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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life Your

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Speaker 2: Today the MC names Behind the Scandals, Tama Poe Tarker

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Speaker 2: on funding for Mari seats and Pacific Rugby, Erica Stamford

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Speaker 2: on one twenty seven b and whether we have a

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold and America Murray Old's Ponies up from Sydney

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Speaker 2: Pasky Briday morning. We're into at seven past six. More

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Speaker 2: ageism I've got for you this morning. This time in education,

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Speaker 2: unions are quote concerned as more teachers work past retirement age.

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Speaker 2: This is, in part is the trouble with unions. Of course,

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Speaker 2: One they aren't that keen on work in the first place,

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Speaker 2: and two they're bogged down and old fashioned rules and

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Speaker 2: views of the world. What is retirement and how do

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Speaker 2: you know you passed it? They refer of course to

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Speaker 2: Super and this tired old business of thinking that when

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Speaker 2: Super kex and you must check out. Obviously the world

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Speaker 2: has changed, is changing, just not that quickly. In Union Land,

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Speaker 2: clearly at sixty four you're loving teaching. Apparently so somehow

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Speaker 2: chronological at sixty five that desire and love of pursuit

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Speaker 2: needs to be shold as you wander off collecting your

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Speaker 2: retirement income and presumably filling your days with bowls and walks.

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Speaker 2: Eight thousand A teaching at the age of sixty five

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Speaker 2: or over eight thousand, Now that's double what it used

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Speaker 2: to be ten years ago, But then a lot's different

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Speaker 2: to what it used to be ten years ago. Beyond

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Speaker 2: the numbers, as in sixty five, does anyone ask any

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Speaker 2: questions like are they doing it because they have to

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Speaker 2: as opposed to want to? Bit of a different syd

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Speaker 2: would have thought, most importantly for teaching, given the unions

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Speaker 2: insist on this mad cap business of time in the

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Speaker 2: classroom being the measure for income, are these oldies any good?

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Speaker 2: Could they be better, given their experience and institutional knowledge

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Speaker 2: than say the twenty one year old just into the

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Speaker 2: classroom and looking for all the world out of a

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Speaker 2: depth sex education form six Limwood High early eighties. We

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Speaker 2: were sixteen or seventeen year olds. The teacher might might

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Speaker 2: have been twenty. She looked like she wanted to die

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Speaker 2: as the diagrams of the un know Watts came out.

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Speaker 2: As you can tell see it in my mind forty

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Speaker 2: years later. New isn't always best, Young doesn't always trumpolder,

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Speaker 2: and passion and skill above all else is what should

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Speaker 2: drive presence in the workplace or classroom? Are you good?

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Speaker 2: Do you like what you do? Are you making a

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Speaker 2: difference of the answers yes? Then at what point would

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Speaker 2: you be remotely interested in age? Far less be concerned.

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Speaker 3: News of the world.

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Speaker 2: In ninety second, the remaining annoying question of the week,

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Speaker 2: as regards RUN, is just how obliterated is the nuclear program? Well,

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Speaker 2: Pete is your man for the job.

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Speaker 4: There's been fawning coverage of a preliminary assessment.

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Speaker 2: I've had a chance to read it.

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Speaker 4: Every outlet has breathlessly reported on a preliminary assessment from DIA.

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Speaker 2: He was backed up by a general.

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Speaker 5: A point that I want to make here. The Joint

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Speaker 5: Force does not do BDA by design. We don't grade

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Speaker 5: our own homework. The intelligence community does.

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Speaker 2: Watching at Home was the big guy who issued a review.

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Speaker 6: It was one of the greatest, most professional, and most

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Speaker 6: confirm news conferences I have ever seen. The fake news

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Speaker 6: should fire everyone involved in this witch hunt and apologize

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Speaker 6: to our great warriors.

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Speaker 2: Also watching, presumably from a bunker, was the old bloke

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Speaker 2: who runs around. He thinks they might just be a

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Speaker 2: bit too much of the old.

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Speaker 7: You know what, They failed to do anything significant. The

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Speaker 7: President of America greatly exaggerated what had happened.

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Speaker 2: It became clear that he needed this exaggeration. Meantime, in Britain,

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Speaker 2: Sakia has had to put Nata behind him because he's

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Speaker 2: got a domestic war on his hands. It's the enemy

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Speaker 2: within the chunks of his own party. You hate as well.

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Speaker 2: Fear reform.

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Speaker 8: The British people deserve protection and dignity when they're unable

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Speaker 8: to work, and support into work when they can. At

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Speaker 8: the moment, they are failed every single day by the

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Speaker 8: broken system created by the Conservatives, which achieves neither.

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Speaker 2: Fear warning if you're going to go with Govie shopping

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Speaker 2: next week. Britain has just launched a study into problems

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Speaker 2: of the pancreas.

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Speaker 9: They're not.

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Speaker 10: This is a medication in the same way that people

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't think That's how most people see it, and

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Speaker 2: that's the problem, isn't it Finally the new Bond film?

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Speaker 2: twenty forty nine in its carrier. Despite rumor's still no

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Speaker 2: word on the main part. Although just to reiterate once again,

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Speaker 2: it isn't me, so please stop asking. Here's the world

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Speaker 2: in nineteen. A couple of Trump fun facts for you.

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Speaker 2: This morning watched the Pound Trump is trashing the US dollar.

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Speaker 2: The pound hit over night one thirty seven, which is

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Speaker 2: its highest rates since October of twenty twenty one. It's

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Speaker 2: Trump organization, not surprisingly has removed a reference on their

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Speaker 2: website over the phone, the gold phone that was claimed

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Speaker 2: to be made in America, and everyone who knows anything

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Speaker 2: Wealth Andrew callaher good morning, very good morning. Week you're

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Speaker 2: transferring to the pound, speaking of the dollar. Part of

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Speaker 2: that dollar thing that I mentioned a moment ago is,

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Speaker 2: of course, because Crup will not shut up about the

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Speaker 2: Fed chair. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 11: And it's sort of come to the four in the

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Speaker 11: last twenty hours. But you've got this backdrop of the

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Speaker 11: Middle East, haven't your sort of bombs and ceasefires, and

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Speaker 11: so some of these key US domestic economic issues have

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Speaker 11: are key issues for the final market, for financial markets

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Speaker 11: to digest. And yes, the big one unfolding is this

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Speaker 11: issue of the new Federal Reserve chair. It's a critical appointment, Mike,

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Speaker 11: for interest rates and bond markets right around the world,

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Speaker 11: and that includes our own because all of these markets

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Speaker 11: are highly correlated. So we've seen what I was originally

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Speaker 11: going to describe as thinly disguised, but actually it's not

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Speaker 11: even disguised. Frustration of the US President Trump with current

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Speaker 11: Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, and bearing in mind Mike,

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Speaker 11: Jerome Powell was appointed by President Trump. This is his

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Speaker 11: pick back in twenty eighteen. Now his term finishes in

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Speaker 11: May twenty twenty six, that is eleven months away, and

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Speaker 11: we've seen very recently this well, it's fairly undignified sort

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Speaker 11: He's called amer a major loser, a total and complete moron.

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Speaker 11: He recently in the last couple of days questioned his

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Speaker 11: to the fore because Trump has suggested announcing or appointing

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Speaker 11: a successor as early as October. This is normally not

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Speaker 11: done until sort of three months before the incumbents term ends,

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Speaker 11: and some names have been put for I won't go

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Speaker 11: He's the current US Treasury Secretary. But Mike, it raises

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Speaker 11: two really important issues, and the first one is central

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Speaker 11: following the resignation of the alban Said governor or. But

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Speaker 11: the biggest central bank in the world, the FED, has

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Speaker 11: to be seen as having operational independence. And you heart

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Speaker 11: back to the seventies when inflation ran completely out of

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Speaker 11: that stage that President Nixon exerted pressure on the then

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Speaker 11: the early nineteen eighties, and that. Secondly, you've got this

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Speaker 11: So whoever is announced, they can start influencing market moves

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Speaker 11: months ahead of their actual belief actually being in the job,

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Speaker 11: which is what Trump wants. So the market just starts

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Speaker 11: speculating that new candidate will be more susceptible to pressure

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Speaker 2: Rates will immediately go low.

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Speaker 11: It you're talking about the dollar, that's actually one of

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Speaker 11: the that's one of the outcomes of that. So look,

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Speaker 11: the economic background is that US could probably support further

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Speaker 11: you've still got the broader committee. But Mike, the story

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Speaker 2: Will indeed, I also readly interestingly enough, there's another people

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Speaker 11: Yeah, totally, yeah, absolutely, so you know he's in the

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Speaker 11: vein of well, what should they be doing? Your big

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Speaker 11: But they saw a really sharp deceleration consumer spending and

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Speaker 11: deficit wider than expected, during goods orders were strong, jobless

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Speaker 11: the US economy is still quite resilient. That's what Powell

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Speaker 11: is looking at. But I think now or the market's

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Speaker 11: certainly saying you'll get a rate cut, but it won't

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Speaker 2: Give me some numbers.

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Speaker 2: winning six forty.

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Speaker 15: Five international correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

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Speaker 15: Mind for New Zealand business, tied with Genial Morning.

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Speaker 9: What do you Mike.

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Speaker 2: So we've had the press. We're going to get the

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Speaker 2: briefing on the Hill today.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, this will be a classified briefing, and it's taken

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Speaker 16: a while for them to get this underway. Meantime, President

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Speaker 16: Trump is back at the White House trying to tamp

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Speaker 16: down all those questions about the scope of damage from

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Speaker 16: their strikes. Your social media post, Trump says nothing was

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Speaker 16: taken out of Fodoh Underground and Richmond location prior to

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Speaker 16: the US air attack. He says that cars and small

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Speaker 16: trucks seen there were those of concrete workers trying to

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Speaker 16: cover the top of the shafts. Of course, there were

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Speaker 16: days of anti patient worth there about a potential American strike,

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Speaker 16: even as Trump was putting out that suggested that nothing

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Speaker 16: would happen for two weeks. Maybe, the President's press person,

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Speaker 16: Karen and Levitt said a short time ago, the United.

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Speaker 17: States and our intelligence agencies and Director Ratcliffe and the

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Speaker 17: President's entire national security team, we're obviously watching these sites

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Speaker 17: very closely in the weeks and the days leading up

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Speaker 17: to the attack.

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Speaker 16: Makes sense, and Trump himself has doubled down on this point.

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Speaker 3: We've collected additional intelligence.

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Speaker 9: We've also spoken to people have.

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Speaker 3: Seen the site and the site is obliterated.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, his new favorite word.

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Speaker 16: The head of the IAEA, the International Atomic Energy Agency,

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Speaker 16: Raphael Grossi, is saying that while none of their inspectors

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Speaker 16: have had access to the Iranian site since the tanks,

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Speaker 16: he believes these centrifuges at Podo are no longer operational.

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Speaker 16: He says it is too much to assert that Around's

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Speaker 16: nuclear program has been quote unquote wiped out, but he

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Speaker 16: believes it has suffered enormous damage. Senator Richard Blumenthal says

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Speaker 16: he wants to know more.

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Speaker 2: I want to know how we set back in days

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Speaker 2: or months or years.

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Speaker 16: So as you say, make top polleys are getting a

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Speaker 16: classified briefing about now that briefing had been delayed. Even

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Speaker 16: some top national security lawmakers weren't in the loop before

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Speaker 16: the US attack. All that has added to the questioning

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Speaker 16: Defense Secrety Pete Heiggseth gave a press conference earlier today

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Speaker 16: where he and the head of the Joint Chiefs General

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Speaker 16: Dan Kine, gave no new assessments of the damage Iran

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Speaker 16: has suffered. Haig Seth did try to make some political points.

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Speaker 16: Seems to be that he sees that as his job

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Speaker 16: attacking some in the medium.

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Speaker 4: Whether it's fake news, CNN, MSNBC or The New York Times.

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Speaker 4: There's been fawning coverage of a preliminary assessment.

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Speaker 9: I've had a chance to read it.

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Speaker 4: Every outlet has breathlessly reported on a preliminary assessment because

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Speaker 4: you want him not to be successful, so bad.

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Speaker 16: Those METIA outlets have reported in the preliminary assessment which

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Speaker 16: said Iran's program may not have been completely destroyed. That

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Speaker 16: was described as an initial view, but it left the

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Speaker 16: White House, shall we say angry? Independent Senator Angus King

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Speaker 16: says he is still not satisfied that we have the

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Speaker 16: full accounting.

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Speaker 18: There's some indication they may have moved some of that uranium,

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Speaker 18: and as you may know, they were only weeks away

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Speaker 18: from enough facile material to make a rudimentary bomb.

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Speaker 16: Meantime, Iran Slida Iatol Ali Hamoni has resurfaced in a

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Speaker 16: pre recorded statement claiming an Iranian victory, saying Iran will

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Speaker 16: never surrender.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how this plays, Okay. I've been watching

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Speaker 2: the video this morning. It looked dramatic had it gone Vegas.

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Speaker 16: I think you're right, it looked pretty dramatic.

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Speaker 9: Didn't it.

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Speaker 16: Some passengers call it tents, others might call it terrifying.

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Speaker 16: Yet one hundred and fifty nine people on board this airbus,

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Speaker 16: A three twenty one that took off from Las Vegas

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Speaker 16: Airport bound for Charlotte and North Carolina, and when there

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Speaker 16: was allowed, bang like a gunshot, says one of those

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Speaker 16: on board, they witnessed flashes of light coming from one

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Speaker 16: of the engines. As it was sparking. The crew said

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Speaker 16: they would turn around and land back in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 16: Hadn't gone all that far. People in the ground were

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Speaker 16: fearing the worst as they saw this jet flying low.

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Speaker 16: As he was thinking, oh my.

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Speaker 10: Gosh, I'm about to lect witness a plane crash.

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Speaker 2: On pot the air mess.

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Speaker 19: The attitude was, I could actually see a fireball coming

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Speaker 19: out of the backside of the raid engine. And so

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Speaker 19: every time we heard these pops could feel it in

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Speaker 19: your chest.

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Speaker 2: When they got down, he says, everyone was crying.

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Speaker 16: One aviation expert says it looks to him like, as

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Speaker 16: he describes it, a classic engine compressor stall. His advice

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Speaker 16: to him and anyone who ever goes through this, Mike,

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Speaker 16: don't panic.

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Speaker 2: Sure, no worries, all right, might see you next week,

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold state, so let me come back to Mandamie

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Speaker 2: in New York. In a moment ten to seven, the.

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Speaker 3: Mic asking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate news Talks.

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Speaker 2: The'd be this is some Shane Jones has got at

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Speaker 2: my national sched to upset any one. Shane says it

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Speaker 2: how it is, So that's the headline. The headline is giants.

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Speaker 2: Jones is a headline. Goldsmith slightly more considered bigger picture

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Speaker 2: but railed politic and all of that. So Mandani, who's

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Speaker 2: the Democrat who's won the Democratic primary, will most likely

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Speaker 2: become the mayor of New York. The panic is starting

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Speaker 2: to set in already. Lawrence Summers, who's the former Treasury

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Speaker 2: secretary president of Harvard University, I am profoundly alarmed about

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Speaker 2: the future of the Democratic National Committee and the country

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Speaker 2: by yesterday's anointment of a candidate who failed to disavow

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Speaker 2: to globalize the Interfarder slogan and advocated trotsky Art economic policies.

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Speaker 2: Anything associated on the Sheer market yesterday with property in

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Speaker 2: New York fell because he's into rent control and taxing everything,

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Speaker 2: and because he taxes everyone before they leave New York,

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Speaker 2: which they will. He then passes that on to make

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Speaker 2: everything else free for poor people. They're desperate for Kathy Hokel,

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Speaker 2: who's the state governor, to do something about it. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what she's supposed to do about it. Katherine Wilde,

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Speaker 2: who's part of the Partnership for New York City, something

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Speaker 2: that was started by David Rockefeller in the seventies. Terror

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Speaker 2: is the feeling. Best line was from somebody who goes

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Speaker 2: New York is committing suicide by mayor. So watch this space.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 3: Are the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business favor take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: The big question, the reason I raise it is can

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Speaker 2: you destroy one of the great cities of the world

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Speaker 2: through the mayor's job. You can do it partially, and

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Speaker 2: we've seen it in London and you can certainly see

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Speaker 2: it in San Francisco. Rite good news Friday. Here we

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Speaker 2: go New Zealand. Are The Global Work Life Balance Index

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Speaker 2: looks at sixty different countries, marks them out of one

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Speaker 2: hundred on a range of things public happiness, safety, statutory leave.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is all crap, obviously, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: how you measure public happiness, minimum wage, LGBTQ plus inclusivity,

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Speaker 2: average working hours. They don't take into account economic output

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Speaker 2: or productivity, hence making it the.

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Speaker 9: Joke it is.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, let's have fun. We win the big prize.

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Speaker 2: We have the best work life balance according to the

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Speaker 2: Global Work Life Balance Index in the world. We've scored

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Speaker 2: eighty six point eight seven, which is in fact a

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Speaker 2: six point increase compared with our win last year. We

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Speaker 2: won it last year and we're six points better than

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Speaker 2: we will last year. We are happier. All you miserable

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Speaker 2: sods telling me the country is no good and you're

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Speaker 2: moving to Australia. What's the matter with you? Minimum wage?

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Speaker 2: Listen up, Ginny Anderson. I don't think they're feeling it.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe it. Our minimum wage is the second

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Speaker 2: highest of the sixty countries, behind only Australia, second eyes

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Speaker 2: minimum wage of sixty countries. On average, we work thirty

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Speaker 2: three hours a week and then manage your problem. Basically,

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Speaker 2: what can.

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Speaker 9: I tell you?

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Speaker 2: The US fifty ninth, Nigeria sixtieth. Now this might surprise you,

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Speaker 2: Singapore twenty fifth, but it's ex spinning. Very safe, but

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Speaker 2: very expenny are France sixteenth. They don't hardly work at all.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought that maybe that's sort of life

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Speaker 2: work balance. Maybe they're so backward it's still it doesn't count.

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Speaker 2: So ten through one should we do it? Number ten

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Speaker 2: Findland ha har beat the Scandinavians for once. Don't see

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Speaker 2: that often nine, Spain eight, Australia seven, Canada six to

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Speaker 2: den Mark five, Norway beat all the Scandinavians for Germany

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Speaker 2: three Belgium. They're just bored witless because they live in

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Speaker 2: Belgium to Ireland, and we are the best at work

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Speaker 2: life balance in the world. Take it forward. Of this

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Speaker 2: t I'm a potark and now he's got some troubles.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna have a difficult weekend if this doesn't go well.

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Speaker 2: This money from feign at Aura. Why isn't he on

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Speaker 2: top of this? Hey, why isn't he on top of this?

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Speaker 2: He's with us After the news the.

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Speaker 1: Only report you need to start your day on my

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Speaker 1: casting breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate differently.

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Speaker 3: Since nineteen seventy three, news togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Falling seven minutes past seven. So with the death of

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Speaker 2: Taka Taitash Kemp we faced a by election. Of course,

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Speaker 2: given she was an electorate MP, you will remember it

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Speaker 2: was a tight and still contentious fight that she won

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Speaker 2: up for a recount by forty two votes over Labour's

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Speaker 2: Penny Hena ray A Tiger University Lord Professor Andrew Geedis

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Speaker 2: is back with it. Andrew, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, good morning Mite.

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Speaker 2: The mechanics of the Parliament as a result of an

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Speaker 2: electric versus a list MP dying, does it change it

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Speaker 2: all between now in the vote?

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Speaker 21: No?

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Speaker 20: Well, I mean it means it's one less MP until

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Speaker 20: the by election is held, so we're down to one

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Speaker 20: twenty two MP's instead of one twenty three. But that's

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Speaker 20: really the only change in terms of the way parliament

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Speaker 20: will work.

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Speaker 2: And theoretical question I know. But nevertheless, if the electorate

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Speaker 2: had been a government electorate and they needed the vote,

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Speaker 2: what would happen.

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Speaker 20: This is one of the really interesting questions with our

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Speaker 20: MNP system. What it would mean is you would have

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Speaker 20: had a tied parliament that the government would have been

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Speaker 20: able to limp on, but it wouldn't have had a

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Speaker 20: majority until the by election, and of course if it

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Speaker 20: lost the by election and that then changed the majority

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Speaker 20: in parliament, you would have a government that would no

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Speaker 20: longer be able to govern exactly.

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Speaker 2: So in this case, none of that happens. But what

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Speaker 2: we do have is an ongoing investigation into a situation.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that'll drive interest in the by election

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Speaker 2: as a by election?

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Speaker 20: I think the by election itself is going to generate

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Speaker 20: the interest. Probably going to see a fairly strong fight

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Speaker 20: between Labor and to Patti Mari over this, especially if

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Speaker 20: Penne Huner does stand for Labor. He's got such a

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Speaker 20: high profile two clashing ideas about how Maridom should go forward,

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Speaker 20: you know, whether within Labor and kind of within the

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Speaker 20: system or a direct challenge to the system through to

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Speaker 20: Patti Mari. The only interesting thing with that being held

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Speaker 20: in Auckland is, of course we've got the local elections

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Speaker 20: coming up in October, so these two things are going

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Speaker 20: to run into each other a week bit, so you're

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Speaker 20: going to see Aucklanders with a lot of election you're

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Speaker 20: in gooing on exactly.

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Speaker 2: Having said all of that, does the controversial nature and

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Speaker 2: the forty two votes play in and what happens if

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Speaker 2: the report, which is the Serious Fraud Office comes back

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Speaker 2: in the ensuing period with something dramatic.

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Speaker 20: Well, of course, you know with political you never quite

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Speaker 20: know what's going to happen. But yeah, certainly if the

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Speaker 20: Serious Thought Office did start to bring charges against people,

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Speaker 20: especially anyone involved into Patty Mari, that will enter into

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Speaker 20: the electoral calculus. We do know the fact that it

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Speaker 20: was only forty two volts means that you know it's

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Speaker 20: going to be a very type run thing. The other

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Speaker 20: complicating factor or a different factor this time, of course,

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Speaker 20: is going to be the sympathy factor. I suspect Party

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Speaker 20: Mari will run very strongly in a kind of legacy argument.

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Speaker 20: You know, let's honor the CDMP name by you know,

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Speaker 20: we're placing her with a Party Mari person. So all

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Speaker 20: of those things go into the politic in of it all.

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Speaker 2: Great inside, Andrew, you have a good week. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: it as always, Andrew get as Attager University law professor

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Speaker 2: Tim and it's past seven asking by FUNA or not

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Speaker 2: having a good week. Neither seemingly is the taxpayer. Are

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Speaker 2: they electioneering with this half hour raid asking people to

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Speaker 2: sign up for the Murray role? And why is money

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Speaker 2: for Mawana pacifica the rugby team part of their mandate allegedly.

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Speaker 2: Minister for Marie Development time of Potuker is with us.

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Speaker 2: Morning to you.

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Speaker 10: Thanks sure, Mike.

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Speaker 2: How you doing much very well? Indeed, on a scale

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Speaker 2: of one to ten of alarmism, how alarmed are you?

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Speaker 10: I'm seriously concerned. And it's not about Final Order. It's

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Speaker 10: about the use of public money. Final Order is actually

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Speaker 10: going through a changeover transition and to Final Order two

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Speaker 10: point zero four new commission agencies and are they going

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Speaker 10: to go out and do the business? But the two incumbents,

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Speaker 10: two of the three, there's some issues and we need

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Speaker 10: to find out what's going on.

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Speaker 2: What are you more alarmed about the Maori roll or

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Speaker 2: Malana PACIFICA Well.

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Speaker 10: Just a bit of uncertainty around the use of public money.

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Speaker 10: So we just want to make sure that they've been

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Speaker 10: used for proper purpose. I'm not jumping to any conclusions,

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Speaker 10: but I have us Penny Corky look into it, get

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Speaker 10: an explanation and report back a set by today.

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Speaker 2: Why well, good, Why aren't you jumping to conclusions? Because

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Speaker 2: I have, and I think most of the people listening

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Speaker 2: to this have, and I cannot for the life of

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Speaker 2: me unless you can offer me some sort of explanation,

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Speaker 2: see why public money should be supporting a professional rugby team.

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Speaker 10: Well, public money has been used to support a whole

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Speaker 10: range of sporting and recreational initiatives over there, Mike might say,

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Speaker 10: for example, the Rugby World Cup, and.

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Speaker 2: This is supposed to be uplifting the pacific of the

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Speaker 2: Mari community in some way.

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Speaker 10: Well, we don't know exactly what the facts are around

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Speaker 10: the use of public moneys. That's why I've asked to

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Speaker 10: Puny quickly look into it, give an explanation, report back,

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Speaker 10: and now the I think liaising with the Office of

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Speaker 10: the Order to General to make sure that the lines

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Speaker 10: of inquiry appropriate.

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Speaker 2: Are you not personally responsible for this? You hand out

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Speaker 2: the money to an agency who then hands it out

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Speaker 2: to somebody else. Is nobody paying attention to where that

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Speaker 2: money goes and how it's spent.

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Speaker 10: I am the Minister responsible for finer Order and that's

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Speaker 10: why I'm taking action to get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 10: And then obviously we've put back through to my my

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Speaker 10: brank up hitter Christopher Laxm.

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Speaker 2: Having said that the broader issue race based funding. You

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Speaker 2: guys said the stops, how come it still going?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think that's a little bit adjacent to the

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Speaker 10: final order cope uper. The final orders actually for everyone

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Speaker 10: and it helps deliver public services better than the government

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Speaker 10: can do locally. Centers are locally led in Fino center.

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Speaker 10: Now that can work in a variety of ways. But

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Speaker 10: Final Order is not just for Mary like it's for

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Speaker 10: everyone who needs total in that way.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand what you just said. What's t I

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Speaker 2: don't know you literally speaking the language I don't speak Tarner,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sorry.

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Speaker 10: I'll give you an explanation, total or support and you know,

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Speaker 10: and I know that sometimes government delivery of government services

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Speaker 10: doesn't work well. Fire Order in many respects has worked

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Speaker 10: very well to help move Farno into a better place.

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Speaker 2: Right Well, when you say Farner, is it Mari or

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Speaker 2: is it anybody? Because what happened to the ministry any

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Speaker 2: dovetailing with final Aura.

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Speaker 10: Anyone can access far Order And it's not just through

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Speaker 10: the finer order appropriation that funding is given for these

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Speaker 10: types of types of activities and types of services.

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Speaker 2: Or in any way shape or formance race based funding.

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Speaker 10: No, it's a different way of delivering public services and

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Speaker 10: actually sometimes it's a better way. As you know, government

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Speaker 10: has not necessarily delivered public services effectively, and so fireer

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Speaker 10: order is a different way of delivering public services.

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Speaker 2: Okay, When Mara Pekarakawa take says Mari issues don't come

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Speaker 2: to the fore in major political parties, is she correct?

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Speaker 10: No? I don't think so.

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Speaker 9: You look at all the words.

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Speaker 2: What you see and that's why she's funding Tarma EATI

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Speaker 2: and ad agencies the tune of hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 2: dollars to make a half hour AD. How do you

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Speaker 2: justify that?

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Speaker 10: Well, I disagree with metapeka O color tape. For example,

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Speaker 10: Minister golds Mutht doing a huge amount of money to

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Speaker 10: settle treat He's amount of money to settle treaty claims,

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Speaker 10: Erica Stamford doing huge amount of money to support Kuta

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Speaker 10: Koppappa in immersion schools. There's a lot of things that

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Speaker 10: the government is doing to ensure that we not only

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Speaker 10: deal with some of the socio and economic challenges that

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Speaker 10: are facing mighty, but also with the outstanding historic treaty claims.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but when she says something like that, to justify

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Speaker 2: what she's done with our money, you need to do

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Speaker 2: more than disagree with it, don't you. You need to

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Speaker 2: do something about it because she's wasting our money.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think he's on to pay text Mike, and

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Speaker 10: that's why I've been very fit. And what's funny? Corkdy

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Speaker 10: to explain to me what is happening? BALI aising with

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Speaker 10: the Office of the Order to General now, and I

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Speaker 10: expect an explanation, a sip.

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Speaker 2: If they don't give you an acceptable explanation, what are

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Speaker 2: you going to do?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 10: Well, I expect them to give me an explanation, and

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Speaker 10: if that explanation is not consistent with our expectations, then

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Speaker 10: we'll take them matter further. But we'll not be yet.

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Speaker 10: We have to get the facts and find out what's

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Speaker 10: going on.

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Speaker 2: When you're going to come back on this program and explain.

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Speaker 10: It, well, well, I expect to get a report today,

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Speaker 10: but as you know, there are some other things going

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Speaker 10: on in the space with the parts of Malory leadership,

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Speaker 10: particularly with the recent passing of Titas Camp. So I

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Speaker 10: expected today and that's what I've asked for.

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Speaker 2: What's I got to do with the Mary party? You

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Speaker 2: lost me there?

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Speaker 9: This is fun?

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Speaker 2: At what's fun? I don't understand what you just said.

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Speaker 10: Well, the people that are involved with that particular ad

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Speaker 10: have also got an overlay with the party, Marty, you

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Speaker 10: and I both know that.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, So ROKOA takes a former party member? Yes,

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Speaker 2: and isn't that a conflict of interest in and of itself.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's a matter that has to be explained to

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Speaker 10: me as well.

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Speaker 2: But you knew that going in. Why wasn't explained previously?

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Speaker 2: Why does it take a problem like this for someone

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Speaker 2: to come back to you and explain. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: know who she is and where she's from and what

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Speaker 2: she thinks.

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Speaker 10: Well, I thank you and I both know Mike that

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Speaker 10: the Public Services Commissioners looking at a whole range of

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Speaker 10: matters to do with confidentiality and conflicence of interest, and

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Speaker 10: they're reporting back to their minister on a on a

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Speaker 10: real basis in relation to these a whole range of

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Speaker 10: other matters.

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Speaker 2: Are you on top of your job?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well come back to me next week and we'll

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Speaker 2: talk some more, hopefully. Tama Potarker, who is the Minister

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Speaker 2: of Marie Development sixteen past.

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Speaker 2: That'd be yeah, Mike, if the money is for anyone,

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Speaker 2: then why doesn't have any dual not etcetera. That's some

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Speaker 2: I don't know that Farna Aura is actually for everybody

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Speaker 2: as he made claim, so I'll look at it over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. Talma Potaker seems totally out of his depth, Mike,

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Speaker 2: But then the balance, I don't think you were fair

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Speaker 2: with Tama just then, Mike. He's acted quickly Fittenwal has

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Speaker 2: he The point is asking for a report is a

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Speaker 2: political response to I would argue something you should have

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Speaker 2: been on top of in the first place, and this

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Speaker 2: twice removed thing. I give them money, who then give

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Speaker 2: the money to somebody else is still ultimately your responsible

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Speaker 2: as the minister on our behalf. And I can't see

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Speaker 2: a single logical, sensible reason that promoting the Mari role

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Speaker 2: is not electioneering, which they're not allowed to do. And

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Speaker 2: I can't see a single logical reason why supporting professional

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Speaker 2: rugby and Moana pacifica through an agency that has now

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Speaker 2: lost the contract and a team potentially goes bust because

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Speaker 2: of it, and money, by the way, is already written off.

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Speaker 2: That was the other part of the story that wasn't

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Speaker 2: widely covered yesterday. Money's already written If they need to

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Speaker 2: pay it back and they haven't paid it back and

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Speaker 2: that's been written off. So you and I paid for

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Speaker 2: that experiment, and what what has that got to do

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Speaker 2: with uplifting the community in which they are supposed to support. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: we'll come but there will be more on this next week.

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Speaker 2: Mark my words will come back and mark the week

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Speaker 2: best far now Aura and Tama Eati and Moana Pacificato.

871
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: Central government yet again missing the politically triggering stuff. They

872
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 2: promised to address Nicolaella's.

873
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 3: For basic things.

874
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: Mit, writing letters isn't good governance, and after a while

875
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: a threat through letter or not is seen for what

876
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: it is. Peter Burling seven. We've wes him well, may

877
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: come back to bite them, of course too. David Seymour seven,

878
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 2: as acting Prime Minister in the House and in media.

879
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: A very solid, considered week. I reckon with a good

880
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 2: wit to go with it. Oil eight. What a joke

881
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: that was? Oh the price of a disaster until it wasn't.

882
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: Dunedin seven, like Hamilton last week, International travelers back, Melu

883
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: labar anyone Golden visa is eight. Now that is practical thinking,

884
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: making sensible difference. One hundred and eighty nine applications, eight

885
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars worth of business. Let's go New Zealand.

886
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: Shane Jones sex thankspayer should not be paying for such madness.

887
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: He loves a headline. But the NAPOOI stuff, I mean

888
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: he's right, He's on the right note there. Jeff Bezos six.

889
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: If you ever want an example of sneering, losory, jealousy

890
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: and pointlessness, look at Venice and the tragics and they're

891
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: whining at the moment wealth and the pension too. Wat

892
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: Bum note of the week targeting those who actually worked

893
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: hard to save to help and retirement should never be

894
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: used as a punishment. And the retirement commissioner might like

895
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: to ask yourself whether she understands her job. School holiday

896
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: seven oh good luck at the airport seven hundred and

897
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: forty five thousand non in New Zealand alone these next

898
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, and that is the week copies on

899
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: the website and due to the long weekend, this was

900
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: twenty percent worse than last week's. Like I work for

901
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: Pacific Futures, Varna or a provider, our contract states how

902
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: farner our services and dollars is only for indigenous specifica

903
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: communities in New Zealand. Fair point. But that doesn't mean

904
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: Tama was wrong in the sense that yes, your contract

905
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: is specific to your area, doesn't mean money's went elsewhere.

906
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: That wasn't related to the Pacific or Marray community. But

907
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: we are our research department is dispatching over the weekend

908
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: and they're going to do the sixth then the seventh day.

909
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: That's not going to help productivity, it's not going to

910
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: help the work life balance. But I'll tell you what

911
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: it is going to do. It's going to provide us

912
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: with a little bit of evidence. We might well be

913
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: presenting to the Prime Minister who's probably still suffering with

914
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: jet lag and will be regretting if a coming into

915
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: the studio on Monday. We'll see how that goes for us. Now, meantime,

916
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: one two seven or is it one seven two? I'm

917
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: getting my numbers confused. It's one two seven, it's one

918
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: two seven b it's education. Yes, folks, all the thousands

919
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: of people have emailed me this week telling me that

920
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: the end of the world is coming. This is all

921
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: race based. The wocust minister in the world of the

922
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: Education Minister, Erica Stamford is entrenching the Treaty in education.

923
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: Is it true?

924
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: She's next?

925
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: New Zealand's Voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

926
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: breakfast with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News togs

927
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: head by.

928
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: Three minutes away from A two and KD after eight

929
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 2: and when tour has just announced she is stepping down

930
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: and seeking a replacement. Editor in chief, one of the

931
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: most famous names in the world of fashion. Ever, very

932
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: very good document documentary on Disney on Clogue in the

933
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: history of so am and who are just announcing that

934
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: right back home. Let's let's dip in, dip our toe

935
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: into one two seven b gaate. The interweb is a

936
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 2: wathed currently with people writing to meet telling me Erica

937
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: Stamford is the wokest minister in the government and under

938
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: the cover of Dartan she is snuck into legislation currently

939
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: before select Committee, a committee to the commitment to the

940
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: Treaty that entrenches it in a way we should all

941
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: be alarmed about. And Erica Stamford is of course the

942
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: Ministry of Education and is with us. Good morning, Good morning, Mike,

943
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: how im? I'm well indeed, you say, what have you

944
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: seen these emails? By the way, and this has become

945
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: a thing this week.

946
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 22: Well, of course I have, Mike. I mean, this is

947
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 22: what happens when you get a bunch of people who

948
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 22: get all whipped up with hatred and frothing at the

949
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 22: mouth and spouting complete and utter garbage lies. Guess what

950
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 22: happens to politicians, you know, I get sent emails and

951
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 22: messages and all sorts of things telling me how what

952
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 22: an awful person I am, but all based on complete

953
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 22: and utter rubbish, complete lies. There is not a single

954
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 22: thing I've said that has got an ounce of truth to.

955
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: It represents the public on their behalf right. I represents

956
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: one of the boldest attempts yet to entrench co governance

957
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: and identity politics in the CLOM true or not.

958
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 22: No is trio muri being made compulsory in the classroom.

959
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 22: No is co governance being entrenched in the education system.

960
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: No.

961
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 22: Did I put a treaty waiting a clause in section

962
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 22: one two seven. No, none of those things are correct

963
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 22: at all. There was an existing clause, and when we

964
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 22: went through the process there were some legitimate questions raised

965
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 22: about whether or not there should be a treaty clause

966
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 22: for boards of trustees, and, as it is their job,

967
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 22: legitimate questions and I agree they are legitimate questions. And

968
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 22: so now this whole piece of work has been included

969
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 22: in the work that Paul Goldsmith is doing with his

970
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 22: review of treaty clauses, not only in the Education Act,

971
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 22: but in lots of pieces of legislation. So they're all

972
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 22: up in arms about absolutely nothing.

973
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: Right, let me read you this section one two seven

974
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: gives effect to relevant student rights set out in the ZAC.

975
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: The New Zealand Bill of Right Tech Nineteen ninety and

976
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: Human Rights Tech nineteen ninety three. When students are made

977
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: to sing Mari prayers, being made to sing Kurrike's karake

978
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: gives no consideration of the person's own culture or religion,

979
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: massively offensive. Why is this forced on students? That violates

980
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: their Section thirteen right to freedom of thought, conscience, religion,

981
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 2: and belief, including the right to adopt and hold opinions

982
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: without reference. Is any of that true?

983
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 22: Schools may well be doing that, And that's why I've

984
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 22: said it's a very legitimate question as to whether or

985
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 22: not there should be a treaty clause in what boards

986
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 22: have to do in their obligations. But by the way,

987
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 22: these treaty clauses are throughout the Education Act. You take

988
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 22: it out of two seven, fine, and it's a legitimate

989
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 22: question as to whether or not it should be there.

990
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 22: They exist all over the place. You take it out

991
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 22: of there, it exists somewhere else. That's why we need

992
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 22: to have a proper, thorough review of all of these clauses,

993
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 22: where they sit, what is the purpose, and what are

994
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 22: they leading to. Now You've also got to remember schools

995
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 22: are independent agencies. They have all like little mini crown entities.

996
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 22: They make their own decisions about what they do. Does

997
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 22: section one two seven have any bearing on that? Maybe

998
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 22: maybe not. As I say, legitimate question, and we're going

999
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 22: to look at it. We are currently looking at.

1000
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: It, right, but in looking at it with a view

1001
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: to do what.

1002
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 22: Well, exactly what you've just said. There are legitimate questions

1003
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 22: around whether or not a board should be involved in

1004
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 22: deciding whether or not my totung Amari and Tao Maari

1005
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 22: and TiO marii should be included in the curriculum. Those

1006
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 22: are legitimate questions that should be answered. But it's not

1007
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 22: only in that section. It's in section four, section six,

1008
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 22: section thirty two. Like I could name you a dozen

1009
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 22: clauses that it's currently in.

1010
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the one seven I mean, to the extent

1011
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 2: the people who write and have whipped this up, it

1012
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: is correct to say it is in there, and therefore

1013
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: the outworking of that means that some of the stuff

1014
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: that they're talking about does, in fact and can happen.

1015
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 2: Therefore they are correct.

1016
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 22: Well, hold on a minute, it likely would probably happen

1017
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 22: at those schools regardless of section one two seven. The

1018
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 22: more important thing is, yes, it's there. I didn't put

1019
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 22: it there like that, claiming it's been there for a

1020
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 22: very long time. Should it be looked at? Are there

1021
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 22: legitimate questions? Yes, which is why we're looking at it.

1022
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 22: But like I say, it's in many other places, and

1023
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 22: schools will use those other places to legitimize their use

1024
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 22: of cut of care if they should wish to. So

1025
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 22: it needs a proper, thorough, careful look at to work

1026
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 22: out what are the what is the purpose of the

1027
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 22: treaty in education? Does it have a place, where should

1028
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 22: it sit? Who has responsibility for it? Not just chest

1029
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 22: thumping about one little part in section one two seven

1030
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 22: to make ourselves all feel good when actually it won't

1031
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 22: make a blind bit of difference. When what we should

1032
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 22: be worried about is student outcomes, which.

1033
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: Is yeah, but Erica, this is where we get into

1034
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: the difficult part. I think this is probably in its

1035
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 2: own way misguided or not. What drives this, and what

1036
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: drives it is we want some attendance, and we want

1037
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: some past marks, and we want some kids getting graduating

1038
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: with actual qualifications, when what we appear to be doing

1039
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: is spending a tremendous amount of time down this particular

1040
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: rabbit hole on schools who fixate on aspects of life

1041
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: that many would argue are not productible or conducive to

1042
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 2: a better tomorrow in a brighter future.

1043
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 22: Well that's what I'm focused on, a better tomorrow, a

1044
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 22: brighter future. With our massive reform program and our day

1045
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 22: of reading and writing a Math's a complete overhaul of

1046
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 22: the curriculum to make it knowledge rich year by year,

1047
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 22: internationally comparable training, tens of thousands of teachers, and structured literacy,

1048
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 22: structured maths sending out eight hundred and thirty thousand maths

1049
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 22: books this year. We are up to our eyeballs and

1050
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 22: making sure that kids who turn up to school getting

1051
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 22: the very best education. This is a sideshow. All the

1052
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 22: work I've been doing is to make sure that kids

1053
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 22: are achieving at school and they're turning up to school.

1054
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 22: That's the important thing. All this Hobson's Pledge stuff is

1055
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 22: a bunch of people yelling at the sky and frothing

1056
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 22: at the mouth with hatred, where it's actually not going

1057
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 22: to make a blind bit of difference to student outcomes.

1058
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 22: Because the work that I'm doing, that's the stuff that matters.

1059
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 22: Structured literacy, structured maths with knowledge rich curriculum. That's the

1060
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 22: stuff that matters.

1061
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: There are too much Mari in schools.

1062
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 22: Depends which school you go to, Mike, If you're a

1063
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 22: school on the East Coast with ninety percent Mary students

1064
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 22: and they want to speak today as part of their curriculum,

1065
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 22: that's very different than another school who might have a

1066
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 22: couple of Marie students who wants to be able to

1067
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 22: teach their children to say everyday words in Mari so

1068
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 22: that you can live your life and understand words like

1069
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 22: KaiA and muana and faro and stuff and how to

1070
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 22: pronounce them correctly. It depends. I mean, would you say

1071
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 22: to a school in Auckland with two Marty students compared

1072
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 22: to a school in the East Coast with eighty percent

1073
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 22: Marty students, you must all do the same, of course

1074
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 22: not probably not right.

1075
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: But I can tell you the risk of going down

1076
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: a rabbit hole again. I know a commerce exam that

1077
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: was held the other day at University that commerce that

1078
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: asked a Mari question. It's got nothing to do with commerce,

1079
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: but there's a leaning, there's a bent. There's no vert

1080
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: practice towards mardom or the moraification of New Zealand and education,

1081
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: whether seems applicable or obvious or not.

1082
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 22: It's everywhere, Mike. You go on a bus at the

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Speaker 22: moment and the thing you see signs in today, Amada.

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Speaker 22: You go to a supermarket in your will the other

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Speaker 22: day and the signs are bilingual signs. It's happening everywhere.

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Speaker 22: So it's not blame the education not.

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Speaker 2: Blaming the education system, but there is a frissons in

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Speaker 2: this country as a result, and you give very good

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Speaker 2: examples as I And a lot of that costs money,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of that cost money that we're spending.

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Speaker 2: And it's a it's a thing. It's become, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's the thing of the day, and a lot of

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Speaker 2: people are questioning whether we've gone too far.

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Speaker 22: I don't know about that. The thing of the day

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Speaker 22: is reading, writing, and maths in our brand new curriculum.

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Speaker 22: You go to any school right now what I want

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Speaker 22: them to be focused on and what they are and

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Speaker 22: it's a lot. I've asked them to implement two new

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Speaker 22: curricula in one year, and I know it's a huge amount.

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Speaker 22: Those teachers right now are unpacking a massively knowledge rich

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Speaker 22: English and maths curriculum that we've not seen in this

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Speaker 22: country for decades, and they're trying to make sure they're

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Speaker 22: getting on top of it and teaching their kids in

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Speaker 22: a structured, explicit way. That's what they're focusing on. You

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Speaker 22: go into any classroom, they've all got their maths books

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Speaker 22: that we have provided out, their structured literacy books that

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Speaker 22: they're doing their hour a day. I mean, we are

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Speaker 22: undertaking the biggest reform and education worried about what matters

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Speaker 22: for student outcomes and this other stuff is Look, I

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Speaker 22: get it's important, and we are we are looking at it,

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Speaker 22: and it's their legitimate questions to be asked but actually answered.

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Speaker 22: But actually what matters is the.

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Speaker 2: That's a shame yet again, WhatsApp lets us down what matters?

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Speaker 2: Will We'll get the words and we'll have them for

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Speaker 2: you after the break fourteen too, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be important point to make. The final words, we're

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Speaker 2: raising student achievement, by the way, So we contacted her.

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Speaker 2: She put herself on hold of the WhatsApp broke down

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Speaker 2: or whatever it was. So raising student achievement is what

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Speaker 2: she was going to finish with. Important to point out

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Speaker 2: the Goldsmith review is a compro from within the government.

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Speaker 2: There are some of the government who wanted those that

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Speaker 2: clause dropped completely for clarity, because of course the clause

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Speaker 2: places are required on the board to reduce choice. So

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Speaker 2: if you're a board who doesn't want to have anything

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Speaker 2: to do with to Rail or murray whatever, you're pressured

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Speaker 2: into it. So the review is the compromise and it

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Speaker 2: depends what happens with the view. The unfortunate aspect, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: is that Goldsmith's in charge of the review and if

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Speaker 2: his review takes as long as is pooy deal, it's

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Speaker 2: a very expensive exercise and could take away. It's two

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Speaker 2: thirds of the way through. No, he hasn't, Glenn, That's

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Speaker 2: just a number he came up with. You only know

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Speaker 2: you two thirds of the way through if you know

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Speaker 2: where the finishing point is, because then you can measure it.

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Speaker 2: When there is no finishing point, you don't know where

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Speaker 2: you are. Mike High Hi do you two?

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Speaker 6: Hi?

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Speaker 9: Wow?

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Speaker 2: A fired up Erica Stanford outstanding need more? Thank you?

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00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: Neil Erica Stanford seems very defensive. A disappointing interview. There

1144
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Speaker 2: you go straight down the middle.

1145
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: You win some you lose some away the my casting

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with a Vida Retirement, Communities News togs Head vs.

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Speaker 2: By the Way from night update on Auckland's infamous CRL.

1148
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: The Central rail Link new forecast for patronage is nineteen

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00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 2: thousand people and ours that good don't know was twenty

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Speaker 2: seven thousand. So what happened to all the extra people?

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Speaker 2: Stacy Vanderputten is the Public Transport Director at AT and

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Speaker 2: it's with us, Stacy, good morning, good morning. What happened

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Speaker 2: to all the other people?

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Speaker 23: Well, I think we're sort of confusing a couple of

1155
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 23: things here. There's what i'd call design capacity, and then

1156
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 23: there's in terms of what is looking at in the

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Speaker 23: forward program for timetabling as well as patronage is mixed

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Speaker 23: them with that too. I can see all these things

1159
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 23: have kind of merged, and I understand it looks murky,

1160
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Speaker 23: but I mean fundamentally, what we're doing going into this

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Speaker 23: commencement of City rail Link is increasing capacity, and that's capacity,

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Speaker 23: not patronage by sixty percent of what it is today.

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Speaker 2: Understand that terribly more. I was told by your comms guys,

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Speaker 2: twenty seven thousand was never achievable and you needed six

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00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: trains at once and you don't even have six trains,

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Speaker 2: is that true?

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Speaker 23: Well, yes, and Norwich. So there's a couple of things

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00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 23: to unpack with that. So twenty seven thousand passengers per

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00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 23: hour is what the forward plan looks like, but there's

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Speaker 23: obviously a progress to get there based on demand and

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Speaker 23: further investment. That's always been the case. The actual business

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Speaker 23: case the City rail Link was fifteen trains per hour.

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Speaker 23: We're actually commencing with sixteen trains per hour. So there's

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Speaker 23: different what i'd call progress in order to get to

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Speaker 23: that twenty seven thousand per hour, but there's a planned

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Speaker 23: approach to doing it. Starting with that would be economically

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Speaker 23: irresponsible because you know, you've got to drive that demand.

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Speaker 23: It's already a significant increase.

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Speaker 2: Very fair point at nineteen thousand. We should point out

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Speaker 2: even at nineteen thousand, it's a fifty percent increase in patronage.

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00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: That's a push, isn't it. I mean it may be

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Speaker 2: that you never you never see a full train. In

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Speaker 2: other words, it doesn't work.

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Speaker 23: No, I highly doubt that. I think you know, this

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Speaker 23: is a huge game changer for Auckland. I mean, the

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Speaker 23: work has had considerable disruption over a prolong time, and

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Speaker 23: it is going to take a little effort in order

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Speaker 23: to get people to have the confidence in the train

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Speaker 23: network again. So that will take time, but it will happen.

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Speaker 23: I know there's a lot of enthusiasm for it among

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Speaker 23: who among Auckland is Yeah, they've been anticipating this for

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Speaker 23: a really long time.

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Speaker 2: Have you done a survey?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean this is great for Auckland. You've got

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Speaker 23: to look at what it does from an economical perspective.

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Speaker 23: You know, it helps people move around and that's what

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Speaker 23: we need to be doing in order to be able

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Speaker 23: to make our roads more free for the people that

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Speaker 23: actually need to use them. While having these options is important.

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Speaker 2: Sure, what did the surveys say?

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Speaker 23: The survey stays that everybody wants a reliable, stable train network.

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00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 23: That's something that's been compromised in recent years.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time, Stacy, have a good weekend, Stacy vander

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Speaker 2: Puttin right, Goldsmith po Tarker, Stanford vander putin.

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Speaker 9: Rank.

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Speaker 7: I feel like Accountability Friday is not going quite as

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Speaker 7: well as I'd hoped.

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Speaker 2: Rank them for me, I'll do it okay for me?

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Speaker 2: Stanford hands down, first, it was a very large pauses there.

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Speaker 2: Though it was a pause, it wasn't perfect, and so

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Speaker 2: it's perfect. I just said she was the best of

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Speaker 2: the four. Poe Tarker had a big pause in there

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Speaker 2: as well. Goldsmith was enthusiastic and yet unconvincing. And I

1214
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Speaker 2: thought Van Poot was Morgie, use a new word, give

1215
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Speaker 2: her points for that. Use us next, and then we'll

1216
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Speaker 2: google week Mazarie.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking would have been stateful, engaging and vital.

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Speaker 3: The Mic Hosking.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with the Defender actor the most powerful Defender ever

1220
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Speaker 1: made and used togsad.

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Speaker 2: Be how many? How many albums come out there?

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00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: Not as many as you might think.

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00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think many. I would say two would

1224
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: want to But we play too every week, that's true,

1225
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: So we're playing literally everything comes out some weeks other weeks.

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Speaker 2: There's heaps because this is just complete crap, isn't it.

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Speaker 20: Well I don't know about that.

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00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: I don't mind it is the band called fairy Land Codex,

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00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: or is the band called Tropical f Storm?

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Speaker 3: Well it's not called Tropical f Storm.

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Speaker 9: I thought we were allowed to say that word.

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Speaker 2: Now that we weren't. Everyone, So let's call the album

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Speaker 2: Tropical Left Storm.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, that would be wrong, because that's the name

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Speaker 3: of the band.

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Speaker 2: Let's call the band Tropical Left Storm, and let's call

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Speaker 2: the album Prai Land Codex. Okay, cool, So the chaotic

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00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: sound reaches new levels of intensity. See that's what it's

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Speaker 2: doing now. Yeah, they canceled all the tour in twenty

1240
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Speaker 2: twenty three, and they slowed down their recording output, and

1241
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: we probably all breathed a sigh of release. Upon listening,

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01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: and upon deeper listening, it becomes clear that some of

1243
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: the album's most overpowering moments of those that first come

1244
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: on as slight and retiring, but reveal their anger, disappointment,

1245
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: of frustration by way of a slow st Anymore, What

1246
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Speaker 2: About You fifteen minutes and thirty seven seconds over ten

1247
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Speaker 2: glorious tracks.

1248
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,479
Speaker 1: The Week in Review with two degrees Fighting for Fear

1249
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: for Kiwi Business.

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Speaker 2: Tim Wilson, Good morning, Good mornings, Kate Hawks. Well that's

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Speaker 2: a very poor connection we've got. Hopefully we'll do something

1252
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: about that, Kate Hawk's be good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 24: I'm surprised you didn't ask Glenn to play our big

1254
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 24: discovery this week. The song were discovered by Laurie in fact,

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Speaker 24: he can surely play it.

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Speaker 2: By the end of the she you can dig it

1257
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: up by the end of the show. Laurie McKenna, Mary

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Speaker 2: spelled Alo Ri Laurie McKenna. People people get older, Glen

1259
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Speaker 2: look out. It's absolutely brilliant. Let me give you the line.

1260
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: Time is a thief. Time is a thief. Pain is

1261
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: a gift. The past is the past.

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Speaker 9: It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: That's wonderful.

1264
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Speaker 2: It's Gloria McKenna.

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Speaker 22: And just wasted on the young, which is great, of course.

1266
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Speaker 2: Nothing and you'll like this, Tim, You'll like this Tim.

1267
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Speaker 2: Nothing says love like a band of gold. It's it's

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Speaker 2: Laurie McKennon. And it beats, it beats, it beats sold

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Speaker 2: Codex Tropical left Storm, I can tell you that's oh

1270
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: my goodness. You know, you know why they stopped.

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Speaker 7: They didn't have their tour because no one wanted to

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Speaker 7: come right exactly, That's why they in the twenty twenties,

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Speaker 7: how do I'm just.

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Speaker 24: Wondering if when Sam gets your morning coffee these days,

1275
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 24: maybe splosh some vodka or something and it just takes

1276
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 24: the edge off. Because I was listening to you with

1277
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 24: Ministers of the crown this morning, one after the other,

1278
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 24: falling like dominoes. And I thought to myself, if you're depressed,

1279
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 24: I'm depressed. We're all depressed. It's like I feel like

1280
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 24: we're stuck in a time warp, Like the bar has

1281
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 24: been dropped so low these days. It feels like everyone's

1282
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 24: just pushing pens around their desks. Nobody wants to act,

1283
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 24: nobody wants to make a decision. You know, how do

1284
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 24: you move forward as a country when everyone just wants

1285
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 24: to play it safe.

1286
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Speaker 2: He's a good question.

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Speaker 24: It maybe just provide vodka for the listeners as well.

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Speaker 22: At this point, I.

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Speaker 9: Got a podcast the answer.

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01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: I got an email overnight from a New Zealander who

1291
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Speaker 2: does quite a lot of traveling and he emails me

1292
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: periodically on his travels. And he's been in America in

1293
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: various cities over the last week or so, and he

1294
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: does the same thing every time. He says, what he

1295
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Speaker 2: can't believe having been in America this week is no

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Speaker 2: one he ran into, and he ran into. He's been

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Speaker 2: at conferences and stuff, so he's met running the many

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Speaker 2: dozens of not hundreds of people. And he also he

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Speaker 2: rates Uber drivers. Uber drivers sitt in the cow twelve

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Speaker 2: hours a day and they listen to a million different conversations,

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Speaker 2: so he rates them as very you know, in touch

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Speaker 2: people with what's going on. He claims, in the last

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Speaker 2: week or slightly more than a week, not a single

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Speaker 2: person he's run into in America has mentioned Iran, bombs, Trump,

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Speaker 2: or politics of any nature. They're too busy getting on

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Speaker 2: with life.

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Speaker 23: That's interesting.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's that's odd because I would expect America

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Speaker 7: to be more politicized than healing.

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Speaker 3: For example, I.

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Speaker 2: Reckon, I reckon. There's a trunk of America that's politicized,

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Speaker 2: and they're the same people who are onto the one

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Speaker 2: two seven thing. Erica Stanford whipping himself.

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Speaker 13: You gave her, you gave her points for that.

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Speaker 24: I actually think she boxed around that interview. I think

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Speaker 24: she was a bit of an own goal because she

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Speaker 24: ended up admitting, you know, she started off by saying

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Speaker 24: it's absolute rubbish, and and then she ended up saying, oh, yes,

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Speaker 24: yes it is in there.

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Speaker 22: It's just wait what.

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Speaker 12: No.

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Speaker 2: I gave her points. No, no, no, I gave her

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Speaker 2: points because of the four people we've had on this morning,

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Speaker 2: she was the best of a losery bunch howering of

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Speaker 2: the bar, isn't it exactly? That's exactly what I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to say. I've got I've got people on here this

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Speaker 2: morning that could be uplifting us, and every single one

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Speaker 2: of them, in their own way, has proved to be inadequate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike.

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Speaker 7: So, Mike's actually he's lying the bar to encourage Erica

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Speaker 7: to lift up. He's doing he's doing the fatherly thing.

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Speaker 2: What I want is people to be better.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, Paul Goldsmith, that was really disappointing. I was just

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Speaker 24: thinking when you start to say, well, we might be

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Speaker 24: two or three more years away, are you you know

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Speaker 24: that's you know, you may not even have that luxury

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Speaker 24: of being around that long mate, Like pull your head exactly.

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Speaker 2: I would see that as a person.

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Speaker 7: Can we have a review of reviews? Can we just

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Speaker 7: can we just pull us back? We'll get you know how,

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Speaker 7: We've got the regulatory standards principles. Can we have a

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Speaker 7: review principles bill that says reviews have to be done

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Speaker 7: in two weeks?

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Speaker 24: Why is this government doing so many reviews?

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Speaker 2: That's that was the last governments, last goverments, and then

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Speaker 2: that's that may well be while they're in the trouble

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Speaker 2: they're in quick comment and I will I will talk

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Speaker 2: to you, Tim, because you've embarrassed yourself badly this week.

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Speaker 2: But that's for after the break quick quick comment.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were going to pull back from this this.

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Speaker 2: Once people hear what's going on, they will be on

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Speaker 2: my side. But hold on, just my quick coming to

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't mind Katie on and to win tour and

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Speaker 2: a win tour? How big a deal is this? When

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Speaker 2: do you know, after all of those years, what a

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Speaker 2: wonderful woman. I love her. I love her almost as

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Speaker 2: much as love her I love the Princess of Wales.

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Speaker 22: Okay, why Winter so much?

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Speaker 2: Because what a story? Not a legacy? Forty yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: so she's hard to work with, but so am I.

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Speaker 2: But forty years.

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Speaker 24: She's next level. I mean, at the heart of it,

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Speaker 24: you're actually a decent person.

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Speaker 7: I don't think she y, yeah, you're You're just annoying.

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Speaker 7: She's Malloice exactly.

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Speaker 11: She is the devil.

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Speaker 2: On that note, we'll take a brief break thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, pow

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Speaker 1: it by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks B News Talks AB seventeen past eight for.

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Speaker 1: The Weekend Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to.

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Speaker 2: The table Katie and Tim with us. I was just

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Speaker 2: watching pictures of Jibb's aws and Venice, did Oprah's there

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Speaker 2: and Ushes there? Do you think if you Jeff Bezos,

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Speaker 2: do you reckon? He knows all these people are just

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Speaker 2: in by its famous people.

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Speaker 9: That's actually Lauren.

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01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 24: His wife's a real socialite schmoozer with these celebrities, so

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Speaker 24: she'd know them all right.

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Speaker 2: Exactly how new is her face?

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Speaker 9: It doesn't look real.

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Speaker 2: It's not well done, well spotted, well spotted to Unfortunately.

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Speaker 9: Did she get it?

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Speaker 3: Did she get it from Tim?

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Speaker 9: It just doesn't seem to be working for her.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing I've always understood, which brings us, I

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Speaker 2: guess to a zimpec and we go you next week.

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Speaker 2: The thing I've never understood about people who get plastic surgery,

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Speaker 2: especially people with a lot of money. Why do you

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Speaker 2: cock it up.

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Speaker 21: Well?

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Speaker 7: Why do you end up looking like someone who's head

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Speaker 7: plastic surgery?

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Speaker 2: Exactly what the point of plastic surgery was? You can't

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Speaker 2: really tell.

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Speaker 24: The beasts are a further ahead on this because they're

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Speaker 24: doing I think what they call Mike Crow micro treatments

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Speaker 24: or micro something, whereby it's so subtle that you really

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Speaker 24: can't tell, whereas the Americans are still doing that hardcore wow.

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Speaker 2: Dolly Parton is the best example. You're twenty Dolly Parton,

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Speaker 2: Dolly Partner. If you look at Dolly Parton's face, although

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Speaker 2: she's I think one hundred and three or one hundred

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Speaker 2: and four by now, is a superb example of brilliant

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Speaker 2: plastic surgery. She looks fantastic, whereas if you look at Sanchiez,

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Speaker 2: she looks like she went to someone practiced on her.

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Speaker 7: And Doline, I mean, Dolly, pardon amazing.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing, Katie and listeners. Tim is talking

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Speaker 2: to us injured and is sitting on ACC as we

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Speaker 2: speak this morning. Here's another one of the six million people,

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Speaker 2: at a cost of seven billion dollars to the taxpayer,

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Speaker 2: sitting on ACC this morning. And do you want me, Tim,

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Speaker 2: or do you want you to explain why you're on ACC?

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Speaker 3: Well, I would like to pick up the well.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a frisbee you've thrown to me, but

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Speaker 7: it's dropped at my feet. I'll pick it up with

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Speaker 7: my left hand because my right wrist is broken. I

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Speaker 7: will to do a public health warning about magnolia seed

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Speaker 7: pods because darkness plus gravity plus murderous magnolia seed pods

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Speaker 7: equals disaster, particularly if you're a clutch like me.

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Speaker 2: He stood well the other day when I saw you,

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Speaker 2: you said it was a pine cone. So you from

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Speaker 2: a pine cone to a magnolia seed bud.

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Speaker 7: And I've upgraded it because there's there's there's a bit

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Speaker 7: of a there's a thing happening here, and I'm going

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Speaker 7: to be the poster child for magnolia seed pods.

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Speaker 22: You fell over in your own garden?

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01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 24: Did you fall over in your own garden?

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Speaker 2: I was on the side of that. It was on

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Speaker 2: the foot path. So he's on the foot not looking

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Speaker 2: falls over. Here's the deal, next stop, next do so.

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Speaker 7: So I'm in there. I went to the hill for

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Speaker 7: something else, going to see Mike. I've got my cast on.

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Speaker 7: And you would understand this, Kate, just the tsunami of

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Speaker 7: bile derision and.

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Speaker 24: Attacking the abuse would be firing up.

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Speaker 9: It was just like, well, have you done yoursel?

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Speaker 2: Have you been running again? Were you on a scooter?

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Speaker 2: You loser?

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01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,560
Speaker 7: Wait a minute, are you on acc who's paying for this?

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01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 7: Am I paying for this? And I'm just like, I

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01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 7: just want to I just want to feel safe.

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Speaker 2: For the record, when acc they do the X number

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Speaker 2: of people fell off a latter twelve hundred people were

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Speaker 2: in construction, you know, six thousand people in forestry. How

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Speaker 2: many other people do you think fell over a seed pod?

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Speaker 7: Well, I've run into the data and ended ta waka kotai.

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01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 7: They do seven hundred pedestrian injuries a year. They don't

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Speaker 7: disaggregate for seed pods. I think the government it's going

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01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 7: after all the wrong things. They need to get these

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01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 7: statistics on the table so people can be safe.

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Speaker 2: Mike, seven hundred per year. That's two people per day

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Speaker 2: potentially falling over a seed pod.

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Speaker 9: Exactly.

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01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 3: It's a big deal.

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01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 22: Is it?

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01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: The most embarrassing injury you've ever had?

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Speaker 4: No?

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01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 24: Coming on with scooter must be worse.

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Speaker 7: So what I'm going to do is I've given up goating,

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Speaker 7: running and walking.

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Speaker 2: I'm in bed. I'm staying in bed.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to cost anyone any more damn money.

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01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: Nice to see you, guys. Let's listen to Laurie.

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Speaker 14: I know it too long, they'll be running up making

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Speaker 14: a life just like you did.

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Speaker 3: Houses need paint? When does bring snow?

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Speaker 1: Not just said love like a band?

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Speaker 14: The gold babies grow up and houses get sold in

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Speaker 14: that tell it's good.

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Speaker 9: Here's the listener.

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Speaker 5: Dynasty pains gift, The Beast is fast.

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Speaker 18: It is what it is.

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01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 3: Every line on your face tells a story to somebody know.

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Speaker 3: It's just so good.

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Speaker 21: Live long.

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Speaker 9: The people you love.

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Speaker 21: Get old.

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Speaker 2: Another thing I've discovered this week. Never heard of it,

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Speaker 2: didn't any of the music. So there's a discovery.

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Speaker 9: If you like it.

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Speaker 2: Live in the country music, you can do no wrong.

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Speaker 2: You can thank me later. It is eight twenty two.

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Speaker 2: every Day. Asking Miche what happened to Katie's pickaball, very

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Speaker 2: good question. I didn't raise it, did I yet?

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Speaker 19: Again?

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01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 2: Loose around the edges. It wasn't pickable, As it turns out,

1512
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 2: I thought it was pickable when I told you it

1513
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,799
Speaker 2: was pickable yesterday. I was of the belief it was pickable,

1514
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 2: wasn't pickaball a squash, So she went just just ordinary

1515
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 2: every day, regular, every day squash, boring old fashioned squash.

1516
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 2: And so it was sort of supposed to be in

1517
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 2: some way shape or form paddle ball. But I think

1518
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 2: that she's going from squash two pedal ball. So warm

1519
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: it up on the squash, get into the peddle ball.

1520
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 2: It was never pickled as that's like altitude training. It

1521
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: might be similar. You warm up into something it's you know,

1522
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 2: and then you do something easier. I think you're I

1523
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 2: think you're ready for the different to racketball? Is squash

1524
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 2: different to racketball? Racketballs just shure squash is the same

1525
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 2: as racketball, except with shorter rackets. It's a good question,

1526
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: Thoughpening Well raised just before the news Mike, I went

1527
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 2: saw If Won the movie last night. It's fantastic. I'm

1528
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 2: getting quite a bit of feedback on that. A number

1529
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 2: of you week to the movies last night, Open Thursday,

1530
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 2: and you speak well of it. So that's encouraging and

1531
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 2: it'll be good because it's not like it hasn't been

1532
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 2: sure to hide news for you in a couple of

1533
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,440
Speaker 2: moments an hour, Old mate Murray.

1534
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 3: His next.

1535
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: News opinion and everything in between, the make Hosking Breakfast

1536
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate differently since nineteen

1537
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 1: seventy three news Togsa'd.

1538
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 2: Been if you're heading off for the school holidays to Europe,

1539
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 2: that's the thing. I'm still going to agree. Yesterday's at

1540
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: the hair dress yesterday and I said, is it just me?

1541
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 2: But this everyone goes to Europe thing in the middle

1542
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: of the year. Has that become a thing? He said

1543
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: he could not tell me the number of people he's

1544
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 2: dealt with in the last week who were getting their

1545
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: hair done in preparation for the school holidays to.

1546
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 3: Go to Europe.

1547
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: And so seven hundred and forty five thousand Forrey New

1548
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: Zealand alone, allegedly, or so they keeping. Did we get

1549
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 2: to the bottom of that? Do we do those numbers

1550
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: yesterday and work it out? I was still trying, Are

1551
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 2: we it's good enough? Sam? Don't tum a po tucker me.

1552
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 2: We're still trying anyway?

1553
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 10: Where was I?

1554
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 2: So it is the thing that it has become a thing.

1555
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 2: People leave New Zealand in August, July, June for Europe,

1556
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 2: and so I can allud you to the fact that

1557
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: the second heat wave of twenty twenty five is coming

1558
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 2: for Britain this weekend thirty. It's going to get ugly

1559
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 2: in the first part of next week if you regard

1560
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 2: thirty as being ugly as opposed to just mildly warm

1561
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 2: if you live in a place like Sidney. Hottest day

1562
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five was June twenty one, that was

1563
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: in Charlwood, Surrey, where it got to thirty three point two.

1564
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: Hottest start to Wimbledon. Previous record twenty nine point three

1565
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: that was two thousand and one, so it may be broken.

1566
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 2: And glastow record for Glastow currently is thirty one point

1567
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 2: two that was in twenty seventeen, so Rod might fade,

1568
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Twenty two to.

1569
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 15: Nine International correspondence with ends at Eye Insurance Peace of

1570
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 15: Mind for New Zealand business now make Murray.

1571
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: Olds as well us morning man.

1572
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 9: How are you, Michael? Very good morning? Pretty well, thank

1573
01:14:59,080 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 9: you pretty good?

1574
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: Good? Are you moving house?

1575
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 9: No?

1576
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just reading this morning. Barangaroo Yes, three well,

1577
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 2: Barangaroo three level penthouse just sold for the new record

1578
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 2: of one hundred and forty one point five five million

1579
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: dollars and I assumed it was you.

1580
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 14: No, no, no, it's not me, like I was the

1581
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 14: underbidd I was beaten by a fabulously wealthy Chinese businessman.

1582
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 9: He was also bought the level below.

1583
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: Oh okay, sixteen. It's very nice people who stopped by,

1584
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 2: exactly down on them on your level and you go downstairs.

1585
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: Sixteen hundred squares, nine beds entry for you, of course,

1586
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 2: as you'd expect, eight meter high ceilings, rooftop swimming, full

1587
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,759
Speaker 2: spad gym. It broke the And this is the interesting

1588
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: thing for me is that do you know the building?

1589
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 2: It's the one Sydney Harbor, the seventy you know, beautiful ones.

1590
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 14: It's the most glorious looking building and Sydney very phallic. Yeah,

1591
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 14: but when you see it with the sun coming off it,

1592
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 14: it's just absolutely beautiful.

1593
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 2: Guy, I did it, Renzo Piano un four name. He's

1594
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 2: done the shard which I like, and the pop of

1595
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 2: the Centa Popado in Paris. That's his building.

1596
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 9: Anyway.

1597
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 2: What interests me is, I don't know if you're into building.

1598
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: I'm into building. But it's broken one hundred thousand dollars

1599
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 2: a square meter, which is a gob smacking amount of

1600
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: money you.

1601
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 9: Think surely is absolutely right.

1602
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 14: I mean, you know, the average price of a house

1603
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 14: now in Australia is a million dollars million Australian dollars.

1604
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 2: But at that price, you're getting a ten meter house.

1605
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 9: It's not They're correct.

1606
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be ready to move in a ten meter house?

1607
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 9: Is good?

1608
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 7: Now?

1609
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 2: Defense spending miles went, I notice and got stuck in

1610
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 2: the photo at the top right corner. Didn't meet Trump.

1611
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,759
Speaker 2: So where he at with your five percent?

1612
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 14: Well, we're not going to five percent, the federal government says,

1613
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 14: we're we're going to lift it from two percent of

1614
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 14: gross domestic product to two point three percent by twenty twenty,

1615
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 14: by twenty thirty three thirty four, and the pharaohs on ease.

1616
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 9: He's concerned. That's that's where it's going to be.

1617
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 14: We're not going to get bullied by the United States

1618
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 14: if it's all about trade surpluses. In twenty twenty four,

1619
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 14: eighteen billion dollars the surplus in favor of the United

1620
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 14: States and Australia is on the hook for four hundred

1621
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,919
Speaker 14: billion dollars of nuclear powered submarines, allegedly to be supplied

1622
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 14: by the United States. We get three second hand ones

1623
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 14: sometime in the twenty thirties. I mean, I'm not sure

1624
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 14: who in Australia thinks it's a good idea to get

1625
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 14: bullied by Washington when you know everything is an Australia's favor.

1626
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 14: We are committed to buying these ridiculous body submarines, you know,

1627
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 14: And there's a thirty day review now that America is conducting.

1628
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 14: Is it still feasible? Is it still desirable to sell

1629
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:50,440
Speaker 14: Australia these subs. What Australia should be doing is amplifying

1630
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 14: what it's already done as roll out in the welcome

1631
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 14: mat for the American nuclear submarine fleet that they can

1632
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 14: have a home port in Western Australia, they can stationed

1633
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 14: marines up and darw and they could do all sorts

1634
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 14: of stuff on Australian real estate. But to buy these

1635
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 14: sub we haven't got the crew for one submarine. What

1636
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 14: the hell are we doing buying seven or eight with

1637
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 14: whatever the heck it is out to twenty sixties, We'll

1638
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 14: be in the grave. It's just ridiculous. We should be

1639
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 14: buying stuff that matters here and now, and stuff that

1640
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 14: can be done here in Australia.

1641
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 9: That's building missiles and drones.

1642
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 2: I should have raised this a moment ago. Your inflation number,

1643
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 2: by the way, congratulations on that, because that seems like

1644
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 2: a good, rock solid you.

1645
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 9: Know, twelve months to May. Very good.

1646
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, the core is down as well, which is our problem.

1647
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: Our problem is that the standard headline is down, but

1648
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: the core is a problem. Prices are still rising. But

1649
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 2: I read the other day and you'd know about this.

1650
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 2: I mean, is fomo's back in real estate? People they

1651
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 2: say are borrowing like there's no tomorrow. They think the

1652
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 2: prices are going to go up. They've got to get

1653
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: in all that sort of stuff.

1654
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 9: Is that true? Absolutely right.

1655
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 14: I mean they're talking now another three rate cuts between

1656
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 14: now and Christmas. And as rate cuts go down, the

1657
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 14: real estate market starts heating up. As you well know,

1658
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 14: it's just supply and demand. If you've got more money

1659
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 14: to spend, and you know, lenders are more willing to

1660
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 14: lend because you know the rates are heading down. It's

1661
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 14: right in a sweet spot. In fact, it's the low

1662
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 14: end of the sweet spot for the Reserve Bank of Australia.

1663
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 14: So yes, rates are coming down and that will absolutely

1664
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 14: far up the market you've got. But you know, you've

1665
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 14: got extraordinary numbers of immigrants as well coming in. That's

1666
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 14: something the opposition is howling about, and the government makes

1667
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 14: no apologies. It says, well, the immigration rate is actually

1668
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 14: is keeping the ecolomy going.

1669
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 9: People are out there.

1670
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 14: Coming in buying fridges and beds and sofas and washing machines,

1671
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 14: and they're keeping the joint going.

1672
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,560
Speaker 2: Is My question is, and I run the risk of

1673
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 2: upsetting you because you may know these people, who's more annoying,

1674
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 2: Who's more annoying? The ABC or Antoinette Latouf.

1675
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 14: Well, look, I work for one and I find the

1676
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 14: other very annoying. But the fact of the matter is,

1677
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 14: as a fifty as a journalist for fifty years, what

1678
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 14: she did was not deserving of being sacked. I mean, goodness,

1679
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 14: meeting No, the story had already been run on the news.

1680
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 14: We see news for God's sake, and then she reposts it.

1681
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,440
Speaker 14: You know, the fact that the Human Rights Organization alleges

1682
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 14: that starvation is being used as a weapon of war

1683
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 14: in Gaza, and you know, she's punted. And the thing is,

1684
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 14: I think a lot of people were very very upset

1685
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 14: that there's a very vocal and very well organized pro

1686
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 14: Israel lobby in Australia and that's that's fine.

1687
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 9: You go as hard as you want.

1688
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 14: Is an equally strong and vociferous pro Palestinian lobby here

1689
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 14: in Sydney, and that's fine too, that's what you know.

1690
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 14: It's all about free speech. But for her then to

1691
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 14: get all over the coals and punted and then, I

1692
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 14: mean it was a one week fill in shift.

1693
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 2: But that's me But Murray, that's the point. What is

1694
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 2: the matter with the ABC? Because you work for them,

1695
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 2: you would know. So she's on a five day contract

1696
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 2: after day two and she was a noisemaker anyway, they

1697
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 2: knew who she was reputationally speaking. And then also the

1698
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: Work Act in Australia quite clearly says you can't sack

1699
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 2: people for having an opinion. So knowing all of that,

1700
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 2: they think that spending a million dollars on a lawyer

1701
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 2: is smart play, do they?

1702
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:05,839
Speaker 9: Well? That panicked. They panicked.

1703
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 14: The upper echelons panicked because they're getting emails from you know,

1704
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 14: leading pro Israel figures here in Australia. They all had,

1705
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,839
Speaker 14: you know, the email for the bosses of the ABC,

1706
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 14: and the decision was made by a lower down executive

1707
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 14: to give her a flick.

1708
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 9: Now she went away.

1709
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 14: She came back with legal representation and offered a settle

1710
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 14: for eighty five kas. Absolutely not no, no, no, no no.

1711
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 14: So she went to the Fair Work people. She'd been

1712
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 14: awarded seventy thousand dollars for unfair dismissal. As you say,

1713
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 14: the legal build of the ABC, we'll over one point

1714
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,759
Speaker 14: one million dollars and there's the chance of punitive damages

1715
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 14: next week.

1716
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 9: I think it's next week and heavens and not have

1717
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 9: buddy big? Is that going to be norm.

1718
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 2: That'll be the problem? Does anyone does anyone's headge role

1719
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,799
Speaker 2: at the ABC because of this? I mean the government

1720
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 2: can't be looking at this thinking this is fun.

1721
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 9: No, it's not fun. And the person responsible is well

1722
01:21:58,479 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 9: he left last year.

1723
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 3: So no more.

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Speaker 2: Just just at the risk of being dreadfully superficial because

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Speaker 2: I am running a book on this. Guilty or not

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Speaker 2: guilty today, I mean it will be today. I mean,

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Speaker 2: how long is the judge going to take to you know,

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Speaker 2: send them out.

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Speaker 14: He's going to be continuing today, They'll be sent out

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Speaker 14: and in fact he's going to keep going into a Monday.

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Speaker 2: Pous Oh that's right. He's got. He's given them to

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Speaker 2: day off, isn't he. I think I think they're taking

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Speaker 2: the day off or part of the day off, and

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Speaker 2: they're coming back on Monday.

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Speaker 14: I read that somewhere last night, and I've got an idea.

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Speaker 14: If they are off today, it's only half a day

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Speaker 14: and weekend off, and then they go back on Monday.

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Speaker 14: He will finish the summing up and will then be

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Speaker 14: sent away. And I mean, look, it's where's my notes here?

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Speaker 14: It said it was ninth week. Next week will be

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Speaker 14: the tenth week.

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, extraordinary, extraordinary.

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Speaker 14: And you know she's accused of three murders and one

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Speaker 14: attempted murder, deliberately poisoning family members.

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Speaker 2: I think she's as guilty as and obviously so my

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01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 2: wife says she'll get off. Steve Price says she'll probably

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Speaker 2: get off.

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Speaker 9: Well, you see where the judge is going here.

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Speaker 14: He said, listen, the prosecution must prove Mike to the

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01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 14: ultimate standard, that is beyond reasonable doubt.

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Speaker 9: If there's any doubt at all, you must have quit.

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Speaker 2: And they need and Victoria's got the whole thing, don't they.

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Speaker 2: That's twelve out of twelve. There's no eleven one, ten

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Speaker 2: to two. That's they've all got to be unanimous.

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Speaker 14: Interestingly, there are fourteen jurors that have sat through all

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Speaker 14: of this and there's to be a ballot today to

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Speaker 14: get rid of.

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Speaker 9: To with them.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. All right, mate, go well, you have a good weekend.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch up soon. Murray Old's thirteen Away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Said, be morning, Mike. Did you get to the F

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Speaker 2: one movie last night? No going this evening? Countwake Brendan.

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Speaker 2: You enjoy my daughter?

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Speaker 9: Do it?

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Speaker 2: As it turns out? And she says, great, but a

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Speaker 2: bit long. I think it's three and a half. If

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Speaker 2: it's not three and a half, it's three, it's long.

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Speaker 2: The Girk and Mike was a Norman Foster designed That

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Speaker 2: is correct. Norman Foster probably my favorite. But then I thought, no,

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Speaker 2: Lewis Kahn. If you never said the pretty good documentary

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01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 2: about Lewis Kahn. Looked that up over the weekend. If

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Speaker 2: you've got a couple of moment and so the other

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Speaker 2: thing just before we live Australia they cracked a million

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Speaker 2: public servants one point one million, three hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: thousand people have gone into public service in the past

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Speaker 2: three years since Albanese has been running the place. The

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Speaker 2: non market part of the economy account of seventy three

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01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 2: percent of the job's created since May of twenty four

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01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: see not So Long ago i e. Two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 2: seventy six percent of people in Australia were in the

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Speaker 2: private sector. Then that dropped by mid nineteen to seventy

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01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 2: two percent. Now it's down to sixty eight. So the

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01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: rest are in the public sector. Is growing and growing

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01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: and growing and growing, and does Australia benefit But all

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Speaker 2: of that just very quickly. There's a very I would

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01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: regard it to be a very important judgment that came

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01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: out yesterday from the US. It's ruled, or the judge

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01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: is ruled that using books to train AI is not

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01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 2: a violation of copyright. So brought by some authors, three

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Speaker 2: of them they accused Anthropic and Thropic is owned by

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01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 2: you know who Alphabet accused them of stealing their work

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01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 2: to train their AI model. The judge, William Alsop Andthropics

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01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: use of the author's books was exceedingly transformative and therefore

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Speaker 2: allowed under US law. He rejected, though Anthropics request to

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Speaker 2: dismiss the case because the film would have to stand

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Speaker 2: trial over its use of pirated copies to build its

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Speaker 2: library material. They've got a lot of these pirated copies,

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Speaker 2: more than seven million of them. So this is one

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Speaker 2: of the first cases in the whole are you stealing

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01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 2: my stuff to make your stuff? Debates? And this is

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Speaker 2: going to go on for years. Eight minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 3: The Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news Dogs.

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Speaker 2: They'd be if one this weekend at the Red Bull Ring.

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Speaker 2: Good thing about the Red Bull Ring is it's not

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Speaker 2: a big track, but it's a fast track and there

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01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: are three d drs zones allows for overtaking. Liam could go, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm excited. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Warehouse celebrate big brands and biggest savings.

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Speaker 2: Right LG. They've launched Radio Optimism. It's a campaign to

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Speaker 2: about the social disconnection in our world. So what you

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Speaker 2: do is you put some stuff in and it makes

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Speaker 2: a song for you. So we put in my name

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Speaker 2: the name of the person we wanted the song about.

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Speaker 2: So we decided Tama Potucker. You're allowed one hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty letters as to why you're writing the song for Tima.

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Speaker 2: So we said things like because he appears asleep at

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Speaker 2: the wheel, doesn't know where the money's coming from. Be decisive,

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Speaker 2: make a decision, fewer reviews, more action. The genre you

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Speaker 2: then picked the genre. I wanted folk, but they didn't

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Speaker 2: have that, so we've gone with country. Then we had

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Speaker 2: to pick a vibe for the song, and I went

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Speaker 2: with energetic. And here's what came up. Tamma, you've gotta spark.

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Speaker 21: Ben never feeds. He stand tall, never second guess the

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01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 21: road you take. Every step you show the world what

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Speaker 21: you can do moving forward, Jeanes come true. Keep on going,

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Speaker 21: Tama Chase that off and skyes decisions made. It's co.

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Speaker 3: Keep on going, Tamba.

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01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 2: Letting your story ridest. A lot of the money is

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Speaker 2: coming a week. Make a decision, more action, fewer reviews.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday Radio optimism.

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01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 3: I see the progress shining in your smile.

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01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 2: Each choice and action makes it all worthwhile.

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01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 3: I'm cheering loud from every mile.

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Speaker 18: You lead.

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Speaker 3: The way you walk a pre style. Keep on going,

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Speaker 3: Tama Chase.

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Speaker 2: That that's some decisions. That's about as bad as I

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01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 2: thought it would be. Fighting in several times next week

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01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 2: just for funds. Also this weekend, of course, we've got

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01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 2: the Warriors and the Broncos. That's tomorrow, Broncos, A good

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01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 2: side Broncos. That was I can't remember it was that

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01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 2: the sitting on a hell whoever it was, was suggesting

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01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 2: they're one of the signs that could win it and

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01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 2: could go all the way, so it could be a

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01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: good game. Anyway, whatever you're doing, you have a fantastic weekend.

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Speaker 2: Will see you Monday, as always, Happy Days.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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Speaker 1: News Talks at B from six am weekdays, or follow

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