 3: on your door?

1909
01:32:19,227 --> 01:32:23,667
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, of course you know the owner Bill, He's

1910
01:32:23,747 --> 01:32:28,187
Speaker 24: come out and sadness of ambitions for the club. You know, well,

1911
01:32:29,307 --> 01:32:32,027
Speaker 24: we really want to do well this year and yeah,

1912
01:32:32,067 --> 01:32:33,267
Speaker 24: I just wanted to be a part of it.

1913
01:32:34,387 --> 01:32:36,107
Speaker 3: And of course your debute for the All Whites at

1914
01:32:36,107 --> 01:32:38,987
Speaker 3: the start of last year picked up three caps. How

1915
01:32:39,067 --> 01:32:41,747
Speaker 3: ambitious are you to add to those and to get

1916
01:32:41,787 --> 01:32:42,707
Speaker 3: back in an All White shit?

1917
01:32:43,667 --> 01:32:45,867
Speaker 24: Yeah, that's a that's a massive goal for me and

1918
01:32:45,987 --> 01:32:50,507
Speaker 24: obviously I just need to be playing, so I just

1919
01:32:50,587 --> 01:32:52,227
Speaker 24: need to take my chance when I'm on the field

1920
01:32:52,307 --> 01:32:53,307
Speaker 24: and hopefully.

1921
01:32:54,507 --> 01:32:56,747
Speaker 10: That catches the eye of Days and he brings me

1922
01:32:56,867 --> 01:32:57,147
Speaker 10: back in.

1923
01:32:57,827 --> 01:32:57,947
Speaker 14: Well.

1924
01:32:58,107 --> 01:33:00,587
Speaker 3: But gatted you didn't get on on the derby against

1925
01:33:00,627 --> 01:33:03,627
Speaker 3: the Phoenix in the game and Mount Smart a couple

1926
01:33:03,627 --> 01:33:04,227
Speaker 3: of weeks ago.

1927
01:33:05,467 --> 01:33:06,827
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, one hundred.

1928
01:33:07,147 --> 01:33:07,627
Speaker 20: I was good.

1929
01:33:08,827 --> 01:33:11,147
Speaker 24: You know, I really wanted to play that game, but

1930
01:33:12,267 --> 01:33:15,067
Speaker 24: you know, at the end of the day, we won,

1931
01:33:15,227 --> 01:33:18,787
Speaker 24: so you know, I'm stoked. I'm stoked we got three points.

1932
01:33:19,187 --> 01:33:22,427
Speaker 3: In Western United this afternoon. They're coming into a bit

1933
01:33:22,467 --> 01:33:25,827
Speaker 3: of form themselves. They put four past Sydney FC last

1934
01:33:25,867 --> 01:33:27,867
Speaker 3: weekend and a four to three win. How are where

1935
01:33:27,947 --> 01:33:30,547
Speaker 3: are you of the attacking threat that they'll pose you

1936
01:33:30,627 --> 01:33:31,227
Speaker 3: this afternoon.

1937
01:33:32,587 --> 01:33:37,267
Speaker 24: Yeah, obviously they had a good result last weekend. You know,

1938
01:33:37,387 --> 01:33:40,867
Speaker 24: Western they're very good football inside, They've got a lot

1939
01:33:40,867 --> 01:33:43,787
Speaker 24: of threats up top, so it's going to.

1940
01:33:43,787 --> 01:33:44,707
Speaker 10: Be a very tough game.

1941
01:33:44,787 --> 01:33:48,547
Speaker 24: But you know, we we've analyzed how we can break

1942
01:33:48,667 --> 01:33:52,627
Speaker 24: down their weaknesses and hopefully, yeah, we get the three

1943
01:33:52,627 --> 01:33:53,187
Speaker 24: points today.

1944
01:33:53,627 --> 01:33:56,507
Speaker 3: One of the features of games at Mount Smart has

1945
01:33:56,507 --> 01:34:00,987
Speaker 3: been the crowds just absolutely terrific, including the port. Of course,

1946
01:34:01,027 --> 01:34:03,547
Speaker 3: you're active active support. How much of a boost do

1947
01:34:04,267 --> 01:34:05,987
Speaker 3: do big crowds like that give you?

1948
01:34:07,427 --> 01:34:08,907
Speaker 10: Yeah, they're they're massive for us.

1949
01:34:09,947 --> 01:34:12,547
Speaker 24: You know, the port have been amazing, and not only

1950
01:34:12,667 --> 01:34:16,627
Speaker 24: the port, all the other fans that turn up every weekend.

1951
01:34:16,667 --> 01:34:18,147
Speaker 10: They've been huge for us.

1952
01:34:18,307 --> 01:34:21,667
Speaker 24: You know, I was actually speaking to Dan all the

1953
01:34:21,747 --> 01:34:25,347
Speaker 24: other day and we're saying it's weird because we genuinely

1954
01:34:25,387 --> 01:34:27,547
Speaker 24: want to do well because we see how proud it

1955
01:34:27,667 --> 01:34:31,747
Speaker 24: makes Auckland has seen us do well, so you know,

1956
01:34:31,867 --> 01:34:33,027
Speaker 24: they're yeah, they're huge for.

1957
01:34:33,107 --> 01:34:35,707
Speaker 3: Us, amazing And this is your fiftieth A League game

1958
01:34:35,747 --> 01:34:37,827
Speaker 3: this afternoon. Now forty seven of those were Wellington. This

1959
01:34:37,867 --> 01:34:40,467
Speaker 3: will be your third with Auckland FC. Is that a

1960
01:34:40,547 --> 01:34:44,507
Speaker 3: meaningful milestone? Is that something that means something anything to you?

1961
01:34:46,467 --> 01:34:51,507
Speaker 24: I mean I didn't know that until you just told me, Dan. Yeah,

1962
01:34:51,587 --> 01:34:55,227
Speaker 24: but yeah, it's all always good to rack up the

1963
01:34:55,307 --> 01:34:59,227
Speaker 24: games in professional football. So yeah, I'm pretty happy that.

1964
01:34:59,507 --> 01:35:01,347
Speaker 3: Well, may there be many more. All the best this

1965
01:35:01,467 --> 01:35:03,707
Speaker 3: afternoon against Western United. Kellen, thanks for taking the time

1966
01:35:03,747 --> 01:35:06,147
Speaker 3: for a chat. Sweet thank you, No, thank you, Kellen, Kellen.

1967
01:35:06,507 --> 01:35:08,987
Speaker 3: They're out of Auckland FC. Five o'clock kick off this afternoon.

1968
01:35:09,387 --> 01:35:14,907
Speaker 3: Western United are the opponents, and in their innovative fashion,

1969
01:35:15,547 --> 01:35:18,067
Speaker 3: Auckland FC have trucked in one hundred tons of sand

1970
01:35:18,707 --> 01:35:20,547
Speaker 3: into go Media Stadium and they put it at the

1971
01:35:20,627 --> 01:35:25,227
Speaker 3: northern end. They've created New Zealand's biggest inland beach for

1972
01:35:25,867 --> 01:35:28,227
Speaker 3: the next three home games. I've seen a couple of

1973
01:35:28,267 --> 01:35:31,267
Speaker 3: photos of it and it's all looking very beachy there

1974
01:35:32,507 --> 01:35:35,747
Speaker 3: at Mount smart Go Media this afternoon. So yeah, just

1975
01:35:35,827 --> 01:35:39,107
Speaker 3: another way to add a little bit of extra to

1976
01:35:39,867 --> 01:35:42,027
Speaker 3: the match day experience. So well done to the team

1977
01:35:42,027 --> 01:35:45,907
Speaker 3: at Auckland FC for another marketing initiative. I believe there

1978
01:35:45,947 --> 01:35:47,787
Speaker 3: are still tickets available, in fact I know that there are,

1979
01:35:48,027 --> 01:35:49,187
Speaker 3: So if you're at a bit of a loose end

1980
01:35:49,227 --> 01:35:50,827
Speaker 3: in the Auckland area and you want to find out

1981
01:35:50,867 --> 01:35:53,947
Speaker 3: what all the fuss is about, get along. It's a

1982
01:35:54,027 --> 01:35:56,187
Speaker 3: terrific match day experience and you could even get down

1983
01:35:56,267 --> 01:36:00,107
Speaker 3: there and play in the sand if that is something

1984
01:36:00,147 --> 01:36:03,507
Speaker 3: that takes your fancy. Fifty overs done, all done at

1985
01:36:03,547 --> 01:36:06,347
Speaker 3: the base in Reserve for Australia, sent in by New Zealand.

1986
01:36:06,907 --> 01:36:09,947
Speaker 3: Pretty good total two hundred and ninety one for seven

1987
01:36:10,227 --> 01:36:13,427
Speaker 3: off their fifty overs. Star of the show Annabelle Sutherland

1988
01:36:13,867 --> 01:36:16,947
Speaker 3: with an unbeaten one hundred and five of eighty one

1989
01:36:17,107 --> 01:36:22,907
Speaker 3: balls anchoring the innings. Also contributions from Alissa Healey, Phoebe Litchfield,

1990
01:36:23,467 --> 01:36:27,427
Speaker 3: Elise Perry and Tarlie mcgrah all sort of twenties and

1991
01:36:27,507 --> 01:36:29,347
Speaker 3: thirties best of the New Zealand bowler is by far

1992
01:36:29,467 --> 01:36:32,107
Speaker 3: Molly Penfold. Ten overs one made and four for forty

1993
01:36:32,227 --> 01:36:35,227
Speaker 3: two for Molly Penfold. Eden Carson picked up a couple

1994
01:36:35,267 --> 01:36:38,867
Speaker 3: of wickets and Rosary Mayor also with a wicket, so

1995
01:36:38,987 --> 01:36:42,547
Speaker 3: two ninety one for seven off their fifty overs Australia.

1996
01:36:42,987 --> 01:36:44,987
Speaker 3: New Zealand will begin the chase for two hundred and

1997
01:36:45,187 --> 01:36:47,467
Speaker 3: ninety two to win the match in around forty minutes

1998
01:36:47,587 --> 01:36:52,187
Speaker 3: or so. With the first game rained out and Australia

1999
01:36:52,307 --> 01:36:55,187
Speaker 3: in possession of the Rose Bowl, New Zealand have to

2000
01:36:55,227 --> 01:36:58,107
Speaker 3: win both matches to win the Rose Bowl now, so

2001
01:36:58,467 --> 01:37:01,427
Speaker 3: a pretty stiff task first up two hundred and ninety

2002
01:37:01,467 --> 01:37:04,907
Speaker 3: two they're chasing to win the second game. The third

2003
01:37:04,947 --> 01:37:08,107
Speaker 3: one is on Monday and great to see New Zealand

2004
01:37:08,147 --> 01:37:11,467
Speaker 3: Cricket who had opened the doors for free on Thursday

2005
01:37:11,547 --> 01:37:13,627
Speaker 3: for the first game when it was rained out. They said, well,

2006
01:37:13,707 --> 01:37:16,547
Speaker 3: you know we'll open it for games two and three

2007
01:37:16,587 --> 01:37:19,267
Speaker 3: as well, so free entry today and free entry again

2008
01:37:19,347 --> 01:37:22,067
Speaker 3: on Monday for the third and final Rose Ball one

2009
01:37:22,147 --> 01:37:25,467
Speaker 3: day at the Basin Reserve two twenty one it is.

2010
01:37:25,507 --> 01:37:27,107
Speaker 3: We're going to take a break and when we come back,

2011
01:37:27,507 --> 01:37:31,627
Speaker 3: looking forward to having a chat to Dave McElman an

2012
01:37:31,667 --> 01:37:35,987
Speaker 3: elite able bodied basketball player until an accident in nineteen

2013
01:37:36,107 --> 01:37:40,227
Speaker 3: eighty left him a quadriplegic. He became a four time

2014
01:37:40,307 --> 01:37:45,787
Speaker 3: Paralympian and three time Paralympic medallist. Dave mcklman on Weekend Sport.

2015
01:37:45,867 --> 01:37:50,307
Speaker 1: After this the figure season Sports are on Weekend Sports

2016
01:37:50,427 --> 01:37:54,587
Speaker 1: with Jason Pain and GJ. Gunnomes New Zealand's most trusted

2017
01:37:54,627 --> 01:37:55,147
Speaker 1: home builder.

2018
01:37:55,267 --> 01:37:58,427
Speaker 3: News Talks be News Talks at Being Weekend Sport two

2019
01:37:58,547 --> 01:38:02,747
Speaker 3: twenty four. Dave McCalman is a three time Paralympic medalist

2020
01:38:02,827 --> 01:38:07,027
Speaker 3: for New Zealand. He was an elite able body basket ballplayer,

2021
01:38:07,307 --> 01:38:09,747
Speaker 3: becoming the first key to play in the Australian National

2022
01:38:09,827 --> 01:38:13,227
Speaker 3: League and then taking up a scholarship at a US college.

2023
01:38:13,627 --> 01:38:17,387
Speaker 3: But in his freshman year in nineteen eighty he misjudged

2024
01:38:17,547 --> 01:38:20,107
Speaker 3: the depth of the water jumping into a water hole

2025
01:38:20,627 --> 01:38:25,507
Speaker 3: and sustained serious spinal injuries. Following his disability, he moved

2026
01:38:25,547 --> 01:38:30,107
Speaker 3: into able bodied basketball coaching, leading teams to national titles,

2027
01:38:30,187 --> 01:38:33,947
Speaker 3: before later taking up power athletics. Just six weeks out

2028
01:38:33,987 --> 01:38:37,587
Speaker 3: from his Paralympic debut at Barcelona in nineteen ninety two,

2029
01:38:38,267 --> 01:38:42,187
Speaker 3: they removed his favorite pentathlon from the program and he

2030
01:38:42,347 --> 01:38:46,347
Speaker 3: instead entered the javelin, becoming New Zealand Paralympian number eighty.

2031
01:38:46,827 --> 01:38:49,147
Speaker 3: He won a javelin silver medal at the nineteen ninety

2032
01:38:49,227 --> 01:38:52,587
Speaker 3: six Paralympic Games and two goals in javelin and the

2033
01:38:52,667 --> 01:38:57,027
Speaker 3: restored pentathlon at the Sydney two thousand Paralympics. He made

2034
01:38:57,067 --> 01:39:00,747
Speaker 3: his fourth and final Paralympic appearance in Athens in two

2035
01:39:00,827 --> 01:39:04,107
Speaker 3: thousand and four. He has coached in both disability and

2036
01:39:04,307 --> 01:39:10,027
Speaker 3: mainstream sports, including wheelchair rugby and wheelchair basketball. Dave McCalman

2037
01:39:10,107 --> 01:39:13,627
Speaker 3: recently retired after nineteen years working for the Hellberg Foundation,

2038
01:39:14,067 --> 01:39:17,947
Speaker 3: but is still very involved in sport, and he's published

2039
01:39:17,987 --> 01:39:20,667
Speaker 3: a book on his life. It's called Here's to Life

2040
01:39:21,067 --> 01:39:23,787
Speaker 3: and All That Jazz. Dave mcalman is with us SAR.

2041
01:39:23,827 --> 01:39:26,507
Speaker 3: Congrats on the book, Dave, All that Jazz and the title?

2042
01:39:26,587 --> 01:39:29,867
Speaker 3: Does that refer to your love of jazz music?

2043
01:39:31,027 --> 01:39:33,747
Speaker 9: Hey, yeah, thanks very much for having me on mate.

2044
01:39:33,787 --> 01:39:37,387
Speaker 9: Well what an introduction? Ah yeah, yeah yeah. My mother

2045
01:39:38,427 --> 01:39:41,227
Speaker 9: played around with her jazz singing in the late forties

2046
01:39:41,267 --> 01:39:44,347
Speaker 9: in Wellington when she was a young girl, and pretty

2047
01:39:44,387 --> 01:39:46,067
Speaker 9: much all the records in our house.

2048
01:39:45,867 --> 01:39:49,827
Speaker 3: With jazz wonderful. Well, as I said, lots to unpack.

2049
01:39:50,067 --> 01:39:52,107
Speaker 3: Maybe we can start with a general look back. How

2050
01:39:52,107 --> 01:39:55,867
Speaker 3: do you reflect in general terms on your career as

2051
01:39:56,387 --> 01:39:57,787
Speaker 3: an elite power athlete.

2052
01:40:00,027 --> 01:40:04,907
Speaker 9: Well, Paralympics gave me an opportunity to fulfill my potential.

2053
01:40:04,987 --> 01:40:07,827
Speaker 9: I think as an athlete there was a difference cut

2054
01:40:07,907 --> 01:40:12,507
Speaker 9: short earned basketball. I really dedicated many years and hours

2055
01:40:12,627 --> 01:40:16,867
Speaker 9: to improving and getting good at basketball, and when that

2056
01:40:16,947 --> 01:40:20,867
Speaker 9: opportunity was removed, Paralympics gave me that opportunity. Took me

2057
01:40:20,987 --> 01:40:23,067
Speaker 9: a little while. I had to go through some transition

2058
01:40:23,227 --> 01:40:27,827
Speaker 9: of coaching and socializing through the eighties when I coached

2059
01:40:27,867 --> 01:40:33,147
Speaker 9: able body basketball. But yeah, ninety two Barcelona Paralympics was

2060
01:40:33,387 --> 01:40:35,107
Speaker 9: a bit of a dream really for me to be

2061
01:40:35,147 --> 01:40:38,707
Speaker 9: an athlete again. So Paralympics really gave me a lot

2062
01:40:38,947 --> 01:40:39,507
Speaker 9: in my life.

2063
01:40:40,187 --> 01:40:43,067
Speaker 3: Is that true? About ninety two? They removed pentathlon, but

2064
01:40:43,147 --> 01:40:45,827
Speaker 3: they removed it almost what just a few weeks before

2065
01:40:45,867 --> 01:40:46,987
Speaker 3: the games? What happened there?

2066
01:40:47,827 --> 01:40:51,227
Speaker 9: So they see they needed six athletes from five countries

2067
01:40:51,307 --> 01:40:55,387
Speaker 9: to constitute an event, and the Paralympics have many events.

2068
01:40:55,987 --> 01:40:58,587
Speaker 9: If you think about the different disability types and one

2069
01:40:58,667 --> 01:41:02,027
Speaker 9: hundred meters and both genders. There's a lot of events.

2070
01:41:02,067 --> 01:41:05,547
Speaker 9: That's a tight schedule. So yeah, once the final entries

2071
01:41:05,587 --> 01:41:09,467
Speaker 9: were in, that was call the organizing committee made good.

2072
01:41:10,147 --> 01:41:13,787
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, And so obviously it came back in two thousand,

2073
01:41:13,827 --> 01:41:16,467
Speaker 3: which we'll get to. But you competed in the javelin

2074
01:41:16,547 --> 01:41:19,627
Speaker 3: and then your first Paralympic medal, the silver and the

2075
01:41:19,747 --> 01:41:21,707
Speaker 3: javelin in nineteen ninety six.

2076
01:41:21,787 --> 01:41:26,347
Speaker 9: Tell us about that good story there. Suddenly this Iranian

2077
01:41:26,427 --> 01:41:29,107
Speaker 9: athlete turned up out of nowhere and was breaking world

2078
01:41:29,187 --> 01:41:32,347
Speaker 9: records left right and sent it. And I'd been doing

2079
01:41:32,467 --> 01:41:36,187
Speaker 9: my training in the Kaddicadi Wrestling Club with a great

2080
01:41:36,307 --> 01:41:39,387
Speaker 9: wrestling made of my Andy Roach, and we'd worked out

2081
01:41:39,427 --> 01:41:42,467
Speaker 9: a system that I could throw pretty good draven javelin

2082
01:41:42,587 --> 01:41:45,627
Speaker 9: through the winter. Anyway, I got out there and I

2083
01:41:45,827 --> 01:41:49,587
Speaker 9: threw the world record and thought I was in the money,

2084
01:41:50,267 --> 01:41:53,107
Speaker 9: and the Iranian with his last throw beat me by

2085
01:41:53,147 --> 01:41:56,107
Speaker 9: a meter and a half. And that was the same

2086
01:41:56,187 --> 01:42:00,707
Speaker 9: in all of the three field events actually, so yeah,

2087
01:42:00,747 --> 01:42:03,827
Speaker 9: that was this album. But hey, I started that medal

2088
01:42:03,907 --> 01:42:06,547
Speaker 9: count and got a silver and I was wrapped.

2089
01:42:06,867 --> 01:42:10,787
Speaker 3: And double gold at Sydney two thousand and the javelin

2090
01:42:10,907 --> 01:42:15,187
Speaker 3: and obviously at that stage the restored pentathlon. How vivid

2091
01:42:15,227 --> 01:42:17,907
Speaker 3: are your memories of Sydney two thousand, Yeah.

2092
01:42:17,787 --> 01:42:21,947
Speaker 9: Still very vivid. And I guess the being persistent and

2093
01:42:22,627 --> 01:42:25,187
Speaker 9: staying with it because I went back and I got

2094
01:42:25,227 --> 01:42:28,307
Speaker 9: the Iranian in two thousand and I finally got the

2095
01:42:28,827 --> 01:42:32,507
Speaker 9: quadriplegic pentathlin. So you know, you stay with it long enough,

2096
01:42:32,587 --> 01:42:37,707
Speaker 9: it'll come to here. Very vivid, great story around the javelin.

2097
01:42:38,707 --> 01:42:42,427
Speaker 9: So Murray Halberg had been spoken to our team prior

2098
01:42:42,507 --> 01:42:45,107
Speaker 9: to us leaving Auckland, and I took a lot of

2099
01:42:45,307 --> 01:42:49,547
Speaker 9: what he had said about his room, gold medal and

2100
01:42:49,667 --> 01:42:52,907
Speaker 9: being in the call up room. So I followed his

2101
01:42:53,067 --> 01:42:56,707
Speaker 9: instructions very closely. I was the world record holder at

2102
01:42:56,747 --> 01:43:00,427
Speaker 9: that time and so had he been. So it all

2103
01:43:00,507 --> 01:43:05,747
Speaker 9: went well, all went to plan, and Ben got the

2104
01:43:05,827 --> 01:43:09,547
Speaker 9: stadium to finally play the New Zealand national anthem. Because

2105
01:43:09,627 --> 01:43:12,867
Speaker 9: that Sydney Olympics, I think it was only Rob Wodell

2106
01:43:12,907 --> 01:43:13,547
Speaker 9: that got a gold.

2107
01:43:14,067 --> 01:43:17,587
Speaker 3: Yeah, dead right, dead right, and yeah out on the water,

2108
01:43:17,707 --> 01:43:19,627
Speaker 3: not on the stadium. So what was the advice that

2109
01:43:20,027 --> 01:43:22,787
Speaker 3: sir Murray gave you about being in the call room beforehand?

2110
01:43:24,147 --> 01:43:27,187
Speaker 9: Basically, look at all your competitors in the eyes, you know,

2111
01:43:27,667 --> 01:43:33,107
Speaker 9: steer them down. And also that there was a metaphoric

2112
01:43:33,227 --> 01:43:36,027
Speaker 9: sort of a door at the end of the room

2113
01:43:36,067 --> 01:43:39,787
Speaker 9: where the champions stepped through and be prepared to lose

2114
01:43:39,867 --> 01:43:45,307
Speaker 9: yourself in the event. And yeah, that sort of mental focus.

2115
01:43:45,427 --> 01:43:49,267
Speaker 3: Really love that, love that. Yeah, what would that would

2116
01:43:49,267 --> 01:43:51,387
Speaker 3: make anybody want to come out there and compete to

2117
01:43:51,507 --> 01:43:54,227
Speaker 3: the piece of their ability of Sir Murray Helberg's giving

2118
01:43:54,267 --> 01:43:56,747
Speaker 3: you advice like that? What a what a champion piece

2119
01:43:56,787 --> 01:44:01,227
Speaker 3: of advice. What happened in nineteen eighty Dave, that led

2120
01:44:01,267 --> 01:44:02,267
Speaker 3: to your spinal.

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Speaker 9: Injuries, youthful enthusiasm up to this water hole which was

2122
01:44:08,627 --> 01:44:12,187
Speaker 9: a sort of in a canyon area prior with a

2123
01:44:12,267 --> 01:44:15,987
Speaker 9: few of the local guys from town, and that finished

2124
01:44:15,987 --> 01:44:19,307
Speaker 9: my last class, walking across the field with a Hawaiian

2125
01:44:19,387 --> 01:44:23,387
Speaker 9: guy forty degrees getting very hot in the San Joaquin

2126
01:44:23,507 --> 01:44:26,467
Speaker 9: Valley and I had to plan, let's go for a swim,

2127
01:44:27,747 --> 01:44:30,387
Speaker 9: And as I say, I sort of got to the

2128
01:44:31,347 --> 01:44:34,587
Speaker 9: spillway and went down on my feet and dove into

2129
01:44:34,667 --> 01:44:38,467
Speaker 9: the water, not thinking anything of it, and the water

2130
01:44:38,747 --> 01:44:40,827
Speaker 9: was so shallow I hit my head on the bottom

2131
01:44:43,427 --> 01:44:50,747
Speaker 9: so instantly paralyzed survival to not drown, and then the

2132
01:44:50,987 --> 01:44:56,267
Speaker 9: ordeal of not having enough medical assurance. My coach was brilliant,

2133
01:44:56,867 --> 01:45:01,707
Speaker 9: turned up and pretty much sergeant, you know, major, got

2134
01:45:01,787 --> 01:45:05,787
Speaker 9: everybody going and I ended up in Fresno Community Hospital

2135
01:45:06,627 --> 01:45:11,027
Speaker 9: and got my surgery which allowed me then to set

2136
01:45:11,107 --> 01:45:15,267
Speaker 9: up and start working out again. And that's pretty much

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01:45:15,347 --> 01:45:19,347
Speaker 9: how I pursued it as a physical challenge all the

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01:45:19,427 --> 01:45:19,827
Speaker 9: way through.

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Speaker 3: But changed your life obviously completely, did it? Or how

2140
01:45:25,547 --> 01:45:28,147
Speaker 3: long did it take for you to come to terms

2141
01:45:28,187 --> 01:45:28,387
Speaker 3: with it?

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01:45:29,987 --> 01:45:32,747
Speaker 9: It comes and goes, you know, there's wheelchair blues ies

2143
01:45:32,827 --> 01:45:37,867
Speaker 9: to call it, but about three years you pretty well

2144
01:45:37,947 --> 01:45:41,627
Speaker 9: get into a fairly consistent routine and you're happy with it,

2145
01:45:41,707 --> 01:45:43,467
Speaker 9: and you understand what you can do and what you

2146
01:45:43,587 --> 01:45:45,947
Speaker 9: can't do, and you concentrate on what you can do.

2147
01:45:46,787 --> 01:45:49,427
Speaker 9: And then I would say at seven years you're probably

2148
01:45:49,547 --> 01:45:55,147
Speaker 9: unconsciously operating as a wheelchair user. And it does take

2149
01:45:55,227 --> 01:45:58,747
Speaker 9: that time. But as I said, I think the physical

2150
01:45:58,827 --> 01:46:03,147
Speaker 9: aspect of it is the focus, and that's where Paralympics

2151
01:46:03,187 --> 01:46:06,147
Speaker 9: are so good, you know, being able to get out

2152
01:46:06,187 --> 01:46:09,787
Speaker 9: there and test yourself, learn from others, you know.

2153
01:46:09,907 --> 01:46:10,547
Speaker 16: That sort of thing.

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01:46:11,547 --> 01:46:15,627
Speaker 3: You already had a tremendous work ethic in order to

2155
01:46:15,707 --> 01:46:18,707
Speaker 3: get to where you got to an able bodied basketball

2156
01:46:19,107 --> 01:46:22,067
Speaker 3: Did you find that that just carried on the work

2157
01:46:22,107 --> 01:46:25,907
Speaker 3: ethic didn't disappear, and that's what allowed you to excel

2158
01:46:26,147 --> 01:46:27,147
Speaker 3: as a power athlete.

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01:46:27,987 --> 01:46:30,507
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think so. But I did spend a decade

2160
01:46:30,587 --> 01:46:33,187
Speaker 9: from the eighties to the start of the nineties. I

2161
01:46:33,267 --> 01:46:37,147
Speaker 9: started preparing for Barcelona at the end of nineteen nineties

2162
01:46:37,187 --> 01:46:41,467
Speaker 9: basketball season when I coached wat or woman Caroline Gray

2163
01:46:41,627 --> 01:46:45,187
Speaker 9: and Shelley Meads and a number of other athletes. We

2164
01:46:45,347 --> 01:46:50,307
Speaker 9: beat Auckland in overtime. But so that whole eight ten years,

2165
01:46:50,467 --> 01:46:53,027
Speaker 9: and I was in Fangada as a coach for a

2166
01:46:53,067 --> 01:46:55,667
Speaker 9: couple of years when jud Flavel and Pedal Cameron were

2167
01:46:55,827 --> 01:46:59,387
Speaker 9: just starting out. Those years of coaching, I think really

2168
01:47:00,187 --> 01:47:03,227
Speaker 9: gave me more understanding of what a training program was

2169
01:47:03,267 --> 01:47:06,187
Speaker 9: about and what I needed to do myself, more than

2170
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Speaker 9: I had been prior to the injury.

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Speaker 3: And how did you choose javelin and pentathlon? I guess

2172
01:47:13,387 --> 01:47:16,467
Speaker 3: it would have been more logical to go into wheelchair

2173
01:47:16,547 --> 01:47:18,867
Speaker 3: rugby or wheelchair basketball. Why was it track and field?

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01:47:19,907 --> 01:47:24,347
Speaker 9: Yeah, so wheelchair bus rugby didn't start till really nineteen nineties,

2175
01:47:25,027 --> 01:47:28,187
Speaker 9: but that was what everyone done. Everybody did it in

2176
01:47:28,227 --> 01:47:30,507
Speaker 9: those days. And I threw the shot in the disk

2177
01:47:30,587 --> 01:47:33,987
Speaker 9: and the pentathleon was because, I actually tell you, through

2178
01:47:34,067 --> 01:47:37,667
Speaker 9: sitting on a chair and throwing implements all day long,

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01:47:37,707 --> 01:47:40,027
Speaker 9: it's not the most attractive sport. If you've been a

2180
01:47:40,107 --> 01:47:43,707
Speaker 9: basketball plad, you know, there's no sort of you know,

2181
01:47:44,547 --> 01:47:47,747
Speaker 9: leading people into a trap and all the sort of things.

2182
01:47:48,147 --> 01:47:50,507
Speaker 9: So anyway, but javelin, I just seem to have an

2183
01:47:50,627 --> 01:47:54,507
Speaker 9: arm for it, basically, So I kept doing better and

2184
01:47:54,587 --> 01:47:58,307
Speaker 9: better and better and better, and the pentathlon allowed me

2185
01:47:58,427 --> 01:48:02,627
Speaker 9: to have a whole one day event, which was more interesting.

2186
01:48:02,707 --> 01:48:05,627
Speaker 9: I found that very interesting, more challenging.

2187
01:48:06,387 --> 01:48:09,147
Speaker 3: Did you get as much satisfaction from coaching as you

2188
01:48:09,227 --> 01:48:10,107
Speaker 3: did from competing?

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01:48:11,507 --> 01:48:13,227
Speaker 9: Almost almost?

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01:48:13,947 --> 01:48:14,147
Speaker 18: Yep.

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Speaker 9: I had some really good teams and being able to

2192
01:48:19,067 --> 01:48:22,227
Speaker 9: you know, make positive influences in the game to which

2193
01:48:22,347 --> 01:48:27,067
Speaker 9: then you would win was really rewarding. You know, winning

2194
01:48:27,147 --> 01:48:31,107
Speaker 9: championships with teams very rewarding. And just you know, I

2195
01:48:31,307 --> 01:48:34,227
Speaker 9: was young. I was I was twenty one. I was

2196
01:48:34,307 --> 01:48:38,667
Speaker 9: coaching New Aukland number twenty team, and so I still

2197
01:48:38,747 --> 01:48:40,827
Speaker 9: see a few of the guys that we're almost the

2198
01:48:40,907 --> 01:48:41,747
Speaker 9: same age now.

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Speaker 3: Incredible.

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01:48:43,467 --> 01:48:46,107
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I loved it. I loved the coaching.

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Speaker 3: Interesting you said almost I've heard that from so many

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01:48:49,547 --> 01:48:52,547
Speaker 3: elite athletes who have gone into coaching and they get

2203
01:48:52,587 --> 01:48:55,147
Speaker 3: a buzz, they get almost a buzz of doing it

2204
01:48:55,227 --> 01:48:58,627
Speaker 3: themselves day, but just not quite just not quite. Would

2205
01:48:58,627 --> 01:48:59,387
Speaker 3: that be the case with you?

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01:49:00,107 --> 01:49:00,267
Speaker 19: Yeah?

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01:49:00,347 --> 01:49:03,387
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know it's shooting that winning shot. Yeah, you know,

2208
01:49:03,547 --> 01:49:07,067
Speaker 9: that's yeah. You can't take that away away from players

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Speaker 9: and just the effort to just being in the grind

2210
01:49:13,107 --> 01:49:16,667
Speaker 9: and with the other teammates. That's superb basketball. A well,

2211
01:49:16,707 --> 01:49:20,027
Speaker 9: you know, I'm so dedicated. I still watch all the

2212
01:49:20,147 --> 01:49:20,867
Speaker 9: NBL games.

2213
01:49:21,587 --> 01:49:22,787
Speaker 16: You keep up with it.

2214
01:49:23,827 --> 01:49:26,427
Speaker 3: What was your work with the Halberg Foundation? What did

2215
01:49:26,467 --> 01:49:27,187
Speaker 3: that consist of?

2216
01:49:27,507 --> 01:49:32,547
Speaker 9: Mainly, the focus of the foundation and Murray's trustee early

2217
01:49:32,587 --> 01:49:37,227
Speaker 9: on was to give young people with disabilities an opportunity

2218
01:49:37,267 --> 01:49:41,987
Speaker 9: to get involved in sport and recreation, and that's what

2219
01:49:42,227 --> 01:49:44,267
Speaker 9: they do, and they do it in different ways. We

2220
01:49:44,347 --> 01:49:51,387
Speaker 9: did it within schools, within communities, trying to break down barriers,

2221
01:49:52,227 --> 01:49:55,987
Speaker 9: and probably the best thing that came along was the

2222
01:49:56,107 --> 01:49:59,267
Speaker 9: independence games that were run by ccs back in the

2223
01:49:59,387 --> 01:50:03,987
Speaker 9: day were folding and Halberg took them up and created

2224
01:50:04,067 --> 01:50:07,627
Speaker 9: the Halburg Games for about team years twelve years now,

2225
01:50:07,827 --> 01:50:13,667
Speaker 9: and that is just a wonderful festival of sport and community.

2226
01:50:14,267 --> 01:50:17,587
Speaker 9: People from all over the country come together and there's

2227
01:50:17,667 --> 01:50:20,747
Speaker 9: just smiles everywhere. The parents, you're getting a lot out

2228
01:50:20,787 --> 01:50:24,867
Speaker 9: of it just seeing their children achieve that they hadn't

2229
01:50:24,907 --> 01:50:30,307
Speaker 9: seen before at school settings. So yeah, that's basically the

2230
01:50:31,347 --> 01:50:35,507
Speaker 9: co puper there is to get young physically disabled people

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01:50:35,587 --> 01:50:37,907
Speaker 9: into being active outstanding.

2232
01:50:38,587 --> 01:50:40,747
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what takes up most of your time these days?

2233
01:50:41,947 --> 01:50:44,827
Speaker 9: I'm on the way he beat school board, a hand cycle,

2234
01:50:44,987 --> 01:50:47,227
Speaker 9: trying and keep myself fit, trying to keep you know,

2235
01:50:47,467 --> 01:50:51,867
Speaker 9: this aging process in theay are. We all got two

2236
01:50:51,987 --> 01:50:55,747
Speaker 9: grandsons living with us, trying to help them with their

2237
01:50:55,787 --> 01:50:58,907
Speaker 9: basketball and sport. And I've got a little acre of

2238
01:50:59,067 --> 01:51:00,907
Speaker 9: land here that keeps us busy.

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01:51:01,227 --> 01:51:03,307
Speaker 3: Brilliant, brilliant stuff. And you're happy with the way the

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Speaker 3: book came out.

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01:51:05,187 --> 01:51:10,107
Speaker 9: Yeah, Tommy did a job. Good journalist has known me

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01:51:10,467 --> 01:51:15,507
Speaker 9: since I was fourteen in the legendary Newtown Stadium in Wellington,

2243
01:51:17,467 --> 01:51:20,387
Speaker 9: and just the camaraderie, the friendship we built over the

2244
01:51:20,427 --> 01:51:23,467
Speaker 9: four years it took. And yeah, he didn't want it

2245
01:51:23,587 --> 01:51:27,027
Speaker 9: to be complicated, less was more in a very sort

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01:51:27,067 --> 01:51:32,547
Speaker 9: of jazz sort of feel. Yes, and yeah it's come

2247
01:51:32,587 --> 01:51:37,187
Speaker 9: out really well. Everybody says, great read, it's not complex,

2248
01:51:37,307 --> 01:51:40,747
Speaker 9: it's a simple read and a lot of good stories outstanding.

2249
01:51:40,947 --> 01:51:44,307
Speaker 3: Well, you've told us a bunch of good ones today, Dave. Look,

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Speaker 3: thanks so much for sharing your journey with us. Congrats

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Speaker 3: on the book and all the best for all the

2252
01:51:49,347 --> 01:51:50,827
Speaker 3: beast for what lies there. And I get the feeling

2253
01:51:50,827 --> 01:51:52,067
Speaker 3: there's still much more to come in your.

2254
01:51:52,027 --> 01:51:54,787
Speaker 9: Life, I hope, so, Jason. If I just say, if

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01:51:54,827 --> 01:51:56,827
Speaker 9: anybody wants a book and you can get it online

2256
01:51:56,867 --> 01:52:03,027
Speaker 9: at Copypress or Wheelers or the Why He Beach Hardware brilliant.

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01:52:03,227 --> 01:52:06,227
Speaker 3: Here's The Life and All That Jazz by Dave McElman. David,

2258
01:52:06,347 --> 01:52:07,947
Speaker 3: and thanks for your time, all the best for the

2259
01:52:07,987 --> 01:52:08,667
Speaker 3: festive season.

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01:52:09,227 --> 01:52:11,427
Speaker 9: Pleaser, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.

2261
01:52:11,147 --> 01:52:13,747
Speaker 3: To here too, Dave. Dave mckelman, what a man. Three

2262
01:52:13,827 --> 01:52:17,507
Speaker 3: time Paralympic medalist, four time Paralympian and well by the

2263
01:52:17,547 --> 01:52:21,827
Speaker 3: sounds of a guy who has squeezed every ounce out

2264
01:52:21,867 --> 01:52:23,547
Speaker 3: of his life. His book is called hast to Life

2265
01:52:23,547 --> 01:52:26,147
Speaker 3: and all That Jazz, and yeah, it's a good read.

2266
01:52:26,387 --> 01:52:29,307
Speaker 3: And what a top bloke, what a good man. Twenty

2267
01:52:29,347 --> 01:52:31,067
Speaker 3: one away from three. We'll take a break and then

2268
01:52:31,347 --> 01:52:33,987
Speaker 3: go racing. Well we won't go racing, but talk about it.

2269
01:52:34,307 --> 01:52:38,307
Speaker 3: The Christmas Carnival is back at Allesleie Boxing Day, New

2270
01:52:38,427 --> 01:52:42,467
Speaker 3: Year's Day hasn't been there for four years back this summer.

2271
01:52:42,507 --> 01:52:44,387
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that when we come back on Weekend Sport.

2272
01:52:44,747 --> 01:52:48,467
Speaker 1: Don't get caught off side and eighty ten eighty weekends

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Speaker 1: for us with Jason Paine and GJ guvnomes New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: most trusted home builder.

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Speaker 12: News Talks n.

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Speaker 3: B eighteen away from three on News Talk Z'B. After

2277
01:52:57,427 --> 01:53:01,747
Speaker 3: a four year hiatus, the Christmas Carnival returns to Allesleie

2278
01:53:01,827 --> 01:53:05,307
Speaker 3: Race Course this summer. The Boxing Day and New Year's

2279
01:53:05,387 --> 01:53:08,987
Speaker 3: Day races may highlights on the racing calendar and one

2280
01:53:09,107 --> 01:53:13,747
Speaker 3: of the country's richest annual sporting events. Paul Wilcox is

2281
01:53:14,067 --> 01:53:16,787
Speaker 3: CEO of Auckland Thoroughbred Racing. It joins us now on

2282
01:53:16,827 --> 01:53:19,547
Speaker 3: Weekend Sport. Thanks for your time, Paul. How exciting is it,

2283
01:53:19,627 --> 01:53:21,907
Speaker 3: first of all to have the Christmas Carnival back after

2284
01:53:22,027 --> 01:53:23,147
Speaker 3: a four year gap.

2285
01:53:24,187 --> 01:53:25,867
Speaker 9: Oh, look where we're delighted.

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01:53:25,947 --> 01:53:29,467
Speaker 14: It's been, as you pointed out, a long time between drinks,

2287
01:53:29,587 --> 01:53:33,747
Speaker 14: so to have sky City as our naming rights sponsor

2288
01:53:33,867 --> 01:53:36,227
Speaker 14: for both Boxing Day and Newsday, we couldn't be more

2289
01:53:36,307 --> 01:53:39,187
Speaker 14: excited to finally be back at Alsie and give it

2290
01:53:39,267 --> 01:53:39,827
Speaker 14: a good nudge.

2291
01:53:40,187 --> 01:53:44,227
Speaker 3: How significant are these two days to the racing community,

2292
01:53:44,307 --> 01:53:46,347
Speaker 3: not just in Auckland, Paul, but you know the New

2293
01:53:46,427 --> 01:53:47,987
Speaker 3: Zealand racing community.

2294
01:53:48,147 --> 01:53:51,987
Speaker 14: Look very good, point Piney. Very important in the fact

2295
01:53:52,027 --> 01:53:55,067
Speaker 14: that on sky City Boxing Day racing we've got the

2296
01:53:55,227 --> 01:53:58,427
Speaker 14: Group One being the Cambridge Studs, the Bell Classic, and

2297
01:53:58,547 --> 01:54:01,707
Speaker 14: then moving into New Year's Day, we've got the important

2298
01:54:01,827 --> 01:54:05,707
Speaker 14: lead up races to a lot of future campaigns with

2299
01:54:05,907 --> 01:54:09,107
Speaker 14: the sky for the Clipped Stakes, a ritual mile and

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01:54:09,707 --> 01:54:12,747
Speaker 14: a great man who won't be forgotten, the Sir Patrick

2301
01:54:12,827 --> 01:54:16,467
Speaker 14: Hogan's Steak. So from an industry perspective, you know a

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01:54:16,547 --> 01:54:20,347
Speaker 14: lot of these horses this is either the start of

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01:54:20,427 --> 01:54:25,747
Speaker 14: their campaign for further riches or either the finisher, as

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01:54:25,907 --> 01:54:28,187
Speaker 14: is the case with the Group One Cambridge Studs, a

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01:54:28,227 --> 01:54:32,227
Speaker 14: Bill Classics, so extremely important, plenty of money on offer

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01:54:32,347 --> 01:54:35,627
Speaker 14: for connection. So yeah, we just hope the sun is

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01:54:35,667 --> 01:54:36,547
Speaker 14: shining and we have.

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Speaker 12: A good go at it.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you well, I know a lot of Auckland does.

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01:54:39,667 --> 01:54:42,667
Speaker 3: They spend Christmas Day doing the Christmas Day stuff. But

2311
01:54:42,787 --> 01:54:46,347
Speaker 3: really it's just it's sort of Boxing Day eve Christmas

2312
01:54:46,427 --> 01:54:49,187
Speaker 3: Day for many people. How much of a tradition had

2313
01:54:49,227 --> 01:54:52,107
Speaker 3: it become and how much you're looking forward to reinvigorating

2314
01:54:52,187 --> 01:54:53,187
Speaker 3: that Boxing Day tradition.

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01:54:53,947 --> 01:54:56,987
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think a really good important point you raise there.

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01:54:57,387 --> 01:55:00,387
Speaker 14: It was a tradition of a lot of people. You know,

2317
01:55:00,507 --> 01:55:04,667
Speaker 14: they have Christmas Day with their family and even if

2318
01:55:04,707 --> 01:55:08,147
Speaker 14: they've had the older family argument, they've ventured out on

2319
01:55:08,267 --> 01:55:10,947
Speaker 14: boxing data to come and just soak it all up

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01:55:11,027 --> 01:55:14,947
Speaker 14: and be able to relax in a really nice friendly

2321
01:55:15,107 --> 01:55:20,507
Speaker 14: environment in the infield and with no pressures of time constraints,

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01:55:21,027 --> 01:55:24,187
Speaker 14: have a good day and relax and watch some really

2323
01:55:24,227 --> 01:55:29,507
Speaker 14: good quality racing. Look, we were aware or cognizant of

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Speaker 14: the fact that we haven't done it for four years,

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01:55:31,587 --> 01:55:34,987
Speaker 14: so we want auckland Is to go, hey, heck, I

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01:55:35,067 --> 01:55:35,867
Speaker 14: haven't been there.

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01:55:35,787 --> 01:55:38,027
Speaker 16: For a time and come on back.

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Speaker 14: But to your other question, we usually turn around twenty

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01:55:43,067 --> 01:55:46,627
Speaker 14: twenty five thousand people over those two days. So look,

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Speaker 14: as long as the sun is shining, we want to

2331
01:55:48,427 --> 01:55:51,227
Speaker 14: give that a good nudge and get to those numbers

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Speaker 14: and if not beyond so really hoping that the big

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Speaker 14: boy upstairs and if Santa's listening, all I ask for

2334
01:55:58,707 --> 01:56:02,507
Speaker 14: Christmas is a nice sunny Boxing Day and follow that

2335
01:56:02,707 --> 01:56:05,147
Speaker 14: through into Christmas into New Year's Day as well.

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01:56:05,947 --> 01:56:08,507
Speaker 3: You talk about, you know, relaxing on the infield, but

2337
01:56:08,827 --> 01:56:10,827
Speaker 3: it feels to me as though you cada for all

2338
01:56:10,907 --> 01:56:13,107
Speaker 3: sorts of people. You know, there's the general admission obviously

2339
01:56:13,187 --> 01:56:15,547
Speaker 3: the paddock, but then for those who like to, you know,

2340
01:56:15,627 --> 01:56:18,067
Speaker 3: get the glad rags on and push the boat out

2341
01:56:18,067 --> 01:56:20,467
Speaker 3: a little bit on Boxing Day, you've got then covered

2342
01:56:20,467 --> 01:56:20,787
Speaker 3: as well.

2343
01:56:21,467 --> 01:56:22,387
Speaker 16: Yeah, one hundred percent.

2344
01:56:22,507 --> 01:56:25,547
Speaker 14: And there's look, you know, there's there's more than more

2345
01:56:25,627 --> 01:56:28,227
Speaker 14: than just racing. Obviously that's the reason for our being

2346
01:56:28,347 --> 01:56:32,307
Speaker 14: is racing. But we've got fashions in the field for.

2347
01:56:32,427 --> 01:56:34,027
Speaker 16: Both the men and the ladies.

2348
01:56:34,867 --> 01:56:37,507
Speaker 14: The crowd favorite as we've just talked about, the infield

2349
01:56:37,627 --> 01:56:40,907
Speaker 14: is back and that's a very relaxed environment for and

2350
01:56:41,027 --> 01:56:43,507
Speaker 14: a low cost way for families to enjoy themselves. But

2351
01:56:44,547 --> 01:56:46,947
Speaker 14: a new one we've got coming back in association with

2352
01:56:47,067 --> 01:56:49,787
Speaker 14: the Grand Tour, which is which has been going great

2353
01:56:50,147 --> 01:56:53,747
Speaker 14: great guns around the country already is the Paddock and

2354
01:56:53,867 --> 01:56:56,867
Speaker 14: that's where we go for the for the young ones, pinty,

2355
01:56:56,947 --> 01:57:00,147
Speaker 14: the under thirties, and they've got an all day DJ

2356
01:57:00,347 --> 01:57:03,187
Speaker 14: and lots going on there in the Barrett Lawn, So

2357
01:57:03,507 --> 01:57:06,627
Speaker 14: plenty on off. There's lots to choose from. Whether you

2358
01:57:06,707 --> 01:57:09,467
Speaker 14: want to just come and watch racing, that's sorted. If

2359
01:57:09,467 --> 01:57:10,667
Speaker 14: you want to have a bit more of.

2360
01:57:10,707 --> 01:57:14,027
Speaker 9: A high energy day, that's sorted.

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01:57:14,147 --> 01:57:16,587
Speaker 14: Or if you just want to relax with friends and family,

2362
01:57:16,947 --> 01:57:19,907
Speaker 14: we've got that sorted as well. So multitude of different

2363
01:57:20,787 --> 01:57:24,387
Speaker 14: environments or precincts for people to be able to enjoy

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Speaker 14: them their way and how they want to enjoy the day.

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01:57:27,787 --> 01:57:31,027
Speaker 3: So twenty to twenty twenty to twenty five thousand guests

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01:57:31,107 --> 01:57:35,707
Speaker 3: coming along, I guess you need quite a few staff, security, hospitality, management,

2367
01:57:35,747 --> 01:57:36,947
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. So what would you have three

2368
01:57:36,987 --> 01:57:38,147
Speaker 3: or four hundred on the day.

2369
01:57:38,747 --> 01:57:41,027
Speaker 14: Oh, you're a good man, you're just about bang on.

2370
01:57:41,187 --> 01:57:43,867
Speaker 14: We'll split it down the middle. So look, normally we

2371
01:57:44,027 --> 01:57:46,547
Speaker 14: have day and day out. We've got twenty two full

2372
01:57:46,627 --> 01:57:50,667
Speaker 14: time staff here working between Allesley and Pocockoe. But as

2373
01:57:50,747 --> 01:57:52,987
Speaker 14: you point out, on that day, three hundred and fifty

2374
01:57:53,067 --> 01:57:56,187
Speaker 14: staff come on board. So again it's not just you

2375
01:57:56,267 --> 01:57:59,187
Speaker 14: know again people sort of think of it's just racing,

2376
01:57:59,267 --> 01:58:01,227
Speaker 14: but you know, it's a lot of income for a

2377
01:58:01,307 --> 01:58:04,067
Speaker 14: lot of people and we're happy to support them. And

2378
01:58:05,507 --> 01:58:09,187
Speaker 14: what normally a day where everyone's relaxing, we've got a

2379
01:58:09,227 --> 01:58:11,667
Speaker 14: lot of people here working to make it more endurable.

2380
01:58:11,787 --> 01:58:15,107
Speaker 14: So yeah, three hundred and fifty on over the both

2381
01:58:15,147 --> 01:58:17,347
Speaker 14: of those days, So three hundred and fifty each. It's

2382
01:58:17,907 --> 01:58:21,547
Speaker 14: it's a fair whack of the old wages bill that

2383
01:58:21,987 --> 01:58:23,147
Speaker 14: comes out the following day.

2384
01:58:23,187 --> 01:58:24,747
Speaker 5: And let me tell you, no, I know.

2385
01:58:24,867 --> 01:58:27,027
Speaker 3: You're focused on Boxing Day and New Year's Day, but

2386
01:58:27,067 --> 01:58:29,027
Speaker 3: can I just ask you about March the eighth and

2387
01:58:29,667 --> 01:58:32,787
Speaker 3: and Champions Day with the three and a half million

2388
01:58:32,867 --> 01:58:35,667
Speaker 3: in steaks on the first ever slot race to hit

2389
01:58:35,707 --> 01:58:38,147
Speaker 3: New Zealander. You're well and truly and you're planning for that.

2390
01:58:38,947 --> 01:58:43,507
Speaker 14: Ah, yeah, absolutely, and look you're you're raising good points here,

2391
01:58:43,587 --> 01:58:47,587
Speaker 14: Pointy's we quickly go out of Boxing Day and Newsday

2392
01:58:47,707 --> 01:58:52,547
Speaker 14: straight into the Kracker Millions, which has turned into be

2393
01:58:52,667 --> 01:58:56,987
Speaker 14: the the not to mis event. But Champions Day hot

2394
01:58:57,027 --> 01:58:58,827
Speaker 14: on the heels of that, and that's going to be

2395
01:58:58,867 --> 01:59:01,467
Speaker 14: an exciting Day as well with as you point out,

2396
01:59:01,547 --> 01:59:04,867
Speaker 14: the n Zibikiwi which is the inrgal running of the

2397
01:59:04,987 --> 01:59:08,107
Speaker 14: n Zbikiwi with three point five million dollars in stakes,

2398
01:59:08,227 --> 01:59:10,987
Speaker 14: but we're remissing me not to mention the other stakes

2399
01:59:11,067 --> 01:59:14,467
Speaker 14: at following behind. She's going to be over ten million

2400
01:59:14,547 --> 01:59:18,147
Speaker 14: in steaks for the one day, something we can't wait for.

2401
01:59:18,867 --> 01:59:22,587
Speaker 14: But get these two races out do the Cracker Millions

2402
01:59:22,627 --> 01:59:26,747
Speaker 14: as well, which again has got some huge steaks money

2403
01:59:26,827 --> 01:59:31,267
Speaker 14: up for the connections to have a lockheut. But Champions

2404
01:59:31,347 --> 01:59:36,147
Speaker 14: Day we're excited, we can't wait, but look that things

2405
01:59:36,147 --> 01:59:38,947
Speaker 14: a long way away. When you've got this Boxing Day

2406
01:59:38,987 --> 01:59:40,347
Speaker 14: on the back doorstep.

2407
01:59:40,027 --> 01:59:43,147
Speaker 3: Let me tell you I can imagine exciting times ahead.

2408
01:59:43,187 --> 01:59:43,387
Speaker 17: Mate.

2409
01:59:43,587 --> 01:59:45,427
Speaker 3: Look I wish you all the best for Boxing Day,

2410
01:59:45,467 --> 01:59:47,907
Speaker 3: for New Year's Day and for a huge twenty twenty

2411
01:59:47,987 --> 01:59:50,627
Speaker 3: five as well. Auckland Racing dot co dot nz has

2412
01:59:50,667 --> 01:59:53,587
Speaker 3: all of the information about these race days and everything

2413
01:59:53,627 --> 01:59:55,827
Speaker 3: else everybody wants to know. We'll keep an eye on

2414
01:59:55,827 --> 01:59:56,467
Speaker 3: the forecast for you.

2415
01:59:56,507 --> 01:59:56,707
Speaker 11: Paul.

2416
01:59:56,747 --> 01:59:59,227
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us across New Zealand on z B today.

2417
01:59:59,827 --> 02:00:02,667
Speaker 14: Good Man, Pony, and all the best to you as well.

2418
02:00:02,827 --> 02:00:05,307
Speaker 3: All the best to you Paul, that is Paul at Wilcox,

2419
02:00:05,427 --> 02:00:08,307
Speaker 3: CEO of Walk and Thoroughbred Racing. The Boxing Day and

2420
02:00:08,387 --> 02:00:11,707
Speaker 3: New Year's Day races are back on the racing calendar,

2421
02:00:11,827 --> 02:00:14,907
Speaker 3: having been missing for the last four years. Coming up

2422
02:00:14,987 --> 02:00:17,827
Speaker 3: ten to three, the white Ferns are out on the

2423
02:00:17,827 --> 02:00:19,867
Speaker 3: middle of the base in reserve. Their target is two

2424
02:00:20,027 --> 02:00:23,307
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety two if they are to win what

2425
02:00:23,507 --> 02:00:27,827
Speaker 3: is the second Rose Bowl fifty over International against Australia.

2426
02:00:27,867 --> 02:00:30,067
Speaker 3: Of course Game one was rained out the other day,

2427
02:00:30,147 --> 02:00:32,667
Speaker 3: so in order for New Zealand to win the Rose

2428
02:00:32,747 --> 02:00:35,267
Speaker 3: Bowl they are going to have to win this game

2429
02:00:35,387 --> 02:00:38,787
Speaker 3: and the game on Monday. A one all series draw

2430
02:00:38,907 --> 02:00:42,067
Speaker 3: would not get them their Rose Bowl because Australia already

2431
02:00:42,107 --> 02:00:43,747
Speaker 3: have it, so they have to win both of these

2432
02:00:43,827 --> 02:00:47,587
Speaker 3: games in order to take it away. Susie Bates and

2433
02:00:47,827 --> 02:00:51,787
Speaker 3: Balla James On Debu have gone out to open the

2434
02:00:51,827 --> 02:00:54,227
Speaker 3: batting for New Zealand and the second ball of the

2435
02:00:54,267 --> 02:00:56,907
Speaker 3: innings is are wide, so one without loss after one

2436
02:00:57,227 --> 02:01:00,067
Speaker 3: legitimate delivery in the chase for two hundred and ninety ten,

2437
02:01:00,147 --> 02:01:02,187
Speaker 3: she's just under six and over need for New Zealand

2438
02:01:02,227 --> 02:01:04,467
Speaker 3: to win that game. Coming up nine and a half away,

2439
02:01:04,507 --> 02:01:05,587
Speaker 3: from three News Talks, he'd.

2440
02:01:05,427 --> 02:01:09,867
Speaker 10: Be freaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic Fields.

2441
02:01:11,107 --> 02:01:14,787
Speaker 12: Weekend Sport with Jason Lyme News Talk zemb.

2442
02:01:14,827 --> 02:01:17,467
Speaker 3: Six and a half away from three. That's just about

2443
02:01:17,547 --> 02:01:19,987
Speaker 3: us on weekend Sport for today. We're back for one

2444
02:01:20,067 --> 02:01:23,907
Speaker 3: final time before Christmas tomorrow between midday and three. Across

2445
02:01:23,987 --> 02:01:26,147
Speaker 3: the holiday break, we don't really go away. We're not

2446
02:01:26,227 --> 02:01:28,387
Speaker 3: going anyhere, Andy is, I'm not. I'm going to hang

2447
02:01:28,427 --> 02:01:31,187
Speaker 3: around and so we'll have weekend Sport every Saturday and

2448
02:01:31,387 --> 02:01:33,507
Speaker 3: Sunday for you. So, even though this is the last

2449
02:01:33,507 --> 02:01:35,907
Speaker 3: one before Christmas, it's not going to be a tearful

2450
02:01:35,987 --> 02:01:38,787
Speaker 3: fair well tomorrow because I'll be back next weekend. Might

2451
02:01:38,827 --> 02:01:41,147
Speaker 3: be a tearful farewell for Andy. Are you planning an

2452
02:01:41,187 --> 02:01:42,907
Speaker 3: emotional farewell on the show tomorrow?

2453
02:01:43,027 --> 02:01:43,067
Speaker 10: No?

2454
02:01:43,347 --> 02:01:44,587
Speaker 3: Why would I do that. I don't know.

2455
02:01:45,987 --> 02:01:48,187
Speaker 19: I'm just checking my contract now. I'm back next year.

2456
02:01:48,547 --> 02:01:50,347
Speaker 19: Happy days, I get a couple weeks off. I don't

2457
02:01:50,347 --> 02:01:52,587
Speaker 19: give you a tearful fearwell when I'm just taking my

2458
02:01:52,987 --> 02:01:56,987
Speaker 19: regular weeks off, do I know? So, No, it's definitely

2459
02:01:57,027 --> 02:01:58,787
Speaker 19: not going to be a tearful fairwell, piny No.

2460
02:01:58,827 --> 02:02:00,547
Speaker 3: I feel was at tend to be Philly, Curt and

2461
02:02:00,667 --> 02:02:02,867
Speaker 3: short see tomorrow kind of stuff.

2462
02:02:03,027 --> 02:02:06,107
Speaker 19: It's I thank god you're going now sort of thing.

2463
02:02:06,947 --> 02:02:09,627
Speaker 19: I'm kind of sick of your sick of seeing you.

2464
02:02:10,747 --> 02:02:12,827
Speaker 19: This is going to a very odd area, I can

2465
02:02:12,867 --> 02:02:13,307
Speaker 19: tell you though.

2466
02:02:13,347 --> 02:02:15,307
Speaker 3: On the show tomorrow, we're going to talk high performance

2467
02:02:15,307 --> 02:02:17,867
Speaker 3: sport New Zealand funding that was handed out during the week.

2468
02:02:18,067 --> 02:02:20,547
Speaker 3: There were some big winners and a couple of sports

2469
02:02:20,587 --> 02:02:22,587
Speaker 3: that perhaps had their funding cut and not perhaps they

2470
02:02:22,627 --> 02:02:24,627
Speaker 3: did have their funding cut. One of the winners though

2471
02:02:24,667 --> 02:02:26,787
Speaker 3: was Track and Field Athletics had a nice boost of

2472
02:02:26,867 --> 02:02:29,187
Speaker 3: over four hundred thousand dollars a year over the next

2473
02:02:29,227 --> 02:02:32,867
Speaker 3: Olympic cycle one point six million. So their CEO, Cam Mitchell,

2474
02:02:32,907 --> 02:02:34,187
Speaker 3: going to have a chat to us. Ben Old is

2475
02:02:34,227 --> 02:02:36,147
Speaker 3: back in the country too, injured, one of our best

2476
02:02:36,187 --> 02:02:39,347
Speaker 3: young footballers, hopefully only injured for a short time rehabbing,

2477
02:02:39,547 --> 02:02:41,387
Speaker 3: but he's gonna have a chat to us. But a basketball,

2478
02:02:41,467 --> 02:02:43,587
Speaker 3: but a cricket and lots of other bits and pieces

2479
02:02:43,627 --> 02:02:46,267
Speaker 3: on the show tomorrow as well. Thank you for tuning in.

2480
02:02:46,667 --> 02:02:48,747
Speaker 3: It's a busy time, we know it is. Andy. Thank

2481
02:02:48,787 --> 02:02:51,387
Speaker 3: you for producing the show. Before I give you your

2482
02:02:51,507 --> 02:02:53,747
Speaker 3: Kurt farewell. Do you have a farewell song for us?

2483
02:02:53,827 --> 02:02:55,467
Speaker 19: I do have a farewell song, and obviously this is

2484
02:02:55,507 --> 02:02:57,347
Speaker 19: the last song I get to choose for the year.

2485
02:02:57,427 --> 02:03:01,067
Speaker 19: So it's initially it's going to be a Christmas themed song,

2486
02:03:01,427 --> 02:03:03,667
Speaker 19: but it comes from my favorite band, Jason and I've

2487
02:03:03,707 --> 02:03:06,947
Speaker 19: only recently discovered this, but it's of the See Alamino,

2488
02:03:07,267 --> 02:03:10,787
Speaker 19: my favorite band, have recorded their own version of the

2489
02:03:10,907 --> 02:03:13,907
Speaker 19: song we Wish You Were Merry Christmas, So enjoy this.

2490
02:03:14,147 --> 02:03:18,027
Speaker 19: It's an absolute masterpiece in my personal opinion. Look, I'll

2491
02:03:18,067 --> 02:03:20,387
Speaker 19: be the judge of that, but thank you for choosing

2492
02:03:20,427 --> 02:03:22,147
Speaker 19: the song. I'll see you tomorrow.

2493
02:03:22,467 --> 02:03:25,227
Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow on the midday, on the Sunday

2494
02:03:25,867 --> 02:03:28,147
Speaker 3: week in Sport midday the real Let let's get out

2495
02:03:28,187 --> 02:03:54,907
Speaker 3: of here. You are merry. You are merry Christmas.

2496
02:03:55,107 --> 02:03:59,267
Speaker 25: We wes, you are merry Christmas Week, you were merry ques,

2497
02:04:03,107 --> 02:04:04,427
Speaker 25: you were merry Christmas.

2498
02:04:05,187 --> 02:04:06,947
Speaker 3: Question you were merry listeners.

2499
02:04:06,947 --> 02:04:11,267
Speaker 25: Sweet wish you a merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

2500
02:04:11,907 --> 02:04:15,347
Speaker 3: We won't go on to weekeet, some won't go on

2501
02:04:15,507 --> 02:04:16,147
Speaker 3: to weekend.

2502
02:04:16,307 --> 02:04:20,027
Speaker 25: Some week won't go on to we get some sobersome

2503
02:04:20,347 --> 02:04:24,507
Speaker 25: right here we we You are merry Christmas week wet,

2504
02:04:24,707 --> 02:04:29,587
Speaker 25: you are very Christmas week West, you are very Christmas Happy.

2505
02:04:33,427 --> 02:04:36,547
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2506
02:04:36,667 --> 02:04:39,987
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