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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate altogether better across residential, commercial

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Speaker 1: and rural news talks, head bending.

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Speaker 2: And Welcome today, the new med School, The Sounds Air,

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Speaker 2: reality of making a buck on regional roots in this country.

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Speaker 2: Netball they've gone and changed their mind on overseas playing rules.

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Speaker 2: Eric Topole, here's the guru when it comes to longevity research.

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Speaker 2: So he's with us after. It's fascinating stuff. Catherine Field

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Speaker 2: lines up from France and Rod Little does the verse

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Speaker 2: from the UK for US, pasking right, oh, seven past six,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the day. Let's deal with the good news,

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Speaker 2: shall we Inflation not as bad as they thought. They

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Speaker 2: thought two point nine, it was two point seven. We're

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Speaker 2: an interesting company. I mean the US, for example, at

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Speaker 2: the moment, is two point seven having just gone up

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Speaker 2: like us? Is that good? Well, they feel a bit

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Speaker 2: like us. I think a lot of people don't like

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Speaker 2: the economy. A lot of people think things are getting

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Speaker 2: more expensive. So here's your real story. Tradeables, stuff we

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Speaker 2: can do something about, is at one point two percent,

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Speaker 2: very low decent sort of figure. Non tradeables, though, stuff

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Speaker 2: we can't do you think about three point seven? Three

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Speaker 2: point seven not good and well outside the Reserve bank

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Speaker 2: zero to three band? What's leading those non tradable numbers,

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Speaker 2: I hear you ask, Well, the answer is, of course,

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Speaker 2: councils and rates. They are the robber barons of the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand economy. Their cost plus accounting is wreaking havoc

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Speaker 2: all over the countryside and there isn't a thing you

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Speaker 2: can do about it. Electricity prices too, by the way,

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Speaker 2: are also in there. They fall into the same category

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Speaker 2: in my view as councils. But because the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 2: only looks at some things and not others, they're not

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Speaker 2: doing what they should be doing, which is helping the

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Speaker 2: economy grow. Though they will tell you have a look

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Speaker 2: at the latest official GDP figure that was zero point

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Speaker 2: eight percent, So what are you complaining about? Are the

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Speaker 2: latest quarter on live reading is tracking at zero point

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Speaker 2: four percent, so that's halved, and that annualized doubt is

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Speaker 2: still leaving us going backwards. You might, I mean might,

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Speaker 2: with those numbers cobble together the ongoing argument that slowly

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Speaker 2: but surely things are coming right. But the real question

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Speaker 2: is what's right? Inframetrics adjusted their growth forecast for all

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Speaker 2: of next year two two percent. That's two percent. It's pathetic.

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Speaker 2: That's the rebound. As long as all this persists, the

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Speaker 2: funk will continue. It'll be easy to feel downtrodden and

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Speaker 2: it will upbeat. This is a slog and the Reserve

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Speaker 2: Bank view of the world fails to recognize that. And

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Speaker 2: the vultures who keep charging more because they can don't care.

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Speaker 1: Why News of the World in ninety six.

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Speaker 2: Now Among the million very problems currently facing the British

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister is water teams. Water in particular is a shamble,

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Speaker 2: so they're creating a new water regulator.

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Speaker 3: We have those eighty one criminal investigations under the way.

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Speaker 4: They will work their way.

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Speaker 3: Through the court system as they should do, and judges,

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Speaker 3: not ministers, will decide any sanction that should follow. There

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Speaker 3: needs to be accountability back in a system where there

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Speaker 3: was no accountability.

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Speaker 2: Not everyone's convinced.

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Speaker 5: Until we look at privatization and the end of it,

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Speaker 5: we will never see true transition. We need to look

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Speaker 5: to Europe and America, learn from them and then put

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Speaker 5: this industry back into special administration if you like, Starting

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Speaker 5: with Thames Water and removing the profit motive, replacing it

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Speaker 5: with public benefit and environmental performance.

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Speaker 2: K has also been thinking about the Middle East.

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Speaker 6: We need a cease fire, and we need it straight away,

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Speaker 6: because that will create the space for the remaining hostages

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Speaker 6: to be released. We'll create the space for AID to

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Speaker 6: get in at speed and at volume.

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Speaker 2: State sided off duty border patrol offers a good shot.

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Speaker 2: Homeland Secretary blame sanctuary cities.

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Speaker 7: I'm calling on every single mayor in sanctuary city and

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Speaker 7: sanctuary governor to change their policies and to change their tactics.

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Speaker 7: Right now, their job is to take an ulster, protect

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Speaker 7: the public other matters.

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Speaker 2: We had a payment company called ear Wallacks. They've turned

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Speaker 2: out to be a new sponsor for Arsenal. Now they're

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Speaker 2: into football because they love sport. Wider they love sport

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Speaker 2: because they've gotten the sport through if one.

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Speaker 8: If then the McLaren deal was anything to go by.

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Speaker 8: Hopefully we see this sort of immediacy in success for

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Speaker 8: Arsenal as well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the reference being at the moment they started sponsoring

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Speaker 2: Mclair and McLaren started winning, and then the girl guides

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Speaker 2: have come up with some new badges, quite a lot

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Speaker 2: of them.

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Speaker 9: My ultimate favorite is be rescuer where you can become

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Speaker 9: a hero looking after bees. If you're written boy Brownie

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Speaker 9: and you want to create your own toys, you can

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Speaker 9: create toys that you can play with your girlfriends.

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Speaker 2: Yes, seventy two badges and all bad for everyone, which

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Speaker 2: might just be the problem. Finally, another I ate banana story.

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Speaker 2: This is this jammer, this atty canto, but that the

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Speaker 2: duck take banana of art work. Another banana got eaten.

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Speaker 2: That's news of the world of ninety Now. Commas Secretary

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Speaker 2: Lutnik has said that August one's the hard deadline for

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Speaker 2: tariff So we New Zealand are still standing by for

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Speaker 2: the small country letter from Trump and we think now

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Speaker 2: the tariffs are going to be higher than ten percent,

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Speaker 2: so that's going to be a new story. Remember where

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Speaker 2: you heard it first. And Lutnik now says August one

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Speaker 2: is the deadline for reciprocal tariffs, and Besson this morning

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Speaker 2: says that is going to put pressure on every He

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Speaker 2: is probably right. Twelve pass six.

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Speaker 2: There's a bit of a scrap been brewing for a

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Speaker 2: six from bed and Funds Management Tuesday on in Greg,

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Speaker 2: welcome to it. How are you morning? Take you two

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Speaker 2: point seven? You're happy with that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you're pretty happy that.

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Speaker 11: Obviously something expected. It's in line the ANSDS forecast in

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Speaker 11: the main and PS. So yeah, obviously you talk about

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Speaker 11: the challenges our economy is facing.

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Speaker 10: It you're quite right.

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Speaker 11: So it shouldn't stop them from cutting rates next month,

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Speaker 11: particularly as you say as well, a lot of stuff

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Speaker 11: driving inflation won't actually be influenced by O see our changes.

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Speaker 10: So let's look at a few of the highlights.

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Speaker 11: Rates contribute thirty percent of the annual inflation rates they

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Speaker 11: were twelve point two percent, so you know about that.

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Speaker 10: But other stuff is softening.

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Speaker 11: Petrol prices down eight percent, rent you know that's been

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Speaker 11: obviously a bone of contention. That three point two percent

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Speaker 11: that's eleven percent of the CPI. So you know, Wellington

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Speaker 11: soft we know that, but so as Aucklandon. You know,

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Speaker 11: net migration is obviously a fact and non tradables still

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Speaker 11: quite high, but that's the lowest since twenty twenty one

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Speaker 11: at three point seven percent. And you look at the

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Speaker 11: quarterly figures as well, Mike, so yeah, they were lower

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Speaker 11: point nine percent in June. Food nineteen percent of the CPI.

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Speaker 11: That was the biggest contributor. Ten percent increase in vegues.

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Speaker 11: We've talked about that food prices, but yeah, people, it

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Speaker 11: would be nice for people. We're charged least of course

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Speaker 11: for our broccoli, but you know, people so have to eat,

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Speaker 11: whether we cut the OCR or not. Energy prices that

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Speaker 11: was twenty five percent of the rise, but you know,

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Speaker 11: people still have to keep the lights on either way.

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Speaker 11: And MEANWI obviously we're in the worst downturn since the GFC,

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Speaker 11: and that's brings the deflationary pressures.

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Speaker 11: That e's point one percent annual increase herees are smaller

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Speaker 11: thought as well was cultural services. That's twenty six percent

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Speaker 11: ten percent lift in streaming subscription prices, So I think

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Speaker 10: Cut the ACO or not as well.

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Speaker 11: So I think we're getting a number rate cut next month,

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Speaker 11: and there's going to be extra spice because the Aussies

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Speaker 11: go the week before and giving their weak job numbers

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Speaker 11: last week.

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Speaker 10: That'll probably provide a bit of air of pressure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the US, what I looked at Verizon, they were good.

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Speaker 2: Dom that was good. Good, Everyone's good.

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Speaker 10: Everyone's pretty good. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, text leading away in TIMZSMP hitting a record high.

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Speaker 11: But I've had some good results so Verizon obviously big Telco.

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Speaker 11: Five percent increase in the revenue thirty four point five billion,

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Speaker 11: of five point one billion. They're didn't better from their

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Speaker 11: high price plans. They lifted broadband subscribed as twelve percent

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Speaker 10: That was going pretty well.

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Speaker 11: They lifted their annual profit forecasts also getting good of

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Speaker 11: you also had a good result from Domino's Pizza as well.

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Speaker 10: Ever stuff crust pizza.

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Speaker 11: And how about this Mike Parmesan pizza went pretty well

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Speaker 11: and it's been a big hit, and they're really targeting

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Speaker 11: low income customers amidst cost of living pressures. That had

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Speaker 11: this nine dollar nine to nine beast deal. Ever, that's

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Speaker 11: set pretty well. They missed expectations slightly on earnings, but

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Speaker 11: they took a twenty seven million dollar charge from a

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Speaker 11: China licensee. Revenues one point one five billion, they were

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Speaker 11: in line with estimates. They also reacon the roll out

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Speaker 11: on doordare platform twice the size of Uber for pizza

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Speaker 2: Runner and how right, Ryan eded well as well.

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Speaker 10: Year I've done well as well in Europe.

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Speaker 11: So these years are up five percent, up nearly thirty

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Speaker 11: over the past twelve months.

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Speaker 10: So they had a result overnight as well.

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Speaker 11: So first quarter profits they more than doubledf he is

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Speaker 11: arising profit eight hundred and twenty million euros in the quarter.

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Speaker 11: That was up in three to sixty million a year ago. Tommy,

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Speaker 11: it needs to help, but also high prices passion to numbers.

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Speaker 11: They rose, revenues swored twenty percent. That was a pretty

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Speaker 11: good story. And I suppose speaking to the sort of

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Speaker 11: the low cost model, they get a lot of their

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Speaker 11: revenues from ancillary stuff. We're charging for seat selection, food, drink.

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Speaker 10: And additional baggage just by the bye.

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Speaker 11: They've also been getting making a bit of news for

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Speaker 11: charge seventy five years of time and start for getting

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Speaker 10: So they stand by that policy. The game pretty well.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna spoil the fun, Mike. The Waikata Med School

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Speaker 2: as a graduate degree, so you can only get it

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Speaker 2: I think some of you can actually explain that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: it covered, no problems, Mike. The other question no journalist

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Speaker 2: Sounds here and as with us. Andrew, very good morning

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Speaker 2: to you, very well. Indeed thank you, just for clarification's sake,

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Speaker 2: and not to insult you remotely. You're a good business model, right.

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Speaker 2: This is not about you. This is about the economy, punters, numbers,

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Speaker 15: That I'm aware of. It's not about punters and numbers.

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Speaker 15: There's plenty of people flying that that's not the issue,

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Speaker 2: Is doing something about it. Your civil aviation bill is

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Speaker 15: I find it absolutely astounding that the civil aviation can

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Speaker 2: It's no wonder, it's difficult. Are you one of the

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Speaker 15: And well, we haven't say anything. We've been talking to

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure we should be running a social

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Speaker 15: that the regional connectivity nothing Andy, I'm with you. Maybe

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Speaker 15: that's just the answer and we've just got to move

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Speaker 2: yelling in my ear. Now, whether you're looking to buy

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Speaker 2: a homer, invest are you hard earned money? You want

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Speaker 2: an established bank with solar foundations, of course, committed to

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Speaker 2: doing the best of people who bank with them. This

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Speaker 2: is SBS Bank. They've been around for one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty six years, with roots firmly planted in the Kiwi soil.

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Speaker 2: So North Islanders just starting to learn about SBS. The Southerners.

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Speaker 2: No one love SBS. Of course, they're owned by their

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Speaker 2: members and they proudly keep the properts here in the country,

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Speaker 2: which we love. So when you bank with them, you're

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Speaker 2: helping grow New Zealand. Not to mention their Canstars Bank

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Speaker 2: of the Year for First Time Buyers for Ready twenty two,

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Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty four helping New Zealand's newest endangered species.

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Speaker 2: Kiwi's trying to buy their first time so they haven't

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Speaker 2: forgotten the investors either. By the way, highly competitive rates

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Speaker 2: for investments, so if you're in the market for a

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Speaker 2: home loan, or you've got money you want to invest

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Speaker 2: for a great return, or maybe you just want to

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Speaker 2: move to the bank with a heart. Then you search

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Speaker 2: for SBS bank to find out.

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Speaker 1: More international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: You only worked out all right, didn't it at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, and that sort of that kind

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Speaker 2: of we make it up as we go along and

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Speaker 2: had got no clue what happens next kind of way.

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Speaker 2: Catherine Field, don't shake your head at me, Catherine morning, Hey,

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Speaker 2: good morning. Make I've got them back, thank you. I've

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Speaker 2: got the headline Deadly storms hit France, do they Ah?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they're pretty bad.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's bad. You know, if you're walking around Paris

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Speaker 16: today and you get a big downpour and that floods

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Speaker 16: the metro and people have to take chairs and from restaurants,

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Speaker 16: that's pretty bad. But it's not as bad as it

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Speaker 16: has been in the past.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good answer, Is that clear enough? No, that's very good. Indeed.

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Speaker 2: Now so because I'm sory. I'm in France and I

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Speaker 2: paid a fortune to go there, and I'm sitting in

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Speaker 2: my cafe because in my experience in Paris. You can't

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Speaker 2: get a table outside anyway. So you finally get your

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Speaker 2: table outside and you paid your nineteen euros for your

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Speaker 2: small glass of chip shabblis and the next thing you know,

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Speaker 2: it's raining on you.

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Speaker 15: What do you do?

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Speaker 16: Go inside and rubs shoulders of the whole ploy.

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Speaker 2: Mate, I guess. So now this Elon Musk thing and X,

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Speaker 2: where do we go with us? This started back in January?

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Speaker 2: Have they got something? Does this actually go somewhere? Is

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Speaker 2: this all about headlines?

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Speaker 16: They are really gunning for Elon Musk and they are

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Speaker 16: gunning for Twitter. What they or as we now call

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Speaker 16: it X, what the investigators have found or suspect to

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Speaker 16: have found, is this what's so called algorithm bias. That

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Speaker 16: means that Twitter X is alterating its operations, that's allowing

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Speaker 16: them to highlight themes favorable to the company, to Elon Musk,

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Speaker 16: for example, giving greater visibility to certain political candidates. And

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Speaker 16: also this fraudulent extraction of data, which is taking data

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Speaker 16: from users and allowing them to have advertising tailored to

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Speaker 16: their personal options such as sexual orientation, political opinions, religious

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Speaker 16: the sort of information that these companies are not meant

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Speaker 16: to have, but they extract it allegedly by looking at

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Speaker 16: what bits of Twitter you're looking at. So this was

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Speaker 16: actually put forward earlier this year in MP put forward

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Speaker 16: an official complaint. He said that there is just so

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Speaker 16: much less diversity of views on that social media platform

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Speaker 16: and says that democracy is now too fragile to let

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Speaker 16: one man, one digital platforma to tell people who to

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Speaker 16: vote for. We've also had a second cybersecurity network say

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Speaker 16: that there is just so much more hateful, racist, homophobic content.

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Speaker 16: For his part, Elon Musk just a couple of hours

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Speaker 16: ago said that his company was not going to cooperate

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Speaker 16: with French investigators. He said it was politically motivated completely

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Speaker 16: fold and it was a threat to free speech.

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Speaker 2: How does this if it does? Given this as French

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Speaker 2: dovetail with the EU. Look at the AfD and Musk's

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Speaker 2: connection with them.

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Speaker 16: It absolutely dovetails perfectly with them. Aside from the fact

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Speaker 16: that the EU takes a very long time to get

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Speaker 16: going on these sorts of things, like they have been

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Speaker 16: looking at Elon Musk's operations since about late twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 16: Again that was breaches of data. That was also saying, look,

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Speaker 16: you know, you cannot just operate these blue chain it's

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Speaker 16: deceiving now, it's not what it was. You haven't been

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Speaker 16: doing the proper checks. So it does sort of push

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Speaker 16: that bit further. Let's not forget. Also back in February,

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Speaker 16: the EU said they were going to investigate that live

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Speaker 16: streaming interview that Elon mus did with the leader of

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Speaker 16: the far right Germany just ahead of the federal elections.

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Speaker 16: There there are question marks and there's still our question

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Speaker 16: marks of whether that's interfering with the legal laws in

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Speaker 16: each country around time that each political candidate has allowed

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Speaker 16: on the thing. So they're still investigating that. And of course,

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Speaker 16: just a couple of weeks ago, Poland the Digital Affairs

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Speaker 16: Minister asked the EU to do a check on the

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Speaker 16: AI chatbot that comes up on x apparently that had

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Speaker 16: been spewing out a Nazi propaganda and also views favorable

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Speaker 16: to the Nazi Party.

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Speaker 2: I've got to go. But this by what a hero

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Speaker 2: I mean? Have they has France finally got a prime

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Speaker 2: minister who will tackle the fact that you don't pay

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Speaker 2: your way and you haven't for about a million years.

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Speaker 16: It will be hard watch this space because when they

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Speaker 16: come back from holiday and just under two months time, Mike,

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Speaker 16: they're going to be thrashing out this budget. He needs

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Speaker 16: to save eighty five billion New Zealand dollars next year.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a tough fight.

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Speaker 2: Amazing. Nice to catch up, Catherine. Will see next week

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Speaker 2: Catherine Field and France for us at ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Might Hosking Breakfast with al Vida Retirement Communities News

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Speaker 1: Dogs head be see.

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Speaker 2: Here's my point with the Commos Commission and the Commos

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Speaker 2: Commission have a look at the banks and the fed

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Speaker 2: farmers go oh, collusion, collusion, collusion, and the Commos Commission

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Speaker 2: have a look and goes, no, there's not there's nothing

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Speaker 2: to see here. Then why is it suddenly different when

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Speaker 2: you talk to somebody like Nikola Willis, who goes the

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Speaker 2: banks are ripping us off? How come there's no collusion

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Speaker 2: to be found when it comes to farmers and United

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Speaker 2: Nations deals, but there is in the general market. A Nikola,

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Speaker 2: how's that butter meeting gone for you? Interesting to note

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Speaker 2: from the Prime Minister yesterday that Fonterra called it, which

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Speaker 2: surprised me. What's Mile's going to do about it? You're going, well,

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Speaker 2: here's how it works. How much is a pack it

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Speaker 2: a butter, Prime Minister. And see back in the days

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Speaker 2: when they asked those questions. That was back in the

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Speaker 2: day's New Zealand, and the New Zealand government ran everything,

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Speaker 2: and there was only one pack of butter, and there's

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Speaker 2: only one bottle of milk, and there was only one

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Speaker 2: bag of cheese, whereas now there's millions of them. And

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Speaker 2: so the reporter who claimed it was eleven dollars was correct,

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Speaker 2: because you can of course find a bit of butter

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Speaker 2: for eleven dollars. Equally, the Prime minister was correct, you

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Speaker 2: can find a bit of butter for eight dollars fifty

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Speaker 2: because there were prices for everything all over the place. Hence,

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Speaker 2: we don't ask stupid questions anymore. Five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The in and the outs. It's the fizz with business fiber.

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Speaker 1: Take your business productivity to the next link.

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Speaker 2: Now, from our studies that tell you nothing, file we

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Speaker 2: find a four day week has got good results. So

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Speaker 2: this has been done by a US and Irish research team.

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Speaker 2: They published it in Nature Human Behavior. They've looked at

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Speaker 2: almost three thousand employees from one hundred and forty one

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Speaker 2: organizations across six countries, including US as in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and Australia. Six month trial reduced the working week from

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Speaker 2: five to four days, kept the paid the same first trial.

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Speaker 2: According to the experts, everything has been controlled and we

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Speaker 2: actually get longitudinal data out of all of this. They

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Speaker 2: compared the results of the six countries to twelve other

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Speaker 2: six companies to twelve other companies that kept the work

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Speaker 2: at five days. So they evaluated well being before and

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Speaker 2: after burnout, job satisfaction overall, psychological well being and physical health.

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Speaker 2: Those who participated saw did improvements and burnout or lack

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Speaker 2: of they weren't burnt out. In other words, physical health

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Speaker 2: saw the biggest benefit because people got more sleep and

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Speaker 2: they had time for physical exercise at their leisure on

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Speaker 2: their day off. Job satisfaction went up. They because they

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Speaker 2: they have three day weekends. I mean, why wouldn't your

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Speaker 2: job satisfaction go if you go Friday, Saturday and Sunday off. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: those participating this white rigged. Those participating in the four

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Speaker 2: day week trial got coaching in the weeks leading up

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Speaker 2: to the trial as to how to be more efficient

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Speaker 2: to work in hand call with changers. Meantime, I note

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Speaker 2: by the way that Starbucks. I don't know if this

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Speaker 2: is international or just America, but Starbucks have been ordered

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Speaker 2: back to the office four days a week. How on

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Speaker 2: earth are you and barista at Starbucks if you don't

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Speaker 2: turn up anyway, So you've got to turn up at

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Speaker 2: the office now or take a payout. They're laying you off.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing how that sort of continued to be a thing,

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Speaker 2: hasn't it. After seven o'clock, which is very shortly, we'll

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Speaker 2: have the Vice Chancellor of the University of Waikatto on

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Speaker 2: the med school. We'll talk to the Health Minister Simming

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Speaker 2: and Brown about that later. Then Longevity, the global guru

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Speaker 2: on longevity, living well Long. He's with us after eight.

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Speaker 1: O'clock News, opinion and everything in between, the mic costing,

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Speaker 1: breakfast with the Landro Discovery, never Stop Discovering News, togsdead be.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven, So the long away to Waycat and

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Speaker 2: medical schoolers go. The Government's in for a bit over

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Speaker 2: eighty million. One hundred and fifty million comes from the

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Speaker 2: university and donors. The doors open in twenty eight with

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Speaker 2: an initial role of one hundred and twenty students and

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Speaker 2: focus on GP training. Neil Quigley as the University of

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Speaker 2: Wycat has vice chancellor and is with us. Very good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike's been a journey.

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Speaker 12: It has been a journey.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you're right.

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Speaker 2: How much of this is about regional prestige for your organization?

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Speaker 12: Oh, we are just interested in delivering for New Zealand

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Speaker 12: and we've got involved in this project primarily because of

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Speaker 12: the observation that we've fallen behind what's happening in other countries,

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Speaker 12: particularly Australia, in terms of medical education. So this is

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Speaker 12: our opportunity to help New Zealand get into the twenty

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Speaker 12: first century one hundred.

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Speaker 2: And twenty with a view to more or one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty, is.

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Speaker 12: It No, one hundred and twenty is a starting point,

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Speaker 12: but obviously we need to build the program and make

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Speaker 12: sure we've got all the clinical placements in place before

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Speaker 12: we look to go beyond one hundred and twenty. But

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Speaker 12: I would hope after a few years we would be

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Speaker 12: able to build up.

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Speaker 2: How do you tell people to be a GP because

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Speaker 2: you can't, really can.

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Speaker 8: You, No, you can't.

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Speaker 12: People have tried bonding schemes and other places and things

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Speaker 12: like that, but they're really difficult to make work practically.

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Speaker 12: And legally, what you have to do is select people

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Speaker 12: for the commitment that they show to being in general

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Speaker 12: practice and in primary care. And it's possible to design

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Speaker 12: your selection mechanisms so that you identify those characteristics and

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Speaker 12: people rather than just well because they will come from

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Speaker 12: places where there are shortages of doctors and where they're

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Speaker 12: committed to going back to those places to practice, and

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Speaker 12: we'll select them based on their demonstrated involvement with the

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Speaker 12: community rather than just their academic grades.

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Speaker 2: That's guess work. Look, I'm all for this, congratulations, I

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Speaker 2: think it's going to be ahead all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But what I know from medical school is you can't

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Speaker 2: force people to do what they don't do. You can't

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Speaker 2: force them to go to the country, and you can't

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Speaker 2: force them to be a GP. They will do what

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Speaker 2: they do in anything. Any other argument is fencible, isn't it.

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Speaker 12: Well, Mike, what you have to do is look at

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Speaker 12: the record of our partners that we're going to be

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Speaker 12: working with in Australia, so they get fifty or sixty

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Speaker 12: percent of their graduates going into general practice, whereas at

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Speaker 12: the moment here in New Zealand it's only fifteen or

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Speaker 12: twenty percent from Auckland or Otago. So the evidence from

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Speaker 12: Australia says that implementing the selection mechanisms that our partner

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Speaker 12: institutions over there use, you do get a markedly different

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Speaker 12: workforce outcome.

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Speaker 2: Okay, were you surprised at yesterday's reaction in the Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister's press conference and the conspiracy theory about your so

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Speaker 2: called conf like dementia. I mean, for a good news story,

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Speaker 2: there was a lot of weird behavior yesterday.

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Speaker 10: I thought.

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Speaker 12: I was a little surprised that people weren't interested in

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Speaker 12: engaging with the real issues about, you know, the need

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Speaker 12: to improve medical education in New Zealand and the way

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Speaker 12: in which we can shorten pathway with a four year

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Speaker 12: graduate entry program to get more doctors through more quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, yes, yes, yeah, I was very surprised. It

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Speaker 2: was me too well and Neil appreciate it. Neil quickly,

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Speaker 2: who's the University of Waikato vice chancellor. It's everything that's

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Speaker 2: wrong with this country. On a good news day, there's

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Speaker 2: not about politics on a good news day, and irrefusably

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Speaker 2: good news day where something was actually going to happen.

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Speaker 2: All we could do was find reasons to bitch and

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Speaker 2: mine eleven past seven. So the washer up on inflation

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Speaker 2: seems to be this two point seven wasn't the two

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Speaker 2: point nine they thought it might be. The non tradable

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Speaker 2: stuff like rates is still a real issue. Of course

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Speaker 2: in the RB will this and basically I'm assuming locked

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Speaker 2: in another interest rate out next month. Mike Jones is

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Speaker 2: the ben Z's tip economists and as well as Mike Morning.

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Speaker 2: What a the band is still going to be breached,

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Speaker 2: isn't it eventually? Sometimes this year they're going to go

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Speaker 2: above three, aren't they.

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Speaker 17: I think it's a real chance. But I think the takeaway,

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Speaker 17: as you said from the numbers yesterday, was that bet

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Speaker 17: reduces now not only breaching three percent, but also getting

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Speaker 17: stuck above three percent, which which might have been an

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Speaker 17: issue for inflation expectations. That's self perpetuating aspect of inflation.

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Speaker 17: So yeah, I think it's a green light or the

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Speaker 17: bank they can probably feel more comfortable in getting cracking

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Speaker 17: on rate cuts again next month.

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Speaker 2: And so what have they learned then? Given they this

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Speaker 2: month they didn't and next month they will, and then

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Speaker 2: maybe they'll go again later on this year. What's changed

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Speaker 2: material in the last week or so.

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Speaker 17: Well, I mean, one is your headline inflation's a little

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Speaker 17: bit lower. I think is we've seen the data come

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Speaker 17: in as well. It's it's still pretty soggy in uninspiring

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Speaker 17: sort of stuff as well. So I think that means

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Speaker 17: that or median term inflation that particularly focused on, they

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Speaker 17: can be a little bit more confident that once we

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Speaker 17: get through this burst of temporary higher inflation, that will

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Speaker 17: settle down to back to two percent or a bit

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Speaker 17: below because the economy has got lots of spare capacity

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Speaker 17: rights if the activity is racing away, and so lower

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Speaker 17: interstrates are probably required to try and boost activity and

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Speaker 17: insure inflation doesn't fall too far below two percent next year.

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Speaker 2: But do you I mean you're the expert. I'm not,

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Speaker 2: But I'm looking at the low number of what was

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Speaker 2: at one point two versus three point seven? How low

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Speaker 2: does that need to Because the councils are not going

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Speaker 2: to stop charging, and the CIA is not going to

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Speaker 2: stop charging, the insurance is not going to stop going up.

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Speaker 2: So when does all that finish and then flow through

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Speaker 2: to a lower inflation number.

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Speaker 17: Well, we think we've got another quarter to come where

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Speaker 17: you're going to get higher headliner inflation. So the third

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Speaker 17: quarter we think we might get a two point nine,

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Speaker 17: but our hope is that that is the peak and

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Speaker 17: thereafter we start to see things tail away. I mean,

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Speaker 17: one thing that really jumped out from the numbers yesterday

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Speaker 17: is this gap that's opened up between its essentials inflation

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Speaker 17: and non essentials. Not all inflation has created equal It's

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Speaker 17: hardly the sort of indicative of a of an accelerating economy,

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Speaker 17: sort of inflation that we're getting in and of itself.

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Speaker 17: The fact that you're getting these higher costs for the

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Speaker 17: lights of food and energy, pulling income away from households,

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Speaker 17: should actually slow things down even more, you know, retail

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Speaker 17: spending in the economy more generally. So I think we've

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Speaker 17: still got enough via I mean, it's pretty hard to

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Speaker 17: be confident about anything in the current environment, but there

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Speaker 17: are enough well there's enough evidence to suggest that this

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Speaker 17: is a temporary bout of inflation and we'll start to

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Speaker 17: set things cool off.

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Speaker 2: Boy, I hope you hope you're might appreciate it. Mike Giants,

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Speaker 2: who's the BENS it's chief economists. It's not often I

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Speaker 2: say this, but we have good news from the White thing.

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Speaker 2: Each renal. In fact, I think it's the first time

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Speaker 2: I've ever said it. We have good news from the

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Speaker 2: White Hangi Tribunal. More shortly fourteen past the like.

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Speaker 2: Health Minister shortly by the way on the Medsicore seventeen

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Speaker 2: past seven, got more ankst in the greyhound industry as

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Speaker 2: they slowly but surely get closed down. The government's looking

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Speaker 2: into the feasibility now forcing the TAB to cover the

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Speaker 2: constant rehoming dogs. Industry wants taxpayers to put the bill.

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Speaker 2: The bill, by the way, is about forty million. Edward

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Speaker 2: Reyneld's the CEO of greyhound Racing New Zealand and as well.

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Speaker 2: They said, good morning, yeah, good morning, make good morning.

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Speaker 2: How much how much are you involved in this in

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Speaker 2: terms of you know where you go and where the

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Speaker 2: industry goes and what the government does. Are you in

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Speaker 2: contact with the government.

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Speaker 18: We've had some meetings with the ministera as an advisory committee,

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Speaker 18: but we have had no meetings at all the Minister

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Speaker 18: since twenty three when he was appointed.

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Speaker 2: And what's the irrationale behind the TAB and would the

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Speaker 2: TB be remotely.

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Speaker 18: Interested well, I think the rest the intense the TV.

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Speaker 18: Even though new Zellen greyhound racing will be stopped, they're

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Speaker 18: still looking to bring in forty over forty six ers

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Speaker 18: and races from greyhounds in Australia and they will be

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Speaker 18: looking to use the income from that to fund the rehoming,

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Speaker 18: which in many ways that makes sense. We've never said

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Speaker 18: the taxpayer should fund it. We've always said that it

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Speaker 18: needed and needed to be addressed. However, what hasn't you know,

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Speaker 18: there's all this talk about rehoming, but there's no quick

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Speaker 18: consideration of support for our people and compensation for them.

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Speaker 18: You know, I've had people who have invested thousands into

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Speaker 18: upgrading their facilities at a trainer, a breeder last night

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Speaker 18: talking about how he had invested two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 18: thousand and frozen seamen that is now worthless. So at

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Speaker 18: what point is the government going to discuss Well, they

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Speaker 18: won't for our people.

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Speaker 2: Well they're not going to because well, I mean their

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Speaker 2: argument will be they warned, you warned, you warned, you warned,

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Speaker 2: you warned you and warned you and you didn't fix

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Speaker 2: your industry, so get lost.

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Speaker 18: Yeah that's completely wrong.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know that But that's their argument, isn't it.

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Speaker 18: Yep, that's thereamn But we had an independent monitor, the

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Speaker 18: Racy Integrity Board, who from June twenty three was assesssing

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Speaker 18: a performance with injuries rates is acceptable in many ways

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Speaker 18: leading racy industry in New Zealand. Yet we know that

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Speaker 18: hasn't changed from June twenty three. They're still saying that,

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Speaker 18: and the government's saying that our injury rates unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: What about a lawyer, If you talk to a lawyer,

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Speaker 2: I'm not depending. I'm not a big fan of greyhounds anyway,

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Speaker 2: but have you talk to a lawyer.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, we are undertaking legal election, seeking a judicial review

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Speaker 18: of the decision because we believe that the process that

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Speaker 18: has been adopted and the decision itself is manifestly wrong.

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Speaker 2: That'll be interesting to follow. I Appreciatedward Edward Ronell, who's

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Speaker 2: the CEO of the Greyhound Racing New Zealand, speaking of appeals,

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Speaker 2: that that this helicopter thing and all time, I've got

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Speaker 2: to get to that. I've never seen anything so bizarre

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Speaker 2: in my life. But more later, Mike, why can't we

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Speaker 2: offer write offs loan write offs for young graduate doctors?

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Speaker 2: That they said three to five years in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: where we can they don't work. That was a Winston

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Speaker 2: Peter's idea many many years ago. It was connected to

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Speaker 2: the rural sector, and people didn't take it up. When

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Speaker 2: given the opportunity when you graduate as a doctor, when

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Speaker 2: given the opportunity to go to London or Geneva or

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Speaker 2: Soweto or whatever, or having some of your loan paid

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Speaker 2: off to go to the middle of the North Island,

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Speaker 2: they didn't take it. So it's tried and it's simply, unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: we all know she's useless. So how come I'm on

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Speaker 2: sixty nine thousand.

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Speaker 18: Ah.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the room for interpretation here or misinterpretation is immense.

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Speaker 2: What you think of yourself and what the person handing

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Speaker 2: Jenny might have been there longer, might have been hired

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Speaker 2: get her across the line. Might have been employed by

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Speaker 2: a different person in the same company. None of this

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Speaker 2: leads anywhere productive. As far as I can work out,

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Speaker 2: this is basically sticky beat law that will lead to resentment, anger,

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Speaker 2: if not fury about who does what, gets what what

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Speaker 2: they're really worth. It'll be off as gossip. It'll lead

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Speaker 2: to people ganging up on people to rumor to when

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Speaker 2: you end backstabbing in a general sense of our needs

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Speaker 2: not to mention the fact that if you have an

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Speaker 2: arrangement with your boss, that's between you and your boss.

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Speaker 2: There's a privacy issue. Obviously, unionized jobs of mass pay

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Speaker 2: are different. But a lot of the world's on a contract,

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Speaker 2: and that contract is legally binding, and it's a legally

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Speaker 2: binding understanding between you and the other party. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure Camilla or her party or now the NATS quite

882
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Speaker 2: get the fallout that's coming. Look, if I told you

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Speaker 2: my income, it'd be a headline and stuff in about

884
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Speaker 2: half an hour's time in a national debate would ensue

885
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Speaker 2: and ten thousand keyboard warriors would have a field day.

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Speaker 2: Under this new law, there's nothing stopping me. So watch

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Speaker 2: this space, Hosking right, the Waitangian Tribunal. So they've rejected,

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Speaker 2: this is the good news. They've rejected an application to

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Speaker 2: hold a fast track bid to mind the seabid of party.

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Speaker 2: This is Taranaki, of course, so trans Tasman Resources. They've

891
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Speaker 2: applied through the fast track. This is this new law

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Speaker 2: to mine for some iron and sign titanium. Some venat

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Speaker 2: South Taranicki bike whole bunch of harpoo and eue. They were,

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Speaker 2: that's not fair. We don't want any of this. So

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Speaker 2: of course, straight to the White Tangy Tribunal to seek

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Speaker 2: an injunction. Normally they'd get a special hearing, because that's

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Speaker 2: what the Tangy Tribunal does these days, because there are

898
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Speaker 2: a bunch of activists and they'll go, oh yeah, we'll

899
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Speaker 2: have a special hearing. It'll lead nowhere. None of them

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Speaker 2: leads anywhere because they've got no legal power whatsoever. They

901
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Speaker 2: just keep publishing report after report that gets ignored anyway.

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Speaker 2: So Judge Sarah Reeves agreed with the Crown. My god,

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Speaker 2: I wonder if I wonder if you needed a cup

904
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Speaker 2: of tine a lie doown? Sarah Greuts agreed with the

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Speaker 2: Crown that the fast Track needed a chance to be

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Speaker 2: proven to be fair. Blow me down. The Crown argued

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Speaker 2: a panel had not even been appointed and that he

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Speaker 2: we will contribute to that selection and get us say

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Speaker 2: once the decision making panel is working. So that almost

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Speaker 2: sounds like normal people in a room having normal discussions

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Speaker 2: and agree with each other. Wonders will never cease health,

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Speaker 2: Menace Simming and Brown on this med school and Eric

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Speaker 2: Turpel or Topel. He's he's the big man when it

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Speaker 2: comes to longevity, the study of longevity, what we need

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Speaker 2: to do to live long, not only live long, but

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Speaker 2: live well. And that's the key to all of that's

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Speaker 2: so fascinating. Discussion with him when he joins us after

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Speaker 2: eight meantime, he uses the here astor of.

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Speaker 1: Zbarnie, New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, the

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate altogether better across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news.

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Speaker 2: Togs headb Mike, I had one pay relativity experience like

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Speaker 2: you describe in the nineties where I discovered a work

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Speaker 2: peer with the same role as paid one thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: more than me. It's absolutely did Maheaden. There are no

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Speaker 2: winners with pay relativity. I tend to agree most contracts

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Speaker 2: Mike Oben involved to have a clause stating that discussing

928
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Speaker 2: your remuneration with other staff is a warning offense. Considering

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Speaker 2: a contract clause cannot overrule the law. Will this new

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Speaker 2: law meanal contract clause as avoid That's a very very

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Speaker 2: good question, which is the weirdness about the law in

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Speaker 2: the first place. Twenty three minutes away from eight now

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Speaker 2: back to the medical school. There are a few questions

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Speaker 2: yesterday about the movement of funding figures. We as in

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Speaker 2: the taxpayer on the hook for eighty two million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Originally the government initially pledged two hundred and eighty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Simming RHMS the health INDUSTRANI is with us on this

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Speaker 2: morning to.

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Speaker 18: You morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Were you surprised yesterday as you stood there next to

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Speaker 2: mister Luxon and the theatreta of the sort of the

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Speaker 2: question line and the intensity of the question line and

943
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Speaker 2: the sort of the myopic nature of the question line

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Speaker 2: you were getting or is.

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Speaker 13: That just me Well, from my perspective, I think a

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Speaker 13: number of the questions missed the fact that this is

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Speaker 13: quite a historic decision for New Zealand. Having a third

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Speaker 13: medical school, breaking up a duopoly and being able to

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Speaker 13: increase the number of doctors going into rural medicine and

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Speaker 13: GP training is really important. So this is a huge decision.

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Speaker 13: We're very proud of it. We campaign in it, and

952
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Speaker 13: we're delivering it, and we're very focused now working along

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Speaker 13: side all of our medical schools to make sure that

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Speaker 13: they're providing that future doctor pathways that New Zealand needs

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Speaker 13: for our healthcare system.

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Speaker 2: Part of the weirdness was the fact you came in

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Speaker 2: with eighty two and they come up with one p

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Speaker 2: fifty and that's less than the two to eighty and

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Speaker 2: so what you've done is look at something and done

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Speaker 2: at more cost effectively. And that seemed to be a

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Speaker 2: problem as well, which surprised me. Do we not like that?

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Speaker 13: I mean, well, we're reducing there's less money being spent

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Speaker 13: by taxpayers, there's more being contributed by the university and

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Speaker 13: also by the philanthropic supporters of that university. Our focus

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Speaker 13: now is on delivering this institution. But look, but some

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Speaker 13: of those people you know who are looking at the

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Speaker 13: cost quite intently forgetting you know this. This is a

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Speaker 13: significant increase in doctor training place over a long period

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Speaker 13: of time. This is a small amount of capital going

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Speaker 13: into making sure we can train one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 13: doctors per year over the long term. It's a long

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Speaker 13: term decision that we've made about securing the future of

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Speaker 13: medical training in New Zealand. This is a small contribution

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Speaker 13: of capital money and yes, it's tax payers money. We

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Speaker 13: respect that, but we've gone through a rigorous process to

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Speaker 13: make sure that's as efficient and cost effective as possible

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Speaker 13: so that we can get that long term pipeline that

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Speaker 13: New Zealanders need.

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Speaker 2: The post grad thing, you know, the four year corese

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Speaker 2: is is it going to be a problem in terms

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Speaker 2: of having people line up at that in that way

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Speaker 2: as opposed to what Auckland and the Target did well.

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Speaker 13: I think this is the exciting part of this new

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Speaker 13: school is it's a different model for training doctors. So

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Speaker 13: instead of people starting and doing the first year health

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Speaker 13: sciences and then going through another five years at medical school,

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Speaker 13: these people will have already graduated in another area. They

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Speaker 13: may well have experience they are in terms of being

989
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Speaker 13: a nurse, or being or a paramedic. They may well

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Speaker 13: have a range of experiences and they'll be bringing that

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Speaker 13: to this degree and then going back into their community

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Speaker 13: and being a doctor. And so it's about actually, how

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Speaker 13: do we attract people who are already living in rural communities,

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Speaker 13: living in regional New Zealanders giving them opportunities to then

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Speaker 13: train in place and stay in place, so we can

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Speaker 13: attract and retain those graduates and that's what they're doing

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Speaker 13: in Australia. It's a successful model. We're bringing that model

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Speaker 13: to New Zealand. We're doing things differently because we need

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Speaker 13: to we need to make sure we're attracting and retaining

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Speaker 13: our medical staff over a long period of time.

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Speaker 2: We had quickly on earlier on and he used the

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Speaker 2: same line you're using. I'm not convinced. I want you

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Speaker 2: to be right, but I'm not convinced a graduate will

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Speaker 2: go where a graduate will go. They might tell you

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Speaker 2: they want to go back home to the farm, or

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Speaker 2: they might tell you they want to stay in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: but they'll do what they want to do well.

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Speaker 13: The research out out of Queensland indicates a much higher

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Speaker 13: number of graduates will stay back where they're from, So

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Speaker 13: you get a lot higher numbers staying in there's more

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Speaker 13: regional communities if that's the model that you're using. And

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Speaker 13: also it's about the candidates selection as well, So the

1013
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Speaker 13: candidate selection becomes really important. Make sure you're attracting people

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Speaker 13: who are already demonstrating a commitment to those communities, providing

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Speaker 13: them there and to train in those communities much more,

1016
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Speaker 13: much higher chance than then staying there. That's we have

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Speaker 13: to do things differently on this MIC and that's why

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Speaker 13: this model is being supported by this government because we

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Speaker 13: have to do things differently to attract and retain medical

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Speaker 13: staff over a long period of time.

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Speaker 2: Are they going to run a model where if you're

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Speaker 2: of a certain race you get in more easily like

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Speaker 2: a tiger in Auckland.

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Speaker 13: Look, the focus here is on attracting and retaining people

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Speaker 13: from those more rural communities regional New Zealand. They will

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Speaker 13: go through a process where they develop the admission criteria,

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Speaker 13: but we've been very clear at the same time, this

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Speaker 13: government is going to be progressing under the Coalition agreement

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Speaker 13: a review of that MAPUS criteria, which is a commitment

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Speaker 13: and the coalition agreement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the review is not doing anything, it's just

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Speaker 2: a review. So will they or won't they?

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Speaker 13: Well, their admission criteria will be developed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it's developed with a MARI person gets

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Speaker 2: in on seventy nine percent and everyone else's ninety eight percent,

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Speaker 2: are you going to do that or not?

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Speaker 13: We're working obviously with the university. The priority here is

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Speaker 13: to make sure we're getting people from regional New Zealand

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Speaker 13: going through.

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Speaker 2: This bus It's a simple question, swimming. If the regional

1041
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Speaker 2: person happens to be Murray, will they get in with

1042
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Speaker 2: a lower score than a non Murray.

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Speaker 13: We want, we want people who have We want to

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Speaker 13: make sure it's a fear system. Is the current system

1045
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Speaker 13: for it is, Well, that's why we're doing a review

1046
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Speaker 13: of it.

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Speaker 2: With a view to what fixing it or just looking

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Speaker 2: at it.

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Speaker 10: They need to make sure.

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Speaker 13: We need to part of the coalition agreement is to

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Speaker 13: review whether or not it is supporting people from Marii

1052
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Speaker 13: and Pacific communities and actually those people are then working

1053
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Speaker 13: in those communities to improve health outcomes. That's something which

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Speaker 13: we need to make sure is that actually working is

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Speaker 13: it not? And then we'll make decisions following that.

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Speaker 2: What's your view as you sit here talking to me

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Speaker 2: this morning, Well, I.

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Speaker 13: Want to make sure that we're giving more New Zealanders

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Speaker 13: opportunities to train to become doctors in New Zealand. And

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Speaker 13: that's what today's announcement's all about.

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Speaker 2: See I'm left with the text now, Swimming, and you

1062
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Speaker 2: haven't helped me out here. All you're doing is obfuscating

1063
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Speaker 2: and you have not clearly answered a fairly simple question.

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Speaker 13: As I said, today's about making sure that we are

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Speaker 13: committing to the long term pipeline of doctors. There is

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Speaker 13: a separate review underway into that and to the MARI

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Speaker 13: and pacifica admission scheme where we're progressing that as a government.

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Speaker 13: Ultimately that will then determine the next steps in regards

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Speaker 13: to those policies.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your time as always, Assuming Brown, the Health

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Speaker 2: Minister with us this morning.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Don't have to think just like this sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: A the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: It'd be thirteen away from it. So obviously I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to read all the text out. But here's once

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Speaker 2: again I read to the National Party's problem. I don't

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Speaker 2: know and this is not about Maori. This is not

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Speaker 2: race based. On whether you agree with it or disagree that.

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Speaker 2: You can agree or disagree with all you want doesn't

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Speaker 2: really matter. What this government or what this party said

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Speaker 2: is they would get rid of race based. That was

1084
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: their policy, That's what they promised they would do. So

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00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: when I ask a question like will you have a

1086
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: race based policy for this new medical school, the answer is, well,

1087
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 2: we campaigned of course, on getting rid of them, So no,

1088
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: we won't that would have been the answer, or well

1089
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: we've changed our mind and know we're going to all that.

1090
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: Well whatever, But this business of while we're having a

1091
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: review and we're having how many reviews they're having, we're

1092
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: still standing by for Tama Potarker's review into the electioneering

1093
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: and that's going on. I mean, they're just every time

1094
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: they want to obfuscate or stall, they just go, well,

1095
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,439
Speaker 2: we're having a review into that, and all that does

1096
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: is leads you to believe they say one thing, but

1097
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: they don't really want to do it, and hence they're

1098
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: trouble in the polls. And that's the difficulty they've got.

1099
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: And they can't keep hiding because this election is going

1100
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: to be a bad business. If this is the way

1101
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 2: they're going to continue operating, just take a stand and

1102
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: stand behind your stand and believe in them. Then we

1103
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 2: come to the Auckland Mayor's office. I don't mention Auckland issues,

1104
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: or I try not to because it bores the rest

1105
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: of the country. But in all, we've got a guy

1106
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: called Wayne Brown who wants to be re elected. But

1107
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: he's got a chief of staff and his chief of

1108
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: staff is called Jazz. Jazz Singh is his name. Anyway,

1109
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: Jazz ran a company and the company's gone into liquidation.

1110
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 2: So Jazz is the chief of staff for the Mayor,

1111
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: but he's also running a company that's gone into liquidation.

1112
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Speaker 2: Was the council aware of Jazz's company, Yes they were.

1113
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 2: Was the council aware of Jazz's company going into liquidation,

1114
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: No they weren't. So this has come as a little

1115
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: bit of a surprise. So then you ask the question,

1116
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: does Jazz know what he's doing? So initially he was

1117
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: the head of the Budget and Finance for the mayor

1118
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: Budget and Finance. Previously, he's held roles as general manager

1119
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: for Procurement, Head of Risk, manager of property and commercial

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Speaker 2: legal services.

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Speaker 19: I likes them.

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Speaker 2: Let me quote your brown on Jazz. I'm pleased to

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Speaker 2: announce that Jazz Singh will be my new chief of staff.

1124
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Speaker 2: As well as being a strong family man and a

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Speaker 2: father of six, he's got strong business smarts and will

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00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: be the first finance person in the role since the

1127
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: formation of the supersity. Now, I mean, maybe something's gone

1128
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Speaker 2: wrong and I don't want to kick a guy when

1129
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: he's down, and there have been plenty of people from

1130
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: plenty of companies that, for reasons and circumstances beyond their

1131
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: own control, they found themselves in an element of difficulty.

1132
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Speaker 2: In fact, they argue that to be a great entrepreneur

1133
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: you need to have failed many, many times. But in

1134
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: the light of him being in the public office, being

1135
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: paid by the ratepayers of Auckland, but at the same

1136
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: time watching a company of his go into liquidation and

1137
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 2: not really telling the council about it, I'm just wondering

1138
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 2: if there might be a few questions there. Turn away

1139
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 2: from eight.

1140
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Speaker 1: The Mike asking Breakfast with the Landrover, Discovery News, Tom Send.

1141
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: Fo siving away from Anitball New Zealand. Have you turned

1142
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: on eligibility rules? The likes of Grays and Wiki who

1143
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: ditched downleig of course, for the Australians will now be

1144
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,959
Speaker 2: eligible for the Ferns again. An exemption process will allow

1145
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: overseas players to formally apply for selection. Matt winner Ray

1146
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: is the chair of the New Zealand Netball and Nitball

1147
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: New Zealand's with Us Matt Morning, Good morning, Mike. Did

1148
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: this need to get as angsty as it did?

1149
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's a good question, Mike Look, you know, we've

1150
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 19: been working through it. We've had obviously some continued interests

1151
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 19: via lead athletes to play overseas. You know, that's something

1152
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 19: that's common across many sporting codes, and we've been working

1153
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 19: through this to make sure that we balance, you know,

1154
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 19: all the interests we've We've got to balance those players

1155
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 19: estimations and their development. We've got needs in the high

1156
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 19: performance system and the silk ferns, and obviously we've got

1157
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 19: the strength of domestic competition, so we needed to make

1158
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 19: sure that was right. I think people got frustrated that

1159
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 19: it took us a while to work through those, but

1160
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 19: we're very pleased that we're at this point now.

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Speaker 2: Could you not have foreseen all of this coming? In

1162
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: other words, you weren't the first sport to face up

1163
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 2: to it, and they've all dealt with it in their

1164
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 2: own way. You could have gone, hey, when it happens here,

1165
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: how here's our model, and then you know, met it

1166
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: when it arrived.

1167
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: I think all sports are dealing with this and dealing

1169
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 19: it with it in their own ways, and this is

1170
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 19: a slightly different way from how some other sports have

1171
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 19: dealt with it. But you know, we're pleased that We've

1172
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 19: got a process in place now which allows us to

1173
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 19: balance those different needs and also to understand to really

1174
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 19: understand how it fits in with the needs of our

1175
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 19: system and our domestic league.

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Speaker 2: Your domestic league looks weak at the moment.

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Speaker 10: Is that fair?

1178
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Speaker 2: And has that been part of the problem.

1179
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Speaker 19: Now, we've had a great season this season, had a great.

1180
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Speaker 2: Season, but it's not what it was. You know what

1181
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: I mean, You're not playing the Australians. It's not quite.

1182
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: It doesn't quite have the fizz that it used to.

1183
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 19: It's got a lot of fids this year. We've had

1184
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 19: great engagement. We've had bigger crowds, we've had more viewership

1185
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 19: and everyone's engaged with that. I think we're continuing to

1186
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 19: face into a pretty difficult commercial market, but we're committed

1187
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 19: to being there next year. We've committed to the system

1188
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 19: that we'll be. We'll be putting it on in twenty

1189
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Speaker 19: six in the same in the same format with six

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Speaker 19: with six teams, and we're looking forward to continuing that

1191
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 19: that growth and engagement that we've seen this year.

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Speaker 2: Good hey, put another hat on. Congratulations on that report.

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Speaker 2: Your right on insurance. Do you think it will ultimately

1194
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: go anywhere.

1195
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Speaker 19: Well, well, I hope it does, because it's a it's

1196
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 19: you know, it's just another one of these things that

1197
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 19: if we kick it down the road that can get's

1198
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 19: pretty big and then you can't tick it. And so

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Speaker 19: so you know what we're trying to do with that

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Speaker 19: is we look, we're providing advice to the m I

1201
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Speaker 19: F E, m IF developing the policy. But I think

1202
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 19: it's important that there's a conversation about this and we

1203
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 19: start start, you know, grasping the editle. Essentially, these are

1204
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 19: these are hard problems that there's no easy solutions to

1205
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 19: them if we'd already have them. But but we've got

1206
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Speaker 19: to have that conversation. So I'm hopeful that it does good.

1207
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Speaker 2: Good nice to talk to you, appreciate it very much.

1208
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: Matt Winnerray, chair of the Netball in New Zealand, and

1209
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: I brunched I thought gracefully into another subject. He was

1210
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: the ahad of the group that wrote the report. Was

1211
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 2: it last week or the week before whenever? It was

1212
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: basically saying, at some point, you've got to work out

1213
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: that living next to a river is probably not for

1214
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: you if you want somebody to come to your rescue.

1215
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: Financially and it cannot be the government forever. And I

1216
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: know how many years have been saying it on this

1217
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: program that at some point someone's going to have to

1218
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: harden up and make a few I reckon the National

1219
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: Party for it. I reckon National Party. We should probably

1220
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: do a review.

1221
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Speaker 13: Yes, it's a grind as we get the car out

1222
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 13: of the ditch and turned up the right way and

1223
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 13: into first the second gear.

1224
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: Couldn't put it better myself anyway, but good on him

1225
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: for fronting that report and at least at this point anyway,

1226
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 2: asking a few hard questions living well, longer, longevity more shortly.

1227
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Speaker 1: Setting the agenda and talking the big issues the mic,

1228
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Speaker 1: talking breakfast with a Vita, retirement, communities, life your way,

1229
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: news talk stead be.

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Speaker 2: It a seven past stage. So let's get into a

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01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 2: little bit of health talk and specifically longevity. The king

1232
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 2: of the hill is doctor Eric Taple, the cardiologist who's

1233
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: been researching longevity for decades. Of these in the top

1234
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: ten must iated authors in the history of medical research,

1235
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 2: is also considered one of the top five voices of longevity.

1236
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Speaker 2: His book is Superaging That's Must read in Doctor Eric

1237
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: Taples wh us out of Lahoya in the states.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Thank good morning, mate.

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Speaker 2: These exciting, if not historic times in terms of longevity.

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Speaker 20: I do think so it's not exactly longevity or life span.

1241
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 20: I do think it's extending health span. That is the

1242
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 20: number of years of life with intact health.

1243
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: Do you think most people get that, because we are

1244
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: fascinated with numbers. If you can live to one hundred

1245
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: and forty three, it's fantastic.

1246
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 20: Well, I hope that you get it, because if you

1247
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 20: live to ninety and you're perfectly healthy throughout, that ought

1248
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 20: to be the goal, rather than trying to live to

1249
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 20: one hundred and ten and having many years of dementia

1250
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 20: or profound frailty or poor quality of life.

1251
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: Told us through the bicics Solvent, how much of its genetics?

1252
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: If it's genetics, how much can you do about that?

1253
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 2: How young do you need to start? Can you retrofit

1254
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: to yourself? All of those matters.

1255
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 20: Yeah, it turns out the genetics for health span isn't

1256
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 20: nearly what we expected. We did a big study fourteen

1257
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 20: hundred people, you know, almost age ninety whole genome sequencing.

1258
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 20: We didn't find much. And also the patients in the

1259
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 20: book I presented in Superagers they had, their relatives died

1260
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 20: ninety eight year old woman, her parents, her brothers all

1261
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 20: died in their fifties and sixties. So it isn't genetics.

1262
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 20: That may be a small part. There's a small part

1263
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 20: of luck, perhaps, but the big reason that people have

1264
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 20: health span that's so extraordinary is because the immune system

1265
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 20: is so intact throughout their lives.

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01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 10: How do you do that?

1267
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so a lot of ways you can do that.

1268
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 20: The factors that you know, Mike and I'm sure all

1269
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 20: your listeners, like diet that avoids things that are pro inflammatory,

1270
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 20: that exercise both aerobic and resistance training, and good sleep health.

1271
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 20: These things are fundamental to preventing an untoward inflammation in

1272
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 20: the body and keeping your.

1273
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 4: Immune system intact.

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Speaker 20: But just more than that, we're learning lots of ways

1275
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 20: that we can get the pace of aging in a

1276
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 20: person through these clocks. So there's a science of aging

1277
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 20: that's giving us these new metrics to assess whether a

1278
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 20: person's immune system and their vital organs are pacing at

1279
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 20: a fast or slow rate relative to their biological age.

1280
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 2: I suppose the problem we find that the more we

1281
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: know is whether as averages, So a person like you, guys,

1282
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: on average, the city, the society, whatever versus me, and

1283
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, well, I personally can live to naughty eight

1284
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: and will So is it individual or is it averages?

1285
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 20: Well, really, what's important, at least to me is the

1286
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 20: individual story. The averages are meaningless when it comes down

1287
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 20: to the single person. So that's why these metrics that

1288
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 20: have come from the science of aging are so helpful

1289
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 20: because you can look at organ clocks, whole body clocks,

1290
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 20: and you can see whether or not there's something that's

1291
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 20: off track and get on top of it. Because the

1292
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 20: big three age related diseases that interfere with our health

1293
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 20: span are heart disease, ner general disease, and cancer, and

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Speaker 20: now they take twenty years to actually while they're incubating

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Speaker 20: in our bodies. If we can't get ahead of those, Mike,

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Speaker 20: we got trouble. We have to be smarter than that.

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Speaker 2: The medical intervention in being able to measure these things

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Speaker 2: in life. Are we advancing in that area as well?

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Speaker 20: Yes, as you know, these golp one drugs like ozembic

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Speaker 20: have profound anti inflammatory effects in the body and the brain.

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Speaker 20: But that's just the beginning of this gut hormone revolution

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Speaker 20: in medicine. There's like fifteen of these hormones in combinations

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Speaker 20: and various doses in pill form that are going to

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Speaker 20: be very important because, as I mentioned, the immune system

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Speaker 20: keeping that intact and getting rid of bad inflammation. We've

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Speaker 20: never had good drugs to do that, and we're starting

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Speaker 20: to see that.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: How experimental is this GP stuff that we're taking at

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Speaker 2: the mindment? I mean, the more I read about it,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I see what happens to people, but equally

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Speaker 2: I see potentially what will be seen to be side

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Speaker 2: effixed down the track. Are we still in an experimental

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Speaker 2: phase of this? Will not no no longer?

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Speaker 20: You know, we're twenty years into this golp one story.

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Speaker 20: Every side of it it has been tracked down. Turns

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Speaker 20: out it's either not worrisome or it can be. For example,

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Speaker 20: the muscle mass issue can be counted by resistance training,

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Speaker 20: so there's no side effect that's going to hold this back. Surprisingly,

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Speaker 20: I mean, really, I'm never want to be supportive of

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Speaker 20: the pharma industry, but this time it looks like they've

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Speaker 20: really hit it big and it's just the beginning of it.

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Speaker 20: Because we haven't gotten these into pills yet, going to

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Speaker 20: make it much less expensive, and there's much more potent

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Speaker 20: ones coming, and of course there's other drugs that have

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Speaker 20: this strong anti inflammatory, pro immune system effect that we're

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Speaker 20: going to see. It's going to make a uge difference

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Speaker 20: in preventing these diseases.

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Speaker 2: Will we simply be in an age whereby you can

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Speaker 2: do whatever you want to do. The doctor eventually goes

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Speaker 2: you'll need to stop and take some of this. I'll

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Speaker 2: take the pill or pills, and my problem is over.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's never going to be simple as a pill.

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Speaker 20: There's still the lifestyle factors that we viewed and even

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Speaker 20: more and of course some of the things that we

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Speaker 20: have that are real problems, like air pollution and the plastics,

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Speaker 20: micro nanoplastics and forever chemicals, we're not doing enough to

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Speaker 20: get those down to control those because those are also affecting. So,

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Speaker 20: you know, it's a combination of all these things. We

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Speaker 20: have to get on better lifestyle behavioral factors. We have

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Speaker 20: to do something about our environmental toxins that's not helping

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Speaker 20: this at all. And of course there's going to be

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Speaker 20: better treatments and medications to achieve prevention. In the years ahead.

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Speaker 20: We're going to be able to prevent the Big three

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Speaker 20: diseases like never before, and in fact, we've never done

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Speaker 20: a good job of any any of them.

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Speaker 4: Well that's what's so exciting.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say. As part of the problem, though,

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Speaker 2: the more we can treat, the heart of the messaging

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Speaker 2: will be around lifestyle, because surely if we've not looked

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Speaker 2: after ourselves well to this point, once you've suddenly got

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Speaker 2: what we would perceive to be a miracle, Cua, you're

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Speaker 2: not talking to me about exercise and slip because I

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Speaker 2: didn't need it because I got my magic pill.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, well, this is a really good point you're making.

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Speaker 20: But what's different about the current situation is we used

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Speaker 20: to just tell people this is what you should do,

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Speaker 20: but there wasn't any specificity at the individual.

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Speaker 4: Level that a point you made earlier. But we're going

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Speaker 4: to be able to say to a person, you.

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Speaker 20: Know, you are at high risk for Alzheimer's disease in

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Speaker 20: the next fourteen years, and these are the things in

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Speaker 20: your lifestyle, and we're going to be able to measure

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Speaker 20: whether or not we change your brain clock and all

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Speaker 20: these other markers, and they're modifiable, These markers like so

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Speaker 20: called petower two seventeen, and that's going to be motivating

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Speaker 20: for people as opposed to the general recommendations for the

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Speaker 20: entire population. So specificity at the individual level and temporal features,

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Speaker 20: saying when these are things we've never been able to

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Speaker 20: do before, that's what AI can help provide.

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Speaker 2: All right, listen to hold on, Eric, come back to

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Speaker 2: you in a couple of moments, doctor Eric Topol, who's

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Speaker 2: out of La Jolla. This morning, fifteen past.

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Speaker 1: Eight the Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talk hipp.

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Speaker 2: News Talks, seventeen past I guess is doctor Eric Tapele listen?

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Eric, Is there still value

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Speaker 2: do you reckon and regulating sleep, eating well, exercising and

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Speaker 2: doing that for genuine enjoyment and longevity and actually trying

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Speaker 2: to avoid pills and potions and medications.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, this is really important, Mike, because as I reviewed

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Speaker 20: in the book, if you started age fifty, no less earlier,

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Speaker 20: but let's say fifty, multiple studies show that if you

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Speaker 20: are doing the things you just mentioned, you get seven

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Speaker 20: to ten years of health span intact healthy aging. So

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Speaker 20: it's as you're saying, we don't get people to do

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Speaker 20: these things. But that in itself to provide a lot

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Speaker 20: of incentive. But we're going to get even more incentive

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Speaker 20: in the future by having individualized forecasting.

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Speaker 2: What's your view on the blue zones?

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Speaker 10: Are they real?

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Speaker 2: Is there something in those nothing at all?

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Speaker 20: Their bogus? Unfortunately, it was a kind of you know,

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Speaker 20: affirmation confirmation bias. We all wanted there to be blue zones,

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Speaker 20: but no, these people it was mythical. They never had

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Speaker 20: documentation of their ages. And sure there are people that

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Speaker 20: have extraordinary health span, but that's not been proven by

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Speaker 20: the blue zones.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: What's your expectation, all things being equal, and when we

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Speaker 2: talk about longevity, you should be what eighty seven and

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Speaker 2: playing good tennis ninety six and playing excellent volleyball or what.

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Speaker 20: Well, I would say a superager or what we call

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01:09:55,360 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 20: the welderly has gone past eighty five plus and never

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Speaker 20: had cancer, heart disease, or neurodegenerative disease. It's totally intact,

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01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 20: you know, cognitivevilion physically. Now, if they're playing tennis or whatever,

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Speaker 20: that's fine, they don't have to. But you know the

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Speaker 20: point is they've reached that age and they've not they've

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Speaker 20: never had to be hit with the Big three. And

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Speaker 20: that's a really great goal that we're gonna achieve. And

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Speaker 20: we're gonna flip the elderly, which is what we have

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Speaker 20: right now, people at sixty five and older. They're mostly

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Speaker 20: the elderly with a chronic disease. We're gonna flip that

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Speaker 20: to the welderly superagers in the future.

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Speaker 2: Is this western or global?

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Speaker 4: Global?

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Speaker 2: Is Weston a problem? Is being wester In a problem?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: I mean we unfortunately, like for in the US, we

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Speaker 20: have the worst consumption of ultra processed food, and we

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Speaker 20: have the worst plastics and microplastics story around there. So

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Speaker 20: there are some problems Western and particularly US centric that

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Speaker 20: are really hurting us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't a funny. I've always found it fascinating the

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Speaker 2: more we know. I look at a place like America

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Speaker 2: or New Zealand's no better in terms of obesity and

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Speaker 2: food and stuff. So we know the answer, and yet

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Speaker 2: we don't want to. I mean, how do you explain

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Speaker 2: obesity and how do you explain how people eat what

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Speaker 2: they eat and all of that.

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Speaker 20: Well, unfortunately it's not like a simple explanation, right, I Mean,

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Speaker 20: it's a lot tied into ultra processed foods and poor diet,

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Speaker 20: and there's factors that we still don't even understand about

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Speaker 20: how this has been this steady epidemic of diabesity.

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Speaker 4: But you know, we have a counter to that. Now.

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Speaker 4: We have a class of drugs that.

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Speaker 20: Help and they're going to be, as I mentioned, much

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Speaker 20: cheaper and in pill form. The problem we have is

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Speaker 20: we don't want them to be forever drugs. We hate

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Speaker 20: to have people taking these for their whole life, so

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Speaker 20: they could not be obese or marketly overweight.

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Speaker 4: We have to come up with strategies that keep people

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Speaker 4: at a much better.

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Speaker 20: Health status and body weight throughout their lives without having

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Speaker 20: to rely on pills.

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Speaker 2: Idealing two questions from my wife. One, you don't eat

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Speaker 2: red meat heaven for a long period of time. Where

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Speaker 2: do you get the stuff that you would get from

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Speaker 2: red meat from?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I love, of course, salmon and seafood.

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Speaker 20: I love, you know, lots of things that are good

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Speaker 20: sources of protein that don't require red meat. You know,

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Speaker 20: I follow largely a plant based diet, Mediterranean type diet.

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Speaker 20: So yeah, I think red meat has been incriminated for

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Speaker 20: a long time. You know, I tell my patients you know,

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Speaker 20: it's fine to have red meat, but just don't do

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Speaker 20: it on a frequent basis.

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Speaker 4: But there's some people who are.

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Speaker 20: Very committed carnivores and I can't affect they're interest.

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Speaker 2: Second question from my wife. I have an espress, though

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Speaker 2: at two thirty in the morning every morning. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a gut cleanser. Am I right? Or am I

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Speaker 2: killing myself?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 20: Actually, the data for coffee is so good. It's one

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Speaker 20: of the only things I know that people love that

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Speaker 20: it's actually good for you. So all the data show

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Speaker 20: up to four cups a day or expresso like you take.

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Speaker 20: There's nothing wrong with that. It actually is an associated

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Speaker 20: with every positive health outcome you can imagine.

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Speaker 2: I've enjoyed the conversation. Maybe we'll get together in ten

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Speaker 2: years and see how we're going.

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Speaker 4: It sounds good. I enjoyed it as well, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Eric, go well, Eric Turple, Doctor Eric T. Tople

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Speaker 2: out of La Joyea this morning. His book is super Agent.

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Speaker 1: It is a twenty three the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Bailey's Real Estate News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Did be microformer pilates is the bomb for healthy Agent? Craig,

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Speaker 2: I don't know it's a complete picture. But reformer pilarates

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Speaker 2: is certainly fun, there's no question about that. Unfortunately, the

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Speaker 2: food companies will never allow this, the so called heart

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Speaker 2: rate of food of full of sugar. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 2: up to you. You don't rely on you know, companies

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Speaker 2: to do the job for you. If you want to

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Speaker 2: eat well and live well, you can. It's up to you,

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Speaker 2: not them. Sports advertising my has gone from banning alcohol

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Speaker 2: and cigarettes next to the KF said, it's very good

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Speaker 2: question that I do look at that every time I

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Speaker 2: see booze or and I just wanted, jeez, am I

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Speaker 2: getting a bit old on that, you know thing about

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Speaker 2: sponsorship and sport and elite athletes and fried food and

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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. But at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, once again, it's up to you. If you

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Speaker 2: want to live well and live healthy, then you can.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know where to start with Britain at

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Speaker 2: the moment they were busy being bogged down yet again

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East. They've got the water problems teen

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Speaker 2: water and the disaster and a new regulator, and then

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Speaker 2: they've got the state age pitchure. Now the problem is

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Speaker 2: Rachel Reeves, how long she lasts as Chancellor. I got

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Speaker 2: no idea, but she's said, once upon a time there

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Speaker 2: were no tax increases, but they are going to be

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Speaker 2: tax increases. They need some savings. How they're going to

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Speaker 2: make the savings. Why they're going to up the retirement age,

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Speaker 2: aren't they? And you know how angsty the old retirement

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Speaker 2: age debates gets because we're having it, have had it,

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Speaker 2: will have it in this country anyway, Rod for you

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Speaker 2: shortly after the news, which is next news talk in

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Speaker 2: the mass.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

1512
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Speaker 1: the mac Asking Breakfast with the land Rover, Discovery never

1513
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: Stop Discovering news togs eDV.

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Speaker 2: So some debate failed to mention it with Greg earlier

1515
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Speaker 2: on this morning at the start of the show, with

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Speaker 2: the business of the shares and the results and all

1517
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. There is a sort of a

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Speaker 2: I don't know a fear is the right word, but

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01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: there's an element of concern in the American market at

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01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: the moment that the reporting season may not see any

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Speaker 2: sort of tariff effect. In other words, people so far,

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01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 2: you know, doing well, and everyone goes say tariffs aren't

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01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 2: really a problem. Well, you're starting to see it already Stilantis,

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01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 2: who make cars, and they're into everything from Jeep, Dodge,

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Speaker 2: fie at Chrysler, Pergo, Maserati, Alpha Lancia. They announced overnight

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Speaker 2: that the preliminary estimates for the first six months of

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Speaker 2: this year they're withdrawing their full yet. Gardens by the way,

1528
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 2: because they don't have a clue what's going on anymore.

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01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 2: The effect of US tariffs on their business is five

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01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: billion dollars one company, five billion dollars. Porsche said something

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01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 2: similar overnight out of Europe as well. The cut they're

1532
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 2: doing some layoffs and catelegs and stuff like that. So

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01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,759
Speaker 2: it is starting to get very real and very material.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes away.

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Speaker 1: From nine International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace

1536
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: of mind for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Business Britain, we go on little morning to you mate,

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01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,799
Speaker 2: Good morning to you mate. This pension age that you're reviewing,

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01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 2: that labour's reviewing. Is this all tied in some way,

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01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 2: shape or form of the fact that rightel's going to

1541
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 2: need a bit more money or save some money here

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01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 2: and this is the next port of call.

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Speaker 8: Yes, exactly, that's precisely it. Having given a promise to

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01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 8: the elector that they wouldn't raise taxes and then caved

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Speaker 8: into their own backbenches on saving money through welfare. The

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01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 8: next raid is on pensions. Now, in fairness to labor,

1547
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 8: the Tories also have their eyes on pension and the

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01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 8: pension age has been increased. It's now sixty six for men.

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01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 8: It's sixty six for everyone. Now it's sixty six for men,

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01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 8: rising to sixty seven two years from now twenty twenty seven.

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01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,799
Speaker 8: The idea is that they should bring in the changes

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01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 8: more quickly and also raised the pension age as well.

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01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 8: So they were going to win for if they just

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01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 8: raised the pension age and gave it. You know, the

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01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 8: usual thing is to say we're giving you ten years

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01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 8: to think about this. Now it's going to be you know,

1557
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 8: two or three years, or they won't get any money.

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01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 8: They won't see the benefit of that revenue.

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01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 2: How politically angsty is this of.

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Speaker 8: The options which are on the table for labor, probably

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01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 8: towards the lesser end. I say that simply because the

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01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 8: pension age has already been raised. You know, it's going

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01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 8: to be sixty seven in two years time. It's sixty

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01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 8: six at the moment it was raised from sixty five.

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01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 8: So in a sense, it's sort of like boiling the

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01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,560
Speaker 8: frog alive in Assurceman. The public is ready for it.

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01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 8: It won't be popular, but it won't be quite as

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01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 8: damaging as saying putting two p on the top right tacks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Farajan has idea to have crime. I mean, I

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01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 2: assume it plays there the same way it plays pretty

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01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 2: much in every Western country. The politician who comes out

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01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 2: with the claim that they can do a lot of

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01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 2: good stuff with crime is a popular politician.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, it follows hot on the heels of an

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01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 8: opinion poll which was out last week which said that

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01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:28,480
Speaker 8: the entire country is terrified or worried about crime, furious

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01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 8: that shoplifters don't get banged up, and doesn't believe that labor,

1578
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 8: the Tories or the lib Dems will do anything about it.

1579
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 8: So Farrell steps in and says, right, we're going to

1580
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 8: build We're going to build a bunch of what he's

1581
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 8: calling Nightingale prisons on mod Land, which will house sixteen

1582
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 8: thousand prisoners. Every shoplifter who gets convicted should be going

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01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 8: to prison, and all this cinctus very very robust stuff.

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Speaker 8: Every mobile phone with stolen. We will track it down.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 8: It's it's it's great populist stuff. He's even suggested sending

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Speaker 8: foreign criminals and indeed some domestic criminals to help Salvador.

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01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 8: I know Donald Trump picked El Salvador out, but it's

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01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 8: a bit different for us. So there is it will

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01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 8: get him another two or three percent in the polls,

1591
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 8: you know, and this will keep going. No way that

1592
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 8: he can expert pay for all of this, but nonetheless

1593
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 8: it's very very popular stuff.

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01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 2: Speaking of answers, a couple of things I've been reading

1595
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: while I've been a why that there was this protest

1596
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 2: over the weekend. A thousand people gathered at the Bell

1597
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,879
Speaker 2: Hotel and ipping in Essex. This is this, this migration

1598
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 2: immigration hotel bill. I know the government we're busy saying,

1599
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: oh look we've cut the bill by thirty percent. Is

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01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 2: this ever going to end? Do you think all for

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01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 2: every summer for the next one hundred years there are

1602
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 2: going to be protests, there are going to be boats,

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01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: there are going to be promises.

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Speaker 8: Well, I don't know. I think it would end if

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01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,600
Speaker 8: reforms are into power, because I think if reform do

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Speaker 8: get in power, then fairly swift decisions would be taken

1607
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Speaker 8: on the future of asylum seekers. And that's what it

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01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 8: would seem again with reform that the public wants. The

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01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 8: people who were demonstrating in epic where an Ethiopian asylum

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01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 8: seeker is up in court for having sexually assaulted a

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Speaker 8: young or allegedly sexually assaulting a fourteen year old girl,

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01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 8: the people who were protesting, Yeah, there were the usual lot.

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01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 8: There were the usual lot in their cent George's T

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01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 8: shirts and their crew cuts, you know. But there were

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01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 8: also company directors and grandmothers and it's quite posh epping

1616
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 8: and you know, very respectable members of the society. And

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01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 8: I have to tell you the whole communities up and

1618
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 8: down the country feel exactly the same way.

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01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 2: Interesting the teams I know Tims water as you post

1620
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 2: a child for privatization gone wrong. Is the water system

1621
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 2: in Britain generally stuffed or is it just Teams water

1622
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 2: and does as regulate to change anything?

1623
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 8: Now the whole thing's stuffed, mate, I'm afraid Thameswater is

1624
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 8: merely the worst possible example of it. We have Victorian infrastructure,

1625
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 8: that is true, not enough of it has been repaired

1626
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 8: and brought up to date. But we are one of

1627
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 8: the rainiest countries in the world, and you know there's

1628
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 8: a hose pipe ban in force at the moment. Who

1629
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 8: thirty or forty percent of our water goes down the

1630
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 8: swammy and it's it's it's excruciating as well because they've

1631
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 8: done so badly on issues of cleanliness. So there really

1632
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 8: is again. You know, if you're a populist from the left,

1633
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 8: you would say nationalize a lot of them now, and

1634
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 8: you would have a lot of support for that from

1635
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 8: people who more normally don't go in for nationalization. As

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01:21:56,160 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 8: it is, the government may follow the suggestions in this

1637
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 8: report on the state of British water industry by scrapping

1638
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 8: off the com which is a regulatory body and which

1639
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 8: is utterly useless. But there are a few other suggestions

1640
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 8: in there which may or may not get taken up.

1641
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 8: But the crucial one is it ought to be state owned.

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01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 8: People believe right.

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Speaker 2: Go well, we'll see you Thursday. Rod little out of Britain.

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01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 2: By the way, I note last week that the German Chancellor,

1645
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: on his first visit to Starmer, suggested this mets. He

1646
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 2: suggested they're going to have a direct train between London

1647
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 2: and Berlin. I believe it when I see it. They

1648
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 2: sitting up a joint task force. But I believe it

1649
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 2: when I see it. It's not a bad idea. Sixteen two.

1650
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Speaker 1: The My Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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1652
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Speaker 2: Taking away from Line Developing News and Philly significant. Sky

1653
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: TV has bought TV three for a buck. So at

1654
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 2: first blush that's exceedingly depressing because there's yet an the

1655
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 2: media asset worth essentially nothing, and sky TV, god bless them,

1656
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: have seen that, and so a dollar will change hands

1657
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 2: and TV three will have a new owner. So Warner

1658
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 2: Brothers are out of the country. The good news of

1659
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: that is Warner Brothers, of course, given their various international problems,

1660
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure weren't remotely interested in being in the country anymore,

1661
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 2: so they'll be grateful to get the hell out. Several

1662
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 2: questions come out of it, whether the Commerce Commission will

1663
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 2: need to be involved in that. I mean, can a

1664
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:28,560
Speaker 2: major player i e. Sky by another major player i e.

1665
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 2: TV three without the Commerce Commission going? Can I have

1666
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 2: some answers to a few questions. Another question would be

1667
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 2: it's very bad news for TV and Z because of

1668
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 2: course it will give Sky huge leverage on sport because

1669
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 2: they'll be able to go to oh, I don't know,

1670
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 2: let me think of a person of the rugby Union.

1671
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 2: So they'll be able to go to the Rugby Union

1672
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:50,560
Speaker 2: and they'll be able to go give you all the

1673
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 2: Sky channels, and we're going to stick you on free

1674
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 2: to wear as well. I mean they've already got Sky

1675
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 2: open of course, but they can stick it on TV

1676
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: three and maximize that. So very bad news for TB

1677
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 2: and Z, who, as far as I know, sort of

1678
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 2: want to get back into the sports business or trying

1679
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: to get back into the sports business. Will Sky be

1680
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 2: interested in continuing to pay stuff for the six o'clock

1681
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 2: news to run on TV three? Will Sky even be

1682
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 2: interested in news? If Sky is interested in news, would

1683
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: Sky want to pay stuff or would Sky want to

1684
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 2: do it themselves. So there's some question marks around that

1685
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 2: this will all unfold as of the first of August,

1686
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 2: as in next week, and they've bought three as in

1687
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Speaker 2: TV three three now in the Eden brands. Those Eden brands,

1688
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 2: I can't even remember what they called. They're called you know,

1689
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 2: they're like there was World, those weird programs, you know,

1690
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 2: like the renovation programs and all that stuff and decide dollar.

1691
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 2: So the lady from Stuff whose name I Bocher, she

1692
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 2: know Boscher, she bought her stuff for a buck, and

1693
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:54,719
Speaker 2: Sky's bought TV three.

1694
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 10: For a buck.

1695
01:24:55,240 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 2: So two dollars and Welcometinuez. Two dollars buys you profound

1696
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: amounts of influence control in the New Zealand media landscape.

1697
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 2: Some of us sit here and make money. Others exchange

1698
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: hands for pocket change. It's turned away from.

1699
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Speaker 1: Night the Mike Hostal Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities

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Speaker 1: News togs Head been.

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited to hear that Giltrap. Giltrap are a

1702
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 2: big car dealership. If you watch any racing car driver

1703
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 2: on their helmet somewhere will be the word Giltrap group. Anyway,

1704
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 2: they had this thing and I started telling you about

1705
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 2: it several years ago. And it's the third year and

1706
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 2: our third edition of their Starship Supercar Show. It's a

1707
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 2: charity show raises money for the Starship Foundation, and it's

1708
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 2: they're putting it on in September. I'm just giving your

1709
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 2: heads up on this. They're putting it on September twentieth

1710
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 2: and twenty first, and it's the first weekend of the

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01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 2: school holidays. And the reason they've done that is smart

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01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 2: because it really is such a fantastic thing. It really

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01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: is profound. I've been both years and the cars they

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Speaker 2: put on for sh oh really are amazing, beyond amazing.

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Speaker 2: Not just I mean they've got all the all the

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Speaker 2: ones you think you'll see. Yes, the astons are there,

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Speaker 2: and the bent leads are there, and the lambows are there.

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01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: But the building itself, Giltrap's Buildings, beautiful, their headquarters, it's

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01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 2: over five levels. There are there are many many mini

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01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: many mini cars. So they raise money for the Starship Foundation.

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01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: In fact, all the money goes to the Starship Foundation.

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01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 2: So as of the twenty fourth of July, which today

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01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 2: being the twenty so in a couple of days time,

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01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 2: so let's call it Thursday, you can buy. Your tickets

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01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 2: are only twenty five bucks. So the point being because

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01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: it's in the score holidays, if you are out of Auckland,

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01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 2: I actually would recommend it in terms of if you're

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01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 2: outside of Auckland, it is worth the journey to come.

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01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 2: If you're a car nut or your kids are car nuts,

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01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 2: it is worth the journey to Travel, Supercar Show dot

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01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 2: co dot NZ, Supercar Show dot co dot INZ. The

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01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,679
Speaker 2: twovs cars. Last time I saw was a dB five

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01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 2: Aston Martin dB five just just just unbelievable, just restored

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01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 2: within an inch of its life, be worth millions the

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01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 2: cars literally you never see. The other one I saw

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01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 2: that I'd never seen in the flesh before or in

1737
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 2: the metal as they say, was a Lamborghini Miror, which

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01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,640
Speaker 2: was sort of the first of the truly great supercars

1739
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 2: at the time. And it's what you're reminded of is

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01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 2: New Zealand's love and passion for amazing cars and how

1741
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 2: most of these you didn't even know were here, but

1742
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: they come out for the show. So that's in September

1743
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: something to note down. And Supercar Show dot co dot

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01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: MZ tickets on sale in a couple of days time.

1745
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 2: It is well and truly worth it, mark my words.

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01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 2: I'll be back for a third year. Five Away from.

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01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: Nine Trending now with chemist whareuse great savings every day now?

1748
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden So Channel five is Channel five in America

1749
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 2: have done an interview with Hunter. The interview is three

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01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: hours long. They might be able to sell that for

1751
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 2: a dollar. Yeah, I know he had a bit of

1752
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 2: a pop at various people who treated as Dad poorly,

1753
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 2: including somebody called George Clooney.

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01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 21: Kim Kim Kim and everybody around him, I don't have

1755
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,600
Speaker 21: to be nice. And James Carville, who hasn't run a

1756
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 21: race in forty years, and David Axelrod, who had one

1757
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 21: success in his political life and that was Barack Obama.

1758
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 21: Who's Jake Tapper's adience Jake tappert my mom or something. Well,

1759
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 21: I don't know for real though, I don't even think

1760
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 21: it's your mom anymore, because by the numbers, what influence

1761
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,759
Speaker 21: does Jake Tapper have over anything? Here's the smallest audience

1762
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 21: on cable news.

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01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 2: Which is true actually because I was looking at the

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01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,560
Speaker 2: writings funnily enough the other day and see you and

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01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what c you need to do to

1766
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 2: get out of the hole. Errand and when I watch them,

1767
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: and I watch a bit of cee in, Caitlin Collins

1768
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: is my favorite. I think Anderson Cooper looks like he

1769
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: literally is about to die of boredom. I've never seen

1770
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 2: a guy run his own show and look so bored

1771
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: doing it in my life, but never those Kaitlin Collins

1772
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: is a is a name you want to watch and

1773
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,759
Speaker 2: as a genuine talent, but they just have no numbers

1774
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 2: when you look at the cable news numbers, they just

1775
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 2: have no audience at all. And I just can't work

1776
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,560
Speaker 2: out how they dig themselves out of that hole. My

1777
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 2: initial observation would be not to go down the track

1778
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 2: of Channel five and interview Hunter Biden for three hours.

1779
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure that's a ratings winner, But then again,

1780
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 2: what do I know well on that case, as far

1781
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 2: as ratings did, I'm back to you know who's more

1782
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 2: mud not to blow my own trumpet too loudly. Fortunately,

1783
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: we're coming to a fairly rapid conclusion for the day's show.

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01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 2: Back tomorrow morning, as always, Happy Days.

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