1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,587 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from News Talks B. 3 00:00:12,707 --> 00:00:15,347 Speaker 2: The Black Ferns will open their w x V one 4 00:00:15,467 --> 00:00:18,787 Speaker 2: program tomorrow. They take on Ireland three o'clock tomorrow afternoon 5 00:00:18,787 --> 00:00:21,587 Speaker 2: New Zealand time in Vancouver. It'll be their first match 6 00:00:21,627 --> 00:00:24,667 Speaker 2: since they're clash with England at Twickenham earlier in the month. 7 00:00:25,387 --> 00:00:28,067 Speaker 3: It's going to be to go long back talk is 8 00:00:28,107 --> 00:00:30,787 Speaker 3: in the ransom the change says. 9 00:00:30,667 --> 00:00:35,267 Speaker 2: For England to stop this in fac says, well, be does. 10 00:00:37,467 --> 00:00:38,347 Speaker 3: For Black Ferns. 11 00:00:38,507 --> 00:00:40,587 Speaker 2: Funny that way a little more in the second half, 12 00:00:40,707 --> 00:00:47,587 Speaker 2: free the place and choices, but it's the English Red 13 00:00:47,707 --> 00:00:50,747 Speaker 2: Roses did it. John the job again. Black Ferns assistant 14 00:00:50,787 --> 00:00:53,467 Speaker 2: coach Mike Delaney is with us out of Vancouver. Mike, 15 00:00:53,507 --> 00:00:55,707 Speaker 2: thanks for your time. Let's look back to that game 16 00:00:55,747 --> 00:00:58,107 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. What were your main takeaways 17 00:00:58,107 --> 00:01:01,307 Speaker 2: from that defeat to England at Twickenham. 18 00:01:01,387 --> 00:01:04,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if we've credit a lot of opportunities 19 00:01:04,467 --> 00:01:06,387 Speaker 3: and then put ourselves in a really good position to 20 00:01:06,427 --> 00:01:08,187 Speaker 3: put points on earlier, but you know it didn't come 21 00:01:08,227 --> 00:01:11,787 Speaker 3: out of points and then just some little areas, you know, 22 00:01:11,907 --> 00:01:14,107 Speaker 3: just not executing let us down at it, so we've 23 00:01:14,107 --> 00:01:16,387 Speaker 3: had to focus on making sure we tided those areas up. 24 00:01:16,987 --> 00:01:19,947 Speaker 2: What is that What does that focus on taking opportunities 25 00:01:19,987 --> 00:01:22,307 Speaker 2: better look like? Is it just being a bit more clinical? 26 00:01:22,387 --> 00:01:24,347 Speaker 2: What sort of things you are you trying to impart 27 00:01:24,387 --> 00:01:25,587 Speaker 2: to the team? 28 00:01:26,107 --> 00:01:27,867 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably being a bit more clinical. You know, we 29 00:01:27,907 --> 00:01:30,187 Speaker 3: had a few line breaks that we didn't capitalize on, 30 00:01:30,267 --> 00:01:34,707 Speaker 3: and you know, coming all away in that twenty two, Yeah, 31 00:01:34,787 --> 00:01:36,867 Speaker 3: really important that we actually come with points in that 32 00:01:36,947 --> 00:01:38,507 Speaker 3: part of the field and just be more clinical in 33 00:01:38,547 --> 00:01:41,827 Speaker 3: those areas. And yeah, just a bit of our skill 34 00:01:41,867 --> 00:01:44,747 Speaker 3: sets clean us down. And but you know, we know 35 00:01:44,787 --> 00:01:47,427 Speaker 3: that was that the ability to bake them when they 36 00:01:47,507 --> 00:01:49,147 Speaker 3: need to such a matter provement together. 37 00:01:49,467 --> 00:01:51,347 Speaker 2: I guess you don't want to look too far ahead. 38 00:01:51,547 --> 00:01:53,987 Speaker 2: You do have them again though in a week or so. 39 00:01:54,947 --> 00:01:56,707 Speaker 2: Have you managed to put them off to one side 40 00:01:56,747 --> 00:01:59,907 Speaker 2: and focus fully on the challenge that Ireland will present 41 00:01:59,947 --> 00:02:00,147 Speaker 2: to you? 42 00:02:01,747 --> 00:02:04,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, and soon we even you know, we haven't really 43 00:02:04,547 --> 00:02:08,187 Speaker 3: spoken about anything further than Ilan and you know they've 44 00:02:08,187 --> 00:02:11,947 Speaker 3: done extremely well to you know, shift up the have 45 00:02:12,107 --> 00:02:15,107 Speaker 3: the rankings here and then joining us in the WXV stuff, 46 00:02:15,147 --> 00:02:18,787 Speaker 3: and you know they're a great win against Australia and 47 00:02:18,907 --> 00:02:20,507 Speaker 3: you know, from what we've seen that's going to be 48 00:02:20,547 --> 00:02:22,107 Speaker 3: you know, a great challenge for us to get out 49 00:02:22,147 --> 00:02:24,227 Speaker 3: there and put a performance and that we're proud of. 50 00:02:24,587 --> 00:02:27,547 Speaker 2: You've only ever played them twice before, the Black Ferns, 51 00:02:27,587 --> 00:02:29,667 Speaker 2: I mean, and last time was twenty sixteen, which is 52 00:02:29,707 --> 00:02:32,227 Speaker 2: long ago enough to really be a little bit irrelevant. 53 00:02:32,627 --> 00:02:35,547 Speaker 2: Have you managed to glean a little bit of information 54 00:02:35,627 --> 00:02:37,067 Speaker 2: about them? 55 00:02:38,027 --> 00:02:40,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did a you know obviously, you know they've 56 00:02:41,467 --> 00:02:43,707 Speaker 3: really grinned their game with effect that the Six Nations 57 00:02:43,707 --> 00:02:47,187 Speaker 3: competition really sets them up in the Northern hemisphere and 58 00:02:47,227 --> 00:02:49,387 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's good for us to come across 59 00:02:49,427 --> 00:02:52,107 Speaker 3: those kind of teams a different style and you know 60 00:02:52,147 --> 00:02:55,667 Speaker 3: they'll be but unpredictable for us, you know, not not 61 00:02:55,747 --> 00:02:58,347 Speaker 3: seeing too much of them. But yeah, we just need 62 00:02:58,347 --> 00:03:01,667 Speaker 3: to worry about us and then the simple things really well, a. 63 00:03:01,707 --> 00:03:04,987 Speaker 2: Raft of changes to the Black Ferns in the starting 64 00:03:05,027 --> 00:03:07,827 Speaker 2: side end on the bench from the side that played England. 65 00:03:08,227 --> 00:03:09,867 Speaker 2: Can you can you talk us through some of the 66 00:03:09,947 --> 00:03:11,787 Speaker 2: rationale for the changes you've made. 67 00:03:13,987 --> 00:03:17,267 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, you know, these tournaments is really important that 68 00:03:17,347 --> 00:03:20,867 Speaker 3: we get to see how some of our ladies adapt 69 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:23,387 Speaker 3: in the on the on the you know, the little stage, 70 00:03:23,427 --> 00:03:25,467 Speaker 3: I guess. So it's important that we get them out there, 71 00:03:25,507 --> 00:03:30,227 Speaker 3: and yeah, we try to keep some continuity obviously it's 72 00:03:30,227 --> 00:03:32,627 Speaker 3: really important for us. But at the same time we 73 00:03:32,707 --> 00:03:36,067 Speaker 3: need to you know, rotate a few positions and make 74 00:03:36,107 --> 00:03:39,147 Speaker 3: sure that we're you know, building at depths that we're 75 00:03:39,147 --> 00:03:40,267 Speaker 3: looking for moving through. 76 00:03:40,107 --> 00:03:42,987 Speaker 2: The World Cup roal Hey DeMont has moved back into 77 00:03:42,987 --> 00:03:45,427 Speaker 2: the teen jersey. She started at second five of course 78 00:03:45,467 --> 00:03:49,827 Speaker 2: against England. What's the thinking. Do you feel like that's 79 00:03:49,827 --> 00:03:50,707 Speaker 2: her best position? 80 00:03:53,027 --> 00:03:56,387 Speaker 3: Oh, you know, you know, she's very talented and very 81 00:03:56,427 --> 00:04:00,147 Speaker 3: able at both Oh, we just can to her get 82 00:04:00,187 --> 00:04:02,867 Speaker 3: back in there and run the team around. You know, 83 00:04:02,867 --> 00:04:05,947 Speaker 3: I think Hannah King's been awesome for us as such 84 00:04:05,987 --> 00:04:10,147 Speaker 3: a young game test player for us, and she'll grow 85 00:04:10,187 --> 00:04:12,067 Speaker 3: and grow. So, you know, we've been really head with here. 86 00:04:12,107 --> 00:04:14,387 Speaker 3: But it thing it's a good chance for the proceeded 87 00:04:14,547 --> 00:04:18,187 Speaker 3: to come into the side and also see who shifting 88 00:04:18,227 --> 00:04:18,587 Speaker 3: a ten. 89 00:04:19,307 --> 00:04:20,867 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you're building good depth on the 90 00:04:20,867 --> 00:04:22,787 Speaker 2: black Ferns. 91 00:04:23,147 --> 00:04:26,907 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, there's some pretty robust discussions around selection, 92 00:04:27,067 --> 00:04:29,187 Speaker 3: and you know that's a good thing for us to 93 00:04:29,227 --> 00:04:32,427 Speaker 3: have those sort of tough conversations amongst us trying to 94 00:04:32,547 --> 00:04:36,147 Speaker 3: you know, youven's bring their hand up and it's probably 95 00:04:36,147 --> 00:04:38,907 Speaker 3: something we haven't had for a while. So it's it's 96 00:04:38,947 --> 00:04:41,587 Speaker 3: been great for the group and pretty pressure on each other, 97 00:04:41,667 --> 00:04:44,147 Speaker 3: and there's you know, there's no given for positions and 98 00:04:44,187 --> 00:04:46,347 Speaker 3: everyone's waking really hard to put their hand up to 99 00:04:46,747 --> 00:04:50,587 Speaker 3: make a to give themselves a position in the team. 100 00:04:50,907 --> 00:04:53,827 Speaker 2: And as mentioned, there's a World Cup a year or 101 00:04:53,827 --> 00:04:56,267 Speaker 2: so away. How much of what you're doing at the moment, 102 00:04:56,347 --> 00:04:58,347 Speaker 2: Mike is with a bit of an eye on the 103 00:04:58,387 --> 00:04:59,947 Speaker 2: World Cap in twelve months time. 104 00:05:01,427 --> 00:05:04,587 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. You know it's you know, it's still 105 00:05:04,587 --> 00:05:06,867 Speaker 3: in you know, we're just getting into that prefer era 106 00:05:06,987 --> 00:05:10,067 Speaker 3: of professionals and looks like and you know, we just 107 00:05:10,107 --> 00:05:13,347 Speaker 3: need our ladies training as often as possible. There's as 108 00:05:13,347 --> 00:05:18,147 Speaker 3: many games as possible to just expose them to more 109 00:05:18,187 --> 00:05:21,427 Speaker 3: and more rugby. So it's a challenge for us. But yeah, 110 00:05:21,827 --> 00:05:24,467 Speaker 3: totally just around you know, what does professions will look like, 111 00:05:24,507 --> 00:05:28,707 Speaker 3: and it's it's really concentrate on, you know, using the 112 00:05:28,747 --> 00:05:31,907 Speaker 3: time wisely up until that tournament with Opicky and with 113 00:05:31,987 --> 00:05:35,747 Speaker 3: our training camps and with just that shift and environment 114 00:05:35,827 --> 00:05:36,507 Speaker 3: for our ladies. 115 00:05:37,107 --> 00:05:38,107 Speaker 2: What's Vancouver like. 116 00:05:41,147 --> 00:05:44,867 Speaker 3: It's not a bad place actually, you know it's the 117 00:05:44,987 --> 00:05:49,827 Speaker 3: suns out today, so couldn't complain, you know, I think, yeah, 118 00:05:50,067 --> 00:05:51,827 Speaker 3: we're not a few bike tours the other day and 119 00:05:52,227 --> 00:05:55,107 Speaker 3: get around the place. But yeah, that's a that's a 120 00:05:55,227 --> 00:05:57,827 Speaker 3: very nice sitting next to the mix to be openly 121 00:05:58,107 --> 00:05:58,667 Speaker 3: good stuff. 122 00:05:58,747 --> 00:06:01,187 Speaker 2: Well, all the Beast against Ireland first up, Mike, and 123 00:06:01,227 --> 00:06:03,147 Speaker 2: then on towards the other two matches in w X 124 00:06:03,267 --> 00:06:04,907 Speaker 2: you one appreciate you taking the top for a chat 125 00:06:04,947 --> 00:06:05,547 Speaker 2: this afternoon. 126 00:06:05,667 --> 00:06:07,347 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you mate. 127 00:06:07,387 --> 00:06:09,627 Speaker 2: That's Mike Delaney, assistant coach of the Black Fern So 128 00:06:09,667 --> 00:06:13,387 Speaker 2: tomorrow afternoon three o'clock the Black Ferns will play Ireland. 129 00:06:13,867 --> 00:06:18,027 Speaker 2: Then the following Monday, Monday October seven, it's England. That's 130 00:06:18,027 --> 00:06:20,507 Speaker 2: a nine in the morning New Zealand time kickoff, and 131 00:06:20,547 --> 00:06:24,227 Speaker 2: then Sunday, October the thirteenth, they wrap WXV one with 132 00:06:24,707 --> 00:06:28,707 Speaker 2: a game against France eleven forty five am on Sunday 133 00:06:28,747 --> 00:06:29,827 Speaker 2: October thirteen. 134 00:06:30,867 --> 00:06:34,027 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 135 00:06:34,147 --> 00:06:37,427 Speaker 1: to News Talk sed B weekends from midday, or follow 136 00:06:37,467 --> 00:06:39,067 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.