WEBVTT - Full Show Podcast: 23 March 2025 0:00:06.815 --> 0:00:10.655 You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp 0:00:10.855 --> 0:00:14.815 from US Talks it by helping you get those DIY 0:00:14.895 --> 0:00:18.935 projects done right. The Resident Fielder with Peter Wolfcamp call 0:00:19.175 --> 0:00:21.375 eight hundred eighteen eighteen US Talk said, be. 0:00:24.815 --> 0:00:30.615 The house sizzle even when it's dark, even when the 0:00:30.695 --> 0:00:35.455 grass is overgrown in the yard, and even. 0:00:35.295 --> 0:00:39.615 When a dog is too old to barn, and when 0:00:39.615 --> 0:00:45.975 you're sitting at the table trying not to starve, sissor hole. 0:00:46.935 --> 0:00:52.535 Even when we are ben gone, even when you're therellone 0:01:03.815 --> 0:01:09.855 house sizzle hole, even when even when you go around 0:01:10.015 --> 0:01:15.335 from the ones you love, your mom screams bording pains 0:01:15.455 --> 0:01:16.455 being in fund. 0:01:18.695 --> 0:01:26.375 Locals er when they're going leaving theirs, even. 0:01:26.215 --> 0:01:27.095 When we'll be. 0:01:29.095 --> 0:01:31.255 Even when you're in there alone. 0:01:32.415 --> 0:01:42.495 Yeah, and a very very good morning and welcome along 0:01:42.575 --> 0:01:45.015 to the Resonant Builder on Sunday. You with me Peter 0:01:45.095 --> 0:01:48.655 wolf Camp, Resident Builder, and we are talking all things 0:01:48.735 --> 0:01:52.295 building and construction, lots and lots happening in that space 0:01:52.815 --> 0:01:55.695 at the moment, and especially in terms of legislation. We'll 0:01:55.695 --> 0:01:57.775 go into it a little bit more detail later on. 0:01:59.255 --> 0:02:01.655 You know, change of government feels like it's a little 0:02:01.695 --> 0:02:04.855 while ago now, lots and lots of talk about we're 0:02:04.895 --> 0:02:07.455 going to make things more efficient, We're going to make 0:02:07.535 --> 0:02:10.335 some changes, we're going to make it quicker, easier, faster, 0:02:10.535 --> 0:02:12.575 to build houses more affordably, etc. 0:02:12.815 --> 0:02:12.975 Etc. 0:02:13.815 --> 0:02:16.935 And in fact, a couple of quite big announcements that 0:02:17.095 --> 0:02:20.415 came out on Friday. So I've got the press releases 0:02:20.455 --> 0:02:23.095 and we can have a look at some of that detail. Now, 0:02:23.255 --> 0:02:26.455 maybe those things are actually of little importance to you. 0:02:27.415 --> 0:02:30.655 Perhaps you're struggling along trying to get a job done 0:02:30.735 --> 0:02:34.575 around the house, a practical type of job where maybe 0:02:34.615 --> 0:02:39.655 you're trying to finish fixing some squeaky floorboards, or perhaps 0:02:39.735 --> 0:02:43.815 you're looking to upgrade the extraction from your bathroom, which 0:02:43.855 --> 0:02:45.895 is exactly what I'm only saying that because that was 0:02:45.975 --> 0:02:50.375 my task last couple of days. The old ceiling fan 0:02:50.455 --> 0:02:54.215 had finally given up the ghost. It wasn't terribly effective. 0:02:54.575 --> 0:02:58.175 This is the extraction from the bathroom. It wasn't terribly effective. 0:02:59.455 --> 0:03:01.655 To be blunt, I didn't do a great job installing 0:03:01.735 --> 0:03:05.455 it in the first place. So I found a replacement 0:03:05.535 --> 0:03:09.175 which was the same size, which is good. It had 0:03:09.215 --> 0:03:12.295 a slightly different arrangement, which means I needed to redo 0:03:12.415 --> 0:03:16.095 the ducting and I needed to redo the exit point 0:03:16.335 --> 0:03:19.655 out of the building as well, so old house one 0:03:19.775 --> 0:03:23.975 hundred and twenty odd years of dust up there. It 0:03:24.175 --> 0:03:27.735 was hot yesterday. It was hot the day before as well, 0:03:27.855 --> 0:03:30.575 so it was nice thirty eight degrees, nice brisk thirty 0:03:30.615 --> 0:03:34.775 eight degrees up inside the roof space. And excuse me, 0:03:35.335 --> 0:03:37.295 by the time you get out to the outside edge 0:03:38.575 --> 0:03:42.015 there's not a lot of headroom there either. Anyway, it 0:03:42.175 --> 0:03:47.295 got done and I was delighted with that. Albeit, yeah, anyway, 0:03:47.615 --> 0:03:49.975 it was a bit dry and dusty up there, but 0:03:50.455 --> 0:03:52.895 that's my job done. Yesterday, wrapped up at about I 0:03:52.935 --> 0:03:55.895 don't know, five thirty quarter to six something like that, 0:03:56.855 --> 0:03:59.655 just in time for dinner. So if you are working 0:03:59.735 --> 0:04:02.815 away on a project and it's maybe it's going well, 0:04:02.975 --> 0:04:06.455 or perhaps it's not going particularly well at all, and 0:04:06.535 --> 0:04:08.255 you'd like to talk about it, this is the show 0:04:08.375 --> 0:04:13.855 for you. So all things building, construction, regulations, the legal 0:04:14.175 --> 0:04:16.495 side of it, what you can do, what you can't do, 0:04:17.575 --> 0:04:21.055 where to go and find the correct answers. In fact, 0:04:21.135 --> 0:04:23.055 I was at I had to go and pick up 0:04:23.055 --> 0:04:27.495 some taps yesterday as well, went into Chesters Plumbing and 0:04:27.575 --> 0:04:32.415 we got talking about tile showers. Tile showers seemingly are 0:04:32.455 --> 0:04:35.615 a bit of a nightmare in terms of compliance. All 0:04:35.695 --> 0:04:38.855 well and good when you're doing it from scratch, but 0:04:39.015 --> 0:04:41.255 in terms of can you do a tile shower without 0:04:41.295 --> 0:04:44.975 a building consent as sort of an alteration to an 0:04:45.055 --> 0:04:49.895 existing bathroom, I think the short answer is you always 0:04:49.975 --> 0:04:53.535 need a consent for that. But in reading more about it, 0:04:53.695 --> 0:04:56.255 I've found some information that goes well, actually, if it's 0:04:56.295 --> 0:04:59.135 a certain type of tile shower, maybe you don't. We 0:04:59.175 --> 0:05:02.215 could go into that detail as well. Oh, eight hundred 0:05:02.335 --> 0:05:04.535 eighty ten eighty, let's rip into it. It is coming 0:05:04.615 --> 0:05:08.855 up just gone eleven minutes after six on. Actually it 0:05:08.935 --> 0:05:11.255 was quite a pleasant Sunday morning, certainly, getting a little 0:05:11.575 --> 0:05:14.255 crisper out there in the morning. Car's got a bit 0:05:14.295 --> 0:05:16.175 of dew on it when I jumped into the truck 0:05:16.255 --> 0:05:20.055 this morning. And the days are just a little bit shorter, 0:05:20.095 --> 0:05:23.055 and I think daylight saving ends a couple of weeks away. 0:05:23.175 --> 0:05:26.215 Something like that's not too far away. So if you're 0:05:26.215 --> 0:05:28.855 thinking about doing outside jobs, now is probably the time 0:05:28.935 --> 0:05:32.775 to get cracking. Or perhaps your attention has already turned 0:05:32.815 --> 0:05:35.095 to some of those indoor tasks that you'd like to 0:05:35.175 --> 0:05:38.415 get sorted out. We can talk about all things inside outside, 0:05:38.655 --> 0:05:41.895 under the floor, up on the roof, inside the roof, 0:05:41.895 --> 0:05:44.095 where I spent a decent couple of hours the last 0:05:44.135 --> 0:05:50.695 few days, or any other building construction related issues that 0:05:50.775 --> 0:05:52.935 you would like to discuss. Eight hundred and eighty ten 0:05:53.015 --> 0:05:55.735 eighty is the number nine two nine two is the 0:05:55.895 --> 0:06:01.375 text number. That's zbzb off your mobile phone. And if 0:06:01.415 --> 0:06:04.455 you'd like to send me an email, you are absolutely welcome. 0:06:04.175 --> 0:06:04.455 To do that. 0:06:04.895 --> 0:06:07.695 It's peaked at Newstalks. It'd be dot co dot NZ. 0:06:08.335 --> 0:06:11.815 A little later on the show, a story that was 0:06:12.095 --> 0:06:14.135 kind of well did it make headlines that might be 0:06:14.215 --> 0:06:17.855 overstating it to be fair. It popped up during the 0:06:17.895 --> 0:06:21.095 course of the week around an application by a developer, 0:06:22.335 --> 0:06:28.495 Kirkpatrick Group and Auckland to develop a eleven story mix 0:06:28.735 --> 0:06:33.055 of retail and commercial space so shops down below, offices 0:06:33.215 --> 0:06:37.695 up above on a fairly prominent site on Auckland's K Road. 0:06:38.135 --> 0:06:40.895 The pretty much the end of K Road near where 0:06:40.935 --> 0:06:44.415 it meets was it New North no Great North Road? 0:06:44.575 --> 0:06:47.055 And is it Great Norroad? 0:06:47.135 --> 0:06:51.615 New North Road, Great North Road and Potsbury Road and 0:06:51.855 --> 0:06:55.055 Newton Gully around that area there it's the old site 0:06:55.415 --> 0:06:57.135 for those of you who might have had motorbikes in 0:06:57.175 --> 0:06:59.855 the past. It's where the old Coleman Suzuki was up 0:06:59.895 --> 0:07:05.215 on K Road and the developer had proposed an eleven 0:07:05.335 --> 0:07:09.415 story building, which is not insignificant, but it had a 0:07:09.455 --> 0:07:11.575 couple of unique features. It was going to be a 0:07:11.775 --> 0:07:15.095 mass timber building, so I celt or something similar, which 0:07:15.215 --> 0:07:18.975 is cross laminated timber. It was going to have a 0:07:19.175 --> 0:07:24.295 very high ecological rating, so it's a Green Star six 0:07:24.535 --> 0:07:28.735 rated building. It's in an area where you know, we've 0:07:28.815 --> 0:07:31.375 just spent four and a half almost five billion dollars 0:07:31.415 --> 0:07:36.175 building a railway line that will encourage mass transit. It's 0:07:36.295 --> 0:07:39.335 walking distance to the train station, these sorts of things, 0:07:39.535 --> 0:07:42.255 and well it's a little bit of a walk, I 0:07:42.375 --> 0:07:45.775 have to say, it's not like it's right round the corner. Anyway. 0:07:45.815 --> 0:07:49.535 The building went into Auckland Council. It goes because it's 0:07:49.575 --> 0:07:53.295 a notifiable building. It went to the planning committee. They 0:07:53.495 --> 0:07:57.455 sought submissions from people and they ended up deciding that 0:07:58.015 --> 0:08:02.015 it wasn't the appropriate type of building for that area. 0:08:02.775 --> 0:08:05.655 There was concerns about its scale, about its appearance on 0:08:05.735 --> 0:08:08.455 the skyline, et cetera, et cetera. So they've turned down 0:08:08.495 --> 0:08:11.935 planning permission for it, and I kind of read through 0:08:11.975 --> 0:08:14.295 the article. It seems that Chris Bishop, member of Parliament, 0:08:14.415 --> 0:08:19.415 also read that article and talked about insanity and absurdity 0:08:19.655 --> 0:08:23.575 and the ridiculousness of the planning thing and why the 0:08:23.775 --> 0:08:28.975 RIMA Resource Management Act needs reform, et cetera, et cetera. 0:08:29.015 --> 0:08:30.695 I think a number of other people said this is 0:08:30.855 --> 0:08:34.295 absurd and then out of the blue, someone involved in 0:08:34.335 --> 0:08:37.375 it who's been on this show before, Hamish Firth, sent 0:08:37.455 --> 0:08:39.775 me an email as well, going, hey, your thoughts on this. 0:08:40.375 --> 0:08:42.855 We had some email correspondence. I thought, ah, let's chat 0:08:42.935 --> 0:08:46.015 about it and just in general terms, what happens with 0:08:46.135 --> 0:08:50.975 these large, significant developments, what the planning processes, Who the 0:08:51.255 --> 0:08:55.255 planning committee are. I'm curious to know as to how 0:08:55.335 --> 0:08:59.015 they get appointed to these roles and what happens when 0:08:59.135 --> 0:09:04.375 they make a decision that perhaps you will be appealed 0:09:04.495 --> 0:09:07.135 or needs to be appealed. That might be a little 0:09:07.175 --> 0:09:10.295 bit subjective, but we can talk about that. So Hamish 0:09:10.375 --> 0:09:13.375 Firth from Mount Holpson Group, who, as I say, happened 0:09:14.015 --> 0:09:17.095 he's been on the show regularly as an expert, but 0:09:17.215 --> 0:09:20.215 he also is involved on behalf of the developer in 0:09:20.375 --> 0:09:23.055 this particular case. So I'm not going to lobby for 0:09:23.295 --> 0:09:25.495 or against it, but I'm always interested to see how 0:09:25.615 --> 0:09:28.375 these things work out in terms of you know, a 0:09:28.495 --> 0:09:31.535 development lad this goes to council for planning approval, could 0:09:31.535 --> 0:09:34.175 be anywhere in the country. Sometimes it gets permission and 0:09:34.255 --> 0:09:36.695 sometimes it doesn't. And what do you do afterwards. So 0:09:36.775 --> 0:09:39.895 we've been talking with Hamish about that after eight o'clock 0:09:39.935 --> 0:09:43.175 this morning, but right now it is the perfect opportunity, 0:09:43.335 --> 0:09:45.935 given that you're all up and about and thinking about 0:09:45.975 --> 0:09:48.135 the jobs that you want to get done today. Either 0:09:48.895 --> 0:09:50.855 like I say, under the house, in the house, on 0:09:51.015 --> 0:09:54.375 the house, outside the house, inside the house. You tell 0:09:54.415 --> 0:09:56.135 me what you're up to, we'll talk about it. Oh, 0:09:56.215 --> 0:09:58.815 eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 0:09:59.135 --> 0:09:59.775 Call us now. 0:10:00.215 --> 0:10:03.935 Measure twice God was, but maybe call Pete first, feed 0:10:03.975 --> 0:10:06.255 your wolfgab the resident builder news. 0:10:06.095 --> 0:10:10.095 To lines are open if you care to call, and 0:10:10.215 --> 0:10:12.735 a trust that you will. Eight hundred and eighty ten 0:10:12.855 --> 0:10:15.775 eighty is that number to call. Quick text hey Pete, 0:10:15.895 --> 0:10:18.495 enjoy the show. Unfortunately I can't ring because I'm busy milking. 0:10:19.095 --> 0:10:22.455 I think this person is a regular contributor. I often 0:10:22.495 --> 0:10:27.055 get the tagline busy milking, which is fair enough, wondering 0:10:27.135 --> 0:10:29.455 about your thoughts on how to attack our house that 0:10:29.695 --> 0:10:32.895 isn't level. The main issue is that there is very 0:10:33.055 --> 0:10:35.615 little room between the floor and the ground. It has 0:10:35.735 --> 0:10:39.175 both totra piles and concrete ones, as it must have 0:10:39.255 --> 0:10:42.615 been added on to at a later date. Whatever the 0:10:42.735 --> 0:10:47.455 solution is, I don't imagine it'll be that cheap. You're 0:10:47.495 --> 0:10:50.055 probably right, and you know typically if you can get 0:10:50.095 --> 0:10:53.815 in underneath the house, then you know and safely do 0:10:54.015 --> 0:10:58.295 so too, because it's quite a process to repile a house. Obviously, 0:10:58.335 --> 0:11:01.335 you need to hold the house up, which generally involves 0:11:01.415 --> 0:11:05.295 lugging in lots of what look like short sleepers. So 0:11:05.535 --> 0:11:10.135 STIs building up piles underneath the house, jacking the house 0:11:10.215 --> 0:11:13.935 up level, supporting it so you can remove the existing piles, 0:11:14.375 --> 0:11:16.655 digging a new hole where there might just have been. 0:11:16.895 --> 0:11:19.215 In this case of it's totraal ones, they would have 0:11:19.375 --> 0:11:21.975 just been sort of not even driven into the ground. 0:11:21.975 --> 0:11:25.215 They would have dug a small hole, pop the totra 0:11:25.335 --> 0:11:27.655 post on top of it, and then trimmed it off 0:11:27.895 --> 0:11:30.215 level with where they wanted the bearers to go. And 0:11:30.495 --> 0:11:31.975 that would have been it, and they would have sat 0:11:32.015 --> 0:11:34.375 there for years. And I've pulled out some that when 0:11:34.375 --> 0:11:36.855 they come out, they kind of look like a rotten tooth, 0:11:37.015 --> 0:11:41.655 you know. They're just like a V shaped where they've 0:11:41.735 --> 0:11:43.895 rotted around the outside, and eventually they rot to the 0:11:43.935 --> 0:11:46.735 point that the house starts to subside. So if you've 0:11:46.775 --> 0:11:50.775 got those old toutraal matti piles like that, you'll need 0:11:50.815 --> 0:11:54.495 to pull those out, dig down, require depth probably four 0:11:54.655 --> 0:12:00.335 fifty to six hundred deep, hang a new tennelized pile there, 0:12:00.855 --> 0:12:03.895 and then pump in concrete in there. Now, all of 0:12:03.975 --> 0:12:05.935 that you can do if there's sort of five six 0:12:06.015 --> 0:12:09.775 hundred millimeters underneath the bearer. Anything less than that that 0:12:09.975 --> 0:12:14.775 gets quite challenging. I suppose. The other option is you 0:12:14.895 --> 0:12:18.335 look at getting the whole house lifted to redo the 0:12:18.415 --> 0:12:20.695 piles and then drop back down, or the house ends 0:12:20.775 --> 0:12:24.255 up being at a higher level. If there were lots 0:12:24.295 --> 0:12:29.215 of existing piles and the movement was quite within let's 0:12:29.215 --> 0:12:33.415 say one hundred millimeters, you can block and chock. I'm 0:12:33.415 --> 0:12:35.655 sure there's a slightly more technical term than that, but 0:12:35.815 --> 0:12:39.175 typically it just involves leveling the house and cutting little 0:12:39.255 --> 0:12:42.935 blocks on top of your existing piles, strapping those down 0:12:43.015 --> 0:12:45.055 in a way that means the house is still secured 0:12:45.135 --> 0:12:50.335 to the piles. And that's basically it. You can chock 0:12:50.415 --> 0:12:52.815 and block if you can get in there, and it 0:12:53.135 --> 0:12:55.575 can be no more than one hundred millimeters, and I 0:12:55.655 --> 0:12:58.095 think there might even be a regulation around how many 0:12:58.935 --> 0:13:01.095 sort of chock and blocks you can do. You know, 0:13:01.255 --> 0:13:03.535 not every single pile in the house can be cut 0:13:03.975 --> 0:13:06.095 or can have a block and certain in the top 0:13:06.135 --> 0:13:09.495 of it. So those are your options. But if it's 0:13:09.655 --> 0:13:13.655 really really low to the ground, in some cases I've 0:13:14.575 --> 0:13:17.055 seen it and had to do it myself over the years, 0:13:17.735 --> 0:13:20.055 cut the floor out and work from there and then 0:13:20.135 --> 0:13:23.255 sort of reinstate everything. But that's when the cost really 0:13:23.415 --> 0:13:29.815 starts to ramp up. So the yeah, a couple of issues. 0:13:29.855 --> 0:13:31.975 Therefore you good luck with that, and good luck with 0:13:32.015 --> 0:13:34.855 the milking. This morning. Another text that's come through. I 0:13:34.975 --> 0:13:42.015 made the comment about tile showers. I've it should be simple, 0:13:42.095 --> 0:13:45.695 shouldn't it. It should be relatively straightforward. If you are 0:13:45.775 --> 0:13:48.855 doing an alteration. Let's say you've got an old The 0:13:48.935 --> 0:13:53.615 classic example is, you know, typical sort of nineteen sixties 0:13:53.695 --> 0:13:58.175 nineteen seventies bathroom will have if it's a complete bathroom 0:13:58.215 --> 0:14:01.255 with a toilet of vanity and a bath and maybe 0:14:01.295 --> 0:14:03.855 a shower over it, you want to rip that out 0:14:04.055 --> 0:14:06.255 and you want to install. You're going to upgrade it. 0:14:06.415 --> 0:14:09.375 You want to tile the shower tile, the floor tile, 0:14:09.415 --> 0:14:11.095 the shower enclosure. 0:14:11.695 --> 0:14:12.575 And so on. 0:14:12.695 --> 0:14:16.015 You're not adding any the number of sanitary fittings, which 0:14:16.095 --> 0:14:19.415 is a trigger for a building consent. You're simply keeping 0:14:19.455 --> 0:14:21.855 the shape of the room. But you're going to change 0:14:21.975 --> 0:14:25.975 a bath over a shower to a tile shower. And 0:14:27.975 --> 0:14:31.615 does that automatically trigger the requirement for a building consent? 0:14:32.735 --> 0:14:34.535 And as soon as you talk about showers, you talk 0:14:34.575 --> 0:14:39.535 about waterproofing, and typically that requires a building consent. Except 0:14:39.655 --> 0:14:44.815 when you go through and read the Building Act E two, 0:14:45.095 --> 0:14:49.135 I think it is control of internal moisture. It starts 0:14:49.215 --> 0:14:51.775 to talk about tile showers and then it refers you 0:14:51.975 --> 0:14:57.055 to the Waterproofing Association of New Zealand Guide steps three 0:14:57.295 --> 0:14:59.055 through six or something like that, and it says if 0:14:59.095 --> 0:15:01.495 you comply with that, if you do it as per 0:15:02.415 --> 0:15:05.335 those standards, it's deemed to be compliant. And there it 0:15:05.455 --> 0:15:09.015 talks about having hob I know, this gets all incredibly 0:15:09.575 --> 0:15:13.695 technical and a bit boring to be fair, but though 0:15:13.815 --> 0:15:17.295 that's what I've sort of got to with my reading. Actually, 0:15:17.535 --> 0:15:19.335 when I was in it Chester yesterday we were talking 0:15:19.375 --> 0:15:22.095 about tile showers, and again, you know, if you're in 0:15:22.175 --> 0:15:24.895 a situation where you're selling plumbing fittings and someone says, 0:15:24.935 --> 0:15:26.375 do you think I need to consent with that? It 0:15:26.415 --> 0:15:30.015 puts the people in the store in quite a challenging position. 0:15:30.175 --> 0:15:33.695 What's the advice and their advice. The conversation I had 0:15:34.295 --> 0:15:37.375 yesterday was, look, go back and talk to your local 0:15:37.455 --> 0:15:38.415 council about it. 0:15:39.255 --> 0:15:40.375 It should be a little bit. 0:15:40.375 --> 0:15:43.215 More straightforward than that someone's text through. Anyway, Good morning, Pet, 0:15:43.615 --> 0:15:45.735 I hope you will thank you. I am as I 0:15:45.815 --> 0:15:48.935 believe it is. In the Mbie determination zero five to 0:15:49.135 --> 0:15:52.375 four concluded that you can replace an acrylic wall lining 0:15:52.455 --> 0:15:55.295 with a waterproof tile without a consent as long as 0:15:55.415 --> 0:16:00.655 the shower tray is not tiled. Yes, that may well 0:16:00.855 --> 0:16:06.215 be true because typically if you've got a crylic shower base, 0:16:06.495 --> 0:16:09.975 it'll have an upstand, and I guess the really critical 0:16:10.095 --> 0:16:13.575 part is often that is an area where it leaks. Right, 0:16:13.655 --> 0:16:16.415 if you've got a tiled floor and a tiled upstand, 0:16:16.895 --> 0:16:20.815 that ninety degree bend from flat to vertical is where 0:16:20.855 --> 0:16:22.535 you may get some leakage. So if you've got a 0:16:22.655 --> 0:16:26.375 tile in acrylic shower tray with an upstand and your 0:16:26.495 --> 0:16:29.815 tiles come down over the top of that, it's less risk. 0:16:31.095 --> 0:16:35.055 Plus the waste is more easily formed. You're not worried 0:16:35.055 --> 0:16:37.495 about how water actually gets into the waste and where 0:16:37.495 --> 0:16:39.855 the water that gets through the tiles and sits on 0:16:39.935 --> 0:16:44.055 the waterproofing is still actually directed into the waste. I'll 0:16:44.095 --> 0:16:46.055 go and have a look at that. I have spent 0:16:46.855 --> 0:16:49.895 when I've got time, a little bit of time reading determinations, 0:16:50.735 --> 0:16:54.295 So you can go to the INBI website and read 0:16:54.415 --> 0:16:58.695 through determinations about when there has been a dispute between 0:16:58.935 --> 0:17:04.775 let's say a builder or a homeowner and council about 0:17:05.015 --> 0:17:09.335 issues of the building code, you can apply to MB 0:17:09.535 --> 0:17:12.175 for a determination. It goes to the specialist team. They 0:17:12.295 --> 0:17:15.175 review it and decide whether the work is compliant with 0:17:15.255 --> 0:17:17.895 the building code or not. What was the one that 0:17:17.935 --> 0:17:20.455 I was reading the other day, Oh, I was searching 0:17:20.535 --> 0:17:22.775 for stuff on tile showers. I don't know if it 0:17:22.935 --> 0:17:26.895 was determination zero five to four, but I'll certainly go home. 0:17:26.775 --> 0:17:27.175 And look at that. 0:17:27.255 --> 0:17:29.575 During the course of the week, right your opportunity. I've 0:17:29.615 --> 0:17:32.695 said enough your time to talk. Eight hundred eighty ten 0:17:32.815 --> 0:17:34.735 eighty is the number to call. What's on your mind? 0:17:34.775 --> 0:17:36.975 What are you trying to get done? What are the 0:17:37.495 --> 0:17:41.295 challenges out there right now around your place? Jobs that 0:17:41.335 --> 0:17:43.055 you'd like to get done? How to get them done? 0:17:43.495 --> 0:17:46.615 Eight hundred eighty ten eighty Call me out you doing on. 0:17:46.695 --> 0:17:47.975 The house, sorting the garden? 0:17:48.095 --> 0:17:51.815 Ask Pete for ahead the resident builder with Peter Wolfcap 0:17:51.895 --> 0:17:53.775 call oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 0:17:53.895 --> 0:17:55.855 News Talks EDB you. 0:17:55.935 --> 0:17:58.295 And News talk Z'B lines are open for you right 0:17:58.375 --> 0:18:01.415 now on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You can text 0:18:01.575 --> 0:18:03.255 as well as a couple of people have already done 0:18:03.295 --> 0:18:06.655 this morning. Nine to nine two is bz BE And 0:18:06.775 --> 0:18:08.375 if you'd like to send me an email, you are 0:18:08.575 --> 0:18:11.775 more than welcome to give me a call on that one. 0:18:11.815 --> 0:18:14.535 I was just listening to that little promo during our 0:18:14.815 --> 0:18:18.055 ad break there talking about the building Minister Chris Penk 0:18:18.735 --> 0:18:23.495 and his references to building consents and the time that 0:18:23.655 --> 0:18:28.535 it takes to get those. So the press release that 0:18:28.695 --> 0:18:31.975 came out, when was it twenty first? Okay, so Friday. 0:18:32.855 --> 0:18:34.695 I don't know if it's great releasing these sorts of 0:18:34.735 --> 0:18:38.535 things on a Friday, but new annual data has exposed 0:18:38.575 --> 0:18:42.575 the staggering cost of delays previously hidden in the building 0:18:42.655 --> 0:18:47.055 consent system. According to Building and Construction Minister Chris penk 0:18:48.055 --> 0:18:52.775 he quotes I directed the Building Consent Authorities the BCAS, 0:18:53.175 --> 0:18:57.735 to begin providing quarterly data the last year to improve transparency, 0:18:58.255 --> 0:19:02.415 followed repeated complaints from tradespeople waiting far longer than the 0:19:02.495 --> 0:19:06.735 statutory twenty days for a building consent. For the first time, 0:19:06.815 --> 0:19:13.575 we have a consistent nationwide data proving statutory frameworks masking problems. 0:19:13.655 --> 0:19:18.495 Councils are stopping the clock on applications by requesting additional information, 0:19:19.055 --> 0:19:24.775 extending the processing time beyond the official twenty working day's target. 0:19:25.255 --> 0:19:28.495 The complete data for twenty twenty four paints a stark picture. 0:19:28.895 --> 0:19:32.855 Two thirds of applications required a request for information or 0:19:32.855 --> 0:19:37.535 an RFI, adding an average of nearly twelve extra days 0:19:37.615 --> 0:19:41.495 to processing time. That's twelve more days of projects. Stalling 0:19:41.735 --> 0:19:44.295 time is money for our Tradees and officials estimate a 0:19:44.375 --> 0:19:48.215 twelve day working or twelve working day delay because of 0:19:48.255 --> 0:19:51.775 an RFI could cost around four thousand dollars per dwelling 0:19:52.975 --> 0:19:58.335 last year, forty ninety four three hundred and sixty two 0:19:58.615 --> 0:20:05.175 applications triggered an RFI. So that's from Minister. I'm happy 0:20:05.215 --> 0:20:09.615 to talk about this as well, and it's the timing 0:20:10.175 --> 0:20:13.815 all the time is interesting. We've been waiting in terms 0:20:13.855 --> 0:20:15.775 of the sector. We've been waiting for this for a 0:20:15.775 --> 0:20:19.895 little while as to see what's going to happen. Of course, 0:20:19.975 --> 0:20:23.455 telling us what we already knew might not be that useful. 0:20:25.055 --> 0:20:30.215 Most people who have submitted a consent have kind of wondered, 0:20:30.855 --> 0:20:32.775 you know, why didn't I get my building consent in 0:20:32.855 --> 0:20:41.095 twenty days? What in the next few months. I'm just 0:20:41.215 --> 0:20:43.135 reading more from the press release. In the next few 0:20:43.175 --> 0:20:46.535 months we will finalize decisions on major initiatives to speed 0:20:46.695 --> 0:20:51.535 up the process. These include streamlining inspections, enabling trusted builders 0:20:51.615 --> 0:20:55.095 to sign off their own work, restructuring the bcas the 0:20:55.135 --> 0:20:57.935 building consent authorities to ensure that they're fit for purpose, 0:20:58.375 --> 0:21:02.655 and adopting a more balanced approach to liability for defective work. 0:21:03.775 --> 0:21:07.455 I have to say that within that particular power, that's 0:21:07.575 --> 0:21:13.295 an enormous amount of potential changes to the way that 0:21:13.455 --> 0:21:17.695 building regulations are administered and the way that we go 0:21:17.895 --> 0:21:24.415 about I suppose providing the compliance pathway for construction work 0:21:24.495 --> 0:21:26.655 in New Zealand. There's a lot in that. If you're 0:21:26.655 --> 0:21:29.815 a tradee, if you're a developer, if you're a homeowner 0:21:29.895 --> 0:21:33.655 waiting for a building consent to be issued for let's say, 0:21:33.695 --> 0:21:37.335 an alteration for a bathroom, this will impact on you. 0:21:38.775 --> 0:21:42.135 I will ensure that we get the Minister on the 0:21:42.255 --> 0:21:44.975 program the next couple of weeks to talk about this 0:21:45.135 --> 0:21:46.335 and sort of drill down through it. 0:21:46.495 --> 0:21:46.975 But it's. 0:21:48.615 --> 0:21:54.215 I guess what the counter to this is if plans 0:21:54.375 --> 0:21:58.015 require RFIs if councils sit down and they're looking through 0:21:58.055 --> 0:22:01.695 the plan and they have to they have to send 0:22:01.735 --> 0:22:05.735 it back to the architect or architectural designer whoever, the 0:22:06.615 --> 0:22:09.535 LBP that submitted it, the design LBP who submitted it, 0:22:10.615 --> 0:22:16.095 for further information. The implication out of this feels like 0:22:17.815 --> 0:22:21.095 it's council's fault that the plans aren't right, Whereas I 0:22:21.255 --> 0:22:23.575 just wonder whether there's a flip side to this, or 0:22:23.575 --> 0:22:27.495 there's an alternative alternate to this particular issue as well, 0:22:27.535 --> 0:22:30.135 where you go maybe the quality of the plans that 0:22:30.215 --> 0:22:34.415 are being submitted for building consent are not that good, 0:22:34.735 --> 0:22:41.855 or our council being too risk averse and not how 0:22:41.895 --> 0:22:44.815 do I phrase this properly? I guess it's it's around 0:22:45.335 --> 0:22:49.095 you know, do you? Yes, you have to put every 0:22:49.135 --> 0:22:52.535 single detail now into a set of plans in order 0:22:52.695 --> 0:23:00.215 for it to prove compliance with the code. Look, I 0:23:00.375 --> 0:23:02.495 just and I said this the other day at a 0:23:02.975 --> 0:23:05.695 sort of group of building professionals. In fact, there was 0:23:05.735 --> 0:23:08.535 some council people involved in that as well. You know, 0:23:08.615 --> 0:23:11.535 I built a house. It was a labor only contract 0:23:11.575 --> 0:23:14.775 that I had with my mate Dan. We were we 0:23:14.895 --> 0:23:18.655 got we put in a labor only price to I 0:23:18.775 --> 0:23:20.295 don't think we had to do the slab, but we 0:23:20.335 --> 0:23:23.975 did everything from the slab up right. So we nailed 0:23:24.015 --> 0:23:27.055 the frames together, pot the trusses on, did the cladding, 0:23:27.575 --> 0:23:30.295 put the windows in, did the jib, did the finishing line. 0:23:30.375 --> 0:23:33.695 So typical three bedroom house, maybe one hundred and twenty squares, 0:23:35.095 --> 0:23:37.375 And the plans for that I've still got. I've got 0:23:37.415 --> 0:23:39.135 a copy of the plans. They're in a file of 0:23:39.495 --> 0:23:43.295 old plans and I think there may be four or 0:23:43.335 --> 0:23:46.615 five pages right of plans sufficient to build a house 0:23:46.815 --> 0:23:52.255 in nineteen ninety one, ninety ninety two, and today I 0:23:52.335 --> 0:23:55.975 would suspect that if you submitted a set of plans 0:23:56.255 --> 0:23:58.695 for a building consent for a similar type of house, 0:23:58.855 --> 0:24:04.335 it would be I don't know, fifteen pages of plans 0:24:05.375 --> 0:24:11.135 of details right cross sections, elevations, details of window flashing, 0:24:11.255 --> 0:24:14.495 sell flashing, side flashings, junctions. 0:24:13.975 --> 0:24:14.855 Etc, etc. 0:24:15.375 --> 0:24:21.375