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Speaker 1: So it's the Democrats wait in Chicago, of course, as

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Speaker 1: they officially gather for the convention that will confirm Kambala

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Speaker 1: Harris's their candidate for the US presidency. Formed a treasurer

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Speaker 1: for the DNC, Billderra's with us A Bill Morning.

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Speaker 2: To you, Good morning morning, New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Do they go into the party go in with real

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Speaker 1: momentum this week?

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Speaker 2: It is? It is a feeling like I don't think

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Speaker 2: we felt since two thousand and eight with Barack Obama,

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Speaker 2: maybe even greater than that. I think it's it's tremendous energy,

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Speaker 2: tremendous optimism. And you know, the contrast, I think, in

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Speaker 2: terms of tone to the other candidates campaign is kidnapping

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Speaker 2: more black and white.

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Speaker 1: If I rang you six or seven weeks ago and said,

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Speaker 1: tell you what's going to happen here, Bill Biden's going

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Speaker 1: to walk and Harris is going to come in and

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Speaker 1: she's going to be really popular, you would have said what.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I would have said. I uh, now,

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Speaker 2: six weeks ago will be before the debate, so I

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Speaker 2: think I probably would have said, you're out of your mind.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know how many of the

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Speaker 2: folks in uh in New Zealand saw the debate between

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Speaker 2: President Biden and former President Trump. But it was it

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Speaker 2: was such a stark moment that I think everybody, even

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Speaker 2: the people who love and support Joe Biden as we

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Speaker 2: do known in a number of years an amazing, amazing person.

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Speaker 2: But you know, that moment was was really become kind

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Speaker 2: of moment I think so and I would have said

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Speaker 2: said no, I would have said no chance.

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Speaker 1: Right, And what was seeing today the Biden handing over,

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Speaker 1: I mean that in itself is a piece of history.

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Speaker 1: Is it awkward for the party that the person who

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Speaker 1: should be running isn't or is it a piece of

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Speaker 1: history to be in briced.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of both. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not at the convention. I had chosen

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Speaker 2: not to go, and now I'm a little bit kicking myself.

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Speaker 2: I think for all of us, there's a little gonna

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Speaker 2: be a little bit of a tremendous amount of sadness

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Speaker 2: and maybe a little bit of guilt. He's such a

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Speaker 2: wonderful man, Joe Biden, who's done so much for this

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Speaker 2: but just just given so much of himself that even

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Speaker 2: though we all know it was the right answer. I

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Speaker 2: think it still hurts, right, we hurt for him. Uh So,

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Speaker 2: on the one hand, on the other hand, we can't

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Speaker 2: we just can't lose. We can't have a dynamic where

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Speaker 2: we both lose the White House and the House and

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Speaker 2: the Senate. And so I think it could not have

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Speaker 2: come together in a better way, supporting the Vice president

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Speaker 2: and her now her selection of Governor Wallas as her

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Speaker 2: vice presidential nominal.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be fantastic to watch today. Let's see

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Speaker 1: what happens this week. Bill Derra, who was the former

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Speaker 1: treasurer for the Democratic National Committee. The convention taking place

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Speaker 1: in Chicago. Most of it will happen in the afternoon.

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