1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: The price of oil hasn't gone through the roof, despite 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: what's happening in the Middle East. Brent crude oil is 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: actually down four percent of the day to seventy dollars 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: seventy cents a barrel. This is US and there are 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons for this. We'll get to those 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: in a second. Terry Collins, the principal AA advisor with 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: US Petrol Expert oil expert on the program, Terry, good morning, 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Good morning on Yeah, were you surprised to see or 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: did the markets just price in trouble in the Middle East? 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: You're right initially what they did when their text were launched, 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: as they just twicted the risk. Everybody now was just 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: sitting back and seeing how the Uranians retaliate to the 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: US strikes. They've talked, well threatened to shut straight up 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: themors and that could take a variety of forms, everything 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: from just stopping some targeted ships of certain nationalities, putting 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: minds down, to directly attacking shipping, and each of those 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: would have an impact on the price of oil. 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: Interesting that the markets are only bedding on a twenty 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: five to thirty percent chance of that actually happening because 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: they've threatened to do this before and nothing came of it. Right. 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what everybody's sitting back and looking is 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: the Uranians know that they came to go full on 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: with the US and its neighbors, so they've got to 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,919 Speaker 2: save face. They've got to be some form of recaliation. 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: Let's say to the world that we will defend ourselves 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: and if you strike us, we will strike back. But 27 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: I think they're scared about going too far because of 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: the consequences of that. 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: Also, the other thing about the Strait that I was 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: reading about yesterday, part of it is actually in Oman's waters, 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: with vessels actually able to go in their waters to 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: get through. So can they actually completely block it off? 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: Well, the straight that its scenarios is about thirty three 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: kilometers wide and for the cook straight of that scenarios 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: is about twenty two. But they've got these shipping rains 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: about three kilometers wide in both directions. One of them 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: will be in the Omar side, so that's in one direction. 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: Practicalities of it, if they're going to start shooting each other, 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: will laying mines, They'll just do it discuruent where they 40 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: has drop them. So what that happens is the shipping 41 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: companies because of the insurance issues, won't want to take 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: the ships in there. They'll do that voluntary. I'll think 43 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: the risk of being struck by a mine the environment 44 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: will clean up is too significant, and that's how they're 45 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: will slow down the supply of will all right. 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: And the talk of potentially doubling the price of oil 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: per barrel overblown. 48 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: Overblown, and probably if it did happen, it would be 49 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: a short term spike. What we saw after the Russian 50 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: invasion of Ukraine is the world did spike around the 51 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: one twenty one to thirty, but then as alternative roots 52 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: of will going back onto the market were established, those 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: prices drop down. We've seen from a number of these 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: geopolitical events that there's an immediate short term spike and 55 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: then the court of markets settled down as alternative arrangements 56 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: are made for delivering oil to the market. 57 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: Terry, appreciate you time this morning, Terry Collins from AA. 58 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: For more from earlier edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 59 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: to Newstalk Set B from five am weekdays, or follow 60 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.