WEBVTT - EP 36 - So'omalo Iteni Schwalger

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<v Speaker 1>The Flavor podcast network Island Roots Auckland Ways. This one's

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<v Speaker 2>Brown brothers and sisters who want to be one with themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>their culture, their identity, their roots. This is Island Roots

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<v Speaker 2>Auckland Ways. Twerful lover my list four, I feel my

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to one of the episode of Island Roots Aukland Ways.

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<v Speaker 3>What a note to start this episode of I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to say it so badly, Welcome back to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's guest is like literally one of our biggest.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we stand I think we actually are his biggest fans.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, truly he was called god.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, god Tia. I put that in the run sheet.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he is No, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>we can tell he's not very good at take compliment,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll just commiment about him while he's not. He

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't allegiend he is the moment Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Broadcaster worth so much experience, intel, connections to the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Truly, you can just tell, like me and someone are

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<v Speaker 2>super passionate about what they do, and man and I

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<v Speaker 2>are really into like the art of interviewing, like we

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<v Speaker 2>love to unpeck with each other, like what it's Helena

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<v Speaker 2>should be like and so it was really cool to

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<v Speaker 2>hear about his perspective on that because he's someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>so passionate about like talking to people.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what you call a broadcaster. Talk so much

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<v Speaker 3>away from that episode, and I hope you do too.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a listen right now and welcome back to Island

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<v Speaker 3>roots Auckland Ways. We have a very special guest in

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<v Speaker 3>the building. Are for your mates. I love my Oh

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<v Speaker 3>welcome to my lord. So hello, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, I've got first off, congratulations on the big

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<v Speaker 1>award and congratulations on your money.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wild, worst experience of my life? What about you

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<v Speaker 4>and your pit? What was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? Traumatic?

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<v Speaker 4>Traumatic?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like it was like four days the first week,

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<v Speaker 1>five days the last week. The last week. Decisions got

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<v Speaker 1>a little longer because I think when we booked My

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<v Speaker 1>Bitter Yeah, there was a lot of area to cover,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were like yeah, they like kept going and

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<v Speaker 1>like at one point even the COPA was like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry, and I was like so much. That is

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like a weird experience where it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>most beautiful thing you could possibly imagine and the worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing you could possibly literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Like euphoric and also the lowest pit of health possible,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was just fainted during mine. I didn't I've

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<v Speaker 2>never fainted before, so that was that was also traumatic

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't know what was happening to my body.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, what about you.

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<v Speaker 1>I never had a tattoo before that, so like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was my first tattoo. And like like ten minutes

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<v Speaker 1>or like like maybe actually it was like ten taps in.

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<v Speaker 1>I straight up thought I was gonna pute and I

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<v Speaker 1>had to ask them. I was like, please stop just

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<v Speaker 1>for a second so I could like sit up and

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<v Speaker 1>take water. And man, I just made them looking at

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<v Speaker 1>me being.

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<v Speaker 2>Like literally exactly the same. I got like ten taps

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<v Speaker 2>in and my friend Dorin was holding my hands and

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<v Speaker 2>I went.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you just tell them to stop?

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<v Speaker 2>And I just need to cough, Like I really just

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<v Speaker 2>need to take take the out off because.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to cough.

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<v Speaker 2>Cough, And then I just kind of coughed and like

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<v Speaker 2>coughed for a while. You'd be like, Okay, now I

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<v Speaker 2>know what it feels like.

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<v Speaker 4>We can keep going. But they know they were all

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<v Speaker 4>like that girl is not gonna survivee.

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<v Speaker 1>This is that thorn in your mind of like I

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<v Speaker 1>can't quit because the one was like, what for six hours?

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<v Speaker 4>Mine was eight hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hours?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they got one league done and I just

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, I'm only off for gusty.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I just.

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<v Speaker 4>I just thought that to myself. I didn't tell any

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<v Speaker 4>one that. I was really like you going.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, no congratulations.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean my heart is palpitating it right now,

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<v Speaker 3>so no, no, thank you, thank you for representing bloody

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<v Speaker 3>traumatized listening to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, I'll never forget. The worst part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>I think was like because you for me. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like we'd turn up at like nine o'clock in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning because we did our mine InSAR yeah, and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>turn up at nine in the morning and I'd wait

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<v Speaker 1>like three hours there with my mat for one of

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<v Speaker 1>the coursoles that just come over and be like now

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember like after you had finished for the day,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like all good. And because I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>working up every three hours to show. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like around midnight was when the dred started sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>and was like, oh, I gotta do this again tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'd start the conditioning started sounding like that

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<v Speaker 1>tapping and like just little things like that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like that was the from like midnight to

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<v Speaker 1>nine o'clock the next morning was the worst. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>think the thought of it coming up was almost worse

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<v Speaker 1>experience because at least you're in it and you're like, mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this will be done in a couple of hours. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but the not knowing, the anxiousness of the lead up

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<v Speaker 1>to it was like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the tapping.

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<v Speaker 2>I went and saw my friend Dora and get his

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<v Speaker 2>because we got ours in the group obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>And.

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<v Speaker 2>After I saw him on the first day and hearing

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<v Speaker 2>him like moaning and agony, I had like dreams for

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<v Speaker 2>the next two weeks of the tapping sound and like

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<v Speaker 2>that moaning and like it was just yeah, pretty awful actually,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>A genuine it's genuinely very top The hardest part, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is in your mind. Yeah, like it's the it's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest battle. The thing that kep me going was

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<v Speaker 1>I was very lucky to do it with my granddad there,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was really special, you know, because I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the first up from my grandfather's line to do

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<v Speaker 1>it since like before Villheim, which is the German Schwelger

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<v Speaker 1>who came. So it was like a big my granddad

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<v Speaker 1>kep saying like you weren't the grandson I thought was

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<v Speaker 1>going to do this, the widest one. But he's very

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<v Speaker 1>happy for me. And I was like that keep me going.

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<v Speaker 1>But otherwise like man, yeah, there was there was a

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<v Speaker 1>there was another old fellow there. He was like in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies and he was doing his again. Oh yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was redoing his because it had faded a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a time and he was redoing it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at him and I was just like, man. And

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<v Speaker 1>there was another sumum follow there who kept falling asleep

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<v Speaker 1>during your sessions because he was just handling it so well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I looked at him and I was like, I mean, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was falling asleeep, but I think I might have been

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<v Speaker 2>actually like fainting, like it was like many I was dying.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like, oh, yeah, we're still here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the congratulations you got through it, thank you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah thig fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>Shall we bring our spirits up?

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<v Speaker 1>Ye?

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<v Speaker 2>Every week on the podcast, we talked about where we

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<v Speaker 2>love about home, whether it's where you live, where you

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<v Speaker 2>were born, maybe it's back home in Samoa where you

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<v Speaker 2>feel most grounded.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll go first, Mayes. What do you love about home?

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<v Speaker 4>This week?

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<v Speaker 3>Coming off the CEV discussion, What I love about home

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<v Speaker 3>is I've always lived close to a diary, so I

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<v Speaker 3>never take that for granted. Just growing to go buy

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<v Speaker 3>a ladder on Saturday for some activities and take the

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<v Speaker 3>lot I live close to a diary, got me a

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<v Speaker 3>power aid and I had a good night.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love that for you.

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<v Speaker 3>And I also love close to an establishment, an eatery

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<v Speaker 3>so to speak. And it's one of those hood eateries.

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<v Speaker 3>I can always just trust on it. If I'm hungover,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got somewhere to go eat. I can walk there.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have to drive, just easy. And it's like

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<v Speaker 3>there's a laundry as well, like it's very handy.

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<v Speaker 1>Eats from the eatery that's like next door to you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but I have driven. I literally lived like two

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<v Speaker 3>houses away. But I don't want to be seen like that.

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<v Speaker 3>My crocs and my warehouse chack hands not.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you calling a hen or are you just going

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<v Speaker 2>and ordering and then sitting in your car just going.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really no brain capacity through I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't think nice.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you love about home?

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<v Speaker 2>Growl Well, since my law is here and he's like

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<v Speaker 2>iconic music journalist number one up there, No truly number one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take that music journal energy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>South CP came out, it would be probably out for

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<v Speaker 2>about like a month now, no three weeks on a week,

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<v Speaker 2>literally a week. But by the time this comes out

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<v Speaker 2>weeks about three weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's patent.

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<v Speaker 2>Is just the best, and like he's just such a

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<v Speaker 2>nice person and this music is just so freaking good.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was very lucky to go to his EP

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<v Speaker 2>release party last week and I got to meet his

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<v Speaker 2>A made partner, Esh. I know you're listening and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with you so thinks wire being so nice but

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<v Speaker 2>also thanks making great music past and it's just so

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<v Speaker 2>fucking good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what about you? What I love about I I

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<v Speaker 1>I love how rude Auckland can be at times very grounded.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing like people don't understand when I say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you become the best driver possible when you live in Auckland.

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<v Speaker 1>Mess I live, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, like like how people think of New York,

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<v Speaker 1>I think of Auckland, like as soon as it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a noxiousness to Auckland is but people see it as

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<v Speaker 1>like a bad thing. I take it as like a

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<v Speaker 1>like a badge bonner, like like I can start vive

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest but like, but period.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, are you from rewhere?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm genuinely direc from. I'm a white boy who's speak

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<v Speaker 1>someone and it's from Gleenfield.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait really Foodfield?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 1>The movie ruined my life to be very proud of.

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<v Speaker 1>We were from like an bricking and beach table would

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<v Speaker 1>be like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, don't be a hater, be a player, congratulator.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I know, I know she studied it. What did

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<v Speaker 3>I know about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>But you live in South Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I love in SOUTHLK. I have. I've lived in South

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<v Speaker 1>Okland for I think in total like ten years by

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in glen I've lived all over Auckland. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very grateful for it. I've lived in the CBD, I've

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Greenfield, i lived in glean Eating. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very great because I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Wait, I've just realized we didn't congratulate you on

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<v Speaker 2>your engagements.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to say, I was going to yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's so exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>We we were just talking about it. Last night. We

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<v Speaker 1>were like sitting down and being like, so when are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to do? But we're We're like, I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>My fiance is very private, she likes her you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's very low key. And I've founders, I've gotten older,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very I like just not being in that I

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<v Speaker 1>picked the worst career possible to want to keep me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like one of those tough things, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very grateful.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We're thinking of doing like a just my parents who

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<v Speaker 1>appearents waiting. We even considering just going courthouse and doing

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<v Speaker 1>it there, like because like are expensive. I'd rather go holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather, you know, like buy a house. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about that. We want to have children and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and that stuff just seems like more of a priority

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<v Speaker 1>than throwing a party for other people. Fair enough, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. It's it's a yeah. I did it on

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<v Speaker 1>I did it on Masiki and we were up. We

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<v Speaker 1>went up the moment and I was up the top.

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<v Speaker 1>There was like sixty seventy people trying to engage it

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like this, and I think the first

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<v Speaker 1>words that came out of her mouth she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck here, and I was like yes or no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like five degrees there, which said yes eventually, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like life changing, I guess, but for two

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<v Speaker 4>private people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. She was like, please don't like so many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, it's like it's a it was. It was strange,

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't even want to post it on social

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<v Speaker 1>media because I just felt weird about like this thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's very special to me personally and putting it out

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<v Speaker 1>there into the world. And like it took a little while,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was like, I'm very proud of this, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very happy this is something that's special. You should

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, yeah, but I was very anxious posting it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then like just the and it like went on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram's explore page or something like that, and that only

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<v Speaker 1>strange and I was just like, the worst one could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love so I'm very sorry about that. So

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>We love around here. So my law, it's without saying

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<v Speaker 3>that you are a broadcaster that we both look up to,

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<v Speaker 3>and you just got the best questions in the game,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no two ways about it. Tell us about your

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<v Speaker 3>journey into broadcasting, did you always see this for yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, no, no, no, I dropped that. I dropped out

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<v Speaker 1>school at like fourteen fifteen. Yeah, I had to take

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<v Speaker 1>my dad with me to the school to sign out

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<v Speaker 1>because I like, I was too young to drop out

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<v Speaker 1>on my own. Yeah, I didn't think because my old

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<v Speaker 1>man has been a panel beater for thirty forty years

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<v Speaker 1>and he still works at the same place, and he

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<v Speaker 1>eventually the owner soldier to my dad. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like in my head in high school, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be a panel beaterer. That's it. But my

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<v Speaker 1>dad was like very much like I don't know. As

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<v Speaker 1>I got older, I understood it, but at the time

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<v Speaker 1>it was like Dad was like, I came here to

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<v Speaker 1>this country in the eighties. I made sacrifices. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want you to do this. He's like, you could do this, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was like, I want you to do something

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<v Speaker 1>else too. I got sent to some more I came home.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, education is really important. I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>want a good job. And I when got like my

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<v Speaker 1>certificate Tertiary Foundations.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I guess it was just a period where

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<v Speaker 1>I was like I don't know what I'm gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to make money. And I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>get paid a lot of money in radio.

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<v Speaker 4>You thought it was damn yeah, people think that, think.

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<v Speaker 1>That all of our and then it's your working eighty

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<v Speaker 1>hours a week other forty hours as about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope I can pay my bills. Yeah, it was. I

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I loved music. I love music, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was like a pull to it, and like

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<v Speaker 1>as kids, like radio was cool to us, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember, I have so many vivid memories of getting

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<v Speaker 1>dropped off to school listening to the radio, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was working at my dad's panel shop, listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>radio man when the radio stations would come and like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they do those giveaways, they drop off lunches

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<v Speaker 1>to workshops and things like that, and that was so cool,

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship we with radio presenters. It was so meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>to me, like having that friend you'd never met. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the time, like when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>like you'd never you didn't even know what they looked like.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I remember getting shocks when you'd see billboards and

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<v Speaker 1>we're like yeah, so like I had, I always loved

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<v Speaker 1>the radio. I never genuinely thought I'd get a job

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and then when I went to radio school,

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<v Speaker 1>just the stars aligned. I was tour driving for Swiss

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<v Speaker 1>Tree and Semi j Wowkland because my radio school is Downkland.

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<v Speaker 3>Instagram Serenity.

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<v Speaker 1>Were like, hey, we know this kild school. You should

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<v Speaker 1>give him a shot, and he took a bit on

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<v Speaker 1>me and it's just kind of been my life ever since. Really, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so cool. You spent many years at you Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think just eight eight years shy of nine maybe

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. That was I like was there from

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<v Speaker 1>like eighteen through to twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a formative years. Yeah yeah, and like

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<v Speaker 1>just having Yeah, that was the thing. Like I really

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<v Speaker 1>grew up here and I was the youngest person at

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<v Speaker 1>new EFIM for like five years or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Wister guy took that from me. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, And it was just it was a really

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<v Speaker 1>special time to grow up there. I like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>people know me now as being Simon, but when I

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<v Speaker 1>first started there, I didn't. I was always proud to

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<v Speaker 1>be someone, but I really didn't know anything. So being

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<v Speaker 1>at new EFIM like really helped me get in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with my culture. And my heritage and then something I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like super grateful for. It was a yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a really special time to me and I

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<v Speaker 1>always hold that place near in theater my heart because

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<v Speaker 1>they really helped shape me to be who I am today,

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<v Speaker 1>not just like on a professional level, but just on

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<v Speaker 1>a personal level. It was a really special time for me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very cheesy. I'm very sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>We love the cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so that's so epic, especially when we think about

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<v Speaker 2>broadcasting and how it has necessarily been super kind to

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<v Speaker 2>our communities. It's really really cool that you were able

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<v Speaker 2>to enter a space where you felt like really like

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<v Speaker 2>you were able to grow in that confidence and then

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<v Speaker 2>also create representations for our people. So how do you

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<v Speaker 2>feel to be part of that community of broadcasters who

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<v Speaker 2>are really trying to accurately represent our communities?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I didn't think I was, like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but it kind of just happens when you

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<v Speaker 1>work in Pacific media. It's it's really special. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>great honor. It's it's a lot of pressure, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you I think people, I think people get stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>the trap of like Pacific culture is salmon culture. When

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<v Speaker 1>you work working at PMN, you realize it's not just us,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you, I mean song and you when

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<v Speaker 1>Tuvalon Lao Fiji. There's so many Micronesian Melanesian Polynesian. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just and youve got to realize that representation goes

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<v Speaker 1>beyond just you. I mean, I know someone's are overrepresented

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<v Speaker 1>in media, but you know, I think it's about ensuring

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<v Speaker 1>that we can bring through other communities and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I never thought i'd be that representation because

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<v Speaker 1>look at me, but it just kind of happened, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm very grateful. I don't I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the representation as per se. I've sort of found

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<v Speaker 1>myself in a position where I'm able to provide opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to other generations to be their representation through music. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting down and chatting with young people that are doing

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<v Speaker 1>really cool stuff in the community, but like musicians that

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<v Speaker 1>are just crushing it. I want them to be the stars.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really, as per se, want to be the star.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, ours privileged coming out of New EFMS,

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<v Speaker 1>I have so many role models. I mean there was

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<v Speaker 1>before I even started, there was Oscar Twelo, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that new e Fan Nixon, Nate sell Up or

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<v Speaker 1>Jendles Nico and a Corbett, There's so many people to

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<v Speaker 1>look up to coming out, and it was a yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't consider myself in the same realm as them.

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<v Speaker 1>They've done some phenomenal things, but I think I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm grateful that I get to be in a position

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, Hey, here's these really cool people doing

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<v Speaker 1>really cool stuff in the community. Let's celebrate them and

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<v Speaker 1>learn more about them. Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say, because TAHI is not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>like a Pacific focused podcast. When you're like reaching out

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<v Speaker 2>to people or when you're brainstorming people to bring onto

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast, are you specifically being like, no, they need

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<v Speaker 2>to be Maldir pasificer or is that kind of just

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<v Speaker 2>something that happens like naturally.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, It's been really interesting for me career wise

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<v Speaker 1>because pim Ino was like, we're about our bussfeker and

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<v Speaker 1>now it's about expanding that because we're trying to target

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<v Speaker 1>not just bus speakers, We're talking mad youth, Southeast Asian youth,

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. We're trying to like really represent

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<v Speaker 1>young people as a whole, which is very difficult. We're

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<v Speaker 1>such a diverse city a diverse country that it's like

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<v Speaker 1>we got to sit there and we gotta like consider

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<v Speaker 1>that we're we're making sure everyone's voices are heard. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really difficult, but it's a fun challenge and the people

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<v Speaker 1>they would get through a phenomenal because, like, I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>so much more. I've gotten a step outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>BUSFEKA community and see what's that thing out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>still think we're the best, but like I get to

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<v Speaker 1>see all the other cool things that are going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, man, like young people are the

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<v Speaker 1>circus generation. Like this young generation are doing I did

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<v Speaker 1>not have my life together there doing all this really

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<v Speaker 1>cool stuff and I'm like, man, you're a way ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of me. It's yeah, it's a new challenge, but it's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the city and country is so diverse and

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<v Speaker 1>getting to celebrate that's like, man, sick.

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<v Speaker 3>How has that adjustment been moving into mainstream? Coming from

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<v Speaker 3>p men and going to Radio New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's when you leave a network that's all brown, you're

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<v Speaker 1>always going to have a different experience. But that's not

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<v Speaker 1>to say the experience is bad. I've been very fortunate

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<v Speaker 1>and provide a lot of opportunities to really celebrate and

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<v Speaker 1>champion young busspeaker people, which put a lot of trust

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<v Speaker 1>and faith in me, and man has been scary, but

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like, I'm very grateful for that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's still public service media, you know, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is something I'm well adjusted to, is working

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<v Speaker 1>in public service. And yeah, the hands to the question

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm I'm grateful that I've been able to no

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<v Speaker 1>matter where I go, people are like, you can celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>bus speaker people. Nobody's ever stopped me, nobody's ever question that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just like that, you know, Sort mine probably knows

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<v Speaker 1>what he's talking about, Yeah, which is going to trust them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been so grateful that that people feel that

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<v Speaker 1>way about me, that I have a reputation to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a trusted person like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of that trust comes from your

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<v Speaker 3>previous experience and the name that you've built for yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when it comes to interviewing. Honestly, I tell you

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:02.639
<v Speaker 3>every one that Sort my Law was probably the best interviewer.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm bad with compliments, That's true. I remember back to

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<v Speaker 3>your New FM dates. The questions were just questioning. You

0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 3>have a way of speaking to your guests in such

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<v Speaker 3>an intimate way, like crazy, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Really get the best out of your guests.

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<v Speaker 2>You.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you go about preparing for an interview?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't prep don't well, I I research.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't prep questions. Okay. That's the key thing to

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<v Speaker 1>me is because I think, you know, like in a

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<v Speaker 1>radio in particular, we talk about you being a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>like talking to each other like very casually, whereas the

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 1>American presenters like you performative. And that's how I like

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to go into the interviews, is like I think, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get a talent to let a guard

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<v Speaker 1>down and just speak to you as a person, that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the beauty of it to me, the passion that

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<v Speaker 1>all these people have because you can prepare your questions

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<v Speaker 1>as much as you like, and that's great. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that there's people out there who are like really well

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<v Speaker 1>media trained, but I'm not looking for that. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know. It's not like I'm looking for the exclusive.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to hear you speak like a human

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<v Speaker 1>about something, especially because artists love the art. Yeah, so

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 1>let me hear you get passionate, like let me hear

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<v Speaker 1>your love for this thing that you love, and like

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<v Speaker 1>we love it too. Like I always do the research

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<v Speaker 1>on my guest. I always want to know as much

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<v Speaker 1>as I can about them, but there's certain things that

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know about them because there's just

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 1>like so much stuff that comes naturally in conversation. I

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<v Speaker 1>was really inspired by a zay Low, Yeah New Zealander.

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<v Speaker 1>His interview style is very it's very personabal, it's very casual,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very conversation, very.

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<v Speaker 3>Very cute, and.

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<v Speaker 4>So by the time this episode comes out.

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<v Speaker 1>There, I just like that idea of just like getting

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to let their guard down and just speak to

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<v Speaker 1>you and get comfortable with you. And like I'm I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I have been told that I have a

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<v Speaker 1>very wristing goon face. I can look very grumpy quite often,

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and some people think of me that way. So I

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<v Speaker 1>really work hard to make my guests just feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>and know that this is a safe space. Know that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if they say things that they don't really

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<v Speaker 1>want in the interview, like afterwards, because sometimes you get

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>people too comfortable, yeah, and they just open up a

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 1>little too much, and then afterwards you have to go

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>back and be like, oh, they're like I don't actually

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.120
<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable sharing that. I'm like, that's fine. Yeah, that's

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 1>so fine.

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<v Speaker 2>We've recorded a few solo episodes and because like Marinon

0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 2>and I are beasties, I'm like I did this, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm like, oh, hey, so I actually don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to release that episode at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the two of you having a real conversation, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he realized this has to go to the war.

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<v Speaker 4>People will listen to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And and man, have you ever read a TikTok commentiction?

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Don't even start with TikTok, It's a waste.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some critins on that. Satan himself honestly mix

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>like that's weird, that's the comments. So like you ever

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 1>put like I've said something really personal and meaningful to

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation has just been like and it will crush?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you want?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I don't care what people have to say. What

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like, man, like, yeah, yeah.

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 2>We did like a silly comedy video and someone wrote

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 2>dry in the comments and I was like, I'm not dry,

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm hilarious.

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Where it's just like dumb no, it's not.

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.440
<v Speaker 3>But what did you find dumb? Tell me more?

0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Someone someone keeps calling me by my English name, and

0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the time he comments, they're just like, man, there's Ethan.

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<v Speaker 3>I sucks.

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, who told you?

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>So?

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I know somebody from like high school or something like that.

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>You want to find them one day. So like, when

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>it comes to getting a gift, to get comfortable, like

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you have to put measures in place to let them

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 1>know that it's safe to be open and will make

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>amendments if they don't feel comfortable with stuff. Yeah. Like

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.199
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the process, I like, I just

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>know what I want to get out of it when

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:29.479
<v Speaker 1>I go into prepping the interview on just like, these

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>are the things that I want to learn. How we

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:37.640
<v Speaker 1>get there is irrelevant because I I did an interview

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>produced an interview for me years ago, and she was

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>in my ear telling me off because I wasn't actually

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>listening to the guest I had. I was just listening

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 1>for my turn. Yeah, you know, like you're like, Okay,

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>they're finished talking, here's my next question. Yeah, And that

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 1>stuck with me because she was all right, I wasn't

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>listening to anything they had to say. I was just

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>listening for the breath me to be like, okay, now

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 1>tell me about this. And I know that in in

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>radio you get like three to five minutes for a

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>break to ask these questions. Very difficult, but that's sort

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>of the beauty of being able to do a podcast.

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I can I commit those answers, breathe, yeah, break them down,

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>ask more questions and things like that, which is yeah,

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I think we're like my strength lives isn't just talking

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.919
<v Speaker 1>to people. That's what I enjoy the most. And honestly

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about myself today has been very difficult. I hope

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 1>I've answered questions absolutely.

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, listen, who's one of those gifts that

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 2>you've walked away from being?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I killed that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:42.640
<v Speaker 4>Like that was a great chat.

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I the movement, Oh, I love that. The movement is

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>a I mean movers not only just incredible community leader,

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:55.439
<v Speaker 1>but being able to pick his brain. He's so smart.

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I call him sometimes and just ask for advice on things,

0:27:58.000 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and he gives me that time even though he's a

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>has been right. Yeah yeah, so he'll like he'll call back,

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and he's calling he's not even calling me on FaceTime.

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Like that was a great interview. I felt very proud

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>about that A Radna. Yeah, I got the interview a

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 1>Radna and it was so special to me because I'm like,

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>I like knew her for like eight years working at

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.880
<v Speaker 1>New ethan like I'd just feature from reception and take

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>her to the other shows. And that was the first

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.479
<v Speaker 1>time I actually got to sit down interview with myself.

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.439
<v Speaker 1>And he's very grateful for that, Yeah, and hearing her

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>journey and things like that. Yeah, there's been some man, honestly,

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>they have done so many interviews, like it's hard, but

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>those were two standouts, especially from last year that really

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>stuck with me that like I walked away from and

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I think I was like, I did good service to

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>those musicians, the talent, and I think I serviced my

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 1>listenership by giving them a valuable product. Here's a good

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>interview for you, yeah, to enjoy.

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 3>We have got our rapid fire Kim this week, which

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 3>is guy I swear eight with this game. So this

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 3>is what we're going to do. We are going to

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 3>ask my law question and he has the option to

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 3>either answer or should he wished to plead the fifth,

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 3>he can take the shot of cover my law to

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 3>four shells cover from VTS, not from the theory. All right,

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 3>I've got some Christians here. Did you want to read

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 3>the Yeah?

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 4>Sure, okay, your first Christian sort.

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there should be some dramatic music keptening

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 2>right now. I'm just mentioning your mind. Who's the rudest

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 2>person you've even interviewed.

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>That we've got? Sorry, answer question, Okay, I'll put it

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>out there. I haven't had a really bad interview. Okay,

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>but I've had some Yeah, yeah, I haven't had any

0:29:55.760 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>like like what a diva. They haven't walked down Oh yeah, yeah,

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 1>but I've had someones where I was just like, hmmm,

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>that happened.

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, be like that. Okay, question number so, how do

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 3>you feel about I Love I love it?

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Now? I want to answer that I have to. I

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>think that it can put unnecessary strain on people trying

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 1>to survive in a world that is not particularly kind.

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Times are tough. My groceries are up two hundred bucks,

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, like petrols up, and like some people just

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>can't afford it. Like, I mean, I get I see,

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I see the impact that I Love Love is have

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 1>when they go back home. They can do amazing things.

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, it's not all fairy tales and

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>rainbows and like that here, like times are really tough.

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that I understand and respect the cultural importance

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and value of them, but I think we need to

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>look at them differently because when they were invented, we

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>weren't under capitalism, so we need to review how that

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.479
<v Speaker 1>works and our families can still contribute, but without like

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>my like strained. Yeah.

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I love that we're taking a title.

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 4>Like a last question, should girls be able to show

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 4>their mud?

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean like yes, like you guys already know

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, because yes, Like I think that's

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like I don't know people think that

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>my ancestors will pants or something, you know, like put

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>like women wear them. They have significance in that's all

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>The significance is to be shown, yeah, to show them off.

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Like why can I wear short shorts and show them

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>off and woman can't.

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 2>This is something that I have come across. When my

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 2>guy friend show their pit, it's there's like a like

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>a oh my gosh, you got your like it's like

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 2>a really cool thing like me, and there's like a

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 2>camaraderie almost.

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I wore pants for two years

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>after it just.

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 4>Like the level of cell covers through the rum.

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then yeah, I'll go running in my little

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 2>running shorts and I just see people driving past, Like

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 2>but you.

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Know what when you get back to someone, like they're

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>shown Like I didn't see that conservatives as much in

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>the Islands. Like when I got back, I see girls

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>wearing their shorts and things like that, chewing it off,

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, man, shot it off, Like you went

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>through this thing, you contributed to our society, our culture. Man,

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>show it off like you Like, do you know who's

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>always allowed us about this stuff? People that don't have them, Like,

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>oh my what the yearly Twitter debate comes up and

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>people are like, oh yeah, you know, if you don't speak,

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>it's shut up. Yeah, And it's all people that don't

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>have just like shut up you. The thing is, at

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, we nearly lost this really

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>beautiful things colonization. We should not lose it because of

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>what gatekeeping. Yeah, it's yeah, like I think everyone should

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>show them. I don't know, I think it's I think

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>it's weirdo behavior to police all body about something that's

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>so special, like or just in general, to be honest

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:04.719
<v Speaker 1>with you period.

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, my top three quotes from this episode just try

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 2>shut up weirdo behavior.

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Editorials.

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 4>My boss is gonna be like, we're gonna hold that episode.

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 3>I hope this was okay.

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I very really sit down and talk about myself. And

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>it's so strange to be only but I really appreciate

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>what you both do. I think that this is a

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>really special show because it doesn't just I think like

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you don't just celebrate musicians, you celebrate everyone from every

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>background and all these different cultures. I think you have

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>something really important here, like don't give just keep going,

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Like you guys have developed something really special. And I

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>think the stories that you hear two are really important

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>because they're not just the usual stories. There's stories from

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 1>so many different facets of society. This is this is

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>really unique. This is really special, and I mean, you've

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>both been young people. It's incredible voices to have, Like,

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm very honored to be here.

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 4>We're so thanks so much for saying that.

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I think you guys have done something really cool and

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 1>it's really cool to see it thrive, like and that's

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>why you guys got the award. Many well deserving all this.

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 3>I also am very bad at taking Yeah, very quiet,

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 3>it's just.

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for joining us.

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>Call me here.

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 2>You can listen to on all the podcast platforms releases

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Tuesday and Thursday, and you can find all medal on Instagram.

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 1>It's don't find me, h, I don't want. I think

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>it's my.

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 3>But we'll catch you on the every Tuesday and Thursday.

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes you will hopefully.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you, sort of thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah so my low icon' legion moment host of the

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<v Speaker 4>Tay podcast, which you can find on I think pretty

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<v Speaker 4>much all streaming platforms just like us, just like first

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<v Speaker 4>us first please then.

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<v Speaker 3>We love them. We do, Yeah, we do.

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<v Speaker 2>You can listen to mo iral every Thursday for episodes

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<v Speaker 2>coming out. I've also got clips out on the socials

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<v Speaker 2>literally trying. Please please like and comment and I'll reply

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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<v Speaker 4>If that's what she wants, she.

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<v Speaker 3>Will Alsa's comments background.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really trying. You're about hiding us, hiding up.

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<v Speaker 4>On the ma langa.

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<v Speaker 3>Make you very much, please pay her bill. She's trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get into influence.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone out there specifically looking for like an uber sponsorship

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<v Speaker 2>or an awkward transport sponsorship. Just so I can get

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<v Speaker 2>around the town.

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<v Speaker 3>They should put a so for the next run, and

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<v Speaker 3>let's form outself. Let's teach them how to catch the bus. Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>I can definitely do that.

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<v Speaker 3>She can, She's got that under her belt.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, thank you guys, see you on the socials at

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<v Speaker 4>I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she got it right this time. Bye.