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Speaker 1: You're trusted source for news and views.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the

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Speaker 2: range rover villa designed to intrigue, can use togs V seven.

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Speaker 3: Morning and welcome to you. Coming up today, it's GDP day.

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Speaker 3: So are we back in our third recession in two years?

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Speaker 3: Most likely we're gonna have a chat to asb's chief economist.

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Speaker 3: After seven, Erica Stanford, Minister of the Year, on the

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Speaker 3: compo that's being offered to victims of Lake Alice and

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Speaker 3: whether she's actually got enough money for us. We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to High Performance Sport about cutting the money

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Speaker 3: for hockey and saying completely no to e sports altogether.

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Speaker 3: And then Mark Hadlow, the Lord of the Rings fame,

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Speaker 3: on his new stage show about an angry old cyclist.

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Speaker 2: After eight, Heather Duplicy Allen, look, I couldn't help but.

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Speaker 3: Feel ever so slightly irritated yesterday by a New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: big announcement that put out a statement trumpeting the fact

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Speaker 3: that they have just splashed out on the biggest shipment

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Speaker 3: of sustainable aviation fuel yet and who they're going to

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Speaker 3: punch power a whole bunch of flights across the Pacific

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Speaker 3: on animal and cooking fat leftovers. Now, I'm sure that

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Speaker 3: they think that they're doing good here, but just got

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Speaker 3: all my nerves because you know what I'd like more

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Speaker 3: than an announcement about what wonderful climate warriors they are,

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Speaker 3: It would be an announcement that prices are coming down,

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Speaker 3: all that flights are going to run on time for

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Speaker 3: you know, just one day. Instead, what I'm being told

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Speaker 3: is they've just blown a whole lot of money, because

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Speaker 3: this stuff is a lot more expensive than normal jet fuel,

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Speaker 3: blown a whole lot of money on greenwashing themselves. Now,

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Speaker 3: I think in New Zealand needs to take a leaf

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Speaker 3: out of the books of several big businesses globally and

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Speaker 3: maybe spend less time on trying to fix the planet

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Speaker 3: and more time on just trying to fix their business.

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Speaker 3: BP has sold its offshore wind farms, drop back its

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Speaker 3: emissions reductions, gold, it's increasing its investment and guess what,

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Speaker 3: Oil and Gas shell scaling back its investments in renewables

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Speaker 3: as well. Mercedes Benz abandoned its ev goal gone back

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Speaker 3: to sprucing up its combustion engines. Why because that's their business.

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Speaker 3: It's like cars combustion cars are the business of Mercedes Bens.

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Speaker 3: Oil and gas is the business of BP, and flying

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Speaker 3: a plane for as cheap and as punctually as possible

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Speaker 3: would be the business of in New Zealand. I would

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Speaker 3: have thought, now I'm not naive. I mean, I understand

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Speaker 3: why they're doing this right. They firmly believe that there

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Speaker 3: is consumer pressure to reduce their climate harm. I think

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Speaker 3: they are more worried about this than they actually need

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Speaker 3: to be. I think there's much more consumer pressure on

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Speaker 3: them getting prices down and just getting us to our

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Speaker 3: destinations on a time A little bit more focus on that. Please?

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Speaker 1: What news of the world in ninety seconds? So one of.

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Speaker 3: Kia's MP's over in the UK the matter of Mother

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Speaker 3: of the House, Diane Abbott, has had a go at

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Speaker 3: her own party leader for no compo for the waspy woman.

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Speaker 4: I understand the issue about the cost, but does the

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Speaker 4: Prime Minister really understand how locked down what's be women

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Speaker 4: feel today.

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Speaker 3: To which Kia said, have you seen our debt levels?

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Speaker 5: I'm afraid to say the tax personally can't afford the

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Speaker 5: tens of billions of clowns in compensation. When the evidence

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Speaker 5: does show that nineteen present of those impacted to know

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Speaker 5: about it, that's because of a state of aur economy.

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Speaker 3: Staying in the UK, a judge has jailed a nineteen

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Speaker 3: year old kid for nine years because he was video

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Speaker 3: doing laughing guess in the driver's seat of a car

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Speaker 3: before he crushed the car and killed three people.

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Speaker 6: Moments before their deaths, Thomas Johnson's passengers laugh and then

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Speaker 6: this the tires screech as Johnson drifts around the corner.

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Speaker 3: The father of one of the victims still can't believe it.

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Speaker 7: It was just completely erects dangerous behavior. There's no way

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Speaker 7: that anybody can in their right mind can think that

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Speaker 7: they can drive around at the speeds they were driving

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Speaker 7: while inhaling nitrous oxide balloons and consider that.

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Speaker 1: To be safe.

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Speaker 3: Christian in the Middle East right now is just how

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Speaker 3: long the new regime change in Syria can remain peaceful.

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Speaker 8: I think in the days and weeks ahead, and we're

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Speaker 8: going to see some Arab demonstration of power.

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Speaker 1: Intoluens well to notice in terms of piss.

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Speaker 8: You had your background, but also to try and some

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Speaker 8: Juri assert somehow of influence in the maascis.

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Speaker 3: You remember those astronauts stuck at the International Space Station.

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Speaker 3: I hope they're loving it because their stage just got longer.

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Speaker 9: Now says this is to allow engineers more time to

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Speaker 9: process a brand new SpaceX crew Dragon spacecraft that will

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Speaker 9: bring their replacement crew to the International Space Station.

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Speaker 3: And finally, Tom Cruise is a military hero in real life.

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Speaker 3: The Navy has awarded him the Department of the Navy's

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Speaker 3: Distinguished Public Service Award for his dedication and contribution to

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Speaker 3: the US Navy through his film work. This is actually

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Speaker 3: the highest honor that the Navy can give to a

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Speaker 3: person who isn't actually part of the Navy. And then

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Speaker 3: mostly talking about his work. I mean, they're only talking

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Speaker 3: about his work, aren't they? On the top Gun films here,

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Speaker 3: which they say led to a surge in recruitment after

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Speaker 3: both movies were released. And that is news of the

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Speaker 3: world in nineteen seconds. Listen, this has just happened over

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Speaker 3: in the States just in the last oh I would

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Speaker 3: say hour or their about Apparently the Matt Gates reporters

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Speaker 3: coming out in the next few days. Now. This is

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Speaker 3: the report that deals with an investigation into several allegations

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Speaker 3: against Matt Gates, who was suppose he was originally Trump's

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Speaker 3: pack for Attorney General, one of the allegations being that

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Speaker 3: he had sex with a minor and so on. The

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Speaker 3: House Ethics Committee has secretly voted to release it. They haven't,

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Speaker 3: as far as I can see, publicly confirmed this, but

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Speaker 3: this has been leaked now. And what that means is

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Speaker 3: that at least one Republican has actually flipped aside with

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Speaker 3: the Democrats on this to get this stuff out there

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Speaker 3: because he's a deeply unpopular guy in Washington. CNN is

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Speaker 3: suggesting that this report could be out before the end

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Speaker 3: of the year. Twelve plus six, the.

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Speaker 2: Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: How of my news talks ad been?

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, this is news that is just kind of

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Speaker 3: coming out. In the last twenty minutes or so, it's

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Speaker 3: been confirmed that Sergio Perez and Red Bull have reached

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Speaker 3: an agreement to part ways with immediate effect. They've put

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Speaker 3: the to it, saying the usual stuff about each other.

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Speaker 3: Perez are saying that driving for Red Bull has been

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Speaker 3: an unforgettable experience. Christian Horner is saying, you'd like to

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Speaker 3: thank Sergio Perez for all he's done for Oracle red

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Speaker 3: Bull Racing for the past four seasons and so on,

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Speaker 3: but basically it's all over. Further announcements regarding the team's

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Speaker 3: full twenty twenty five lineup will be made in due course,

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Speaker 3: and the speculation, in fact, some media outlets around the world,

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Speaker 3: in places like Germany and so on, are actually reporting

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Speaker 3: that it will be Liam Lawson that and he's got

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Speaker 3: it confirmed. We're just waiting for that to be announced.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen past six has it gone way into money? Greg Smith,

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Speaker 3: Devin Funds Management with US Now Morning Greg, Yeah, morning

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Speaker 3: to your Heather. Are you liking that consumer confidence survey?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's certainly looking a bit better than it was.

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Speaker 10: Consumes a feeling a bit more chipper. It seems this

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Speaker 10: is the West PICC McDermott Miller consumer confidence the next

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Speaker 10: It was up seven points in December ninety seven point five. Look,

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Speaker 10: it's still though long term iverages, but it is the

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Speaker 10: most upbeat households have been in three years, so we'll

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Speaker 10: certainly take that no surprise. What's underpinning confidence with god

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Speaker 10: to see falling inflation and the ABNZ, it's been cutting rates,

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Speaker 10: present conditions and exits risen as is the outlook, and

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Speaker 10: just looking at terms in terms of that, and that

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Speaker 10: negative fifteen percent still have a negative view. That has

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Speaker 10: ease a little bit to nine percent of this reed,

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Speaker 10: so the five year outlook is also picked up from

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Speaker 10: plus six percent to plus nine point three percent. Notably,

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Speaker 10: the rising conference is most pronounced among middle to higher

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Speaker 10: income households, and also generally, although confidence is picking up,

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Speaker 10: we're not exactly going on a spending spree this holiday

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Speaker 10: season just yet by the looks of things, So it's

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Speaker 10: all a bit of a reluctance in terms of big

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Speaker 10: ticket purchases. Increase spending mainly in bars and restaurants, so

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Speaker 10: that probably reflects the more jovial mood, but yet not

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Speaker 10: spending on large big ticket items yet, perhaps surprising suppots.

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Speaker 10: And you think about we've had those rate cuts evenly,

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Speaker 10: but they haven't had a real impact just yet. You know,

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Speaker 10: most New Zealand mortgages are on fixed terms, so it

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Speaker 10: takes time to transmit to the household finances. So the

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Speaker 10: good news we've got around half of all morea either

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Speaker 10: on floating rates or coming out for repricing the next

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Speaker 10: six months. Yes, so we should see consumers being pushed

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Speaker 10: high through mid twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Are you looking at that current account deficit narrowing and

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Speaker 3: thinking that's good news.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and I think it sort of ties in with

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Speaker 10: that consumers have been belt tightening and that sort of

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Speaker 10: reflected in the current account numbers. So if we look

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Speaker 10: at it, the deficit narrowed in September by point nine

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Speaker 10: billion to six point two billion, and the current count

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Speaker 10: deficit basically reflects difference between what we earn overseas and

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Speaker 10: what we spend off shore. The improvement was driven by

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Speaker 10: a point eight billion full in goods imports and that

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Speaker 10: narrow the deficit there to one point nine billion. It's

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Speaker 10: efectively were importingly stuff, so in part due to that

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Speaker 10: consumer belt tightening in particular talking about this in a minute,

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Speaker 10: but yeah, fewer cars imported. Also are no defensive aircraft

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Speaker 10: as well during the quarter. So on an annual basis,

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Speaker 10: the current account deficit is twenty seven billion CE. Look

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Speaker 10: in terms of GDP here that it's six point four percent,

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Speaker 10: So it's improved from six point six percent in June.

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Speaker 10: a bit of a suspending spurge. Just looking at some

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Speaker 10: other aspects of the print, we earn more from dividends

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Speaker 10: and this from investments than overseas investors did. Also the

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Speaker 10: Financial Council called a needin five two point one billion

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Speaker 10: from overseas investors. But just looking at the balance sheet

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Speaker 10: to eight billion, that's almost fifty percent of GDP, So

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Speaker 10: that's widened from forty eight percent at June. So we're

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Speaker 10: borrowing more from overseas then we're acquired and overseas financial asseets.

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Speaker 10: But the improvement of the carry again theft it is

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Speaker 10: good news at least.

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Speaker 3: So listen on the cars. What do you make of

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Speaker 3: this merger between all the rumors of the merger between

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Speaker 3: this and and Honda.

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Speaker 10: Yes, we're getting set for a big type potentially. So

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Speaker 10: reports are the Honda in the center exploring a merger

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Speaker 10: now that would create the third largest auto group globally

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Speaker 10: with six eight million to say vehicle sales annually. And

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Speaker 10: basically I suppose the idea that the what I seeter

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Speaker 10: has been under pressure a bit with competition obviously, with

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Speaker 10: the economy softening generally and also in terms of their type,

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Speaker 10: would be a better position to compete with Toyota. They

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Speaker 10: sell around eleven million cars each year, so it would

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Speaker 10: create economies of scale, and this an has been under pressure.

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Speaker 10: They cut their outlook recently. They said they plan to

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Speaker 10: slash nine thousand jobs. So invistas of car SI vote.

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Speaker 10: The companies themselves are are keeping things pretty quiet. But

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Speaker 10: she is in Nissan serage twenty four percent. That was

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Speaker 10: a big steple one day jump could also involve to

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Speaker 10: expand to include Mitsubishi Motors, in which Nissan is a

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Speaker 10: twenty four percent shield and Mitsubishi shares they soared seventeen percent.

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Speaker 10: Is aid effectively consolidate the Japanese auto industries. You've got

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, Greg, thanks very much appreciated, Greg Smith, Devon

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Speaker 3: Now are you seeing some potential here, like is this

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Speaker 3: hopeful with that good news. That's John kid the director

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Speaker 3: in the head of research at Analystic. And going back

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Speaker 3: to what I said at the start of the program

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Speaker 3: here that you're one hundred percent correct on their New

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Speaker 3: Zealand call. If when mills and solar where the future

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Speaker 3: oil companies would be all in. It's not like they're

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Speaker 3: sort of cash or capital to invest. They were all

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Speaker 3: in and now they're selling it down, which tells you

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Speaker 3: what they thought of that once they got in there.

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Speaker 3: Obviously the green washing didn't pay off. Hey, I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you what's weird is this decision from Chris Penk about

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Speaker 3: renaming some of the place names that have been incorrectly

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Speaker 3: named in Mardi right, so the most prominent of the two,

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Speaker 3: he's renamed one of the parks at one of the

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Speaker 3: places in central North Idland. Fair enough, go for it.

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Speaker 3: And he's also put a is given is given that

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Speaker 3: little weird suburb around Spark Arena in Auckland, you know,

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Speaker 3: around Britain. Marty's given that a name.

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Speaker 14: So cool.

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Speaker 3: But Potoni wanted to change to Pittel or Air because

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Speaker 3: Potni is just a made up name. It's just it's

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Speaker 3: like some dude arrived in New Zealand heard Petorna and

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Speaker 3: with Petoni and then it's stuck. And so all that

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Speaker 3: they were asking and Potoni is can we take it

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Speaker 3: back to its original name, which actually means something, and

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Speaker 3: he goes nah, and he didn't explain why, and I

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Speaker 3: find that quite strange, but because I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Would it be that hard for us

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Speaker 3: to figure it out? If you saw Potoni and Petorna

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Speaker 3: written on his side, you'd kind of know what you were,

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Speaker 3: would know, wouldn't we? So I'm not really sure. I'd

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Speaker 3: love an explanation from Chris actually on why he's done this.

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Speaker 11: Is there is there a macron involved? There?

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Speaker 3: No, there's no macron involved. There is the macron the

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Speaker 3: thing that throws you.

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Speaker 16: Oh well, I was just wondering if there's a macron shortage,

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Speaker 16: because I noticed when you're coming in on the Northwestern Motorway, for.

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Speaker 3: Example, everything's got a macron.

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Speaker 16: Well, no, some signs say that you're going to fun

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Speaker 16: A with a macron, and then some say say it

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Speaker 16: without it, and obviously they're hard to get.

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Speaker 3: It must be I'm underestimating Christmas rash on macrons, obviously.

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Speaker 3: The other one that I find even more perplexing is

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Speaker 3: that Takaninny actually should have a macron, so it should

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Speaker 3: be tarkaniny, so it should be it should be a

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Speaker 3: long A there and they ask can we do that please?

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Speaker 3: And he was like, Nat, why what's the problem. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think if we looked at Tacaninny and Tarkaniny, we'd

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Speaker 3: figure we'd figure that out, wouldn't we? So why Anyway,

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Speaker 3: Chris does not appear to be giving interviews on this,

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Speaker 3: which I find quite strange, and I'd love to have

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Speaker 3: a chat to him about it. So if Chris wakes

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Speaker 3: up in time, if he could maybe just quickly schedule

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Speaker 3: us in for a little bit, I'd be It is

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Speaker 3: so grateful just to understand what's going on here. Sixteen

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Speaker 3: away from seven the Mic.

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Speaker 2: Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News

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Speaker 2: Talks A be hither.

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Speaker 3: I agree with Chris Penk and I actually submitted against

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Speaker 3: the name change because all names are just made up

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Speaker 3: in life is all about change. Just because the MARRII

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Speaker 3: originally called it something else doesn't mean its current name

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Speaker 3: is wrong, as it just evolved, which I suppose like

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Speaker 3: there is an element of truth to that, because we

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Speaker 3: are we are bastardizing things up and down this country, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, like the bleder is low cup. Every time

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Speaker 3: I hear it makes my ears bleed. It's the bleeds

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Speaker 3: Low Cup. It's Wellesley Street, not Wellesley Street. But we've

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Speaker 3: done our own little thing, but that haven't. We're very happy,

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Speaker 3: So maybe we could just keep going with that as well.

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Speaker 3: But maybe he could just explain this to us. Thirteen

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Speaker 3: Away from.

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Speaker 17: Seven International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance Feace of

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Speaker 17: mind for New Zealand business Joe Mattenna.

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Speaker 3: Out of a city for US. Hello, Joe, good morning, Heather,

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Speaker 3: So good thing. The Pope survived. Geez, by the sounds

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Speaker 3: of things, the ones who were after him got blown up,

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Speaker 3: didn't they.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, Look it makes you wonder, doesn't it. The Pope

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Speaker 18: has just celebrated his eighty eighth birthday yeares today and

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Speaker 18: in an excerpt published in one of the Italian papers,

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Speaker 18: he's revealed from his new book that British spies foiled

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Speaker 18: two size suicide bomb attacks that were targeting him during

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Speaker 18: his Iraq visit in twenty twenty one. And you'll, of course,

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Speaker 18: you'll remember that the country was still undergoing quite a

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Speaker 18: lot of violent upheaval at that time. He was determined

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Speaker 18: to make this visit and this is the first time

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Speaker 18: we've heard about it. To be coming out in more

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Speaker 18: detail in his book called Hope, which is published in January.

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Speaker 3: Going to be fascinating to read that. Actually, now, what

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Speaker 3: is going on? Why is Maloney in trouble for having

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Speaker 3: a relationship with us?

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Speaker 18: Look, I think it's quite controversial because she's cultivated this relationship,

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Speaker 18: this friendship with Elon mask the billionaire, who of course

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Speaker 18: is very close to the president elect Donald Trump. She

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Speaker 18: also has a good relationship with Donald Trump. She's positioned

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Speaker 18: herself as a significant political leader now in Europe, and

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Speaker 18: she was questioned in parliament about this relationship, suggesting that

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Speaker 18: there was too much influence from the billionaire, and she said,

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Speaker 18: I have very good relations with a lot of people

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Speaker 18: and I don't take orders from anyone. And anyone who

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Speaker 18: knows Georgia Moloney, I think, would believe that because she's

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Speaker 18: a very feisty leader and she might be pushed around.

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Speaker 3: But what is the allegation, I mean, what's the problem

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Speaker 3: that's been thrown at her?

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Speaker 18: I think the sense is that she's not in control

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Speaker 18: and that she might be slavishly executing orders on behalf

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Speaker 18: of other interests.

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Speaker 3: Does she strike you as that kind of a woman.

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Speaker 18: She doesn't really, and I think she's been very clever

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Speaker 18: in developing this business relationship looking for investment in Italy.

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Speaker 18: So I think we should just wait and see what

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Speaker 18: happens there.

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Speaker 3: Hey, listen, how's this going to go down if they

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Speaker 3: ban the smoking outside of Milan.

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Speaker 18: Look, it's already getting harder for Italians and we know

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Speaker 18: they love their cigarettes. It's great to go to a

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Speaker 18: restaurant here and sit indoors where you don't have cigarette smoke,

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Speaker 18: but you can smoke outdoors in a restaurant here. Now

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Speaker 18: Milan is going to make it almost impossible to smoke

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Speaker 18: outdoors from next month in a bid to improve their

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Speaker 18: air quality. It sounds quite severe. But on the other hand,

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Speaker 18: Milan does have one of the highest pollution levels in Europe,

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Speaker 18: and I guess that is a major concern for the

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Speaker 18: local authorities.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, jeez, Hey, thank you very much. Joe really appreciated.

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Speaker 3: Merry Christmas. Do you have a lovely holiday to hither?

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much, thank you. That's Joe McKenna out of

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Speaker 3: Italy for us Hither. At a time when things are

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Speaker 3: difficult financially, the last thing the Council's need is to

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Speaker 3: be wasting thousands of dollars or more in rates on

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Speaker 3: new signs for a virtue signaling name change. Chris Pink

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Speaker 3: is absolutely right to throw a pital on it in

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Speaker 3: the bin where it belongs. Ten to seven.

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Speaker 2: Heather Dupersy Allen on the My Costing break list with

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Speaker 2: the range Rover Villain News talks dead b.

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Speaker 3: On the drones. You want an update on the drones again,

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Speaker 3: give you an update. These are all updates that are

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Speaker 3: not updates, by the way, because everybody seems to be

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Speaker 3: doing the thing where they're like, oh, nothing to worry about,

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Speaker 3: what we can't actually tell you. So what happened is

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Speaker 3: that the people who know what's going on with the

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Speaker 3: drones have given members of the US House Intelligence Committee

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Speaker 3: are closed door briefing, right, and so all of these

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Speaker 3: people on the committee now know what's going on with

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Speaker 3: the drones. So they came out this morning with Biden

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Speaker 3: to tell us what's going on with the drones, and

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Speaker 3: it was all like, oh, it was all about what's

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Speaker 3: not going on with the drones rather than what's going on,

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Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. So it's no aliens,

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Speaker 3: no foreign actors, nothing, no laws being broken, nothing to

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Speaker 3: worry about here. Vast majority of sightings just normal aircraft,

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Speaker 3: just drones being operated lawfully. Biden went on to say,

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Speaker 3: there's lots of authorized drones up there. I think one

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Speaker 3: started it, and they all everybody wanted to get in

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Speaker 3: on the on the deal. So basically one went up,

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Speaker 3: freaked some people out, and then everybody else decided to

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Speaker 3: start doing copycatting at night. It's not gonna wash, is it,

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Speaker 3: Because if you're giving a closed door briefing, why don't

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Speaker 3: you just give an open If there's nothing to see here,

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Speaker 3: do an open door briefing, let everybody in on it.

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Speaker 16: So I feel like nobody's really asking the question why

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Speaker 16: New Jersey And the only thing that I can come

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Speaker 16: up with is that they're just you know, really stepping

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Speaker 16: up the production values on Jersey Shore maybe and you

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Speaker 16: know they want some nice wide nighttime drone shots.

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Speaker 3: Could be could look at this, and.

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Speaker 11: Then they can't tell anyone because then that would be spoilers.

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Speaker 3: Could be anything that's going on. But I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: that is a hell of a lot of a hell

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Speaker 3: of a lot of trouble to go to keep that

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Speaker 3: particular plot line, you know, secret five away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 2: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 2: to the next level.

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Speaker 3: So we've achieved a tech first in the world. This

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Speaker 3: is in regards to the SpaceX Starlink direct to cell

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Speaker 3: service to we'll talk talk normal people's language here right one,

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Speaker 3: New Zealand has linked up with Starlink so that we

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Speaker 3: are able to send text using the satellite even in

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Speaker 3: the most remote places in the country where we wouldn't

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Speaker 3: normally have any reception at all. The service has been

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Speaker 3: trialed in the US with a good level of success

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Speaker 3: in terms of people being able to get the messages

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Speaker 3: out and actually be rescued and stuff like that. But

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Speaker 3: we've expanded on that and this satellite service launched reaches

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Speaker 3: around forty percent of our most remote areas in the

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Speaker 3: country and also twenty k's out to see, which is

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Speaker 3: quite a distance anyway. Now, iPhone news is bad news.

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Speaker 3: You're going to have to wait because Apple didn't get

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Speaker 3: their shite together before the launch, did it. So currently

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Speaker 3: you're only going to be able to use the satellite

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Speaker 3: service on three of the latest Samsung phones and also

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Speaker 3: the Oppo find X eight Pro. Did I call it?

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Speaker 3: Did I give it? The right name. I had to

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Speaker 3: double check because I didn't know what an OPO was

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Speaker 3: on until you know.

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Speaker 16: What the third most popular brand of the phone in

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Speaker 16: this country was.

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Speaker 3: Because we were at the Christmas party and you got

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Speaker 3: your phone out, did new Glenn, and you said it's

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Speaker 3: an Opo And I said, what is that?

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Speaker 19: Now?

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Speaker 17: Again?

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Speaker 1: A hippo?

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Speaker 14: What?

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Speaker 3: And I did that boomer thing where I had literally

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Speaker 3: no idea what he was talking about. But anyway, now

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Speaker 3: I do, and now you do too. And if you've

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Speaker 3: got one of them, like Glenn, he's going to get

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Speaker 3: rescued when he's out trapped on the Milford tracking. I'm

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Speaker 3: completely stuffed as it is. Hither ghetto, get yourself, get

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Speaker 3: over yourself. Chris Penk said no, he's the minister, and

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Speaker 3: no is the answer. See how Pauline parented. Nick Taffley

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Speaker 3: from ASP is going to talk us through the GDP numbers,

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Speaker 3: which will be out in just a matter of a few hours,

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Speaker 3: Just a few more hours to find out if we're

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Speaker 3: in our third little recession, Adrian or we're very excited.

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Speaker 3: He'd be like, did I get a trifector? Because I

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Speaker 3: went for one? But did I get three? So we'll

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Speaker 3: find out about there. We've got some good news though

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Speaker 3: we're probably through the worst of it. And then Rick

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Speaker 3: Extanford on that compo package for the Late Lake Alice victims.

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Speaker 3: And after eight Mark Hadler will talk you through that.

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Speaker 3: News TOGS will.

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Speaker 2: Be the breakfast show you can trust, Heather do for

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Speaker 2: see Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 2: Life Your Way News TOGS.

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Speaker 3: There'd be good morning. So the week of grim economic

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Speaker 3: news continues today. We're going to get the GDP data

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Speaker 3: later this morning and it is expected to tell us

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Speaker 3: that we are back in recession for the third time

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Speaker 3: in two years. Asb's chief economist Nick Toughley is with us.

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Speaker 14: Now, Hey, Nick, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Here, Merry Christmas to you two. Are you also picking

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Speaker 3: a fall of about zero point four percent?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, we've got zero point four percent, the market consensus

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Speaker 20: about mine and zero point two and that's where the

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Speaker 20: Reserve Bank is.

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Speaker 14: The thing we've got to be mindful of.

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Speaker 20: Is that there's also some revisions coming along, so that

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Speaker 20: that could mean that what we think happened in September

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Speaker 20: that even could be a little bit out. So just

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Speaker 20: watch for quite a lot of quite an eventful relief.

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Speaker 3: So if it does come through like that, are we

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Speaker 3: looking at potentially manufacturing having quite a big pullback. But

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Speaker 3: we are being saved a little bit by the farmers

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Speaker 3: who are dragging us through this.

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Speaker 19: It's a little bit like that.

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Speaker 20: Look, we've got got all that retail pressure, the construction

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Speaker 20: sector pressure, and that's flowing through the manufacturing before you

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Speaker 20: even add on the impacts of the electricity challenges that

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Speaker 20: we had over the quarter as well, where you had

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Speaker 20: quite a bit of shuttering of some of our sort

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Speaker 20: of large manufacturers as well, and the electricity sector was

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Speaker 20: basically burning anything expensive and Flama we refined to generate electricity,

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Speaker 20: so the value we had out of that sector was

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Speaker 20: put in miserable too. But yes, really good production coming

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Speaker 20: through in the dairy side for us. We're looking like

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Speaker 20: there was a bit of activity picking up in there,

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Speaker 20: so that's helping that good sector and also a slowing

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Speaker 20: service sector out.

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Speaker 3: So can we say that if we're going to take

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Speaker 3: some good news out of this, it's that we're through

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Speaker 3: the worst of it.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I'd say there's two bits of news we can

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Speaker 20: focus on the good side here. Hopefully this is the

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Speaker 20: last sort of sustained contraction that we see, and from

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Speaker 20: here on in it's gradual recovery. And there are the

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Speaker 20: early signs that we're all feeling a little bit happier

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Speaker 20: and we found our wallets somewhere. The second thing is

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Speaker 20: that we likely to see the sort of more complete

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Speaker 20: revisions coming out that suggest the level of GDP at

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Speaker 20: the start of this year was nearly two percentage points

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Speaker 20: higher than what we previously thought, So that basically says,

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Speaker 20: you know, the economy held up a bit better, our

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Speaker 20: productivity wasn't quite as bad as what we thought. Having

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Speaker 20: said that, it still felt pretty tough out there for

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Speaker 20: a lot of people this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and is it not going to still feel I mean,

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Speaker 3: even though we're through the worst of it's still going

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Speaker 3: to feel tough next year because we're looking at pretty

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Speaker 3: flat growth potentially it's a forecast of about zero point

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Speaker 3: five percent, and still per capita, we're going backwards, aren't we.

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Speaker 20: Well, we think we'll be back into I guess the

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Speaker 20: heck headline growth coming through with the next quarter and

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Speaker 20: what started to look progressively more solid next year and

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Speaker 20: getting out of a per carefitter recession, and it's going

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Speaker 20: to be a case of more of a gradual turnaround.

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Speaker 20: One of the big things obviously that's caused the slow

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Speaker 20: down and the pain has been higher interest rates. They

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Speaker 20: are on the way down, but because we've got a

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Speaker 20: lot of people on fixed rate mortgages, it just takes

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Speaker 20: a while for their impact to flow through, and it will.

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Speaker 20: It will pick up momentum, just in the short term.

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Speaker 20: We've had a lot of people fixing for say six months,

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Speaker 20: so that they sort of hopefully benefit from much lower

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Speaker 20: rates next year.

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Speaker 1: So it's bight of.

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Speaker 20: The impact right now, but it'll really pick up next year.

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Speaker 3: Good Steffan Nikay, thanks very much, enjoy your holiday break.

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Speaker 3: That's a nick toughly asb's chief economist. Right now, it's

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Speaker 3: ten past.

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Speaker 1: Seven together, duplessye Ellen.

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Speaker 3: So victims of Lake Alis have finally found out how

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Speaker 3: much COMPO they're going to be getting. It's either a

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Speaker 3: one off one hundred and fifty thousand dollars rapid payment

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Speaker 3: or they can have their case heard and judged and

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Speaker 3: potentially even get more. The Lead Coordination Minister Erica Stanford

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Speaker 3: is with us.

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Speaker 14: Erica.

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Speaker 3: Hello, good morning, now Erica, one hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 3: is more than has ever been paid out to victims

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Speaker 3: like this, But it sounds like some of them are

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Speaker 3: disappointed because they were expecting millions. Is that right?

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Speaker 21: That is right? And now I said yesterday no amount

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Speaker 21: we are ever going to pay will ever make up

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Speaker 21: for what happened to children at Lake Alice. And I

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Speaker 21: also said yesterday that I know that that announcement changed

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Speaker 21: many lives, and there are many people that are extraordinarily grateful.

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Speaker 21: But look, we always knew that there was some that

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Speaker 21: we were going to let down. And that's a hard

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Speaker 21: part of this job.

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Speaker 3: How did you get to one fifty thousand? How did

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Speaker 3: you decide that?

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Speaker 21: Again, really hard call to make because this is really

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Speaker 21: the first time this has happened. There is no precedent

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Speaker 21: around the world. There are some other countries who have

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Speaker 21: paid out for torture, but only a couple and are

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Speaker 21: very very different circumstances, and they were adults and so

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Speaker 21: similar sort of amounts. But really it was a tough

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Speaker 21: call to make because there just isn't a precedent at all.

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Speaker 3: Is it going to be enough? Are you going to

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Speaker 3: have enough money, because it looks to me like you've

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Speaker 3: maybe budgeted for about one hundred and fifty victims. There

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Speaker 3: may be as many as two hundred out there.

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Speaker 21: Again, we don't know how many there are. We have

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Speaker 21: sort of looked at around about one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 21: one hundred and fifty, but we really aren't aren't sure.

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Speaker 21: But I think with that amount we have budget enough.

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Speaker 21: And that includes the arbiter and all of the costs

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Speaker 21: as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now does the set of precedent for anybody else

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Speaker 3: who's caught up in the state abuse inquiry as to

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Speaker 3: how much they're going to get.

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Speaker 21: No, we wanted to be very clear yesterday this is

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Speaker 21: entirely different and entirely separate. Most of these Lakelis victims

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Speaker 21: have already received their compensate or their compensation already their redress,

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Speaker 21: I should say. And this is a new material circumstance

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Speaker 21: because the state has acknowledged that they were tortured, and

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Speaker 21: that triggers a separate thing. And this is we looked

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Speaker 21: at this separately. There are separate things that we considered.

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Speaker 21: We wanted to make it very clear yesterday in my

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Speaker 21: remarks that this will have no bearing on what we

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Speaker 21: think about in the future.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant, Hey, Eric, thank you very much to really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Eric Stanford, Lead Coordination Minister Chris Pink is awake. They've

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Speaker 3: got back to us and because we've said, can you

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Speaker 3: come on, Chris, can you explain to us why you

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Speaker 3: don't want Peter Horner and you don't want Tucking. I

795
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Speaker 3: need to have a double A in there so you

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Speaker 3: know it gets pronounced properly. Apparently he's unavailable because he's

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Speaker 3: on parenting duties this morning. And as if to because

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Speaker 3: at this point you go whatever, but no, he said, no, no,

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Speaker 3: he is. He left the Gallery Christmas party early last

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Speaker 3: night because he's on parenting.

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Speaker 11: You know what kids be like at this time of year?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Is it particular? I mean, look, I'm very early

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Speaker 3: in this parenting journey. Is it quite bad at this time?

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Speaker 16: I saw a woman in the que ahead of me

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Speaker 16: at the Harvey Norman photo desk yesterday. Yes, and yeah,

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Speaker 16: that was quite a battle that was going on there.

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Speaker 16: That was one grumpy kid.

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Speaker 3: Did the child want her to buy a photo?

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Speaker 20: Well?

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Speaker 16: No, the child couldn't quite understand why they didn't have

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Speaker 16: the Christmas cards that they'd been promised. Oh dear, And

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Speaker 16: that's a whole other story about how bad Harvey Norman,

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Speaker 16: is it delivering and time for Christmas?

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Speaker 3: Man, you know you've got a battle on your hands

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Speaker 3: when the kid's obsessed with Christmas card for Christmas cards anyway,

816
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Speaker 3: So Chris is dealing with that. I mean, my look,

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Speaker 3: I'm very early on and as I say in the

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Speaker 3: Parenting Journey, but my advice to Chris is what you

819
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Speaker 3: want to do is you just want to put Blue

820
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Speaker 3: Eye on in the lounge and you say to the kids.

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Speaker 3: You give the kids the granola or their porridge or

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Speaker 3: their toast or whatever it is that you're going to

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Speaker 3: give them for the brecky. You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to help it up, you know,

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Speaker 3: chuck and chuck some avocado on a piece of vogels

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Speaker 3: and a couple of slices of tomato. And look, they're

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Speaker 3: getting a couple of vegetables right there and some nuts

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Speaker 3: and grains. So that's good work, that's good parenting. And

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Speaker 3: then you've got the bluey. If you feel bad about

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Speaker 3: the blue because you're like it's very early in the

831
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Speaker 3: day to have screen time, what you want to do

832
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Speaker 3: is just mute it and put the captions on and

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00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: then they're not watching screen they're reading, so you're doing

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Speaker 3: reading one hour of reading, plus you're getting your fruits

835
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Speaker 3: and grains and all your vegetables. And then while they're

836
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Speaker 3: busy reading the blue Ey and eating all that stuff,

837
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Speaker 3: you come out and you go to your bedroom and

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Speaker 3: you take a call from us. That's how it would

839
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Speaker 3: work in my house if I just saying if I

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Speaker 3: was a minister. But as you can tell, I'm not

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Speaker 3: a minister for obvious reasons. Anyway, maybe in the future

842
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Speaker 3: you can think about that and then come on the

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Speaker 3: show and talk just and by the way, BS, I'm

844
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Speaker 3: just going to say this, BS on this story because Chris,

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Speaker 3: as far as I can see, has given no interviews.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why he's so weird about it. It's

847
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Speaker 3: not even that big deal. He's given no interviews. He

848
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Speaker 3: doesn't want to talk about this, so we will never

849
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Speaker 3: know why Chris has made the decision he has Quarter

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Speaker 3: Past the.

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Speaker 3: Be Morning Heather. What if his parenting duties include a

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Speaker 3: sick child, then what Well, at that point, I would

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Speaker 3: say two hours of Bluey and pretty much whatever they

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Speaker 3: want for breakfast. I think that's okay, like a smoothie

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Speaker 3: or something like that. Eighteen past seven. Listen, I'm sorry

858
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Speaker 3: to do this year, but if you're embarrassed by our

859
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: military gear breaking down, you're probably not gonna want to

860
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Speaker 3: hear this one. We sent last night an urban search

861
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Speaker 3: and rescue team to van Awatu to help them after

862
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Speaker 3: the quake, but they, by the looks of things, haven't

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Speaker 3: got there. And the problem is because the plane caught fire,

864
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Speaker 3: or if that, it's not clear that the plane actually

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Speaker 3: did catch fire, but there was an engine fire warning,

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Speaker 3: so it might have been about to catch fire, or

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Speaker 3: might have been catching fire, or might have been at

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Speaker 3: risk well who knows anyway, made false alarm. Whatever the

869
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Speaker 3: thing is, you can't fly when you got an engine

870
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Speaker 3: in an engine morning coming through Saxon catch fire. So

871
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Speaker 3: this is an old Air Force Hercules because and I

872
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: say old as if you didn't already know that it

873
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Speaker 3: was old. So the Hercules called got itself some trouble,

874
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Speaker 3: so they had to be diverted through to New Caledonia.

875
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Speaker 3: So we're going to send a second plane this morning,

876
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Speaker 3: Fingers crossed for that one to pick them up and

877
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Speaker 3: take them over hopefully they will get there climb.

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Speaker 11: We've got a bigger, bigger, yellow digger situation.

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Speaker 3: It is one of these there. Yeah, well, I think

880
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Speaker 3: we've got a back it. We've got a series of

881
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Speaker 3: planes backed up just in case number one, number two,

882
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Speaker 3: number three go down on climate change was what we

883
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Speaker 3: opened the program with. It doesn't look it doesn't look

884
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Speaker 3: like we're gonna get rid of this probably not news

885
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Speaker 3: to you. It doesn't look like we're gonna get rid

886
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Speaker 3: of coal anytime soon. There is a report out this

887
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Speaker 3: morning say that the world's coal use is expected to

888
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Speaker 3: hit a new record this year. This year, by the

889
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Speaker 3: looks of things, we're going to have burned our way

890
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Speaker 3: through eight point seven billion tons of coal across the globe.

891
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Speaker 3: And this is largely I mean, of course, there'll be

892
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Speaker 3: various reasons for it, unrelated to Ukraine, but largely because

893
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Speaker 3: of Ukraine, because of what's happened with the gas supply,

894
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Speaker 3: because of the Ukraine wards of course being disrupted and

895
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Speaker 3: has pushed up the gas prices. No one wants to

896
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Speaker 3: pay inflated gas prices. Turns out there and care about

897
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Speaker 3: the climate that much, they just start shoveling the black

898
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Speaker 3: stuff into the furnace anyway, So it's not going to

899
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Speaker 3: get better anytime soon. This is not a blip. It

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Speaker 3: looks like we are going to be burning pretty close

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Speaker 3: to record levels of coal this year twenty twenty five,

902
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, and possibly twenty twenty seven as well.

903
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Speaker 3: The US and the European Union. Their coal power generation

904
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Speaker 3: has already set a new record. Coal demand in China

905
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Speaker 3: is expected to grow by one percent this year. That's

906
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Speaker 3: a new record. India is expected to see demand grow

907
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Speaker 3: by more than five percent to one point three billion tons.

908
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Speaker 3: Now that level is important because that is a level

909
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Speaker 3: previously only China had ever reached, but now India is

910
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Speaker 3: going to reach that, so that's a record. So what

911
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: I'm trying to say to you is, don't feel too

912
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Speaker 3: bad about that massive coal stockpile that we've got at

913
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Speaker 3: Huntley and that we're going to be working our way

914
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Speaker 3: through next year, because apparently everyone's doing it.

915
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Speaker 2: Seven twenty one, The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

916
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Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio how It By News talks at.

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Speaker 3: Be seven twenty three listen. I think one of the

918
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Speaker 3: most surprising things about that Judge allegedly yelling at Winston

919
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: Peters in the Northern Club is that she still has

920
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Speaker 3: her job. Now, look, I want to be clear, I

921
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Speaker 3: don't want this judge to lose her job, and I

922
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Speaker 3: don't even want to be seen to be calling for

923
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Speaker 3: the scalp in this case. It's not what I'm doing.

924
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Speaker 3: I'm just pointing out that she should lose her job

925
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Speaker 3: over this, because what happened was actually quite serious. We

926
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Speaker 3: are talking here about a judge yelling, not denied by

927
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Speaker 3: the way, by her yelling at the deputy Prime minister,

928
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Speaker 3: the second most senior politician in this country and accusing him. Also,

929
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Speaker 3: this is not denied, accusing him of lying in front

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Speaker 3: of a group of people. Now you flip that around

931
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Speaker 3: and imagine it happened the other way. It's a senior

932
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Speaker 3: minister doing the same, a senior minister yelling at a

933
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Speaker 3: very senior judge and saying they're lying in front of

934
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Speaker 3: a room of people, and tell me that that minister

935
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Speaker 3: keeps their job. There is no way on God's Earth

936
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Speaker 3: that that minister keeps their job. No way it would

937
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Speaker 3: be tolerated, because no government, no Prime minister, would want

938
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Speaker 3: to be seen to be tolerating that kind of behavior.

939
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Speaker 3: Now it's got to be the same for the judiciary.

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Speaker 3: The judiciary cannot be seen to tolerate verbal attacks on

941
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Speaker 3: ministers of government, and particularly right now. I mean a

942
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 3: few years ago, maybe it wouldn't have mattered as much,

943
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Speaker 3: maybe we would cut them away bit of slack. But

944
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Speaker 3: right now there is actually considerable tension between the judiciary

945
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Speaker 3: and the government, to the point of it actually boiling

946
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Speaker 3: over at times. We have got courts and lawyers taking

947
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Speaker 3: cracks at Parliament. We've got Parliament passing multiple laws to

948
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Speaker 3: reign and judges. We've got accusations at of the White

949
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Speaker 3: Tongue Tribunal over reaching. We've got Shane Jones making comments

950
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Speaker 3: about so called activist judges and stuff like that. There

951
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Speaker 3: is a real concern at the moment that committee, which

952
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Speaker 3: is the mutual respect between the two, is breaking down.

953
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: Comedy is fundamental to a democracy like ours working. They

954
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: have to respect each other and they have to be

955
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: seen to be respecting each other. It is so bad

956
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: for the judiciary to be perceived to be this hostile

957
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: towards the current and government that I cannot see how

958
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Speaker 3: Emma Aitkin keeps her job seven twenty five. Now, this

959
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 3: is embarrassing for stats New Zealand. I don't know if

960
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Speaker 3: you've been following this, but there was a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a bit of a kerfuffle about how many people

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Speaker 3: lost their jobs in Wellington. So apparently Stats New Zealand

963
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Speaker 3: have been going around telling everybody that twenty thousand people

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Speaker 3: in Wellington have lost their jobs. They have just had

965
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Speaker 3: to correct that and in fact it's not twenty thousand

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Speaker 3: people who've lost their jobs. It's two thousand people have

967
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Speaker 3: lost their jobs, which feels like quite a big mistake

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Speaker 3: for the numbers guys to be making. So what that

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Speaker 3: means is the actual number of job losses is a

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Speaker 3: drop of about a two percent in the capital, not

971
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Speaker 3: a drop of eleven percent. They're blaming coding errors, which

972
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Speaker 3: is what I would I would do that as well.

973
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Speaker 3: I'd say it's a coding era that caused that trouble.

974
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Speaker 3: It was nothing to do with me as a coding era.

975
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Speaker 3: But I think that if we've got the guys who

976
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Speaker 3: are doing the numbers in this country unable to actually

977
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Speaker 3: properly do the numbers in this country, we have to start.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is if you were if you will worry,

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Speaker 3: if you were like I'm not convinced by Erica telling

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Speaker 3: the kids that they have to go and do an

981
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Speaker 3: hour of maths at school at primary school. Is this

982
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Speaker 3: not evidence that the kids not need to do an

983
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Speaker 3: hour of maths at school at primary school? When even

984
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Speaker 3: your statistics in New Zealand people can't quite figure out

985
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Speaker 3: what's going.

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Speaker 16: On so much for AI, surely you couldn't you just

987
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Speaker 16: plug that under chet GPT.

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Speaker 3: You could probably just do that. You could probably just

989
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Speaker 3: I don't know, you could. That feels like a strong

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Speaker 3: case for a consultant. How do you feel about that?

991
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: I feel like I would. I would send some money,

992
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 3: spend some money on the consultants, get them in to

993
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: help old stats New Zealand out heither g High performance

994
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: sport funding can be brutal. Do as well as we

995
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: do in a smaller mainly individual duo sports get more money,

996
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: don't do well, which is all is really tough for

997
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: the large team sports, and your funding is slashed for

998
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: three years, making it even tougher to achieve, and then

999
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: the new athletes to the sports suffer. This is of

1000
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: course the fact that high news high what's it high

1001
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: performance sport news has been handing out the cash right

1002
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: We're going to talk to them after the news about this.

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00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 3: Nothing for surfing, nothing for football, cuts for the rugby

1004
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: sevens boys because they didn't do well enough at the

1005
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: Olympics and the Calm Games and so on, which feels

1006
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: like if you haven't off year, you get punished and

1007
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 3: it gets even harder. We'll just talk to them about

1008
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Speaker 3: whether this is the right model for the funding. News

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Speaker 3: Talks head.

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Speaker 2: By news Bold Opinions. Heather Duplicy Allen on the mic

1011
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Speaker 2: hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed to intrigue

1012
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: and use talks dead.

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Speaker 3: B I'm sorry, Heather, but that judge is not fit

1014
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: to sit in her seat and pass judgment over me

1015
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: sitting caught and look at her and all you'll see

1016
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: is the yobbo with power. This is the trouble as

1017
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: well that they've got right. If you know that the

1018
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: judge has been behaving like this in private, it's kind

1019
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 3: of hard to respect the situation if you're sitting in court,

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Speaker 3: or if you're reading any of their judgments or anything

1021
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: like that. Anyway, listen, after eight o'clock, Mark Hadlow is

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Speaker 3: going to be with us. Mark, of course, being one

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Speaker 3: of the Dwarves and Lord of the Rings. Really well

1024
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Speaker 3: known actor. He did a few years back. He did

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Speaker 3: a stage show called Mammal which was like middle aged

1026
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Speaker 3: men and lycra and it was immensely popular. He's now

1027
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Speaker 3: done a sequel to it called Grommel, which is I

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Speaker 3: think grumpy old men or something like that in lycra,

1029
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Speaker 3: which frankly sounds like it would be quite a hoot

1030
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Speaker 3: because there is nothing worse than a grumpy old man

1031
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Speaker 3: who also is a road cyclist. So we'll talk to

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00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: him about it after eight o'clock. Right now, it's twenty

1033
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: two away from eight. So as always, there have been

1034
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: winners and there have been losers. In the last round

1035
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Speaker 3: of high performance sport funding and the lead up to

1036
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Speaker 3: Alay's Olympics, one hundred and sixty three million dollars is

1037
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Speaker 3: heading to thirty six different sports. High Performance Sport in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, director Steve chewers with us now morning.

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Speaker 19: Steve, Good morning, How are you.

1040
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Speaker 14: Ye?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well. Thank You had some tough calls in you, didn't.

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Speaker 19: You We did. Yeah. As you said in your intro,

1043
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Speaker 19: there's always sports that are happy at the end of

1044
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Speaker 19: this process and some that are disappointed and that's that's

1045
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Speaker 19: very unfortunate.

1046
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, now tell me why you're not funding hockey.

1047
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 19: Well, we are funding hockey, so to be clear, they're

1048
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Speaker 19: still a decent dunk hold in the end government money

1049
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Speaker 19: and behind hockey, but it's a significant drop that we're

1050
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Speaker 19: about half. Yeah about that speaking, it's a difficult it's

1051
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Speaker 19: a very difficult decision for hockey. But over a long

1052
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Speaker 19: period of time we haven't had the success that this

1053
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Speaker 19: investment is seeking and we've had to make some tough

1054
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Speaker 19: calls because we had requests for about fifty seven million

1055
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Speaker 19: and we had lest of forty Just other forty one

1056
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Speaker 19: million has distribute well.

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Speaker 3: Because the thing about hockeys, Hockey's never done particularly well,

1058
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Speaker 3: has it. So are you looking at it over as

1059
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Speaker 3: series of events rather than just the last one.

1060
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Speaker 19: Well, we look past performance as an informer of what's

1061
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Speaker 19: going to happen in the future, but we're really looking

1062
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Speaker 19: at what's in front of us now and we know

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Speaker 19: that you know, New Zealander's got inspired when we went

1064
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Speaker 19: Paris and we won twenty medals, ten cold we're the

1065
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Speaker 19: day we were won three, which was pretty magic. Those

1066
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Speaker 19: are very high achievements for a country. Of our sives

1067
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Speaker 19: we can repeat anything like that. We really need to

1068
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Speaker 19: hone in on those sports, those athletes and teams that

1069
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Speaker 19: are tracking towards top eight and podium in LA and

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Speaker 19: at the moment we don't believe hockey are in that category.

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Speaker 3: But what about rugby sevens because and this is the

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Speaker 3: men's not the women. The men had a bit of

1073
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Speaker 3: a bummer, but generally we do quite well in it.

1074
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Speaker 3: So why cut their funding?

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Speaker 19: Well, again, we just don't have enough money to do that.

1076
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Speaker 19: We would like. We certainly celebrate what the bat provency

1077
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Speaker 19: of us have done. They're our most successful team sport.

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Speaker 19: I think certy in the Olympic a violent and it's

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Speaker 19: not full stop with new Yond the men, they've won

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Speaker 19: one medal of the three Olympics. We believe they're still

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Speaker 19: a medal prospect, which is why we still left a

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Speaker 19: reasonable amount of support them behind them, which other sports

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Speaker 19: where we look at it and go that's quite a

1084
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Speaker 19: big number. But they had to take a cat as

1085
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 19: well because they didn't achieve in Paris.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what about tennis because I see you guys

1087
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: bumped up the funding. What are you seeing there that

1088
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: looks so promising to you, Well.

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Speaker 19: There's a potential woman's double peering there that's very exciting,

1090
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Speaker 19: and that's a campaign will monitor as we go through.

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Speaker 3: Which one is that one?

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Speaker 19: Aaron and Sulan?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so possibility. Do you think they're of something actually

1094
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: developing and it becoming a big thing.

1095
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Speaker 19: Well, you've got someone ranked I think number one and

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Speaker 19: one of the doubles and someone ranked them the top

1097
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 19: especially have we've got their information in front of me?

1098
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 19: Sorry either, but yeah, new pairing and really have money

1099
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 19: is only to give them a chance to play together

1100
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 19: more often and to have some individual peering.

1101
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Speaker 3: Coach Steve, is this the best way to do it?

1102
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: Because it feels to me like, you know, if you're

1103
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Speaker 3: having a bit of a like let's take the example

1104
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: of the men's rugby, right the sevens. They generally do

1105
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 3: really well, they have a bit of an off period

1106
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: and then their funding gets cut, which just will make

1107
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: that so much harder to climb out of it. So

1108
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: it almost compounds the problem.

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Speaker 19: Well, and obviously we're always looking at to see if

1110
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 19: we can do these things better either, and I don't

1111
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 19: think there's ever a right answer. I mean, we had

1112
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Speaker 19: we had the meetings with over fifty organzations which needed

1113
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Speaker 19: to be moderated. And as I say, you know, we

1114
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 19: were a number of way way more of what we

1115
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 19: had to distribute. So our teams went through I think

1116
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 19: maybe a dozen iterations of what the funding general might

1117
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 19: look like, and in the end we had to say, actually,

1118
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 19: there's no perfect answer here either. I mean in the

1119
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 19: sense of the decision for men that mean three Olympics

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Speaker 19: in one one metal. We believe there were prospects. We're

1121
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 19: backed them with some funding and not the extent that

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Speaker 19: they got last time. Consequences are not performing.

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Speaker 3: Now let's talk about the sports. Esports is not a

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Speaker 3: sport as it Steve Well.

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Speaker 19: We categorize it as a sport, but it's not. Actually,

1126
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Speaker 19: Oh that doesn't matter for you. You can have your

1127
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 19: own views. I mean, certainly more us on then the

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Speaker 19: group considered esport to be a sport. I mean there

1129
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Speaker 19: are three categories of esports too. You've got to remember,

1130
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 19: you know, there's the simulated games as traditional gaming, and

1131
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 19: then there and then there's what we now I think

1132
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Speaker 19: they can think about it. Once were cycling when the

1133
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Speaker 19: sleek so you've got people singing on bikes and the IRGs. Yeah,

1134
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 19: it said other electronically, it's definitely a physical activity, and

1135
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 19: you've got those that play the virtual games. So we

1136
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 19: don't it's not an issue for us that whether it's

1137
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Speaker 19: a spot or not. We just don't believe that they

1138
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Speaker 19: are currently tracking towards.

1139
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Speaker 3: How does it be classified as a sport? I mean,

1140
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 3: why why is that a sport?

1141
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 19: And I don't know scrabbles not well that you could

1142
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 19: ask people of higher authority than mine. The io c

1143
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 19: are certainly deems it to be a sport. They're holding

1144
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 19: an Esport Olympics every two years, so we're specified it

1145
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 19: as a sport, and I would say, this is the

1146
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 19: name I was looking for that the cycling, you know,

1147
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 19: people sitting on a wind wheel or on an electronic

1148
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 19: cycle doing a virtual race, that's most definitely physical activity. Yeah,

1149
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 19: a couple of other versions of people might question, but

1150
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 19: that's the something they hither say.

1151
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 15: We didn't.

1152
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 19: We didn't make the decision around esport based on their

1153
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 19: classification of a sport or not. We'd love to bear

1154
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 19: their athletes coming through what we know is going to

1155
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 19: happen at the Games, which is not very much yet,

1156
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 19: and decided we didn't have the funds to back them.

1157
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: So in the future, given that we classified as a sport,

1158
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 3: if they do well in their in their their E sport, Olympics, whatever,

1159
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 3: it is potential for us to actually fund them. Yeah.

1160
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Speaker 19: Yeah, And in fact, we've said to everybody who we

1161
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 19: haven't been able to fund this time around, we'll keep

1162
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 19: a relationship open because there's a lot of really good

1163
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 19: work going on here. The sports guys are really well organized,

1164
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 19: they've got a great program, and we're sorry we can't

1165
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 19: help them at this particular point in time. The things

1166
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 19: change and on we get some more funding. Then were

1167
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Speaker 19: very able to a conversation as we were during the

1168
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Speaker 19: last cycle. We made some adjustments between Tokyo Embarrasson and

1169
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 19: many of those paid off for us.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Steve, thanks very much, really appreciate it. Steve Chu,

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Speaker 3: High Performance Sport New Zealand director, hither the sports are

1172
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Speaker 3: not a sport? Heither did you know that bridges considered

1173
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: a sports as well? I just wondering about categorization of

1174
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: what does the sport has maybe perhaps a little bit wide.

1175
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 3: What do you think I mean? It's not like I'm

1176
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 3: trying to figure out I'm trying to figure out why

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Speaker 3: I don't think these things are sports, but I just

1178
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Speaker 3: think it's it's probably ultimately a lack of understanding of

1179
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 3: what makes this thing. So I don't understand what makes

1180
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 3: you very special. If you sit with a PlayStation in

1181
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 3: your hand and toggle it with your thumbs, I mean,

1182
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: I feel like I am a boom. I know that

1183
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 3: in my spirit that I know that this is a

1184
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 3: generational thing. You try and tell a tell one of

1185
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: the young ones whatever they call gen zs or whatever.

1186
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 3: This They probably disagree with me entirely, but I can

1187
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 3: see the effort that's being made in order for, you know,

1188
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,959
Speaker 3: somebody to do the high jump or run really fast

1189
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: on a ragbyfield. Can't quite see the effort that's going

1190
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Speaker 3: on when you're doing the esports. Prince Andrew, just a

1191
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: quick update on this clown. He's pulled out of another

1192
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: family event in the wake of this Chinese spy drama.

1193
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 3: He's not going to attend the Royal family's Christmas lunch

1194
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 3: at Buckingham Palace, which I think is actually overnight our time.

1195
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 3: Apparently the officials had nothing to do with this. It

1196
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: was he and Fergie. They were having a big old

1197
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: row about it and Fergie finally persuaded him it would

1198
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: be best if he didn't attend the family lunch. So

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Speaker 3: Andrew is increasingly being cut out of all the things.

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Speaker 3: And as I said the other day, I feel like

1201
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 3: Charles might just want to cut him out of everything

1202
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: from here on in, because he's clearly quite a liability.

1203
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: Quarter two The my Casking Breakfast, a full show podcast

1204
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Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio POW News Talk.

1205
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Speaker 3: Sa'd be look if you were wondering when Steve was

1206
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: talking about the tennis he was talking about the doubles team,

1207
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 3: and if you thought, I don't who are these people?

1208
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 3: These people.

1209
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Speaker 19: Aaron and Sulu.

1210
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: Yes, Sulu. Sulu would be Lulu soon. So just so that,

1211
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: just so that you know what we're put I'm glad

1212
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: he knows what I'm glad he knows what he's doing.

1213
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 11: Regard Ditric. Just just clearing that up.

1214
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Speaker 19: No, no, just the other the burdens Aaron and.

1215
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lulu anyway, never mind. Look, he's new to the job.

1216
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: He's been doing rugby for a very long time. John

1217
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 3: Marsden has died. Very sad news. Now John Marsden, you'd

1218
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: be like, oh, who's that guy. That's the guy who

1219
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: wrote The Tomorrow When the War Began series, which I

1220
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: would venture a guess, is a series of books. There

1221
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 3: was about seven of them, wasn't It came out in

1222
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 3: the early nineties, So I would say, came out in

1223
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: the early nineties. Teen fiction. What is that? That kid's

1224
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 3: born in nineteen eighty so it's pretty much anybody born

1225
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 3: from nineteen eighty on would So you're talking about forty

1226
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 3: forty three ish and under should know these books. Teen

1227
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 3: fiction seri. He's set in Australia when the Southeast Asian

1228
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 3: country comes and invades. It was gripping, amazing stuff. I

1229
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: just spent a lot of time at the library when

1230
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: those books came out at secondary school. Anyway, that's so good.

1231
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: I saw one the other day in an opshop and

1232
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 3: the Corimandel and are bullshed. So I'm starting the collection

1233
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: for the kid to read in about ten years or thereabouts. Anyway.

1234
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 3: John Marsden, after he wrote all of these books, went

1235
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: on to found a couple of schools and he was

1236
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: a principal. I think it was a principle at one

1237
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 3: of the schools, was teaching at schools and stuff. Anyway,

1238
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 3: one of the schools sent a letter to the parents

1239
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 3: confirming his death, saying he died at his desk at home,

1240
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 3: doing what he loved, which was writing. Ten away from at.

1241
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: Heather Duplessy Ellen pond done by costing breakfast with Bailey's

1242
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Speaker 2: real estate news talks.

1243
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Speaker 1: There'd be Heather.

1244
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Speaker 3: If darts, pool and bowling are considered sports, then esports

1245
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 3: are also sports because it involves very fine motor skills

1246
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 3: and reaction times. Thank you. Actually were going to talk

1247
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 3: about darts later on seven away from eight. So the

1248
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 3: House Parliament has wrapped up for twenty twenty four and

1249
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 3: the tradition right there are political jibes aimed at opponents

1250
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 3: with a bit more levity and a little bit we

1251
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 3: holiday year attached to them. Chris Luxon got to go first,

1252
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 3: mister Speaker.

1253
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 22: I have to say the most troubling part of Chris

1254
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 22: Hippins's recent labor conference must have been the flight back

1255
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 22: to Wellington. During the safety briefing, flight attendants had to

1256
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 22: intervene because he instinctively started blowing into the mouthpiece for

1257
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 22: more inflation.

1258
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: He doesn't think Hipkins has done very much this year.

1259
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 22: Now, to my colleagues on the other side of the House,

1260
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 22: the leader of the opposition Chloe Swarbrick that she is

1261
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 22: a common Between those two statements.

1262
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: There was a dig at the Maori party's capital gains tax,

1263
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: which is just asking for it, isn't it. And then

1264
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 3: the Greens were in the firing line and.

1265
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 22: I have to say a few folks went so opposed

1266
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 22: to it. We would have happily, happily added Darlinge Tana's

1267
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 22: resignation to our fast track lists.

1268
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 3: And deservedly there were digs at the media.

1269
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 22: Thank you for always holding me to account and for

1270
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 22: always being so fair and balanced. I wish you a

1271
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 22: very happy and safe holiday. Please do take as.

1272
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 19: Long as you need.

1273
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 3: And then of course the coalition partners.

1274
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 22: Shane Jones, he's been mischievous this year, but we've worked

1275
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 22: out why he's the first person to get on the

1276
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 22: naughty list so that he can get a lump.

1277
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: Of cold.

1278
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: And he had a dig for Act as well.

1279
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 22: Secret Sander with ACT this year was a disaster, though

1280
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 22: they wouldn't stop taking credit for every present.

1281
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: Hapkins obviously got his turn to respect.

1282
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 23: Didn't see on Facebook this morning a very.

1283
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: Cruel meme which compared.

1284
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 16: The Prime Minister to the Captain of Thy Titanic, and

1285
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 16: I actually thought, hang on.

1286
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 11: To that's really really unfair. The captain of the Titanic

1287
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 11: had a ship which this government hasn't.

1288
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: The fairy announcement was obviously always going to be very

1289
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: very easy fodder for him.

1290
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 16: What does he think Nichola Willis is more likely to

1291
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 16: replace next year the Inter Island Fair or him as

1292
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 16: Prime Minister.

1293
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 3: Now, obviously Shane Jones wasn't going to let them keep

1294
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 3: talking without putting himself in the firing line.

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Speaker 22: To all of the Farno and families of all MPs

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Speaker 22: who make huge sacrifices, and well, his family makes a

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Speaker 22: sacrifice every day just for being his family.

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Speaker 3: Now are you ready for it? Because it's coming Chloe,

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Speaker 3: total down buzz.

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Speaker 23: And I know that these end of view debates are

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Speaker 23: supposed to contain a few good jabs and jokes, but

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Speaker 23: missus Feaker, this game sucks, and Missus Viggar, the people out.

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Speaker 3: There know it cool. So she was the cool kit

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Speaker 3: who turned up and just ruined the party. Then it

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Speaker 3: was David's turn.

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Speaker 1: Mister Vigger.

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Speaker 24: I'm a little bit indignant to say that this is

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Speaker 24: my eleventh adjournment debate speech. I've been here so long

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Speaker 24: I can remember when Chloe Swarbrick was actually fun.

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Speaker 3: And then of course he wasn't going to let the

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Speaker 3: thing from lux and the secret Santa joke just go.

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Speaker 11: Now, let's just clear this up.

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Speaker 24: You see, I actually thought it was a game of

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Speaker 24: past the parcel because there seemed to be a layer

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Speaker 24: of blue rapping over all the pink wrapping that we've

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Speaker 24: been trying to give to the public.

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Speaker 3: And of course Winston. You can't end without a little

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Speaker 3: bit from Winston, who got into a sparring match obviously

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Speaker 3: with Rahwity white Ts.

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Speaker 25: So stand back and watch when you declare Warnerts, you're

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Speaker 25: gonna reply that's coming next year. So you haven't good

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Speaker 25: Christmas because you'll need at sunshine down and your beg

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Speaker 25: loud mouth.

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00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: It's not helping you longer.

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00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 5: It ain't got some idea, but.

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Speaker 25: He was his mouth that the windblow's tongue around is

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Speaker 25: gonna make some sense.

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Speaker 1: But Leavable never seen the lightsman.

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Speaker 3: Oh, everybody's having such a good time, weren't they. And

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Speaker 3: then Chloe and then Winston and Wey the usual suspects. Right,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have a chat to Mark Hadlow, who is

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Speaker 3: gonna be with us straight up to eight o'clock. Mark,

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Speaker 3: of course, the Lord of the Rings will chat to

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00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 3: him about that house stage going the stage shows in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand and I think actually his house got hit

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Speaker 3: by a MUD's slide recently, so we have a chat

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Speaker 3: to him about you. One thing that's going on in

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Speaker 3: is Likra right now. News tugs dB.

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Speaker 2: Demanding the answers from the decision makers can then duplessy

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Speaker 2: Ellen on the Mike Hosking.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate.

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Speaker 2: Your local experts across residential, commercial and rural news dogs

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Speaker 2: head b.

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Speaker 3: Dashing through this now seven pass state. Now most Keywis

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Speaker 3: will know the name Mark Hadlow. He's a New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Order of Merit recipient. He's been in King Kong, He's

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Speaker 3: been in the Hobbit. He's an actor, comedian, singer, writer,

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Speaker 3: producer and director. Frankly, what is he not? He's also

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Speaker 3: a grumpy old man in Lykra at least on stage.

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Speaker 3: You might remember back in twenty seventeen, Mark had a

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Speaker 3: one man show called Mammal, which was middle aged man

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01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 3: and lycra It's all about the male midlife crisis. And

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01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 3: you know turning to the road cycling to relieve it

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Speaker 3: and stuff. He's now giving us Mammal two Gommel, which

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Speaker 3: is grumpy old man and Lira, and it's coming to

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Speaker 3: the Isaac Theater next year. Mark Hadlow is with us now, Mark.

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Speaker 14: Morning and how I I'm very well.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. You've done the show before having you've done

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Speaker 3: it in Nelson, didn't you.

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Speaker 26: We opened it Nelson about three weeks ago, and I

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Speaker 26: loved it. Yeah, it was great being back in the saddle.

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Speaker 14: Oh, dear Lordie.

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Speaker 3: When you say back in the saddle, do you mean

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Speaker 3: back in the saddle on stage or literally cycling saddle?

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Speaker 14: No, cyclingaddle.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 26: Those show opens with a big sequence, so it's really

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Speaker 26: interesting getting back on Pinerello again. Oh my goodness, mate,

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Speaker 26: are you.

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Speaker 3: Are you spending long enough in the saddle to get

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Speaker 3: us all butt?

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Speaker 14: It's was very sore. It was very short.

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Speaker 26: When I got back on for rehearsals, I said to

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Speaker 26: Greg Recooper, I said, who was directing?

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Speaker 14: I said, Greg, I don't think I can do this again.

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Speaker 26: It's too sore, It said, Just man up, will you?

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Speaker 3: You haven't gone for one of those gel padded butt things.

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Speaker 14: No goodness, you know that's cheating.

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Speaker 26: That's very cheating, Yes, because you've got to develop your

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Speaker 26: your bottom muscles. If you don't, it ends up you

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Speaker 26: can't make contact with the seat. And the show is

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Speaker 26: a little bit quick to get in and off the saddle.

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Speaker 26: So I got a jel seat. I might slip off.

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Speaker 26: It would be really painful down in amongst the engineering

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Speaker 26: of the set, and I would be crushed.

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Speaker 14: So I've got to be careful.

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Speaker 3: So I take it from the fact that your butt

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Speaker 3: muscles are not actually attuned to the bike, you're not

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Speaker 3: actually a road cyclist at all.

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Speaker 26: In real life, I am a little bit not as

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Speaker 26: much as I used to be, but I am about

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Speaker 26: to get back into it. There's some lots of pressure

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Speaker 26: now for me to go and do some promotional stuff

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Speaker 26: and Scotti Brown and I have been read to a

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Speaker 26: sort of a pilot for a little TV thing called

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Speaker 26: to a Demotwo, which is going to be very exciting.

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Speaker 26: We're very excited about that.

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Speaker 20: Mark.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to get into road cycling. I really would

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Speaker 3: like to, but it freaks me out. I just get

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01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 3: maybe I'm consuming too many stories about people being knocked

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Speaker 3: off their bikes, But do you not worry about.

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Speaker 26: It, nah, because you've got to have a bit of

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Speaker 26: common sense and you just ride sensibly. I remember when

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Speaker 26: I was a kid. You ride on the left hand

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Speaker 26: side of the road. That's where you ride. You don't

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Speaker 26: ride in pairs, you don't ride in threes, you don't

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Speaker 26: ride in fours. You just obey all of the road rules.

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Speaker 26: Simple mark.

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Speaker 3: What about the numpties in the cars? You're going to

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Speaker 3: open their door just as you come and then you're

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Speaker 3: into them.

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Speaker 26: Well, that's common sense awareness. You seekw parked up on

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Speaker 26: the left, you know, you look in it, you see

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Speaker 26: if someone's there. You've just got to apply common sense seriously,

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Speaker 26: that's it.

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Speaker 14: And also not being numpty.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, you've got to put it complete care for your

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Speaker 26: click and where where and where like, because chafing.

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Speaker 1: Is not worth it.

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Speaker 14: I love it.

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Speaker 3: You're actually turning into quite the road cyclist here. Well, okay,

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Speaker 3: so if you if you are a road cyclist, which

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Speaker 3: is what at least one half of the content of

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Speaker 3: the show, what about the other half, which is having

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Speaker 3: a midlife chrisis?

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Speaker 14: Half? Have you had enough?

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Speaker 3: I was just say, have you had the midlife crisis

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Speaker 3: as well?

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Speaker 14: Oh? I had those. I've had three or four along

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Speaker 14: the way.

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Speaker 26: I think this time it's about a little bit of

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Speaker 26: the older perspective from Wayne.

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Speaker 14: Did you see the show? Do you see Mammal?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 3: Never?

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Speaker 26: Okay, Well, in in Mammal we had other characters. Was

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Speaker 26: called Wayne who had a very very distinctive riding pedling

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Speaker 26: technique and it was very funny. It is very funny,

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Speaker 26: and it's actually based on someone I knew when I

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Speaker 26: joined a peloton when I was doing the Hobbit. That's

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Speaker 26: how us all eventuated. I was doing the Hobbit, I

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Speaker 26: went with Titling and I met Mike. Mike had this

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Speaker 26: extraordinary peddling style, and I said, that's got to be

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Speaker 26: in the show, so we copied it. So he'll probably

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Speaker 26: assume me.

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Speaker 3: One day for Oh, what's the pedlock style?

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Speaker 26: It's called knees a kimbo?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Is it knees splayed? I do that?

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Speaker 14: Mark?

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01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 3: Is that not?

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Speaker 15: Well?

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Speaker 26: That's okay, I do it all the time. Maybe we

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Speaker 26: should go riding sometimes together and compare his blade knees.

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Speaker 3: Well, now I'm going to be really embarrassed about this.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of the Hobbit, have you got anything to do

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Speaker 3: with what's going on at the moment with coming back

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Speaker 3: around and doing all the lording stuff.

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Speaker 14: No, I haven't.

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Speaker 26: I've heard of it, but no, not really. I don't

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Speaker 26: think they're anywhere near any pasting decisions or whatever. And

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Speaker 26: I'm not I'm not at I don't know anything about it.

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Speaker 26: I'm too busy trying to get Gomel off the of

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Speaker 26: the off the cab rank. So you know that's going

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Speaker 26: pretty well. So, I mean, obviously it's exciting. Heck, anything

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Speaker 26: that come out of some of that stable is wonderful.

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Speaker 26: I mean anything now do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: It's still got the appeal that it had back in

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Speaker 3: the day.

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Speaker 26: I think so, because you know, I mean anything to

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Speaker 26: do with Lord of the Rings of the Hobbit, you

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Speaker 26: know we're talking about. You know, the fan base in

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Speaker 26: itself is enormous. There's millions of people who the writing

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Speaker 26: and let alone, what what Peter and Fran and Sulivan

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Speaker 26: can come out with, of course involving Andy Serkis So

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Speaker 26: you know, I mean, it's a great it's a great start.

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Speaker 26: That's that's a core basis to kick anything off. And

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Speaker 26: I think anything about anything that's produced or in New

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Speaker 26: Zealand in the film industry has to be. It has

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Speaker 26: to be an advantage, you know, as long as New

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Speaker 26: Zealanders are involved obviously, which is a great thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you need the work. Add it's queer to bring

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Speaker 3: the work here. We'll take a quick break, come back

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Speaker 3: to you just very shortly. That's Mark Hadlock eight thirteen.

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Speaker 2: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: by News.

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Speaker 3: Talks a B sixteen past eight and we're back with

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Speaker 3: Mark Hadlow, who is bringing mambl two to Stage Buck.

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Speaker 3: How's it going, by the way with theater at the moment.

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Speaker 14: That's pretty hard.

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01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 26: Finance is obviously a major concern. Funding has dried up

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01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 26: a bit, well, not ale bit a lot, and people

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Speaker 26: are being obviously a little bit coy about buying tickets

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Speaker 26: to get to anything that's live. And you know, the

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Speaker 26: priority here is making sure whatever we're putting on its quality.

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Speaker 26: It's got to have you know, significant you know, significant content, gravitas,

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Speaker 26: et cetera, if you'd like to call it. And it's

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Speaker 26: also about professional and we've got to see some talent

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Speaker 26: and you've got we've got to have work for the

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Speaker 26: talent that's coming up through musical. I'm seeing a lot

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Speaker 26: of young actors now, both of all the gen I mean,

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Speaker 26: of all the diversities coming up, and there's some extraordinary stuff,

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Speaker 26: but how they get that out there is just really hard.

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Speaker 14: The outlet. You know something that I'm.

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Speaker 26: Trying very hard to keep repeating, which is about getting

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Speaker 26: people into a theater, getting people into any venue. It's

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Speaker 26: a live entertainment, specifically acting. We're not seeing an awful

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Speaker 26: lot of it out there, but everyone's trying very hard

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Speaker 26: to get things up and running.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that part of what you're battling is

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Speaker 3: increasing isolation? You know, us us isolating ourselves because we

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Speaker 3: I mean, you see this with the kids nowadays, right

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01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 3: they just basically go home after school and lie all

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Speaker 3: evening in their rooms with their phones. And I think

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01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 3: adults are doing it as well.

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Speaker 26: I think you've hit the nail on the head. I

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01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 26: think it is about that. I think it's some and

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01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 26: with that, and what's coming with that is, of course,

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01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 26: our loss of being able to communicate to each other.

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01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 26: Because we're doing it all through a phone. We're losing

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01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 26: the ability to be able to actually put words together,

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01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 26: to talk to someone, to look someone in the eye

1524
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 26: and say, gosh, you look great today?

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Speaker 14: Or what's wrong?

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01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 26: Can I help you? We're missing a lot of that

1527
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,520
Speaker 26: from our psyche, our social, our social.

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Speaker 14: You know, reasoning.

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01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 26: So more communication, and that's what theater does, that's what

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01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 26: we do with I mean shows that, like what we're doing,

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01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 26: Gomble is not about anything other than actually the social

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01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 26: issues that are happening for the older generation as they

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01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 26: get near retirement age.

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Speaker 14: This is what Gomble too, Mammal two is about.

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Speaker 26: And it's some really important stuff about kids, grandparents, about kids, parents,

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01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 26: It's about all that.

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Speaker 14: And that's about communication.

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Speaker 26: Boom boom boom.

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01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 3: Speaking of the phones though, So I went and stalked

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01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 3: you on your social media and I didn't realize you

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Speaker 3: were in the navy.

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01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 14: Yeah still are I know? I? Yeah?

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01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: I How did you get the navy?

1544
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 3: Are you actually trained or like I was.

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01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 26: In the Navy when I left school. I joined the

1546
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 26: New Zealand Navy when I was sixteen, went into the

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01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 26: navy three and a half years, left, and then joined

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Speaker 26: the reserves back in two thousand and seven, I think,

1549
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 26: and then and then and then dubiously lost a little

1550
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 26: bit of my rank due to a really bad thing.

1551
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 14: What did you do? I was naughty.

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01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 26: I went over the top ten. Oh, I can't say

1553
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 26: because it's actually it's a Fital Secrets Act.

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01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 14: No, I'm kidding.

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01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 26: No, I went a little bit overboard at a function

1556
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 26: I was doing. So I got reprimanded by d c N.

1557
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:48,520
Speaker 26: And so I got told to that i'd been naughty.

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01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 3: Did you have too many sherbets?

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01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 26: Yeah, no, no I didn't have too many sherbets, but

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01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 26: most us had a lot of sherbets. And I went

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01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 26: up on the table and said something I shouldn't have said,

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01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 26: and then I got, you know, the deputy check the

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01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 26: Navy was not happy with me, and so I stood

1564
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 26: in front of him and I apologized and said, there's

1565
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 26: nothing I can say, sir, than I did overstep the mark,

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Speaker 26: and I apologize.

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01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 3: Well, judging judging by the uniform you had on in

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01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 3: the Instagram picture, you look like you're still pretty senior.

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01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 3: Like it's a pretty flash uniform.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 26: Well, I think I'm the oldest lieutenant in the ryle

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Speaker 26: using a Navy reserve.

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Speaker 3: Just because the Navy uniforms are so flash, it looks

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Speaker 3: flash than it actually is.

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Speaker 20: They do look good.

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Speaker 3: Before I let you go, how's your house? Because it's

1577
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 3: all got hit by a mud slide.

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Speaker 26: Oh fine, absolutely fine, And it's beautiful place, beautiful Placetifi

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Speaker 26: valley of the view when you wake up in the

1580
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 26: morning looking across the whole of the able Tasman is

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Speaker 26: absolutely sensational.

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Speaker 14: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Well, if it's back in order, that's probably because your

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01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 3: wife sorted that.

1585
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Speaker 26: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. When I get to Auckland with Gommel,

1586
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Speaker 26: I'm going to ring you and we're going to go

1587
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 26: out for a ride seriously and we're going to tour

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Speaker 26: later in the year. So but chrost Church is going

1589
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Speaker 26: to get it in February.

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Speaker 3: I will do it with you and then you can

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Speaker 3: judge my leg style for me.

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Speaker 26: Make wait to see Okay, thanks Heaven, look out.

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Speaker 3: To yourself a and have a merry Christmas. That's Mark Hadlow.

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Speaker 3: Mark's doing Gommal Mammal two, Gomal, Grumpy Old Man and Liicra.

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Speaker 3: It's going to the isaat Theater in February from February

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Speaker 3: ten to twenty one, and then after that, as he said,

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Speaker 3: touring the country as well eight to twenty one.

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Speaker 3: The Federal reserve over in the States, by the way,

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Speaker 3: is just lowered interest rates done. Another cut there by

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Speaker 3: twenty five basis points, but is signaling that all the

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01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 3: additional rates cuts that everybody's expecting that's going to slow down.

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01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 3: There may not be as many because that's still a

1630
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 3: bit worried that the old inflation is going to hang

1631
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Speaker 3: around eight twenty five now Canada, So a couple of

1632
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 3: days ago you will recall the Finance minister quit and

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01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 3: since then he's he had a whole bunch of other MPs,

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01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 3: his own MPs and a support party's MPs calling on

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Speaker 3: him to quit as well. In the face of that.

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Speaker 3: Given that that's going on, there is increasing speculation he's

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01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 3: going to have to resign at some stage. The question

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01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 3: is what happens from here, and bunch of commentator is

1639
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 3: looking at it reckon. There are four outcomes for old

1640
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 3: mate with the sunny ways. Number one, he could just

1641
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 3: go ahead and quit. He's not showing any sign that

1642
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 3: he wants to quit, so that's probably not going to happen.

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01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 3: The second one is that he basically hangs on and

1644
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 3: wathers the storm and just hopes that this pass it passes.

1645
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 3: It's possible, but given the level of I think it's

1646
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 3: about a third of his MPs now want him to

1647
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 3: quit publicly, that's massive. That's really credibility damaging. So maybe

1648
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 3: he won't be able to do that. They could call

1649
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 3: a no confidence vote on him. If that happens and

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 3: he loses, then he would be expected to resign and

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01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 3: that would take them to an election, which he would lose.

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01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: But the thing is Parliament has now adjourned for the year,

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01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 3: so they don't come back until at least late January,

1654
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 3: so he's okay until then. In terms of a no

1655
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 3: confidence vote. He could also prorogue parliament to basically buy

1656
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 3: him time and avoid that happening. And he actually did

1657
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 3: do that about four years ago, so it wouldn't be

1658
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 3: all that unusual for him to have a crack at

1659
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 3: something like that. So possibly possibly the end of the

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01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 3: sunnyways for my mate Justin Trudeau. And I'll tell you

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01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 3: what I would branch out if he such is my

1662
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 3: disdain for him. I don't know why we've discussed this

1663
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 3: on the show. Such is my dislike that, I reckon

1664
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,919
Speaker 3: if he quit and I was still pregnant, I'd probably

1665
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 3: have a sip of champagne. I will go there. I'd

1666
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 3: crack a nice bottle. I'd give the whole bottle to

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01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 3: somebody else, which is just just just just to make

1668
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 3: a little just to you know, put it in there, Heather.

1669
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 3: What the judge said to Winston, he had coming nowhere

1670
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 3: near as bad as the drunken Bailey abusing a worker

1671
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 3: just doing his job. Don't be selective on who should

1672
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 3: be fired or not. Difference between that is judge was angry,

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01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 3: Bailey was making a bad joke. So I don't have

1674
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 3: quite the same level of that. You know what I mean.

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01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 3: News is next. I'm just crazy about horses.

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and views.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 2: Life your Way, news talks that'd.

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Speaker 3: Be This is interesting. I just spotted this. There is

1680
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Speaker 3: at this time of year you get these regular sort

1681
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 3: of end of year interviews that everybody in politics does.

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Speaker 3: And by the looks of things, labor and the Greens

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01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 3: and those guys have all given a round of end

1684
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Speaker 3: of year interviews and they've talked about working with each

1685
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 3: other and it sounds like they are going to be

1686
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,560
Speaker 3: teaming up formally and presenting themselves as some sort of

1687
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 3: an alternative government. Labour's been downplaying this. Labors said, oh,

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01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 3: there are that basically confirmed. Yeah, the parties are having

1689
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 3: these three way chats. They have chats together, they get together,

1690
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 3: they have chats, but it's all very informal and casual.

1691
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 3: But then the Greens said, we are meeting regularly as

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01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 3: the leadership of the Greens, the Maori Party and Labor

1693
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 3: and identifying where those areas are for collaboration and we

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01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:10,440
Speaker 3: take that very seriously and we are formalizing that collaboration

1695
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 3: so that we can hold the government to account. Now

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01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 3: I am thrilled about this as a prospect because I

1697
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 3: feel like this is because I feel like we're getting

1698
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 3: some terrible ideas coming out of the Greens and the

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Speaker 3: Maori Party and the Labor Party, and I feel like

1700
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 3: they should get together and we should see just how

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01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 3: terrible their ideas are collectively and constantly be reminded that

1702
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 3: if you vote for the Labor Party, you are going

1703
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 3: to get the Maori Party, by the looks of things

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01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 3: on current polling, into that government as well. So I

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01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 3: think go for it, formalize that for us. Let us

1706
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 3: just see what that looks like, and then we don't

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01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 3: have to really worry too much in twenty twenty six

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Speaker 3: because I ain't nobody going to vote for that. Twenty

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Speaker 3: two away from.

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Speaker 17: Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 17: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: Out of the UK. Rod little is with us?

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01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 15: Hey Rod, how are you doing?

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01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 3: I'm very well? Thank you? Now do you reckon the

1715
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 3: government's going to have to change its mind on the

1716
01:16:58,200 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 3: compo with the Waspy women.

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Speaker 15: I very much hope not. There's no question that the

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Speaker 15: government was well. The Labor Party in kirstanma particularly were

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01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 15: totally disingenuous leading up to the election. They said that

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Speaker 15: they would support these women, the Waspury women. These are

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01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 15: women who claimed they were biscled about the rise in

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Speaker 15: the pension age for themselves and they've all lost out

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Speaker 15: a lot of money. To that, I say, bolder dash,

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Speaker 15: given that I you know, my pension age rose as

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Speaker 15: well at the same time, only by one year and

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Speaker 15: two years. For people ten years younger than me, And

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Speaker 15: for many years I met men were discriminated against by,

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Speaker 15: you know, having a pension age five years older than

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Speaker 15: the women. So I mean, things change, and I think

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01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 15: I think an awful lot of is being made of

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01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 15: this in the press and the broadcast media, but I

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01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 15: don't think it has a great resonance with the people

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01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 15: who think, should we really be giving fifty six billion

1734
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 15: quit to these women who just think they were misled

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Speaker 15: a little bit about when their pension age was going

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01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 15: to start? And I think there is I think there

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01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 15: would be some resistance to that, which is why to

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01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 15: a degree, Karstarmry is getting away with it. But what

1739
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 15: it can't get away with is having said one thing

1740
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 15: before the election and another thing afterwards.

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Speaker 3: So how this is what I failed to understand is

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01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 3: there was a piece of legislation that was passed. How

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01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 3: can these women say that they were mislead? I mean,

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01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 3: was it not publicly available information?

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01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 15: It was publicly available information, but it wasn't terribly well worded,

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01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 15: and you know, we didn't it wasn't in the information

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01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 15: age which we're in now.

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01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 17: You know.

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01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 15: It was a piece of legislature which was passed and

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01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 15: there was something about it in the newspapers, but it

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01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 15: wasn't made clear to the women that they were going

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01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 15: to lose out. But it wasn't made clear to me

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01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 15: that I was going to lose out. Yeah, yeah, you know.

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01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 15: I mean millions of other men and other people will

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01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 15: be able to say the same thing. So I just

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 15: don't think it bites home with the public. What it

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01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 15: does do is convinced the public that maybe can't be

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01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 15: trusted to tell the truth, and we'll say anything to

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01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 15: get elected.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to cost a lot of money if

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01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 3: they go through the compost. I can see why you

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01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't want that to happen. Do you worry about inflation

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01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 3: going up again?

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01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 15: Yeah? Yeah. The interesting thing is that we now have

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01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 15: a monthly inflation figure higher than Argentina's, which is some

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01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 15: incredible feat for the transfer of REGI Ruster have pulled off.

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Speaker 15: Don't forget over the nine months before the general election,

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01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 15: inflation was coming down with great rapidity, came all the

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01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 15: way down from eleven point five percent until we were

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01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 15: down at the two point two percent mark. And ever

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01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 15: since Labor's got in power, it started going up again.

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01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 15: And I can't help feeling when I looked at the

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01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 15: Argentina figures, where there's a bitter kind of ground zero

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01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 15: approach there to state funding of things, that where all

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01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 15: all of us caustic people in the West are going

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01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 15: to have this this same battle that the Argentinians have

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01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 15: had about cutting back on the extraordinary amount of money

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01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 15: we're spending on benefits and so on and on civil servants,

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01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 15: and therefore getting ourselves into a position where there is

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01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 15: continuing inflation and nobody doing any work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, how's it looking for the snow you're going

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01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 3: to get in white Christmas?

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01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 15: No, No, I've just been looking up the prebc's figures.

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01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 15: We're not going to get a white Christmas. There might

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01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 15: be some snow in the Scottish Islands, and I live

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01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 15: up in the Pennines right on the Scottish English border

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01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 15: in mountains. I am only a mile and a half

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01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 15: away from England's only international ski center, which hasn't seen

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01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 15: any snow for nine years. And I remember being brought

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01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 15: up in this neck of the woods, actually on the

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01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 15: coast in Teesside, and we had snow every year, and

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01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 15: there was one year I remember we have snow from

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01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 15: October through to June. Anyone who's goes global warming or

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01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 15: climate change, you know, it really is there the weather

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01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 15: today it's twelve degrees you know, in the middle of

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01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 15: the Pennine, in the middle of winter. Things have really changed.

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Speaker 15: But whatever, with or without the snow, we'll have a

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01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 15: good Christmas. And I hope you and all be your

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Speaker 15: listeners do too.

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Speaker 3: Rod, thank you, Merry Christmas to you. I hope you

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01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 3: have a lovely time with me and so on. That's

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01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 3: Rod Little, our UK correspondent bad News, had a look

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 3: at the weather forecast for where I'm going to be

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01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 3: in the coramand going to be raining on Christmas Day, right,

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01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 3: Christmas is Wednesday, isn't it. Yeah, Christmas is Wednesday. It's

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01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 3: going to be raining and it's going to peak. The

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01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 3: rain's going to peak at about two o'clock, one o'clock,

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01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 3: two o'clock. They're right at barbecue time. So yay. Now,

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01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 3: I said, I was going to talk about darts because

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01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 3: the Darts Championship is going on in London at the moment,

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01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 3: and is what's a long thing like it goes on

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01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 3: for like two and a half weeks or something like that. Anyway,

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01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 3: I was reading about it. I didn't realize you probably

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01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess that you didn't realize this as well.

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01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 3: There is a condition called dar titus which darts players get,

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01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 3: and dar titus is where you cannot throw a dart.

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01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 3: It's really weird. It's happened to a guy called Kevin Painter,

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01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 3: who's a former professional darts champion and other various other

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01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 3: people as well, has thrown darts. He was throwing darts

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01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 3: for almost every day for forty years, no problem throwing

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Speaker 3: the darts. One almost two million dollars in New Zealand

1822
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 3: in prize money, so you know, reasonably good at it.

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01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 3: Earlier this year, went to throw the dart, wouldn't leave

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Speaker 3: his hand. He threw his hand and the dart was

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Speaker 3: still in there. So dar titus is basically where you

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01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 3: go to throw the dart and you cannot let it go.

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Speaker 3: And apparently it's caused by anxiety. And you can do

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Speaker 3: I mean, isn't the mind weird? And then you can

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01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 3: do You can do various things to try and relieve

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01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 3: your anxiety. The most common modern thing is to go

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01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,560
Speaker 3: to cognitive behavioral therapy and they do all kinds of

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01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 3: weird things that make it tap your head, make you

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01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 3: think through what's causing your anxiety, like various other things

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01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 3: you could do, hypnotherapy, blah blah blah. One guy just

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01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 3: basically stopped throwing with his right hand started throwing there's

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01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 3: left hand. But isn't that weird? I mean, that's a sport.

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01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 3: Isn't it a sports? Not a sport? But if you

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01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 3: get anxiety, that's an actual sport. Quarter two The.

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Speaker 2: Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By

1840
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 2: News Talks.

1841
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: At b hither.

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Speaker 3: I listened to a podcast with Eliza McCartney recently and

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01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 3: she went through a patch where she couldn't jump. Liz,

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Speaker 3: that's fascinating. Thank you, Glenn sell Us, your Honda, Ronda

1845
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:33,919
Speaker 3: sell Us, your Ford Lord, your Nis and Maxima, doctor Ropata.

1846
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 11: Can you stop doing this because your.

1847
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 3: Red Mahindra, Patrick Gamblinda. Do you know what that is?

1848
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 11: Yes, it's burned on my brain and you're giving me

1849
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 11: your triggering me.

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01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 3: It's the lyrics. It's the lyrics to the Tina Ad.

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Speaker 11: We know what the lyrics are.

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01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 3: Well, no, but I've got them. I've got all of

1853
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 3: the lyrics.

1854
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 11: Why why are you doing this to me?

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01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 3: Five there are six verses to this, and in fact

1856
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 3: I didn't realize this, but the Tina ad that you

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01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 3: hear on the ray video is actually missing two verses

1858
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:04,599
Speaker 3: at the front, which so it's actually not we play

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01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 3: a minute here on new SOI.

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01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 11: Well, can we not miss out the four verses at

1861
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 11: the beginning as well?

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01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 3: Todd from Turner's sent Todd is the CEO. Todd from

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01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 3: Turner's personally sent through the lyrics for me.

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Speaker 16: Maybe Todd could have a go at singing it and

1865
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 16: see if it's any better.

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Speaker 3: Oh you, honestly, you and your attitude towards this ad.

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01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 3: It's brilliant and this is why Tinas, this is why

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01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 3: Turners is doing so well, because it's a good ad. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: So that's my maternity leave job, is that I've got

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Speaker 3: to learn all six verses and then when I come back,

1871
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 3: I'm just going to randomly bust them out one day

1872
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 3: and make sure that Glenn is listening at that point

1873
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 3: and talk to him further. James Cameron, by the way,

1874
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,799
Speaker 3: is going to join that Wellington Power Group vision for Wellington.

1875
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 3: Remember us talking about them? I think maybe maybe last week.

1876
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 3: These are the guys, whole bunch of luminaries in Wellington,

1877
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 3: hospitality owners, Miles Gaisley from Gaiely car Yards, former Mayor's

1878
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 3: just a whole bunch of news editors, newspaper columnists, all

1879
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 3: kinds of stuff. People who have vision and want to

1880
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 3: and Bob Jones obviously and money who want to help

1881
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 3: Wellington out of the hole that it's in have formed

1882
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 3: this group called Vision for Wellington. They've been attacked by Tory,

1883
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 3: the mayor and another council member of specifically Ben McNulty

1884
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 3: for being right wingers and conspiracy theorists and stuff. It's

1885
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 3: going to be hard for them to attack it now

1886
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 3: because now they've got old mate James Cameron involved. James

1887
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 3: Cameron is going to be Look, they're doing a series

1888
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 3: of events where they sort of have these town hall

1889
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 3: meetings by the looks of things that will be streamed

1890
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 3: and stuff online so everybody can get ahold of it

1891
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 3: and get involved in stuff and will they will together

1892
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 3: they'll have conversations about what to do to make Wellington better.

1893
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 3: And James Cameron's going to be doing the first one,

1894
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 3: which is going to be in February. This is going

1895
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 3: to be I think something of a nock to Tory,

1896
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 3: because Tory's big play is now you're just this is

1897
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 3: ideological and you come from the others. Have you seen

1898
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 3: what James Cameron's up to? James Cameron so far from

1899
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 3: being a right winger. It's not funny. I mean the

1900
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 3: guy does he even eat meat? Do you know what

1901
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 3: I mean? Like, he's gone that far. He's gone that

1902
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 3: far down what we would call the woke track. So anyway,

1903
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 3: Tory will be very upset about it. Look, I hope

1904
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 3: she opens the newspaper today and sees that, because that'll

1905
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 3: make her feel a bit sad before Christmas, won't it.

1906
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: Nine Away from nine.

1907
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 2: Heather dupuy Ellen on them My Costing, Breakfast with the

1908
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 2: Range Rover, The Law News.

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01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 3: Togs Dead b Heather. Our weather forecasts very rarely get

1910
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 3: the forecast right a week out. I've looked at it

1911
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 3: for a long time because I work outdoors and I

1912
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 3: have to plan for the week, and I will put

1913
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,959
Speaker 3: no money on it raining on Christmas Day at this stage.

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01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 3: If they're still saying it two days before then I'll listen.

1915
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 3: Thank you for that. You've cheered me up immensely. Six

1916
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 3: Away from nine.

1917
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Speaker 2: Trending now MS Warehouse your home for Christmas shopping.

1918
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Speaker 3: Okay, so it might have been a crushing, humiliating and

1919
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 3: debilitating defeat for the Democrats, but at least their nominee

1920
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 3: has the good grace to actually be able to laugh

1921
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 3: about it. This is Krmla Harris. Of course, she gave

1922
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 3: a speech at a community college where she was able

1923
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 3: to have a go at herself for all of her

1924
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 3: various word salads and random quotes which meant absolutely nothing

1925
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 3: during the campaign.

1926
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 18: The context in which you exist, Yeah, I did that,

1927
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 18: uh huh.

1928
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 3: Before. She then later in the speech went on to

1929
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 3: very sincerely spout more word salad. In the face of

1930
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 3: an obstacle, do we throw up our hands or do

1931
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 3: we roll up our swaves?

1932
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Speaker 1: And as we approach.

1933
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I've always thought. She's a good bird,

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01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 3: terrible candidate, absolutely rubbish, and I suspect not nearly as

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Speaker 3: smart as she would like you to believe, because that

1936
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Speaker 3: generally is why people start relying on word salads. But

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Speaker 3: actually a good bird. Hither I run a darts shop,

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Speaker 3: and darts is very highly psychological, but darts players make

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Speaker 3: it far harder on themselves by overthinking things. Don't get

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Speaker 3: me wrong, it's technical all sorts of types of darts

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Speaker 3: and accessories that are just every nuance. But when we're

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Speaker 3: helping a customer their perfect darts to suit their throw,

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Speaker 3: they're often obsessed with things that make little to know

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Speaker 3: the difference because they're stuck in their consciousness. This is

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Speaker 3: Dave from Hunt's Darts Forest Hill. Do you know what

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Speaker 3: isn't that? Isn't that? Basically just anxiety in general, Like

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Speaker 3: the minute that you the minute you start freshing over things,

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Speaker 3: you're making it too hard on yourself. Okay, here we go, Glenn,

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Speaker 3: because I put that it's in your head now though,

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Speaker 3: isn't it? It's stuck in you? What give us your

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Speaker 3: red Mahindra Jem Belinda Again. Here's how you get rid

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Speaker 3: of an earworm. Okay. An earworm, by the way, is

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Speaker 3: when a song gets stuck in your head and you

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Speaker 3: just can't get rid of it, and in the end

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Speaker 3: it actually can drive you crazy. Do you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean? Like can you be falling asleep going oh no,

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Speaker 3: this is not cool. This is how you get rid

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Speaker 3: of it. The first thing you do is you sing

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Speaker 3: yourself a different song. But you can't sing yourself a

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Speaker 3: different song that's also going to be an earworm, So

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Speaker 3: sing yourself, God Save the King, because God Save the King,

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Speaker 3: you know it. But it's also so boring it never

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Speaker 3: becomes an earworm. This is I'm not making this up.

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Speaker 3: I read about this in advance for this is how

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Speaker 3: much I care about Glenn.

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Speaker 11: Is that because the King is so boring?

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Speaker 3: Undoubtedly? Yeah. The other way is chew gum. But you

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Speaker 3: have because you're using the same muscles as you would

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Speaker 3: for talking or singing, so it will override the song

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Speaker 3: in your head. But you need to chew it vigorously

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Speaker 3: like your mum would be disappointed. And you've seeing you

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Speaker 3: chewing it like that.

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Speaker 16: I think you should be chewing gum and bed. You

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Speaker 16: wake up with it and you're.

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Speaker 3: Trying to help people in I'm trying to help you here.

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Speaker 3: So there you go. You've got a couple of options.

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Speaker 3: I don't know which is worse, walking around chewing gum

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Speaker 3: like a cow chewing a cud, or singing God Save

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Speaker 3: the King out loud to yourself or frankly at all

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Speaker 3: because it is a very boring song. Anyway, listen, we'll

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Speaker 3: be with you tomorrow. Enjoy the rest of your day.

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Speaker 3: Have a lovely one news storms thereb.

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