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Speaker 2: Morning to you, Welcome to the show coming up today.

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Speaker 2: It is d day for the fairies decision. We've been

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Speaker 2: waiting a while for. Are we going to get two

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Speaker 2: smaller fairies that cost us more? Sounds like it. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to Transport in New Zealand on that. We apparently

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Speaker 2: need thousands of doctors and thousands of nurses. The vacancies

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Speaker 2: are enough to make you weep. So we'll find out

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Speaker 2: from House New Zealand what are their plans so you

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Speaker 2: get these jobs filled. The Greyhound guys on the Surprise

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Speaker 2: shut Down, Mark and Jenny talk politics and we'll get

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Speaker 2: you around the world with Richard Arnold and Steve Price.

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Speaker 3: Ever duplicy Ellen, I've gotta.

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Speaker 2: Be honest, I do not feel sorry for the supermarkets

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Speaker 2: getting pinged by the Commerce Commission laying those criminal charges.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know that there are some who are

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Speaker 2: going to criticize the ComCom for this being small beer

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Speaker 2: and it is and there they'll say there are bigger

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Speaker 2: structural issues in the grocery sector to actually be dealing with.

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Speaker 2: And that's true as well. There are, but this is

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Speaker 2: still important because the supermarkets have low known for long

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Speaker 2: enough now that they have, if not misleading pricing and

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Speaker 2: misleading specials, that they have inaccurate pricing on their shelves. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to prejudge the outcome of this court case,

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Speaker 2: but you know, we can talk about the circumstances that

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Speaker 2: supermarket owners that are on the Rich List. So absolutely

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Speaker 2: got the means, absolutely had the time to put in

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Speaker 2: the electronic shelf tag systems that would have got around

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Speaker 2: at the very least most of the inaccurate pricing problems. Right,

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Speaker 2: instead of using the paper you use the electronic stuff.

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Speaker 2: And yet despite the money and the time, we still

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Speaker 2: to say, oh, the customers could just go up to

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Speaker 2: in order to get a refund, you have to know

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Speaker 2: that you have been charged incorrectly. And how many of

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Speaker 2: us actually know that? How many of us actually have

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Speaker 2: the time or the inclination to check our supermarket receipts.

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Speaker 2: And this stuff is not actually all that inconsequential, because

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Speaker 2: groceries are one of the expenses that families cannot avoid,

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Speaker 2: much like putting a roof over your head, and the

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Speaker 2: stuff adds up over time. Look the fines that are

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Speaker 2: available to the Commerce Commission here, Yes, they are relatively

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Speaker 2: But I suspect that the charges themselves will give other

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Speaker 2: they're doing on their shelves as well. And that's a

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Speaker 2: good thing. They have absolutely had long enough to sort

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Speaker 2: this out. What news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: So the UN Special Envoy to Syria is giving Israel

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Speaker 4: They are continuing to see Israeli movements and bombardments into

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Speaker 2: This needs to stop Israel's is the definitely not me.

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Speaker 5: The Israelis flat out tony that they've described it multiple

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Speaker 6: Say, there's nothing to substantiate that, and that's not what

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Speaker 6: they're doing.

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Speaker 5: anti tank mines, we of course saw all of them exploding.

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Speaker 5: Now on the floor all around us is the unexploded

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Speaker 2: Now, as we told you yesterday, they've arrested the alleged

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Speaker 2: New York shooter, Luigi Mangioni. He was arrested in a

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania McDonald's and this staff as sort all go down.

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Speaker 7: Police man, we're here, and there were the guy in

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Speaker 8: He asked the suspect if he had been in New

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Speaker 2: Over in the UK, the Chancellor Rachel Reeves is doing

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Speaker 2: a bit of a Nicola Willis warning ministers, they will

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Speaker 2: need to cut back on spending. I have no doubt

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Speaker 9: and I'm determined to do so because it's through finding

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: One example was a government department spending two and a

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Speaker 2: half thousand New Zealand dollars on two leather bound folders

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Speaker 2: from a luxury company. And finally, if you're fit and

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Speaker 2: you enjoy social engagements in China has got just the

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Speaker 2: the job, an increasing trend with students and ex military

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Speaker 2: is to sing, to make you love, to tell stories,

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Speaker 2: off the fact that you're exhausted while climbing a giant mountain.

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Speaker 2: I'm a very specific set of skills there. I'll even

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Speaker 2: carry your bag for you. On average, the climbers may

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Speaker 2: There's a job be if you're looking for something. Now,

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Speaker 2: absolutely on the arrest of the guy that they recon

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Speaker 2: shot the healthcare ceo. This is the one who's been

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Speaker 2: you sick and your insurance isn't going to cover it. Now,

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Speaker 2: I mean, do I need to explain this to you?

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Speaker 2: Rats in the kitchen as in nax Nark's in the

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Speaker 2: This is called review bombing. This is the thing that happens,

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Speaker 2: and review bombing is basically where our business gets targeted

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Speaker 2: Google is taking them down. But yeah, weird twist in

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Speaker 10: Yeah, morning, Heather.

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Speaker 2: All right, So the RBA. No surprise there at all.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no surprise delivered as expected.

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Speaker 11: No change to the policy rate, which is the equivalent

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Speaker 10: Economic present for us. For wants.

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Speaker 11: We would just love to see any number above zero,

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Speaker 10: But they're all sort of head up about the fact

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Speaker 11: Anyway, they've had a stock phrase in their recent announcements.

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Speaker 11: They need to remain vigilant to the upside risks of inflation. Well,

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Speaker 11: they've changed the tune that sen that's gone. Some of

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Speaker 11: very much like the market has decided as a dubvish

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Speaker 11: They've scrapped the wording that they weren't ruled anything in

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Speaker 10: Now, why we care about that? Heather's dragged the New

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Speaker 11: We very rarely see the Kiwi dollar below fifty eight cents,

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Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of cash and your holidays and just generally

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Speaker 2: spending stuff, do we actually want digital cashwere do you.

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Speaker 3: Sit on this?

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Speaker 10: Well? You answered me this question. Have you got any

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Speaker 10: cash any well? Have you got a couple of fiddies

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember when when we had that weird little

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Speaker 10: Any cash?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I went and I drew out I think

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Speaker 2: three hundred and stuck it somewhere in the house. Not

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Speaker 2: going to tell you there, but I'm still Yeah.

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Speaker 11: It's a bit of context, bit of background here digital cash.

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Speaker 11: The arbyan Z is working on a digital cash proposal

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Speaker 11: that means those little fiddies you've got burning a hole

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Speaker 11: in your wallet won't be needed. But turns out there's

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Speaker 11: a few things that light our fires on this, and

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Speaker 11: these are One, we love cash, but two we don't

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Speaker 11: trust the government and we don't trust the arbyan Z now,

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Speaker 11: shall we be surprised, like, should I be surprised that

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Speaker 11: I wasn't sure how to feel about this? On this

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Speaker 10: I reckon, we can blow up your text machine on this.

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Speaker 10: Who loves cash out there?

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Speaker 13: Who loves it?

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Speaker 10: Anyway, let's get onto the serious.

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Speaker 11: If the arbian Z called for public consultation on this,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to see how that plays out.

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Speaker 2: All right, give us the numbers.

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Speaker 11: Dow Jones are down two points, so no move there.

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Speaker 2: Andrew, good to talk to you, mate. Enjoy the rest

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Speaker 2: of you days, Andrew callihev joy my wealth. Listen. You

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Speaker 2: already know exercise is good for you, right, you don't

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Speaker 2: I can't remember where my wallet is too. I know

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Speaker 14: Anyway, resomably off the back of yesterday's study.

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Speaker 4: You then follow that up with a few sweet treats

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. You live long, plus you remember your

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Speaker 2: It be Heather, how do you do a cashi with

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Speaker 2: Obviously good news story that he's recovered, but the review's

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Speaker 3: Should be happening to you.

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Speaker 14: Sounds like a laugh a minute.

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Speaker 2: As we discussed on the show yesterday, banks have been

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Speaker 2: So what's actually going on here? Have these guys who've

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Speaker 13: We've had quite a few petrol station owners actually reach

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Speaker 13: And we're getting anecdotal evidence that other banks are doing

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Speaker 2: Right, And how many gas stations are we talking about

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Speaker 2: So this net zero Banking Alliance suggests that the banks

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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's correct.

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Speaker 2: Now, how much is this guy going to have to

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Speaker 18: Them to retire.

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Speaker 2: They're over a barrel, won't they They're over a barrel

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Speaker 13: Correct and you know, you know, well, I don't like

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Speaker 13: obviously there's there's a bigger context here for farmers as well.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Richard, thanks very much, really appreciate it. That's Richard McIntire,

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Speaker 2: Federated Farmer's National board member. Here's a text hither. I'm

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Speaker 2: the chair of White Tall More. The banks are absolutely

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Speaker 2: reducing or refusing to fund fuel companies, even though we've

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Speaker 2: got a hydrogen network, even though we've got electric charges,

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Speaker 2: even though we won their White Cuttle Sustainable Company Award

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Speaker 2: last week. Happy to chat. How crazy is that? It's

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Speaker 2: a crazy situation, But the world has gone crazy, hasn't it? Over?

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Speaker 2: In the US? Listen, if you've been following this Murdoch

452
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Speaker 2: court case where the family are fighting each other for

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Speaker 2: control of Rupert Murdoch's empire when he finally pops his clogs,

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Speaker 2: This thing came to a yesterday in the courts. If

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Speaker 2: you've been following this, and you'll be thinking, Jesus, feels

456
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Speaker 2: like an episode out of succession? What about this? For

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Speaker 2: a twist, The whole thing kicked off because of an

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Speaker 2: episode of succession, So weirdly they were and I don't

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Speaker 2: think all together, Like, I don't think all the adult

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Speaker 2: kids were sitting in one living room together, but they

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Speaker 2: were all, like the rest of us, watching Succession where

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Speaker 2: everything goes into chaos because old mate dies or is

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Speaker 2: going to die. The whole thing is just chaos the

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Speaker 2: whole way through. But anyway, when they were watching it,

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Speaker 2: they started thinking, oh, what about us, weird life mirroring everything.

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Speaker 2: Everything is weird about this. The show is based on them,

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Speaker 2: and then they're basing their lives on the show. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: So then Lachlan, James, Elizabeth, and Prudence, the four eldest kids,

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Speaker 2: start getting together and having little chats about it, start

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Speaker 2: devising a public relations strategy for the father for Rupert's

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Speaker 2: eventual death. Elizabeth Staffer writes a succession memo for the

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Speaker 2: trust which basically is as how they're going to avoid

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Speaker 2: having a real life example of succession play out, which

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Speaker 2: takes them to court, and they have a real life

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Speaker 2: example of succession playing out. That is the definition of meta,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? Seventeen Away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks a B Hither.

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Speaker 2: All the gas stations now need to refuse service to

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Speaker 2: the bank employees and executives. I mean, that's one way

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Speaker 2: of getting them back, isn't A B and Z carpools

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Speaker 2: into the local white toll mor and White onm was like, Nah,

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Speaker 2: not filling you up, mate, They'll have to go electric

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Speaker 2: quick smart, weren't they caught it?

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Speaker 1: To seven International correspondence with ENZ and Eye Insurance Peace

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Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Stateside, we've got Richard Arnold. Hey, Richard, So does it

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Speaker 2: sound to you like this chap who's responsible allegedly for

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Speaker 2: the shooting is basically being prompted by his own pain?

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Speaker 14: Well, that may be part of it.

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Speaker 19: We still don't know the full details, but certainly he

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Speaker 19: had some health issues that he was dealing with. But

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Speaker 19: I mean, there are so many bizarre elements to this.

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Speaker 19: He's going to face an extradition hearing shortly this fellow,

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Speaker 19: and many still are just amazed.

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Speaker 10: At how it all unfolded.

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Speaker 19: This suspect, Luigi Manngione, had all kinds of incriminating evidence

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Speaker 19: with him when he was spotted in a McDonald's fast

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Speaker 19: food place in Pennsylvania, a few hours is away only

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Speaker 19: from the site of the murder in New York. He

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Speaker 19: hit with him the so called ghost gun, the unidentified

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Speaker 19: weapon possibly made with a three D printer, and it

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Speaker 19: was loaded, so was he planning something. Additionally, he was

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Speaker 19: also carrying a fake ID in the name of Mark Rozario,

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Speaker 19: a fake name that was used in New York. Also,

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Speaker 19: he had with him as well as a three paid

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Speaker 19: manifesto critical of the healthcare industry. So in it he wrote, quote,

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Speaker 19: these parasites had it coming. End quote he added, I

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Speaker 19: do apologize for any strife and trauma, but it had

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Speaker 19: to be done. He also writes a virtual confession, suggesting

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Speaker 19: his note would only be read if he was killed

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Speaker 19: or captured. It says, in part, quote to save you

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Speaker 19: were lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working

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Speaker 19: with anyone. So all this is in sharp contrast to

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Speaker 19: the shooter's initial actions that we'd been hearing about where

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Speaker 19: he was so care care for wearing a mask in

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Speaker 19: New York except for that brief or infamous moment where

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Speaker 19: he was seen flirting with the girl at the desk

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Speaker 19: of the hostel where he was staying. Then there was

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Speaker 19: the monopoly money that he left in the backpack, The

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Speaker 19: police found in Central Park, but then these lapses at

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Speaker 19: the Altia McDonald's in Pennsylvania, he still had a mask

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Speaker 19: and another pack, and a customer named Larry says he

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Speaker 19: and his mate's joke that he looked like the New

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Speaker 19: York assassin. He says, one of his groups spoke up

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Speaker 19: about it.

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Speaker 17: He made a calm man, but that looks like the

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Speaker 17: shooter from New York. But I thought he was the

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Speaker 17: group of us. I thought it was more of a

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Speaker 17: joke and we were kidding about it. But then as

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Speaker 17: it turned out, it was him.

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Speaker 19: No joke, Yeah, they suspected shooter. Then ordered some hash

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Speaker 19: brown potatoes and sat at the back of the place.

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Speaker 19: Then one of the staffers put in that call to

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Speaker 19: police emergency. That staff and one of Larry's mates were

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Speaker 19: expected to share the tip off reward money, talking about

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Speaker 19: sixty thousand dollars US in all. So that's one hundred

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Speaker 19: thousand plus New Zealand. So we'll see how that works out. Meantime,

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Speaker 19: we're hearing more and more about this man who was

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Speaker 19: facing the murder charge after being initially being charged with

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Speaker 19: unlicensed fire, umpossession, forgery and so on. Police ran his id,

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Speaker 19: found it to be fake. Mangioni said little to police

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Speaker 19: when he was arrested, but in court for the initial arrangement,

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Speaker 19: he quiverled with the police account that his backpack was

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Speaker 19: designed to prevent mobile phone signals being traced. So police

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Speaker 19: were arguing that this was a sophisticated criminal effort. At

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Speaker 19: Mangioni piped up and said, hey, it was just a backpack.

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Speaker 19: As what else we know. He had a shoulder problem,

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Speaker 19: had undergone a surgery, so that house back to your

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Speaker 19: initial thought there. He also had moved to Hawaii for

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Speaker 19: about eighteen months, where his family, a wealthy family, was

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Speaker 19: unable to trace him for a time, and where one

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Speaker 19: of his roommates in what was built as the first

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Speaker 19: coworking penthouse for remote workers. This is a place on

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Speaker 19: the fortieth story of a high rise in Hawaii, says

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Speaker 19: he is stunned by what has happened beyondsot.

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Speaker 8: It's unimaginable. You know, I was roommates with him, friends

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Speaker 8: height Montio, the he's you know, did his best to

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Speaker 8: be athletic and unfathomable.

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Speaker 19: Well, something like that, that friend, says Mangioni was sociable

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Speaker 19: and pretty outgoing.

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Speaker 8: When he first came, he went on a surf lesson

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Speaker 8: with other members, and unfortunately just a basic surf lesson.

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Speaker 8: He was in bed for about a week. We had

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Speaker 8: to get a different bed firm that was more firm,

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Speaker 8: and I know it was really traumatic and difficult. You know,

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Speaker 8: when you're in the early twenties and you can't, you know,

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Speaker 8: do some basic things, it can be really really difficult.

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Speaker 19: Well, the victim's family say they're devastated. Mangioni's family say

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Speaker 19: also they're shocked and devastated by all of this. What

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Speaker 19: is unusual, though, has been some of the public reaction.

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Speaker 19: We're hearing many complaints about troubles with the health insurance

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Speaker 19: industry that are coming up right now, and especially United Healthcare,

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Speaker 19: the place run by the murder of victim. That's led

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Speaker 19: police and others to praise police actions and those of

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Speaker 19: the civilians who provided the tip off. They say, Luigi

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Speaker 19: Mangioni is not a hero, something I cannot recall hearing

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Speaker 19: about any other murder suspect in the past.

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Speaker 2: Amazing, rich Thank you so much. Appreciated. Richard Arnold, US

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Speaker 2: correspondent couldn't help yesterday, but I was when it became

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Speaker 2: clear who the guy was and you know, good looking,

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Speaker 2: young guy, ivy league, wealthy family couldn't help but think, jeez,

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Speaker 2: it must be tough for the parents. Imagine so proud

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Speaker 2: of him at one stage and so devastated now here

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Speaker 2: that this is exactly why we need more competition in

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Speaker 2: the banking sector. Well, I've got bad news for you,

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Speaker 2: the big competitor. We're all pinning our hopes on keywibank

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Speaker 2: way into this stuff as well. Stop banking. Remember, stop banking.

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Speaker 2: The coal industry entire West Coast was furious with them.

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Speaker 2: This happened about three or four years ago, and as

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Speaker 2: a result of that, actually the first time I actually

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Speaker 2: acted on any kind of principle, A shot all my

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Speaker 2: Keywi bank accounts and changed banks. Fortunately that's not happening

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Speaker 2: with B and Z because I'm not with them anyway.

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Speaker 2: We're going to deal with the health New Zealand numbers

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Speaker 2: numbers of doctors and nurses shortly nine away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Ellen pond one by costing breakfast with the range.

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Speaker 1: Rover Villain news to se B.

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Speaker 2: Mentioned earlier on that apparently the greyhound industry only had

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Speaker 2: forty five minutes worn that Winnie was going to shut

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Speaker 2: down greyhound racing. Yesterday. Somebody's text through as Joanne saying,

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Speaker 2: I suspect the very short notice to the greyhound industry

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Speaker 2: was to prevent the euthanazing of the excess dogs before

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Speaker 2: the law was passed. That was pretty grim last night,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it? Them going right? We're going to pass this

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Speaker 2: law to stop them slaughtering the dogs. Web chat to

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Speaker 2: the industry though with us about quarter pass and just

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Speaker 2: find out whether that was absolutely necessary. Six away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs. It's the Bearz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Hey, here's a bit of good news. Love it the

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Speaker 2: latest electronic card spending DATUS painting an optimistic picture heading

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Speaker 2: into the next year, into twenty five. This is from Kiwibank.

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Speaker 2: It's for the month of November, core retail spendings up

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Speaker 2: four percent compared to last year. Now, a lot of

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Speaker 2: that was driven by Black Friday and specials that seemed

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Speaker 2: to begin to be beginning earlier and earlier every single year.

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Speaker 2: The improving economic conditions helped as well. So because of

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Speaker 2: those specials, while there was an increase in volume, we

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Speaker 2: actually spent less per transaction. So the question, of course,

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Speaker 2: is our business is missing out? Now the total value

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Speaker 2: of spending for November dropped two and a half percent,

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Speaker 2: and the perceived value per transaction was six point two

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Speaker 2: percent cheaper compared to last year. The average spend for

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Speaker 2: key retail categories dropped in almost all areas. Department stores

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Speaker 2: down five percent, clothing and footwear down zero point nine,

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Speaker 2: home and contents and furnishing down fifteen percent, or most

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Speaker 2: home electronics down four stationary and books down zero point one.

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Speaker 2: So it's steady at least. Pharmacy up three point one percent.

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Speaker 2: Now that's because they aren't seen as a place to

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Speaker 2: get prescriptions anymore. Think chemist, warehouse, everything else that they stop. Overall,

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Speaker 2: we value experiences over material goods, which is good from us.

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Speaker 2: Spending on dining out, entertainment travel jumped up hugely. Money

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Speaker 2: spent on sporting entertainment an increase of thirty eight point

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Speaker 2: two percent. It's massive, flight bookings up nearly nineteen percent,

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Speaker 2: recreational accommodation up eleven percent. Now you could maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: argue that we aren't actually doing more, we're just spending

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Speaker 2: more because everyone has put their prices up, But then

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Speaker 2: maybe that's a little pessimistic and ruins a good news story.

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Speaker 2: So we're just going to go with hey, spendings up,

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Speaker 2: it's looking good for retail, all right.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Now on the health work as they came in, I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what like talk about vacancies. You've got a

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Speaker 2: vacancy in your business? What about this health? New Zealand

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Speaker 2: has put out the numbers of doctors and nurses that

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Speaker 2: they need. They need five thousand, two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: doctors in the next ten years. They need six thousand,

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Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty nurses.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: The good's massive, right, enough to make you go whah

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Speaker 2: waven like wave and try. That's just massive. But the

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Speaker 2: good news is we're actually getting on top of the nurses.

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Speaker 2: So we needed about thirteen thousand last year. Now we

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Speaker 2: need only about half of that, so that's doing okay.

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Speaker 2: Doctors though getting worse because we only needed five thousand,

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Speaker 2: one hundred last year. Now this year we need five thousand,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty. Something's not going right there. And

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Speaker 2: the other weird thing is, I don't know if you remember,

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Speaker 2: but a couple of weeks ago we realized that they

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Speaker 2: weren't actually hiring all the available nurses, only only offering

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Speaker 2: jobs to about half the graduates. So I have a

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Speaker 2: chat to Health New Zealand find out what on earth's

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Speaker 2: going on here? And also D Day for the fairies?

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Speaker 2: What are we getting for our money? What are we hearing?

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Speaker 2: Transporting New Zealand on that shortly news togs EDB.

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Speaker 1: The setting the news of Jedder and digging into the

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Speaker 1: issues Heather do for see Ellen on the mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News togs

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Speaker 1: d B.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning to you. So the corook straight faery

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Speaker 2: D Day has finally arrived. We should find out this

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Speaker 2: afternoon what fairies the government plans to buy in order

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Speaker 2: to replace the labor ordered Korean fairies that they've canceled,

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Speaker 2: you know the ones. I'm talking about this at three

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Speaker 2: billion dollar deal joining me now is Transporting New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: policy and advocacy lead Billy Clemens. He Billy, Oh Mornia,

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Speaker 2: what are you hearing? Are you hearing two smaller ships

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Speaker 2: at a cost of nine hundred million bucks with a

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Speaker 2: break fee of about three hundred million for the existing contract.

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Speaker 18: Oh look, we are reserving judgment on the on the

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Speaker 18: outcome until we hear that this afternoon. But look, I

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Speaker 18: think that what we have been hearing from the government

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Speaker 18: is fairly promising is that the overall costs will be

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Speaker 18: lower than that of the IRAS project, that hopefully we'll

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Speaker 18: continue to see a competitive market across the Strait, and

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Speaker 18: we'll also continue to see rail compatibility across the Strait,

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Speaker 18: even if that's not rail enablement.

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Speaker 2: What does rail compatibility mean. Isn't that what we've already

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Speaker 2: got where you basically just take the stuff off the

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Speaker 2: rail cards and put it on the fairies and then

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Speaker 2: load it back on on the other side.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, that's right essentially, So whereas rail enablement will have

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Speaker 18: those built and rail tracks on the vessels. Yeah, rail

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Speaker 18: capability and still ensures some degree of fixibility, but it

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Speaker 18: doesn't have some of those higher higher costs that railed

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Speaker 18: enablement means, which ultimately results in the irex project costs.

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Speaker 3: One of the.

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Speaker 18: Factors that lead to those costs continuingly glowing up.

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Speaker 2: Believe, if the reports are accurate nine hundred million for

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Speaker 2: the new fairies, three hundred for the break fee, then

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Speaker 2: we're at a cost of one point two billion dollars already, right,

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Speaker 2: so we're still shy of the three billion, but we

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Speaker 2: have to start upgrade the port infrastructure, don't we.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, look absolutely, I think that the over all irex

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Speaker 18: cost was about twenty percent was the fairies and eighty

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Speaker 18: percent was port side costs. So he had Treasury pointing

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Speaker 18: out that, yeah, this is essentially a port side instructure

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Speaker 18: project with some with some ferries tacked on.

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Speaker 2: And so guess we do the port side to just

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Speaker 2: you know handle medium sized fairies and just you know,

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Speaker 2: not fall into the sea. How much is that going

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Speaker 2: to cost?

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Speaker 18: Well, it'll be the season we've had from the government

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Speaker 18: as it will be significantly less than that three billion

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Speaker 18: dollar figure. I think that ultimately what was really expanding

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Speaker 18: the cost of those facilities, first of all that rail

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Speaker 18: enablement and the fact there were very very large vessels

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Speaker 18: that were coming in, but also the fact that you

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Speaker 18: had one hundred year design life of those facilities, and

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Speaker 18: so we might expect that to come down somewhat, but

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Speaker 18: ultimately we hope that we still see a reasonably well

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Speaker 18: future proof facility because that's that's important for not just

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Speaker 18: for entrial and but for any other computer I'm operating

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Speaker 18: on that on that route. You've got straight m Z

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Speaker 18: at the moment that actually got a slightly greatest year

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Speaker 18: of the overall commercial vehicle market.

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Speaker 2: Well stuff, Billy really appreciate talking to you. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Billy Clemens, Transporting New Zealand Policy and Advocacy Lead. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to politics Wednesday. Mark and Jenny will be thus

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Speaker 2: we'll have a chat to them about this after eight. Right, So,

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Speaker 2: howth New Zealand's new workforce plan makes for some grim reading.

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Speaker 2: They release the numbers we need another fifty or let's

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Speaker 2: try this, five two hundred and fifty doctors in the

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Speaker 2: next ten years and six three hundred and fifty nurses.

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Speaker 2: Now joining me right now is Health New Zealand CEO

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Speaker 2: Marji Appahamrjie.

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Speaker 15: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: How do we fill numbers that big? That's massive?

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Speaker 12: Oh as well.

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Speaker 15: Most of the progress of nesting, so you put doctors.

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Speaker 15: We've got a lot of work to do to recruit

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Speaker 15: but also important to grow our own and so you know,

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Speaker 15: we're really pleased that the initiative governs out to increase

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Speaker 15: the number of doctor training. But in the plan, you know,

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Speaker 15: we've got some really practical things that we need to do,

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Speaker 15: not just in secial treatment, but really focusing on those

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Speaker 15: specialties that need more doctors, growing your advancing, working with

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Speaker 15: private hospitals to get there involved, and helping us train

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Speaker 15: our staff. But also importantly, we have a lot of

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Speaker 15: doctors that leave the country early in their career and

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Speaker 15: we want to look at how we make advanced employment

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Speaker 15: officers and know that they can come home.

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Speaker 20: It's a job.

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Speaker 2: So if we're looking for some good news here, it's

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Speaker 2: the fact that we are actually catching up with the nurses.

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Speaker 2: Right We've managed to fill a whole bunch of vacancies,

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Speaker 2: but we're still not giving all the nurses graduating jobs.

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Speaker 15: Why not, Well, we have offered new grad jobs when

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Speaker 15: we've had turnover, so they're still in existing vacancies. Of course,

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Speaker 15: this year our vacancy is dropped right down to just

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Speaker 15: over two percent, which is quite unusual for our sector.

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Speaker 15: So we are looking at other ways to create employment opportunities.

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Speaker 15: We're putting out some funding to the funded sector primary

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Speaker 15: care agent diitual Care to take these grads, but we're

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Speaker 15: also looking at how we can create some other opportunities

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Speaker 15: for within Health New Zealand. Even if it means that

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Speaker 15: we're giving them some simple experience for a year or two,

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Speaker 15: but certainly would like to see our turnover rates go up.

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Speaker 2: Which help don't we have? Don't we have vacancies currently

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Speaker 2: twenty two hundred and fifty vacancies for nurses.

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Speaker 15: Yes, and some of those neses are for specialized areas.

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Speaker 15: And there are areas I've.

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Speaker 2: Got for example, right, So is it maijie? Is it

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Speaker 2: a case of we may have vacancies for senior nurses

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Speaker 2: which cannot be filled by graduates.

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Speaker 21: Correct?

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Speaker 15: Correct, And we would like to encourage our new grad nurses.

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Speaker 15: I've got a couple of hundred vacancies and mental health

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Speaker 15: for example, We'll be really keen to see some of

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Speaker 15: those roles with some helpfulce or good supervision. Can you

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Speaker 15: new grads can go into mental health rural and provincial areas.

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Speaker 15: We've got vacancies there that would like to encourage new

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Speaker 15: grads even if they have to shift, and if we

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Speaker 15: have to help them make that move, you know, we'd

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Speaker 15: like to put them to look at those opportunities as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, brilliant, Hey, thanks for talking us through at Major

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Speaker 2: Upper Health New Zealand seed Heather Dupless I have got

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Speaker 2: fantastic news for you. I'm full of good news for

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Speaker 2: you today, great news. Have you seen how rich we're

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Speaker 2: going to be when we introduce that capital gains tax?

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Speaker 2: We are absolutely going to be rolling in the dough.

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Speaker 2: So Debbie as in Debbie Narde Wapaka from the Marti Party,

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Speaker 2: Debbie was at Parliament News today and she just let

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Speaker 2: the cat out of the bag. She's like, two hundred

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Speaker 2: billion dollars. That's how much we're gonna make in the

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Speaker 2: next six years. I am thrilled. We're just gonna be

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Speaker 2: able to afford everything. Because let me just give you

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Speaker 2: an I'm just gonna put this in context for you.

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Speaker 2: How much money. Two hundred billion dollars is right, that's

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Speaker 2: thirty three billion dollars a year. Now, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: come back to that number. But two hundred billion dollars

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Speaker 2: six years, that's half the size of our entire economy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is a lot of money. This is

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Speaker 2: a slam dunk on the CGT.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 2: We got to do it because if you're going to

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Speaker 2: bring in half of your entire economy, you've got to

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Speaker 2: do it right. It would be for every single dollar

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Speaker 2: that the government spends in those six years, this would

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Speaker 2: bring in about a third or thereabouts. So that's huge.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna help the government, you know, basically afford everything.

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Speaker 2: It is also twenty times more than the tax Working Group,

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Speaker 2: who are they even, what do they know? Twenty times

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Speaker 2: more than they said we would bring in. So Debbie's

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Speaker 2: on the money with this one eight I feel like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I'm building a case for how absolutely

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Speaker 2: accurate Debbie is thirty three billion dollars a year. Now,

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Speaker 2: in order for us to get thirty three billion dollars

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Speaker 2: a year, what needs to happen is we need to

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Speaker 2: buy all the houses that we possibly can every single

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Speaker 2: year and then tax the hell out of them. Because

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Speaker 2: the highest number of how the biggest year property wise

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Speaker 2: was twenty twenty one, remember after COVID and everybody needs

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Speaker 2: to buy a beach house, and that year we bought

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Speaker 2: about ninety one billion dollars worth of housing stock. So

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Speaker 2: ninety one billion dollars if we can do that every

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Speaker 2: single year from here on, and so we're going to

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Speaker 2: have to start buying do that every single year, and

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Speaker 2: then we tax it at about thirty percent, So we're

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Speaker 2: just going to take a third of what you guess

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Speaker 2: roughly or thereabouts. I think we're going to be able

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Speaker 2: to make this work. I don't know about you, but

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling very confident about how awesome this capital gains

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Speaker 2: tax that Debbie's got planned for us.

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Speaker 2: Listen, we're getting news that there is something going on

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Speaker 2: at Auckland International Airport. The terminal isn't chaos because apparently

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Speaker 2: there's a network outage or something like that, which just

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Speaker 2: and it's unbelievable that this would be happening at Auckland

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Speaker 2: International Airport. I'll give you the details as soon as

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Speaker 2: we get them. Right now. Eighteen past seven. Now, as

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Speaker 2: we know, when he's pulled the pen on Greyhound racing,

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Speaker 2: the industry's got twenty months to wind itself down and

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Speaker 2: then by July twenty twenty six, it is going to

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Speaker 2: be gone. Greyhound. New Zealand CEO Edward Renelle is with us.

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Speaker 20: Hey, Edward, Yeah, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 2: List of this You see this coming?

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Speaker 20: No, we didn't, to be honest, clearly we knew whe

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Speaker 20: we were under review. But the progress we have made

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Speaker 20: from an animal wealthare perspective over the last two years

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Speaker 20: and the last and the punid riv report, we're actually

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Speaker 20: what's pretty positive. So, you know, we yesterday's announcement and

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Speaker 20: the like of notice of it certainly quarters by surprise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you only get a forty five minute heads up?

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 20: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Why do you think that is?

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Speaker 20: Well, look, it's not for me to answer that, but

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Speaker 20: clearly we would have liked the opportunity to speak to

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Speaker 20: government and outline what we've done in the steps we're doing,

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Speaker 20: in the commitment we've got too wellfare. You know, there's

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Speaker 20: the last economic impact studied as one thousand and fifty

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Speaker 20: four people employed by the industry, we contribute one hundred

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Speaker 20: and sixty million perandum to the economy. I think that's

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Speaker 20: certainly a decision that shouldn't be made lightly. And yeah,

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Speaker 20: for the sake of those one thousand and fifty four people,

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Speaker 20: I think the decision needs needs to be reviewed.

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Speaker 2: It was quite grim to have that legislation passed last

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Speaker 2: night to stop dog owners actually getting rid of their

872
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Speaker 2: dogs in some sort of a hurry. Was that I mean,

873
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 2: was that a real threat?

874
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Speaker 3: No?

875
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Speaker 20: I don't believe it is. And that we have our

876
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 20: Youth in Asia policy that effectively encapsulates that policy. So yeah,

877
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Speaker 20: it's an offense anyone in the industry to use and

878
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 20: as a dog without the only way a dog can

879
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Speaker 20: be uthinas is on welfare grounds and by a venerian

880
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 20: So yeah, yeah, it was covered by our euthanasia policy.

881
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: Do you plan to fight this or are you just

882
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: going to take it?

883
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Speaker 3: No?

884
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Speaker 20: Clearly yeah, for the sake of those people, we certainly

885
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Speaker 20: are looking forward to engaging with government that will require

886
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Speaker 20: an amendment to the racing Industry exer. Clearly, through the

887
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Speaker 20: Select Committee phase we will be outlining the case for

888
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,479
Speaker 20: greyhound racing very strongly and in many ways, I believe

889
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 20: greyhound racing is leading away from a wealthare perspective in

890
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 20: the raci industry in Newseum.

891
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Speaker 2: Do you reckon there's any point fighting it because it

892
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: feels like you might have lost your social license? What

893
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: do you think?

894
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 18: Well, I think.

895
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 20: It's not for me to decide, but we will certainly

896
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 20: be out I think this a hell of a lot

897
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 20: of misinformation out there in terms of grayhand racing. Clearly,

898
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Speaker 20: we owe it to the fifty four people that we

899
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 20: need to outline exactly the steps we're taken, and we're

900
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Speaker 20: not talking about growing and racing ten years ago. We're

901
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Speaker 20: talking about the present and I believe the welfare standards

902
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 20: we have in place appropriate to maintain a social license

903
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 20: to race.

904
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Speaker 2: Edward, thanks for talking us through. A best of luck

905
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: with everything, Edward and El Greyhound New Zealand CEO. Yeah,

906
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: here we go. Here's a text from Hamish here that

907
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: two weeks out from Christmas in Auckland and Auckland International

908
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: Airport is and chaos. The check and systems are down,

909
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 2: the boarding systems are down, it's all manual. The chicken

910
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: areas crammed with upset people. Officially, what we know is that, yeah,

911
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 2: there's a tech outage affecting the check in this morning.

912
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: But fortunately can tell you airport staff are offering passengers

913
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: water and snacks. So you thought you were going overseas,

914
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: but you're staying here and we're giving your water in

915
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: a snack. Seven twenty one.

916
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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast, Full Show podcust on aheart Radio

917
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Speaker 1: pw it By News talksb.

918
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: Hey Reasonably Big climate news Today, the government's put out

919
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: its second to mission's reduction plan. We talk to the

920
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: Ministry about that after half past seven seven twenty four.

921
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: At the moment, it looks like New Zealand Posts might

922
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: finally pull a trigger that they haven't pulled yet, and

923
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: they are now talking about actually stopping the delivery of

924
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: mail to some letter boxes. Now this you might go,

925
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: hold on, have I heard this before? You kind of

926
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: have heard this before, but not really, because up to

927
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: now the proposal has been, as far as I can see,

928
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: mostly to deliver, not to stop delivering to new houses.

929
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: What they're now talking about is actually not delivering to

930
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: houses that already get the letters. Right, so you already

931
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: have a house, you already have a letter box, Your

932
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: letter box has been getting letters for years. But now

933
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: they're saying we're going to stop doing that and instead,

934
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Speaker 2: somewhere down the road or somewhere in town have a

935
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Speaker 2: cluster of boxes like a post office where you basically

936
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Speaker 2: have to go get your mail. And according to the plan,

937
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: if they get their way, what they would do is

938
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Speaker 2: they would cut five percent of letter boxes every single year.

939
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: So presumably within twenty years you get to one hundred

940
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Speaker 2: percent and no one's getting any more mail anymore. Now

941
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: I'm surprised by this and when I say surprised, unpleasantly surprised,

942
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm surprised New Zealand Post is prepared to be this

943
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: bold because, let's be honest about it. We don't have

944
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: to do this at some point, aren't we. I mean,

945
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 2: letters are a luxury. They cost us as a country

946
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: a lot of money. And this is what I think

947
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 2: we fail to understand a lot of the time. Getting

948
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: the guy around to drop your blinking I don't know whatever.

949
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: Direct mail from the taxpayer's union off to you is

950
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: not free. The New Zealand Post lost fourteen million dollars

951
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: in the last financial year. It lost fifty six million

952
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: dollars in the year before. That's money that we as

953
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: the taxpayer are basically losing. Now most things you get

954
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: you get in the letter. You can actually get on

955
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: an email. Now you can get your power bill, your

956
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: water bill, your rates bill, whatever. Some things still have

957
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: to come in the mail. I give you that your

958
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: credit card, maybe that little thing that you put in

959
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: that tails you've got an existing warrant of fitness or

960
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: regil whatever it is. But actually you can even get

961
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: that stuff in Korea instead of on the letters. I'm

962
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: not sure that there's anything that you have to get

963
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: via a letter that you can't get in some other form. Now,

964
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm not heartless about this, right, I get that there

965
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 2: are some communities that are going to be hit harder

966
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: than others when eventually we get to the point where

967
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Speaker 2: they are actually pulling the letters out of our letter boxes,

968
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 2: the alder rural communities and so on. But frankly, it's

969
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: going to be a slip for all of us. So

970
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: they have to go down to wherever and get the

971
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: letter out of the old cluster box in town. So

972
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 2: we're all going to be in this together. But here's

973
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: the thing, right, the writing's been on the wall for ages.

974
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: The trend in letters is only going one way, and

975
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: that's downhill. And it's not a surprise it's coming to this.

976
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: It's just a pleasant surprise that New Zealand Post has

977
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: actually got the courage to start doing this and talking

978
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 2: about it right.

979
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: Now, Together do for Sea Allen.

980
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: Hither that satire on the capital Gains tax was a

981
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: little too subtle. I only realized you were joking at

982
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: the end. Hither, surely you are taking the piss about

983
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: the CGT. Debbie has not got a degree in finance,

984
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: give me strength herether have you checked guys? Have you

985
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 2: checked her numbers? You're such a just did Okay, I'm

986
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: going to I'm going to dial back the sarcasm, but

987
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: just I don't know how to, because there's nothing I

988
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 2: can do but be sarcastic about stuff like that, because

989
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: otherwise I would cry at the incompetence of it. So

990
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: I was trying to deliver the incompetence to you in

991
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: a way that you could kind of get it anyway.

992
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: But then it turns out I was also too sarcastic

993
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: about Auckland International Airport because hither I don't know what

994
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: rock you've been hiding under, but Auckland Airport's been in

995
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: chaos for years.

996
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: I know. I know.

997
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm giving you all of the sarcasms.

998
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 14: So what we're gonna do jokes than when you have

999
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 14: to explain them, I find Yeah.

1000
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: I've completely ruined everything by having to now explain to

1001
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: you that I do not think the CGT is going

1002
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: to work, and I think Auckland Airport is the international

1003
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: part is a complete show.

1004
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 14: Now that's not what you said. You've changed your mind completely.

1005
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: Now, as I as a woman prerogative, I will end

1006
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: everything with just joking headlines?

1007
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: Next, The Breakfast Show You Can Trust Heather duper c

1008
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: Allen on the mic costing Breakfast with the range rovervi

1009
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: LA designed to intrigue and use togs dead b.

1010
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: Heather, have you seen the napkin that the capital gains

1011
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: tax numbers were written on? I don't think the napkin

1012
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: was big enough for all of the zero's for how

1013
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: much money we're going to raken? By the way, sarcasm joke, Heather,

1014
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: Is there any truth that you have? Nikola Willison after

1015
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 2: eight and talk about her new book, Away with the Fairies,

1016
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 2: also a joke. We've got nick We've got Mike Mitchell obviously,

1017
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: and Jenny Anderson Regular Politics Wednesday crew will be in.

1018
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: One of the things we're gonna have to talk to

1019
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: Mitch about is that he has now appears another broken

1020
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: promise on the old policing front. He's not going to

1021
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: be introducing the legislation this year to crack down on

1022
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: the boy races, which he said he would be doing.

1023
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: And this is obviously after the five hundred cops that

1024
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: were probably not going to get in two years even

1025
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 2: though we're supposed to. And then you know, on another front,

1026
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: he's not responsible for it, but same government surplus by

1027
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven not going to happen, So we'll have

1028
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: a chat to them about it very shortly. It's twenty

1029
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 2: two away from eight.

1030
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: When you're still in the snool.

1031
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: So the government's unveiled the country's second emissions reduction plan.

1032
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: This covers the period from twenty twenty six to twenty

1033
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: thirty and this is apparently so ambitious. We're going to

1034
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: meet our net zero twenty fifty target by twenty forty four.

1035
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: The Climate Change Minister Simon, what's morning, Simon, Very good morning, Simon.

1036
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: What's the magic trick here? What's the thing that you're

1037
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: doing to get it down so quickly?

1038
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 22: Well, we're actually working with industry and business and we're

1039
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 22: not just forcing and trying to write a teck from government.

1040
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 22: We've got a number of initiatives across key sectors agriculture,

1041
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 22: transport and also energy and you know, at the end

1042
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 22: of the day, those initiatives are going to allow us

1043
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 22: to hit our targets.

1044
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: There is a little bit of reliance here on like

1045
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: things like methane busting technology which hasn't been proven yet.

1046
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: Are we being a little hopeful.

1047
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 20: No, we've been.

1048
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 22: Working with the industry, We're working closely with the players

1049
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 22: that are involved. We've taken a conservative position around that,

1050
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 22: but you know, we need a plan that's practical and

1051
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 22: achievable and we're not into pie in the sky. We've

1052
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 22: been very conservative around some of our estimates and we

1053
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 22: are confident the numbers we've got in there are going

1054
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 22: to be the ones that are able to be delivered.

1055
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: What have you been conservative around, Well, well, we can take.

1056
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 22: A good look at the risks around the different products

1057
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 22: and the outcomes that they're going to and we know

1058
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 22: that there's a lot of unknowns in that space, and

1059
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 22: we've taken a midpoint around some of those estimates. But

1060
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 22: you know, our conversations with a number of these products,

1061
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 22: incoding most or a lot of them that are made

1062
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 22: and being produced in New Zealand is that they are coming,

1063
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 22: and they're coming pretty soon, and you know that's going

1064
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 22: to have a big impact for us. But also importantly, how.

1065
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: Economy have we brought down the cost? How much we're

1066
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: going to pay other countries to plant trees for us.

1067
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 22: What we've done is we've introduced and we've made announcement

1068
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 22: last week, Minnis maclay and I around looking at a

1069
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 22: forestation on crown land. We got a lot of crownland

1070
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 22: that is not being utilized at the moment and we

1071
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 22: see an opportunity there for us to work with a

1072
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 22: private sector to do that. We've also put some caps

1073
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 22: in regards to forestry on productive farmland, which we said

1074
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 22: we'd do it the election, and a combination of those

1075
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 22: policies is going to help us achieve our targets.

1076
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: Right, So instead of paying others to plant our trees,

1077
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: we plant our trees on crownland ourselves.

1078
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 22: Yeah, all we've said is we want to work with

1079
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 22: a private sector to utilize unutilized crown land to plant trees.

1080
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 22: And some of that benefit will benefit our climate targets,

1081
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Speaker 22: but also more importantly, it'll benefit our economy through more

1082
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Speaker 22: forestry products and more forestry excerpts.

1083
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: So have you got an update because the last update

1084
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 2: on how much it was going to cost us to

1085
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: pay the other countries to plant the trees for us

1086
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Speaker 2: was twenty four bill by twenty thirty. What's it now?

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Speaker 22: So the number in the plan is that number is

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00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 22: down to around eighty four a million ton gap. It

1089
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 22: was one hundred and one million when we did the

1090
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 22: draft plan. It's still significant gap and the focus has

1091
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 22: been by this government this plan is on our domestic

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00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 22: targets and what we can do in that regard. Obviously

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00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 22: we're going to put thought to the international targets, but

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Speaker 22: my adjective from the Prime ministers to make sure that

1095
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 22: we're on track for what's in New Zealand law, and

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00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 22: the plan that we've released today will achieve that.

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Speaker 2: Simon not my maths isn't awesome, but that sounded to

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00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: me like it's about eighty percent. The gap is about

1099
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: eighty percent of what it was, and eighty percent of

1100
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: twenty four billion would roughly about twenty billion. So we're

1101
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,479
Speaker 2: still facing a bill of about twenty billion dollars.

1102
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 22: Yeah, no, no, we're not going to face a bill

1103
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 22: of that scale. There is a significant number of options

1104
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 22: that we are going to have to consider around how

1105
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 22: we do that the price in order to achieve that

1106
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 22: in the way in which we achieve that, there is

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00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 22: a variety of options. But look, the government tends to

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00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 22: meet its target. Yeah, this deans focused on our domestic stuff,

1109
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 22: which is in our domestic law, and we're on.

1110
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: Track so if the bill is not twenty four billion

1111
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 2: or twenty billion, what is it?

1112
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 22: We don't know the expact number because the reality is

1113
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 22: there's still more work to be done in that space.

1114
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that did they not give you a little like

1115
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: a little range of what it may possibly be.

1116
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 21: They didn't.

1117
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 22: They provide the gap in terms of our target and

1118
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 22: what we're tracking, and that number has been updated, but

1119
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 22: the fiscal aspect is significant step beyond that because there

1120
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 22: are so many unknowns.

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00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: Brilliant stuff, Simon, thanks for talking a US sir at Simon.

1122
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: Watt's climate changement is to can't wait to see what

1123
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,959
Speaker 2: that bill is going to be. Heather, can you please

1124
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: ask Ginny about her coalition partner Debbie and how confident

1125
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: she is in the CGT numbers? Done? Will do? By

1126
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: the way, in Wellington, because I do like a story

1127
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: out of Wellington just to remind you of that there's

1128
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: the country living normal life, and then there's Wellington. And

1129
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: in Wellington, one of the key power brokers, of course

1130
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: is the PSA, the Public Service Association, because they represent

1131
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: all the civil servants. There are a lot of civil

1132
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: servants in Wellington. The PSA has announced it's taking legal

1133
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: action against the government over the fact that the government

1134
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: has ordered the civil servants, the public servants back into

1135
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: the office because you remember how they were like that,

1136
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: working from home things not working for us, You need

1137
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: to come in please. They reckon that it violates agreed

1138
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 2: upon flexible working principles. Filed proceedings with the Employment Relations Authority,

1139
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: the PSA's acting National Secretary and remember this name, Flirfit

1140
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 2: Simon's because she wants to be a lab MP Fleur

1141
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 2: said the government cannot simply require public servants to stop

1142
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: working from home. I feel like it says a lot

1143
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: about the old work working attitude. What do you think

1144
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that reflects well on the public servants

1145
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: or the union. Seventeen away roommate the Mike Asking Breakfast

1146
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks at Me. Hey,

1147
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a chat to David Moffatt shortly because

1148
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: there's a rumor that the next chair of New Zealand

1149
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: Rugby to replace my mate Dame Patsy, It's going to

1150
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: be David Kirk. You know David Kirk, And that's a

1151
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: little controversial, so I'll run you through that shortly. Now

1152
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of drama in Parliament last night.

1153
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: It's wee bit technical, but it was weird. What happened

1154
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: was they were busy debating and voting on the Fast

1155
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: Track Approvals Bill and it got to a brand about

1156
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: half by seven last night, and then things started going

1157
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: a bit strange.

1158
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 23: You've been here longer than me, but I've still a

1159
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 23: relatively long standing member, having been here for sixteen years.

1160
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 23: I have never seen the ruling of a presiding officer,

1161
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 23: a chair of the committee of the whole House overruled

1162
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 23: by the speaker.

1163
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: So what happened is that the Clerk of the House

1164
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: is kind of like the nerdy lawyer guy there. He

1165
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: looked at the amendments of this fast Track Approvals bill.

1166
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: He said, this bill, No, there shouldn't be a government bill.

1167
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: There should be a private member's bill because it's largely

1168
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: of benefit primarily to privat ingcit He's very technical, but anyway,

1169
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: he said, no, it should be a private member's bill.

1170
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: And so Barbara Kruger, who was in the big chair,

1171
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: said okay, and so she ruled it should be a

1172
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: private member's bill. But then the Nats were not happy

1173
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: about it and they will got to get the big

1174
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: guy back in, So Jerry had to come back in,

1175
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: sit in the big chair and overrule her.

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00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 9: The Government is entitled to put legislation before the House

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00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 9: of this nature and we ask you, Sir, to overturn

1178
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 9: the ruling.

1179
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 22: Of Madame Chair in the Committee of the Whole Hostate.

1180
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: Now Labour was not happy about that.

1181
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 24: I'm not aware of any instance our researchers aren't aware

1182
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 24: of any instance ever in the New Zealand Parliament where

1183
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 24: the clerk's advice on matters such as this when the

1184
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 24: speaker's been recalled has been overruled.

1185
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: Now Jerry did overrule Barbara on that one, and so

1186
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: the NAT's got what they wanted and they carried on. Now,

1187
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: in and of itself, this kind of thing is not

1188
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 2: the kind of thing that most of us are gonna

1189
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: lose sleep over, Like I don't need any of us

1190
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: saw that happen at half past seven and said, oh,

1191
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: I will get not a winker sleep for the rest

1192
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: of the night. After this unfolded the port of drama.

1193
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: None of us thought that, not even them probably, But

1194
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: it is unusual and in the case of a bill

1195
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: that's already really controversial for bending rules. I reckon this

1196
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: is probably not gonna help its pr This is gonna

1197
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: give labor another attack line. We'll have a chat to

1198
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: the pollys after eight o'clock. Quickly, Time Time has released

1199
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Speaker 2: its This is Time Magazine Person of the Year twenty

1200
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: twenty four shortlist. I'll run you through the highlights on

1201
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: the Swinterkay. So in the shortlist, it's not the Person

1202
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: of the Year yet, it's just how it's gonna be. Catherine,

1203
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 2: as in Princess Catherine basically on the short list because

1204
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: she got cancer, because the blurb says, stirred a conversation

1205
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: about privacy and health for public figures. She's been a

1206
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: runner up previously, hasn't actually won it. Donald Trump is

1207
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 2: back on the shortlist basically because winning again has broken

1208
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: broken a bunch of records. He's gonna be the oldest

1209
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: president in US history, and he's going to be a

1210
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 2: president who was convicted as a felon, so that's kind

1211
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: of interesting. He's already taken out once before, in twenty sixteen.

1212
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: Carmela Harris is on for basically running a campaign that's

1213
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: literally it, for running a quote remarkable one hundred and

1214
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 2: seven day presidential campaign, but then losing it. Anyway, She's

1215
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: already had it because she was She and Biden got

1216
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: it in twenty twenty together when they knocked Trumpy out

1217
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 2: of the house. Joe Rogan is on the list because

1218
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 2: he has basically got a great podcast for the fifth

1219
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: Enna Roads, being named Spotify's top podcast racing.

1220
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 14: A popular podcast. I don't know that we need, sincerely

1221
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 14: need to call it a great podcast, do he?

1222
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 2: Oh no, Actually that is a fair point, and that's

1223
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: not sarcasm from you, that's just accuracy. Rogan is a

1224
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: polarizing figure, having faced backlash for spreading COVIDT misinformation on

1225
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: his show using racial slurs in the past. I don't

1226
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: feel like he's going to win it based on that.

1227
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 2: I don't know about you. Elon Musk, He's in basically

1228
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: because he managed to hitch his wagon to Trump and

1229
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: actually get something of it. He was already named in

1230
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. Mark Zuckerberg facebooks on it because he

1231
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: called out Elon Musks. They had Basically, they're both on

1232
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: it for being on both sides of the Little bro

1233
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 2: war for calling him out for some misinformation. He's already

1234
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: had it as well in twenty ten, and then there's

1235
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: various other people. Probably the most controversial I think is

1236
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: Benjamin Netanya, who he's on the list for killing people literally,

1237
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: it says the fine criticism of his war on Hamas,

1238
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: the terrorist organization that killed twelve hundred people in an

1239
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: attack on Israel. Netanya, who continued his military assault on

1240
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: the Gaza Strip this year, even as the death told

1241
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: there rose to forty four fifty six according to the

1242
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: Gaza Health Ministry. I don't think. I mean, I know that,

1243
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: I know that you get named the person, regardless of

1244
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: whether you're goody or a baddie, is just where they've

1245
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: had a massive impact. So he's technically in the running,

1246
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: but I don't feel like he's going to get it.

1247
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put my money on Catherine. I reckon she's

1248
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: gonna get sympathy vote on this one, and she's kind

1249
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 2: of cool at the moment. So there you are, nine

1250
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: away from ak Yeah, the dupless.

1251
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: Hellent Farm, the my Casking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate

1252
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: news dogs, they'd be.

1253
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: By the way. On Debbie and her CGT numbers. We've

1254
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: actually got a bit of Debbie, Debbie talking about it,

1255
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: so hopefully we'll get some time in the next half

1256
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: hour to let you listen to Debbie selling her idea

1257
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: right at you. It sticks away from mate. Now, the

1258
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 2: rumor is that the next chair of New Zealand Rugby

1259
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: to replace Dame Patsy Ready, is going to be David Kirk.

1260
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: Obviously a name synonymous with rugby, so that's a good thing.

1261
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: A few wrinkles in that appointment, though, former end z

1262
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: are CEO David Moffat is with me now, morning David, Morning, Heather. Okay.

1263
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: The first wrinkle is that he doesn't actually live in

1264
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: New Zealand. He lives in Sydney. Is that a problem

1265
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: for you?

1266
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 21: Not really, but I would say there'd be a caveat

1267
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 21: to that.

1268
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

1269
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 21: Firstly, I'm sure he will be spending quite a lot

1270
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 21: of time trying to figure out what's happening or what

1271
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 21: has been happening with New Zealand Rugby. But as long

1272
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 21: as he can appoint his own chief executive and as

1273
00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 21: absolute faith in that person, I think he could work.

1274
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: Do you think the signals the end of Mark Robinson?

1275
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 21: Well, my views about him are very well known, Heather,

1276
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 21: as you know, I think We've talked about it in

1277
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 21: the past. I think one of the things that a

1278
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 21: guy like David Kirk needs is somebody that if he's

1279
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 21: not here all the time, that he can actually have

1280
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 21: a lot of faith in and trust in to do

1281
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 21: what's right by New Zealand Rugby. And somebody who's not

1282
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 21: going to be jumping on a plane every five minutes,

1283
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 21: somebody who's going to knuckle down and basically get a

1284
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 21: lot of changes that are required in ens are at

1285
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 21: the moment.

1286
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: But the more interesting rinkle I reckon is that he is.

1287
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: This is David as the president of the Players Association,

1288
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: which got into a massive spet with inside Out about

1289
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: the silver Lake deal that he will now be in

1290
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: charge of implementing.

1291
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Speaker 21: Yeah, he will, But I mean he's a really smart guy.

1292
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 21: And what's more, he's been very successful in business and

1293
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 21: very successful on the rugby field and with Wellington as

1294
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 21: an administrator. So he's really great at the intersection of

1295
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 21: the professional game and also the community game. And of

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Speaker 21: course it's the community game that needs a whole lot

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Speaker 21: of attention at the moment, having been ignored for so long.

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Speaker 21: So look, I've got no problems really with that because

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Speaker 21: as I said, David is a really clued up guy.

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Speaker 21: He's got a lot of contacts right around the world.

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Speaker 21: I think he'll do a great job.

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Speaker 2: And now, which is such an important part of this

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Speaker 2: I would imagine David, thank you very much as always,

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Speaker 2: David Moffatt, former New Zealand Rugby CEO. Heither I post

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Speaker 2: cards and letters to friends at significant moments in their lives,

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Speaker 2: and as an example, I'm sending a bereavement card today.

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Speaker 2: It's much nicer than an email. For some controversial take

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Speaker 2: on lists, I want you to be able to send

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Speaker 2: your postcards in your letters. But my controversial take is

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Speaker 2: you now have to do it on the career. What

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Speaker 2: do you think about that?

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Speaker 3: Can we do that?

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Speaker 2: Then we don't have to spend millions on music and

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Speaker 2: post which is career cards and letters to each other.

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Speaker 2: We have to Polly's next Newstalks reb.

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Speaker 1: The news Fold Opinions, Heather Duplessy Allen on the Mike

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Speaker 1: asking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news talks Dead b.

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Speaker 10: Doll Dollar.

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Speaker 2: Right, You'll know the song, but you'll be like, who

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Speaker 2: is this doing the song? Obviously if you don't know

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Speaker 2: the song, let me fill you. When it's the Beatles.

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Speaker 2: This is louc Cinder Williams singing the Beatles from Abbey Road.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm just trying to decide if I like it

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Speaker 2: or not. Just then Lou Lou does this. Lou likes

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Speaker 2: to do covers lately of other people's songs. She's she

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Speaker 2: calls it her her jukebox, so lose jukebox, and she's

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Speaker 2: on volume seven of it. So she's done a lot

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Speaker 2: of butchering of other people's music or reinterpreting or improving.

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Speaker 2: It's entirely up to you and your ViBe's on it.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of songs on How many songs

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Speaker 2: are there? I know Mike likes to tell you this,

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Speaker 2: there are twelve of them. So if you like it,

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Speaker 2: twelve of these beauties to have a listened to with

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Speaker 2: me right now, We've got politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell, Jenny Anderson,

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Speaker 2: hire you too, but up you're Ally Jinny.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I quite like it. I'm there to go, I

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Speaker 25: think she she reminds me a bit of Miley Cyrus.

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Speaker 25: She does those sort of renditions of old songs with

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Speaker 25: a gravely tone.

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Speaker 7: I don't mind it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I don't mind it too. Actually, if I'm

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Speaker 2: completely honest with you, Okay, Jenny Listener, you're going to

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Speaker 2: be submitting on the post. Do you want the letter box?

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Speaker 2: Do you want the letters to arrive in your letterbox?

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Speaker 7: Submitting on the post?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Post wants to take the letters out of

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Speaker 2: the letter box five percent of us at a time,

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Speaker 2: every single year, and then make us go down the

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Speaker 2: road and get it from a cluss the letterbox.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not ideal.

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Speaker 25: Is that when a mail was really important partecularly to

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Speaker 25: see your New Zealanders. I hear that a lot as

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Speaker 25: a local MP. And so it's one of the big

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Speaker 25: challenges with people moving away from sending leaders is that

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Speaker 25: people are still around who want them.

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Speaker 2: I'm into it, Mitch, I reckon. I can find better

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Speaker 2: things to do with the millions of dollars that we

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Speaker 2: spend on the posters every year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean the thing, the way we receive our information

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Speaker 6: get our information out is changing.

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Speaker 3: Without a doubt.

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Speaker 6: That's been happy now for ten to fifteen years. I look,

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Speaker 6: I've had a po box most of my life. Just

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Speaker 6: the way it's been so yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: Basically like that's basically going back to the old days. Now, Mitch,

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Speaker 2: I need to talk to you about this business with

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Speaker 2: the boy racer broken promise. What's going on here? Why

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Speaker 2: couldn't you get your legislation.

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Speaker 12: In this year?

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Speaker 3: So, look, there's the ledgers, a bit more complex than

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Speaker 3: I thought.

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Speaker 6: I just want to start taking these boy racers cars

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Speaker 6: and bites and start crushing them.

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Speaker 2: What's complex about that?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 7: There, I thought Judith did that, did not do that?

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Speaker 6: Well, well, Judith had outstanding legislation, but it required three warnings,

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Speaker 6: and I'm taking the three warnings away. We're just going

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Speaker 6: to start taking them. So the long and short of

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01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 6: it is, there's a bit more complexity in there. But

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Speaker 6: the good news is it's on the front of the

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Speaker 6: queue for next year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is there? Okay with you? Ginny? Can we wait

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Speaker 2: for a little bit longer. I mean, it's not like

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Speaker 2: anything's going to happen over some anyway, is it.

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Speaker 25: Well, he did say he'd also get five hundred police

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Speaker 25: officers by the end of November, and then the commissioners.

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Speaker 25: You know, he's not say that and then and so

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Speaker 25: and but then he's trying to guess everyone by saying oh, no, no, no,

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01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 25: we're all the same page. So I wonder whether he's.

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Speaker 7: Going to do the same thing with the boy racers.

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Speaker 25: You know, it does seem like a bit of a

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Speaker 25: pattern with Mark but big stuff and doesn't mean it.

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Speaker 6: Well, I can, I can tell you this much on

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Speaker 6: hereded shambles where crime was heading in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 6: We've got more police down on the beat, Aorklan CBDs,

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Speaker 6: a lot safer. Gang Ledge is proving to be very

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Speaker 6: effective on getting top on top of the group.

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Speaker 7: That's so I've got at reciting these lines.

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Speaker 2: I've got to get them.

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Speaker 7: You're really good at getting out you know, you do

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Speaker 7: them again again.

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Speaker 3: Like a little button.

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Speaker 6: Well, Jenny, Jenny, Jenny, You and Chris Hipkins wandered with

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Speaker 6: confused folk.

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Speaker 7: It looks on your face to say that is today too,

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Speaker 7: that's another one of you.

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Speaker 6: Well, well that's the reality of it. I don't know

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Speaker 6: why is policeman, So you weren't up dealing with your CPD.

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Speaker 6: I don't know why you weren't over in a pokey

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Speaker 6: dealing with all the gang harm.

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Speaker 7: Over Well, you'd be surprised. You make stuff up, But

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Speaker 7: I wasn't back.

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Speaker 6: That's the whole problem. And that's why the good news

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Speaker 6: is keeps are starting to feel safer. We've got a

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Speaker 6: lot more work to do. We know that when here

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Speaker 6: it is a miss, but we're making some good and

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Speaker 6: rights and I want to acknowledge the police.

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Speaker 25: Yeah here that I just want to say here, there's

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Speaker 25: been that one News poll out again around about seventy

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Speaker 25: percent of New Zealanders either don't feel safer or no difference.

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Speaker 7: So I'm not sure how make comes to that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand that because I know literally nobody who

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Speaker 2: doesn't like what they're seeing with the police. And how

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Speaker 2: do we explain this CHINNI.

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Speaker 25: Well, you'd have to ask all those New Zealanders who

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Speaker 25: were interviewed by TV one seventy percent say no difference

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Speaker 25: or not safer from this government.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's that's that's actually not true. And the problem

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Speaker 6: with Jinny, with your numbers is you can never it's

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Speaker 6: exactly true.

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Speaker 7: Add up the two lots and is that two lots

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Speaker 7: edited together who no difference? You can go back check

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Speaker 7: them up.

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Speaker 6: The check to the matter is this, Jenny, is that

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Speaker 6: one US polled earlier in the year and they pulled

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Speaker 6: again a couple of days ago, and there is a

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Speaker 6: definite trend of people in this country starting to feel safer.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, can I just say that poll though, Jenny,

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Speaker 2: I reckon the answer actually lies in the question. And

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Speaker 2: I remember thinking this at the time, because the question

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Speaker 2: was do New Zealanders feel safer under the Coalition's law

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Speaker 2: and order policies? And and if you ask me that

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Speaker 2: question without specifying which policies you're talking about, I reckon

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Speaker 2: I would scratch my brain also. But I think it

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Speaker 2: was too vague. Like I think if they were like,

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Speaker 2: do you feel safer with the crackdown on gangs? I'd

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01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 2: be like, yep, do you feel safer with more cops

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Speaker 2: on the beat?

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: It was just it was a badly worded question, I think,

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Speaker 2: which that's.

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Speaker 25: The sick yeah, which sometimes sometimes those polls the way

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Speaker 25: they worded it as difficult and actually acknowledge that.

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Speaker 2: It brings us to the treaty principles one which I'll

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Speaker 2: have to talk about. But Mitch tell me quickly, Hey,

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Speaker 2: can we just settle this thing for me? When are

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Speaker 2: we getting the five hundred cops? Are we getting them?

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Speaker 2: On the twenty seventh of November twenty The target.

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Speaker 6: The target has always been as part of the couldure

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Speaker 6: that we are driving towards November twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: We know that is ambitious, and we know that we've

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Speaker 3: got some hidden.

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Speaker 2: Are we getting them all by November twenty four?

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Speaker 3: So that is what we're working towards here.

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Speaker 25: Then the point is that, right, we know he's not

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Speaker 25: going to get there. The police have said that, but

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Speaker 25: they have to say this because of the coalition deal.

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Speaker 25: But it's just going to be problematic as we get

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Speaker 25: closer and closer to twenty seven November and they're not

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Speaker 25: going to have them. This is going to make life

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Speaker 25: harder for Mark. So he's just on that now and

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01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 25: say look, we're not going.

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Speaker 3: To do it.

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Speaker 2: To win his office. And so when he can't, I

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Speaker 2: just tell the truth.

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Speaker 3: Please give me permission, trust me, Ginny, things been hard.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't bother me at all. We're going to That is

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Speaker 3: our target. That is what we'reiming for.

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Speaker 6: Casey, who's got the delegation, is working daily on this

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Speaker 6: to make sure that we strive and we will deliver

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Speaker 6: on that number.

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Speaker 2: All right, listen, we'll come back after the break. Got

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Speaker 2: to talk about Debbie and her her tax numbers eight fourteen.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, it

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be right.

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Speaker 2: You're back with politics Wednesday, Ginny and Mark Jinny. Did

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Speaker 2: you did you see Debbie's maths on the CGT.

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Speaker 7: I did?

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Speaker 2: I did you like it?

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Speaker 25: I think they could numbers could be a bit out.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a little like maybe twenty times.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, it does seem like a lot and that's not

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Speaker 25: what the text working group got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it does seemkay you feel about I mean,

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Speaker 2: because the thing is the other day Chippy ruled out

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Speaker 2: essentially working with Winston again. That leaves you the Greens

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Speaker 2: and the Maori Party to form government with. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is not good for your your economic credibility on

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Speaker 2: either of those fronts, is it.

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Speaker 25: Well, it's a long way to go before then, and

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01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 25: we'll be doing a lot of work between her maths,

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01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 25: we're doing work on also on what's what's the text?

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Speaker 25: It will be workable to get us out of this

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Speaker 25: situation where you've got a lot of people getting older

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Speaker 25: with not enough text.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, nobody surprised, are they by Debbie's meths.

1513
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 6: Well, maybe they'll make as part of the Green Coalition,

1514
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 6: they might make Debbie finance spokes.

1515
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 3: Labor.

1516
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 7: Can the imagine this?

1517
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 25: Imagine this, Imagine if we had a gun lobbyist in

1518
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 25: our party and we made them the minister in charge

1519
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:22,919
Speaker 25: of rewriting the firearms.

1520
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 7: That would be crazy. Oh wait wait they did that?

1521
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 3: Hey did it?

1522
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 7: Didn't that?

1523
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm I'm least scared of a gun

1524
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 2: lobbyist running guns than I am a Debbie running the book.

1525
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 6: Jenny's criticizing someone that that worked across government and actually

1526
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 6: making the country safer.

1527
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 3: Motivated doing that.

1528
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 6: But yeah, you're remark I would support I would support

1529
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,959
Speaker 6: Debbie as the finite spokesperson for the greend.

1530
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 2: Hey, Letch give me give me your lines on the fairies.

1531
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 2: What are we hearing today?

1532
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 6: Well, I think there's the announcement is today, So obviously

1533
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 6: obviously there was announcement to I.

1534
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 7: Don't think they've got key lines on that one.

1535
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 2: So much so, Mitch, do you know that we're getting

1536
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: two medium sized fairies for more than we would have

1537
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 2: got two big fairies for.

1538
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 6: I can't get ahead of the announcement that the fact

1539
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 6: of the matter is that there will be an announcement,

1540
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 6: but it won't be me making it, obviously, Nicola, and

1541
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 6: and I can't get ahead of that.

1542
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 2: Are we paying? Are we paying more for the two

1543
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: Toyota corollas than we would have for the two ferraris?

1544
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 3: So again, I know, as much as I'd like to

1545
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 3: tell you here that I cannot say anything on that.

1546
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, We've got as far as possibly could with

1547
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 2: that one, I think, Ginny, Anyway, what do you guys know, Ginny,

1548
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: because you.

1549
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 25: Know more well, the break fee is meant to be

1550
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 25: three hundred millions, and that's not the end of it.

1551
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 25: So that's the concern for us that will end up

1552
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,600
Speaker 25: still in negotiations with Korea for this IRX deal, and

1553
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 25: that's going to keep going up because they've got out

1554
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 25: of a contract that was already in place, and that's

1555
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 25: going to cost Keyw's for nothing.

1556
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 2: But so okay, so hold on, So, Ginny, are you

1557
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: here that the three hundred million break fee is just

1558
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 2: the start of the break fee and there's more more

1559
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: to come.

1560
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 25: We've heard that that's money set aside for that, but

1561
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 25: we don't know what came dividence.

1562
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 2: So then I've got three hundred million for the break fe,

1563
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: I've got nine hundred million for the fairies, so that

1564
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: takes us to one point two. And then we need

1565
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 2: to pay for the port infrastructure and how much is

1566
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: that going to be?

1567
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 25: That's that's that was the bit that was huge, and

1568
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 25: so that's the problem we have with these furies is

1569
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 25: that they might not work for that infrastructure.

1570
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 7: So that's unknown as well.

1571
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 6: Now well that the labor, like usual on any of

1572
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,839
Speaker 6: the approjects, take their eye off the ball. They don't monitor,

1573
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 6: they'd mess upon all the way through the country. The

1574
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 6: country couldn't afford it, and initials bring some discipline, plage.

1575
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 2: I reckon, plan trouble. I reckon, you might be in

1576
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 2: trouble on this one because I don't know that the

1577
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 2: smartest this didn't plan out the smartest way. I mean,

1578
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: did we consider taking the ferraris and then selling them

1579
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 2: to somebody else who wants ferraris and then using that

1580
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 2: money to buy the corollas and having money left over.

1581
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 6: Look, we would that the best decisions we made for

1582
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 6: us as a country in terms of what we is

1583
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 6: fiscally responsible and we can afford and we'll deliver an

1584
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 6: outstanding service that will be appropriate for us as a country.

1585
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 6: We're five and a half million people, and as much

1586
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 6: as we'd like to build out massively expensive infrastructure like

1587
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 6: countries with much bigger populations.

1588
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 3: Do we have to write size it for us?

1589
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 2: All right, Jenny, listen, have you talked to Peeny about

1590
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 2: being sent down to the Privileges Committee.

1591
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 7: I have not talked to him yet.

1592
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: No.

1593
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 2: Does he look happy. I think he'll probably be happy,

1594
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: won't he?

1595
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 3: Look?

1596
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 25: I didn't think you look very happy. But you'd have

1597
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 25: to ask him how he felt about that.

1598
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: Because I thought I felt sorry for him because it

1599
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 2: looked like the Malori party. We're going to get in

1600
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: trouble for the hacker, but not him, and I know

1601
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 2: he's desperate to be part of that gang.

1602
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 25: Well, I do know that when things are before the

1603
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 25: Privileges Committee, you have to be very careful because the

1604
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 25: speaker gets very grumpy with MPs who talk about both issues.

1605
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 25: So I'd have to be very good and say, let's

1606
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 25: wait and see what the privilege is.

1607
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 2: So the correct line is not happy about being in

1608
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 2: front of the Privileges Committee. All right, Hey, guys, thank

1609
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: you very much, Thank you really appreciated his politics. Whensday

1610
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 2: might mittill Ndini and is a eight twenty one.

1611
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: Heather do for the Llen on the My Hosking Breakfast

1612
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: with Alvida Retirement Communities News togsa'd be Heather.

1613
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 2: There's no point in having ferraris if they don't fit

1614
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: in the garage, which is a fair point to make.

1615
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 2: Twenty four past eight. Now on the polling, right, So

1616
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: if you were talked to yesterday about the polling with

1617
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: the Treaty Principles Bill and what the Curier polling had

1618
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: come through, and then if you watched One News last

1619
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: night you would have seen that the One News polling

1620
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 2: was completely different, right because Curier yesterday said that there

1621
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 2: was enormous support basically for the fundamental ideas behind the

1622
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 2: Treaty Principles Bill, for changing it from the status quo

1623
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: so that when whoever gets to decide what happens with

1624
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: the Treaty Principles, it shouldn't be the White Punggy tribunal

1625
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: or judges. That should be Parliament, all the people. And

1626
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: sixty two percent support for basically maintaining universal rights like

1627
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 2: one person, one vote and making that more important than

1628
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: Treaty rights so if you looked at the Curier polling,

1629
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 2: you were like, oh, David Seymour's bill is incredibly popular.

1630
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: But then One News last night found the complete opposite.

1631
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,759
Speaker 2: They found only twenty three percent supported the bill, thirty

1632
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: six percent were opposed to it, and thirty nine percent

1633
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,799
Speaker 2: a really big group didn't know enough about the bill. Again,

1634
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: like the crime question, One News asks crappy questions, it's

1635
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: about the question that they're asking. I mean, if somebody

1636
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: said you came up to you and was like, do

1637
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 2: you support the bill? You would have to know a

1638
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: fair amount about the bill to know whether you supported

1639
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 2: or on it, and I think most people don't, however,

1640
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 2: and which is why I think they're getting a different

1641
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 2: result there.

1642
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 3: Right.

1643
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:30,759
Speaker 2: However, what this says to you is that David Seymour

1644
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 2: has got to sell the ideas in the bill. He's

1645
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 2: got to explain it to people. Otherwise the same outcome

1646
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: is going to happen as what happened in the One

1647
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: News poll, where he's going to struggle to find support

1648
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 2: because people don't know what he's talking about. Jebbing Ardi

1649
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 2: were packer, Okay, this is said. We had a little

1650
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: bit of her defending her idea with a capital gains tax.

1651
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 2: So this is her selling the idea that it would

1652
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: bring in maybe up to forty billion dollars every year.

1653
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 26: These are figures that we've had come to ours three experts,

1654
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 26: but at least a minimum.

1655
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 14: So yeah, two hundred billion, Yeah, how does that work?

1656
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 2: I guess.

1657
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 26: I guess the whole way that has been worked out

1658
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 26: is on the fact that if we had I think

1659
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 26: a lot of the details in our text policy as well.

1660
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 26: But if we're to sit there and look at a

1661
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 26: few things, we've got that with the Kepler gains texts

1662
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 26: and Kepler gains text from our perspective, was also not

1663
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 26: just looking at from those sorry to let me get

1664
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 26: my head about the policy, not just looking at it

1665
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 26: from those who are selling houses, but those that actually

1666
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 26: own more than one house.

1667
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1668
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 2: And then when they were like, but you'd know, we'd

1669
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 2: have to sell all the houses and text everything in

1670
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 2: the house, this is how she responded.

1671
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 26: I think again, if we were to look across the

1672
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 26: regional figures, and I feel really sorry, I feel slightly

1673
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 26: undressing at the moment because the figures that would come

1674
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 26: out of being probably bunked for the whole and other things.

1675
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 26: But the reality is is there's some really strong figures now,

1676
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 26: whether that our figures or the someone else the figures

1677
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 26: that should be part of our future.

1678
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 2: I just want to point out she's undressed on her

1679
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: policy for which she is the code, like she's the

1680
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 2: co leader of the party, not some random back then,

1681
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: just pointing that out. Steve Price with Us shortly new

1682
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 2: still zippy.

1683
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: Demanding the answers from the decision makers. Can then Duplessy

1684
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: Allen on the mic asking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities,

1685
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: Life your Way, news dogs head b Man.

1686
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,839
Speaker 2: That stuff at Auckland International Airport appears still be ongoing.

1687
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,839
Speaker 2: They still seem to be having an external outage problem

1688
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 2: that's caused everything to crash and stuff. But here's the

1689
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: worst bad about it. Apparently it's been going on since

1690
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: three am, so that we're into we're basically getting to

1691
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: the six hour mark for some people presumably who are

1692
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 2: still in those cues. So I thought some prayers to them.

1693
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 2: Are twenty three away from nine.

1694
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

1695
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,839
Speaker 1: for New Zealand business got Steve Price.

1696
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 12: With Us out of Ozzie hast Hey, good morning.

1697
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: Oh that visit to the synagogue did not go well

1698
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: for elbow, did it.

1699
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,839
Speaker 12: No, anyone who saw the pictures of him being hickeled

1700
01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 12: and hassled outside the Assaid Israel synagogue wouldn't have gone well.

1701
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 12: So since I spoke to you on Monday, of course,

1702
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 12: it's been revealed that Anthony Alberniz, he was in perfect weekend,

1703
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 12: ended up playing tennis for two hours at a place

1704
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 12: called Cotterslow Beach on Sunday, when he could have been

1705
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,560
Speaker 12: on the other side of the country visiting the synagogue.

1706
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 12: He finally decided to go there yesterday. I met with

1707
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 12: the local is the local Jewish leaders of that synagogue,

1708
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 12: and when he came out, there was a pressing crowd

1709
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 12: of a mixture of congregants and media, I would suggest,

1710
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 12: and he refused to take any questions. He made a

1711
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 12: brief statement. He was alongside the local member of parliament,

1712
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 12: a guy called Josh Burns, who was himself Jewish, and

1713
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 12: then he started getting heck with. One person screamed out,

1714
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 12: nice day for tennis. Another said, what have you done

1715
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 12: for us? Where have you been while you're not been here?

1716
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 12: I've rarely seen I'm trying to remember this morning. The

1717
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 12: last time I would have seen Australian promise treated like that.

1718
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 12: I really am struggling to remember. I don't have to

1719
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 12: almost go all the way back to Bob Hall during

1720
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 12: a pilot's strike. But it was a really bad look

1721
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 12: for Anthony Albanesi. He was pushed into his armor plate

1722
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 12: at BMW and rushed away from the scene. Yes, he

1723
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 12: made announcements about rebuilding the synagogue and all the things

1724
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 12: that people wanted to hear, but I don't know that

1725
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 12: he'd be all happy about what happened there yesterday.

1726
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 2: No, and then the stuff continues, isn't it, Because you've

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Speaker 2: got another attack in Sydney.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, this is overnight, same area of Sydney, to the

1729
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 12: eastern suburbs where the large Jewish population of Sydney years

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01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 12: Police confirmed just a few moments ago that a number

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01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 12: of cars and buildings were damaged indulged with anti Semitic

1732
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 12: slogans in Malara, a suburban inner east of Sydney. It

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01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 12: happened about one o'clock this morning. Emergency services responded there

1734
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 12: far and rescue had to put out a fire. There

1735
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 12: was a car daubed with anti Semitic slogans. Another two

1736
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 12: buildings on a street called Magny Street. The second attack

1737
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 12: there in less than four weeks. Two men have been

1738
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 12: arrested following that attack a couple of weeks back. But

1739
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,879
Speaker 12: this is just awful stuff included slogans like if Israel

1740
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 12: with Israel spelt wrongly, the people are moronic.

1741
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 20: But it just goes to show that this.

1742
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 12: Anti Semitic mood in this country is at a very

1743
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 12: dangerous level and people are really worried about it.

1744
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 2: Hey listen LoveFest letter by what Peter Duttan is doing

1745
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 2: with the flag. So he says he's only going to

1746
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 2: have one Australian flag and is not going to stand

1747
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 2: beside indigenous flags at pres events if he's elected Prime minister,

1748
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 2: is this going to work for him?

1749
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 20: If?

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01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 12: In a short answer, I think it probably will. When

1751
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:49,520
Speaker 12: Anthony Albanezi was elected in twenty twenty two, he immediately

1752
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 12: chose every time he had made it a public appearance

1753
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 12: that the Australian flag would be in the middle. You

1754
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 12: would have the indigenous flag on the left hand side

1755
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 12: if you're facing out as the PM would be, and

1756
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 12: the Torres Strait Islander flag on the right. Peter Duttner

1757
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,839
Speaker 12: said one flag, one country. We should all be united.

1758
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 1: Now.

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01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 12: Is this a political move by Peter Dutton? Of course

1760
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 12: it is, and it comes at a time when obviously

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01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 12: we're questioning our togetherness as a nation with all of

1762
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 12: this anti Semitic carry on, and so yes, I think

1763
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 12: it will work for him, and it comes in advance

1764
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 12: and you know the ongoing debate about twenty sixth of

1765
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 12: January Australia Day when we should celebrate that. So Peter

1766
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 12: Dutton has chosen to do this. I mean what he's

1767
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 12: doing I think really cleverly. Is he setting himself apart

1768
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 12: from labor He's going to go We will hear in

1769
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 12: the next two days costings on his nuclear power plant

1770
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 12: idea of having nuclear power in Australia one flag. He

1771
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 12: doesn't want to be seen as labor light. He wants

1772
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 12: to be seen as a true conservative. That's what he's

1773
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 12: going to do. He's putting his political future on the line.

1774
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 12: Is it a gamb Yes, it is. Will at work maybe,

1775
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 12: and the Poles say it probably is.

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01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 2: Steve, you off on holiday from next week.

1777
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 12: Is that okay with you?

1778
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 21: Heather?

1779
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 16: Yeah?

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01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: Mate, I'll tell you what I feel like. I could

1781
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 2: you have well deserved it, we all, haven't it. Are

1782
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 2: you doing anything.

1783
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 12: Interesting coming to New Zealand for ten days in your

1784
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 12: beautiful country driving around in a very expensive rental car?

1785
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1786
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 2: And are you doing North or South?

1787
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 3: North?

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01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 12: No, South's for people who don't know New Zealand.

1789
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 2: Well you reckon North is where there it's at.

1790
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 3: Oh I love it.

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01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 12: I met once, said Christmas in a beautiful place called

1792
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 12: Ruffle in the north of the North Island. Fantastic post,

1793
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 12: good stuff.

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01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 2: Will listen. I hope you have a wonderful time and

1795
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 2: it's been lovely to chat to you. Go well and

1796
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 2: happy holidays to you. That's Steve Price out of Australia.

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01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 2: North is where it's at, isn't it. You want what

1798
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 2: you want to do? I reckon is you want to

1799
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 2: go north in the summer and you want to go

1800
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 2: south in the winter, and if you can, If that's

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01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 2: basically I would say, just treat it exactly like that.

1802
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 2: Just it's just a it's a seasonal split and then

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01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 2: you've got it absolutely sorted. You don't want to faff

1804
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 2: around with the skifields up north if you can have

1805
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 2: the ski fields down south, but you'rel sort don't want

1806
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: to faf around with half harder temperatures down south when

1807
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: you can have the brilliance of the warmth up north.

1808
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 3: So there you go.

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01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 2: Listen on the councils, man, I don't even know how

1810
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 2: to help councils anymore. They are the pits and they

1811
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 2: just you can tell them time and time again, don't

1812
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 2: do that, don't do that thing, don't do that, and

1813
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 2: they go, you know what, I'm going to do that thing,

1814
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 2: and todung It is doing that thing. Todung. Yesterday totung

1815
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,560
Speaker 2: Is City Council voted to a point unelected EWEI representatives

1816
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 2: to council committees. Now what this means is that these

1817
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 2: people completely unelected, full voting rights on the council committees,

1818
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: rate payer funded salaries. This is basically the mirror of

1819
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 2: what just happened at the Hastings District Council earlier this

1820
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 2: year where they put the unelected youth councilors on. Do

1821
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: you remember that it's got a bunch of youth and

1822
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: they were like, you haven't been elected, become and come

1823
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 2: sit here, have some money, make some decisions for us.

1824
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 2: Now there's a democracy aspect to this, obviously, where people

1825
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 2: are unelected, So what the hell are they doing making

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01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 2: decisions for us? We didn't ask for them to be there.

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01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: But also the money toad hunger has just increased rates

1828
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,759
Speaker 2: by thirteen percent on average, it's somewhere sitting like about

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01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 2: sixteen percent, so it's a reasonable amount. That's a lot historically,

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01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: And so what they're doing is they go, yeah, it's

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01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 2: hard for the rate pays. We just put up the

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01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 2: rates quite a lot. But what we're gonna do is

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01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 2: we're just gonna put some other people around the council

1834
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 2: put up the rates a little bit more because we

1835
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of money. But we're gonna spend

1836
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 2: money on these guys, and rate pays will get nothing

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01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: out of it. You don't get a new road, you

1838
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: don't get a new bin, you don't get I don't know,

1839
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 2: a new skate park or have they got lots yep.

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01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,560
Speaker 2: And we would notice that as all clanders because we

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01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: don't have any bins. So that's a point of difference

1842
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 2: for them. But they're not gonna get anything new. They're

1843
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 2: just gonna get a bunch of people sitting around a

1844
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 2: table creating hot air, costing them money. You can't help

1845
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 2: if this is the kind of stupid stuff councils are doing,

1846
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: you can't help but just give up, give up on them.

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Speaker 1: Quarter two, The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

1848
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,640
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1849
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Speaker 2: Hither they need to appoint a commissioner in todunger a CEE.

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01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,759
Speaker 2: They had the commit is there. Everything was running fine.

1851
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 2: Colin makes a point that everything was running fine. Minute

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01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 2: the commissioners get out of the door. Mahi's like, we

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01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 2: need an anti fluorine tap outside the city boundaries. We

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01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: need lots of unelected officials. We need one hundred and

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01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 2: fifty one hundred and fifty million dollar museum. I don't

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01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 2: actually know if that was more. That may have been

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01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 2: the commissioners themselves. Hey, I've got some good news on

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01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 2: the gas.

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01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 3: Now.

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01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:21,600
Speaker 2: We don't get a lot of good news on the

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01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 2: gas right because we all know gas is running out

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01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 2: in this country and that's that's a diabolical situation for us.

1863
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 2: Good news on the gas is we've got this outfit

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01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 2: called Graymouth Petroleum. It's one of the gas companies that's

1865
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: still here in the business in New Zealand doing the

1866
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 2: extraction and stuff. They reckon they've got they've got it.

1867
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 2: They've just drilled a well near Stratford, sputted At about

1868
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 2: three months ago, and they reckon. They have got what

1869
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,560
Speaker 2: they call a material amount of gas coming out of

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01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: the well. Now it's floating. I don't expect you to

1871
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 2: know what this means, so I'm gonna explain it to you.

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01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 2: It's flowing at rates exceeding seven terridual terridules of gas

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01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: a day. Seven terrriduls. Now seven terror duels of gas

1874
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 2: works out if you work it out of the year

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01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 2: at two point five petta duels, and we are short

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01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 2: ten petta duels. So normally in a year we would

1877
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 2: use about one hundred and fifty petta duels of gas,

1878
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 2: and normally we would have had enough of that stuff.

1879
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 2: But you know, everything's starting to put out, and so

1880
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 2: we've only started getting about one hundred and forty petta jewels,

1881
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: so we need ten petaules. Now, if this gas keeps

1882
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 2: flowing at the level that it's flowing at the moment,

1883
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 2: apparently we will get about a quarter of that two

1884
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 2: point five. Now, that's not going to solve all of

1885
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 2: our problems, right, But my biggest can't be choosers is

1886
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 2: the situation we find ourselves in at the minute with

1887
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 2: the gas. So we will take this. We will take

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01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 2: the two point two.

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01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 14: Any petajuels are welcome, petted jewel.

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01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 2: That's exactly right, because you're gonna turn on your gas

1891
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 2: hob at home to cook your food and you can

1892
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: be to look at all those peta duels coming out

1893
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 2: of there. I need this to be happening, so good

1894
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 2: on them. And also kind of maybe is a sign

1895
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 2: that we haven't found all of the gas that's out there,

1896
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 2: which is the opposite of what labour keeps telling us

1897
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 2: labors like, don't worry, guys, we haven't found any gas

1898
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 2: in ages. Well, we just found some at Stratford, So

1899
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 2: there's something. Also. I don't know how you get to

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01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 2: feel about this, but you know how, we're getting rid

1901
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 2: of all the public servants and stuff to try and

1902
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 2: save some money at the minute. ESR, the Environmental Science

1903
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: and Research Agency, they are getting rid of sixty four roles.

1904
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 2: And when they were firing people and stuff before Christmas

1905
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 2: is never a fun idea. So what they're doing is

1906
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 2: they're giving them some They're sending out documents to them,

1907
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 2: giving them some advice on how to kind of move

1908
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 2: on from this, how to either retire, leave the workforce permanently,

1909
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: get set up to start a new role whatever it is,

1910
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 2: or move to Australia. They're giving them advice on how

1911
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 2: to do that. So they give them a little bit

1912
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: of understanding of visa requirements, cost of living in Australia,

1913
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: the job market, preparing a tailored resume, leveraging job search platforms, networking,

1914
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 2: being able to adapt to a new cultural and environmental landscape.

1915
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 2: Like all of the stuff tells them to think about

1916
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 2: all of these things before they move to Australia. How

1917
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 2: do we feel about that? Because these people are scientists,

1918
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,759
Speaker 2: so presumably we want to keep them in the country.

1919
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 2: But then again, I feel divided on it. Then again,

1920
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 2: if I have the voice of paying their doll or

1921
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 2: they're moving to Australia and having a happier life there

1922
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 2: costs me nothing, maybe that's a better outcome. I don't know. Anyway,

1923
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 2: I feel like, oh, guess who's running ESA as well

1924
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 2: at the moment. Daddy ash Sir Ashley Bloomfield is over there,

1925
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 2: so anyway, it's just a whole can of worms at

1926
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 2: the ESA nine away from.

1927
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: Nine every Ellen on the mic asking Breakfast with the

1928
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: range Rover Villa News talksb.

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01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 2: Here the NZDC announced to find in Tartanuki last week.

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01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 2: Also actually quite right, I didn't, I thank you because

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01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 2: because as a result of that text, I googled it

1932
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 2: and it did happen last week and I didn't see

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01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: it because I had the rona And we can talk

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01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 2: about that some other day. But don't get the rona.

1935
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, they found some more gas in the Tutucky

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01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 2: field in Tartanuki and they reckon it's some significant volumes.

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01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 2: Got share on the program tomorrow, which I'm very excited

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Speaker 2: to tell you about. I have been practicing since I

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Speaker 2: found out, which was yesterday. I've been practicing saying her

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Speaker 2: name properly because I have been saying sr for like

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Speaker 2: all my life and a pair It's not sure. It's

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Speaker 2: share as in share role, which is her name? Or

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Speaker 2: she thought her name was cher Lynne. Didn't she until

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Speaker 2: she was thirty five years old, and then she found

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Speaker 2: out that her mum because her mum was like eighteen

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Speaker 2: years old and stressed out and having a baby and

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Speaker 2: didn't know what she was doing, she put the wrong

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Speaker 2: name on the birth or somebody put the wrong name

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Speaker 2: on the birth certificate. She didn't know for thirty five

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Speaker 2: years her name was something else. Anyway, she's going to

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Speaker 2: be with us. Fascinating because everybody was doing drugs around

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Speaker 2: her and she didn't get into the drugs. I'm always

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Speaker 2: fascinated by people who don't get dragged down by other people.

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Speaker 2: We have a little chat to her about that, I think,

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Speaker 2: amongst many other fascinating things. Five Away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now more Chemist House, great savings every day and.

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Speaker 2: Independent UK MP has created a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: buzz online. This is Ekbal Muhammad, who's the MP for

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Speaker 2: Dewsbury and Batley, and he was making a speech against

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Speaker 2: the law that wants to ban something. The law wants

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Speaker 2: to ban first cousins being able to be married to

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Speaker 2: each other. Muhammad didn't like it.

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Speaker 27: The reason the practice is so common is our ordinary

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Speaker 27: people see family in to marriage overall as something that

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Speaker 27: is very positive, something that helps build family bonds and

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Speaker 27: helps put families on a more secure financial foothold.

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Speaker 2: So he likes the idea, and so he thinks instead

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Speaker 2: of banning first cousins from marrying each other, this is

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Speaker 2: what he thinks the UK should be doing.

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Speaker 27: Instead of stigmatizing those who are in cousin marriages or

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Speaker 27: those inclined to be, a much more positive approach would

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Speaker 27: be to facilitate advanced genetic test screening for prospective married couples,

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Speaker 27: as is the case in all Arab countries in the

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Speaker 27: Persian golf.

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Speaker 2: So the idea there being that if you want to

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Speaker 2: marry your first cousin, you do a little DNA screen

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Speaker 2: and they go, yep, you're good to marry each other

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Speaker 2: bybe I mean, let's be honest, by the time you're

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Speaker 2: getting around to marrying your first cousin, you've been getting

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Speaker 2: freaky with each other for a while, haven't you. So

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Speaker 2: that's a bit weird. Did you know, though, did you

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Speaker 2: know it's not illegal to marry your first cousin in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand legal Lots of people think that.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I always just thought that was one of those

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Speaker 4: things that happened, like, you know, if you had a

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Speaker 4: tender date and you know, you suddenly had all these

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Speaker 4: amazing common interests, you know, with somebody, and then eventually,

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Speaker 4: in a sitcom kind of way, you find out that

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Speaker 4: you've actually been dating your cousin.

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Speaker 3: And what is this?

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Speaker 2: Is this happening in real life or in your dream?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: No, no, I just feel like it's happened. It's a sitcom,

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Speaker 4: you know, sort of. It's like a story that you

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Speaker 4: have a storyline that it would happen. You know, that

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Speaker 4: they were adopted out at birth or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Is this when the redundancies inevitably strike this show at

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Speaker 2: some stage and you lose your job. This is your

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Speaker 2: documentary idea or like you'll Netflix got.

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Speaker 14: Lots of ideas, have you, Okay, I'd not always good

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Speaker 14: as that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd watch it, and I think a cabal would

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Speaker 2: probably watch it as well. Listen, don't be taking don't

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Speaker 2: be taking this news you just got about marrying your

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Speaker 2: first cousin and it being allowed in New Zealand. Don't

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Speaker 2: is that doing things with this information? Just forget I

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Speaker 2: ever said, throw it out of your head and carry

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Speaker 2: on with your day. Set tomorrow.

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