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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be clinical psychologist Google Sutherland is with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: He's from Umbrella Wellbeing of course golda Google cureder.

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Speaker 3: Jack. How are you, I'm yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well a little bit, you know, frustrated this morning.

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Speaker 3: Frustrated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's just it's a it's appalling. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: these things are just appalling. And I just cannot believe

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Speaker 2: that for all of the technology and AI development and

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Speaker 2: all of that stuff, that companies like Meta can't do

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Speaker 2: more to actually stop this thing from happening in the

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Speaker 2: first place. I just I don't find.

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Speaker 3: I completely completely agree. It's you know, if you if

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Speaker 3: you put the if we put the emphasis on those

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Speaker 3: companies to actually rub this stuff out, yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 3: prevent children from under the age of twelve being on.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think we're rather than that, all the

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Speaker 3: emphasis having to go on people having to do it themselves.

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Speaker 3: It's just the biggest belief that they can't do it,

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they just have no financial incentive right now,

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Speaker 2: which is the problem. Anyway. Hey, so last time we spoke,

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Speaker 2: I talking about being very busy and always doing a

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Speaker 2: thousand things at once, and that has inspired in new

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Speaker 2: a topic for this morning, which is the benefits of

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Speaker 2: doing one thing at a time. And look, Google, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't take them much to say that this might be

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Speaker 2: targeted to me.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it was just inspired by our conversation.

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Speaker 3: I was just reflecting on it because I used to

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Speaker 3: have a very similar pattern to you, and you know,

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Speaker 3: doing trying to do three things at once and pack

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Speaker 3: in as much as you can, and brushing my teeth

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Speaker 3: while you know, combing my hair and listening to a

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Speaker 3: podcast at the same time whilst keeping the other air

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Speaker 3: on the news. And actually I think it just adds

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Speaker 3: to the sense of frenetic busyness franticness that we have,

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Speaker 3: many of us have in our lives, and being able

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Speaker 3: to disentangle yourself from that I think can have some

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Speaker 3: real benefits just for living your life in or destressing

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Speaker 3: taking some of the business out of life.

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Speaker 2: For sure. I mean, it's not a virtue, and I

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Speaker 2: have to remind myself this sometimes, like being busy isn't

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Speaker 2: a virtue. It's actually like you know, there are some

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Speaker 2: really significant downsides to it. But it is amazing how

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Speaker 2: busy our lives have become, especially with that addictive little

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Speaker 2: electronic device in our pockets. So as an estimate from

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago that we have thirty four

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Speaker 2: gigabytes of information coming at us every day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's and that is from a number of years ago.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to find some more recent figures on

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Speaker 3: that and but I couldn't come across anything. But that

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Speaker 3: was I think a Stanford study that was done a

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Speaker 3: few years ago saying that that's how much they estimate.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure that is more now. And you know, Spark,

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Speaker 3: going back to your comments just previously around social media,

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Speaker 3: which not really social anymore, but just that influx of information,

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Speaker 3: and you know, it's always coming at us, always coming

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Speaker 3: at us. And I'm not you know, I'm not a

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Speaker 3: love eye. I I've got a phone, and I'm on

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Speaker 3: social media, and I've use iPads and computers. But it's

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Speaker 3: just can be overwhelming. And I think we get into

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Speaker 3: the pattern of always being on and always trying to juggle,

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Speaker 3: and always doing three things at once. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure that that's actually all that helpful, to be honest with.

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Speaker 2: You, No, I tend to agree, you know, it's you know,

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Speaker 2: there are obvious kind of negative effects on well being, right,

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Speaker 2: You've always got that kind of low level of stress,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I just find that like like busyness

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Speaker 2: kind of breeds busyness, and it kind of you know,

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Speaker 2: when you're addicted to your phone and someone's you know,

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Speaker 2: and you're having conversation with someone and then you just

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Speaker 2: find yourself reaching for it and kind of scrolling mindlessly

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Speaker 2: in a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Like, it's really bad.

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Speaker 2: It's bad for relationships.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, you've got three tips this morning, practical things

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Speaker 2: that we can do to try and focus on one

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Speaker 2: thing at a time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Look, firstly, and we've discussed mindfulness before

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Speaker 3: and many many people I'm sure listening will have heard

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Speaker 3: of mindfulness, but I don't encourage people to dig into

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Speaker 3: that a little bit more. That's it's it's a lot.

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Speaker 3: It's it's more than people think it is, and it's

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Speaker 3: it's it's one of the one of the benefits of it.

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Speaker 3: I always think about mindfulness actually is a bit like

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Speaker 3: an onion, is that you know, there's layers and layers,

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Speaker 3: and the more you do, the more you kind of

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Speaker 3: understand it and appreciate it. One of the benefits I

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Speaker 3: think is just learning to notice when your mind has

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Speaker 3: where your awareness is drifted onto something else and allow

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Speaker 3: yourself to bring it back to just doing one thing

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Speaker 3: at a time and acknowledging that we will get distracted

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Speaker 3: and that's okay, but just bringing back the control of

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Speaker 3: your awareness. So you're just going to do this one

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Speaker 3: thing at a time, whatever that one thing and so

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Speaker 3: I think that that's that's the first tip. Okay, second

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Speaker 3: second would be and a little bit inspired by you

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Speaker 3: our conversation from a couple of weeks ago. You know,

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Speaker 3: you around you brushing teeth and listen to a podcast,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. Get into the pract this or the habit

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Speaker 3: of just doing a task. A daily task might be

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Speaker 3: something like, you know, brushing your teeth or getting dressed,

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Speaker 3: or even cycling or walking or doing the dishes. Just

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Speaker 3: do that task. So practice doing that one thing and

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Speaker 3: just noticing all the different components of this. So if

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Speaker 3: you're brushing your teeth and it sounds a little bit

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Speaker 3: kind of people might be going with the X it's

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Speaker 3: going to do about but you know, noticing the taste

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Speaker 3: of toothpaste, noticing the feel of in your mouth, noticing,

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Speaker 3: noticing all those aspects, noticing when your mind drifts off

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Speaker 3: and it goes to something else, and just practice bringing

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Speaker 3: it back. So there's nothing magic about brushing your teeth

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Speaker 3: or doing the dishes or going for a walk necessarily,

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Speaker 3: but it is that practice, that habit of actually noticing

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Speaker 3: your mind drifting away, getting distracted by other things, and

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Speaker 3: bringing it back just to this one thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your third tip is an absolute doozy, a classic.

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Speaker 2: This is this is something a little bit less field.

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Speaker 3: Oh look it's and you know, I've got to be honest.

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Speaker 3: I'm not being paid for this endorsement in any way

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Speaker 3: safe or form. But my daughter and I my daughter

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Speaker 3: is home for the for the Easter weekend from Union

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Speaker 3: Auckland and we just heard I don't know, we came

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Speaker 3: across this this. It's Moose TV basically, and it's Swedish

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Speaker 3: slow TV. And I'm sure many people have heard of

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Speaker 3: slow TV, but this is a these It's about thirty

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Speaker 3: cameras on Swedish TV running twenty four to seven and

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Speaker 3: you can log on, you can go to the website

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Speaker 3: and watch it yourself. You don't have to be in

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Speaker 3: Sweden and it's essentially thirty cameras that are tracking migrating

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Speaker 3: moose across a river, and at last count I just

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Speaker 3: checked about half an hour ago, sixty four moose had

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Speaker 3: crossed over the past about fourteen or fifteen days. So

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Speaker 3: that gives you the sense of how But there's just

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Speaker 3: something I honestly can almost feel my blood pressure reduced

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Speaker 3: just by sitting there watching it, because there's these beautiful

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Speaker 3: scenes of Swedish fewards and rivers and nothing. I've got

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Speaker 3: to be honest, nothing much is happening for most of

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Speaker 3: that time. It's just it's just pictures of forest or

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Speaker 3: a river, and occasionally you see the most if you're

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Speaker 3: very lucky. But it's yeah, it's just really and it's

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Speaker 3: just like, oh, I can almost just feel I'm just

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Speaker 3: watching this one thing. I've not got ads coming in.

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Speaker 3: I'm not switching. It's just this thing. So I think

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Speaker 3: it's on for about four or five more days, so

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Speaker 3: people can go and check it out if they're interested

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Speaker 3: in that.

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Speaker 2: I love it. There's such a good idea. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to give it a crack. I swear, hey, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. We will take up very soon. Google Sutherland

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Speaker 2: from umbrella well being there.

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