1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Sports with generates putting performance first generate, Keewisave dot Co 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: dot Nz. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Darcy Watergrave, Sports Talk, Hoosters of Me. 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Hello, does share the deplace? Allen? 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 2: Okay, do you have an idea as to why they 6 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: chose Dave over Jamie. 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: I'd suggest there's a couple of reasons that maybe pushed 8 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: them over the line. One of them is distance, distance 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: from enz Are, distance from Super Rugby. He's been coaching 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: away overseas. He got let go by the Chiefs or walked. 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: That was ten years ago now, so he's gone over. 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: He's been in Glasgow, he's been over in Kobe where 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: he is now. He's coached in Australia for the Wallabies, 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: and he hasn't really been in the weeds of New 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: Zealand rugby. He's keeping a keen eye on it, but 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: there'll be no favorite playing. He comes in fresh with 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: a clean slate, and I think that's a very important 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: part of why he got the role. Plainly, he had 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: all the other marks as well, so they rolled him 20 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: inber that on. But I think that that it says 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: a lot. Plus, he's a terrific bloke. He's old school, 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: maybe not as old school as Jamie Joseph, and apparently 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Jamie took it pretty well at the press conference today, 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, he mentioned and said, look, thanks very much. 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: Taking this one must be hard because everyone thought I 26 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: thought that he was. 27 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: I thought Jamie Joseph, he said, But maybe. 28 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: It's because Jamie Joseph couldn't bring Tony Brown, and that 29 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: might have been the kicker there. Also with Tave really 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: made an interesting comment talking about Brodie Retallick and what 31 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: great form is in because he plays for it. 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: But it was in answer to a question about overseas players. 33 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: Mentioned before that as well, and then he. 34 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: Clearly wants to do the same thing Razor wanted to do, 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: which was to pick the overseas players. 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: He didn't say that, but he inferred it. Yes, So 37 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: there was a lot to build out of that. And 38 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: he said, look, he's in the best form we've ever seen, 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: and he's had at rest, he's still an astonishing player. 40 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: I just think of him and Josh Lord running up 41 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: the midfield lobbing the ball to each other. Just because 42 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: this is one of. 43 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: The arguments against picking players who were based overseas, and 44 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: in fact against sabbaticals altogether, as they go over and 45 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: they're playing in a place like Japan, and then they 46 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: just get fat and slow and don't play the But 47 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: what he's saying is it's a complete opposite. Brody Ruttelic 48 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: is playing better than ever. 49 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: I think you underest the mate. But who's he playing against. 50 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: That's the thing. You can look really good for Kobe, 51 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: and you can look really good in Japan top rugby. 52 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: That's fantastic, But they're own playing against each other. Yeah, 53 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: and I'm not casting any shadow across the quality point 54 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: of rugby, but it's all very well. To play at 55 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: that level, you're playing at super Levil, you've got to 56 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: be a notch up. You play it all black, but 57 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: you've got to be a further notch up. But by 58 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: all accounts, he's on fire. 59 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, got the T twenty tonight and we're playing 60 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: South Africa. 61 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: It's two thirty in the morning. We especially because yeah, 62 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm a bit of a space geeks. Of course, what 63 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: did I do last night at Saturdays? I go deep 64 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: for an hour and watch the blood Moon. It was 65 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: kind of different shades, very Mars like. It was fascinating, Like, 66 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: my eyes are a bit shot and I haven't got 67 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: a taliscope or anything flash like that. But even to 68 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: the naked eye, it was quite. 69 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: You know that. You know, the moon is making people 70 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: sleep really weird at the moment, like it's affecting people sleep. 71 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: I slept terribly last night. 72 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: I slept so well. I didn't even get it because 73 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: you were up till two thirty about one, that's when 74 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: it all finished. I didn't even get up for a Wii, 75 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: which you know us people. Mate, it was good. I 76 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: slept right the way through, so I'm not paying it 77 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: attention to that. Fascinated. It's such a cool thing to do, 78 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: the simple joys in life, and you wonder about the 79 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: prehistoric folk and what they thought about stuff like that, 80 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: and no one of the things been all pear shape 81 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: with we will right, okay, right, did it explain my yeah? 82 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, but that was interesting. Thank you Darcy for 83 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: coming in and talking about the moon. 84 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: That's and all things going well and good Brady, it's 85 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: going to join us on the show to stop it, 86 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: really well, we believe. 87 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: So ask him, are you looking like you're playing good 88 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: because everybody else around your sucks? Ask him that question. 89 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: Okay, we're just waiting for the return call Come on 90 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: Mate Sports For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen 91 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: live to News Talk SETB from four pm weekdays, or 92 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio