Speaker 1: The Flavor podcast network Island Roots Auckland Ways. This one's
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Speaker 2: Brown brothers and sisters who want to be one with themselves,
Speaker 2: their culture, their identity, their roots. This is Island Roots
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Speaker 2: Welcome to one of the episode of Island Roots Aukland Ways.
Speaker 3: What a note to start this episode of I wanted
Speaker 3: to say it so badly, Welcome back to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Today's guest is like literally one of our biggest.
Speaker 4: Like we stand I think we actually are his biggest fans.
Speaker 3: No, no, truly he was called god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, god Tia. I put that in the run sheet.
Speaker 2: I feel like he is No, I feel like I
Speaker 2: we can tell he's not very good at take compliment,
Speaker 2: so we'll just commiment about him while he's not. He
Speaker 2: and I can't allegiend he is the moment Yeah.
Speaker 3: Broadcaster worth so much experience, intel, connections to the industry.
Speaker 2: Truly, you can just tell, like me and someone are
Speaker 2: super passionate about what they do, and man and I
Speaker 2: are really into like the art of interviewing, like we
Speaker 2: love to unpeck with each other, like what it's Helena
Speaker 2: should be like and so it was really cool to
Speaker 2: hear about his perspective on that because he's someone who's
Speaker 2: so passionate about like talking to people.
Speaker 3: That is what you call a broadcaster. Talk so much
Speaker 3: away from that episode, and I hope you do too.
Speaker 3: Have a listen right now and welcome back to Island
Speaker 3: roots Auckland Ways. We have a very special guest in
Speaker 3: the building. Are for your mates. I love my Oh
Speaker 3: welcome to my lord. So hello, how are you.
Speaker 1: I'm good, I've got first off, congratulations on the big
Speaker 1: award and congratulations on your money.
Speaker 4: Oh wild, worst experience of my life? What about you
Speaker 4: and your pit? What was that?
Speaker 1: Like? Traumatic?
Speaker 4: Traumatic?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it was like four days the first week,
Speaker 1: five days the last week. The last week. Decisions got
Speaker 1: a little longer because I think when we booked My
Speaker 1: Bitter Yeah, there was a lot of area to cover,
Speaker 1: so they were like yeah, they like kept going and
Speaker 1: like at one point even the COPA was like I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry, and I was like so much. That is
Speaker 1: like it's like a weird experience where it's like the
Speaker 1: most beautiful thing you could possibly imagine and the worst
Speaker 1: thing you could possibly literally.
Speaker 2: Like euphoric and also the lowest pit of health possible,
Speaker 2: Like it was just fainted during mine. I didn't I've
Speaker 2: never fainted before, so that was that was also traumatic
Speaker 2: because I didn't know what was happening to my body.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, what about you.
Speaker 1: I never had a tattoo before that, so like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was my first tattoo. And like like ten minutes
Speaker 1: or like like maybe actually it was like ten taps in.
Speaker 1: I straight up thought I was gonna pute and I
Speaker 1: had to ask them. I was like, please stop just
Speaker 1: for a second so I could like sit up and
Speaker 1: take water. And man, I just made them looking at
Speaker 1: me being.
Speaker 2: Like literally exactly the same. I got like ten taps
Speaker 2: in and my friend Dorin was holding my hands and
Speaker 2: I went.
Speaker 4: Can you just tell them to stop?
Speaker 2: And I just need to cough, Like I really just
Speaker 2: need to take take the out off because.
Speaker 4: I need to cough.
Speaker 2: Cough, And then I just kind of coughed and like
Speaker 2: coughed for a while. You'd be like, Okay, now I
Speaker 2: know what it feels like.
Speaker 4: We can keep going. But they know they were all
Speaker 4: like that girl is not gonna survivee.
Speaker 1: This is that thorn in your mind of like I
Speaker 1: can't quit because the one was like, what for six hours?
Speaker 4: Mine was eight hours?
Speaker 1: Eight hours?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they got one league done and I just
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I'm only off for gusty.
Speaker 3: Maybe I just.
Speaker 4: I just thought that to myself. I didn't tell any
Speaker 4: one that. I was really like you going.
Speaker 1: Guys, no congratulations.
Speaker 3: No, I mean my heart is palpitating it right now,
Speaker 3: so no, no, thank you, thank you for representing bloody
Speaker 3: traumatized listening to them.
Speaker 1: I remember, I'll never forget. The worst part of it,
Speaker 1: I think was like because you for me. It was
Speaker 1: like we'd turn up at like nine o'clock in the
Speaker 1: morning because we did our mine InSAR yeah, and we'd
Speaker 1: turn up at nine in the morning and I'd wait
Speaker 1: like three hours there with my mat for one of
Speaker 1: the coursoles that just come over and be like now
Speaker 1: and I remember like after you had finished for the day,
Speaker 1: it was like all good. And because I was getting
Speaker 1: working up every three hours to show. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like around midnight was when the dred started sitting in
Speaker 1: and was like, oh, I gotta do this again tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And then I'd start the conditioning started sounding like that
Speaker 1: tapping and like just little things like that, and I
Speaker 1: was just like that was the from like midnight to
Speaker 1: nine o'clock the next morning was the worst. Like I
Speaker 1: think the thought of it coming up was almost worse
Speaker 1: experience because at least you're in it and you're like, mean,
Speaker 1: this will be done in a couple of hours. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the not knowing, the anxiousness of the lead up
Speaker 1: to it was like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the tapping.
Speaker 2: I went and saw my friend Dora and get his
Speaker 2: because we got ours in the group obviously.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: After I saw him on the first day and hearing
Speaker 2: him like moaning and agony, I had like dreams for
Speaker 2: the next two weeks of the tapping sound and like
Speaker 2: that moaning and like it was just yeah, pretty awful actually,
Speaker 2: like it's.
Speaker 1: A genuine it's genuinely very top The hardest part, I
Speaker 1: think is in your mind. Yeah, like it's the it's
Speaker 1: the biggest battle. The thing that kep me going was
Speaker 1: I was very lucky to do it with my granddad there,
Speaker 1: and that was really special, you know, because I'm the
Speaker 1: I'm the first up from my grandfather's line to do
Speaker 1: it since like before Villheim, which is the German Schwelger
Speaker 1: who came. So it was like a big my granddad
Speaker 1: kep saying like you weren't the grandson I thought was
Speaker 1: going to do this, the widest one. But he's very
Speaker 1: happy for me. And I was like that keep me going.
Speaker 1: But otherwise like man, yeah, there was there was a
Speaker 1: there was another old fellow there. He was like in
Speaker 1: the seventies and he was doing his again. Oh yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was redoing his because it had faded a bit
Speaker 1: of a time and he was redoing it. And I
Speaker 1: looked at him and I was just like, man. And
Speaker 1: there was another sumum follow there who kept falling asleep
Speaker 1: during your sessions because he was just handling it so well.
Speaker 1: And I looked at him and I was like, I mean, wow,
Speaker 1: you Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Was falling asleeep, but I think I might have been
Speaker 2: actually like fainting, like it was like many I was dying.
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, yeah, we're still here.
Speaker 1: Okay, the congratulations you got through it, thank you?
Speaker 4: Yeah thig fuck.
Speaker 3: Shall we bring our spirits up?
Speaker 1: Ye?
Speaker 2: Every week on the podcast, we talked about where we
Speaker 2: love about home, whether it's where you live, where you
Speaker 2: were born, maybe it's back home in Samoa where you
Speaker 2: feel most grounded.
Speaker 4: We'll go first, Mayes. What do you love about home?
Speaker 4: This week?
Speaker 3: Coming off the CEV discussion, What I love about home
Speaker 3: is I've always lived close to a diary, so I
Speaker 3: never take that for granted. Just growing to go buy
Speaker 3: a ladder on Saturday for some activities and take the
Speaker 3: lot I live close to a diary, got me a
Speaker 3: power aid and I had a good night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that for you.
Speaker 3: And I also love close to an establishment, an eatery
Speaker 3: so to speak. And it's one of those hood eateries.
Speaker 3: I can always just trust on it. If I'm hungover,
Speaker 3: I've got somewhere to go eat. I can walk there.
Speaker 3: I don't have to drive, just easy. And it's like
Speaker 3: there's a laundry as well, like it's very handy.
Speaker 1: Eats from the eatery that's like next door to you.
Speaker 3: No, but I have driven. I literally lived like two
Speaker 3: houses away. But I don't want to be seen like that.
Speaker 3: My crocs and my warehouse chack hands not.
Speaker 2: Are you calling a hen or are you just going
Speaker 2: and ordering and then sitting in your car just going.
Speaker 3: That's really no brain capacity through I.
Speaker 4: Don't think nice.
Speaker 3: What do you love about home?
Speaker 2: Growl Well, since my law is here and he's like
Speaker 2: iconic music journalist number one up there, No truly number one.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take that music journal energy.
Speaker 4: It's great.
Speaker 2: South CP came out, it would be probably out for
Speaker 2: about like a month now, no three weeks on a week,
Speaker 2: literally a week. But by the time this comes out
Speaker 2: weeks about three weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's patent.
Speaker 2: Is just the best, and like he's just such a
Speaker 2: nice person and this music is just so freaking good.
Speaker 2: And I was very lucky to go to his EP
Speaker 2: release party last week and I got to meet his
Speaker 2: A made partner, Esh. I know you're listening and I'm
Speaker 2: obsessed with you so thinks wire being so nice but
Speaker 2: also thanks making great music past and it's just so
Speaker 2: fucking good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you? What I love about I I
Speaker 1: I love how rude Auckland can be at times very grounded.
Speaker 1: There's nothing like people don't understand when I say, like,
Speaker 1: you become the best driver possible when you live in Auckland.
Speaker 1: Mess I live, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Part of it.
Speaker 1: I think that, like like how people think of New York,
Speaker 1: I think of Auckland, like as soon as it's like
Speaker 1: a noxiousness to Auckland is but people see it as
Speaker 1: like a bad thing. I take it as like a
Speaker 1: like a badge bonner, like like I can start vive
Speaker 1: the toughest but like, but period.
Speaker 4: Yeah, are you from rewhere?
Speaker 1: I'm genuinely direc from. I'm a white boy who's speak
Speaker 1: someone and it's from Gleenfield.
Speaker 4: Wait really Foodfield?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: The movie ruined my life to be very proud of.
Speaker 1: We were from like an bricking and beach table would
Speaker 1: be like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't be a hater, be a player, congratulator.
Speaker 3: Okay, I know, I know she studied it. What did
Speaker 3: I know about that?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: But you live in South Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I love.
Speaker 1: I love in SOUTHLK. I have. I've lived in South
Speaker 1: Okland for I think in total like ten years by
Speaker 1: I lived in glen I've lived all over Auckland. I'm
Speaker 1: very grateful for it. I've lived in the CBD, I've
Speaker 1: lived in Greenfield, i lived in glean Eating. But I'm
Speaker 1: very great because I love you.
Speaker 3: Don't want to go.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Wait, I've just realized we didn't congratulate you on
Speaker 2: your engagements.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, I was going to yeah,
Speaker 3: that's so exciting.
Speaker 1: We we were just talking about it. Last night. We
Speaker 1: were like sitting down and being like, so when are
Speaker 1: we going to do? But we're We're like, I'm very
Speaker 1: My fiance is very private, she likes her you know,
Speaker 1: she's very low key. And I've founders, I've gotten older,
Speaker 1: I'm very I like just not being in that I
Speaker 1: picked the worst career possible to want to keep me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's like one of those tough things, but I'm
Speaker 1: very grateful.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: We're thinking of doing like a just my parents who
Speaker 1: appearents waiting. We even considering just going courthouse and doing
Speaker 1: it there, like because like are expensive. I'd rather go holiday.
Speaker 1: I'd rather, you know, like buy a house. I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. We want to have children and stuff,
Speaker 1: and that stuff just seems like more of a priority
Speaker 1: than throwing a party for other people. Fair enough, So
Speaker 1: I'm excited. It's it's a yeah. I did it on
Speaker 1: I did it on Masiki and we were up. We
Speaker 1: went up the moment and I was up the top.
Speaker 1: There was like sixty seventy people trying to engage it
Speaker 1: and I was like this, and I think the first
Speaker 1: words that came out of her mouth she was like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck here, and I was like yes or no,
Speaker 1: it's like five degrees there, which said yes eventually, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's yeah.
Speaker 4: It's just like life changing, I guess, but for two
Speaker 4: private people.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. She was like, please don't like so many ways,
Speaker 1: like yeah, it's like it's a it was. It was strange,
Speaker 1: like I didn't even want to post it on social
Speaker 1: media because I just felt weird about like this thing
Speaker 1: that's very special to me personally and putting it out
Speaker 1: there into the world. And like it took a little while,
Speaker 1: but I was like, I'm very proud of this, like
Speaker 1: I'm very happy this is something that's special. You should
Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, but I was very anxious posting it.
Speaker 1: And then like just the and it like went on
Speaker 1: Instagram's explore page or something like that, and that only
Speaker 1: strange and I was just like, the worst one could happen.
Speaker 1: But I love so I'm very sorry about that. So
Speaker 1: thank you for you guys.
Speaker 3: We love around here. So my law, it's without saying
Speaker 3: that you are a broadcaster that we both look up to,
Speaker 3: and you just got the best questions in the game,
Speaker 3: there's no two ways about it. Tell us about your
Speaker 3: journey into broadcasting, did you always see this for yourself?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Nah, no, no, no, I dropped that. I dropped out
Speaker 1: school at like fourteen fifteen. Yeah, I had to take
Speaker 1: my dad with me to the school to sign out
Speaker 1: because I like, I was too young to drop out
Speaker 1: on my own. Yeah, I didn't think because my old
Speaker 1: man has been a panel beater for thirty forty years
Speaker 1: and he still works at the same place, and he
Speaker 1: eventually the owner soldier to my dad. And I was
Speaker 1: just like in my head in high school, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a panel beaterer. That's it. But my
Speaker 1: dad was like very much like I don't know. As
Speaker 1: I got older, I understood it, but at the time
Speaker 1: it was like Dad was like, I came here to
Speaker 1: this country in the eighties. I made sacrifices. I don't
Speaker 1: want you to do this. He's like, you could do this, yes,
Speaker 1: but he was like, I want you to do something
Speaker 1: else too. I got sent to some more I came home.
Speaker 1: I was like, education is really important. I don't I
Speaker 1: want a good job. And I when got like my
Speaker 1: certificate Tertiary Foundations.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess it was just a period where
Speaker 1: I was like I don't know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: I just need to make money. And I thought you
Speaker 1: get paid a lot of money in radio.
Speaker 4: You thought it was damn yeah, people think that, think.
Speaker 1: That all of our and then it's your working eighty
Speaker 1: hours a week other forty hours as about it. I
Speaker 1: hope I can pay my bills. Yeah, it was. I
Speaker 1: I mean I loved music. I love music, and I
Speaker 1: think that was like a pull to it, and like
Speaker 1: as kids, like radio was cool to us, Like I
Speaker 1: just remember, I have so many vivid memories of getting
Speaker 1: dropped off to school listening to the radio, when I
Speaker 1: was working at my dad's panel shop, listening to the
Speaker 1: radio man when the radio stations would come and like
Speaker 1: you know, they do those giveaways, they drop off lunches
Speaker 1: to workshops and things like that, and that was so cool,
Speaker 1: the relationship we with radio presenters. It was so meaningful
Speaker 1: to me, like having that friend you'd never met. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and at the time, like when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: like you'd never you didn't even know what they looked like.
Speaker 1: Like I remember getting shocks when you'd see billboards and
Speaker 1: we're like yeah, so like I had, I always loved
Speaker 1: the radio. I never genuinely thought I'd get a job
Speaker 1: in it, and then when I went to radio school,
Speaker 1: just the stars aligned. I was tour driving for Swiss
Speaker 1: Tree and Semi j Wowkland because my radio school is Downkland.
Speaker 3: Instagram Serenity.
Speaker 1: Were like, hey, we know this kild school. You should
Speaker 1: give him a shot, and he took a bit on
Speaker 1: me and it's just kind of been my life ever since. Really, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's so cool. You spent many years at you Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think just eight eight years shy of nine maybe
Speaker 1: something like that. That was I like was there from
Speaker 1: like eighteen through to twenty six.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a formative years. Yeah yeah, and like
Speaker 1: just having Yeah, that was the thing. Like I really
Speaker 1: grew up here and I was the youngest person at
Speaker 1: new EFIM for like five years or something like that,
Speaker 1: and then the Wister guy took that from me. Oh
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, And it was just it was a really
Speaker 1: special time to grow up there. I like, I think
Speaker 1: people know me now as being Simon, but when I
Speaker 1: first started there, I didn't. I was always proud to
Speaker 1: be someone, but I really didn't know anything. So being
Speaker 1: at new EFIM like really helped me get in touch
Speaker 1: with my culture. And my heritage and then something I'm
Speaker 1: like super grateful for. It was a yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a really special time to me and I
Speaker 1: always hold that place near in theater my heart because
Speaker 1: they really helped shape me to be who I am today,
Speaker 1: not just like on a professional level, but just on
Speaker 1: a personal level. It was a really special time for me.
Speaker 1: That's very cheesy. I'm very sorry.
Speaker 4: We love the cheese.
Speaker 2: That's so that's so epic, especially when we think about
Speaker 2: broadcasting and how it has necessarily been super kind to
Speaker 2: our communities. It's really really cool that you were able
Speaker 2: to enter a space where you felt like really like
Speaker 2: you were able to grow in that confidence and then
Speaker 2: also create representations for our people. So how do you
Speaker 2: feel to be part of that community of broadcasters who
Speaker 2: are really trying to accurately represent our communities?
Speaker 1: Now, I didn't think I was, like, you know, like
Speaker 1: I think, but it kind of just happens when you
Speaker 1: work in Pacific media. It's it's really special. It's a
Speaker 1: great honor. It's it's a lot of pressure, especially if
Speaker 1: you I think people, I think people get stuck in
Speaker 1: the trap of like Pacific culture is salmon culture. When
Speaker 1: you work working at PMN, you realize it's not just us,
Speaker 1: you know, like you, I mean song and you when
Speaker 1: Tuvalon Lao Fiji. There's so many Micronesian Melanesian Polynesian. It's
Speaker 1: not just and youve got to realize that representation goes
Speaker 1: beyond just you. I mean, I know someone's are overrepresented
Speaker 1: in media, but you know, I think it's about ensuring
Speaker 1: that we can bring through other communities and things like that.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I never thought i'd be that representation because
Speaker 1: look at me, but it just kind of happened, and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very grateful. I don't I don't want to
Speaker 1: be the representation as per se. I've sort of found
Speaker 1: myself in a position where I'm able to provide opportunity
Speaker 1: to other generations to be their representation through music. You know,
Speaker 1: sitting down and chatting with young people that are doing
Speaker 1: really cool stuff in the community, but like musicians that
Speaker 1: are just crushing it. I want them to be the stars.
Speaker 1: I don't really, as per se, want to be the star.
Speaker 1: But you know, ours privileged coming out of New EFMS,
Speaker 1: I have so many role models. I mean there was
Speaker 1: before I even started, there was Oscar Twelo, I think
Speaker 1: that that new e Fan Nixon, Nate sell Up or
Speaker 1: Jendles Nico and a Corbett, There's so many people to
Speaker 1: look up to coming out, and it was a yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't consider myself in the same realm as them.
Speaker 1: They've done some phenomenal things, but I think I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm grateful that I get to be in a position
Speaker 1: to be like, Hey, here's these really cool people doing
Speaker 1: really cool stuff in the community. Let's celebrate them and
Speaker 1: learn more about them. Yo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, because TAHI is not necessarily
Speaker 2: like a Pacific focused podcast. When you're like reaching out
Speaker 2: to people or when you're brainstorming people to bring onto
Speaker 2: the podcast, are you specifically being like, no, they need
Speaker 2: to be Maldir pasificer or is that kind of just
Speaker 2: something that happens like naturally.
Speaker 1: You know, It's been really interesting for me career wise
Speaker 1: because pim Ino was like, we're about our bussfeker and
Speaker 1: now it's about expanding that because we're trying to target
Speaker 1: not just bus speakers, We're talking mad youth, Southeast Asian youth,
Speaker 1: and things like that. We're trying to like really represent
Speaker 1: young people as a whole, which is very difficult. We're
Speaker 1: such a diverse city a diverse country that it's like
Speaker 1: we got to sit there and we gotta like consider
Speaker 1: that we're we're making sure everyone's voices are heard. It's
Speaker 1: really difficult, but it's a fun challenge and the people
Speaker 1: they would get through a phenomenal because, like, I've learned
Speaker 1: so much more. I've gotten a step outside of the
Speaker 1: BUSFEKA community and see what's that thing out there. I
Speaker 1: still think we're the best, but like I get to
Speaker 1: see all the other cool things that are going on,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, man, like young people are the
Speaker 1: circus generation. Like this young generation are doing I did
Speaker 1: not have my life together there doing all this really
Speaker 1: cool stuff and I'm like, man, you're a way ahead
Speaker 1: of me. It's yeah, it's a new challenge, but it's cool.
Speaker 1: I think the city and country is so diverse and
Speaker 1: getting to celebrate that's like, man, sick.
Speaker 3: How has that adjustment been moving into mainstream? Coming from
Speaker 3: p men and going to Radio New Zealand.
Speaker 1: It's when you leave a network that's all brown, you're
Speaker 1: always going to have a different experience. But that's not
Speaker 1: to say the experience is bad. I've been very fortunate
Speaker 1: and provide a lot of opportunities to really celebrate and
Speaker 1: champion young busspeaker people, which put a lot of trust
Speaker 1: and faith in me, and man has been scary, but
Speaker 1: like it's like, I'm very grateful for that, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean it's still public service media, you know, which
Speaker 1: I think is something I'm well adjusted to, is working
Speaker 1: in public service. And yeah, the hands to the question
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm grateful that I've been able to no
Speaker 1: matter where I go, people are like, you can celebrate
Speaker 1: bus speaker people. Nobody's ever stopped me, nobody's ever question that.
Speaker 1: They're just like that, you know, Sort mine probably knows
Speaker 1: what he's talking about, Yeah, which is going to trust them.
Speaker 1: And I've been so grateful that that people feel that
Speaker 1: way about me, that I have a reputation to be
Speaker 1: like a trusted person like that.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of that trust comes from your
Speaker 3: previous experience and the name that you've built for yourself,
Speaker 3: especially when it comes to interviewing. Honestly, I tell you
Speaker 3: every one that Sort my Law was probably the best interviewer.
Speaker 1: No, I can't.
Speaker 3: I'm bad with compliments, That's true. I remember back to
Speaker 3: your New FM dates. The questions were just questioning. You
Speaker 3: have a way of speaking to your guests in such
Speaker 3: an intimate way, like crazy, you.
Speaker 4: Really get the best out of your guests.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 3: How do you go about preparing for an interview?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't prep don't well, I I research.
Speaker 1: I don't prep questions. Okay. That's the key thing to
Speaker 1: me is because I think, you know, like in a
Speaker 1: radio in particular, we talk about you being a friend,
Speaker 1: like talking to each other like very casually, whereas the
Speaker 1: American presenters like you performative. And that's how I like
Speaker 1: to go into the interviews, is like I think, especially
Speaker 1: if you can get a talent to let a guard
Speaker 1: down and just speak to you as a person, that's like,
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of it to me, the passion that
Speaker 1: all these people have because you can prepare your questions
Speaker 1: as much as you like, and that's great. I know
Speaker 1: that there's people out there who are like really well
Speaker 1: media trained, but I'm not looking for that. I want
Speaker 1: to know. It's not like I'm looking for the exclusive.
Speaker 1: I just want to hear you speak like a human
Speaker 1: about something, especially because artists love the art. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: let me hear you get passionate, like let me hear
Speaker 1: your love for this thing that you love, and like
Speaker 1: we love it too. Like I always do the research
Speaker 1: on my guest. I always want to know as much
Speaker 1: as I can about them, but there's certain things that
Speaker 1: I don't want to know about them because there's just
Speaker 1: like so much stuff that comes naturally in conversation. I
Speaker 1: was really inspired by a zay Low, Yeah New Zealander.
Speaker 1: His interview style is very it's very personabal, it's very casual,
Speaker 1: it's very conversation, very.
Speaker 3: Very cute, and.
Speaker 4: So by the time this episode comes out.
Speaker 1: There, I just like that idea of just like getting
Speaker 1: somebody to let their guard down and just speak to
Speaker 1: you and get comfortable with you. And like I'm I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't. I have been told that I have a
Speaker 1: very wristing goon face. I can look very grumpy quite often,
Speaker 1: and some people think of me that way. So I
Speaker 1: really work hard to make my guests just feel comfortable
Speaker 1: and know that this is a safe space. Know that
Speaker 1: you know, if they say things that they don't really
Speaker 1: want in the interview, like afterwards, because sometimes you get
Speaker 1: people too comfortable, yeah, and they just open up a
Speaker 1: little too much, and then afterwards you have to go
Speaker 1: back and be like, oh, they're like I don't actually
Speaker 1: feel comfortable sharing that. I'm like, that's fine. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: so fine.
Speaker 2: We've recorded a few solo episodes and because like Marinon
Speaker 2: and I are beasties, I'm like I did this, and
Speaker 2: then I'm like, oh, hey, so I actually don't want
Speaker 2: to release that episode at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the two of you having a real conversation, and
Speaker 1: then he realized this has to go to the war.
Speaker 4: People will listen to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and man, have you ever read a TikTok commentiction?
Speaker 3: Don't even start with TikTok, It's a waste.
Speaker 1: There are some critins on that. Satan himself honestly mix
Speaker 1: like that's weird, that's the comments. So like you ever
Speaker 1: put like I've said something really personal and meaningful to
Speaker 1: the conversation has just been like and it will crush?
Speaker 3: What do you want?
Speaker 1: Like, I don't care what people have to say. What
Speaker 1: it's like, man, like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: We did like a silly comedy video and someone wrote
Speaker 2: dry in the comments and I was like, I'm not dry,
Speaker 2: I'm hilarious.
Speaker 1: Where it's just like dumb no, it's not.
Speaker 3: But what did you find dumb? Tell me more?
Speaker 1: Someone someone keeps calling me by my English name, and
Speaker 1: the time he comments, they're just like, man, there's Ethan.
Speaker 3: I sucks.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who told you?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: I know somebody from like high school or something like that.
Speaker 1: You want to find them one day. So like, when
Speaker 1: it comes to getting a gift, to get comfortable, like
Speaker 1: you have to put measures in place to let them
Speaker 1: know that it's safe to be open and will make
Speaker 1: amendments if they don't feel comfortable with stuff. Yeah. Like
Speaker 1: when it comes to the process, I like, I just
Speaker 1: know what I want to get out of it when
Speaker 1: I go into prepping the interview on just like, these
Speaker 1: are the things that I want to learn. How we
Speaker 1: get there is irrelevant because I I did an interview
Speaker 1: produced an interview for me years ago, and she was
Speaker 1: in my ear telling me off because I wasn't actually
Speaker 1: listening to the guest I had. I was just listening
Speaker 1: for my turn. Yeah, you know, like you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're finished talking, here's my next question. Yeah, And that
Speaker 1: stuck with me because she was all right, I wasn't
Speaker 1: listening to anything they had to say. I was just
Speaker 1: listening for the breath me to be like, okay, now
Speaker 1: tell me about this. And I know that in in
Speaker 1: radio you get like three to five minutes for a
Speaker 1: break to ask these questions. Very difficult, but that's sort
Speaker 1: of the beauty of being able to do a podcast.
Speaker 1: I can I commit those answers, breathe, yeah, break them down,
Speaker 1: ask more questions and things like that, which is yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we're like my strength lives isn't just talking
Speaker 1: to people. That's what I enjoy the most. And honestly
Speaker 1: talking about myself today has been very difficult. I hope
Speaker 1: I've answered questions absolutely.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, listen, who's one of those gifts that
Speaker 2: you've walked away from being?
Speaker 4: Like I killed that?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: Like that was a great chat.
Speaker 1: I the movement, Oh, I love that. The movement is
Speaker 1: a I mean movers not only just incredible community leader,
Speaker 1: but being able to pick his brain. He's so smart.
Speaker 1: I call him sometimes and just ask for advice on things,
Speaker 1: and he gives me that time even though he's a
Speaker 1: has been right. Yeah yeah, so he'll like he'll call back,
Speaker 1: and he's calling he's not even calling me on FaceTime.
Speaker 1: Like that was a great interview. I felt very proud
Speaker 1: about that A Radna. Yeah, I got the interview a
Speaker 1: Radna and it was so special to me because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I like knew her for like eight years working at
Speaker 1: New ethan like I'd just feature from reception and take
Speaker 1: her to the other shows. And that was the first
Speaker 1: time I actually got to sit down interview with myself.
Speaker 1: And he's very grateful for that, Yeah, and hearing her
Speaker 1: journey and things like that. Yeah, there's been some man, honestly,
Speaker 1: they have done so many interviews, like it's hard, but
Speaker 1: those were two standouts, especially from last year that really
Speaker 1: stuck with me that like I walked away from and
Speaker 1: I think I was like, I did good service to
Speaker 1: those musicians, the talent, and I think I serviced my
Speaker 1: listenership by giving them a valuable product. Here's a good
Speaker 1: interview for you, yeah, to enjoy.
Speaker 3: We have got our rapid fire Kim this week, which
Speaker 3: is guy I swear eight with this game. So this
Speaker 3: is what we're going to do. We are going to
Speaker 3: ask my law question and he has the option to
Speaker 3: either answer or should he wished to plead the fifth,
Speaker 3: he can take the shot of cover my law to
Speaker 3: four shells cover from VTS, not from the theory. All right,
Speaker 3: I've got some Christians here. Did you want to read
Speaker 3: the Yeah?
Speaker 4: Sure, okay, your first Christian sort.
Speaker 2: I feel like there should be some dramatic music keptening
Speaker 2: right now. I'm just mentioning your mind. Who's the rudest
Speaker 2: person you've even interviewed.
Speaker 1: That we've got? Sorry, answer question, Okay, I'll put it
Speaker 1: out there. I haven't had a really bad interview. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I've had some Yeah, yeah, I haven't had any
Speaker 1: like like what a diva. They haven't walked down Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I've had someones where I was just like, hmmm,
Speaker 1: that happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, be like that. Okay, question number so, how do
Speaker 3: you feel about I Love I love it?
Speaker 1: Now? I want to answer that I have to. I
Speaker 1: think that it can put unnecessary strain on people trying
Speaker 1: to survive in a world that is not particularly kind.
Speaker 1: Times are tough. My groceries are up two hundred bucks,
Speaker 1: you know, like petrols up, and like some people just
Speaker 1: can't afford it. Like, I mean, I get I see,
Speaker 1: I see the impact that I Love Love is have
Speaker 1: when they go back home. They can do amazing things.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's not all fairy tales and
Speaker 1: rainbows and like that here, like times are really tough.
Speaker 1: I think that I understand and respect the cultural importance
Speaker 1: and value of them, but I think we need to
Speaker 1: look at them differently because when they were invented, we
Speaker 1: weren't under capitalism, so we need to review how that
Speaker 1: works and our families can still contribute, but without like
Speaker 1: my like strained. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love that we're taking a title.
Speaker 4: Like a last question, should girls be able to show
Speaker 4: their mud?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like yes, like you guys already know
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, because yes, Like I think that's
Speaker 1: like you know, like I don't know people think that
Speaker 1: my ancestors will pants or something, you know, like put
Speaker 1: like women wear them. They have significance in that's all
Speaker 1: The significance is to be shown, yeah, to show them off.
Speaker 1: Like why can I wear short shorts and show them
Speaker 1: off and woman can't.
Speaker 2: This is something that I have come across. When my
Speaker 2: guy friend show their pit, it's there's like a like
Speaker 2: a oh my gosh, you got your like it's like
Speaker 2: a really cool thing like me, and there's like a
Speaker 2: camaraderie almost.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I wore pants for two years
Speaker 1: after it just.
Speaker 4: Like the level of cell covers through the rum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then yeah, I'll go running in my little
Speaker 2: running shorts and I just see people driving past, Like
Speaker 2: but you.
Speaker 1: Know what when you get back to someone, like they're
Speaker 1: shown Like I didn't see that conservatives as much in
Speaker 1: the Islands. Like when I got back, I see girls
Speaker 1: wearing their shorts and things like that, chewing it off,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, shot it off, Like you went
Speaker 1: through this thing, you contributed to our society, our culture. Man,
Speaker 1: show it off like you Like, do you know who's
Speaker 1: always allowed us about this stuff? People that don't have them, Like,
Speaker 1: oh my what the yearly Twitter debate comes up and
Speaker 1: people are like, oh yeah, you know, if you don't speak,
Speaker 1: it's shut up. Yeah, And it's all people that don't
Speaker 1: have just like shut up you. The thing is, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we nearly lost this really
Speaker 1: beautiful things colonization. We should not lose it because of
Speaker 1: what gatekeeping. Yeah, it's yeah, like I think everyone should
Speaker 1: show them. I don't know, I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's weirdo behavior to police all body about something that's
Speaker 1: so special, like or just in general, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you period.
Speaker 2: Okay, my top three quotes from this episode just try
Speaker 2: shut up weirdo behavior.
Speaker 1: Editorials.
Speaker 4: My boss is gonna be like, we're gonna hold that episode.
Speaker 3: I hope this was okay.
Speaker 1: I very really sit down and talk about myself. And
Speaker 1: it's so strange to be only but I really appreciate
Speaker 1: what you both do. I think that this is a
Speaker 1: really special show because it doesn't just I think like
Speaker 1: you don't just celebrate musicians, you celebrate everyone from every
Speaker 1: background and all these different cultures. I think you have
Speaker 1: something really important here, like don't give just keep going,
Speaker 1: Like you guys have developed something really special. And I
Speaker 1: think the stories that you hear two are really important
Speaker 1: because they're not just the usual stories. There's stories from
Speaker 1: so many different facets of society. This is this is
Speaker 1: really unique. This is really special, and I mean, you've
Speaker 1: both been young people. It's incredible voices to have, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm very honored to be here.
Speaker 4: We're so thanks so much for saying that.
Speaker 1: I think you guys have done something really cool and
Speaker 1: it's really cool to see it thrive, like and that's
Speaker 1: why you guys got the award. Many well deserving all this.
Speaker 3: I also am very bad at taking Yeah, very quiet,
Speaker 3: it's just.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: Call me here.
Speaker 2: You can listen to on all the podcast platforms releases
Speaker 2: Tuesday and Thursday, and you can find all medal on Instagram.
Speaker 1: It's don't find me, h, I don't want. I think
Speaker 1: it's my.
Speaker 3: But we'll catch you on the every Tuesday and Thursday.
Speaker 1: Yes you will hopefully.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, sort of thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah so my low icon' legion moment host of the
Speaker 4: Tay podcast, which you can find on I think pretty
Speaker 4: much all streaming platforms just like us, just like first
Speaker 4: us first please then.
Speaker 3: We love them. We do, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 2: You can listen to mo iral every Thursday for episodes
Speaker 2: coming out. I've also got clips out on the socials
Speaker 2: literally trying. Please please like and comment and I'll reply
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 4: If that's what she wants, she.
Speaker 3: Will Alsa's comments background.
Speaker 4: I'm trying.
Speaker 3: I'm really trying. You're about hiding us, hiding up.
Speaker 4: On the ma langa.
Speaker 3: Make you very much, please pay her bill. She's trying
Speaker 3: to get into influence.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Anyone out there specifically looking for like an uber sponsorship
Speaker 2: or an awkward transport sponsorship. Just so I can get
Speaker 2: around the town.
Speaker 3: They should put a so for the next run, and
Speaker 3: let's form outself. Let's teach them how to catch the bus. Oh.
Speaker 4: I can definitely do that.
Speaker 3: She can, She's got that under her belt.
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you guys, see you on the socials at
Speaker 4: I Heart Radio.
Speaker 3: Yes, she got it right this time. Bye.