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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks dB.

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Speaker 2: James mcconie's hair as usual on a Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Hello mate, good a poney? How things?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Very good?

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Speaker 2: Thanks very good. A list of things I'd like to

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Speaker 2: get your views on today, starting with the Wallabies are

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Speaker 2: face saving twenty to twelve win and the Third Test

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Speaker 2: over the British and Irish lines and Sydney last night

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Speaker 2: and absolutely poured down for some of this game. What

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Speaker 2: did you make of it all?

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Speaker 3: I thought, I mean, for what was essentially a dead

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Speaker 3: rubber that was still very willing, and I thought, you know,

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Speaker 3: the pride of the Lions pun intended, let's be honest,

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Speaker 3: and also the fact that the Wallabies needed to save

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Speaker 3: some face or get something out of it. A whitewash

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Speaker 3: is pretty damning for a proud Test nation like them.

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Speaker 3: They stood up and look across the board. There were

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Speaker 3: some real heroes, but Nick White playing his final Test,

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Speaker 3: the man with the big mustache, she looks like a

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Speaker 3: time traveler. Phineas Fogg, Nigel Thornberry, call them what you will,

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Speaker 3: but he's a scrappy little bugger at halfback. And I

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Speaker 3: think he epitomized what the Wallabies needed to do, which

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Speaker 3: was fight for the win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a he is. He's just a street fighter,

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Speaker 2: isn't he? Say what you like about him. He can

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Speaker 2: annoy you, but I'm sure most of his teammates and

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Speaker 2: think probably all of them would love having him on

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Speaker 2: their team for that reason totally.

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Speaker 3: And this team, even though he's on his way out,

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Speaker 3: this team really is a work in progress. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure how long we'll Skelton will be around.

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Speaker 3: He was immense as well. He is immense Auckland born

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Speaker 3: by the way, I think he was in New Zealand

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Speaker 3: until he was ten years old, so really a big

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Speaker 3: lump of a kiwi helping them out. And he's thirty three,

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Speaker 3: so you know there's a lot I guess of change happening.

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Speaker 3: And you can see Joseph su Elite, the superstar at center,

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Speaker 3: just growing with every game. So the Wallabies by no

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Speaker 3: means are a finished product. But you know, I actually was.

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Speaker 3: I was rooting for them, pony, I'm an anzac and

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Speaker 3: I did. I didn't want the Lions to win, just

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Speaker 3: find them a little bit annoying and slightly arrogant. At times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, and I was the same as you.

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Speaker 2: I was watching that game last night and if I

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Speaker 2: was cheering for anybody, it was certainly the Wallabies. Now

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Speaker 2: they'll go away for the Rugby Championship now, of course,

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Speaker 2: so busy old year for them. The All Black squad

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Speaker 2: for the Rugby Championship named tomorrow. We've just heard that

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Speaker 2: Finlay Christy has been withdrawn from the Tasman team to

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Speaker 2: take on Bay of Plenty this afternoon. So I think

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Speaker 2: we know who the third half back replacing Noah Hotham

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Speaker 2: is going to be. Who else is named? Do you

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Speaker 2: expect to be there tomorrow who perhaps didn't play last month?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we've got a bombshell for you here, pony,

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Speaker 3: because I'm hearing that cam Royguard is injured as well.

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Speaker 3: So that's just something that's going to be firmed up,

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Speaker 3: possibly in the next thirty minutes, So stay tuned to

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Speaker 3: newstorg ZB for all your rugby updates. But that's the

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Speaker 3: word I'm hearing from the Orblacks camp. They concerned it

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Speaker 3: could be a stress back fracture of some kind, but

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Speaker 3: that means we're going deep into the halfback reserves. But

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Speaker 3: just on that. If that's another the injury to add

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Speaker 3: to the list, what a list it is and currently

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Speaker 3: and I think you've gone through a lot of the players.

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Speaker 3: I mean we've got Scott and Bowden, Barrett out, there's

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Speaker 3: Wallace a Tt, there's Tupo Via under concussion protocol, Tyre Lomax.

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Speaker 3: The list goes on. Caleb Clark's gone as well. So

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Speaker 3: I think when you aim for that sixth of September Test,

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Speaker 3: this is the biggest Test match for a long time

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand against the spring Box at Eden Park.

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Speaker 3: The I think it's steady. How many years Piny helped

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Speaker 3: me out here thirty one years.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety four, Yes, nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 3: So there you go that Test match. I think you

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Speaker 3: know Razer will be thinking, I'm not here to fornicate

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Speaker 3: with the Racknids. I need to actually pick the best guy.

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Speaker 3: So you know, giving Lester Fining a Nuku some time

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Speaker 3: at NPC was a nice idea. No, I think he

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Speaker 3: gets called in Finley Christie. Of course we just talked

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Speaker 3: about we will need another half back. I'm as a

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Speaker 3: euro fan. I'm sure you're a Kyle Preston fan. I

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Speaker 3: mean they do need someone to come in is obviously

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Speaker 3: Dylan Pledgere the other twenties half back, highly rated. Raiven

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Speaker 3: loves him as well. So what's the space on that.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a lot to process. I'm sure you're

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Speaker 3: right now going, holy crap, Pola, what's telling on about?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm doing. I'm sunken down in my chair

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Speaker 2: with this news that Cam Royguard perhaps has a question

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Speaker 2: mark over him. And it does make sense when you

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Speaker 2: think about Finla like Christy being withdrawn from the game.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to get my head round it before,

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Speaker 2: thinking would they withdraw the third half back? Maybe they

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Speaker 2: would just in case he gets engine They've got to

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Speaker 2: call someone in at the eleventh hour. But if roy

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Speaker 2: Guard's out, So what are we talking here? Latimer, Christy

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Speaker 2: and one other? I mean, are we You mentioned a

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Speaker 2: couple there, I like Xavier Roh as well. What about

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't go back to Fialo Fucktava, would they?

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Speaker 3: Well? I think they have to consider him. I think

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Speaker 3: they really do, and I mean Dylan Fleager is kind

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Speaker 3: of on the way up. But the experiment when the

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Speaker 3: test matches of this magnitude, you know, getting thrown I

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Speaker 3: don't think so, because you know, even Tom Lioner had

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Speaker 3: a full season of Super Rugby before he was thrown

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Speaker 3: into that first Lions Test, which I thought was a

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Speaker 3: bit of a hospital pass for him. But for this

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Speaker 3: really is I think you have to go for someone experienced.

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Speaker 3: Xavier Rowe started a lot of key games for the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs through and throughout most of Super Rugby and that

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Speaker 3: might be the body of work that gets him across

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Speaker 3: the line. But for alfac Tava, he's been in the

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Speaker 3: in camp before and you know he's got that athleticism

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Speaker 3: in power that you probably need against the spring box.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, keep our eyes on this. This is yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm trying to process it in real

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Speaker 2: time here Actually a MPC. It's been great, hasn't a

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Speaker 2: part of the fact, Well, had he got beat by

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Speaker 2: Canterbury yesterday, I've loved the first five or six games.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, how great was that seed in

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Speaker 3: Pottydaw at Jerry Collins Stadium. If you live in Pottyda

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Speaker 3: you could just walk up the hill right and watch

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Speaker 3: Billy Proctor, Ruben Love, Peter Lay, all the star Cantaborians

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Speaker 3: and the team I mean that is amazing. Sort of

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Speaker 3: it's pseudo grassroots rugby, but really you're watching the superstars

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Speaker 3: just in suburban Wellington. I love that. Yeah, sorry about

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Speaker 3: your team Piney, No.

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Speaker 2: I no, and funny I I live. I literally live

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Speaker 2: ten minutes from a ten minute would be a brisk

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Speaker 2: I could do exactly what you just suggested if I

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Speaker 2: wasn't working, did you.

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Speaker 3: I know, didn't. But then Tuesday night we have to

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Speaker 3: talk about this game on Mulers all day. But they

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Speaker 3: look dead and buried and this is kind of like

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Speaker 3: coming back from out of nowhere to win that game.

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Speaker 3: But also Lemsopowanga, what a story. Yes he is seven

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Speaker 3: kilo's too heavy, but who's not poney, you know, like

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Speaker 3: I'm holding my hand up way more than seven. But

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Speaker 3: the thing is he made the break, he got the

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Speaker 3: return pass, scored there that key tribe, but all could

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Speaker 3: still had a chance to win it. So I thought drama.

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Speaker 3: In terms of drama, you couldn't have asked for more

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Speaker 3: huge game for the stand Thomas Trophy, but also rated

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Speaker 3: really well as on Sky, so there is a lot

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Speaker 3: of love for the NPC.

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Speaker 2: I like I like it that these these more experienced

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Speaker 2: players are coming back. I watched the Turbos and I

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Speaker 3: Well, I do have a theory that there's about five

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Speaker 3: or six NPC back lines that are better than the

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Speaker 3: Welsh back line. Okay, so I know Wales is in

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Speaker 3: a bit of a slump, but they are a Tier

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Speaker 3: one Test nation and they've almost made the World Cup

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Speaker 3: semi final last time in twenty twenty three. But I

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Speaker 3: think there's five or six MPC back lines that are

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Speaker 3: better than Wales. So you know, when when you get

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Speaker 3: really elite tall timber. But I think in terms of backs,

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Speaker 3: we're an absolute factory. Still in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Oh have you what have you seen the tea? It's

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Speaker 2: been backline this afternoon. Have Yeah. Well, Christie's out now obviously.

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Speaker 2: But the two have villies at ten and twelve are

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Speaker 2: Moor Springer, Tava, Taaway and too Moy Flaw.

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Speaker 3: Yeah there's one, there's one, there's right away, Waikato is

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Speaker 3: another that and Auckland is another. I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: like there's and I don't think the Wellington back line too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, okay, Wales probably say we're happy because Louis

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Speaker 3: rue Sammit's coming back from NFL, but I would say

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Speaker 3: there's plenty of these these back lines that could go

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Speaker 3: the distance of Test Rugby. You know, Canterbury as well.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely right, Hey, God to leave it there, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know. There was other things on my list which

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Speaker 2: I can't get to. Some my apologies for that, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's I'm keeping a fingers crossed that that your oil

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Speaker 2: eyes on the roy Guard situation and are you and

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Speaker 2: I can chat neek Sunday if that works for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pony next some have a bombshell. I will come

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Speaker 3: and going, did you do do do?

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Speaker 2: Do?

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Speaker 3: Do do do? Sorry about that, that's all right.

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