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Speaker 2: Hello you, Great New Zealand, and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show Podcast number one, nine nine Friday, the

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Speaker 2: fifth of September twenty twenty five. One of the best

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Speaker 2: shows have ever done. Sir Michael Jones joins us later on.

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Speaker 2: We've got a guy going for his hundredth cap and

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks, and I'm not talking about Artie Severe.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about a guy that's a team to a

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Speaker 2: one hundred game, Great New Zealander. Actually quite hard to do, yeah,

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Speaker 2: very hard to do. It was hard to it's become

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Speaker 2: an All Black and do it. But yeah, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 2: but it hats off to them. You also got invited

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Speaker 2: to a hunting.

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Speaker 3: Trip mate, Yes right, yeah, yep, I'm going to go.

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Speaker 3: That's all sorted. You got his number, Jamie.

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Speaker 2: Bloody home Killer a red out in the bush.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Get some Lama.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll bring you some Lama sausages.

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Speaker 3: Very very good Afternoons. You welcome into the show on

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Speaker 3: a beautiful Friday afternoon. Always feel pretty good on a Friday.

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Speaker 3: Hope you're doing well. Just before we get into what's

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Speaker 3: Right on to today's show. After three o'clock New Zealander

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Speaker 3: of the Week. Because it is a Friday, nominations are

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Speaker 3: still open.

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Speaker 5: Matt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've just got a bunch of nominations for Scribe

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Speaker 2: coming in there because he's he's hanging up his microphone.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, if you've got a suggestion for New Center

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Speaker 2: of the Week, seen it through A nine nine two

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Speaker 2: and it'll be anunced just after three o'clock as always.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, always look forward to that. And after three o'clock

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Speaker 3: the Massurf Sporting Fixture of the weekend of course, all

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Speaker 3: Blacks versus South Africa, Eden Park Saturday night, hugely anticipated,

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Speaker 3: lots of nerves and we're already getting already getting the

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Speaker 3: text coming in thick and fast from a lot of supporters.

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Speaker 2: But who's going to win? One hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: eighty nine nine two is the text a number? And

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Speaker 2: I want to hear from some South Africans, and we

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Speaker 2: are hearing from South African fans coming through and they're

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Speaker 2: very very confident ladies and gentlemen. They dangerously so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be good after three o'clock. After

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Speaker 3: two o'clock has red meat prices sore. People are looking

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Speaker 2: just found out, as I was saying before to you, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: that home kill means I just thought it meant that

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Speaker 2: someone bought an animal around your house that killed them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, both thought.

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Speaker 2: But no, this butcher is involved and then the stuff

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Speaker 3: Yeap, looking forward to that after two o'clock. But right now,

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Speaker 3: let's have a chat about the freight industry. So truck drivers,

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Speaker 2: both the what's the booger sugar way?

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Speaker 2: To quote the concretor that we talked that we were

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Speaker 3: The old trucker's choice.

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Speaker 2: But also I mean you want your parcel on time,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely so can you hear from you on oh eight

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Speaker 3: the pressure that has been put on you to deliver

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Speaker 3: a chat? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 3: It is ten past one, back very shortly. You're listening

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Speaker 3: to Matt and Tyler the.

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Speaker 3: That'd be very good afternoon to you. We're talking about

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Speaker 3: union is calling for what they do. Over in Australia,

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Speaker 3: it's called the Safe Rates International Labor Campaign, It effectively

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Speaker 3: seeks to make employers, clients, and customers responsible for the

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Speaker 3: financial pressures causing truck drivers to be pulled on with work.

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Speaker 3: If you're in the industry, is that's something you'd get

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Speaker 3: behind And it ticks came through curiers as well. Man,

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Speaker 3: you see those curiers, I feel I feel very sorry

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Speaker 3: are breaking a lot of laws, no doubt about it,

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Speaker 3: screaming through winds of seactions, getting in front of people.

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Speaker 2: Well as what are the laws on couriers and just

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Speaker 3: They don't care. They got packages to move, so good point.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and man, what about you know the delivering

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Speaker 2: I see them all over the shop. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: And it's stressful. You're out in traffic, You're trying to

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Speaker 2: get it done. But is it a good job? And

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Speaker 2: you know, into city, how's that going for you as

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Speaker 2: a truck driver, Is it's still a good job? Just

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Speaker 2: driving around delivering things. How are the stress levels and

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Speaker 2: is there anyone out there that's running families into different towns,

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Speaker 2: because that's what truck has used to do.

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Speaker 3: And would love to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighties and number to

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Speaker 3: call nineteen nine two is a text number. Dylan, how are.

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Speaker 8: You, hey, mate? You know Matt he goes.

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Speaker 3: So you're a current truckee, are you, Dylan?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I've really been feeling the

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Speaker 8: streets from the customers. But a few years ago, I

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Speaker 8: used to work for a company. It's not going to

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Speaker 8: say which one, but there was no one else to

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Speaker 8: cover a few shifts, sodad that work seventeen hours one

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Speaker 8: my way out to Beachlands and you had to, you know,

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Speaker 8: not do that again because I nearly well ran somebody

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Speaker 8: off the road going to sleep. But yeah, at the

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Speaker 8: end of my delivery, I ended up just sleeping for

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Speaker 8: a couple of hours just in the back of the truck.

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Speaker 2: many hours are you legally allowed to drive in a day? Dylan?

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Speaker 3: That's a long day.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I was well well over the limit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And so if you've been asked to do those

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Speaker 4: Asked you to do it?

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Speaker 2: With you? You are?

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Speaker 8: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Right? And so and do you feel at that company

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Speaker 2: do you feel like you could push back and say,

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Speaker 2: hang on mate, I've just done nineteen hours. You can't

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, exactly, So then you can't well I didn't

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Speaker 8: Jelly could push back what you guys said this earlier on.

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Speaker 8: It's a very competitive field and then that remains today. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: so I end up just leaving the company.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Well that sort of makes sense if you

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Speaker 2: can do it. What a truckies do around this issue?

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Speaker 2: I mean historically you hear a lot about truck of

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Speaker 8: I mean that does help, but one of the major

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Speaker 8: well they do talk about the managing fatigue. When you

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Speaker 8: your five, the One of the major ways is just

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Speaker 8: have your window down. That generally keeps you away for

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Speaker 8: a little bit. Generally when you're feeling that tire, just

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Speaker 8: just pull over and have some rest. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 8: absolutely pull over somewhere.

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Speaker 3: So in a thirty hours shift, how many breaks would

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Speaker 3: ability to have a wee power nap if you.

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Speaker 8: Need one, Well, you're allowed to work fourteen, but that

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Speaker 8: includes your two half hour breaks and after the well

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Speaker 2: Is that monitored because I could say that, you know,

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Speaker 8: If you're slowly dozing off, Yeah, going to vigorously shake

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Speaker 2: Right yeah. And as as far as staying, you know,

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Speaker 8: Do you the one I'm working for now? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it seems good.

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Speaker 3: So would you be behind what the union is calling

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Speaker 8: That would be great. To be honest with you, I

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Speaker 2: Is driving still a good job? Dylan?

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Speaker 8: The money isn't what it used to be, Yeah, especially

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Speaker 8: Touch a little bit on home kill if you guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if you can cover off two topics for us,

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Speaker 8: Yes, I got a hunting say I shoot a deer

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Speaker 8: be honest. If you want salama, you can sausages, you can, yeah, everything,

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Speaker 8: bring them the carcass and everything.

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Speaker 2: But how much are we talking in volume? We're talking

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Speaker 8: Now, you pay him for the work and then he

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Speaker 2: Hey, when you take down and red deer, do you

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Speaker 8: That's all you're shooting the stag. But but yeah, there's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, there used to be a big velvet trade

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, oh well, hey, thank you for addressing two

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Speaker 3: We really appreciate it, good man.

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Speaker 2: You go well, yes, you stay safe out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, over everything, Dylan. But yes, so we getting a

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Speaker 2: Antler's up, it's up you go Southland?

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Speaker 3: they should be doing and try and get around the

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Speaker 3: rules just to make sure they have enough money at

440
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Speaker 3: the end of each week.

441
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take this. Anonymous truck driver here was due

442
00:20:39,973 --> 00:20:42,373
Speaker 2: a break five minutes ago, but pushing on to the

443
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Speaker 2: port otherwise I miss freight cutoff time. The struggle is real, boys.

444
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

445
00:20:49,613 --> 00:20:51,853
Speaker 3: number to call if you're a former truck driver or

446
00:20:51,893 --> 00:20:53,812
Speaker 3: a current truck driver. Love to hear from you. What

447
00:20:53,813 --> 00:20:55,573
Speaker 3: are the pressures like at the moment.

448
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Speaker 2: This text will grab Parcel drivers aren't truck drivers. Couriers

449
00:21:02,133 --> 00:21:04,813
Speaker 2: drive toy trucks. They only make ten percent of them.

450
00:21:05,133 --> 00:21:07,293
Speaker 2: I'm sixty four and have been driving for forty five

451
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Speaker 2: years to rest, I take it from Graham.

452
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Speaker 3: That's spoken like a true trucker.

453
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Speaker 2: So is that true? Well, I mean I don't know

454
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Speaker 2: if courier drivers claim to be truck drivers. I mean,

455
00:21:16,613 --> 00:21:18,493
Speaker 2: there's obviously a different thing, but they have their own

456
00:21:18,493 --> 00:21:23,613
Speaker 2: stresses out on the road, and especially gosh in Auckland,

457
00:21:23,973 --> 00:21:26,213
Speaker 2: trying to deal with just the amount of road works

458
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Speaker 2: when you're trying to deliver things. Yeah, I mean, there's

459
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Speaker 2: good luck finding a place to pull over in Auckland

460
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Speaker 2: half the time.

461
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Speaker 3: Exactly. I always get out of their way. If I

462
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Speaker 3: see a courier coming through, I just say let them pass.

463
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Speaker 3: Let them passed. He might have my passer. Actually, if

464
00:21:40,813 --> 00:21:42,853
Speaker 3: you are a curier driver, are you feeling these pressures

465
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Speaker 3: as well. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

466
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Speaker 3: But can you hear from you on oh, eight hundred

467
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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty.

468
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Speaker 2: Afternoon, guys, we're cracking eighteen hours out here in the

469
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Speaker 2: way cattor Kating Way from OCD and Fontira.

470
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Speaker 3: Our big days right. Headlines with scarlet are coming up,

471
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Speaker 3: but we're taking more of your calls. It is twenty

472
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Speaker 3: eight to two.

473
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Speaker 12: US talk sa'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

474
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Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble. Woman is taking immediate

475
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Speaker 12: action to tackle increasing numbers of homeless, including expanding the

476
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Speaker 12: Housing First program, which gives permanent homes to those experiencing

477
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Speaker 12: chronic homelessness, and extra help is on the way for

478
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Speaker 12: more than one hundred thousand primary age students in need

479
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Speaker 12: of learning support in term one. Next year, almost fifteen

480
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Speaker 12: hundred schools will have access to a new staffing entitlement

481
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Speaker 12: through a one hundred and ninety two million dollar budget investment.

482
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Speaker 12: Lise say they're desperate for sightings of missing woman twenty

483
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Speaker 12: five year old te Anihamer beau Pommer, who left all

484
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Speaker 12: her belongings at Auckland Sky City Hotel and disappeared more

485
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Speaker 12: than two weeks ago. The Prime Minister says rumours his

486
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Speaker 12: leadership is in trouble a total rubbish. Former National Party

487
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Speaker 12: strategist Matthew Houghton today claimed Chris Luxen will likely soon

488
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Speaker 12: face a no confidence motion. A reminder for South Island

489
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Speaker 12: road users to take extra care and wild weather today

490
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Speaker 12: Met Service is warning of severe gale force winds in

491
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Speaker 12: the Canterbury high Country and possible strong gusts for travelers

492
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Speaker 12: through the central South Island and fourth Hawkes Bay farm

493
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Speaker 12: in five months sold to overseas buyers for forestry. Read

494
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495
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Speaker 12: and Tyler Adams.

496
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Scarlett. We are talking about the

497
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Speaker 3: freight industry and the courier industry. Is it just too

498
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Speaker 3: hard now? If you're in that game or you've recently

499
00:23:29,773 --> 00:23:31,813
Speaker 3: left as a driver, love to hear from you. The

500
00:23:31,853 --> 00:23:34,453
Speaker 3: pay is stagnant, the preachers are more than ever and

501
00:23:34,693 --> 00:23:36,853
Speaker 3: according to the Union, a lot more drivers are having

502
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Speaker 3: to break the rules to deliver on time. So is

503
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Speaker 3: it a good career? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

504
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Speaker 3: is the number to call?

505
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Speaker 2: And speaking of breaking the rules and breaking the law.

506
00:23:47,253 --> 00:23:51,093
Speaker 2: We had a text of four who was saying he

507
00:23:51,173 --> 00:23:55,093
Speaker 2: was using the pipe to get through the driving. So

508
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Speaker 2: I've just I reckon, mate, If you're still listening, go

509
00:23:56,973 --> 00:23:59,853
Speaker 2: to healthifire dot in Z. There's some good advice there

510
00:23:59,893 --> 00:24:01,453
Speaker 2: for getting getting off that myth. You're never going to

511
00:24:01,453 --> 00:24:05,253
Speaker 2: make it to the Goldie yeah. Yeah, So the advices

512
00:24:05,573 --> 00:24:09,093
Speaker 2: reach out to tell your partner, close friends, or family

513
00:24:09,133 --> 00:24:10,853
Speaker 2: members that you want to stop using myth so they

514
00:24:10,853 --> 00:24:13,493
Speaker 2: can support you to make the change. Contact one of

515
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Speaker 2: the specialized services that know about how to stop using

516
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Speaker 2: myth and FETA means, such as free Myth Help counseling services.

517
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Speaker 2: You can call eight hundred Myth Help which is eight

518
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Speaker 2: hundred six three eight four four three, or the Alcohol

519
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Speaker 2: Drug Helpline eight hundred and seven eight seven seven ninety seven.

520
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good advice. I mean, it is an absolute life

521
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Speaker 3: ruin of that stuff. Jimmy, how are you, mate?

522
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Good, good, thank you. That's a pretty shocking statistically.

523
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Speaker 4: You just said then that people you know spoken that

524
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Speaker 4: stuff to to work, if you know, I mean.

525
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Speaker 2: Because I'd imagine the most reputable companies they'd be drug test,

526
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Speaker 2: wouldn't they. I could be wrong in it, of.

527
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Speaker 4: Course, yeah, of course, but I did. I'm sorry. I

528
00:25:01,653 --> 00:25:04,813
Speaker 4: have to tell you about my story only briefly, but

529
00:25:05,173 --> 00:25:07,693
Speaker 4: I was only I was in the industry about seven

530
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Speaker 4: years ago, so I don't know. I didn't see any

531
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Speaker 4: of that going on, you know, like people having to

532
00:25:15,453 --> 00:25:20,893
Speaker 4: use drugs to get through the day. But I have

533
00:25:21,093 --> 00:25:24,133
Speaker 4: heard about and it must be getting very quite serious,

534
00:25:24,253 --> 00:25:30,292
Speaker 4: because you know, it was a very stressful industry. I

535
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Speaker 4: joined it. I went for a trucking firm to get

536
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Speaker 4: my licenses, and I because I love driving, I really

537
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Speaker 4: love it. And then when I got into the logistics

538
00:25:41,293 --> 00:25:43,693
Speaker 4: sides of it side of it, or for a big company,

539
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Speaker 4: the stress was very quite hard. You didn't really know

540
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Speaker 4: what you're in for every day, and at the end

541
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Speaker 4: of the day, you didn't know how long it will

542
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Speaker 4: take for you to get these trucks loaded and on

543
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Speaker 4: the on the road. So sometimes I was in the

544
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Speaker 4: yard about nine nine thirty at night and i'd started

545
00:26:07,933 --> 00:26:13,573
Speaker 4: seven I found it very very hard to settle down

546
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Speaker 4: when I got home because I was always stressing about

547
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Speaker 4: the next job the next day, because you didn't know

548
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Speaker 4: what to expect, and they paid on you, and I couldn't,

549
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Speaker 4: so I went to I had to drink alcohol is

550
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Speaker 4: the only thing that would make me go to sleep.

551
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Speaker 4: Doctors wouldn't give me a pill or anything. So I

552
00:26:37,093 --> 00:26:43,173
Speaker 4: was actually stressing every day. I lost my job because

553
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Speaker 4: of it, because of the stress, and I asked for help,

554
00:26:48,973 --> 00:26:56,413
Speaker 4: very big company, millions and billions of dollars, and they

555
00:26:56,413 --> 00:26:59,293
Speaker 4: didn't really want to know me. I worked for them

556
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Speaker 4: for five years. The first three years I was the

557
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Speaker 4: number one employer, and at the end of the day

558
00:27:08,373 --> 00:27:11,413
Speaker 4: I walked out of nothing because they wouldn't listen to

559
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Speaker 4: what I was trying to say to them about the

560
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Speaker 4: stress and the hours I was working, and it wasn't

561
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Speaker 4: really cool. And I love the job. Even though I

562
00:27:22,053 --> 00:27:24,173
Speaker 4: love the job, I love driving, I really do.

563
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Speaker 2: So what what would you what would you have needed

564
00:27:27,333 --> 00:27:30,453
Speaker 2: to be different so the stress wasn't so bad that

565
00:27:30,493 --> 00:27:33,533
Speaker 2: you got into that state. What were the basic things

566
00:27:33,573 --> 00:27:36,613
Speaker 2: that could have changed for you? Jimmy, Well, first.

567
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Speaker 4: Of all, I believe that okay, you can drive. People

568
00:27:40,173 --> 00:27:42,733
Speaker 4: think you're just driving a truck, and then they go, okay,

569
00:27:42,813 --> 00:27:45,812
Speaker 4: well just driving a truck. He can he can do

570
00:27:45,893 --> 00:27:49,973
Speaker 4: that for twelve, thirteen, fourteen hours a day. Well, no,

571
00:27:50,853 --> 00:27:53,173
Speaker 4: you get out there and do that and see how

572
00:27:53,213 --> 00:27:56,093
Speaker 4: it feels. You know, it's stressful. You've got people all

573
00:27:56,133 --> 00:28:01,093
Speaker 4: around you. That's a and people think, oh, they can

574
00:28:01,133 --> 00:28:02,453
Speaker 4: do that, but no, we can't.

575
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Speaker 2: Jimmy. Just like people like me, if I drive five

576
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Speaker 2: hours to another town or something, I'm shagged for the

577
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Speaker 2: rest of the day. I often said, just for some reason,

578
00:28:12,533 --> 00:28:16,013
Speaker 2: it's incredibly tiring to drive, you know, just you've been sitting.

579
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Speaker 2: You have to be alert the whole time. There's something

580
00:28:18,253 --> 00:28:19,933
Speaker 2: just incredibly tiring about it. Jimmy.

581
00:28:20,653 --> 00:28:25,853
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that okay, you've got their driving, but imagine

582
00:28:25,893 --> 00:28:27,973
Speaker 4: throwing in you have to stop every now and again,

583
00:28:28,053 --> 00:28:31,373
Speaker 4: every hour maybe, and have to open truck, unload. You've

584
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Speaker 4: got to fight a part, You've got to do it safe.

585
00:28:33,853 --> 00:28:37,573
Speaker 4: You've got to unload and give them their stuff, wait

586
00:28:37,613 --> 00:28:40,613
Speaker 4: for them to check it, blah blah blah, takes ages.

587
00:28:40,853 --> 00:28:43,573
Speaker 4: Next minute you're off off again, and then you've got

588
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Speaker 4: to keep doing that for fourteen hours. And and people

589
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Speaker 4: I asked for album didn't get it. Yeah, I mean,

590
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Speaker 4: I just wish. I wish things would change, and I

591
00:28:56,053 --> 00:28:59,293
Speaker 4: really wish they would really listen to truck drivers now,

592
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Speaker 4: because we need.

593
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Speaker 3: Them, absolutely, and we're so sorry that happened to you,

594
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Speaker 3: to you, Jimmy, do you think a part of it

595
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Speaker 3: is you know that preciatre ultimately comes from the customers,

596
00:29:08,453 --> 00:29:12,653
Speaker 3: right and that expectation to have their packages delivered within

597
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Speaker 3: twenty four hours, sometimes even twelve hours.

598
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Speaker 4: Do you think, yeah, it's definitely.

599
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Speaker 3: Do you think customers like you know, me included? And

600
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Speaker 3: I'll probably put myself in that camp. But maybe we

601
00:29:21,813 --> 00:29:24,333
Speaker 3: just have to think of it differently as customers that

602
00:29:24,413 --> 00:29:26,933
Speaker 3: if we're expecting that sort of convenience, either we've got

603
00:29:26,933 --> 00:29:29,253
Speaker 3: to pay more that flows down to you guys as drivers,

604
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Speaker 3: or we reduce our expectations on when we can get

605
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Speaker 3: these things.

606
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Speaker 4: Gil, that's right, I'd like to just reduce your expectations.

607
00:29:37,333 --> 00:29:41,853
Speaker 4: But the great thing about being a good driver and

608
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Speaker 4: a delivery drivers actually what I want to get to

609
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Speaker 4: whatever you have in my truck, I want to get

610
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Speaker 4: it to you. That's what I love. And seeing your

611
00:29:53,573 --> 00:29:57,653
Speaker 4: face you know, when I'm delivering, it makes it just

612
00:29:57,733 --> 00:30:00,533
Speaker 4: makes us then go away. But what I'm trying to

613
00:30:00,573 --> 00:30:03,653
Speaker 4: say is like when there's a holiday, everything backs up,

614
00:30:05,013 --> 00:30:06,253
Speaker 4: Everything just backs up.

615
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Speaker 10: So a normal.

616
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Speaker 4: Monday, if there's a holiday, on a Friday. We've got

617
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Speaker 4: to deliver Friday stuff on the Monday as well as

618
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Speaker 4: Monday stuff. Did understand some years a holiday, everyone's everyone's there,

619
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Speaker 4: and that just puts double more time on us and

620
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Speaker 4: more expectations for us to deliver.

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Speaker 2: And Jimmy, how are you, Jimmy, how are you now?

622
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Speaker 2: Are you going?

623
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Speaker 4: All right?

624
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Speaker 2: Going? Okay? Now, so you said that was sort of

625
00:30:34,493 --> 00:30:36,973
Speaker 2: five years ago you've been at how are you going

626
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five? I build houses now, less stressful, Jimmy.

627
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Speaker 2: And there's is it a bit of a vision?

628
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Speaker 4: Yes, a lot more slower and controlled hours. And I

629
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Speaker 4: know that I get to go home at five o'clock

630
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Speaker 4: and put my feet up with that. Industry is really

631
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Speaker 4: really hard. Hey, don't get me wrong. And there's a

632
00:31:00,133 --> 00:31:03,453
Speaker 4: great industry. We just need to work with it so

633
00:31:03,693 --> 00:31:06,653
Speaker 4: we can manage it and people can enjoy it and

634
00:31:06,653 --> 00:31:09,573
Speaker 4: we can get everything done properly. It's not a slow brain.

635
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Speaker 4: So we'll just see more people and let's let them

636
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Speaker 4: all understand. Yeah, thank you so much, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimmy, it's for you call Jimmy. Yeah, appreciate it.

638
00:31:19,493 --> 00:31:21,733
Speaker 3: So do you agree with Jimmy if you're in the industry.

639
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Speaker 3: As he bang on with some of those pressures he

640
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Speaker 3: was facing, and how you deal with that For Jimmy,

641
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Speaker 3: sadlet was turning Dale cold to d stress. Is they

642
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Speaker 3: are they the sort of pressures you're facing? I one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen eighty.

644
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Speaker 2: The Sex says the maximum work time for a truck

645
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Speaker 2: drivers thirteen hours per twenty four fourteen is illegal. Yeah,

646
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Speaker 2: we're saying that, but there's seems to be a lot

647
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Speaker 2: of truck drivers that are finding ways to get round that.

648
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is sixteen to two. We've got full boards

649
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Speaker 3: at the moment. If you can't get through, keep trying.

650
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Speaker 3: O eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

651
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Speaker 3: to call.

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Speaker 1: Wow your home of afternoon talk mad he than Taylor

653
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Speaker 1: Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk,

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Speaker 1: say'd be.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen to two. We're talking about the pressures in the

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Speaker 3: freight and career industry. So many techs have come through

657
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Speaker 3: on nineteen nine two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on both sides of it, it's called a job. Jimmy,

659
00:32:05,853 --> 00:32:07,853
Speaker 2: I drive twelve hours a day, six days a week,

660
00:32:07,893 --> 00:32:12,453
Speaker 2: have done for twenty eight years. Is Dave, this Texas

661
00:32:12,493 --> 00:32:14,813
Speaker 2: says Gooday, lads. I got into tracking many years ago

662
00:32:14,813 --> 00:32:16,533
Speaker 2: in my twenties. I drove for a large company on

663
00:32:16,573 --> 00:32:18,773
Speaker 2: and off for about seven years. When I first started

664
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Speaker 2: the driver training, said to me, truck driving is not

665
00:32:21,213 --> 00:32:24,133
Speaker 2: a job, It's a lifestyle. He was one hundred percent correct.

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00:32:24,173 --> 00:32:27,653
Speaker 2: That's from Barry thanks to text. Truck driving is not

667
00:32:27,693 --> 00:32:30,093
Speaker 2: like driving a car. Most people don't drive trucks, have

668
00:32:30,213 --> 00:32:32,613
Speaker 2: no idea how much concentration it takes to keep yourself

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Speaker 2: on the road and everyone are safe. Honestly, there's always

670
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Speaker 2: some idiot in a car trying to kill you. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my point I was just trying to say

672
00:32:39,253 --> 00:32:43,213
Speaker 2: to Jimmy was that I get completely shagged just driving

673
00:32:43,533 --> 00:32:47,173
Speaker 2: for five hours in a car with no not his job,

674
00:32:47,613 --> 00:32:49,773
Speaker 2: no pressure on me. Yep, you know. So I'm just

675
00:32:49,813 --> 00:32:53,533
Speaker 2: sympathizing that driving a truck would be so much more intense.

676
00:32:53,853 --> 00:32:54,653
Speaker 3: It is exhausting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob, welcome the show.

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Speaker 13: Yeah hello, Lead's great to be on the show. I

679
00:33:01,733 --> 00:33:04,693
Speaker 13: was in my little truck waiting to pick up a

680
00:33:04,733 --> 00:33:07,773
Speaker 13: couple of trailers off the Sory at that time, and

681
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Speaker 13: I heard the promo about about truck drivers and their life.

682
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Speaker 13: So I've got my B train on now and I'm

683
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Speaker 13: south of Glenham heading for christ.

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Speaker 3: Good Man good Man. So what is it like out

685
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Speaker 3: there at the moment, Rob, what's the pressures that you're facing.

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Speaker 13: Well, I've been doing this for since the early seventies,

687
00:33:31,173 --> 00:33:36,373
Speaker 13: so I've owned a couple of companies and now I

688
00:33:36,533 --> 00:33:39,053
Speaker 13: just drive part time and I work for a few

689
00:33:39,093 --> 00:33:44,253
Speaker 13: different companies, so I see how different managements are. There's

690
00:33:44,253 --> 00:33:47,533
Speaker 13: always pressure and you know your guys look for like

691
00:33:47,653 --> 00:33:53,933
Speaker 13: Jimmy and your texts, they're all completely correct. Everybody wants theirs,

692
00:33:53,933 --> 00:33:56,893
Speaker 13: they want great service and it's always been a race

693
00:33:56,973 --> 00:34:02,053
Speaker 13: to the bottom to get the contracts. And of course

694
00:34:02,093 --> 00:34:06,133
Speaker 13: the drivers get stretched by trying to provide the service

695
00:34:07,493 --> 00:34:11,533
Speaker 13: and their wages so haven't probably gone up as much

696
00:34:11,573 --> 00:34:15,533
Speaker 13: as they shouldn't for the work that we all do,

697
00:34:15,853 --> 00:34:19,093
Speaker 13: because it is a pretty difficult job. I mean, if

698
00:34:19,093 --> 00:34:24,973
Speaker 13: you're you're piloting fifty plus come around our roads with

699
00:34:25,173 --> 00:34:28,773
Speaker 13: the quality of car drivers that we have, even some

700
00:34:28,813 --> 00:34:31,693
Speaker 13: of the truck drivers, you know you need.

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Speaker 14: To be on your game.

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00:34:33,213 --> 00:34:36,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how does that change? Rob? How do truckers

703
00:34:36,733 --> 00:34:39,652
Speaker 3: get that hourly rates up? I mean, there's so many

704
00:34:39,733 --> 00:34:41,333
Speaker 3: cost pressures across the board, isn't there?

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00:34:42,973 --> 00:34:45,373
Speaker 13: Yeah, Look I don't have an answer to that.

706
00:34:45,493 --> 00:34:46,333
Speaker 15: To be fair.

707
00:34:48,173 --> 00:34:53,813
Speaker 13: People drivers, if they're good, they will have recognized skills

708
00:34:54,093 --> 00:35:00,293
Speaker 13: that are transportable so they can move to another, a

709
00:35:00,413 --> 00:35:03,933
Speaker 13: better employer. But to be fair for the companies that

710
00:35:04,053 --> 00:35:06,653
Speaker 13: I work for, and that's sort of little to big

711
00:35:08,453 --> 00:35:14,373
Speaker 13: called up, and I enjoy doing the work. They are

712
00:35:14,413 --> 00:35:21,613
Speaker 13: saty conscious, they do things promptly, and there's no fisher

713
00:35:22,613 --> 00:35:26,373
Speaker 13: for me anyway. To bend the rules. I'm always asked,

714
00:35:26,373 --> 00:35:29,853
Speaker 13: have I taken a lot of break etcenta, et cetera.

715
00:35:30,533 --> 00:35:35,973
Speaker 13: So yes, there will be people, particularly online haul that

716
00:35:36,133 --> 00:35:42,212
Speaker 13: will bend the rules, especially contractors, But for a little

717
00:35:42,253 --> 00:35:46,173
Speaker 13: one man band contractor like myself, I think I'm pretty

718
00:35:46,173 --> 00:35:48,613
Speaker 13: well looked at and that's why I'm enjoy the job.

719
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Speaker 13: But look, I'm not doing its days a week if

720
00:35:52,373 --> 00:35:55,893
Speaker 13: I have done that, but now I don't, And I

721
00:35:55,973 --> 00:35:59,133
Speaker 13: do it because I love driving. I like being behind

722
00:35:59,133 --> 00:36:02,373
Speaker 13: the whell. I'm in a nice flash truck with tach

723
00:36:02,453 --> 00:36:04,573
Speaker 13: screens and good SEO.

724
00:36:05,053 --> 00:36:07,893
Speaker 2: And what kind of truck is it? Rob?

725
00:36:09,053 --> 00:36:15,613
Speaker 3: Oh, the black zone of Kai Quarter has just got us.

726
00:36:15,613 --> 00:36:17,573
Speaker 3: But Rob, you sound like a good trucky, but.

727
00:36:17,653 --> 00:36:20,253
Speaker 2: It's a cool truck. Are your back? Sorry you cut out?

728
00:36:20,253 --> 00:36:24,413
Speaker 2: What kind of truck you're driving, Rob, I'm driving a

729
00:36:24,493 --> 00:36:25,453
Speaker 2: bowlbo oh.

730
00:36:25,373 --> 00:36:27,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, I yeah, solid, reliable.

731
00:36:28,773 --> 00:36:28,973
Speaker 16: Look.

732
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Speaker 13: I've driven everything over there last god knows how many years,

733
00:36:33,013 --> 00:36:39,293
Speaker 13: so even have a keem with with stickers on my surfboards.

734
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Speaker 3: Love it, Rob, thanks very much for giving us a

735
00:36:42,053 --> 00:36:42,613
Speaker 3: buzz when I.

736
00:36:43,133 --> 00:36:45,533
Speaker 2: Had a room covered in Kinworth posters.

737
00:36:46,053 --> 00:36:48,573
Speaker 3: It's good. Look it is eight minutes to two. Beg

738
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Speaker 3: very shortly.

739
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Speaker 1: Mad Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty.

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00:36:55,173 --> 00:36:57,613
Speaker 1: It's mad Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons.

741
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Speaker 6: News dogs, b news dogs.

742
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Speaker 3: There be five to two.

743
00:37:02,013 --> 00:37:04,733
Speaker 2: Hey freaking I had the exact same Kim with truck wallpaper.

744
00:37:04,773 --> 00:37:06,733
Speaker 2: I can still remember the yellow and red and there

745
00:37:06,773 --> 00:37:09,772
Speaker 2: must have been a couple on the too. Oh there. Yeah,

746
00:37:10,333 --> 00:37:11,693
Speaker 2: keem with wallpaper was fantastic.

747
00:37:12,253 --> 00:37:12,693
Speaker 3: I love that.

748
00:37:13,333 --> 00:37:14,853
Speaker 2: Matt. You drive a sex wheeler.

749
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Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've driven heaps of things over the years.

750
00:37:19,573 --> 00:37:23,373
Speaker 17: But I was going to say we're doing parcels and

751
00:37:23,893 --> 00:37:27,692
Speaker 17: food in particular. The pressure is pretty immense, especially if

752
00:37:27,693 --> 00:37:31,133
Speaker 17: you're late, because quite often it's not your fault. The

753
00:37:31,253 --> 00:37:36,652
Speaker 17: connection between freight is delayed being an activity or a

754
00:37:36,693 --> 00:37:39,533
Speaker 17: port or an airport or anything, and it just ruins

755
00:37:39,573 --> 00:37:41,652
Speaker 17: your whole day if you're late, because all the customers

756
00:37:41,693 --> 00:37:44,613
Speaker 17: are grumpy at you and you can't catch up on time.

757
00:37:44,893 --> 00:37:47,973
Speaker 17: And like the guy has said about missing your cut

758
00:37:48,013 --> 00:37:51,173
Speaker 17: off times, if you popped into a supermarket or a

759
00:37:51,213 --> 00:37:55,652
Speaker 17: food stuff or whatever, you might get turned away. Then

760
00:37:56,293 --> 00:37:59,053
Speaker 17: ruins everyone else's day, you know. Yeah, this is part

761
00:37:59,093 --> 00:38:00,893
Speaker 17: of the pressure of it all.

762
00:38:01,093 --> 00:38:04,253
Speaker 8: But just a love that.

763
00:38:04,333 --> 00:38:07,093
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I usually do night shift. Is a guy

764
00:38:07,133 --> 00:38:10,853
Speaker 17: who's naming overnight the ringing all the time. But yeah,

765
00:38:10,933 --> 00:38:13,173
Speaker 17: just sort of. I was thinking about the most pressure

766
00:38:13,253 --> 00:38:16,093
Speaker 17: that I've faced over the youth. Then I'd say food

767
00:38:16,893 --> 00:38:18,333
Speaker 17: doing Mitro stuff.

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00:38:18,013 --> 00:38:21,173
Speaker 2: Oh righters, Yeah.

769
00:38:20,253 --> 00:38:23,613
Speaker 17: From town to town as well. Yeah, yeah, but I

770
00:38:24,053 --> 00:38:25,093
Speaker 17: like it. I'll keep doing it.

771
00:38:25,493 --> 00:38:27,652
Speaker 2: Good on in man, Thanks you for your call.

772
00:38:27,973 --> 00:38:31,453
Speaker 3: You're going on, you go, well, you're one of the

773
00:38:31,493 --> 00:38:32,652
Speaker 3: truckies we need out there.

774
00:38:32,973 --> 00:38:35,733
Speaker 2: The driver is correct about fourteen hours thirteen hours as

775
00:38:35,773 --> 00:38:38,053
Speaker 2: the legal and the extra one hour is traveling to

776
00:38:38,133 --> 00:38:41,413
Speaker 2: and from home, right okay to text his truck drivers

777
00:38:41,573 --> 00:38:43,652
Speaker 2: are the only guys who work eighty hours a week

778
00:38:43,693 --> 00:38:45,973
Speaker 2: and fill out a timesheet saying they've done fifteen.

779
00:38:46,093 --> 00:38:49,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true, great discussion. Thank you everyone who phoned

780
00:38:49,093 --> 00:38:51,413
Speaker 3: and ticks on that one. Coming up after two o'clock,

781
00:38:51,613 --> 00:38:55,333
Speaker 3: let's have a chat about Home Curll Homekoel butchers run

782
00:38:55,373 --> 00:38:57,173
Speaker 3: off their feet at the moment. So if you're in

783
00:38:57,213 --> 00:38:58,893
Speaker 3: the game or you're buying home Curll, O eight one

784
00:38:58,973 --> 00:39:01,252
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

785
00:39:01,453 --> 00:39:03,252
Speaker 3: Nine to nine two is the text number. New Sport

786
00:39:03,293 --> 00:39:04,013
Speaker 3: the weather coming up.

787
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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Taylor

788
00:39:11,013 --> 00:39:13,333
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons us talks.

789
00:39:13,333 --> 00:39:13,613
Speaker 2: It'd be.

790
00:39:16,093 --> 00:39:19,333
Speaker 3: Very very good afternoon to you. It is six past too,

791
00:39:19,413 --> 00:39:22,093
Speaker 3: so Father's Day just two days away?

792
00:39:22,173 --> 00:39:24,133
Speaker 2: Can I just hold up for sickond? Does anyone out

793
00:39:24,133 --> 00:39:26,733
Speaker 2: there remember the TV show b J McKay and my

794
00:39:26,813 --> 00:39:30,573
Speaker 2: best friend Beer. B J McKay and his best friend Beer.

795
00:39:30,973 --> 00:39:32,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't ring a bell for me, but he.

796
00:39:32,773 --> 00:39:38,093
Speaker 2: Drove a big Kinworth a bag, big Kenworth truck. I

797
00:39:38,133 --> 00:39:38,973
Speaker 2: was a big fan of that.

798
00:39:39,133 --> 00:39:41,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been a few ticks coming through on the

799
00:39:41,453 --> 00:39:44,093
Speaker 3: old Kimworth Lot of King with fans out there.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy eight. Kim worth K one hundred. Yeah, beautiful,

801
00:39:48,733 --> 00:39:49,453
Speaker 2: beautiful truck.

802
00:39:49,573 --> 00:39:50,013
Speaker 3: How good?

803
00:39:50,093 --> 00:39:53,253
Speaker 2: And what about stacks stacks with stacks stacks? She was

804
00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:53,853
Speaker 2: she was great.

805
00:39:54,013 --> 00:39:54,333
Speaker 5: Yeah.

806
00:39:54,373 --> 00:39:56,933
Speaker 2: BJ's girlfriend see b J McKay had a beer and

807
00:39:57,053 --> 00:39:58,173
Speaker 2: beer was a monkey.

808
00:39:58,653 --> 00:40:01,973
Speaker 3: Beer was a great TV show. Yeah, yeah, I'm watching.

809
00:40:01,813 --> 00:40:04,933
Speaker 2: Bee J McGain his best friend beer anyway, So I

810
00:40:05,013 --> 00:40:05,293
Speaker 2: love that.

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Speaker 3: Right now, we know Father's Day is two days away,

812
00:40:07,733 --> 00:40:10,293
Speaker 3: It's on Sunday, and a lot of people listening would

813
00:40:10,293 --> 00:40:11,893
Speaker 3: have left it till the last minute. They might not

814
00:40:11,933 --> 00:40:13,453
Speaker 3: have thought about what am I going to get Dad

815
00:40:13,573 --> 00:40:15,853
Speaker 3: or the dad in your life? So Matt does have

816
00:40:15,973 --> 00:40:17,893
Speaker 3: you sort its. We've got a few downloads to his

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Speaker 3: number one best selling audiobook of Life Less Punishing Thirteen

818
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Speaker 3: Ways to love the life You've got to give away

819
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Speaker 3: right now. It is read by Matt himself. Great listen

820
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Speaker 3: in a great book. It's currently available every where you

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Speaker 3: get your audio books, from Apple, Spotify, Google Play, all

822
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Speaker 3: of them. So if you've been a bit tardy, this

823
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Speaker 3: is where we sought you out. So to get into

824
00:40:35,973 --> 00:40:39,813
Speaker 3: the drawer right now, just text Punishing and your full

825
00:40:39,893 --> 00:40:43,093
Speaker 3: name to nine to nine two and Matt will pick

826
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Speaker 3: a few winners. So get it now that's punishing to

827
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Speaker 3: nine two ninety two along with your full name, and

828
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Speaker 3: we'll pick a couple of winners and we'll do it

829
00:40:50,093 --> 00:40:51,173
Speaker 3: again after three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: How good and a lot of people teaching through. Look,

831
00:40:54,133 --> 00:40:56,652
Speaker 2: BJ McKay my favorite television show ever.

832
00:40:56,853 --> 00:40:58,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Friends out there first, okaj.

833
00:40:58,733 --> 00:41:00,493
Speaker 2: I mean, I know we're moving on from Trucks, but

834
00:41:00,773 --> 00:41:02,333
Speaker 2: I'll try and find that theme tune.

835
00:41:02,373 --> 00:41:04,093
Speaker 3: Please do I need to hear it? I need to

836
00:41:04,133 --> 00:41:06,773
Speaker 3: hear it right? This is going to be a good chat. So,

837
00:41:06,973 --> 00:41:09,093
Speaker 3: as we know, red meat price are pretty high at

838
00:41:09,133 --> 00:41:11,933
Speaker 3: the moment, and people are looking to their local butcher

839
00:41:11,973 --> 00:41:14,333
Speaker 3: to get more bang for their buck, buying less or

840
00:41:14,453 --> 00:41:17,493
Speaker 3: hitting out hunting, so cheaper cuts like mints and sausages,

841
00:41:17,533 --> 00:41:19,333
Speaker 3: as we now know, can now cost more than twenty

842
00:41:19,373 --> 00:41:23,293
Speaker 3: bucks a kilogram in the supermarket. But home kill is

843
00:41:23,453 --> 00:41:25,453
Speaker 3: absolutely taking off. This is the guy we're gonna have

844
00:41:25,453 --> 00:41:27,613
Speaker 3: a chat to a little bit later on, Aaron Pohatu.

845
00:41:27,933 --> 00:41:30,013
Speaker 3: But he's a home kill butcher in the Hawk's Bay.

846
00:41:30,173 --> 00:41:32,773
Speaker 3: He's been in the game for about twenty years and

847
00:41:32,813 --> 00:41:35,333
Speaker 3: he says he's never been busy at Demand for his

848
00:41:35,373 --> 00:41:39,093
Speaker 3: skills is skyrocketed it's grown massively. He says, I'm definitely busy,

849
00:41:39,533 --> 00:41:42,253
Speaker 3: busier than I've ever been in my life, which is

850
00:41:42,293 --> 00:41:46,853
Speaker 3: fascinating their own home old. Home kill business is something

851
00:41:47,013 --> 00:41:49,533
Speaker 3: that most of us. For me, as a city slicker,

852
00:41:49,693 --> 00:41:51,493
Speaker 3: I've never really considered it as an option.

853
00:41:51,773 --> 00:41:54,373
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I actually thought until very recently that homekill

854
00:41:54,493 --> 00:41:56,893
Speaker 2: just meant that someone came around with the beast and

855
00:41:56,973 --> 00:41:58,973
Speaker 2: killed it at your house, did the dirty work.

856
00:41:59,053 --> 00:41:59,252
Speaker 4: Yeah.

857
00:41:59,333 --> 00:42:01,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what did I think it was when

858
00:42:01,173 --> 00:42:02,692
Speaker 2: you took it to a butcher and got it cut

859
00:42:02,813 --> 00:42:04,013
Speaker 2: up and you got all the bits, you know. I

860
00:42:04,013 --> 00:42:06,053
Speaker 2: didn't know that was what homekill was. I knew that

861
00:42:06,093 --> 00:42:07,573
Speaker 2: the two things existed.

862
00:42:07,253 --> 00:42:10,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I had no idea that the homekill butchers

863
00:42:10,773 --> 00:42:13,813
Speaker 3: were there. But he does say that a lot of

864
00:42:13,893 --> 00:42:17,212
Speaker 3: hunters are coming to him for his services because that

865
00:42:17,453 --> 00:42:19,413
Speaker 3: is obviously a really good way to get a lot

866
00:42:19,413 --> 00:42:21,533
Speaker 3: of meat. If you go out hunting and you bring

867
00:42:21,573 --> 00:42:24,133
Speaker 3: them the beast and they put it into saucys and

868
00:42:24,213 --> 00:42:26,733
Speaker 3: patties and salami, then that's going to save you a

869
00:42:26,773 --> 00:42:27,613
Speaker 3: heck of a lot of money.

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00:42:27,773 --> 00:42:30,653
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I've just got a friend here that just

871
00:42:30,693 --> 00:42:33,652
Speaker 2: texted just just did a home kill it's the only

872
00:42:33,693 --> 00:42:35,773
Speaker 2: way to go. Sent me a picture of it, and

873
00:42:35,973 --> 00:42:38,453
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, that's just the half of it, as

874
00:42:38,493 --> 00:42:43,253
Speaker 2: a full chest freezer of bits of beasts.

875
00:42:43,533 --> 00:42:45,813
Speaker 3: I saw the picture before, all sorts of different cuts.

876
00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:48,173
Speaker 3: It's pretty much that that freezer is chocolate block and

877
00:42:48,213 --> 00:42:50,373
Speaker 3: it's a big freezer. Yeah, that is going to keep

878
00:42:50,413 --> 00:42:51,373
Speaker 3: them going for a long time.

879
00:42:51,613 --> 00:42:53,133
Speaker 2: And she didn't know how much he paid for that.

880
00:42:53,293 --> 00:42:55,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I wight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you're

881
00:42:56,013 --> 00:42:57,853
Speaker 3: into the home kill side of things, or you use

882
00:42:57,893 --> 00:42:59,453
Speaker 3: a home kill butcher, we're really keen to have a

883
00:42:59,533 --> 00:43:02,133
Speaker 3: chat with you. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty for

884
00:43:02,253 --> 00:43:04,293
Speaker 3: hunters out there as well. Is that the way to

885
00:43:04,333 --> 00:43:06,653
Speaker 3: go that? If you're in the hunting game, the old

886
00:43:06,733 --> 00:43:09,413
Speaker 3: home kill butcher? How much do you actually Yeah?

887
00:43:09,533 --> 00:43:11,453
Speaker 2: I mean, are you gonna do it yourself? Are you

888
00:43:11,453 --> 00:43:13,173
Speaker 2: going to hack it up yourself?

889
00:43:13,453 --> 00:43:15,413
Speaker 3: Seems like a lot of edmonds, a lot of work.

890
00:43:15,773 --> 00:43:18,212
Speaker 3: Shooting's one thing, and carrying is one thing, but then

891
00:43:18,253 --> 00:43:19,333
Speaker 3: to put it up yourself?

892
00:43:20,173 --> 00:43:22,573
Speaker 2: Are you like me? When I go fishing and you

893
00:43:22,613 --> 00:43:24,733
Speaker 2: know there's that you stop off at the wharf and

894
00:43:24,773 --> 00:43:27,252
Speaker 2: then in hand you fishing and there's a that gets

895
00:43:27,293 --> 00:43:29,493
Speaker 2: filoted for you. Yeah, and put in the in the

896
00:43:29,533 --> 00:43:30,692
Speaker 2: tubs or take them home.

897
00:43:30,773 --> 00:43:33,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a designated filtter on the boat, and it's

898
00:43:33,053 --> 00:43:34,693
Speaker 3: never me. I'm never the designated pilater.

899
00:43:34,813 --> 00:43:37,133
Speaker 2: Oh man. If I'm fillerting, then there is a lot

900
00:43:37,173 --> 00:43:38,013
Speaker 2: being left on the fish.

901
00:43:38,093 --> 00:43:39,212
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no one's eating.

902
00:43:39,253 --> 00:43:41,533
Speaker 2: And also you know a lot of my blood left

903
00:43:41,533 --> 00:43:42,292
Speaker 2: on the fish as well.

904
00:43:42,333 --> 00:43:44,453
Speaker 3: Exactly right. Give us a buzz eight hundred and eighty

905
00:43:44,453 --> 00:43:46,933
Speaker 3: ten eighty home kill if you use home kill or

906
00:43:46,933 --> 00:43:48,813
Speaker 3: you're a hunter out there, really keen to hear from you.

907
00:43:49,213 --> 00:43:51,172
Speaker 3: It is eleven past two.

908
00:43:51,813 --> 00:43:56,373
Speaker 1: Wow your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams

909
00:43:56,413 --> 00:44:00,573
Speaker 1: afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk, said.

910
00:44:00,293 --> 00:44:00,373
Speaker 18: Be.

911
00:44:02,653 --> 00:44:05,813
Speaker 3: Afternoon, fourteen past two, and we're talking about home kill.

912
00:44:05,933 --> 00:44:09,213
Speaker 3: A lot more people are turning to home kill butcheries

913
00:44:09,813 --> 00:44:11,413
Speaker 3: to save a bit of money with the price of

914
00:44:11,413 --> 00:44:12,693
Speaker 3: meat at the moment. If that's you, I on one

915
00:44:12,773 --> 00:44:14,293
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty to number to call.

916
00:44:14,293 --> 00:44:17,613
Speaker 2: Home kills six hundred for half beasts, six hundred for butchery,

917
00:44:17,773 --> 00:44:20,893
Speaker 2: twelve hundred all up average seven dollars fifty per kg.

918
00:44:21,173 --> 00:44:23,252
Speaker 3: That is a good deal. That is a really good deal.

919
00:44:23,413 --> 00:44:25,413
Speaker 2: Wow. So many people were a big fan of BJ

920
00:44:25,613 --> 00:44:28,772
Speaker 2: McKay and his best friend Bear and best of all,

921
00:44:28,813 --> 00:44:34,373
Speaker 2: I don't pay property tacks die. Welcome the show lamers

922
00:44:34,373 --> 00:44:35,693
Speaker 2: our packers.

923
00:44:36,213 --> 00:44:39,973
Speaker 19: Yeah, so we do. We showed and trained and showed

924
00:44:40,053 --> 00:44:43,652
Speaker 19: lamers and our packers for twenty two years. And if

925
00:44:43,653 --> 00:44:45,493
Speaker 19: you didn't place in the ring, then you were in

926
00:44:45,493 --> 00:44:50,293
Speaker 19: the freezer. So yeah, we got in trouble with the MPI.

927
00:44:50,413 --> 00:44:53,133
Speaker 19: We used to because it's a big our packer. You

928
00:44:53,133 --> 00:44:55,373
Speaker 19: can get up to one hundred kg and meat off

929
00:44:55,413 --> 00:44:56,053
Speaker 19: in our packer.

930
00:44:56,253 --> 00:44:56,493
Speaker 20: Wow.

931
00:44:57,373 --> 00:45:02,173
Speaker 19: And we didn't realize how strict MPI were on home curls.

932
00:45:02,293 --> 00:45:05,212
Speaker 19: So we got a letter in the mail from them

933
00:45:05,333 --> 00:45:07,773
Speaker 19: saying that if we if they caught us, or we

934
00:45:07,853 --> 00:45:10,093
Speaker 19: continue to do it, we would get a seventy five

935
00:45:10,173 --> 00:45:14,093
Speaker 19: thousand dollars fine and three hundred hours community service.

936
00:45:15,373 --> 00:45:16,413
Speaker 2: What's it got to do with them?

937
00:45:17,613 --> 00:45:20,693
Speaker 19: MPI managed the home call which we never knew about,

938
00:45:21,853 --> 00:45:24,692
Speaker 19: and the lady came a lady came out to see

939
00:45:24,773 --> 00:45:28,573
Speaker 19: us to really prove the point, and we were really shocked.

940
00:45:28,613 --> 00:45:32,493
Speaker 19: So you're not allowed to actually sell or trade home

941
00:45:32,573 --> 00:45:35,573
Speaker 19: call whatsoever. In New Zealand. You cannot feed it to

942
00:45:35,653 --> 00:45:39,093
Speaker 19: your family if they come over for a meal, and

943
00:45:39,133 --> 00:45:42,093
Speaker 19: you cannot give it to workers who work on your farm.

944
00:45:42,533 --> 00:45:46,813
Speaker 19: Even we were really shocked at the rule book, the

945
00:45:46,893 --> 00:45:48,732
Speaker 19: rules that she had she gave us.

946
00:45:48,973 --> 00:45:51,773
Speaker 2: So were you were you were you? Were you hacking

947
00:45:51,853 --> 00:45:53,812
Speaker 2: up the l packer at home? Or are you taking

948
00:45:53,813 --> 00:45:54,493
Speaker 2: it to a butcher?

949
00:45:55,293 --> 00:45:58,373
Speaker 19: No, we had a professional home caill service come to

950
00:45:58,413 --> 00:46:01,293
Speaker 19: the farm and do it, you know, professionally, and he

951
00:46:01,373 --> 00:46:04,812
Speaker 19: had twenty two years avatire experience. And then he took

952
00:46:04,813 --> 00:46:08,853
Speaker 19: it to the butchers and Alismere who would make amazing

953
00:46:09,413 --> 00:46:13,293
Speaker 19: flavored sausages from it. They couldn't believe how lean and

954
00:46:13,453 --> 00:46:16,533
Speaker 19: healthy the lama and our packer meat was. The fat

955
00:46:16,573 --> 00:46:20,172
Speaker 19: count is really really low on them. But when we

956
00:46:20,213 --> 00:46:21,693
Speaker 19: went back to them, we said, laws on you know,

957
00:46:21,773 --> 00:46:24,613
Speaker 19: this is you can home tell for us. But we

958
00:46:25,133 --> 00:46:28,493
Speaker 19: literally were the only people on the farm who could

959
00:46:28,533 --> 00:46:31,173
Speaker 19: actually eat home coill. You can't sell it, you can't

960
00:46:31,213 --> 00:46:35,253
Speaker 19: trade it. It's a maximum fine of seventy five thousand dollars,

961
00:46:35,333 --> 00:46:39,172
Speaker 19: they told us, and three hundred hours community service if

962
00:46:39,213 --> 00:46:42,493
Speaker 19: they caught us. And we thought it was great. So

963
00:46:42,693 --> 00:46:46,053
Speaker 19: within our packer and lama friends. Because if you have,

964
00:46:46,453 --> 00:46:49,013
Speaker 19: if you're breeding and showing and training and things like that,

965
00:46:49,293 --> 00:46:51,053
Speaker 19: what are you supposed to do with all your golded

966
00:46:51,093 --> 00:46:52,133
Speaker 19: males that do nothing?

967
00:46:52,653 --> 00:46:55,373
Speaker 2: Yeah? What does that mean? This is slightly off topic,

968
00:46:55,373 --> 00:46:57,453
Speaker 2: but what does ol pack and meat like.

969
00:46:58,773 --> 00:47:02,732
Speaker 19: It's like, it's as tasty as lamb and as lean

970
00:47:02,733 --> 00:47:06,253
Speaker 19: as chicken. It's a color of the meat between chicken

971
00:47:06,333 --> 00:47:10,613
Speaker 19: and lamb, but really tasty, really lean, like when we

972
00:47:10,613 --> 00:47:14,813
Speaker 19: would do the lamb chops and then do the olpacker chops. Sorry,

973
00:47:15,053 --> 00:47:18,333
Speaker 19: there's no fat in the tray once you've grilled them

974
00:47:18,413 --> 00:47:21,813
Speaker 19: or fried them. Nothing, there's no fat on them. And yeah,

975
00:47:22,093 --> 00:47:24,893
Speaker 19: homekill guy has to be really skilled with his knives,

976
00:47:25,213 --> 00:47:28,173
Speaker 19: because we would get the hides off them and we'd

977
00:47:28,173 --> 00:47:30,413
Speaker 19: have them, we would take them to a guy a

978
00:47:30,533 --> 00:47:33,493
Speaker 19: tannery and he would make them into the most beautiful

979
00:47:33,773 --> 00:47:36,453
Speaker 19: hypoalergenic drugs. So beautiful rugs.

980
00:47:36,893 --> 00:47:38,333
Speaker 3: Wow, get a lot out of that animal.

981
00:47:38,413 --> 00:47:43,333
Speaker 2: Did your ol packers and alarmers have names? Yeah?

982
00:47:43,413 --> 00:47:43,613
Speaker 10: Yeah.

983
00:47:43,653 --> 00:47:45,933
Speaker 19: So we've got young Yum on our flow here with

984
00:47:46,013 --> 00:47:49,293
Speaker 19: our stud mail for five years and everyone comes over

985
00:47:49,373 --> 00:47:51,493
Speaker 19: and goes too, it's a beautiful rug and we we

986
00:47:51,653 --> 00:47:54,373
Speaker 19: show them Yum Yum's ribbons and that, and then he

987
00:47:54,493 --> 00:47:56,093
Speaker 19: sailed in the ring and he got eaten.

988
00:47:56,253 --> 00:47:59,653
Speaker 2: So right, what was the best part of Yum Yum?

989
00:47:59,693 --> 00:48:03,133
Speaker 19: Definitely, I wouldn't give away the steaks, so I'd never

990
00:48:03,213 --> 00:48:05,413
Speaker 19: let anyone have the steaks off the el packers or

991
00:48:05,453 --> 00:48:08,693
Speaker 19: the alarmers. They're my favorite. Yeah, and we get one

992
00:48:08,773 --> 00:48:12,373
Speaker 19: hundred and eighty kgs of meat off alamaw up to

993
00:48:12,573 --> 00:48:15,613
Speaker 19: one hundred, one hundred and twenty kgs off ol packer,

994
00:48:15,933 --> 00:48:17,813
Speaker 19: and the neck chops were amazing.

995
00:48:17,973 --> 00:48:20,212
Speaker 3: Yeah, they sound pretty good. I mean they say, don't

996
00:48:20,253 --> 00:48:22,693
Speaker 3: don't name the animals if they're set for the homekill,

997
00:48:22,733 --> 00:48:24,453
Speaker 3: but there's a way around it. Just call them Yum Yum,

998
00:48:24,613 --> 00:48:27,333
Speaker 3: tasty m burger shop yep.

999
00:48:27,973 --> 00:48:28,853
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1000
00:48:29,693 --> 00:48:32,853
Speaker 19: Bacon and so Kevin.

1001
00:48:32,613 --> 00:48:33,253
Speaker 3: Bacon love it.

1002
00:48:34,533 --> 00:48:36,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, what sort of thing so you got? You've ever

1003
00:48:36,333 --> 00:48:37,813
Speaker 2: run a lama salami?

1004
00:48:39,293 --> 00:48:41,692
Speaker 19: Yes, they tried that. It didn't work out as well

1005
00:48:41,693 --> 00:48:43,933
Speaker 19: as the salami. They did make out of the lama

1006
00:48:43,973 --> 00:48:45,813
Speaker 19: but not the old packer, but it just didn't have

1007
00:48:45,973 --> 00:48:50,252
Speaker 19: enough fat content in it silami. Yeah, but we did

1008
00:48:50,333 --> 00:48:53,493
Speaker 19: ham and we did lama bacon. They had to go

1009
00:48:53,533 --> 00:48:56,053
Speaker 19: up to bacon and yeah, they were an award winning

1010
00:48:56,133 --> 00:49:01,373
Speaker 19: sausage making butchery. And yeah, they wanted to put the

1011
00:49:01,453 --> 00:49:04,013
Speaker 19: lamas in the Alpaka sausages in the following year. But

1012
00:49:04,453 --> 00:49:07,853
Speaker 19: once we got once we got a visit from MPI

1013
00:49:07,973 --> 00:49:08,973
Speaker 19: were with terrified.

1014
00:49:09,293 --> 00:49:13,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah we should, We'll look up the rules on that.

1015
00:49:13,373 --> 00:49:14,172
Speaker 2: Absolutely crazy.

1016
00:49:14,253 --> 00:49:16,292
Speaker 3: But I can't buy so I can't buy lama meat

1017
00:49:16,653 --> 00:49:16,973
Speaker 3: or our pa.

1018
00:49:18,173 --> 00:49:21,573
Speaker 19: No, and she was very clear that we couldn't even

1019
00:49:22,213 --> 00:49:24,973
Speaker 19: sell a lama to someone. If you have a lama

1020
00:49:25,173 --> 00:49:27,533
Speaker 19: or no, say you have any meat on your property.

1021
00:49:27,653 --> 00:49:29,853
Speaker 19: You're a farmer, and you have anything on your property

1022
00:49:30,573 --> 00:49:32,893
Speaker 19: and you want someone wants to come out and buy

1023
00:49:32,933 --> 00:49:36,933
Speaker 19: that to them put in their freezer. You have to

1024
00:49:37,013 --> 00:49:40,173
Speaker 19: show legal ownership of that animal for longer than three

1025
00:49:40,213 --> 00:49:43,933
Speaker 19: months for it to legally be their animal. To then

1026
00:49:44,013 --> 00:49:45,333
Speaker 19: have home killed on our farm?

1027
00:49:45,653 --> 00:49:47,853
Speaker 2: How far have we fallen as a species from our

1028
00:49:48,053 --> 00:49:54,133
Speaker 2: hunter and gatherer days. You get someone coming around to

1029
00:49:54,453 --> 00:49:56,853
Speaker 2: threaten you because you're eating a beast.

1030
00:49:56,613 --> 00:49:57,533
Speaker 3: We wouldn't have survived.

1031
00:49:57,613 --> 00:49:59,733
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for talking to us. Die,

1032
00:49:59,813 --> 00:50:03,293
Speaker 2: that's really interesting problem. Ri ip yum yum. I wish

1033
00:50:03,373 --> 00:50:05,453
Speaker 2: I was there to have some of his neck.

1034
00:50:05,693 --> 00:50:09,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, hides ound a pretty good. Day eighty is the

1035
00:50:09,413 --> 00:50:11,973
Speaker 3: number to call if you're into the home kill business.

1036
00:50:11,973 --> 00:50:13,573
Speaker 3: We'd love to hear from you. And if you like

1037
00:50:13,653 --> 00:50:17,493
Speaker 3: die that you've looked at home killing the likes of Atlama.

1038
00:50:17,133 --> 00:50:21,093
Speaker 2: It's because of TB et cetera. Yeah, the old TEB. Yeah,

1039
00:50:21,093 --> 00:50:22,973
Speaker 2: but I mean what I've just still I still stand

1040
00:50:23,013 --> 00:50:25,613
Speaker 2: by it. How far have we fallen as a species

1041
00:50:25,653 --> 00:50:28,252
Speaker 2: that we can't just eat any animal that we see

1042
00:50:28,293 --> 00:50:28,812
Speaker 2: walking around?

1043
00:50:28,853 --> 00:50:31,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're falling a lot as twenty pars too. Taking

1044
00:50:31,973 --> 00:50:33,692
Speaker 3: more of your calls very shortly.

1045
00:50:37,653 --> 00:50:41,053
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh, eight hundred

1046
00:50:41,133 --> 00:50:43,013
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZB.

1047
00:50:43,213 --> 00:50:45,413
Speaker 3: It's twenty three pass too. So the price of meat,

1048
00:50:45,413 --> 00:50:47,652
Speaker 3: as we know in supermarkets is sky high right now,

1049
00:50:47,773 --> 00:50:50,333
Speaker 3: so people are turning more and more to homekill butchers

1050
00:50:50,373 --> 00:50:52,333
Speaker 3: to get a better deal. If that's you, you love to

1051
00:50:52,333 --> 00:50:55,853
Speaker 3: hear from you. On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1052
00:50:55,173 --> 00:50:57,653
Speaker 2: This Texas says, I went to camel farm in Queensland.

1053
00:50:57,653 --> 00:51:00,973
Speaker 2: They sell camel milk pie, salami, cheese, camel burgers, et cetera.

1054
00:51:01,093 --> 00:51:03,253
Speaker 2: Google it lots of fun. Paul Sorr, I can't.

1055
00:51:03,053 --> 00:51:05,453
Speaker 3: Call camel burger sounds pretty good. I don't know about

1056
00:51:05,493 --> 00:51:06,453
Speaker 3: the camel milk, though.

1057
00:51:07,293 --> 00:51:10,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's camel milk? I'm a beef farmer, I mean

1058
00:51:10,053 --> 00:51:11,973
Speaker 2: what's camel milk? I mean, what's camel milk? I know

1059
00:51:12,053 --> 00:51:13,772
Speaker 2: what camel milker is. It's milk that comes from a camal.

1060
00:51:13,853 --> 00:51:15,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what would it you know, would it be

1061
00:51:15,373 --> 00:51:17,173
Speaker 3: similar to cow's milk? Maybe it would.

1062
00:51:17,573 --> 00:51:20,533
Speaker 2: Someone was telling me that whale milk milkers is very

1063
00:51:20,533 --> 00:51:25,013
Speaker 2: interesting stuff. Whale milk. It's almost like it's like it's like.

1064
00:51:25,133 --> 00:51:26,652
Speaker 3: Very solid, Yeah, quite thick.

1065
00:51:26,733 --> 00:51:29,853
Speaker 2: Imagine, Yeah, like nessiles condensed milk, but even more solid.

1066
00:51:29,933 --> 00:51:32,812
Speaker 2: Quite sweet, quite sweet. Yeah, but I mean whale milk.

1067
00:51:33,213 --> 00:51:35,652
Speaker 2: We'll go out there and milk a whale. One what

1068
00:51:35,773 --> 00:51:37,652
Speaker 2: mp I say about that? Someone's swimming out and trying

1069
00:51:37,653 --> 00:51:40,773
Speaker 2: to milk whales. They were there off the coast of

1070
00:51:40,813 --> 00:51:43,733
Speaker 2: co Coorda. I'm a beef farmer and we do homecooll

1071
00:51:43,853 --> 00:51:47,173
Speaker 2: beef for ourselves. Don't get permission, never had a problem,

1072
00:51:47,373 --> 00:51:48,772
Speaker 2: but we don't sell it. That's from Anna.

1073
00:51:48,853 --> 00:51:51,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, good on your Anna. One hundred and eighty ten

1074
00:51:51,173 --> 00:51:53,652
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call John. How are you?

1075
00:51:55,133 --> 00:51:57,973
Speaker 15: Yeah, I've got a bit emotional about the help. She

1076
00:51:58,053 --> 00:52:00,172
Speaker 15: got quite seen the metal about those animals, doesn't she.

1077
00:52:01,133 --> 00:52:03,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of empathy for young young.

1078
00:52:04,853 --> 00:52:12,533
Speaker 15: Yeah, empathy. I'm a farmer and we get home killed guard.

1079
00:52:12,773 --> 00:52:15,533
Speaker 15: I'm just a little bit confused. You're you're you're kind

1080
00:52:15,533 --> 00:52:17,933
Speaker 15: of conveying that anybody can go and get home called,

1081
00:52:17,973 --> 00:52:20,212
Speaker 15: but you have to own the animal first, don't you.

1082
00:52:20,733 --> 00:52:22,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, a lot of hunters, so we're going to

1083
00:52:22,453 --> 00:52:24,613
Speaker 3: have a chat to this guy, Aaron Pohado that runs

1084
00:52:24,613 --> 00:52:27,133
Speaker 3: his own business. But from the reading of the story,

1085
00:52:27,173 --> 00:52:29,013
Speaker 3: it is a lot Yeah, so you own the animal

1086
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Speaker 3: or a lot of hunters are turning up, so a

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00:52:31,253 --> 00:52:33,293
Speaker 3: lot more people get into hunting to try and save

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Speaker 3: a bit of money on meat as well.

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Speaker 15: You're talking about the rural community doing home call versus

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00:52:41,693 --> 00:52:44,373
Speaker 15: the people living in the city. They can't do home caill.

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Speaker 15: So it sounds like you're conveying anywhere can go and

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Speaker 15: do homekill. Gun't find an animal and get it killed

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00:52:49,653 --> 00:52:54,413
Speaker 15: and that a home But that's not how it works. Okay,

1094
00:52:54,453 --> 00:52:56,813
Speaker 15: well it's kind of how it was, but ye, I

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00:52:56,813 --> 00:52:59,733
Speaker 15: mean home killers they come to your property and they

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00:52:59,853 --> 00:53:02,733
Speaker 15: got the animal, take it away, butcher it feeze it

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00:53:02,893 --> 00:53:05,212
Speaker 15: and then you go and pick it up and put

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00:53:05,173 --> 00:53:05,813
Speaker 15: it in your freezer.

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00:53:06,213 --> 00:53:09,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you can. But you can so if

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00:53:09,533 --> 00:53:12,253
Speaker 2: you shoot a red deer, for example, you can then

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00:53:12,373 --> 00:53:14,293
Speaker 2: take that in and get that chopped up as well.

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00:53:15,173 --> 00:53:19,173
Speaker 2: You can do this so when you get when you

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00:53:19,213 --> 00:53:23,212
Speaker 2: get home, kill John because someone some are saying before

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00:53:23,253 --> 00:53:26,893
Speaker 2: that you can't give it to anyone outside of your family,

1105
00:53:27,053 --> 00:53:29,293
Speaker 2: but that's not true. You can invite people around the

1106
00:53:29,373 --> 00:53:30,973
Speaker 2: m P I doesn't mind if you invite people around

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00:53:31,013 --> 00:53:32,053
Speaker 2: to eat a bit of your meat.

1108
00:53:33,293 --> 00:53:36,573
Speaker 15: No, no, I mean, I mean there's only two in

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00:53:36,613 --> 00:53:39,493
Speaker 15: the family. A beast last a very very long time.

1110
00:53:39,533 --> 00:53:42,133
Speaker 15: So normally you would either you would either sell it

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00:53:42,213 --> 00:53:45,453
Speaker 15: to friends, sell a half or a quarter to friends.

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00:53:45,493 --> 00:53:48,413
Speaker 15: I mean, that's that's that would be the most common

1113
00:53:48,453 --> 00:53:51,453
Speaker 15: thing that's done on the rural rural New Zealand. I

1114
00:53:51,493 --> 00:53:51,973
Speaker 15: would have thought.

1115
00:53:52,253 --> 00:53:54,213
Speaker 3: But you have to do that when you sorry to

1116
00:53:54,293 --> 00:53:55,652
Speaker 3: jump in there. You have to do that when the

1117
00:53:55,653 --> 00:53:59,613
Speaker 3: animals alive. So you sell it to friends, and you

1118
00:53:59,693 --> 00:54:00,652
Speaker 3: might well you.

1119
00:54:00,613 --> 00:54:03,733
Speaker 15: Might just might have say I'm killing an animals. You

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00:54:03,733 --> 00:54:06,933
Speaker 15: want to sell them half? Yes, okay? And they and

1121
00:54:07,053 --> 00:54:09,853
Speaker 15: so you share the butchery car and you take a

1122
00:54:09,893 --> 00:54:12,773
Speaker 15: schedule rate, whatever it is, what the animal is selling

1123
00:54:13,293 --> 00:54:16,973
Speaker 15: as a as a live animal, whatever the scheduled beef

1124
00:54:17,013 --> 00:54:19,652
Speaker 15: schedule is, and then you pay the butcher costs and

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00:54:19,653 --> 00:54:22,813
Speaker 15: and and and that's it. So but that would be

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00:54:23,093 --> 00:54:26,613
Speaker 15: very commoner. Not too many farmers. And well I shouldn't

1127
00:54:26,613 --> 00:54:28,773
Speaker 15: say that, but I mean it's been the bigger families.

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Speaker 15: But a whole beast would last you know, two or

1129
00:54:31,893 --> 00:54:35,093
Speaker 15: three people over a year just about, and then at

1130
00:54:35,133 --> 00:54:37,172
Speaker 15: the end of the year you got all the well

1131
00:54:37,173 --> 00:54:40,093
Speaker 15: they're not very nice cuts, you know, so most people

1132
00:54:40,173 --> 00:54:43,253
Speaker 15: would would sell a half or a corner, so you

1133
00:54:43,333 --> 00:54:45,732
Speaker 15: might you could have four people, three people that want

1134
00:54:45,933 --> 00:54:49,773
Speaker 15: a quarter each. So yeah, that's how that's how it's

1135
00:54:49,773 --> 00:54:50,813
Speaker 15: traditionally done.

1136
00:54:51,093 --> 00:54:52,373
Speaker 2: How much how much better?

1137
00:54:52,453 --> 00:54:52,533
Speaker 4: Is?

1138
00:54:52,653 --> 00:54:55,453
Speaker 2: How much better is home kill meat? Or is it

1139
00:54:55,453 --> 00:54:57,773
Speaker 2: better than supermarket meat? Can you?

1140
00:54:57,893 --> 00:54:58,013
Speaker 8: Is it?

1141
00:54:58,053 --> 00:54:59,652
Speaker 2: Once? Once you start on the home meat, does the

1142
00:54:59,693 --> 00:55:01,933
Speaker 2: other kind of meat taste taste not up to the scratch?

1143
00:55:02,693 --> 00:55:05,693
Speaker 15: No, I don't think there's any any difference except you

1144
00:55:05,773 --> 00:55:08,773
Speaker 15: know where the animals come from, you know, you know,

1145
00:55:08,813 --> 00:55:11,293
Speaker 15: like I mean, killing them killing them in the panic

1146
00:55:11,453 --> 00:55:15,333
Speaker 15: is a is a very important thing that that the

1147
00:55:15,453 --> 00:55:18,013
Speaker 15: animal doesn't get stressed because that's the adrenaline gets pumped

1148
00:55:18,013 --> 00:55:20,893
Speaker 15: through the animal. That then that can that can make

1149
00:55:20,933 --> 00:55:24,533
Speaker 15: it quite tough. So you need to kind of stick

1150
00:55:24,653 --> 00:55:27,172
Speaker 15: up on the animal, so to speak, or not let

1151
00:55:27,213 --> 00:55:30,333
Speaker 15: it know. And they know they know, So that's that's

1152
00:55:30,373 --> 00:55:32,613
Speaker 15: not a very nice part of the whole thing. They

1153
00:55:32,693 --> 00:55:34,413
Speaker 15: don't want to see you let your grand kit see it.

1154
00:55:34,733 --> 00:55:37,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I don't.

1155
00:55:37,293 --> 00:55:40,173
Speaker 15: Think there's a lot of difference. There's always there's always

1156
00:55:40,333 --> 00:55:44,613
Speaker 15: the thing with home kills, whether you get your own

1157
00:55:44,693 --> 00:55:48,373
Speaker 15: animal back, it's sort of like, oh, you know, might

1158
00:55:48,693 --> 00:55:51,212
Speaker 15: get one that's been in the who arranges and it's

1159
00:55:51,253 --> 00:55:54,692
Speaker 15: built like built like speaker and you and you get

1160
00:55:54,773 --> 00:55:56,293
Speaker 15: back and it's as tough as old.

1161
00:55:58,253 --> 00:56:00,053
Speaker 2: That's the part I hadn't thought of it. So just

1162
00:56:00,053 --> 00:56:03,013
Speaker 2: looking at the the mp I dot guft in Z

1163
00:56:03,173 --> 00:56:05,853
Speaker 2: who can slaughter animals for meat. Home kill slaughtering can

1164
00:56:05,893 --> 00:56:08,293
Speaker 2: be done by either the animal owner on their own

1165
00:56:08,413 --> 00:56:12,893
Speaker 2: property a listed homekill or recreational catch service provider that

1166
00:56:12,933 --> 00:56:15,573
Speaker 2: the owner hires. You can only hire a service provider

1167
00:56:15,613 --> 00:56:17,733
Speaker 2: if you were involved in the day to day maintenance

1168
00:56:17,773 --> 00:56:20,093
Speaker 2: of the animal or animals of the same kind for

1169
00:56:20,133 --> 00:56:23,613
Speaker 2: at least twenty eight days. Right before it's slaughter. Who

1170
00:56:23,613 --> 00:56:26,533
Speaker 2: can eat home killed meat? Homekill meat commeeting by the

1171
00:56:26,533 --> 00:56:29,893
Speaker 2: animal owner, the direct family or household of the animal owner,

1172
00:56:30,253 --> 00:56:33,333
Speaker 2: farm workers employed in a farm's daily operations, the farm workers,

1173
00:56:33,413 --> 00:56:34,692
Speaker 2: family and households.

1174
00:56:34,773 --> 00:56:38,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Right coming up after the headlines.

1175
00:56:37,973 --> 00:56:41,973
Speaker 2: So technically you can't, according to MPI, invite all your

1176
00:56:42,013 --> 00:56:44,893
Speaker 2: mates around for a big homekill feast.

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00:56:44,733 --> 00:56:47,253
Speaker 3: Which is crazy. What are they care? Right coming up

1178
00:56:47,293 --> 00:56:49,172
Speaker 3: after the headlines, we are going to have a chat

1179
00:56:49,213 --> 00:56:53,053
Speaker 3: with Aaron Pohatu. He's been a home kill butcher for

1180
00:56:53,173 --> 00:56:56,453
Speaker 3: decades and he said he's been busier, never been busier

1181
00:56:56,493 --> 00:56:57,853
Speaker 3: than he is right now. So we're going to have

1182
00:56:57,853 --> 00:56:59,973
Speaker 3: a chat to him about why and what it takes

1183
00:56:59,973 --> 00:57:02,133
Speaker 3: to be a home kill butcher. That is coming up

1184
00:57:02,173 --> 00:57:04,093
Speaker 3: headlines with scarlet on its.

1185
00:57:03,933 --> 00:57:09,573
Speaker 12: Way, Jews talk sa'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

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Speaker 12: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. The government is

1187
00:57:12,573 --> 00:57:15,933
Speaker 12: calling on MSD to use common sense and good judgment

1188
00:57:16,013 --> 00:57:20,093
Speaker 12: when determining whether someone should qualify for emergency housing. It's

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Speaker 12: among five immediate actions to try to tackle the country's

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Speaker 12: issues with rough sleeping. More than one hundred thousand primary

1191
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Speaker 12: age students could benefit from a new staffing entitlement next

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Speaker 12: year designed to help neurodiverse students and those with additional

1193
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Speaker 12: learning needs. The Prime Minister's not worried about budget documents

1194
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Speaker 12: suggesting an eight point five billion dollar hole in the

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Speaker 12: government's finances. Chris Luxon said he wouldn't characterize the figure

1196
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Speaker 12: as a whole, rather that it highlights the government will

1197
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Speaker 12: need to continue to find savings. Auckland Museum is considering

1198
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Speaker 12: cutting thirty jobs after asbestoss has led to plunging visitor numbers.

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Speaker 12: The museum has been reopening in sections, but a drop

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Speaker 12: in visitors is expected to have a two million dollar

1201
00:58:02,253 --> 00:58:06,213
Speaker 12: impact on revenue over the next two years. The Defense

1202
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Speaker 12: Force is appealing a former soldiers recent an espionage sentence,

1203
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Speaker 12: calling it manifestly inadequate. The man was sentenced last month

1204
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Speaker 12: to two years in military detention. Rich Lister exits the

1205
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Speaker 12: platform as Sean Plunkett takes one hundred percent ownership. Read

1206
00:58:21,053 --> 00:58:24,453
Speaker 12: this and more from Media Insider at ends at Herald Premium.

1207
00:58:24,493 --> 00:58:27,053
Speaker 12: Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: News talksb It's thirty twenty seven to three.

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Speaker 2: This is slightly off the topic of homekerl, but I

1210
00:58:31,893 --> 00:58:33,733
Speaker 2: haven't be able to get the song out of my head.

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00:58:34,013 --> 00:58:38,253
Speaker 2: We were talking about trucking in the one o'clock hour,

1212
00:58:38,573 --> 00:58:39,893
Speaker 2: so this might mean something to you.

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Speaker 9: Tell me if this means anything to you, you guess

1214
00:58:46,413 --> 00:59:06,813
Speaker 9: the keyword. Yeah, he goes the Terman's Eagles.

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00:59:06,533 --> 00:59:14,093
Speaker 17: Beer Jamie, I love it made.

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00:59:14,133 --> 00:59:15,613
Speaker 3: I'm just having a lot of picture.

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00:59:21,333 --> 00:59:22,453
Speaker 6: Jeeves and.

1218
00:59:24,373 --> 00:59:28,253
Speaker 2: Festival Bety Tacks, great cart.

1219
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Speaker 3: They don't make make theme songs like they used to

1220
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Speaker 3: thet I don't make.

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00:59:32,773 --> 00:59:35,773
Speaker 2: Whole TV shows about a guy called bj that drives

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00:59:35,853 --> 00:59:40,653
Speaker 2: around in a Kenworth truck with a chimpanzee chimpanzee with

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Speaker 2: a little hat and as best mate as a lady

1224
00:59:43,773 --> 00:59:45,693
Speaker 2: driver called Stacks. They don't make shows like that anymore.

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00:59:45,773 --> 00:59:47,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the Tics machines blowing up nine to nine

1226
00:59:48,453 --> 00:59:51,453
Speaker 3: love their TV show. Thanks for the walk down Memory Lane.

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Speaker 2: Love it Roster for the dump property Tacks.

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00:59:55,973 --> 00:59:59,373
Speaker 3: That was nice mate. Thank you for right back to

1229
00:59:59,853 --> 01:00:02,813
Speaker 3: our discussion about home kill. So the story that we

1230
01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:06,493
Speaker 3: read today, it mentioned a gentleman called Aaron Porhatu. So

1231
01:00:06,613 --> 01:00:08,653
Speaker 3: he's been in the game for about twenty years and

1232
01:00:08,733 --> 01:00:12,173
Speaker 3: runs his own home kill business, and Aaron joins us

1233
01:00:12,293 --> 01:00:14,453
Speaker 3: on the line. Now, Aaron, very good afternoon to you.

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01:00:15,373 --> 01:00:17,293
Speaker 10: Oh, good afternoon, Thank you for having me on board.

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Speaker 2: Hey, how much is demand for homekill gone up? And

1236
01:00:20,733 --> 01:00:22,013
Speaker 2: why are people getting so into it?

1237
01:00:23,653 --> 01:00:26,653
Speaker 10: Yeah, there's a massive demand for it, and it's quite

1238
01:00:26,693 --> 01:00:29,773
Speaker 10: simple really, it's off the living and the price of

1239
01:00:29,853 --> 01:00:31,933
Speaker 10: meat that's in the butcher shops and supermarket.

1240
01:00:32,333 --> 01:00:35,333
Speaker 2: So roughly, how much do you save compared to supermarket

1241
01:00:35,413 --> 01:00:36,133
Speaker 2: meat prices?

1242
01:00:36,373 --> 01:00:40,213
Speaker 10: Erin, Oh, looking very it's hard to sort of put

1243
01:00:40,253 --> 01:00:43,653
Speaker 10: a number on that, but it's a lot cheaper, you know,

1244
01:00:43,733 --> 01:00:46,693
Speaker 10: it could be a third or two dudes cheaper than

1245
01:00:46,733 --> 01:00:50,733
Speaker 10: what's in the retail world. But they obviously have to

1246
01:00:50,813 --> 01:00:51,733
Speaker 10: provide their own meat.

1247
01:00:52,133 --> 01:00:56,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the sort of difference in taste quality that

1248
01:00:56,733 --> 01:01:01,013
Speaker 2: people notice from their own stock or wild game that

1249
01:01:01,093 --> 01:01:02,013
Speaker 2: that comes through you?

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01:01:02,253 --> 01:01:04,853
Speaker 10: Erin, Yeah, oh that, look, there's a huge there's a

1251
01:01:04,933 --> 01:01:08,253
Speaker 10: huge difference. So homekill, you know, I put my heart

1252
01:01:08,413 --> 01:01:10,853
Speaker 10: on that. It's the way to go. For example of

1253
01:01:10,973 --> 01:01:14,853
Speaker 10: Ben speaking a lot about their venison, those animals are

1254
01:01:14,893 --> 01:01:17,893
Speaker 10: grown in the most perfect organic conditions out in the world,

1255
01:01:18,493 --> 01:01:20,773
Speaker 10: and you know, you shoot those and bring them in

1256
01:01:20,893 --> 01:01:23,613
Speaker 10: and get things made. It's it's one of the best

1257
01:01:23,693 --> 01:01:25,173
Speaker 10: meat you can possibly get your hands on.

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01:01:25,933 --> 01:01:28,893
Speaker 3: And what is the what what is mainly asked for

1259
01:01:28,973 --> 01:01:30,973
Speaker 3: in terms of the meat product. A lot of people

1260
01:01:31,093 --> 01:01:33,573
Speaker 3: want saucy salami, steak, the whole she bang.

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01:01:34,453 --> 01:01:37,573
Speaker 10: Yeah, So an average day they would come in, they

1262
01:01:37,693 --> 01:01:39,493
Speaker 10: want these steaks on the back legs and the back

1263
01:01:39,573 --> 01:01:46,253
Speaker 10: steaks and then what they're trimmed. They've got options of sausages, meat, petties, saveloys,

1264
01:01:46,933 --> 01:01:53,613
Speaker 10: mint balami, bears, sticks, cranks, geese, and venison corn venison.

1265
01:01:53,733 --> 01:01:59,093
Speaker 10: You can also do venison bacon hams. Yeah, it's there's

1266
01:01:59,133 --> 01:02:00,813
Speaker 10: heats that you can do with them now.

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01:02:00,853 --> 01:02:03,813
Speaker 2: And of course that homekill works for those with farms

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01:02:03,933 --> 01:02:06,453
Speaker 2: or if you're if you're out hunting, but what what

1269
01:02:06,613 --> 01:02:08,573
Speaker 2: can urban families do? What options do the they have

1270
01:02:08,653 --> 01:02:09,413
Speaker 2: around home kill?

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01:02:10,373 --> 01:02:12,093
Speaker 10: Yeah, they don't have much. You know, like I say,

1272
01:02:12,213 --> 01:02:14,973
Speaker 10: MPI have quite strict rules on there. So you know,

1273
01:02:15,053 --> 01:02:17,413
Speaker 10: if you if you don't have an area or don't

1274
01:02:17,453 --> 01:02:19,373
Speaker 10: have an animal in your own, back out for twenty

1275
01:02:19,453 --> 01:02:23,013
Speaker 10: eight days minimum. You you don't officially own it, so

1276
01:02:23,453 --> 01:02:26,053
Speaker 10: you can buy an animal so and then they have

1277
01:02:26,173 --> 01:02:27,813
Speaker 10: it for twenty eight days and then you can get

1278
01:02:27,813 --> 01:02:30,413
Speaker 10: a flauded and then put through a home called butchery.

1279
01:02:30,653 --> 01:02:33,813
Speaker 10: But you know, all for guys like myself, it's more

1280
01:02:33,813 --> 01:02:38,213
Speaker 10: about the lifestyle. You know, the people that have gone

1281
01:02:38,213 --> 01:02:40,013
Speaker 10: out of the land and they're running their own deep

1282
01:02:40,053 --> 01:02:42,413
Speaker 10: in their own pigs. You know, it's not just the

1283
01:02:42,493 --> 01:02:45,053
Speaker 10: hunting world. So you know there's farmers that are bringing

1284
01:02:45,133 --> 01:02:48,053
Speaker 10: in beef. You know, there's still penny of that going on.

1285
01:02:48,573 --> 01:02:54,373
Speaker 2: What's some of the more interesting things that you've butchered, Aaron, Yeah.

1286
01:02:54,333 --> 01:02:57,893
Speaker 10: I've done osages, and I've do a lot of ducks

1287
01:02:57,933 --> 01:03:01,613
Speaker 10: to be honest and pass and so yeah, a lot

1288
01:03:01,653 --> 01:03:05,253
Speaker 10: of birds and things there they're coming in. But like

1289
01:03:05,333 --> 01:03:07,013
Speaker 10: I say, a lot of guys are out they do

1290
01:03:07,213 --> 01:03:10,173
Speaker 10: hunting of innocent and pigs, but they also do a

1291
01:03:10,253 --> 01:03:12,133
Speaker 10: lot of duck shooting and that sort of thing as well.

1292
01:03:12,213 --> 01:03:14,733
Speaker 10: So they shoot a lot. They want things made with them,

1293
01:03:14,773 --> 01:03:17,573
Speaker 10: and you can do it exactly the same stuff like

1294
01:03:17,653 --> 01:03:19,333
Speaker 10: sausages and petties, which I mentioned earlier.

1295
01:03:19,613 --> 01:03:21,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if I came in with some possums that

1296
01:03:21,693 --> 01:03:23,253
Speaker 2: I've peeled off a road, I wouldn't be able to

1297
01:03:23,293 --> 01:03:24,573
Speaker 2: get you to cut those up and turn the midto

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01:03:24,573 --> 01:03:25,493
Speaker 2: sausages what I own.

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01:03:26,133 --> 01:03:28,213
Speaker 10: Well, well I could, but you wouldn't get much off.

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01:03:28,053 --> 01:03:34,733
Speaker 2: It, and there some good bossom stew in the time.

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01:03:35,093 --> 01:03:38,373
Speaker 10: But yeah, so you can still do that sort of thing,

1302
01:03:38,413 --> 01:03:40,533
Speaker 10: you know, like look those options through out there for people.

1303
01:03:40,693 --> 01:03:43,973
Speaker 10: You know that it's stuff out there. I recommend go hunting,

1304
01:03:44,133 --> 01:03:46,493
Speaker 10: you know, get out there, and if you don't, if

1305
01:03:46,533 --> 01:03:49,213
Speaker 10: you don't know hunters, like put it out there because

1306
01:03:49,213 --> 01:03:51,293
Speaker 10: there are hunters out there there to do get a

1307
01:03:51,333 --> 01:03:53,493
Speaker 10: lot of animals and are willing to give it away,

1308
01:03:53,893 --> 01:03:57,973
Speaker 10: you know. So just let people know that you might

1309
01:03:58,013 --> 01:04:00,693
Speaker 10: be struggling out there and there's anybody got things because

1310
01:04:00,853 --> 01:04:02,933
Speaker 10: it is out there, and there's a good bartering system

1311
01:04:03,013 --> 01:04:05,173
Speaker 10: that's going on there to help people as well.

1312
01:04:05,733 --> 01:04:05,893
Speaker 4: You know.

1313
01:04:06,173 --> 01:04:09,973
Speaker 10: So there are options out there to supplemental you know,

1314
01:04:10,093 --> 01:04:12,933
Speaker 10: your weekly income for buying meat and going to the supermarket.

1315
01:04:13,093 --> 01:04:14,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really cool to hear. So just break it

1316
01:04:15,013 --> 01:04:17,973
Speaker 3: down for us, Aaron. So I'm just reading some of

1317
01:04:18,373 --> 01:04:20,653
Speaker 3: your rough prices here, So it's about forty bucks to

1318
01:04:20,853 --> 01:04:22,973
Speaker 3: bone out of beer? How much a kilogram to make

1319
01:04:23,013 --> 01:04:24,453
Speaker 3: some saucy's? Roughly?

1320
01:04:24,653 --> 01:04:28,933
Speaker 10: Are there seven fifty a kilo? And yeah, petties are

1321
01:04:28,933 --> 01:04:33,813
Speaker 10: seven fifty, Minster's four dollars fifty and yeah, so you

1322
01:04:33,893 --> 01:04:36,173
Speaker 10: know there's a mass of big changes, you know, and

1323
01:04:36,533 --> 01:04:38,853
Speaker 10: the quality of the meat, and you know, like butcher's

1324
01:04:38,893 --> 01:04:41,893
Speaker 10: the mice of my caliber. You know that we're we're

1325
01:04:41,973 --> 01:04:44,133
Speaker 10: quite rare. We're a bit of a dying breed, you know,

1326
01:04:44,293 --> 01:04:46,973
Speaker 10: butchers that can do the whole shooting box, you know.

1327
01:04:47,173 --> 01:04:50,773
Speaker 10: So what I mean by that is Faster's petties, bacon Hams,

1328
01:04:50,853 --> 01:04:53,333
Speaker 10: you know, the whole thing. Yeah, supermarkets, They've got big

1329
01:04:53,453 --> 01:04:55,013
Speaker 10: companies that make all that for them.

1330
01:04:55,173 --> 01:04:56,733
Speaker 3: And how can people get a hold of you? I'm

1331
01:04:56,733 --> 01:04:59,173
Speaker 3: sure you're not sure of business at the moment, Aaron,

1332
01:04:59,293 --> 01:05:01,493
Speaker 3: But do you want to give a week plug?

1333
01:05:02,493 --> 01:05:04,613
Speaker 10: Yeah? No, no, you can done. You can definitely just

1334
01:05:04,973 --> 01:05:07,173
Speaker 10: look me up and punch in my name and you

1335
01:05:07,213 --> 01:05:10,333
Speaker 10: can probably find me. I can give you my phone number,

1336
01:05:10,413 --> 01:05:12,133
Speaker 10: that sort of thing. But just everyone just needs to

1337
01:05:12,173 --> 01:05:14,173
Speaker 10: look up Aaron boor To and google me and you

1338
01:05:14,293 --> 01:05:17,493
Speaker 10: you'll you'll come across me. I'm and haytiens Clive. There's

1339
01:05:17,533 --> 01:05:20,133
Speaker 10: lots of other home caoll butchers around, these heaps of

1340
01:05:20,253 --> 01:05:22,413
Speaker 10: us that are out there. I just want to stay

1341
01:05:22,453 --> 01:05:24,693
Speaker 10: from myself and that I'm only a home kill guy.

1342
01:05:24,773 --> 01:05:28,613
Speaker 10: I'm not a retail butcher. So yeah, MPI registered and

1343
01:05:28,773 --> 01:05:34,973
Speaker 10: I provide a service for hunters and hope lifestyles, you know,

1344
01:05:35,013 --> 01:05:36,733
Speaker 10: and that sort of thing. But I don't sell meat.

1345
01:05:36,813 --> 01:05:37,853
Speaker 10: The only process.

1346
01:05:38,213 --> 01:05:40,133
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Aaron, so great to chat

1347
01:05:40,173 --> 01:05:44,253
Speaker 2: to you. So that's Aaron Puhatu p h a tu.

1348
01:05:44,413 --> 01:05:46,133
Speaker 2: Google him if you want his services.

1349
01:05:46,253 --> 01:05:49,533
Speaker 3: Yep, and his company is A plus meat processing. If

1350
01:05:49,573 --> 01:05:51,413
Speaker 3: you google that, it will pop up with his number.

1351
01:05:51,413 --> 01:05:54,293
Speaker 2: And been here Ben Ferget. It's around sixty to seven

1352
01:05:54,413 --> 01:05:59,013
Speaker 2: cent cheaper the farmer and home kill meat eater. Ben's

1353
01:05:59,053 --> 01:06:00,013
Speaker 2: has set to that.

1354
01:06:00,093 --> 01:06:02,413
Speaker 3: Through love that four bucks fifty for a kilo a

1355
01:06:02,493 --> 01:06:05,213
Speaker 3: mins the year. That's unbeatable. Oh, one hundred and eighty

1356
01:06:05,253 --> 01:06:07,133
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call if you're in

1357
01:06:07,213 --> 01:06:08,253
Speaker 3: the home kill business.

1358
01:06:08,413 --> 01:06:09,013
Speaker 5: So you do it.

1359
01:06:09,173 --> 01:06:11,093
Speaker 3: We're really keen to hear from you. Nine two ninety

1360
01:06:11,093 --> 01:06:12,173
Speaker 3: two is the number to call.

1361
01:06:12,373 --> 01:06:14,933
Speaker 2: Hey, guys, you were talking about milk earlier. Alligator milk

1362
01:06:14,933 --> 01:06:17,133
Speaker 2: would have to be some of the best expensive though,

1363
01:06:17,533 --> 01:06:19,453
Speaker 2: as it's quite hard to get hold of.

1364
01:06:19,613 --> 01:06:23,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, tough job looking an alligator nineteen to one.

1365
01:06:24,773 --> 01:06:27,133
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1366
01:06:27,253 --> 01:06:31,133
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

1367
01:06:31,173 --> 01:06:34,253
Speaker 3: They'd be afternoon. We're talking about home kill, the rise

1368
01:06:34,413 --> 01:06:36,693
Speaker 3: of people using homekill butchers with the price of meat

1369
01:06:36,773 --> 01:06:38,053
Speaker 3: at the moment. Love to hear from you on I

1370
01:06:38,133 --> 01:06:39,253
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1371
01:06:39,653 --> 01:06:42,613
Speaker 2: This text is good. Someone texts in about alligator milk before.

1372
01:06:42,693 --> 01:06:45,013
Speaker 2: This is a good joke here. Alligator milk sounds like

1373
01:06:45,053 --> 01:06:46,973
Speaker 2: a crock. That's good.

1374
01:06:47,173 --> 01:06:47,613
Speaker 3: That is good.

1375
01:06:47,653 --> 01:06:47,933
Speaker 2: That's good.

1376
01:06:47,973 --> 01:06:48,133
Speaker 5: Stuf.

1377
01:06:48,453 --> 01:06:49,413
Speaker 2: Peter, Welcome to the show.

1378
01:06:50,853 --> 01:06:51,813
Speaker 20: Yeah, how are you guys?

1379
01:06:52,453 --> 01:06:54,693
Speaker 3: Very well? So what's your thoughts about the old home kill?

1380
01:06:55,773 --> 01:06:58,613
Speaker 20: Yeah, look, I've just I'm just a lifestyler.

1381
01:06:58,893 --> 01:06:59,053
Speaker 4: Really.

1382
01:06:59,093 --> 01:07:00,773
Speaker 20: I've got a few acrees, and I've got a few sheep,

1383
01:07:00,813 --> 01:07:04,333
Speaker 20: and I've had some goats. Goat meat is what we

1384
01:07:04,453 --> 01:07:07,213
Speaker 20: eat the most of and I'm just surprised no one's

1385
01:07:07,293 --> 01:07:10,253
Speaker 20: mentioned the word goat this and then kiwis to just

1386
01:07:10,333 --> 01:07:12,053
Speaker 20: have a real trouble getting their hands on it, you know,

1387
01:07:13,133 --> 01:07:15,213
Speaker 20: or getting their mind around it. You know, what is

1388
01:07:15,333 --> 01:07:17,573
Speaker 20: the most eaten meat in the whole world?

1389
01:07:19,413 --> 01:07:19,653
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1390
01:07:19,933 --> 01:07:20,053
Speaker 11: Is it?

1391
01:07:20,893 --> 01:07:21,013
Speaker 21: Is it?

1392
01:07:21,093 --> 01:07:22,813
Speaker 3: I mean, just on the old goat because I've seen

1393
01:07:22,813 --> 01:07:24,453
Speaker 3: a few goats out in the back country when I've

1394
01:07:24,453 --> 01:07:27,053
Speaker 3: been tramping, and from what I understand, those those bear

1395
01:07:27,093 --> 01:07:29,813
Speaker 3: boys are pretty lean, you know, pretty pretty chilly. Is

1396
01:07:29,893 --> 01:07:32,453
Speaker 3: the farm goat that's that's a better eating.

1397
01:07:33,933 --> 01:07:36,253
Speaker 20: Well, you know, my hunter as well. So you know,

1398
01:07:36,373 --> 01:07:38,813
Speaker 20: you get to line up your own goat that you

1399
01:07:38,893 --> 01:07:39,613
Speaker 20: want to take out of.

1400
01:07:39,613 --> 01:07:41,733
Speaker 5: A bunch, so you don't really want to take the.

1401
01:07:41,773 --> 01:07:46,733
Speaker 20: One that's looking like it's been around, you know, twenty years. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1402
01:07:47,213 --> 01:07:49,733
Speaker 20: because they said, well, it's not about stringiness, it's more

1403
01:07:50,013 --> 01:07:53,293
Speaker 20: more about the smell of them. You can't get near them,

1404
01:07:53,333 --> 01:07:55,893
Speaker 20: you know, they just think to hey Heaven, you can't

1405
01:07:55,933 --> 01:07:58,053
Speaker 20: get within about fifty meters of them. You're just kind

1406
01:07:58,093 --> 01:08:01,133
Speaker 20: of going to run away. Yeah, but at a goat

1407
01:08:01,173 --> 01:08:02,973
Speaker 20: that's up to around two years old, I've got to

1408
01:08:03,013 --> 01:08:05,773
Speaker 20: shift background too. So I do on my own butchery

1409
01:08:05,853 --> 01:08:11,253
Speaker 20: myself mostly, you know. I take the backsteaks off the

1410
01:08:11,333 --> 01:08:15,893
Speaker 20: goat and they go into just a fry pan with

1411
01:08:16,013 --> 01:08:18,213
Speaker 20: a bit of salt and pepper, a bit of casion seasoning,

1412
01:08:18,853 --> 01:08:20,893
Speaker 20: and have a bit of chopped up mint with some

1413
01:08:21,053 --> 01:08:25,932
Speaker 20: yogurt and toothpicks. They last on my Calendra for about

1414
01:08:26,333 --> 01:08:29,772
Speaker 20: three minutes. You know, my family's eating them all.

1415
01:08:30,732 --> 01:08:32,412
Speaker 2: Well, do you do you ever run a goat a

1416
01:08:32,452 --> 01:08:33,052
Speaker 2: goat curry?

1417
01:08:34,333 --> 01:08:34,572
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1418
01:08:34,692 --> 01:08:37,293
Speaker 20: Yeah, I've got goat curry in my freezer most of

1419
01:08:37,372 --> 01:08:41,372
Speaker 20: the time and got plenty of there now it's it's delicious.

1420
01:08:41,412 --> 01:08:44,293
Speaker 20: And something about goat meat too, it doesn't have a

1421
01:08:44,412 --> 01:08:48,452
Speaker 20: fat that lamb has. And something else I was wondering

1422
01:08:49,173 --> 01:08:50,772
Speaker 20: whether we've got a minute to talk about, and that

1423
01:08:50,973 --> 01:08:56,293
Speaker 20: is antibiotics in you know, farmed a lot of farmed

1424
01:08:56,372 --> 01:09:01,093
Speaker 20: meat these days, yep, you especially. I mean I don't

1425
01:09:01,532 --> 01:09:04,412
Speaker 20: I don't know so much about the bigger animals, but

1426
01:09:04,893 --> 01:09:07,892
Speaker 20: you know, something like a chicken farm in that that's

1427
01:09:07,973 --> 01:09:11,013
Speaker 20: got twenty thirty thousand trucks on it, they get a

1428
01:09:11,093 --> 01:09:13,452
Speaker 20: couple of trucks that drop off deet or something they're

1429
01:09:13,492 --> 01:09:15,012
Speaker 20: cuick to get andy virus into.

1430
01:09:14,893 --> 01:09:15,412
Speaker 10: The whole lote.

1431
01:09:15,812 --> 01:09:18,333
Speaker 20: Yeah yeah, right, And so you know you just looked

1432
01:09:18,333 --> 01:09:21,213
Speaker 20: that up and find out that it's not that good

1433
01:09:21,253 --> 01:09:21,492
Speaker 20: for us.

1434
01:09:21,532 --> 01:09:21,732
Speaker 10: Really.

1435
01:09:22,013 --> 01:09:24,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, just going back to the goat situation, is a

1436
01:09:25,013 --> 01:09:28,173
Speaker 3: you know, as a city boy, is tar or is

1437
01:09:28,213 --> 01:09:30,173
Speaker 3: it shemy? One of those are related to the goats?

1438
01:09:30,213 --> 01:09:30,612
Speaker 10: Is that right?

1439
01:09:31,133 --> 01:09:32,772
Speaker 3: Is it Tar? I?

1440
01:09:32,933 --> 01:09:34,012
Speaker 20: Think they're both related.

1441
01:09:34,093 --> 01:09:35,253
Speaker 3: Actually, do you get any of those?

1442
01:09:36,053 --> 01:09:37,093
Speaker 8: They're both mountain goats.

1443
01:09:37,213 --> 01:09:38,852
Speaker 20: No, I haven't been down to get them.

1444
01:09:39,372 --> 01:09:41,133
Speaker 8: They're up, they're up in the South Island.

1445
01:09:41,372 --> 01:09:42,093
Speaker 17: I'm not down there.

1446
01:09:42,213 --> 01:09:43,012
Speaker 3: Sounds a hard yack.

1447
01:09:43,452 --> 01:09:46,013
Speaker 2: Thanks to Col Pete, he thinks that goat is the

1448
01:09:46,452 --> 01:09:47,372
Speaker 2: goat of meat.

1449
01:09:47,772 --> 01:09:49,372
Speaker 3: Very good, mate, very good, thank you.

1450
01:09:49,572 --> 01:09:53,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not as good as this, someone said, alligator milk.

1451
01:09:53,853 --> 01:09:55,932
Speaker 2: Sure as expensive. It'll cost you an arm and a lead.

1452
01:09:56,093 --> 01:09:58,732
Speaker 3: Keep them coming, keep them coming, people, This is good.

1453
01:09:59,812 --> 01:10:01,093
Speaker 2: Surreal, surreal chat.

1454
01:10:01,213 --> 01:10:03,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love these bed jakes. We love them all right.

1455
01:10:04,732 --> 01:10:05,893
Speaker 2: Father's down Sunday, isn't it.

1456
01:10:05,973 --> 01:10:09,093
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, good. Point one hundred and eight eighty is

1457
01:10:09,093 --> 01:10:11,732
Speaker 3: the number to call if you're into the home kill game,

1458
01:10:11,893 --> 01:10:13,612
Speaker 3: or if you're a hunter. How easy is it to

1459
01:10:13,692 --> 01:10:16,093
Speaker 3: find a butcher? Or do you do it yourself? Love

1460
01:10:16,173 --> 01:10:18,052
Speaker 3: to hear from you, Oh.

1461
01:10:18,893 --> 01:10:21,213
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1462
01:10:21,333 --> 01:10:25,253
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons news talks.

1463
01:10:25,293 --> 01:10:25,572
Speaker 10: That'd be.

1464
01:10:27,452 --> 01:10:29,572
Speaker 3: Very good. Afternoon. It is ten to three. With the

1465
01:10:29,612 --> 01:10:31,372
Speaker 3: price of meat in the supermarkets at the moment, a

1466
01:10:31,452 --> 01:10:33,652
Speaker 3: lot more people are turning to home curls. So we

1467
01:10:33,772 --> 01:10:35,372
Speaker 3: want to hear from you if that is you eight

1468
01:10:35,372 --> 01:10:36,532
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1469
01:10:36,412 --> 01:10:39,333
Speaker 2: One reason for these strict standards against home kill is

1470
01:10:39,412 --> 01:10:42,133
Speaker 2: so potentially dangerous meat doesn't find its way into restaurants

1471
01:10:42,333 --> 01:10:45,173
Speaker 2: or your local food court. Makes sense. Commercial meat works

1472
01:10:45,253 --> 01:10:48,293
Speaker 2: like MPI on site every day watching the whole process,

1473
01:10:48,412 --> 01:10:51,133
Speaker 2: and they also have independent meat and spectors on site

1474
01:10:51,173 --> 01:10:53,932
Speaker 2: through every shift making sure meat is safe. I mean yeah,

1475
01:10:54,253 --> 01:10:55,812
Speaker 2: I mean in the end. I mean if people are

1476
01:10:55,893 --> 01:10:58,572
Speaker 2: just you know, nipping the head off a cat and

1477
01:10:59,213 --> 01:11:01,253
Speaker 2: skinning it and having it through a restaurant, you don't

1478
01:11:01,253 --> 01:11:01,732
Speaker 2: want that to you.

1479
01:11:01,893 --> 01:11:04,772
Speaker 3: No, you definitely don't want that. And how are you.

1480
01:11:06,572 --> 01:11:06,692
Speaker 13: Hi?

1481
01:11:07,013 --> 01:11:10,812
Speaker 3: How are you very good? Ods? So home kurl goat meat?

1482
01:11:11,093 --> 01:11:11,732
Speaker 3: You're all for it?

1483
01:11:12,093 --> 01:11:12,253
Speaker 8: Yes?

1484
01:11:13,093 --> 01:11:16,893
Speaker 16: Yeah, we used to eat goat meat a lot. We

1485
01:11:17,013 --> 01:11:20,092
Speaker 16: had it running around the farm. They used to shoot

1486
01:11:20,333 --> 01:11:22,133
Speaker 16: mark and used to shoot them when they were young,

1487
01:11:22,732 --> 01:11:25,933
Speaker 16: about up to about two years old. Thereabout taste just

1488
01:11:26,173 --> 01:11:29,973
Speaker 16: like lamb, except it's actually better because it's not.

1489
01:11:30,013 --> 01:11:32,372
Speaker 10: As seti And so where did you?

1490
01:11:32,893 --> 01:11:35,572
Speaker 16: Also, it's also known as chevron through the.

1491
01:11:35,572 --> 01:11:38,253
Speaker 2: Butchers chevron chevron yep.

1492
01:11:39,013 --> 01:11:41,172
Speaker 3: Nice? Do you know the reason it's called chevron.

1493
01:11:42,532 --> 01:11:44,893
Speaker 16: Wouldn't have a clue, but that's I think that was

1494
01:11:45,053 --> 01:11:48,532
Speaker 16: just the given name. I know, apps make it more

1495
01:11:48,973 --> 01:11:50,452
Speaker 16: palatable to Chinese.

1496
01:11:50,772 --> 01:11:53,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the part of the goat that you like

1497
01:11:53,253 --> 01:11:53,612
Speaker 2: the most?

1498
01:11:53,732 --> 01:11:55,293
Speaker 21: And the leg?

1499
01:11:55,692 --> 01:11:58,492
Speaker 3: The leg just like a legal lamb, right lovely?

1500
01:11:59,133 --> 01:12:01,933
Speaker 16: And so I just used to roast it, so just

1501
01:12:02,093 --> 01:12:03,412
Speaker 16: exactly like you do lamb.

1502
01:12:03,812 --> 01:12:05,692
Speaker 3: And what would you put on it? So just the

1503
01:12:05,732 --> 01:12:10,372
Speaker 3: same as a lamb, you know, a bit of Rosemary's rosemary.

1504
01:12:12,013 --> 01:12:12,213
Speaker 4: Like that.

1505
01:12:13,173 --> 01:12:17,212
Speaker 2: So goat meet is called chevron, just purely for marketing reasons,

1506
01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:20,053
Speaker 2: to make it more patible, I guess. Yeah, I'm just

1507
01:12:20,133 --> 01:12:22,932
Speaker 2: looking at up actually, and you can still.

1508
01:12:22,812 --> 01:12:25,493
Speaker 16: Buy goats sausages in the supermarket.

1509
01:12:25,652 --> 01:12:29,892
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, apparently the term was coined by a commercial

1510
01:12:29,933 --> 01:12:32,852
Speaker 2: meat agency in the US, the meat and poultry farmers

1511
01:12:32,933 --> 01:12:35,572
Speaker 2: and ranches industry. So the idea was, how can we

1512
01:12:35,933 --> 01:12:38,372
Speaker 2: how can we get more goat through? How can we

1513
01:12:38,452 --> 01:12:41,692
Speaker 2: get people eating more goat? And the idea they came

1514
01:12:41,772 --> 01:12:44,772
Speaker 2: up with was to not call it goat. So I

1515
01:12:44,853 --> 01:12:48,293
Speaker 2: wonder how that's gone for them. Yeah, it's interesting that

1516
01:12:48,412 --> 01:12:51,412
Speaker 2: someone would buy something but not you know, you want

1517
01:12:51,452 --> 01:12:52,492
Speaker 2: to know what the meat is right.

1518
01:12:52,772 --> 01:12:55,052
Speaker 3: It's a smart play though, because if I saw chevron

1519
01:12:55,093 --> 01:12:57,572
Speaker 3: in the supermarket and it's just meat, unnamed meat, I'll

1520
01:12:57,572 --> 01:12:58,572
Speaker 3: be like, I'll give that a go.

1521
01:12:58,772 --> 01:13:01,173
Speaker 2: It seems I'm going to find out what a chevron is.

1522
01:13:02,572 --> 01:13:05,852
Speaker 16: Yes, if you saw, if you saw a leg of goat,

1523
01:13:05,893 --> 01:13:08,213
Speaker 16: you'd never know the difference between met and the legal

1524
01:13:09,013 --> 01:13:11,653
Speaker 16: except for the howk the hawk is a lot longer.

1525
01:13:11,933 --> 01:13:17,133
Speaker 3: Right, right, j goat meat all the way, Jamie, you're

1526
01:13:17,133 --> 01:13:17,732
Speaker 3: a bit of a hunter.

1527
01:13:19,652 --> 01:13:21,612
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a bit of a hunter. I've been doing

1528
01:13:21,612 --> 01:13:24,892
Speaker 5: it all my life basically I'm now in my late forties.

1529
01:13:24,973 --> 01:13:28,612
Speaker 5: But yeah, I just find it weird that you can't

1530
01:13:30,013 --> 01:13:33,333
Speaker 5: sell game meat but you can sell it live. Like

1531
01:13:33,412 --> 01:13:36,173
Speaker 5: I'm a guide, so I go out hunting and take

1532
01:13:36,213 --> 01:13:39,172
Speaker 5: people out and they pay for the animal they shoot basically,

1533
01:13:39,612 --> 01:13:43,092
Speaker 5: right Yeah, yeah, So I don't see what the difference

1534
01:13:43,173 --> 01:13:45,973
Speaker 5: is if you can, if you Yeah, if I can

1535
01:13:46,053 --> 01:13:50,013
Speaker 5: sell it when it's still alive and they should it,

1536
01:13:50,372 --> 01:13:52,572
Speaker 5: that's fine. But if I should it, I can't tell

1537
01:13:52,612 --> 01:13:53,013
Speaker 5: it to them.

1538
01:13:54,173 --> 01:13:54,372
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1539
01:13:54,853 --> 01:13:56,253
Speaker 3: It's a weird loophole, wasn't it?

1540
01:13:56,612 --> 01:14:00,932
Speaker 2: And the only difference. Yeah, that is an interesting one,

1541
01:14:00,973 --> 01:14:01,253
Speaker 2: isn't it.

1542
01:14:01,492 --> 01:14:03,972
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I prob they shouldn't have brought that out

1543
01:14:04,013 --> 01:14:06,852
Speaker 5: because I know doubt someone's listening, and they'll probably bring

1544
01:14:06,893 --> 01:14:07,772
Speaker 5: in a rule they will.

1545
01:14:07,692 --> 01:14:09,652
Speaker 3: Say no when they bet a bloody not, they bet

1546
01:14:09,692 --> 01:14:10,133
Speaker 3: a bloody not.

1547
01:14:10,253 --> 01:14:10,852
Speaker 6: So where do you do that?

1548
01:14:11,013 --> 01:14:13,253
Speaker 3: Where do you do the guide? Jamie? Is that down south?

1549
01:14:13,692 --> 01:14:16,772
Speaker 5: I'm just dont I want to know? You actually a

1550
01:14:16,853 --> 01:14:20,412
Speaker 5: little a little place called Mangam who probably you wouldn't

1551
01:14:20,412 --> 01:14:22,253
Speaker 5: have heard of it, Alicia, look it up?

1552
01:14:23,452 --> 01:14:25,452
Speaker 2: And and who and who do you take out? Do

1553
01:14:25,532 --> 01:14:27,852
Speaker 2: you take out? You know anyone can book you to

1554
01:14:27,893 --> 01:14:28,412
Speaker 2: take them out?

1555
01:14:29,532 --> 01:14:33,892
Speaker 5: Yeah, anybody can. Anybody can not really, I haven't advertised

1556
01:14:33,933 --> 01:14:36,093
Speaker 5: that much at the moment. I just thought I've just

1557
01:14:36,213 --> 01:14:39,852
Speaker 5: got a small crew at the moment. I'd rather keep

1558
01:14:39,893 --> 01:14:42,173
Speaker 5: it that way sort of thing. But I just I

1559
01:14:42,293 --> 01:14:44,972
Speaker 5: just thought i'd bring that up. It's just it's strange

1560
01:14:45,013 --> 01:14:48,893
Speaker 5: that you can sell the you can guide people and

1561
01:14:48,973 --> 01:14:51,293
Speaker 5: they'll pay for the animal for when they shoot them,

1562
01:14:51,812 --> 01:14:53,852
Speaker 5: and you can't sell the meat.

1563
01:14:54,812 --> 01:14:56,692
Speaker 2: Jamie. It was because I keept thinking that I'm a

1564
01:14:56,772 --> 01:14:58,692
Speaker 2: poor father because I've be't taken my son out, and

1565
01:14:58,772 --> 01:14:59,932
Speaker 2: my son's out hunting.

1566
01:15:00,093 --> 01:15:02,293
Speaker 5: So if you want to take them out get in

1567
01:15:02,412 --> 01:15:05,293
Speaker 5: touch with me. I'll give you a ball all the time.

1568
01:15:05,333 --> 01:15:07,293
Speaker 2: But yeah, carry on, and what sort of what sort

1569
01:15:07,333 --> 01:15:09,253
Speaker 2: the length trip are they? And stuff?

1570
01:15:09,412 --> 01:15:13,893
Speaker 5: Well, you know what its well, weekend trips, whatever you

1571
01:15:13,973 --> 01:15:15,492
Speaker 5: want to do most basically, mate.

1572
01:15:15,333 --> 01:15:15,772
Speaker 14: How good?

1573
01:15:15,933 --> 01:15:16,253
Speaker 2: How good?

1574
01:15:16,333 --> 01:15:16,692
Speaker 10: All right?

1575
01:15:16,853 --> 01:15:18,213
Speaker 3: So you don't need a you don't need your own

1576
01:15:18,253 --> 01:15:19,453
Speaker 3: gun or anything, Jamie.

1577
01:15:19,933 --> 01:15:22,412
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I've got my own gun that you

1578
01:15:22,492 --> 01:15:23,732
Speaker 5: can that you can use.

1579
01:15:23,853 --> 01:15:26,812
Speaker 2: And yet yeah, it's all sort of good. I'll turn

1580
01:15:26,893 --> 01:15:27,492
Speaker 2: up with my taser.

1581
01:15:28,452 --> 01:15:30,452
Speaker 3: It's going to be a good hunting trip, mate. A

1582
01:15:30,893 --> 01:15:33,052
Speaker 3: right couple of texts to the news.

1583
01:15:33,333 --> 01:15:35,892
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, we have a few sheep and a swamp

1584
01:15:36,572 --> 01:15:39,253
Speaker 2: and a ram each year to breed lambs, usually seeing

1585
01:15:39,253 --> 01:15:42,612
Speaker 2: three or four lambs per year, almost hog its size

1586
01:15:42,612 --> 01:15:45,492
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty five per lamb, sliced, and sausages

1587
01:15:45,532 --> 01:15:48,013
Speaker 2: we sell to friends at cost. I can't believe it's

1588
01:15:48,013 --> 01:15:50,972
Speaker 2: illegal to do what we do. The sausages are so lean.

1589
01:15:51,053 --> 01:15:54,253
Speaker 3: It sounds very good. And this one a hoy. Guys

1590
01:15:54,333 --> 01:15:56,852
Speaker 3: lucky enough to have a friend with a dairy farm,

1591
01:15:57,013 --> 01:16:00,293
Speaker 3: so beef got half a cow off them, one hundred

1592
01:16:00,293 --> 01:16:04,013
Speaker 3: and ten kilograms at eleven bucks a kilo mint sauces,

1593
01:16:04,173 --> 01:16:08,133
Speaker 3: mince burger, Patty Steaks. So good. Make friends with the

1594
01:16:08,173 --> 01:16:09,372
Speaker 3: far you won't regret it.

1595
01:16:09,812 --> 01:16:12,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, well i'll tell you what. People love the homekeel.

1596
01:16:12,732 --> 01:16:13,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, they absolutely do.

1597
01:16:13,853 --> 01:16:15,892
Speaker 2: We've just had hundreds and hundreds of texts and full

1598
01:16:15,973 --> 01:16:18,892
Speaker 2: lines for the whole hour. So great chat.

1599
01:16:19,053 --> 01:16:21,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, great chat. And Matt's off to have a hunting

1600
01:16:21,093 --> 01:16:22,652
Speaker 3: trip as well, so go well with that mate. Jamie

1601
01:16:22,692 --> 01:16:23,412
Speaker 3: seems like a good man.

1602
01:16:23,532 --> 01:16:26,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, make me. It's finally a proper dad. Just

1603
01:16:26,572 --> 01:16:28,452
Speaker 2: some time for Father's Day right, coming up.

1604
01:16:28,452 --> 01:16:32,372
Speaker 3: After three o'clock The exciting sports fixture of the weekend,

1605
01:16:32,532 --> 01:16:36,372
Speaker 3: All Black versus South Africa. Massive anticipation, love to hear

1606
01:16:36,412 --> 01:16:37,973
Speaker 3: from you. What way do you think it's going to go?

1607
01:16:38,253 --> 01:16:40,572
Speaker 3: And if you're a South African fan really keen to

1608
01:16:40,612 --> 01:16:43,372
Speaker 3: hear from you? Are your confident or are you nervous?

1609
01:16:43,452 --> 01:16:45,572
Speaker 3: That is coming up very shortly? New Sport and weather

1610
01:16:45,612 --> 01:16:47,412
Speaker 3: on its way. You listening to Matt and Tyler New

1611
01:16:47,492 --> 01:16:47,973
Speaker 3: Zealand of the.

1612
01:16:47,973 --> 01:16:48,812
Speaker 2: Week next.

1613
01:16:53,133 --> 01:16:56,452
Speaker 6: Your new home for insateful and it's a teening talk.

1614
01:16:56,692 --> 01:17:01,533
Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk sebby.

1615
01:17:01,853 --> 01:17:05,812
Speaker 3: Corey good afternoons. You seven pass three on a Friday afternoon. Hope,

1616
01:17:05,853 --> 01:17:08,013
Speaker 3: hopefully you're having a great day now. Just before we

1617
01:17:08,053 --> 01:17:11,412
Speaker 3: get an to the next topic, Fathers Day fast approaching.

1618
01:17:11,452 --> 01:17:13,892
Speaker 3: It's on Sunday, ken you believe it. So if you've

1619
01:17:14,013 --> 01:17:16,692
Speaker 3: waited until the last minute to get a gift for dads,

1620
01:17:17,053 --> 01:17:19,133
Speaker 3: don't stress because Matt has got you sorted. We've got

1621
01:17:19,133 --> 01:17:21,413
Speaker 3: a few downloads of his number one best selling audiobook,

1622
01:17:21,612 --> 01:17:23,812
Speaker 3: A Life Less Punishing Thirty Ways to Love the life

1623
01:17:23,853 --> 01:17:26,213
Speaker 3: You've got to give away right now. It's read by

1624
01:17:26,293 --> 01:17:28,612
Speaker 3: Matt himself. It's a great listen and an awesome book.

1625
01:17:28,732 --> 01:17:31,452
Speaker 3: It's currently available everywhere you get your audio books from,

1626
01:17:31,732 --> 01:17:35,093
Speaker 3: whether that's Apple, Spotify, Google Play, Audible, all of them.

1627
01:17:35,372 --> 01:17:37,253
Speaker 3: It's going to be a great gift for dad. If

1628
01:17:37,253 --> 01:17:39,812
Speaker 3: you've been a bit tardy so to get in the draw,

1629
01:17:39,933 --> 01:17:42,692
Speaker 3: all you've got to do right now is taxt punishing

1630
01:17:42,772 --> 01:17:45,412
Speaker 3: and your full name to nine two nine two. That's

1631
01:17:45,492 --> 01:17:47,852
Speaker 3: punishing and your full name to nine two ninety two

1632
01:17:48,093 --> 01:17:51,253
Speaker 3: and Matt will pick a few winners. Good times all right,

1633
01:17:51,333 --> 01:17:54,412
Speaker 3: looking forward to that. Right, let's have a chat about

1634
01:17:54,452 --> 01:17:58,253
Speaker 3: the All Blacks versus South Africa huge excitement ahead of

1635
01:17:58,293 --> 01:17:58,852
Speaker 3: this big match.

1636
01:17:59,093 --> 01:18:02,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and the most excitement arguably since the two

1637
01:18:02,732 --> 01:18:07,732
Speaker 2: thousand and eleven World Cup Final in terms of home games. Yeah,

1638
01:18:07,812 --> 01:18:11,532
Speaker 2: you got that fantastic record at Eden Park. Thirty one

1639
01:18:11,732 --> 01:18:17,932
Speaker 2: years since undefeated at Eden Park. It's nineteen thirty seven

1640
01:18:18,093 --> 01:18:22,452
Speaker 2: that the Springboks last one at Eden Park. It's absolutely huge.

1641
01:18:22,492 --> 01:18:25,732
Speaker 2: You feel the buzz across New Zealand about this game.

1642
01:18:26,812 --> 01:18:30,972
Speaker 2: It's tense. I'm going along you are, I'm a little

1643
01:18:31,013 --> 01:18:33,412
Speaker 2: bit I'm a little bit concerned. Yeah, you know, I

1644
01:18:33,572 --> 01:18:35,852
Speaker 2: feel in my bones that the All Blacks are going

1645
01:18:35,893 --> 01:18:38,852
Speaker 2: to win. But this is a serious challenge and how

1646
01:18:38,933 --> 01:18:43,253
Speaker 2: exciting is that to just have a serious challenge an

1647
01:18:43,572 --> 01:18:47,372
Speaker 2: ominous springs box team, the world champions coming to Eden

1648
01:18:47,492 --> 01:18:49,812
Speaker 2: Park to challenge the AB's.

1649
01:18:49,893 --> 01:18:52,013
Speaker 3: There's a spiritive energy about it, isn't it? Because it

1650
01:18:52,173 --> 01:18:55,652
Speaker 3: is a bit of a tin coin toss according to analysts.

1651
01:18:55,652 --> 01:18:57,133
Speaker 3: But kend to hear from you. I've got to say,

1652
01:18:57,532 --> 01:19:01,892
Speaker 3: I'm incredibly nervous because, like many others, long backed Scott Robertson,

1653
01:19:02,213 --> 01:19:04,892
Speaker 3: Rai's a fantastic guy. He's been up against it over

1654
01:19:04,933 --> 01:19:07,933
Speaker 3: the last couple of matches and however, it goes on

1655
01:19:07,973 --> 01:19:11,293
Speaker 3: saturdyday night. I just worry. I worry. I worry about

1656
01:19:11,333 --> 01:19:12,012
Speaker 3: poor old Razor.

1657
01:19:12,452 --> 01:19:15,652
Speaker 2: Well, this Texas, says you. Kiwi's a dreaming. The All

1658
01:19:15,692 --> 01:19:18,892
Speaker 2: Blacks are cooked. This is the changing of the guard.

1659
01:19:18,973 --> 01:19:19,892
Speaker 2: I won't bother with the exit.

1660
01:19:19,933 --> 01:19:20,452
Speaker 3: It's a good exit.

1661
01:19:20,492 --> 01:19:22,852
Speaker 2: I'm assuming. I'm assuming this is from a South Afrian.

1662
01:19:22,973 --> 01:19:24,532
Speaker 2: I know it definitely is. This is the changing of

1663
01:19:24,572 --> 01:19:26,772
Speaker 2: the Guard as the best in the world long term,

1664
01:19:27,173 --> 01:19:30,692
Speaker 2: if it isn't already decided. I'm a booker. I'm a booker.

1665
01:19:30,853 --> 01:19:32,572
Speaker 2: I'm a booker. I'm a booker. I'm a booker. I'm

1666
01:19:32,612 --> 01:19:33,932
Speaker 2: a booker. I'm a booker. I'm a booker.

1667
01:19:34,412 --> 01:19:37,812
Speaker 3: Nicely said, Yeah, that is confidence. Oh eight hundred eighty

1668
01:19:37,933 --> 01:19:40,572
Speaker 3: ten eighty. If you're a spring Box fan South African

1669
01:19:40,652 --> 01:19:43,133
Speaker 3: living in New Zealand, how confident are you? Is this

1670
01:19:44,173 --> 01:19:45,973
Speaker 3: the time that you are going to beat the All

1671
01:19:46,013 --> 01:19:49,213
Speaker 3: Blacks at Eden Park for the first time since nineteen

1672
01:19:49,293 --> 01:19:52,972
Speaker 3: thirty seven? And AB supporters out there, how you feeling excited? Nervous?

1673
01:19:53,492 --> 01:19:54,812
Speaker 3: Are the AB is going to take it out? And

1674
01:19:54,853 --> 01:19:56,333
Speaker 3: get on the phone. Oh one hundred and eighty ten

1675
01:19:56,372 --> 01:19:58,612
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call, right now though it

1676
01:19:58,853 --> 01:20:02,652
Speaker 3: is nine past three, every Friday on.

1677
01:20:02,732 --> 01:20:05,692
Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler Afternoons on News Talk ZB we name

1678
01:20:05,732 --> 01:20:07,772
Speaker 2: the New Zealander of the Week in honor that we

1679
01:20:07,893 --> 01:20:10,412
Speaker 2: bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker who has had

1680
01:20:10,412 --> 01:20:13,133
Speaker 2: an outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation as

1681
01:20:13,213 --> 01:20:17,133
Speaker 2: it forges a better and better future for all of us.

1682
01:20:17,812 --> 01:20:20,412
Speaker 2: And as always, there'll be two runners up for only

1683
01:20:20,452 --> 01:20:25,333
Speaker 2: one winner. So without further ado, the Matt and Tyler

1684
01:20:25,412 --> 01:20:32,372
Speaker 2: Afternoons New Zealer of the Week starts now. Our second

1685
01:20:32,412 --> 01:20:37,052
Speaker 2: runner up also gets the follow the Goddamn Punishing Instructions Award.

1686
01:20:37,612 --> 01:20:42,252
Speaker 2: Sweden is famous for Abba Minecraft Dynamite and their bikini

1687
01:20:42,372 --> 01:20:46,092
Speaker 2: team and a furniture store that opened in nineteen forty

1688
01:20:46,133 --> 01:20:49,093
Speaker 2: two and went on to drive people around the world

1689
01:20:49,253 --> 01:20:54,052
Speaker 2: mental with their flat pack craziness. And finally, after eighty

1690
01:20:54,213 --> 01:20:58,812
Speaker 2: one years, on December fourth, twenty twenty five, three weeks

1691
01:20:59,173 --> 01:21:02,812
Speaker 2: before Christmas, the Swedes arrive on our shores with a

1692
01:21:02,973 --> 01:21:07,692
Speaker 2: Sylvia Park store the size of three football fields. Welcome

1693
01:21:07,853 --> 01:21:12,612
Speaker 2: to New Zealand. The Swedish icon of icons are Kia.

1694
01:21:13,013 --> 01:21:15,692
Speaker 2: Day one is going to be ram and you are

1695
01:21:16,293 --> 01:21:18,812
Speaker 2: our second runner up. The New Zealander of the Week.

1696
01:21:19,013 --> 01:21:21,173
Speaker 3: Yeah bers beer, who bears gear?

1697
01:21:25,133 --> 01:21:27,053
Speaker 18: If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the

1698
01:21:27,173 --> 01:21:30,652
Speaker 18: end of it. But if you don't, I will look

1699
01:21:30,692 --> 01:21:35,772
Speaker 18: for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

1700
01:21:37,572 --> 01:21:40,652
Speaker 2: First runner up also gets the Best Dads in the

1701
01:21:40,732 --> 01:21:44,173
Speaker 2: World Award. You work so hard, you care so much,

1702
01:21:44,372 --> 01:21:46,973
Speaker 2: and all you want in return This Sunday is a

1703
01:21:47,093 --> 01:21:50,732
Speaker 2: burnt breakfast in bed, a hug from the kids, six beers,

1704
01:21:51,053 --> 01:21:54,492
Speaker 2: and our weekend on the couch watching sport Ki We dads,

1705
01:21:54,652 --> 01:21:57,892
Speaker 2: It's your day on Sunday. Love your dad. You are

1706
01:21:58,293 --> 01:22:00,372
Speaker 2: first runner up for New Zealander of.

1707
01:22:00,492 --> 01:22:05,532
Speaker 7: The Week, but there can be only one winner, and

1708
01:22:05,652 --> 01:22:07,612
Speaker 7: the winner of New Zealander of the Week also gets

1709
01:22:07,652 --> 01:22:10,572
Speaker 7: the Most Excited Home Gains Since twenty eleven Award.

1710
01:22:11,572 --> 01:22:15,732
Speaker 2: The last time we lost Betwixt your Walls. Bill Clinton

1711
01:22:15,812 --> 01:22:18,492
Speaker 2: was in the White House, Jim Bolger was our Prime

1712
01:22:18,532 --> 01:22:22,293
Speaker 2: Minister and no one had email yet the PlayStation one

1713
01:22:22,532 --> 01:22:25,772
Speaker 2: hadn't even been released. Forrest Gump was the number one

1714
01:22:25,893 --> 01:22:28,812
Speaker 2: movie at the box office, and every man, woman and

1715
01:22:28,933 --> 01:22:30,893
Speaker 2: child in the stands had a sig hanging out of

1716
01:22:30,933 --> 01:22:35,492
Speaker 2: their mouths. You are our nation's castle. The spring box.

1717
01:22:35,612 --> 01:22:38,932
Speaker 2: Haven't beaten us on your beautiful green grass since before

1718
01:22:39,093 --> 01:22:43,492
Speaker 2: World War II. Our national stadium, our fortress, a temple

1719
01:22:43,612 --> 01:22:48,652
Speaker 2: of doom for opposition for over three decades. And this Saturday,

1720
01:22:48,812 --> 01:22:51,212
Speaker 2: fifty thousand of us will pack you to the rafters,

1721
01:22:51,572 --> 01:22:54,052
Speaker 2: and millions will watch at home and in our pubs,

1722
01:22:54,133 --> 01:22:58,053
Speaker 2: bars and rugby clubs across this great nation as our

1723
01:22:58,333 --> 01:23:02,052
Speaker 2: mighty soldiers in blacks suit up and go into battle.

1724
01:23:02,692 --> 01:23:05,732
Speaker 2: But we will be challenged. And as a fan, I

1725
01:23:05,893 --> 01:23:08,652
Speaker 2: see in your eyes the same fair that we take

1726
01:23:08,732 --> 01:23:11,372
Speaker 2: the heart of me. A day may come when the

1727
01:23:11,452 --> 01:23:14,852
Speaker 2: courage of our team fails, when we forsake our friends

1728
01:23:14,933 --> 01:23:18,692
Speaker 2: and break our bonds of fellowship, an hour of wolves

1729
01:23:18,772 --> 01:23:21,972
Speaker 2: and shaded shields, when the age of the All Blacks

1730
01:23:22,013 --> 01:23:25,452
Speaker 2: record at Eden Park comes crashing down. But it is

1731
01:23:25,572 --> 01:23:30,013
Speaker 2: not this Saturday. This Saturday, we fight by all that

1732
01:23:30,133 --> 01:23:33,452
Speaker 2: we hold deer on this good earth. I bid New

1733
01:23:33,532 --> 01:23:38,412
Speaker 2: Zealand stand up and fight Eden Park. May you reign

1734
01:23:38,572 --> 01:23:40,412
Speaker 2: supreme for decades to come.

1735
01:23:40,812 --> 01:23:41,093
Speaker 4: For you.

1736
01:23:41,973 --> 01:23:46,333
Speaker 2: Ah the Matt and Tyler afternoons, New Zealander of the Week,

1737
01:23:47,133 --> 01:23:50,253
Speaker 2: go the abs, give him a taste of kiweed and

1738
01:23:50,532 --> 01:23:51,213
Speaker 2: take it away.

1739
01:23:51,333 --> 01:24:24,932
Speaker 14: Howie Morrison, Madam Taylor, U's talk said be seventeen past

1740
01:24:24,973 --> 01:24:27,452
Speaker 14: three and we are talking about that big showdown tomorrow

1741
01:24:27,572 --> 01:24:30,172
Speaker 14: night at Eden Park All Blacks versus South Africa.

1742
01:24:30,652 --> 01:24:32,412
Speaker 3: And just a heads up, we are going to chat

1743
01:24:32,452 --> 01:24:34,932
Speaker 3: with Sir Michael Jones All Blacks Great, the ice Man.

1744
01:24:35,013 --> 01:24:37,133
Speaker 3: He's going to be joining us in about fifteen minutes.

1745
01:24:37,173 --> 01:24:39,333
Speaker 3: Are looking forward to that, but ken to hear from you.

1746
01:24:39,572 --> 01:24:42,892
Speaker 3: How you feeling excited, nervous South African fans? How confident

1747
01:24:42,973 --> 01:24:45,612
Speaker 3: are you that this is the moment that you're finally

1748
01:24:45,692 --> 01:24:47,732
Speaker 3: going to beat the All Blacks at Eden Park again

1749
01:24:47,772 --> 01:24:51,133
Speaker 3: the first time since nineteen thirty seven. And AB's fans,

1750
01:24:51,173 --> 01:24:52,093
Speaker 3: how do you think it's going to go?

1751
01:24:52,853 --> 01:24:52,893
Speaker 4: This?

1752
01:24:53,093 --> 01:24:56,852
Speaker 2: Texas says the AB's will win by five points. This

1753
01:24:57,053 --> 01:24:58,772
Speaker 2: text of those they's no way the Ebbies are going

1754
01:24:58,853 --> 01:25:01,452
Speaker 2: to lose. That game might be close, but they are fitter,

1755
01:25:01,532 --> 01:25:04,532
Speaker 2: faster and will run rings around those big, heavy weighted

1756
01:25:04,652 --> 01:25:07,372
Speaker 2: South Africans. Jonathan, welcome to the show.

1757
01:25:08,452 --> 01:25:09,572
Speaker 21: I here you going, buys.

1758
01:25:10,133 --> 01:25:11,612
Speaker 2: What are you reckon about Saturday?

1759
01:25:12,652 --> 01:25:12,892
Speaker 17: Mate?

1760
01:25:12,933 --> 01:25:15,012
Speaker 21: I think that the spring Box I don't know what's

1761
01:25:15,013 --> 01:25:16,492
Speaker 21: going to have to Mate. I think the All Blacks

1762
01:25:16,532 --> 01:25:18,293
Speaker 21: are kind of the steam role of.

1763
01:25:18,333 --> 01:25:22,053
Speaker 3: My mate stall the love your confidence.

1764
01:25:22,333 --> 01:25:25,013
Speaker 21: Mate, you know, but I'll tell you something. There is

1765
01:25:25,093 --> 01:25:27,612
Speaker 21: something better than the All Black and the spring box, mate,

1766
01:25:27,652 --> 01:25:32,932
Speaker 21: and I'll tell you what that is. Then the Warriors, mate, Yeah, look,

1767
01:25:33,732 --> 01:25:35,092
Speaker 21: the All Bets and the Warriors.

1768
01:25:35,772 --> 01:25:35,972
Speaker 8: Mate.

1769
01:25:36,013 --> 01:25:39,892
Speaker 21: The Warriors have been playing so well recently, getting lost lost,

1770
01:25:40,133 --> 01:25:42,333
Speaker 21: you know, lost of the lost behind. So I think,

1771
01:25:42,572 --> 01:25:44,253
Speaker 21: you know, mat, the e Bects are going to step

1772
01:25:44,333 --> 01:25:45,492
Speaker 21: up and I think they're going to sew up that

1773
01:25:45,692 --> 01:25:47,492
Speaker 21: the Saturday seven pm and eat the park.

1774
01:25:47,612 --> 01:25:47,812
Speaker 20: Mate.

1775
01:25:48,372 --> 01:25:51,452
Speaker 2: You're right and manly, what are you reackon about? Warriors?

1776
01:25:51,492 --> 01:25:51,972
Speaker 2: Be manly?

1777
01:25:52,093 --> 01:25:54,532
Speaker 21: Then you're reckon with with Oh mate, it's gonna be

1778
01:25:54,692 --> 01:25:56,652
Speaker 21: It's gonna be a it's a tough game, you know.

1779
01:25:57,372 --> 01:25:59,772
Speaker 21: Mainly they cann't want to go out on the bank,

1780
01:25:59,933 --> 01:26:00,892
Speaker 21: you know, in this season.

1781
01:26:00,973 --> 01:26:03,412
Speaker 3: So you know, Warrior is just going to play the game.

1782
01:26:03,652 --> 01:26:04,812
Speaker 21: And you know, at the end of the day, I

1783
01:26:04,893 --> 01:26:08,692
Speaker 21: think the leadership of my years in Dame Special, She's

1784
01:26:08,732 --> 01:26:10,692
Speaker 21: really going to carry that that team through. They're going

1785
01:26:10,772 --> 01:26:13,052
Speaker 21: to get over the line. Maybe I'll give it twenty

1786
01:26:13,093 --> 01:26:14,812
Speaker 21: four to twelve, sorry for to twelve.

1787
01:26:14,893 --> 01:26:17,452
Speaker 2: Good score, Yeah, but it's a bit concerning that. They're

1788
01:26:17,572 --> 01:26:20,093
Speaker 2: wanting to give you Cheerry Evens a big send off

1789
01:26:20,253 --> 01:26:20,412
Speaker 2: you know.

1790
01:26:20,692 --> 01:26:22,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Jath, go to worry you.

1791
01:26:22,692 --> 01:26:25,973
Speaker 21: Your events is overrated. Leave to go and get a

1792
01:26:26,013 --> 01:26:29,132
Speaker 21: big Maybe he doesn't even want to play footy anymore.

1793
01:26:29,933 --> 01:26:31,812
Speaker 3: And what do you reckon for the A B South Africa?

1794
01:26:31,893 --> 01:26:33,133
Speaker 3: What's your what's your school prediction?

1795
01:26:33,572 --> 01:26:34,652
Speaker 8: That's a tough one, mate.

1796
01:26:34,692 --> 01:26:37,532
Speaker 21: Look I'm thinking I'm thinking a blowout.

1797
01:26:37,772 --> 01:26:42,812
Speaker 3: For imagine that. I hope so, Jonathan, But.

1798
01:26:42,893 --> 01:26:46,412
Speaker 8: Forty, I'm actually a time traveler.

1799
01:26:46,412 --> 01:26:47,372
Speaker 10: I'll tell you that for free.

1800
01:26:47,612 --> 01:26:49,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. Jonathan. You're a good man. Love

1801
01:26:50,013 --> 01:26:53,372
Speaker 3: your passionate love you all right, go well mate, thank you,

1802
01:26:53,812 --> 01:26:55,612
Speaker 3: thank you very much. O. One hundred and eighty ten

1803
01:26:55,652 --> 01:26:58,133
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call love to hear your

1804
01:26:58,253 --> 01:27:01,333
Speaker 3: thoughts and and your predictions for the AB's versus South Africa.

1805
01:27:01,372 --> 01:27:05,852
Speaker 2: We were talking to that woman before about her her

1806
01:27:06,293 --> 01:27:09,372
Speaker 2: home kill Lamas. Yes, and how good the neck the

1807
01:27:09,452 --> 01:27:14,452
Speaker 2: neck chops were. Yes, Yeah, Cherry Evans, Dally Cherry Evans

1808
01:27:14,452 --> 01:27:16,333
Speaker 2: would make some great neck chops. Wuldn't it? You get

1809
01:27:16,333 --> 01:27:17,732
Speaker 2: some good nick chops out of the man's not the

1810
01:27:17,772 --> 01:27:18,572
Speaker 2: tallest neck in town.

1811
01:27:18,692 --> 01:27:21,133
Speaker 3: You get a lot of meat on that neck right, Oh,

1812
01:27:21,213 --> 01:27:23,412
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1813
01:27:23,452 --> 01:27:25,333
Speaker 3: in South African fans love to hear from you. How

1814
01:27:25,372 --> 01:27:28,492
Speaker 3: are you feeling really keen to have a chat?

1815
01:27:28,692 --> 01:27:29,093
Speaker 10: Coming up?

1816
01:27:29,133 --> 01:27:31,812
Speaker 3: We are going to catch up with Newstalk's edb's Voice

1817
01:27:31,853 --> 01:27:34,173
Speaker 3: of Rugby Elliot Smith to get his thoughts. So that

1818
01:27:34,293 --> 01:27:37,012
Speaker 3: is coming up very shortly. It is twenty past three.

1819
01:27:40,853 --> 01:27:44,492
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1820
01:27:44,572 --> 01:27:46,173
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talks.

1821
01:27:46,013 --> 01:27:50,053
Speaker 3: EDB, News Talks EDB. So excitement levels and nerves are

1822
01:27:50,133 --> 01:27:53,052
Speaker 3: high ahead of the much anticipated All Blacks versus South

1823
01:27:53,093 --> 01:27:56,412
Speaker 3: Africa match at eden Park's Saturday night News Talks. Edb's

1824
01:27:56,692 --> 01:27:59,293
Speaker 3: voice of Rugby, Elliott Smith, will be commentating and he

1825
01:27:59,412 --> 01:28:00,932
Speaker 3: joins us now, kiddo mate.

1826
01:28:00,772 --> 01:28:05,893
Speaker 2: Afternoon, guys, hugely exciting. I'm hugely excited. How important is

1827
01:28:06,013 --> 01:28:08,612
Speaker 2: this All Blacks unbeaten record at eden Park and what

1828
01:28:08,692 --> 01:28:11,492
Speaker 2: will it mean to the nation and the All Blacks

1829
01:28:11,973 --> 01:28:12,893
Speaker 2: if we should lose it.

1830
01:28:14,213 --> 01:28:16,812
Speaker 22: I think it's very important, but you've also got to

1831
01:28:16,812 --> 01:28:19,972
Speaker 22: be realistic at some point, whether it's tomorrow night, whether

1832
01:28:20,093 --> 01:28:23,333
Speaker 22: it is in five years time, three weeks time against

1833
01:28:23,333 --> 01:28:25,492
Speaker 22: the Wallabies, whatever it might be, the record will go.

1834
01:28:25,772 --> 01:28:28,213
Speaker 22: But it feels like with each passing test that the

1835
01:28:28,253 --> 01:28:31,293
Speaker 22: All Blacks have protected it. The myth has grown, the

1836
01:28:31,372 --> 01:28:34,452
Speaker 22: mystique around Eden Park has grown, and that is imposing

1837
01:28:34,532 --> 01:28:37,293
Speaker 22: for opposition teams. But it's also I guess a bit

1838
01:28:37,293 --> 01:28:39,972
Speaker 22: of a millstone for the All Blacks that they carry

1839
01:28:40,053 --> 01:28:42,452
Speaker 22: this into each game they play at eden Park. Fifty

1840
01:28:42,532 --> 01:28:46,732
Speaker 22: games without defeat, thirty one years without defeat at eden Park.

1841
01:28:46,853 --> 01:28:48,973
Speaker 22: So at some point it's going to go. But I

1842
01:28:49,053 --> 01:28:51,173
Speaker 22: think it is a you know, it's a record that

1843
01:28:51,213 --> 01:28:54,252
Speaker 22: you want to protect as much as possible. The Springboks

1844
01:28:54,293 --> 01:28:56,253
Speaker 22: have got allis Park themselves. They lost their a couple

1845
01:28:56,293 --> 01:28:59,412
Speaker 22: of weeks ago to Australia. That's important. Every country sort

1846
01:28:59,452 --> 01:29:01,452
Speaker 22: of has one of those. And when you can buy

1847
01:29:01,572 --> 01:29:03,412
Speaker 22: the All Blacks and they're winning record over a number

1848
01:29:03,412 --> 01:29:07,452
Speaker 22: of years and Eden Park, it is fiercely low and

1849
01:29:07,572 --> 01:29:11,253
Speaker 22: in some ways it's why Eden Park remains that, you know,

1850
01:29:11,532 --> 01:29:14,052
Speaker 22: the number one stadium in Auckland and any talk about

1851
01:29:14,093 --> 01:29:16,972
Speaker 22: another stadium has sort of been quiet ANDed down because

1852
01:29:17,093 --> 01:29:19,012
Speaker 22: everyone wants this record to continue.

1853
01:29:19,612 --> 01:29:22,893
Speaker 2: So do you think that that record as an advantage

1854
01:29:23,053 --> 01:29:25,852
Speaker 2: to the All Blacks or to South Africa in terms

1855
01:29:25,853 --> 01:29:26,772
Speaker 2: of mindset, I.

1856
01:29:26,772 --> 01:29:29,053
Speaker 22: Think it's an advantage to the All Blacks and all hones.

1857
01:29:29,093 --> 01:29:32,093
Speaker 22: Stuff feels like a bit of an invincibility cloak. And

1858
01:29:32,173 --> 01:29:34,612
Speaker 22: whether that happens tomorrow night and whether it comes to pass,

1859
01:29:34,692 --> 01:29:37,333
Speaker 22: but it feels like, you know, they go in knowing

1860
01:29:37,492 --> 01:29:40,253
Speaker 22: that it is a fearsome place for players to come.

1861
01:29:41,053 --> 01:29:43,612
Speaker 22: You know, New Zealand's not great at creating atmosphere in

1862
01:29:43,692 --> 01:29:47,173
Speaker 22: the stands, but it is imposing nonetheless, when you see

1863
01:29:47,853 --> 01:29:50,972
Speaker 22: fifty thousand jerseys in black and that the pressure coming

1864
01:29:51,053 --> 01:29:53,213
Speaker 22: on and you know a lot of these players in

1865
01:29:53,253 --> 01:29:55,732
Speaker 22: the spring box haven't played at Eden Park.

1866
01:29:55,893 --> 01:29:56,133
Speaker 4: She's on.

1867
01:29:56,213 --> 01:29:59,412
Speaker 22: Kolby's been around for more than a decade across Super Rugby,

1868
01:29:59,452 --> 01:30:01,892
Speaker 22: didn't play there in Super Rugby's at a test Korea

1869
01:30:01,973 --> 01:30:04,372
Speaker 22: where he's won two Rugby World Cups. Never played at

1870
01:30:04,492 --> 01:30:06,772
Speaker 22: Eden Park. So for a lot of these South Africans

1871
01:30:06,812 --> 01:30:08,053
Speaker 22: it is going to be their first time at the

1872
01:30:08,093 --> 01:30:08,852
Speaker 22: ving tomorrow night.

1873
01:30:09,293 --> 01:30:10,812
Speaker 2: You can feel it in the air, you can feel

1874
01:30:10,853 --> 01:30:17,333
Speaker 2: the excitement absolutely, But is it, as people have been saying,

1875
01:30:17,853 --> 01:30:20,492
Speaker 2: the most important home game in New Zealand since the

1876
01:30:20,572 --> 01:30:22,972
Speaker 2: twenty eleven Rugby World Cup Final.

1877
01:30:23,173 --> 01:30:25,532
Speaker 22: I think it is in all honesty. You can probably

1878
01:30:25,572 --> 01:30:27,452
Speaker 22: look back to the Lions in twenty seventeen and that

1879
01:30:27,612 --> 01:30:30,452
Speaker 22: decided there. But this is the old foe. This is

1880
01:30:30,492 --> 01:30:33,452
Speaker 22: South Africa. This is a team that rivalry goes back

1881
01:30:33,853 --> 01:30:36,812
Speaker 22: one hundred years plus of playing South Africa. Aarrans why

1882
01:30:36,853 --> 01:30:40,412
Speaker 22: they're reinstating the tours from next year. This is the

1883
01:30:40,452 --> 01:30:42,852
Speaker 22: old foe. This isn't a team that's made up seven

1884
01:30:42,893 --> 01:30:44,732
Speaker 22: or eight weeks beforehand like the Lions. And I think

1885
01:30:44,772 --> 01:30:46,933
Speaker 22: that's why it means so much. And you throw in

1886
01:30:47,053 --> 01:30:49,812
Speaker 22: the rivalry, you throw in Eden Park, you throw in

1887
01:30:50,412 --> 01:30:53,333
Speaker 22: Ardie Saviga is one hundredth Yeah, I think it does

1888
01:30:53,492 --> 01:30:56,013
Speaker 22: all that up to being the biggest test ince the

1889
01:30:56,053 --> 01:30:58,572
Speaker 22: twenty eleven World Cup Final. There were thirty plus journalists

1890
01:30:58,572 --> 01:31:01,372
Speaker 22: at the media session for Scott Robertson yesterday. There's a

1891
01:31:01,412 --> 01:31:03,692
Speaker 22: real sense in the air that something big is happening.

1892
01:31:03,732 --> 01:31:03,893
Speaker 4: To me.

1893
01:31:04,452 --> 01:31:07,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's have a talk about Scott Robertson, one of

1894
01:31:07,452 --> 01:31:10,253
Speaker 3: the hardest in the country being the All Blacks coach.

1895
01:31:10,452 --> 01:31:12,372
Speaker 3: How do you think he's feeling is the pressure on

1896
01:31:12,612 --> 01:31:14,452
Speaker 3: Razor and his other coaching staff as well.

1897
01:31:14,572 --> 01:31:14,692
Speaker 8: Well.

1898
01:31:14,732 --> 01:31:16,532
Speaker 22: He's been quick this week and he's been asked about

1899
01:31:16,572 --> 01:31:18,412
Speaker 22: the pressure that he's feeling and trying to turn that

1900
01:31:18,492 --> 01:31:20,652
Speaker 22: into a positive. If you didn't have nerves, if you

1901
01:31:20,732 --> 01:31:23,852
Speaker 22: weren't feeling the fear of losing, then you're in the

1902
01:31:23,893 --> 01:31:26,013
Speaker 22: wrong job. So he's tried to turn that as much

1903
01:31:26,093 --> 01:31:28,492
Speaker 22: into a positive as you possibly can be. But no

1904
01:31:28,572 --> 01:31:32,293
Speaker 22: doubt he'll be feeling the pressure. He's coming off a

1905
01:31:32,372 --> 01:31:34,293
Speaker 22: loss and now has to go to Eden Park and

1906
01:31:34,333 --> 01:31:37,133
Speaker 22: beat the reigning world champion, so the heat will be on.

1907
01:31:37,293 --> 01:31:40,612
Speaker 22: Andy've had Sir Graham Henry in camp this week way

1908
01:31:40,612 --> 01:31:43,093
Speaker 22: and Smith's been there as well, just making sure that

1909
01:31:43,253 --> 01:31:46,092
Speaker 22: all the eyes that dotted the teaser cross and sweeping

1910
01:31:46,133 --> 01:31:48,173
Speaker 22: through and going if you thought about this, what about this?

1911
01:31:48,333 --> 01:31:50,173
Speaker 22: And I think that's an ultimately good thing for the

1912
01:31:50,213 --> 01:31:51,812
Speaker 22: coach because you might go, actually, no, I didn't think

1913
01:31:51,853 --> 01:31:54,732
Speaker 22: about this. Let's try and implement this come Saturday night

1914
01:31:54,772 --> 01:31:56,692
Speaker 22: as well. No doubt he's feeling the pressure, but as

1915
01:31:56,732 --> 01:31:59,012
Speaker 22: I say, he's tried to flip that into a positive

1916
01:31:59,053 --> 01:32:00,532
Speaker 22: as much as possible this week.

1917
01:32:01,013 --> 01:32:03,973
Speaker 2: Now, speaking of losses, who has momentum coming into this

1918
01:32:04,053 --> 01:32:08,733
Speaker 2: game considering South Aflica got humiliated at Ellis Park, Westralia.

1919
01:32:08,973 --> 01:32:10,652
Speaker 2: No one thought that was going to happen, and then

1920
01:32:10,692 --> 01:32:13,172
Speaker 2: of course what happened to the All Blacks with Los Pumas.

1921
01:32:13,612 --> 01:32:15,372
Speaker 2: So who has the momentum?

1922
01:32:15,572 --> 01:32:17,973
Speaker 22: Maybe South Africa, just because they've got a lot of

1923
01:32:18,053 --> 01:32:21,052
Speaker 22: that World Championship winning team still with them from twenty

1924
01:32:21,133 --> 01:32:25,652
Speaker 22: twenty three. Hondred Pollard's at ten, Si Callis's playing tomorrow night,

1925
01:32:25,692 --> 01:32:28,772
Speaker 22: but isn't the captain. All through that team are veterans

1926
01:32:28,812 --> 01:32:30,812
Speaker 22: that know those big game moments. You look at the

1927
01:32:30,893 --> 01:32:33,732
Speaker 22: All Blacks and they're building towards twenty twenty seven. For

1928
01:32:33,933 --> 01:32:36,213
Speaker 22: South Africa, it still feels like they've got twenty twenty

1929
01:32:36,293 --> 01:32:39,372
Speaker 22: three and hanging on without wanting to be disrespectful because

1930
01:32:39,372 --> 01:32:41,412
Speaker 22: you've got great players in there, but they have that

1931
01:32:41,532 --> 01:32:44,092
Speaker 22: World Cup winning experience, whereas the All Blacks are building

1932
01:32:44,173 --> 01:32:47,092
Speaker 22: towards the World Cup. So I think in terms of momentum,

1933
01:32:47,293 --> 01:32:48,293
Speaker 22: you have to give it to the box.

1934
01:32:48,412 --> 01:32:50,253
Speaker 2: So you think the hype around South Africa is real

1935
01:32:50,293 --> 01:32:51,972
Speaker 2: because when you look at that World Cup, we're talking

1936
01:32:52,053 --> 01:32:55,173
Speaker 2: three points as what got them the World Cup and

1937
01:32:56,133 --> 01:32:57,852
Speaker 2: in the final one point they're on the.

1938
01:32:57,893 --> 01:33:01,213
Speaker 22: Right side of those three points, you know against France

1939
01:33:01,253 --> 01:33:03,253
Speaker 22: and the quarter against England, the cemi against the All

1940
01:33:03,253 --> 01:33:05,932
Speaker 22: Blacks in the final it was one point. But they're

1941
01:33:05,973 --> 01:33:07,492
Speaker 22: on the right side of the ledger each time and

1942
01:33:07,572 --> 01:33:09,213
Speaker 22: that takes, you know, takes a lot.

1943
01:33:09,492 --> 01:33:12,532
Speaker 2: And finally, so South Africa threw it around against Australia

1944
01:33:12,572 --> 01:33:14,293
Speaker 2: a little bit and got punished for it. So what

1945
01:33:14,412 --> 01:33:17,652
Speaker 2: are we going to see, specially considering our problems under

1946
01:33:17,652 --> 01:33:20,013
Speaker 2: the high ball in Argentina, what are we going to

1947
01:33:20,053 --> 01:33:21,052
Speaker 2: see from South Africa?

1948
01:33:21,093 --> 01:33:22,692
Speaker 3: I don't think there'll be a lot of throwing it around.

1949
01:33:25,333 --> 01:33:25,492
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1950
01:33:25,532 --> 01:33:28,133
Speaker 22: Tony Brown's voice at the Springbox team meetings this week

1951
01:33:28,213 --> 01:33:30,253
Speaker 22: might have been sort of drowned out by Russy Erasmus

1952
01:33:30,333 --> 01:33:34,173
Speaker 22: going Nope, we're going one way, singular ball in the air,

1953
01:33:34,412 --> 01:33:37,772
Speaker 22: using our forwards and playing that spring Box mentality that

1954
01:33:37,853 --> 01:33:39,612
Speaker 22: we know. So the All Blacks they know what's coming.

1955
01:33:39,652 --> 01:33:42,412
Speaker 22: They're going to be peppered under the high ball all

1956
01:33:42,532 --> 01:33:46,012
Speaker 22: night tomorrow night. It's how they respond. And the pressure

1957
01:33:46,213 --> 01:33:48,093
Speaker 22: obviously is on the All Blacks and that they've got

1958
01:33:48,133 --> 01:33:49,612
Speaker 22: to try and throw that back at the spring Box.

1959
01:33:49,893 --> 01:33:51,652
Speaker 2: How are you calling it? I'm going to say right now,

1960
01:33:51,812 --> 01:33:53,213
Speaker 2: I think the All Blacks are going to win this.

1961
01:33:53,532 --> 01:33:56,133
Speaker 2: I've got that feeling before. We've felt like this at

1962
01:33:56,213 --> 01:33:58,812
Speaker 2: Eton Park. But I just think that coming in there

1963
01:33:59,053 --> 01:34:01,572
Speaker 2: and the All Blacks, and I think losing against Argentina

1964
01:34:01,812 --> 01:34:04,852
Speaker 2: as a thing, sure, but I just I feel it

1965
01:34:04,933 --> 01:34:06,412
Speaker 2: in my bones that we're going to have it.

1966
01:34:06,532 --> 01:34:08,732
Speaker 22: I started the week saying all Blacks by fire, and

1967
01:34:08,812 --> 01:34:12,412
Speaker 22: I've decreased that by a point every day now at.

1968
01:34:12,333 --> 01:34:14,093
Speaker 3: All Blacks by two, So we'll take it.

1969
01:34:14,572 --> 01:34:15,652
Speaker 22: It's still an All Blacks one.

1970
01:34:15,853 --> 01:34:19,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, lovelyly Elliott, enjoy it, mate, line of excitement and

1971
01:34:19,572 --> 01:34:22,293
Speaker 3: everybody's looking forward to that. So the coverage starts at

1972
01:34:22,333 --> 01:34:24,652
Speaker 3: six pm and it's going to be live here on

1973
01:34:24,732 --> 01:34:27,412
Speaker 3: News Talks, A B and gold Sport. Enjoy it, mate.

1974
01:34:27,452 --> 01:34:29,412
Speaker 3: I'll be listening and go, well, can't wait. Thank you guys.

1975
01:34:29,973 --> 01:34:32,732
Speaker 2: I'll be watching you from your right where my seats are.

1976
01:34:32,812 --> 01:34:34,092
Speaker 2: When you're calling, I'll give you away.

1977
01:34:34,973 --> 01:34:37,972
Speaker 3: Goom mand. That is Elliot Smith, Newstalks, hed Be's Voice

1978
01:34:37,973 --> 01:34:40,173
Speaker 3: of Rugby. You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Hope you're

1979
01:34:40,173 --> 01:34:41,412
Speaker 3: having a great afternoon.

1980
01:34:43,692 --> 01:34:44,213
Speaker 2: Youth talk.

1981
01:34:44,293 --> 01:34:47,932
Speaker 12: Said the headlines with Blue Bubble Taxis it's no trouble

1982
01:34:48,013 --> 01:34:51,412
Speaker 12: with a Blue bubble. The Senior Doctors Union is rejecting

1983
01:34:51,492 --> 01:34:54,692
Speaker 12: the Health Minister's call for arbitration and accusing him of

1984
01:34:54,772 --> 01:34:59,893
Speaker 12: illegally intervening in negotiations. The Association of Salaried Medical Specialists

1985
01:34:59,933 --> 01:35:03,892
Speaker 12: says the Minister's actions are highly unusual and breach employment law.

1986
01:35:04,973 --> 01:35:07,732
Speaker 12: In Melbourne courts denied bail for a New Zealand born

1987
01:35:07,812 --> 01:35:11,772
Speaker 12: neo null See leader. The National Socialist Network leader Thomas Suele,

1988
01:35:11,893 --> 01:35:15,293
Speaker 12: is facing twenty five offenses, including an alleged attack with

1989
01:35:15,452 --> 01:35:20,012
Speaker 12: thirty others on an Aboriginal protest site. LISA are increasing

1990
01:35:20,053 --> 01:35:23,532
Speaker 12: their presence around christ Church after an unsuccessful attempt to

1991
01:35:23,612 --> 01:35:26,932
Speaker 12: start a fire at a local gangpad this morning. Flammable

1992
01:35:27,013 --> 01:35:29,612
Speaker 12: objects were thrown at a fence on Cuff's Road just

1993
01:35:29,732 --> 01:35:33,293
Speaker 12: before eight am. Springs arrived in the South Island with

1994
01:35:33,372 --> 01:35:36,973
Speaker 12: a roller coaster of weather including thunderstorms, heavy rain and

1995
01:35:37,133 --> 01:35:40,013
Speaker 12: strong wind. Warnings are in place for the Canterbury Headwaters

1996
01:35:40,053 --> 01:35:42,652
Speaker 12: for the next couple of ours, while the snow warning's

1997
01:35:42,692 --> 01:35:45,893
Speaker 12: been issued for Lewis and Arthur's Pass. And this is

1998
01:35:45,893 --> 01:35:48,572
Speaker 12: how we should build New Zealand's future hospitals. See the

1999
01:35:48,772 --> 01:35:50,933
Speaker 12: full column at enns Aed Herald Premium. Now back to

2000
01:35:51,013 --> 01:35:52,213
Speaker 12: Matteith and Tyler Adams.

2001
01:35:52,372 --> 01:35:55,333
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Scarlett. So it is twenty seven

2002
01:35:55,372 --> 01:35:57,612
Speaker 3: to four in my O. My, we've had so many

2003
01:35:57,732 --> 01:36:00,692
Speaker 3: pationate techs come flooding into the text machine from South

2004
01:36:00,732 --> 01:36:04,452
Speaker 3: African fans and All Black fans, and we're going to

2005
01:36:04,532 --> 01:36:07,213
Speaker 3: get to a few of those very shortly. And just

2006
01:36:07,293 --> 01:36:10,293
Speaker 3: a reminder, so Michael Jones, one of our greatest ever

2007
01:36:10,412 --> 01:36:14,412
Speaker 3: All Blacks, will be joining us in about seven minutes time,

2008
01:36:14,492 --> 01:36:16,692
Speaker 3: so looking forward to having a chat with him. Right now.

2009
01:36:16,893 --> 01:36:24,333
Speaker 3: It is twenty seven to four, Tayloradas. So, Greg was

2010
01:36:24,412 --> 01:36:26,892
Speaker 3: we is an All Black supervan. He's about to take

2011
01:36:26,933 --> 01:36:30,133
Speaker 3: off a mass of milestone as an All Black spectator

2012
01:36:30,173 --> 01:36:33,133
Speaker 3: and he joins us on the line. Now, kid a, Greg, Hey,

2013
01:36:33,293 --> 01:36:33,892
Speaker 3: how's it going?

2014
01:36:34,333 --> 01:36:38,093
Speaker 2: So this will be your hundredth All Blacks Test on

2015
01:36:38,173 --> 01:36:39,052
Speaker 2: Saturday night.

2016
01:36:39,973 --> 01:36:42,652
Speaker 23: Yes, one hundredth Test match, and so I'm treating as

2017
01:36:42,692 --> 01:36:43,492
Speaker 23: one hundredth cap.

2018
01:36:43,933 --> 01:36:47,013
Speaker 2: Fantastic that what one hundredth cap it is too, you know,

2019
01:36:47,333 --> 01:36:51,293
Speaker 2: arguably the most significant game home game since twenty eleven

2020
01:36:51,772 --> 01:36:54,772
Speaker 2: World Cup Final. What was your first test? Greg?

2021
01:36:55,812 --> 01:37:00,053
Speaker 23: Yes, it was way back in July nineteen ninety five

2022
01:37:00,893 --> 01:37:03,532
Speaker 23: was actually Eden Park. Was a young whippersnapper back then,

2023
01:37:03,652 --> 01:37:07,132
Speaker 23: so seventeen years of age, and I still remember catching

2024
01:37:07,173 --> 01:37:12,133
Speaker 23: the supporters bus up from Harboro and Taranaki and making

2025
01:37:12,213 --> 01:37:14,612
Speaker 23: it through sitting on the old terraces at eden Park.

2026
01:37:14,812 --> 01:37:17,692
Speaker 23: So I just felt like yesterday. So fast forward thirty

2027
01:37:17,772 --> 01:37:18,692
Speaker 23: years and I'm here today.

2028
01:37:19,013 --> 01:37:23,092
Speaker 2: Yeah, so ninety five that's just inside the current unbeaten

2029
01:37:23,213 --> 01:37:26,932
Speaker 2: record of thirty one years at eden Park. So when

2030
01:37:26,973 --> 01:37:29,213
Speaker 2: did the hundredth Test start to become into view as

2031
01:37:29,213 --> 01:37:32,253
Speaker 2: an idea sort of You've clocked up thirty forty at

2032
01:37:32,293 --> 01:37:33,692
Speaker 2: some point you must have thinking, you know, I'm going

2033
01:37:33,732 --> 01:37:34,372
Speaker 2: to make the ton here.

2034
01:37:35,692 --> 01:37:38,293
Speaker 23: Yeah, I'm an old tragic from wayback, so it was

2035
01:37:38,333 --> 01:37:42,893
Speaker 23: probably early two thousands I kicked off spreadsheet. So the

2036
01:37:42,973 --> 01:37:50,933
Speaker 23: spreadsheets that's actually quite elaborate now with all the results, locations, stadiums,

2037
01:37:51,053 --> 01:37:53,013
Speaker 23: and I've got some pre cool pivot tables sitting over

2038
01:37:53,053 --> 01:37:56,652
Speaker 23: the top of it now. And I've I've got a

2039
01:37:56,692 --> 01:38:00,333
Speaker 23: pretty a pretty awesome man cave back at home and so,

2040
01:38:00,652 --> 01:38:02,772
Speaker 23: and I've always collected my match tickets and most of

2041
01:38:02,812 --> 01:38:04,812
Speaker 23: them are all framed up in my cave. So you

2042
01:38:04,893 --> 01:38:06,173
Speaker 23: have plenty of great memories there.

2043
01:38:06,532 --> 01:38:09,212
Speaker 2: How good? And what are some of the most memorable

2044
01:38:09,333 --> 01:38:10,572
Speaker 2: tests that you've attended?

2045
01:38:10,812 --> 01:38:15,133
Speaker 23: Greg, Maybe for the wrong reasons, I go back to

2046
01:38:15,173 --> 01:38:17,812
Speaker 23: the two thousand and three Rugby World Cup in Sydney,

2047
01:38:18,133 --> 01:38:22,932
Speaker 23: some some bad memories back there against Without a doubt,

2048
01:38:23,013 --> 01:38:27,093
Speaker 23: the two thy eleven final in Auckland was right up

2049
01:38:27,133 --> 01:38:29,812
Speaker 23: there with the best. Actually, I really loved the experience

2050
01:38:29,893 --> 01:38:32,692
Speaker 23: in Chicago when we played Ireland. Might have been a loss,

2051
01:38:32,732 --> 01:38:37,612
Speaker 23: but that experience was like top shelf Hong Kong was awesome.

2052
01:38:37,652 --> 01:38:40,532
Speaker 23: The Bleeder is low up there and obviously going to

2053
01:38:40,572 --> 01:38:43,532
Speaker 23: twicken him as well, you know, obviously get a win

2054
01:38:43,572 --> 01:38:46,772
Speaker 23: against the English as always top shelf in their backyard,

2055
01:38:47,452 --> 01:38:49,892
Speaker 23: and going to Cardiff as well against the Welsh.

2056
01:38:50,452 --> 01:38:53,013
Speaker 5: It's just amazing, amazing atmosphere there.

2057
01:38:53,293 --> 01:38:55,933
Speaker 2: Now, Greg, you said that you've got a spreadsheet and

2058
01:38:56,053 --> 01:38:59,972
Speaker 2: it's pretty detailed. What are your stats looking right, win, loss, etc.

2059
01:39:01,853 --> 01:39:05,333
Speaker 23: Yeah, it's pretty good without a doubt. If I look

2060
01:39:05,372 --> 01:39:07,973
Speaker 23: at some of the negative numbers, Wellington's been a bit

2061
01:39:07,973 --> 01:39:13,532
Speaker 23: of a gatard for me with four loss. On the

2062
01:39:13,612 --> 01:39:17,852
Speaker 23: positive side, thankfully, Eden park one hundred per win ratio,

2063
01:39:19,093 --> 01:39:23,772
Speaker 23: plenty of losses in Sydney, a handful down at Melbourne. Yeah,

2064
01:39:23,973 --> 01:39:27,013
Speaker 23: the I think the average score is about thirty two

2065
01:39:27,133 --> 01:39:31,612
Speaker 23: points to seventeen. Yeah, so obviously in favor of the

2066
01:39:31,652 --> 01:39:33,412
Speaker 23: All Blacks there not bad.

2067
01:39:33,612 --> 01:39:37,732
Speaker 2: And what are the celebrations looking like for your big day?

2068
01:39:38,173 --> 01:39:40,973
Speaker 2: I understand Zidara getting behind you.

2069
01:39:42,053 --> 01:39:45,133
Speaker 23: Yeah, they absolutely amazing. They've really gone way above the

2070
01:39:45,213 --> 01:39:48,932
Speaker 23: call of duty. So we've got the Captain's run coming

2071
01:39:49,013 --> 01:39:52,692
Speaker 23: up later today and we've actually we've got a capping

2072
01:39:52,772 --> 01:39:57,253
Speaker 23: ceremony with one hundredth caps, so hopefully I don't jinx

2073
01:39:57,333 --> 01:40:01,253
Speaker 23: that I'm celebrating a bit too early. And then got

2074
01:40:01,293 --> 01:40:05,012
Speaker 23: a dinner book tonight with with twenty two friends coming

2075
01:40:05,013 --> 01:40:09,013
Speaker 23: along here in the city. And then apparently I've got

2076
01:40:09,013 --> 01:40:10,812
Speaker 23: a little surprise waiting for me.

2077
01:40:10,853 --> 01:40:11,532
Speaker 5: At Eden Park.

2078
01:40:12,013 --> 01:40:13,452
Speaker 8: Wow the game tomorrow night.

2079
01:40:13,612 --> 01:40:17,492
Speaker 23: So yeah, I'll tell you. Everything's just been amazing and

2080
01:40:17,732 --> 01:40:20,412
Speaker 23: the build up's been awesome. As soon as I knew

2081
01:40:20,452 --> 01:40:24,412
Speaker 23: what the draw was late last year, I started meticulously planning.

2082
01:40:24,293 --> 01:40:25,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, well good on you, Greg.

2083
01:40:26,173 --> 01:40:29,253
Speaker 3: What an awesome guy that is Greg Wasley, all Black

2084
01:40:29,293 --> 01:40:32,253
Speaker 3: super fan about to take off a massive milestone spectating

2085
01:40:32,372 --> 01:40:35,492
Speaker 3: is one hundred All Blacks Tess match on Saturday. How

2086
01:40:35,572 --> 01:40:39,572
Speaker 3: good coming up All Blacks? Great? Sir Michael Jones joins us.

2087
01:40:39,812 --> 01:40:41,093
Speaker 3: It is twenty two to four.

2088
01:40:44,253 --> 01:40:47,572
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls

2089
01:40:47,652 --> 01:40:51,253
Speaker 1: on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk said,

2090
01:40:51,333 --> 01:40:52,852
Speaker 1: be it is twenty to four.

2091
01:40:53,013 --> 01:40:55,772
Speaker 3: So what can we expect or hope for on Saturday

2092
01:40:55,853 --> 01:40:58,132
Speaker 3: night as the All Blacks face off with South Africa?

2093
01:40:58,253 --> 01:41:01,772
Speaker 3: Huge anticipation, huge match. Sir Michael Jones is one of

2094
01:41:01,853 --> 01:41:04,852
Speaker 3: our greatest All Blacks and has given an enormous amount

2095
01:41:04,893 --> 01:41:07,652
Speaker 3: back to the sporting and PACIFICA communities as well. And

2096
01:41:07,812 --> 01:41:11,213
Speaker 3: Sir Mike joins us on the phone right now, very

2097
01:41:11,253 --> 01:41:12,053
Speaker 3: good afternoons you.

2098
01:41:13,492 --> 01:41:17,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt and Tyler, Hey, thanks so much for thanks

2099
01:41:17,412 --> 01:41:19,293
Speaker 2: for so much talking to us. It's awesome to have

2100
01:41:19,372 --> 01:41:20,852
Speaker 2: you on the show. Why do you think it's so

2101
01:41:20,933 --> 01:41:22,452
Speaker 2: hard to beat the All Blacks at Eaton Park?

2102
01:41:26,372 --> 01:41:30,852
Speaker 24: Well, certainly that Leaden Park is it's got a certain

2103
01:41:30,933 --> 01:41:34,732
Speaker 24: mistique and that you know it is for us New

2104
01:41:34,853 --> 01:41:37,253
Speaker 24: Zealand rugby plays and particularly those are spot the All Blacks.

2105
01:41:37,253 --> 01:41:39,852
Speaker 24: That is the field of dreams. I mean it's always

2106
01:41:39,893 --> 01:41:43,372
Speaker 24: been that for me, and I know that you know,

2107
01:41:43,973 --> 01:41:48,812
Speaker 24: there's a there's a certain wonder about that space in place,

2108
01:41:48,893 --> 01:41:51,772
Speaker 24: particularly when the All Blacks are playing, So you know,

2109
01:41:51,853 --> 01:41:55,213
Speaker 24: when we have our our people there and and and

2110
01:41:55,333 --> 01:41:58,492
Speaker 24: it's packed and it's full, and it's particularly in a

2111
01:41:59,173 --> 01:42:01,093
Speaker 24: or anytime as a day, but on those sort of

2112
01:42:01,973 --> 01:42:06,013
Speaker 24: cooler wintry evenings, which is probably going to be a

2113
01:42:06,053 --> 01:42:09,372
Speaker 24: game tomorrow night, there's something about it. It just has

2114
01:42:09,612 --> 01:42:16,412
Speaker 24: a certain you know, sort of spiritual sort of energy

2115
01:42:16,532 --> 01:42:18,572
Speaker 24: and presence and it works in our favor. And I

2116
01:42:18,612 --> 01:42:21,173
Speaker 24: think there's All Blacks we've just learned how to use

2117
01:42:21,213 --> 01:42:24,652
Speaker 24: it to our best advantage and optimize and capitalize on

2118
01:42:24,732 --> 01:42:27,133
Speaker 24: that advantage. And that's just something that the All Blacks

2119
01:42:27,173 --> 01:42:30,052
Speaker 24: had done really well for, you know, for these gets,

2120
01:42:30,093 --> 01:42:31,652
Speaker 24: for these you know, three odd decades.

2121
01:42:32,293 --> 01:42:34,892
Speaker 2: And speaking of Manor, you've famously scored the opening try

2122
01:42:34,933 --> 01:42:36,612
Speaker 2: against the spring Box and the first day of a

2123
01:42:36,692 --> 01:42:39,053
Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup match in nineteen ninety seven. What's it

2124
01:42:39,253 --> 01:42:41,812
Speaker 2: like playing the spring Box compared to other teams.

2125
01:42:43,452 --> 01:42:45,253
Speaker 24: Yeah, I mean it's always been you know, I know

2126
01:42:45,372 --> 01:42:47,253
Speaker 24: for me growing up in sort of the seventies, and

2127
01:42:47,772 --> 01:42:50,133
Speaker 24: I was provisibly part of that first of all Black

2128
01:42:50,173 --> 01:42:53,492
Speaker 24: team that went back in ninety three, not sorry, ninety two,

2129
01:42:54,572 --> 01:42:58,372
Speaker 24: you know sort of post you know, post post the

2130
01:42:58,372 --> 01:43:02,173
Speaker 24: apartheid period and where we had been sort of you know,

2131
01:43:02,853 --> 01:43:05,253
Speaker 24: there was no contact mug be sporting contact for the

2132
01:43:05,293 --> 01:43:06,932
Speaker 24: rest of the world, and we the All Blecks hadn't

2133
01:43:06,933 --> 01:43:09,772
Speaker 24: been back in an official anyway. So I was part

2134
01:43:09,812 --> 01:43:11,892
Speaker 24: of that. And I think most of us who walked

2135
01:43:11,893 --> 01:43:15,812
Speaker 24: off that plane fort of you know, touching South Aurrafkan

2136
01:43:15,853 --> 01:43:17,812
Speaker 24: sas like probably heard many of us say that we

2137
01:43:17,933 --> 01:43:19,932
Speaker 24: used to sort of kissed the kiss the ground, because

2138
01:43:20,812 --> 01:43:25,133
Speaker 24: that's always been for us. For me growing up and

2139
01:43:25,492 --> 01:43:29,013
Speaker 24: watching Sir Ron Williams playing them and that sort of

2140
01:43:29,053 --> 01:43:33,933
Speaker 24: shady black and white footage in the seventies, it was

2141
01:43:34,013 --> 01:43:36,852
Speaker 24: always pinnacle and I suppose the benchmark in terms of,

2142
01:43:37,652 --> 01:43:40,293
Speaker 24: you know, really what was the toughest team to play

2143
01:43:40,333 --> 01:43:43,692
Speaker 24: and particularly when you played there, you know, the toughest

2144
01:43:43,772 --> 01:43:46,972
Speaker 24: environment to play. And I don't think that's changed for anything.

2145
01:43:47,053 --> 01:43:50,213
Speaker 24: That's become even more so and become more entrenched.

2146
01:43:51,133 --> 01:43:54,093
Speaker 2: So back to Saturday, do you think we're ready for

2147
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Speaker 2: the inevitable high ball assault that's coming our way?

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01:43:58,933 --> 01:44:01,732
Speaker 24: Yeah, I know that's been an area that you know,

2149
01:44:01,812 --> 01:44:03,852
Speaker 24: we've been sort of putting a little more pressure on

2150
01:44:03,933 --> 01:44:07,732
Speaker 24: our back three in particular, and or anyone under the

2151
01:44:07,853 --> 01:44:11,612
Speaker 24: high boards secure. And yeah, I'm sure it's going to

2152
01:44:11,652 --> 01:44:14,213
Speaker 24: come our way. That you know, they play in Russia.

2153
01:44:14,293 --> 01:44:18,572
Speaker 24: Risthmus is obviously one of the most innovative, creative, outside

2154
01:44:18,612 --> 01:44:23,852
Speaker 24: the box type you know, coaches and strategic minds around rugby,

2155
01:44:24,053 --> 01:44:28,253
Speaker 24: world rugby. And and he'll he'll he'll be wanting to

2156
01:44:28,253 --> 01:44:31,652
Speaker 24: exploit every weakness he season. I think it's coming, but

2157
01:44:31,853 --> 01:44:34,572
Speaker 24: I'm sure that and I feel confident. I'd like to

2158
01:44:34,612 --> 01:44:37,572
Speaker 24: feel very confident that our boys have been working hard

2159
01:44:37,612 --> 01:44:39,492
Speaker 24: at that. You know, we're one thing about the All Blacks.

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01:44:39,492 --> 01:44:42,372
Speaker 24: We're really good at, you know, working at at the

2161
01:44:42,452 --> 01:44:45,653
Speaker 24: areas that we need to sort out. I know sometimes

2162
01:44:45,973 --> 01:44:50,732
Speaker 24: we feel that it should happen yesterday, but I think

2163
01:44:50,772 --> 01:44:53,852
Speaker 24: it's you know, in terms of the personnel we've got

2164
01:44:53,893 --> 01:44:57,333
Speaker 24: back there now, and obviously you know Will and and

2165
01:44:57,452 --> 01:45:01,293
Speaker 24: Money and and and Rico, you know, even Billy and Jordie.

2166
01:45:01,333 --> 01:45:03,452
Speaker 24: I think I think, I think they're going to be

2167
01:45:03,652 --> 01:45:07,133
Speaker 24: really ready for it. And I think again we're going

2168
01:45:07,213 --> 01:45:09,572
Speaker 24: to have to turn something that the opposition sees into

2169
01:45:09,652 --> 01:45:12,452
Speaker 24: weaknesses and strength and I'm confident we'll do that and

2170
01:45:12,812 --> 01:45:16,012
Speaker 24: with that that that's again sort of been the platform

2171
01:45:16,093 --> 01:45:18,732
Speaker 24: on which we can we win tests. Aditon Park.

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01:45:19,333 --> 01:45:21,772
Speaker 3: We are chatting to All Blacks, great to Michael Jones,

2173
01:45:21,853 --> 01:45:24,572
Speaker 3: Micael review felt and it seems to be a lot

2174
01:45:24,612 --> 01:45:26,892
Speaker 3: of anticipation, a lot of excitement, a lot of energy.

2175
01:45:26,933 --> 01:45:30,053
Speaker 3: Everybody is talking about this game. Are you feeling that

2176
01:45:30,133 --> 01:45:33,053
Speaker 3: out in the community, that hype and that's electricity out there?

2177
01:45:34,173 --> 01:45:37,932
Speaker 24: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, you know that out number one

2178
01:45:37,973 --> 01:45:40,492
Speaker 24: in the world. I know that day there's a bit

2179
01:45:40,532 --> 01:45:43,572
Speaker 24: of spluttering with the playing the Aussies, but we know

2180
01:45:43,652 --> 01:45:46,133
Speaker 24: that when they come and play us, whether it's here

2181
01:45:46,253 --> 01:45:49,812
Speaker 24: or there, this is what this is the pinnacle for

2182
01:45:49,893 --> 01:45:52,852
Speaker 24: them too. And it's such a hearty respect between the

2183
01:45:52,893 --> 01:45:55,893
Speaker 24: spring Bocks and the All Blacks. And you know, I

2184
01:45:56,013 --> 01:45:58,333
Speaker 24: think again in terms of the share combat and the

2185
01:45:58,812 --> 01:46:03,133
Speaker 24: mental and physical and then every way test of your

2186
01:46:03,213 --> 01:46:06,093
Speaker 24: mental as an All Black, there's nothing like playing the

2187
01:46:06,652 --> 01:46:09,893
Speaker 24: spring Box and that's the same for them. So you

2188
01:46:10,013 --> 01:46:11,692
Speaker 24: sort of sense that out there, you know, just people

2189
01:46:11,732 --> 01:46:15,133
Speaker 24: are talking about it. You know, people are excited about it,

2190
01:46:15,293 --> 01:46:19,133
Speaker 24: and I think again, it just really captures the imagination

2191
01:46:19,293 --> 01:46:22,933
Speaker 24: of the rugby public, because yeah, there's something about that

2192
01:46:23,253 --> 01:46:26,692
Speaker 24: sort of you know, dark green jersey with those gold

2193
01:46:26,772 --> 01:46:29,972
Speaker 24: collars and white shots going against the all blacks. Nothing

2194
01:46:30,093 --> 01:46:33,412
Speaker 24: like it. Yeah, there absolutely is such a real excitement

2195
01:46:33,452 --> 01:46:36,732
Speaker 24: around the around the around the place, and that's great

2196
01:46:36,732 --> 01:46:39,452
Speaker 24: for rugby. And it's going to be an amazing night.

2197
01:46:40,253 --> 01:46:44,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's exciting and terrifying. Now, So Michael, I'm

2198
01:46:44,412 --> 01:46:46,492
Speaker 2: going to put you on the spot here, which way

2199
01:46:46,532 --> 01:46:49,093
Speaker 2: do you think it's going? And are you willing to

2200
01:46:49,412 --> 01:46:51,732
Speaker 2: make a points prediction for Saturday night?

2201
01:46:55,532 --> 01:46:59,612
Speaker 24: You know, I just know with Ardise hundredth schame, I

2202
01:46:59,772 --> 01:47:02,093
Speaker 24: just don't sense that our boys will let them down

2203
01:47:02,173 --> 01:47:05,293
Speaker 24: and let us down. I mean, you know we I

2204
01:47:05,372 --> 01:47:08,572
Speaker 24: think I think they they're they're acutely aware of of

2205
01:47:08,692 --> 01:47:10,652
Speaker 24: what it means to be playing at the fortress and

2206
01:47:10,772 --> 01:47:14,572
Speaker 24: defending that tradition, you know, that legacy of those have

2207
01:47:14,692 --> 01:47:17,372
Speaker 24: gone before the war in the black jersey. And again,

2208
01:47:17,893 --> 01:47:23,293
Speaker 24: Idea epitomizes that and he he, you know, he symbolizes

2209
01:47:23,333 --> 01:47:30,173
Speaker 24: everything that's right and good and and I suppose that

2210
01:47:30,412 --> 01:47:33,652
Speaker 24: is absolutely embodied and the values and the standards of

2211
01:47:33,772 --> 01:47:37,452
Speaker 24: your black jersey. So what's that sort of a long

2212
01:47:37,492 --> 01:47:40,253
Speaker 24: winded refy. I was, I was, I was, I was

2213
01:47:40,293 --> 01:47:44,253
Speaker 24: biting for time. But yeah, we're gonna, we're willin, we'll win.

2214
01:47:45,933 --> 01:47:48,412
Speaker 24: I'd like to think between five and seven points, and

2215
01:47:48,692 --> 01:47:50,253
Speaker 24: we'll be happy for at one point when of course,

2216
01:47:50,333 --> 01:47:53,892
Speaker 24: but hey, let's let's I'm feeling good about tomorrow night

2217
01:47:53,933 --> 01:47:56,933
Speaker 24: and the fact that you know there's there's something to

2218
01:47:57,093 --> 01:48:00,652
Speaker 24: really celebrate and and really play for. It's always a

2219
01:48:00,732 --> 01:48:03,573
Speaker 24: case for any All Black tests, but against the Springbrocks

2220
01:48:03,612 --> 01:48:07,452
Speaker 24: Addington Park at ease hundredths, that's that's the way I'm going.

2221
01:48:07,692 --> 01:48:10,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, he lover when by five to seven points would

2222
01:48:10,652 --> 01:48:13,133
Speaker 3: be amazing. Sir Michael, thank you very much for having

2223
01:48:13,173 --> 01:48:14,452
Speaker 3: a chat with us. Really enjoyed it.

2224
01:48:16,372 --> 01:48:18,372
Speaker 24: My chis thanks thanks Toner.

2225
01:48:18,572 --> 01:48:22,133
Speaker 3: That is Sir Michael Jones ahead of the massive match

2226
01:48:22,492 --> 01:48:25,093
Speaker 3: against the All Blacks in South Africa Eden Park tomorrow nights.

2227
01:48:25,293 --> 01:48:28,012
Speaker 2: What a legend this Texas says, how did you muppets

2228
01:48:28,053 --> 01:48:30,532
Speaker 2: get the great Sir Michael Jones on your show? Awesome?

2229
01:48:30,652 --> 01:48:32,253
Speaker 3: We don't know. I know it's a good question.

2230
01:48:32,372 --> 01:48:35,053
Speaker 2: And another text feel that man's mana.

2231
01:48:35,053 --> 01:48:38,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, an amazing man. So many texts have

2232
01:48:38,492 --> 01:48:40,932
Speaker 3: come through ahead of the game. This one says, kddy

2233
01:48:40,973 --> 01:48:44,372
Speaker 3: guys ex All Blacks fan here. When Razor threw a

2234
01:48:44,452 --> 01:48:47,213
Speaker 3: pick me or house during the Boys World Cup last year,

2235
01:48:47,253 --> 01:48:50,372
Speaker 3: that was uncool. So go South Africa. If you want

2236
01:48:50,412 --> 01:48:54,933
Speaker 3: to see exciting rugby rugby, watch as Ozzie's Joe Wallaby's

2237
01:48:54,933 --> 01:48:56,732
Speaker 3: team party at Tony Brown's.

2238
01:48:57,412 --> 01:48:58,933
Speaker 2: I live in New Zealand, but I grew up in

2239
01:48:58,973 --> 01:49:01,452
Speaker 2: South Africa and all I can say is go the

2240
01:49:01,772 --> 01:49:04,293
Speaker 2: All Blacks. This Texas said the last time the spring

2241
01:49:04,333 --> 01:49:07,213
Speaker 2: Box played at Eden Park was twenty thirteen. Why are

2242
01:49:07,253 --> 01:49:09,293
Speaker 2: you emitting that fact? What do you mean in missing

2243
01:49:09,333 --> 01:49:13,133
Speaker 2: that fact? You don't list every single fixture? I think

2244
01:49:13,532 --> 01:49:16,333
Speaker 2: so the last time they won is nineteen thirty seven. Yeah,

2245
01:49:16,412 --> 01:49:19,333
Speaker 2: all right, exactly take that text at Eden Park. Yeah,

2246
01:49:20,053 --> 01:49:20,452
Speaker 2: this one.

2247
01:49:20,692 --> 01:49:23,053
Speaker 3: I would love to see the All Blacks win, but

2248
01:49:23,133 --> 01:49:26,173
Speaker 3: I think the Box might just take it out. I

2249
01:49:26,293 --> 01:49:29,253
Speaker 3: hope not. I'd rather the Wallabi Wallabes beat us first

2250
01:49:29,452 --> 01:49:31,852
Speaker 3: and then the spring Box at Eden Park. I reckon

2251
01:49:31,933 --> 01:49:34,692
Speaker 3: it's going to be twenty five to thirty to the Box.

2252
01:49:34,893 --> 01:49:36,412
Speaker 2: This one says the All Blacks are going to lose

2253
01:49:36,492 --> 01:49:40,452
Speaker 2: because Tyler pronounces rugby Rubby. I don't know if that

2254
01:49:40,572 --> 01:49:41,213
Speaker 2: does that does that?

2255
01:49:41,652 --> 01:49:43,012
Speaker 3: I mean, it can't help things.

2256
01:49:43,053 --> 01:49:44,892
Speaker 2: I mean, you're a powerful you're a powerful man.

2257
01:49:45,013 --> 01:49:47,133
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's gonna gonna change. I mean,

2258
01:49:47,173 --> 01:49:49,213
Speaker 3: if already heard me say Rubby, I don't think it's

2259
01:49:49,213 --> 01:49:50,293
Speaker 3: going to matter one iota.

2260
01:49:50,412 --> 01:49:52,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd be like, I don't care if it's one hundredth.

2261
01:49:52,253 --> 01:49:53,412
Speaker 3: It was, say, who's that tyler? Guy?

2262
01:49:53,452 --> 01:49:57,133
Speaker 2: Who cares? I can't take the weight of a pronunciation

2263
01:49:57,293 --> 01:49:57,732
Speaker 2: of rugby.

2264
01:49:58,492 --> 01:50:00,732
Speaker 3: There's a lot of Wallabees supporters coming through. The Wallabies

2265
01:50:00,772 --> 01:50:03,652
Speaker 3: gave the Box the run arounds in the Abs players

2266
01:50:03,692 --> 01:50:05,452
Speaker 3: are twice as good. It's going to be an absolute

2267
01:50:05,532 --> 01:50:08,293
Speaker 3: walk over the All Blacks by twenty points.

2268
01:50:09,133 --> 01:50:11,972
Speaker 2: Boys. I understand why we're nervous because we just lost

2269
01:50:12,013 --> 01:50:14,253
Speaker 2: to Argentina, But how the Box just lost one to

2270
01:50:14,293 --> 01:50:17,612
Speaker 2: Ozzie and we're lucky it wasn't too Why are they

2271
01:50:17,772 --> 01:50:19,812
Speaker 2: so damned? Confidence is Dave?

2272
01:50:20,013 --> 01:50:20,173
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2273
01:50:20,173 --> 01:50:21,372
Speaker 3: I love it right?

2274
01:50:22,093 --> 01:50:24,452
Speaker 2: The six says you. You lads know the all Whites

2275
01:50:24,452 --> 01:50:26,973
Speaker 2: are playing Australia tonight and the soccer ashes. Don't you

2276
01:50:27,013 --> 01:50:27,973
Speaker 2: Whinn't you're talking about that?

2277
01:50:28,293 --> 01:50:28,452
Speaker 1: Well?

2278
01:50:28,893 --> 01:50:31,293
Speaker 2: We all because we read that out bakely. But we've

2279
01:50:31,372 --> 01:50:34,412
Speaker 2: chosen to talk about the All Blacks on on a

2280
01:50:34,732 --> 01:50:38,133
Speaker 2: Saturday night because it's the most exciting home game of

2281
01:50:38,933 --> 01:50:43,213
Speaker 2: rugby in this country since twenty eleven Rugby World Cup Final.

2282
01:50:43,333 --> 01:50:45,253
Speaker 2: It beats the beats the lines.

2283
01:50:45,853 --> 01:50:48,692
Speaker 3: This is hugely excited, absolutely fizzing for it. Right it

2284
01:50:49,053 --> 01:50:51,692
Speaker 3: is nine minutes to four. Back very surely you're listening

2285
01:50:51,732 --> 01:50:52,773
Speaker 3: to Matt and Tyler.

2286
01:50:53,333 --> 01:50:56,732
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2287
01:50:57,093 --> 01:50:58,012
Speaker 1: everything in between.

2288
01:50:58,253 --> 01:51:01,173
Speaker 6: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used talks.

2289
01:51:01,213 --> 01:51:01,492
Speaker 4: It be.

2290
01:51:03,013 --> 01:51:06,213
Speaker 3: News talks, it be. It is six to four.

2291
01:51:06,772 --> 01:51:09,293
Speaker 2: Saying so much for listening to the show this afternoon.

2292
01:51:09,372 --> 01:51:11,452
Speaker 2: How great was it to have Sir Michael Jones on

2293
01:51:11,572 --> 01:51:13,852
Speaker 2: the show. What a great New Zealander heres, And thank

2294
01:51:13,933 --> 01:51:17,213
Speaker 2: you so much for all your texts and calls of

2295
01:51:17,372 --> 01:51:18,652
Speaker 2: the duration of the week.

2296
01:51:19,053 --> 01:51:21,173
Speaker 3: Now we love our callers, of course we don't. We

2297
01:51:21,572 --> 01:51:23,093
Speaker 3: like to celebrate with a call of the week, and

2298
01:51:23,173 --> 01:51:25,333
Speaker 3: this week we had such a great hour talking about

2299
01:51:25,372 --> 01:51:27,412
Speaker 3: what dads really wanted Father's Day that we did things

2300
01:51:27,492 --> 01:51:30,333
Speaker 3: a little bit differently to recognize the bloody great dads

2301
01:51:30,372 --> 01:51:30,892
Speaker 3: in our lives.

2302
01:51:31,333 --> 01:51:33,093
Speaker 10: The best thing for me is just time with my

2303
01:51:33,213 --> 01:51:35,452
Speaker 10: son and he's twenty hours and you know we get

2304
01:51:35,492 --> 01:51:37,612
Speaker 10: to play golf for well, you know, don't have a

2305
01:51:37,692 --> 01:51:39,812
Speaker 10: drink or a meal, And I reckon, it's just the

2306
01:51:39,853 --> 01:51:40,333
Speaker 10: best thing ever.

2307
01:51:40,652 --> 01:51:42,732
Speaker 8: I enjoy every day working up to post my kids.

2308
01:51:43,173 --> 01:51:45,452
Speaker 8: That's Father's Day for me. I don't put a lot

2309
01:51:45,492 --> 01:51:48,173
Speaker 8: of credence on material stuff.

2310
01:51:48,213 --> 01:51:50,732
Speaker 5: It's just about spending time with my kids and men

2311
01:51:50,812 --> 01:51:53,173
Speaker 5: wanting to spend time with me, giving.

2312
01:51:53,053 --> 01:51:55,933
Speaker 8: Back to them and letting them know on there for

2313
01:51:56,013 --> 01:51:57,333
Speaker 8: them no matter what happened.

2314
01:51:57,572 --> 01:51:58,572
Speaker 15: That's what a dad does.

2315
01:51:58,893 --> 01:52:01,932
Speaker 13: A sleep and a burnt breakfast and my bed reflection

2316
01:52:02,093 --> 01:52:03,173
Speaker 13: of craft bears.

2317
01:52:03,173 --> 01:52:05,372
Speaker 8: And then me and my mates are going out for

2318
01:52:05,412 --> 01:52:07,293
Speaker 8: a game of goal. All all of our mates did

2319
01:52:07,412 --> 01:52:09,253
Speaker 8: used to part from my own friend and his wife

2320
01:52:09,293 --> 01:52:10,932
Speaker 8: if he has to spend the day with the kids.

2321
01:52:11,013 --> 01:52:12,333
Speaker 17: So I have this thing.

2322
01:52:12,412 --> 01:52:14,612
Speaker 24: When I have a birthday, it's called birthday month, so

2323
01:52:15,173 --> 01:52:16,812
Speaker 24: I figured it should be Father's weekend.

2324
01:52:16,933 --> 01:52:19,293
Speaker 5: I reckon while making the top four.

2325
01:52:19,213 --> 01:52:23,372
Speaker 20: Friday Night Abs beating the box Liam podium at Monza

2326
01:52:23,973 --> 01:52:25,773
Speaker 20: and the Bengals beating the Brown.

2327
01:52:25,812 --> 01:52:28,213
Speaker 5: And I wouldn't care if the kids bacon and.

2328
01:52:30,652 --> 01:52:31,333
Speaker 24: Obviously happy.

2329
01:52:31,612 --> 01:52:33,652
Speaker 8: It's going to be my first Father's Day on Sunday,

2330
01:52:33,853 --> 01:52:34,452
Speaker 8: But I sort.

2331
01:52:34,333 --> 01:52:36,052
Speaker 11: Of just treat it the way I drink my birthday.

2332
01:52:36,053 --> 01:52:39,612
Speaker 11: I don't really like anything extravagant my birthday, just something simple,

2333
01:52:39,732 --> 01:52:41,892
Speaker 11: like maybe even to the game you can play online

2334
01:52:41,933 --> 01:52:44,772
Speaker 11: with the boys, and even better the free time to

2335
01:52:44,853 --> 01:52:47,013
Speaker 11: actually plan it without being bothered. I did love what

2336
01:52:47,133 --> 01:52:49,133
Speaker 11: the previous call is said as well, like spending time

2337
01:52:49,213 --> 01:52:51,813
Speaker 11: with my son. It's going to be something I'm definitely.

2338
01:52:51,492 --> 01:52:53,372
Speaker 13: Keen to do as the years go by.

2339
01:52:54,133 --> 01:52:56,772
Speaker 3: A man emotional stark man, that's hard.

2340
01:52:57,213 --> 01:53:00,412
Speaker 2: Happy Father's Day till all the fathers and a wind Saturday,

2341
01:53:00,452 --> 01:53:02,293
Speaker 2: and it would be a good start to the celebrations.

2342
01:53:02,612 --> 01:53:04,692
Speaker 2: Absolutelyful Matt and ty laughter. This podcast will be out

2343
01:53:04,692 --> 01:53:06,652
Speaker 2: and about now, so if you're missing about great chats,

2344
01:53:07,293 --> 01:53:09,452
Speaker 2: tune into that where you get your Pard's the powerful

2345
01:53:09,652 --> 01:53:11,732
Speaker 2: Hitherdically Slander is up next. But why am I playing

2346
01:53:11,772 --> 01:53:12,133
Speaker 2: this song?

2347
01:53:12,293 --> 01:53:15,653
Speaker 3: My good friend, oh the great Scribe. He is retiring,

2348
01:53:15,772 --> 01:53:19,172
Speaker 3: but not before he releases one more album called Scribe

2349
01:53:19,492 --> 01:53:21,652
Speaker 3: is Dead. Good canted, good Rugby fan.

2350
01:53:21,973 --> 01:53:25,092
Speaker 2: Yep, he's unsubscribing from his career.

2351
01:53:25,293 --> 01:53:27,852
Speaker 3: Very good mate, well done, all right, all right, go

2352
01:53:27,973 --> 01:53:28,612
Speaker 3: to the abs.

2353
01:53:29,173 --> 01:53:31,532
Speaker 2: And give him a taste at Kiwi. Thanks for listening,

2354
01:53:31,612 --> 01:53:34,133
Speaker 2: and we'll see you on Monday afternoon.

2355
01:53:35,812 --> 01:53:39,092
Speaker 3: That many, if Anny, that many, if any.

2356
01:53:39,572 --> 01:53:42,933
Speaker 8: You know caupskin going like this, stick it.

2357
01:53:42,973 --> 01:53:44,892
Speaker 5: Out, check it out.

2358
01:53:45,372 --> 01:53:46,492
Speaker 2: Do please give it up.

2359
01:53:48,853 --> 01:53:49,173
Speaker 10: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: That's all you come to, mother.

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Speaker 2: Do please give it up.

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Speaker 7: Oh, thank you.

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